Best Tournament Arcade Stick of 2024?
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I'm PhiDX, I play Tekken professionally for @ParagonFGC and ArcadeShock. - Hry
As PhiDX's giant stick I can confirm that carrying me around in tournaments was, in fact, problematic.
10/10 commentary I can see the passion and I get it.
"I love this stick man"
-phidx 2024
No Diddy
Tell me brand name he currently use stick plz
Litty 🔥 🔥 Vid , the outro super dope....good vibes 💯😤
Great video from such an insightful question! Such professionalism to do such a vid in a single take.
I’ve used an AFS 18 for 3 years, and finally bought a snack box micro just this month, and I can’t express enough just how fucking nice it is to have something small and portable to bring to tourneys. I love the look and feel of the AFS, but it is so big that it doesn’t fit in most backpacks and it weighs like a tank.
My stick is heavily customized on performance parts.
Sanwa JLF on Custom delrin capsule top, custom shorter steel shaft, custom alu actuator, semi circle gate.
All Custom measurements.
With pi pico board and ps passthrough on hori mini 4.
Detachable usb cable.
And all inside a cheap gamesir C2 casing. A sleeper build. All console buttons working.
Thanks for the suggestion, I just placed an order for one as I forgot I had tons of amazon points from my card to use. I'm super casual to fighting games (back in my younger/teen days I used to play fighting games at local arcade tournaments, and really got into the original tekken & tekken 2). I pick up all these fighting games and they just didn't feel "right" without a stick.
I have a Qanba Q8RAF and to fit the Knee Neo Lever in it, I had to removed the collar and replace it with a crown 307FJ collar which I also had to enlarge the collar hole enough so the lever would have enough clearance to ride the gate instead of the collar. Then I also had to remove 1 of the weight plates inside of the stick to make it fit including removing the access hole on the bottom of the case. Yeah it was pain.
Qanba makes some amazing sticks but I really wish they would design them with korean levers in mind or just a bit more clearance. I had no issues at all with the Knee Neo Premium on the Dragon and I even got a shuriken to work with the collar and still no clearance issues.
Collecting sticks is low-key a really cool hobby
I dont participate in tournaments, but have used bunch of sticks, by far my fav is the razer panthera og, got custom sega 2p ext layout pannel with brook board and its basically perfect
Was thinking about getting a new stick just for Tekken and the Titan is on my radar. Good to know about the Knee lever as I was looking into either that or an Otto V2 mod. Much to consider! Thanks, PhiDX!
Just buy makestick pro easy to mod & fits every korean lever
Hori alpha is really good and easily moddable
6:33 Holy I just noticed those are all arcade sticks in the back, yeesh. But hey let a man be passionate
Haha, I can kinda relate, I do something similar with the various keyboard I have. Admittedly arcade sticks look nicer in a set up like that lol
As someone who’s been using the Obs2 I can say this. Putting my Fujin v3 on it was no issue at all, but yes I had to take the bottom cap off. The only lever that doesn’t require you to take off the bottom cap is the Samducksa Nhp (Crown309mj) from IstMall or focusattack. It’s a very big, heavy and sturdy stick and I love how premium it feels. The cable management absolutely sucks. Customizing is so fun to do on it though. For anyone that usually just stays home, it’s a really good stick. But for the price being +$300, it doesn’t feel worth it for everything mostly feeling like plastic. Maybe I’m being biased from using a victrix, but that’s just my personal opinion. If you can find it for $200-$250, I’d say is worth it.
Actually for the fujin, you need the bandit mod, but the bottom cap doesn’t have to come off if you don’t push down on your lever, but it’s safer to remove the cap I’d say.
I’m still out here with a stock MadCatz SF X Tekken stick. Still holds up man
It’d be more complicated to print, but have you thought of printing a replacement bottom panel that dips 2mm so you can fit the weight plate inside it? Could also possibly try just gluing some small weights inside the original panel, just don’t stick them near the lever
feel like phi might like a custom brooks stick with a small form factor that still is able to replicate the extended viewlix
The Noctis sword will be missed.
phidx! love u bro great content
Kinda unrelated, but for those who have switched from JLever to a KLever - does anyone else find that the Korean lever shorter than JLFs somehow? Using the Knee Lever Neo (pill shaped) in a Hori Rap 4 Kai, I feel like my index and thumb are above the battop whereas with the JLF it didn't feel like those fingers cleared the top of the stick so easily. Could be a change in grip I guess, the battop has required quite a bit of adjustment so far, curious how others have adapted.
