Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen 2 .22 cal. VS Whitetail Deer! Can a break-barrel 22 pellet rifle kill a deer?
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The best pellet rifle on the market!?!... The Gamo Swarm 10X Magnum is advertised as being one of the most silent air rifles on the market while shooting a .22 caliber pellet at 1300 fps from the muzzle. On this episode of Hunt Shoot Live, I really put the Gamo Swarm Magnum to the test... can it take down a whitetail deer?
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Thank you for your hard work. I like to do a lot of research before and after a purchase and just love getting information like this that I haven’t seen anyone else do before.
Very well done and well put together! Much appreciated and I'd agree to say that it's unethical to use the Swarm Magnum combo to take down a deer but under extreme survival circumstances we at least should get to know our rifles very well to place the perfect shot necessary to make such an ethical kill.
a Gamo Magnum with .22 H&N Hornet brass tip pellets should work on Alligator head shots if it is zeroed and accurate
Appreciate you taking the time and effort to do this test. Also I believe the myth buster guys have another saying, “ Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”. 🔥
@Let There Be Fish Truth!!!
Excellent video! thank you very much. THAT pellet gun is a beast and since ammo is so damn expensive it is actually a very fun alternative
MAN YOU ARE AMAZING TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT TO DO THAT FOR ALL OF US MAN I GIVE YOU THUMBS UP ON ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS
@David S Thank you! I appreciate you. It did take some time but it was fun. And I just had to know if it would do it!
I've done a bunch of penetration test with the same gun. The Rocket has good penetration, but the H+N Hornet is the ultimate 22 penetrator. At 10 yards it will go through 8 gauge steel or pass completely through a coconut with ease.
@Frank Maze I keep hearing a lot of very good reports on the hornets. Probably gonna have to get some.
@@HuntShootLive the Rocket would put a helluva dent in the 8 gauge, but not go through. In other tests the Hornet went through 2 coconuts at 10yrds but I was never able to replicate it. The best I got was passing through the first and getting stopped in the middle of the second coconut. But that tells me it would probably pass right on through a deer's skull at 20+yds. 🤠
Anything is good at 10 yards. :) But I am with you with the Hornet in this gun. If you are good with springers and have a good scope, this sucker with that pellet is a 70-80 yard small game head shot gun. It flies as well as any great domed pellet, (to my amazement foe a tipped pellet), and the quality is fantastic. The Hornet skirts are thicker than the rockets and it is often I get a 200 pc tin with no dented skirts. The thin skirts are the downfall of the otherwise very good rocket pellet. This gun has enough pressure to blow up the Hornet skirt for a good fit with the riflings/barrel bore. The Hornet flies so well, I bought over 2000 of them,---then my gun broke.
After you clean your barrel, make sure there is no oily grime under the magazine system and the breech face,---or the gun will get damaged. The plastic covers up the breech face, and it was out of sight, out of mind for me.
The first shot I did after cleaning it dieseled and sounded like a .22LR. I found the pellet in the snow, (I think a JSB dome), and the skirt is blown up like a perfect ball room dress to .300" in diameter, (2mm larger than the barrel, from the dieseled pressure). I think that is the ID of the plastic muzzle.
Yessir I shoot them in .177 and .22 both go straight thru a 400 page paper back. Love the hornets just wish they could make em a lil cheaper I cry every time I run out and have to buy more
True that fam, the Hornet with the gamo magnum in 22. is a deadly rifle.
You completely answered all of my questions and then some. One of the best videos made. I thank you, sir, for your time, patience and expertise! Well done!
@LeadingEdge777 Thank you very much! I am glad you found it helpful. Thank you for watching and for the comment!
Amazing! Very well put together and incredibly informing. Thank you man! I appreciate watching real educational videos about guns.
@Hrroman Slaparsso’ Thank you for watching and for the comment! I am glad you found it helpful.
The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago czcams.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.
@MrEmarioyoshibro Definitely not a toy!
Thanks for your efforts!!!!! alot of work went into this!
Great video. Very interesting. I personally own Gamo Swarm Magnum 22 gen1, Gamo Magnum Jungle 22 (single-shot rifle), Gamo G-Magnum 177 (single-shot rifle) and Gamo Swarm Maxxim 177 gen1. I like Gamo because for a relatively small amount of money you get very powerful rifles. At a short distance, I get the deepest penetration with Gamo Magnum in 177 caliber with H&N Hornet pellets that achieve high subsonic velocity. With 22 caliber Gamo rifles also H&N Hornet pellets give excellent penetration. God bless!
