Brandon Staley out, is Justin Herbert one reason for Chargers' dysfunction? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones discuss whether the Los Angeles Chargers head coaching vacancy is a good job for candidates after firing Brandon Staley. The crew then reflects on whether any part of the Chargers dysfunction is on QB Justin Herbert.
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Yall Remember when Acho said the Chargers will always have a Problem as Long as Herbert’s their QB 😂
I cannot with these ridiculous wannabe philosophical Takes from Acho 🤦🏻♂️
He’s hated Herbert since he declared for the draft, he said he wasn’t a first round talent and said Jordan Love would be a better player than him
We’ll still have to see
How was that a bad take?
@@MikkiChavezname more than 5 teams that would be worse off if they switched their current QB with Herbert??? I’ll help you - KC, CIN, PHI, maybe BAL, BUF, who else???
@@jdotso23 every team would be. Jags, Colts, Panthers, 49ers, Cowboys, Detroit. Like what are we doing?
The players had given up on Staley a long time ago. They were playing for Herbert. Look what happened to team effort without him playing.
Exactly! Justin is definitely the reason why the chargers keep performing and for those who still keep saying Justin is not good well I hope the Thursday game would have given you some insight of what he does for the team.
@@art-alchemy no we look at the playoff game he choke away he couldn't convert a single first down in second half .couldn't get in field goal range
@@truthseekerchris8766bro the game against KC 3 seasons ago to take first place 4th&goal he didn’t take points believe he left 9 points on the field that night and we lost in OT, then next season lost to the raiders in OT because he didn’t want to tie. Then the jaguars lost that should have been the last game he coached in the NFL
uh...huh
@truthseekerchris8766
Talking random stuff man. Herbert had 4 drives in the 2nd half. He got into great field goal range twice (1 made, 1 miss). He had one 3 and out.
This is all with having 13 yards rushing on 8 carries. Can you imagine being up by 20+ points and still having to throw it more times than your opposing QB (who's trailing the entire game) because you can't get 2 YPC from your run game?
Also, Defense allowed a score on every drive in the 2nd half, but it's Herbert's fault...
So the Chargers GM and Headcoach get fired. The Raiders manage to have the highest scoring game in Raiders history. Justin Herbert wasn't even playing and somehow its STILL Justin Herbert's fault? Speak never fails to amaze me. This channel is just a meme
Facts
These fools would blame Herbert for the blowout because he didn't complete a single pass. This shows the level of intelligence of these talking heads.
@@peepingtomlinson They are plenty intelligent to speak of his regression this year though.
FACTS. Also they always name his talent, but they are ALWAYS hurt. I wonder how many games he actually played with all his skill position players.
They didn’t blame him
Herbert slander looks dumb now. Chargers are the worse team in the league without him.
They lost 1 game relax … everyone was saying Denver was the worst after they got smoked but now look at them
@@quentinchapman6987 Miami actually has offensive fire power. Giving up a 60 burger to a raider team that scored 0 last week is ridiculous.
@@quentinchapman6987lost one game to a team that scored 0 not even a full week prior. Have you seen what some of the other team and their back ups play? They seem to do pretty good huh? It’s called good coaching. Something to chargers have never had with Herbert as their QB.
@@quentinchapman6987they lost one game 63-21, with those 21 points scored in garbage time......
They’ve been bad all year Herbert deserves some blame. He’s regressed this year 💯 facts
I’m sorry, but this needs to end. Herbert is out with an injury and he’s not playing the rest of the season. Do you think he’s the reason they lost last night? They didn’t have their quarterback and their top receiver. I know Acho loves to hate on Herbert, but this was on the head coach not on the quarterback.
Herbert sucks. Not a winner.
He was one of the best under the tutelage of his mentor Anthony Lynn.
Not tradable!
Herbert deserves apologies from this cast except James jones
They're blaming Herbert for losing those close games like he wasn't the only reason they were still in it at that point.
It's true. He was the reason they occasionally looked like a good team some of the time.
Racism. Acho been criticizing him before the Chargers even had the 6th pick in the 2020 draft.
@@user-vn1vx4ey5pYou’re a clown
They cant help themselves blaming Herbert
Cause Acho is a CLOWN! 🤡🤡
"social media QB" smdh, clown takes
Never forget. Herbert is this generation's Aaron Rodgers, he has incredible individual talent and success, but the media will still try to hold team accomplishments against him.