(also, why the heck do they include a shaft cover *and* dust cover if the shaft goes so deep into the stick that you can't use the dust cover without removing the shaft cover? Is that just the housing I'm using?)
Ive been looking into getting a new stick for a while, but ive been trying to look for one thats artwork friendly. Ive been using the ps4 venom stick for god knows how many years now, made my own artwork, and its so easy to apply, cause its essentially just paper beneath a layer of glass. Alot of the sticks being reccomended just dont seem to have that ease of customisability. Not a dealbreaker per say... but i REALLY want to make my own artwork
Is there anything specific you did to mount the lever further down? the end of the shaft is just barely scraping the port hole when i screw everything in.
I love the qanba drone because of the portability and cable compartment... Algorithm check
Eyy! Stick buddies! I went from Obsidian to Titan too
Excellent video, thanks to your detailed description I just bought my Qanba Titan, could you recommend a Joistick model for Street Fighter 6.
Greetings.
Fantastic! could you share the STL files of the spacers? I'm looking to mimic your setup.
Knee lever is always sick
I love watching your content, I wish I could get coaching like this :(
Do the lever types (Korean vs ball) have different advantages or is it merely preference?
I have a razer panthera. It’s 8 way gate and I feel like it’s super sensitive and idk how to fix it. Also I don’t like the sphere knob where can I get the knob that you have?
now that i fairly regularly catch the streams, its like the magic is gone. You just know he had to read that message in the intro like 3 times to get it right lmao
Do you still have your Hitbox Crossup? Do you ever use it?
Take notes Qanba, take notes!
have you considered removing the weight plate and instead adding those flat balancing wheel weights inside the case to accommodate the kneeo lever?
Can you make a video on mods for your arcade stick/hitbox? What did do you look for in a good lever and buttons? That would be soooooo helpful thanks!!!!
Can you make a video about your all-time favorites ?
Or something like a comparison about the actual s-tier sticks?
Hi loves ur videos
I have a question can the Sanjuks 7 fits in the titan ?
Not a stick guy, just got a lever less. But love the video. Like seeing the customization options!
Man I was just in this for the chat beyond 6:00
How do I get the qanba obsidian 2 Vewlix ext panel? only able to find the panel for the first gen obsidian....
Wow what coincidnt, My fav creator use almost exact stick set up as me. I cuurently use ASIndo custom golden lever on Titan as well but I do not have access to 3d print anything so I just remove the weight and Use rubber washer under the stick so it can mount. so many work around but it worth it. The spread layout between lever and buttons are worth everything to go for.
Where can I get one of those storage racks for multiple sticks?
appreciate mentioning the button layout, a smaller one is most important for me as a home player primarily, weight and cable are meh.
I built my own wooden box, and used parts I got off amazon. Works great! but the height feels awful, and the spacing is way too wide for my hands, I've got like a 3-4in gap which worked great for dbfz where there's more buffering and more repeated inputs, but getting into tekken has made me realize I'm gonna get gated quick, especially my sore ass arms LMFAO
Good, one soldier still using lever, not going to the leverless army. We must remain strong.
What I want to know is where did you get that sweet display shelf setup?!
We got it secondhand I wish I knew what it was. It was for displaying magazines and books
I wish there were more spaced out leverless options.
Dear Phi, I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em
There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin'
So the knee neo fits in the titan perfectly fine w/o the weight plate? Would say the titan is too light w/o it?
Personal preference. I think it needs the plate though
Instead of gluing a mouse pad, use non slip rubber sheet. They're cheap and work great.
Did you ever think about modding in a usb-c port into your obsidians ? I did that with my panthera, because the standard screw port sucks.
The original panthera?
@@Jr3500cyup.
can a leverless (hitbox) be used in tournaments??
Someone said Kneeo and Titan are not compatible so I want to make sure. Is it compatible if I just remove the hatch and metal plate? Is 3D printing not neccessary but optional?