@KatolikKreacija I have seen a lot of comments about the hornets. I’ve not tested them but they look like they would penetrate very well.
@@HuntShootLive in 22 nothing even comes close to the Hornet when it comes to penetration, even fairly thick (8 gauge) steel at 10yds.
Thanks for all the tremendous work that you put out in the making of these videos 😊
@dana44169 I appreciate you watching.
Very satisfying great video sir!!! As a Gamo swarm magnum gen 2 owner!!! I think i am going to watch this great video again and again for maybe a thousand times!!!hehehe. More power and God bless sir!!! and of course more videos about Gamo Magnum tooo...
@Jim Olarte Thank you! And God bless you and yours!
thanks for all that hard work
Very good video, I’ve been wondering about this ever since I purchase my gamo magnum…
great video...like you said nobody should be shooting a deer with an airgun unless they own a 50 caliber one.. however it gave me an idea on how hard some other animal skulls are....on where to place the shots to achieve a humane killing.
Thanks for all the work you've put in to this. Social Media rules dictate that no matter how well you cover your bases, someone will be offended and/or threaten violence to you and your family. Just like with 22LR, these types of questions will no doubt continue to be asked as long as airgun hunting continues to exist. It's important that we continue to investigate them. 👍
Best hypothetical survival scenario, “orange parachute cord snare traps on frequent deer trails” save the gamo ammo for for rabbit, squirrels, etc
Better with a cross bow. Whether or not the air gun/rifle projectile combination penetrates for a kill, depends on the combined engineering of both gun and/or projectile/bullet. That is if they are meant to do so. Air guns are meant to be restrictive in killing power, that is by the powers that be. I have found over my 76 years, that hardened led balls work the best in the combination of penetration and energy transfer.
In the video titled '177cal vs Deer Headshot Point Blank & 20yd' the guy shows that a deer can be killed from a distance of 20 yards, even with a slightly weaker type of Gamo rifle in caliber 177 (I mean, slightly weaker than Gamo Whisper, a lot weaker than Gamo Magnum). There are more videos on youtube where they kill wild boars and domestic pigs with 177 caliber rifles weaker than Gamo Magnum (guys in Brazil shoot domestic pigs in the head with air rifles before slaughtering pigs), kill coyotes or pierce the heads of deer and wild boar. And they do it all with break barrel air rifles in 177 caliber. There is even a video on youtube where a guy in Brazil kills an ox with a shot to the head with a .23 caliber brazilian 'CBC nitro six' break barrel air rifle before slaughtering an ox and there is video where the guy kills a cow with CBC nitro x 1000 air rifle in 22 caliber (CBC nitro six and CBC nitro 1000 rifles are slightly weaker than the Gamo Magnum). I have some of those videos saved. Today’s Gamo air rifles really aren’t toys.
I really like your videos would love a update to the gamo wisper 22 just got it the other day and there's only a few reviews of it thanks!
@Dallas Boyd Thank you! I will be working on an update with the whisper probably with the Gamo rockets.
When I was young a friend's family owned a local slaughterhouse, they stunned cows, and hogs with 22 short. After the slid to the floor their throats were cut, and they bled out. The animals never showed any sign of pain, much more humane kill than a center mass shot typical of hunting. The problem with hunting with a 22 short, or 22 pellet gun is getting that perfect shot between the eyes. Their are hunters who do use air rifles for wild pigs using between the eyes head shots, they are very successful. Even small pigs have a very hard scull, probably tougher than a deer.
I was like 15 and got sent to Pennsylvania to stay out of trouble and I worked at a dairy farm and every once in a great while a cow would step in a woodchuck hole and break its leg. The farmer was so busy that he didnt have time to deal with her so he said I could have her . so I got my family together and my uncle used a .22 and shot her between the eyes and it knocked her out cold. I jumped on her and cut her throat. The idea is that you knock the cow out instead of killing so when you cut the throat the heart will pump most of the blood out. Because there is so much blood in a cow. IV had people call me a lier and say that .22 go through the skull everytime but iv shot 3 cows with cheap federal brick ammo and it didnt go in the skull. I never tried .22 shorts but I'm sure it knocks em out cold just the same. But they damn sure dont suffer. I think that you would drop a smaller deer with this guys air rifle if you hit it in the head from a shorter distance. IV seen .22 shorts and .22 CB caps drop a deer from 40 yards with head shots.