@@zackhurwitz9441this is a whole lie. Say what you want about Rogers but he was making the playoffs. Herbert has made one appearance since entering the league.
Low hanging fruit
Did you realize how the team looked WITHOUT Herbert and Allen? Herbert is definitely not the problem, the offense was top 10 in the NFL, defense has been bottom 32 each of the past 3 seasons.
They gon keep hating bro just let it go, they never gon understand 😂
These are clowns. When “their” teams qb can’t win the game they blame the defense 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🚮🚮🚮🚮
Correct but he's regressed this year let's be honest, and I like Justin Herbert very much
I’m sorry being the highest paid in the building means credit and blame come your way
Not every game ends with an offensive possession. Statistics don’t lie, doesn’t help the offense when you’re giving up so many points and constantly have to be in a shootout or play catch up. Sure Herbert, Kennen, Eckler have all made mistakes but most of it falls on bad coaching. One player isn’t going to go out there and win the game for you, it’s a team effort. Doesn’t take a casual to see that.
all I’m saying is you can’t blame their entire record on Herbert alone, the whole team has problems which can be fixed under the right coach, and ofcourse probably let go some of the players that have not contributed to their success.
Herbert DID NOT have "everything he needed to win" on the last drive; his O-line failed to give him the time that the other mentioned QBs had to execute.
Don’t blame the o line, he didn’t make a play. Mahomes, Allen , Joe, Lamar they make plays.
@@tshebeletsotjabane4979 you're an NPC. Legit sounds like a ChatGPT comment, i stfg
@@tshebeletsotjabane4979I mean the packers game he literally put the ball in his WR’s hands with nothing but open field and the WR dropped it.
@@tshebeletsotjabane4979 Exactly, lacks a bit of the killer instinct.
@@devan9563 What did he do against the Jags in that second half? 0 points
Joe went to the sb without an oline
Herbert drove them down the field vs the lions, his defense sold him, raiders game earlier this year he threw a dot down the field on 3rd down to close the game, packers game herbert threw a perfect deep ball to quentin johnston, johnston drops the ball, dolphins game, his o line completely falls apart on the last drive and defense was terrible the entire game, Cowboys game the INT was bad sure, but how can u acknowledge all the problems with this roster and then blame herbert for them not winning...
Acho and company clearly dont watch the games.
While i don't think herb is elite he's 100% not this team's problem. The people blaming him are legit morons and there's no other way to put it
If you really look at the cowboys int. QJ sold man, he didnt even try and box out or catch aggressively.
@@Lauren-cc7yracho still salty he had to take back what he said about Herbert from before.
@@Apocalypse2031you think so?
Yall dont prepare. The cap is looking rough next year. There is no way half of that talent returns. Mike will and bosa spend more time off the field than they do on. Corey linselys was also a major loss on the oline that has regressed tremendously. A lot of good pieces, with herbert being the brightest one
Right, Cap, losing a bunch of players but most importantly, one of the cheapest ownerships in the league.
Facts. Most pundits are stupid
When Acho said he agrees with them but their point is incomplete, I thought he was going to talk about the cap issues.
IF and a big IF Q.Johnson can step up, a solid draft(top 10 pick) and Herbert takes another step and they’re an 11-6 team.
Dolphins, Titans, Cowboys and even Packers came down to Herberts offensive line not giving him time to throw when he had the ball last. I saw the Chiefs Bills game and Mahomes had the ball last and failed. Even after the touchdown was called back he still had 3 downs and he failed.
Didn't QJ drop a beautiful pass against the cowboys? Or a team right after. It's all a blhr
@@LifeAsDaneQJ has dropped a lot. The worst I saw was against the Packers on the 3rd down of the last possession. Herbert laid it out perfectly and QJ dropped it. It would have put them in FG range or he could have scored a TD.
For how much this team talks about the Chargers, they know nothing about the team.
They fired Staley too late .. he should’ve been gone when he played Mike in a game that didn’t matter n he got hurt then next week blew a 27 point lead
He should have been let go after that game against the raiders when he played for the tie lol
acho stays on herbert💀bro didn’t even play in this game and he’s still trying to find a way to pin 63 points on him
Acho is the definition of a show clown 🤡 He has terrible takes and everyone just laughs at him. Herbert didn't even play, and somehow it's his fault??