Correct. Removing weight plate is enough
Is Arcade Shock planning to make a Titan panel for Korean high collar levers?
Takeaway: Phi carried a giant stick
😳
Are arcade stick's the only controllers allowed at offline Tekken events? I started with Tekken 7 in late 201 and want to start going to offline events with T8, but I can't imagine using anything else other than the Xbox controller D-Pad I've grown accustomed to.
An Xbox controller is totally legal for tournaments.
A lot of tournaments are run on ps5. So you can bring all sorts of controllers, including Xbox dpads but you, yourself have to make them work on ps5; use a xbox to ps5 converter, mod them or whatever.
You can use literally anything as long as it works and doesn't have illegal macros.
Wonder when we will get a custom phidx arcade stick
newer to stick stuff, ended up hating leverless as i think i have tendinitis in my fingers lol.
That being said, is there a ps5 stick with a good lever for tekken? I heard most of them are loose and have an octogate, i want a stiff one thats good for tekken
You can buy a cheap hori rap4 and add a custom pcb + a Korean lever in it. If you got the money and absolutely need official ps5 support there’s the hori alpha
@@user-sd6lb3tm9k awesome thanks dude
Same thing happened to me. Leverless injured my fingers's joints between the phalanges and a month later I started using a sanwa stick. Now my fingers don't hurts except my left wrist gets a bit fucked but for now I can play about 1 hour a day.
Oh yeah fix, try using the Golden Lever Arcade stick. I heard they used by a lot of Tekken players
Can I get a korean lever with a ball top, octagonal gate and a quick release?
🎉🎉🎉
What button are you using there? Qanba gravity ks?
Yep!
I get it.
Speaking of Korean levers, how about a video on how you chose to use the lever you are currently using?
how do i enable the touchpad on PC? it was mentioned at 7:16
edit: got the touchpad to work by enabling steam big picture mode and setting the titan to ps5 mode, instead of PC mode.
there was no audio, since the computer began to use the titan as an audio device. i disabled the audio device coming from there.
In Tekken: options --> button mapping
@@PhiDX thanks! i initially had problems getting the game to recognize that the controller has a touchpad.
Hey Phidx, how about the Hori Alpha? Is Hori sticks not as good as Qanba sticks?
In case you havent decided yet... Dont get the Alpha. You have to do way more to get Levers to fit in it than Phi does here for the Titan. I've literally dremel sanded divets into the inside of the baseplate to get my Knee Lever to fit.
Dont get the Alpha.
Wow what a natural and unscripted intro to the video. I can't believe that question came up completely randomly at that time in chat :) Great video Phi love ya
PhiDX turned his handcam into a crotch cam for a minute there. Showing off his other stick LOL
MayFlash F700 is a good stick
I'm convinced a significant part of the popularity of leverless is just the weight
And portability
@@PhiDX Yeah, I guess weight is a subset of portability
Although i dont like it, starting the video with a king losing screen is definitely a choice
How do you map training mode reset to Stick Touchpad ... mentioned on the video but I can't figure it out ? 🤔
Options --> Button Mapping (not Controller Setup)
Got it Thx@@PhiDX
it´s baffeling to me, how those arcade stick companies HAVE TO BE AWARE people like to mod and put different sticks in, yet they manage to just build the casing a few millimeters of to be modable .. Makes me think they have to do it on purpose no?
Yeah I think that they expect people to change parts so why bother?
Give them 'cheap to make' stuff but jack the prices up.
The more I think about it the worst it gets.
How come they don't offer easy to use cable management in the first place?
Why those start and select buttons have to be in the weirdest of places?
I mean it's like they're not even trying.
it fits almost every other stick on the market. the knee lever neo is just huge relative to most other japanese or korean sticks
INDONESIA MENTIONED! anyway, PhiDX engraving on new stick when?
I swear that hitbox was always cheating
No Victrix review, I guess the weight and size were the cons. I love mine, Knee lever mounted on it as well. It feels better than my hitbox, no matter what people say. ❤
Knee neo?
I use a hori rap 4 kai and it feels great. It's a bit older though
My favorite as well I have 2 and just found another one sealed in box so I had to buy it. Wish they still made a stick like that, Hori Alpha is OK but doesn't compare on my opinion
@@theperfectpour I was lucky enough to find a mint one at the local resale store. It's the white variant too 👌🏿
Was mounting the weight plate on the outside of the Titan a necessity because of the added thickness of your lever, or would that apply to all Korean levers? I'm using the pill-shaped knee lever without the gate and the Titan looks perfect otherwise.