Yeah the .22 doesn’t actually kill them. It’s the knife to bleed em that actually kills them. It only knocks em out. Ive seen slaughterhouses where the guy was shooting a horse and on many occasions it would take multiple shots to the head before it would get knocked out or killed at that point.
Thanks for doing all the work on this man! 🍻
@Akira Thank you! Just did another with a black bear…
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You are so f***** awesome! Thanks for this. Its great for young kids and all people to see these are very lethal and meant to be treated as real guns.
Very accurate and informative video.
You totally deserve a subscribe for this video! Good work brother. Thanks for the info. I just bought a .22 Swarm Magnum to plink around in my backyard(I have woods behind my house).
@andrewlightbody4221 Thank you! Check out my playlists. Should have a few more you will enjoy I hope.
I been watching, respect your motives, answer is complete for survival for me
. Thank you, and good health.
@Wayne Westfall Thank you!
As usual great video and I expected those results it's a great break barrel and your expertise with guns played a major part in this 👍 the h&n hornets penetrate better than the gamo rockets and I too don't endorse shooting a dear with an air rifle but it appears to be able to take medium size game if the need arises can't see it ever being legal though
@Jibril Saifulah Thank you for watching and for the comment!
The swarm magnum gen 3I is coming out sometime soon It looks more ergonomic than the gen 2 an they removed that steel finish that good because that just rusts.
@Hardy B I’ll have to look up the Gen 3. Have not read about it yet.
Got to love those Gamo's man, I have the Magnum and Maxxium haven't taken a deer, yet 😁.
I put a mildot scope on mine. Hitting dimes at 35yards. 3 inch targets at 50 yards and smacking 6 inch metal pot lids at 100 yards !!
I have this gun. It is a 100 yard gun, (but not much energy left that far out). When you get the technique down for shooting a springer, (basically, don't touch the gun at all,--lighten the trigger cause a gun just floating on your hands is easy to move.), you will get those groups at 80 yards, (if the scope and all is working properly).
The gun shoots a lot of good pellets well, but I found most of the H&N pellets to have the best quality, (no dented skirts like those rockets, that's a 20fpe difference), and those Hornet pellets with the metal tip fly as well as any great domed pellet I have used. Accurate enough for head shots to 70 yards on small game,---if your not touching the damn gun! :) PS, when I took my cheek and shoulder pressure off the stock before pulling the trigger,---groups got smaller.
Can't get parts easily from Gamo though, so I will buy an extra gun.
Sharing, we will all need things like this, to hunt with very soon!!!
The two Palace I wouldn't prefer to use would be the h&m hornets and the GTO lead free only because they both are solid hard and won't deform and we'll go through anything
thank you. Informative. Decent, hands on tests. Good info.
@1thatdreams Thank you!
Good to see a future hunter there with you!
🔥 damn brother... You're the modern day deer slayer. Great job keeping meat in the freezer.🔥
how many effective joules does the gamo 10 chase have? not the declared ones, but the actual ones, a friend has the pest controll red band, a disappointment 45 declared, 30 verified
Moral of the story, probably not a good idea to go deer hunting with a 22 break barrel.
Super awesome Review....and what it does to the air gun community is very valuable. Great video Subscribed!!!! God Bless...Amen
@Crimson_626 Thank you!
FYI -- I also have the Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen 2 .22 cal. (27 FPE). It's a good break barrel, but the scope is not. I also have the Umarex Gauntlet 2 .25 cal. (56 FPE) which can place 5 rounds within a nickel diameter at 60 yards with a 6-24X Hawke scope (which costs 1.5X more than the Gauntlet 2). Penetration using JSB King Heavy 33.95 gr pellets at 60 yds will pass through two 3/4-inch pine boards. The Gamo Swarm will just +/- pass a pellet through one 3/4-inch board at point blank range. Gamo Swarm = No Deer, No pigs. You would need head shots with at least 50 FPE for small pigs, and 100 FPE with a .30 cal. pellet or .22 cal. LR for a medium sized deer in order to be humane.