Acho is not real bright..just dumb enough to speak
What they forget is, that the chargers have one of the worst cap situations in the league next season. They might not be able to keep a lot of those players.
Neither should they. Ekeler has regressed. James has regressed. Bosa has regressed. Mike Williams injury prone. We need to clean house and rebuild
@@STW0173agree on ekeler, bosa and Williams but def keep Derwin. Imagine if bill came over and what he could do with Derwin James
@@shooksrule that would be interesting
@@shooksrule u like Dan Quinn?
@@shooksrule Bill's offenses without Brady have been TERRIBLE.
16.9 ppg for his career WITHOUT Brady on Offense across a sample size of 11 SEASONS.
ELEVEN. He's been BLOWN OUT by at least 3 tds MORE TIMES in the last 4 years than he has been in the 14 years COMBINED.
Brady MADE him.
Yall don't listen to FORMER players. Asante Samuel, Darrell Revis, Danny Amendola, etc, ALL say the same exact thing: "without Brady, Bill is just another coach."
Belichick is proof that a REPUTATION is more important than the empirical record.
EMPIRICALLY these 4 seasons should tell you all you need to know.
INEPT offensively.
Herbert has more game winners than all the QBs they named
In all 3 of those games, he had zero blocking at the end of the games. He can't win games if he has zero time to throw it.
Yup, in 3 years as a Charger his O line was always leaky.
Don’t forget it wouldn’t always have to be him winning EVERY game in the last minutes if he had the luxury of an at least average defense like other qbs
excuses he sucks and isnt clutch
Lol someone called this yesterday he was going to blame Herbert 😅🤣😂, pathetic
These fools would blame Herbert for the blowout because he didn't complete a single pass. This shows the level of intelligence of these talking heads.
Someone mad cleaning all that water up
You're seriously gonna blame Herbert? Dude's been carrying this team on his back for 3 years. Stop clowning us.
Forreal.
Needs more development.... Brah this dude carried the team all by himself till he couldn't. Herbert doesn't deserve any blame all those close games were lost by bad play calling and bad blocking. The film doesn't lie.
film says top 3 imo
He still needs development. Look at guys like ARod, Manning and Brady. If the play calling is bad they make checks or let the coaches know. I need to see that from Herbert, he’s got the talent but he’s gotta take control of that offense sometimes.
He absolutely needs some development, I see a lot of room for improvement in certain areas of his game, particularly knowing what "golf club" to use. Dudes got arguably the deepest bag of throws in the league he can make but he always settles on throwing heaters, learn to lay it up a little more. That being said, knowing he can still improve a lot is quite scary because for me, he's a top 3 QB in the league.
@@paranoia_xo hardest part is he doesn’t have the dudes to get open down field. He may have one of the best deep bombs but if no one’s open for it he isn’t going to risk it. Which maybe he should. But still he’s carried this team for 3 years now alone. He certainly doesn’t need any blame his way.
Plain and simple. They gave up on Anthony Linn, who only had Herbert for one season, which happens to be Justin Herbert's record-setting rookie season. 🤔
I kind of understood moving on from Lynn at the time, though I definitely do wish he got at least one more season with Herbert, in hindsight. I do get the ownership wanting to rebuild it around Justin, though.
It was mind-boggling to me, and they didn't even replace him with some great coach. It was around the time more media was asking why aren't their more black coaches. There, you had a black coach with what we could tell would be a franchise QB and a great 1st season. Instead of building on the continuity you fire him and find the cheapest, most unqualified white guy to replace him. Mind-boggling. No one ever mentions that either because the team doesn't have enough fans, I assume. They need to get rid of that ownership.
If Herbert is in that game they at least keep it close, probably even win
Wow. Maybe beat the Raiders? 4realz? Man, they might get a 58 rating on Madden next year....
@@0sAndOnes not maybe, probably
I lobbied for the Justin Herbert contract but he and Kellen Moore still have a lot of questions to answer.
Kellen Moore ain’t gonna be here
Herbert is making how much? How did the Chargers look without him?
In my opinion as a chargers fan, the top candidates for HC are: 1. Jim Harbaugh, 2. Bill Belichick, and 3. Ben Johnson.