I'm not sure which levers don't fit unfortunately. I only know the NEO is the biggest out there atm
My hori rap4 Kai with mods is the best arcade stick of 2024 and each year before. Kneel!
i miss hori fighting edge
Me still watching this while using a ps5 controller 😎
Can, uhhh... Can we get them Titan 3D print files?
Anybody know when TWT starts ?😊
I still think the best sticks are either Hori Fighting Edge, or Qanba Obsidian (OG). They're my personal faves anyway. Hori Alpha is probably the best modern stick for $200.
Most modern sticks (such as the Obsidian 2, ironically) are way overpriced. $300? Even the Titan is overpriced. It's far more reasonable at $225 usd, but the extra 25 bucks doesn't get you anything the Alpha cant give you at $200.
what about etokki?
Mannnnn I just wanna know what the best option would be for at home use lol, I’m no champion ok what’s the best stick for the red/orange rank scrub that never leaves the downstairs gaming setup 😂😂🤣
korean levers have been sold out for months. Sanwa is such a pain in tekken.
Why not just cutout the weight plate where the joystick hits?.
Normal people, buy expensive ass sticks and uses them as it is.
Pros, buy expensive ass sticks, dissemble them, put it all the best parts in the best layout there is for them.
Meanwhile me, still using a self build stick many years ago using the cheapest stick i can find as a base layout and repaint,drill, install/replace parts buying them from online stores. 😂😂
Using a arcade stick is literally impossible
Have you seen the latest video from FrameWhisperer about the recent copyright strikes from Bamco? Will you address this also? We really need content creators to acknowledge the issues.
wtf is PhiDX gonna do about bamco threatening legal action to people who violate the terms of use lmfao
@@DandyRaytona which terms of use do you even have in mind? IAMOP was hit with a copyright strike for showcasing other people's mods on his CZcams channel.
Bro bragging about his stick being too big he needed a smaller one 🤣
I guess size matters after all.
F that and just get a hitbox style for fighting games.
🥲
I bought an arcade stick but didnt research well enough. Dont buy an 8bitdo stick and try to mod it. You wont be able to unless you learn to soder.
this channel called JoyStickNY has some 8bitdo mod tutorials that don’t require any sodering
Just the fact that you NEED to mod an already expensive device you'll only use for 1 type of game is enough to forget about buying it.
I got 2, I don't like them. I grew up in arcades and I've never felt nowhere near close to what the real cabinet felt like.
One is too light and stick is trash, the other one is too big for my hand and the stick is also trash (almost no resistance, pretty imprecise, both of them, one is a hayabusa something like that, the big one, the other one was something tournament edition).
They're just scam at this point for 100€+ sticks I got 10 to 20 years ago as there's no technology worth the price point in them.
I ended up throwing them in the garbage.
The fact that all streamers are sponsored and use modified ones proves my point still to this day. They won't publicly criticize them for fear of losing their partnership but if they were good enough, they would use them as is.
Also I'm very picky with everything I buy as I mostly put the money to get the best there is on the market at that moment.
It's not like I buy without recommendation or without knowing what I'm buying beforehand.
But you can't know for sure if it'll suit you in the long run. At first, you're like "I'll get use to it", "I need practice" but you never get used to it. So you need to change parts.
For some it's levers, buttons, weight, size, even looks... I don't have that problem with gamepads. I find one that feels good in my hands and it just works and it's cheaper.
Also it works both sides (player 1 and 2) as opposed to sticks where there's a big difference depending if you're on the left or right side of the screen.
Enough rambling I think you get the point.
Do what works for you, I find I enjoy tinkering with them and experimenting, can be a hobby in itself.
What is that shelf in the back. 🥹
Obsidian 2 is awful. I got a seimetsu stick and it didnt fit in it and the cable compartment is worse than the first one. I tried going back to the obsidian but i bought gamer finger buttons and those didnt fit. I ended up putting everything in my dragon and it fits fine but is so heavy. I'm about to just buy a Victrix