You should watch some of keith warrens and tim wells videos hunting hogs with airguns.
Y’all keep putting the magnum against a PCP rifle price doesn’t compare a compressor (a good one not that Chinese junk 6-700 plus for a portable a airtank (one that you will get more than 1.5 charges from 600+) a hand pump 300 plus and that separates the boys from the men this is a working man price vs a real investment also absolutely will knock down smaller hogs coyotes medium game with no problem and who is trying to hit anything further than 50 yards without the intent to be inhumane anyway
@@Whatthedread Yong heng Chinese compressor, $200-$400 wherever you may get one. Or you get yourself a hand pump for $40. And a diana stormrider for $210 BRAND NEW. Getting into pcp isn't necessarily an investment. But it sure as hell can be if you want it to be. And you can definitely take humane shots past 50yds.
Great Honest Review!! U Never know until you know.. Keep it up.. New Subscriber here.
@keepitreel Thank you! Glad to have you on the Hunt Shoot Live team!
Excellent testing! Definitely took into consideration different parameters and variables to be valuable within a scientific scope as well as a practical survival scenario. Myth buster would have little to add. Appreciate the effort and the work you put into this.
@TJ Greene Thank you! It took some time but was definitely fun.
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@@HuntShootLive what about lung and internal organ damage? if pellet not stuck in rib it will go as knife through butter, otherwise deer will painfully die of infection
@@user70331 the pellet is so small I wouldn’t count on an organ shot resulting in quick expiration. Groundhogs and squirrels can get away if not shot in the head with a pellet rifle so it’s safe to assume a deer would go very far before dying.
Agree
Enjoyed your video bro 👍 thank you
Well there you go, good test. I would recommend that if you must take a between the eyes shot with a weak round. Try to be elevated or wait until the head is vertical eating. Don't ask me how I know but, as you see here deflection is highly likely.
@Shootin’ with Uncle Dan Thank you sir! I agree. The between the eye shot was 100% effective in this test at that angle. As you said, still tremendous room for error though. I may be able to do it but I believe I’ll pass. My 7mm works just fine! What’s the old saying… speak softly but carry a big stick!
Yep@@HuntShootLive
@@HuntShootLive That is another good thing about the Hornet pellet, with the sharp metal point, it will stick on some angles that domed pellets would deflect off of. I think that Hornet is the best skull shot pellet for that gun period, and it really is accurate enough, like 1" groups at 65 yards. I think that gun is probably in the top 3 for a flat pellet trajectory for a break barrel gun, (and better than some PCP's). I like to sight mine in at 40 yards, use one mill dot at 65 yards, and another 90 yards, with the 16gr Hornet, (865fps). A 18gr JSB, (835fps), took 3 mill dots at 90 yards, sighted in at 40. So I use one mill dot about every 24-25 yards with the Hornets. My old Hatsan .30 cal. (585fps) Break barrel was the other end of the spectrum, at 8 yards per mill dot, and there were 9 of them on that scope. You get lost in the mill dots with anything over 5 I found. :)
Yes you are right. At my begining deer hunting with airrifle, i never get one frontal shot. After gun upgrade( heavier pellets more speed up to 30 Joule in 0.22 calibre Pcp, better accuracy ( under inch group at 35 yard distance) results improved. Not recomended shoot beyond 40 yards distance, if posible 25-30 aim on eye when deer is in angle and if its side shot, two inches behind eye to ear, drop instantly.
Neck shot not recomended and lungs or heart its sure, you never find that deer. Hogs are in my area rare, not had oportunity test them. Fox are little bit tough even headshot, if they come close on mouse sqeeking.
Excellent video, thanks.
@b4uspeek Thank you! Check out my new one testing on a bear.
You should definitely do this test again! Lol except next time use a PCP they're much more accurate and try a few different caliber's,. 177 maybe . 25 & .30, with different types of ammo. I'm sure a lot of your viewers would agree, that they'd like to see another test. For science
@Andrew Avellino I wish I had access to some pcp rifles. I do have access to a .177 swarm magnum. May try to do that one this deer season. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Awesome video man
@JesusGabriel XD Thank you for watching and for the comment!
I have a barra arms black ops sniper s in 22 caliber and it punches thru a 200 pg phone book at 100 yards there wild
Well done. The results show why deer hunting with a small caliber air rifle should probably not be legalized. However, deer hunting with a big bore air rifle is an entirely different story.