I was thinking Jima Harbaugh as well.
Chargers got fans?!?!
Lol
Jim Harbaugh is probably the best fit. Young QB that he can develop. Some good pieces you can either build around or trade for assets. It's going to be a very tempting job for a lot of folks.
I hope you're spared Belichik. He's worse than Staley. You may consider Tomlin or McDermott, they may be getting antsy and want to jump ship.
@@jeanfourcade Belichik would be the worst hire. Not even because I think he's washed. He is not what they need right now.
The only games I truly blame Herbert for are the Cowboys and Ravens game. The titans one he drove them down to tie after the defense was abysmal. But Staley couldn’t even make this defense average.
in the cowboys game the int, theres an angle that shows johnston being bullied away from catching the ball, that wr has no sense of boxing out dbs and crumbles at the tough of physicality
The dolphins game too. He had a chance to drive the ball down the field to win. What happens next: He takes two consecutive sacks to end the game.
no mention of the o line letting him get hit in minus 2 seconds...@@kevinstewart8054
@@kevinstewart8054 Staleys defense put us in that situation. That shootout shouldn’t have happened. Staley left JC on an island against arguably the best receiver in the league. That game was on Staley….not Herbert
@@kevinstewart8054 I mean they put up like 35 points that game, you can't expect an offence to just score every single drive. Fangio dialed up some nice blitzes and shut the door, it is what it is.
I never wanted to clock somebody in the face as hard as I do with McCoy and Acho. Ekeler was a good running back for one season, and he was only good because of his receiving ability. As a pure runner, he is terrible. Saying this roster is elite is ridiculous based on how they played this season. Half of those players they named are gonna be gone next year. However this coaching job is still intriguing because of Herbert. So make it make since, if you’re going to talk so much smack about Herbert and still say this jobs intriguing because of him, then your takes about Hebert a ridiculous. Saying Hebert is the issue just shows how blind you are. Saying he needs to carry this team in his back,…. that’s what he has been doing since he came into the league. You literally just saw how they looked without him for once, they literally looked worse than the panthers. Hebert should get a sliver of the blame, but I’m talking about 2% of it. The rest of it is on Staley and TT.
NAHHHHHHH. I LIKE Herbert, a LOT.
But he HAS TALENT AROUND HIM. Definitely on offense.
NO TEAM IS FLAWLESS. Look around you dude. The NFL has more TALENT parity than ever before.
Bills? Look wobbly.
Bengals? Look wobbly.
Chiefs? Look wobbly.
Chargers? HAD THREE WINNABLE GAMES that Herbert blew. Period.
Staley is TRASH. He's had a bottom 5 defense every season he's been the Chargers Head Coach. BUT the Chargers passing offense, in terms of talent at TE, WR, and RECEIVING back (i agree that ekeler isn't the best in-between the tackles but he's a super elite receiving back).
Lamar Jackson TOOK BUMS as a ROOKIE to the playoffs. Lamar has won UNANIMOUS MVP with what weapons, Mark Andrews? Lamar has WON a playoff game.
Lamar is only one of players EVER to put up 500+ yards BY HIMSELF in a playoff game (the only two other players to do that are Brady The GOAT, Big Ben, and now Lamar).
Herbert has had MORE talent and "help" in general than Lamar Jackson has. He needs to elevate his play in CLOSE, WINNABLE games.
With a BETTER coach, he will play better because he has all the tools but they fired Anthony Lynn, a guy who put up a TOP 10 DEFENSE in his last season as HC of the Chargers for the low IQ fraud that is Staley. If you're gonna blame ANYBODY it's the ownership.
And, also, Charger fans should have been calling for his head from day 1. Staley SUCKS. Herbert isn't clutch though.
His rookie year, led the league in one-score game losses.
Sophmore year, finished top 5 in the league in one-score game losses.
THIS season....(I'm sure you can guess what I'm about to say).
Thats on the QB. Are you CLUTCH or NOT?
Herbert, if the playoff game is any indication (all he needed in the 2nd half was an EXTRA FG and they put that game to bed), is NOT CLUTCH.
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270yeah and the kicker missed the fg remember? Is that on him as well?
Youre not "carrying the team" if your losing! LMAO 🤣🤣🤣. Herbert is like 27-30 career. Lol carrying the team 😂😂😂
@@0sAndOnes so you’re saying this team looks exactly the same when he’s playing vs when he’s not? Get out of here with that nonsense. This team has good players who have been underachieving, the only ones that actually lived up to their names are Herbert, Keenan, and Mack. The rest we injured or playing terrible. The only reason this team was considered good was bc Hebert was in, and keeping them close in games. Without him, they’re a bottom 4 team in the league
How can u say that go ahead and google the qb with the most GWD 4th qtr comebacks and share with the class what you see. U can't compare lamars rookie year he didn't play the entire year, and he got Harbaugh for godsake. On top of that, he a running qb they ain't the same, especially statistics wise.
Justin Herbert slander needs to stop! His disappointing season is better than all but 3-4 QBs this season. 23 TDs 8 turnovers! He has more game winning drives than every QB since entering the NFL not named Patrick Mahomes. Did you see the Chargers without Herbert yesterday?
He ain’t clutch right now. Sorry it is what it is and I love what JH can become he just ain’t doing it. Sorry.
Yah and 1 of the turnovers is a hail marry in end of 1H as time ran out. It is not a consequential turnover. The O got the ball with 10 seconds left before half and the Chargers went for the endzone with 1 play. Most teams would take a knee. But not Herbert and his arm throw. Hail Mary's are usually catches or interceptions.
Speak on THIS year not his history. He played bad this year no other way around it.
@@grizzz_9042 He hasn't played bad this year! Wild statement you just made
@AscendAR Stats tell one part of the story. If you watch him play he turns the ball over at worst times or he fails to get them either a FG or a touchdown to win. He has cost his team at least 3 games. For what he's getting paid to do he's played bad this year.
Herbert can’t make his receivers catch the ball unfortunately
Keenan Allen the only one that catches
@@FaceFamousthats capp
Tbh as soon as Acho’s turn came up, I skipped. Lmao.
The takes on this show leave a lot to be desired. Staley is well overdue in being fired yet they still find a way to make it about Justin Herbert and take a dig at him. If anything the team without him playing shows how bad the team actually is and how he was actually the only thing holding things up. The Chargers need to take a long look in the mirror to their big contracts on their roster and the players not equaling up to their resume from their on field play or always being injured. It feels like the only one with the most palettable takes is James and Shady. Joy just be winging it and rambling. Acho does put time and thought into his takes.. I'll give him that ...sometimes he hits the nail on the head but sometimes he's way off the mark. I will also say the show is entertaining and light but that's also it's fault.. it doesn't dive in deep with real debate or substance. No talk of Staley's egregious debacles over his time with the team that called his job to be called into question, no talk about potential candidates to take his position...Just an opportunity to blame Herbert again.
As a Cowboy fan I can’t believe they all sat up there and they praised the quarterback and none of them said what the real problem with that team,that offense and if Kellen Moore who they just hired if they keep him they keep the real problem
Absolutely!!!! Old Dallas 2.0… lot of empty stats and no quality wins. Look at Dak now 👀. Herbert is the new version. Please the HC should be fired for bringing Moore in anyway
Nobody has brought that point out in any of these shows so thanks for making it. In fact I did not connect Dak’s improvement with Moore leaving! As Cowboys fan you guys would know as it seemed from the media narrative that Mcarthy was to blame!
Agreed! Also, we also have to examine the negative narratives that have been put out on Dak. False narratives can shape a player’s career. Dak has been a great quarterback and leader for his team. Justin is a great quarterback who benefits from having a positive narrative in the media.
Acho has a personal friendship with Brandon Staley. I don't expect him to put a fair, honest blame on Staley publicly. He was really excited when Brandon got the HC job. Even rival Charger fans don't want Herbert & Co to get a good coach - that's pretty telling where talent is.
He should excuse himself from these Charger discussions. But he decides to make career out of it and doesn't even disclose his personal friendship that is giving him an unconscious bias.
Did we watch the same video or are you trolling? He literally said Staley is a friend of the Acho family and was his brother's coach. He also said Staley didn't hold up his end of the deal multiple times during this discussion saying the defense wasn't good. You go into a video with an agenda and you're gonna hear what you want to hear. Perhaps you are the one with an unconscious bias here. I suggest rewatching the video.