No question it can kill a deer in a pinch but, a 22LR would be
much better.
Definitely. And you could still reasonably carry a crazy amount of 22 rounds without much inconvenience.
@@HuntShootLive you know DeWayne 2022 is going to be the year of 22LR for me at least. I have been running thousands of rounds through my AR's using the CMMG 22 Conversion Kit. I have had it for year's but, for some reason...was not using it. It is reliable, easy to clean and needs little to no cleaning. The accuracy in every AR I have tested has not only been spot on but, if the gun is on with 5.56 at 100 yds. She is on with 22 at 50 yds. Now she is Minute Of Squirrel but, maybe not Minute Of Squirrel Head. Anyhow, if you don't have one....get one. 169 bucks for that with 3 25rd mags. Bargain. The place to get it is Botach and extra mags through them 19 bucks. I order 7 more mags so I can load up 250 rounds. That will put in a decent range session and never have to load. Talk about the ultimate survival tool. A short AR in 5.56 with a silencer and the CMMG. I am gathering up parts to build a 5" 5.56. 1 in 5 twist. I am not sure how 22lr will respond to that twist rate but, I do know most all 22 ammo will be subsonic. I am expecting better terminal performance. A 22 traveling with those rpm's should really act up when it makes contact with flesh. If you have any questions shoot me a text.
Awesome video
I THINK THE SHOT PLACEMENT MUST BE A PRIORITY NO MATTER IF YOU ARE SHOOTING A AIRGUN OR A FIRE ARM..the deal is take the game down fast and clean.....
I have a Hatsan .22 cal. magnum 125 that shoots at at almost 1,000 fps . That will kill anything 100 lbs. and under .
Awesome video sir great info 👍thanks for sharing bsafe buddy
@Chris Figueroa Thank you for watching!
@@HuntShootLive I have fx impact 25 cal 700mm mk2 power plenum that puts out about 95 to 100 fpe if I crack it up with 55 gr slug I think that will kill a deer at 25 ,35 yards with the right shot placement I would shoot one in a survival situation if I really had to because here in TX it's illegal with an air gun
Whether or not the air gun/rifle projectile combination penetrates for a kill, depends on the combined engineering of both gun and/or projectile/bullet. That is if they are meant to do so. Air guns are meant to be restrictive in killing power, that is by the powers that be. I have found over my 76 years, that hardened led balls work the best in the combination of penetration and energy transfer.
How is reliable cooking that sistem Gen2 is it same as cooking classic springer or does rifle has many parts to fill that barel. Only thing why I don't want Gamo cos I don't know how it's reliable air gun gen 2
I have about 500 shots in this one. Works well so far.
People are just denial bout the badassness of an air rifle.
@Oldboy1978 Big improvement from the daisy I had as a kid!
🔥🤗 little man gonna be a CZcamsr like daddy 🤗🔥
So then I think a 25 would do the trick . great video. stay safe.
I definitely gotta pick on of these up
@Freedom1776 It’s a great air rifle. Inexpensive way to scratch the trigger finger itch!
Badass video man
@Mr. Doctor Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. In case you haven’t seen it, here is my newest one with the new swarm magnum and a black bear…
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Great info
Umarex guanlet .25 you can up the pressure to about 905 to 927 fps. After that, the hammer & trigger spring that holds the air back loose thier integrity resulting in unreliable trigger pull. 27 full power shots. Polishing the bolt will make it easy to reload. Use a drier and the handpump to 3000psi. Sorry Gamo, the gauntlet will out perform the rifle tested for $300.
i think the Gamo Swarm Magnum Pro Gen3i 10X Air Rifle 177cal with gamo lethal pellets could do just the same :)
@sapientemsapientem80 I did a similar test on a black bear using the Swarm Mag Gen3i .177.
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@@HuntShootLivethanks i will tjeck your video out ... do you know if the Swarm Mag Gen3i .177 is worth the money i mean can it hit precise enough for small game ty in advange
I have a Benjamin trail np. Shooting jsb exact 18.3 gr 22 cal. Went completely through a squirrels heart at 60 yards. I've shot a day old for skull at 35 yard's between the eyes. It penetrated the brain no problem. All with the same gun and pellets.
@Bobby Rainey Sounds like a good combo! I hear a lot of good about Benjamin.