2:05 we all said “No” Shady🤣
Anyone know what Acho’s problem with the Chargers is? It’s clear at this point he’s always gonna find a way to trash them
I don’t think chargers fans would deny that Justin deserves blame for the losses but where we disagree is that acho loves to say he is a bad QB he only softens his stance very time it doesn’t fit the narrative that he wants to push
100% - Herbert is the modern day Aaron Rogers - all the physical gifts & arm talent yet Rogers has only 1 title in almost 20 yrs and has less comeback wins than Kirk Cousins, Andy Dalton, Ryan Tannehill, Derek Carr, Carson Palmer, etc … elite QB but below avg in the clutch
Only the cowboys game I can for sure say is on him
the herbert not delivering is such a lazy take. dude had 2 game winning throws against the patriots and raiders. shouldve had another one against the packers if QJ could catch. he shouldve had a GWD against detroit but the defense gave up a GWD instead. he had a GWD against minnesota. the cowboys game is the only game where he truly failed in that moment.
What about last year in the playoffs?
Herbert is an easy target since last year's loss to the Jags. But he's carrying this team, there is no doubt. He can't just do it all by himself, and he's still really young, maybe not assertive enough. Notice how Mahomes (and I'm a Chiefs fan) doesn't get an ounce of blame, although we lost close games we should've won, too (Eagles, Packers, Bills). To be honest, I'm afraid Herbert is stuck with a badly run franchise. Let's hope you guys get a good coach who knows how to build and manage a roster. Peace, Jordan.
@@justinpeterson3686Drove them down the field for the dagger field goal that would’ve buried Jacksonville and the kicker missed it. Herbert has carried that team since he got there
Eh, I think he kinda wet the bed in the Titans game as well.
what do teams do with 20 plus point leads do they pass or do they run...
@@justinpeterson3686
Tell me you haven't actually watched the game, without telling me you haven't actually watched the games. 🙄
Love the start with the water pouring 😂
The receivers let Herbert down this year. Allen has been phenomenal, yet look at all the drops
Allen is trying to get Brett Veach's attention, dropping as many passes possible.
Y'all need to be fxckkng men and stop letting emotions drive your opinions
Herbert has 14 game winning drives in his career already... pretty sure that puts him near the top in active QBs. You simply can't win every week like that in the NFL. That's why coaching and defense needs to come through more often than not.
Good luck to the future GM. Bosa, Mack, Keenan Allen and Mike Williams account for 25% of the cap and Herbert's contract hasnt even kicked in yet. They have talent, but a lot of that talent is injured or underperforming. And they still need to address several positions, especially defensively. That cap situation will need some real finessing for a team that was built and paid to compete right now.
got that wrong homie... those 4 account for almost 50%... over 30 million a year for bosa and mack... together over 70 million... Williams 32 million... Allen 36 million...
2 of em getting cut. Mike W & Joey fasho gone. Maybe one more
Joey too much dead money... not sure@@Rodricktyrone
@@anti-classist Go to spotrac and look at each player's salary and the cap hit this year. Lol in case you don't, here's the math.
Mack - 16,632,500
Bosa - 15,776,666
Allen - 12,782,500
Williams - 13,540,000
Combined cap hit - 58,731,666
Chargers adjusted salary cap this season - 226,520,964
58,731,666 divided by 226,520,964 = 25.93% of the team's cap space.
So who's wrong? I don't just throw numbers out without understanding them.
You can drop Mack, Mike Willians or attempt to trade them for late round picks. heck some may wish to leave if they only there for the weather and want to be on a team with a shot at the playoffs. Ekler you can just drop period.
That’s that get back after firing Anthony Lynn
It’s the water pouring for me 😂😂😂😂
It’s comical that Nacho is still infatuated with Herbert even when he’s not playing.
Justin is a very good QB unfortunately he had a bad Head coach
“I said Noo,I said Noo!” 😂😂💪🏾
Introducing Bill Beli and the Chargerett’s 🤣
Justin herbert should be the mvp after how bad the chargers played yesterday. Top 4 pick now
You can tell these guys dont even watch the games, otherwise theyd know bosa and mike williams have season ending injuries, and all the other skill players have been injured for nultiple games except allen. Yet they always name them and go " they gota lot of talent, they should be winning games"
Awesome show 🔥😁
Great job!!! No coach, no GM and no salary cap!!! They're $42 million over the cap!! What great players are they going to have after cuts!!! They definitely didn't do their research on this one and took the easy nanarrative 😂😂😂😂
OC Eric Beinimey from Redskins/Chiefs would be 💎
If Jim Harbaugh decides to come back to the NFL, this might be a good team to go to.