Hey Mr man nice video really like it. What kind of scope do you have on that gun ?
@orion m42 Thank you! That is the factory Gamo scope that came with the rifle.
@@HuntShootLive thank you for your quick response. New subscriber. Be blessed
@@orionm427 Thank you! Same to you!!!
I’ve taken 2 white tail down with Gamo varmint stalker .177. It’s not easy, you need to be very precise in hitting the heart. After hitting one in the heart, it only ran about 20’ before dropping dead. The second one ran off to about 40’ away before dropping dead. Both were accurate dead shots using Gamo Raptor gold plated pellets in .177.
You are the man!!!!
Thank you for this extensive testing. I found your channel around the time of the previous tests, I'm pleased to see the results of this one now. I feel quite confident my Crosman F4 (with RC bearing trigger mod and CVLife 3x9-40 airgun scope it's a pellet sniper rifle) using my modified Venturi pellet pens (with velcro to attach and detach from the gun, and the rubber from a 510 vape cartridge placed on the end of the pen to help prevent accidently wasting all of your pellets) pre-loaded with dieseled Crosman 7.4g pointed pellets generating an estimated 26 FPE muzzle energy could produce similar results. I need to make a video shooting that thing, I love my .177 break barrel, I can shoot a hundred rounds and still want to shoot it more.
@Gookoo Sounds like you have a solid setup. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
@gookoo.. oh son.. it's alright to own such an example of an "airgun", and even to have such a poor example of a scope on it. But it's like a moped and fat chicks, fun to ride but you never admit to it, let alone brag about it! Number #1: Never diesel an airgun, the seals weren't designed for that much pressure. Number #2: Never brag about it's accuracy, Crosman barrels are sourced from China and are extremely inaccurate because of the crown cutting. Number#3: Step up to a 22caliber, are you trying to kill mice? Number #4: at the bare minimum spend atleast $300 on a springer to even mention it in a forum. And I'm not a purist, I started off with crap guns too, but I knew better than to brag about them.
I LIVE IN N.C. WHERE THERE ARE NO CALIBER REGULATIONS FOR WHITETAIL DEER HUNTING & I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU WOULD FEEL CONFIDENT SHOOTING A DEER IN THE HEAD AT 40 -50 YDS WITHTHE GAMO WITH THE ROCKETS ??? What caliber 177 or 22 would u recommend 🤔
@CRAY-Z IF it were legal where I live (it’s not) I might hunt deer with it one time just to say I did. A perfectly placed headshot will get the job done, as demonstrated in my video. 30 yards would do. Not sure about further because I didn’t test it. The need for very precise shot placement would cause me to limit it to 30 yards or less. The fact is though, there are way better options for deer. If it’s the challenge you are looking for… maybe deer hunt with a shotgun using buckshot and try to limit yourself to a 30 yard head shot just for the challenge. I would worry the break barrel just has a lot of room for error with limited pellet size and power.
What part of Virginia u from? I stay in suffolk and I would love to go hunting with my fx 35cal . I have nobody to shoot with and don't know where to go to go shooting
@Roy Crowe I’m in Southwest. Hard to find places here also unless you have access to private land. I’m not familiar with your area.
@@HuntShootLive yes u have ro have private land . I didn't know it is illegal to hunt with a airgun .
I’ve got the gen 1 gamo mag in .22, from what I’ve seen..it could take a medium deer within 20-40yds. Use the right ammo, such as the power flight penetrators or hades rounds.
Don’t do it.
Well done video.
@telcomscott Thank you! Thanks for watching and for the comment.
What kind of scope do you use for your rifle?
@Jay H It’s the Gamo scope that came with the rifle. No problems with it so far. I do wish it had a drop compensating reticle though.
I bet the h an n hornets would of dun it every time with that sharp brass tip.
I wonder if you could kill through the eye. Is the bone thinner at the back of the eye?
@Wilfred Stewart I would say that is possible but you are increasing the likelihood for something to go wrong. Shot placement would have to be perfect.
how many joules does this gun have
How is the gun holding up? Really thinking about getting a generation 3
@Joe Botz It is still shooting well. I believe I like the swarm whisper better but it is slower than the magnum. The whisper is less expensive and still very accurate out to 30-40 yards though.
@@HuntShootLive thanks for the reply
Sorry I keep posting a lot of information but just wish you'd try that test again but use the h&n hornets and the GTO let free and the reason why I'm saying that is because the pellets you use are too soft and they expand and break but the GTOs led free are solid and won't break and will penetrate the skull and the horns have the copper tip which will penetrate too
Top rear quarter of the skull is the brain box!! Aim for the centre of that!
Can you hunt with a larger cal. air rifle?
Yeah here in Virginia the caliber is .35 minimum
There is a video about a guy with a gamo magnum in .22 taking out 2 hogs. I wouldn't do that unless my survival would depend on it (i'd use the pcp for it, because it's easier to shoot accurately) It won't kill a bear, but i can imagine it killing a human sized animal at a short distance.
What really concerns me is the shot groups on this weapon seem to really suck. If ya cant place 10 rounds inside a nickel at 25 yards how can ya trust the accuracy?
@vintagetrks Kelley If you are referring specifically to the air rifle I used, I was intentionally trying to hit in different spots so as not to repeat potential penetration in the same locations.
I would want the .30 cal. AEA Challenger . air rifle .
Can the gamo magnum shoot .22 slugs from apollo or h and n?
@ClarkesonTheMarksman As far as I can tell, yes, it should be able to. When I’m doubt I encourage you to email Gamo. They are very responsive to email.
HEY BROTHER I MISS WATCHING YOUR GAMO VIDEOS AND I MISS HEARING YOUR TURKEY THAT THE BEAR GOT TO BACK THEN.
@UPPERDECK89-1 Thanks for the comment! I miss my turkey as well. I really was sad about that. I can’t seem to keep any birds in the mountains where I live. The raccoons and bear make life pretty rough for the birds!
I have a Benjamin Maurader .25 cal. I’m willing to bet, this would penetrate the skull on a more regular basis.
I took a 120lb spike at 50-60yd with 22 trail Benjamin break barrel in Alaska. Heart shot right in the arm pit
@Chapo What type of pellet did you use?
It was crossman Walmart stuff. Probably round nose.
@@chapo1855 I'm sure a pellet with good expansion on impact would do the trick in the vitals.
i might buy the black ops sniper s bc i think its better than my Crosman CF7SXS Fire .177 Break Barrel Air Rifle, Black
I have a sort attention span so would you say that air gun would kill a deer? How heavy is the deer I’m curious
@Jose0o Oh come on! You can skip to the end.
I would think a good heavy hollow point to the neck would be the way to go with a air 22.
What's funny is I have read on CZcams that people think that on some animals you couldn't penetrate an animals skull with a 7.63x39 they think the round would just bounce off
@BBC MAN It never ceases to amaze me how often I encounter people who have opinions just based on their own thoughts. I don’t even respond to people like that anymore.
@@HuntShootLive Opinions are based on our own thoughts or it would not be your opinion. It's just that most people can't figure out a damn thing anymore. :)
Opinions are based on our own thoughts or it would not be your opinion. It's just that most people can't figure out a damn thing anymore. :)
So they rely on the opinions of others, who probably don't know how to figure anything out either. We call the "teachers" today, and it is considered "progressive" to not be sharp enough to figure out they are stupid. :)
One could only imagine what a dieseled H&N Hornet would do. I imagine a good 20% increase in velocity.
@Flatline I did a video a few weeks ago dieseling 15 grain pellets with the magnum and gained 200+ fps on some shots. That certainly would help any pellet penetrate significantly better.
This is awesome Works great is it a store easy to clean
@21dirtyj Follow the link in my video description for the product.
Keep in mind that dried skulls are way more brittle,
but I do think it is possible to make an ethical shot. With a decent air rifle
@rocknrollguitar Watch the whole video. This video is me doing the test on a deer that had been killed less than 30 minutes from the time I started the test with the pellet rifle. It was not a dried skull. The results were basically the same as with the dried skulls and no skin and muscle.
Wow what a good video
@Edwin Day Thank you!
I have a .457 Texan and I can deer hunt with that .
Next year.. Try neilson speciality ammo (NSA) slugs....
Would the Gammo be a good first air rifle for pest control?
@Riley McGuire Yes, it would be a great first air rifle.
@@HuntShootLive perfect! I'll look at getting one then! There are quite a few rabbits out by where I live so if I decided to get into gardening I may get one.