Ethics-shmethics!
Herbert doesn't deserve much blame(10% at most)
However, there are moments where he doesn't deliver.
All in all, the chargers need to retool the roster/coaching staff to better suit Herbert
Joy and acho forever will be clowns 🤡
Shady said “do you really wanna go over there and coach?” 6 different ways and it meant something different every time 😂😂😂
Herbert’s biggest haters smh 🤦🏽♂️
Acho Confirmed on X last night the only reason he attacked Herbert was because he had a personal relationship with Brandon Staley. Everyone with a brain knew who the actual problem was in LAC and it wasn't #10.
I love that Joy’s impression are always Scrooge as a coach lol
These ppl talk about Herbert like he wasn't playing with a broken finger, sorry O-line and bad head coaching...
Hey Acho maybe Herbert was tired of Staley too ..
He smart son !!
This team always hating on Herbert
I don’t think any qb would have a winning record with that defense, with no oline, with no running game, with no receivers 🤦♂️🤷🏽♂️
This!!
Without a doubt one of the best shows out there, and the reason why? Cuz I listen to this as a podcast. Trying to watch this @ 360p after a day of being up is ROUGH
Herb living rent free in this dudes' head
It’s insane how these guys are employed
Playing what’s wright with Nick wright theme is wild!
Bruh the team was like “Oh all we gotta do is lose lose, and he fired….. YALL KNOW WHAT WE GOTTA DO! No Effort on three… ONE…. TWO….. THREE…. NO EFFORT
5:39 👀 ok that there got me 😐🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️
Joy u a fool for this one bro
They blame tua for everything but Herbert gets the longest rope I've ever seen 😂😂😂😂😂
I believe Staley should've been fired years ago. His defense was always horrible and offensively they were either playing close games or losing because defensively they couldn't stop teams. They need a better coaching staff.
Joy really only made one glaring error in her analysis: in the 1st half, the Raiders' lead had everything to do with the Chargers' offensive play as there were multiple turnovers leading to shorter fields and scores. I was very disappointed in everyone's initial points except Acho's, as he is correct: their best talent is expensive, aging, oft hurt and frequently underperforming. I doubt Eckeler is there next year and his current backups were awful this year when they were starters. Mack & Bosa's years are odd because you'd expect the performances to be opposite, Bosa with the 13+ sacks and Mack slowing down or injured. You cannot count on this level of performance from Mack next year. The Chargers also do have an identity as an organization: always top tier talent, always falling well short of expectation. That goes back to Fouts days when they blew the lid off prior offensive performances but had equally bad defenses. They don't even have a dedicated home field. It's a bad organization whose perfect climate (at least when they were in San Diego) hides the problems until Sundays. Padres are the same way. More talent on paper, less production on the field.
Herbert gets sacked every chance he gets to win the game. His O-line is non existent on all of their final drives. He doesn’t even get 2 seconds to throw the ball…..
I really need Acho’s connect. Dude is pumped like every episode
Joy freaking out about the cables/cords laying around 😂😂
TO BE HONEST....... TOMLIN DOESNT SOUND BAD AT ALL IF HES PLANNING ON RELOCATING
Why do the people on this show hate Justin Herbert so much? I know Acho hates him since he came into the league for some reason and has convinced the rest.
Nick Wright has pointed out that the Chargers are going to have to release a lot of players due to cap issues.
They blew it this year, it was their chance.
Once again Acho with the masterclass analysis
I really like the way the guys on this show allow Joy Taylor to speak freely without interrupting or bullying! Great show.
Because they actually respect her football knowledge as she was pretty much raised in the Dolphins organization
@@0sAndOnes They only respect her because she’s good looking, she’s a biased Dolphins fan
Joy around 2 minutes in is thinking "we are getting electrocuted with all this water and these wires!" 🤣
Why is Acho still here????
Hahaha 😂 Joy is like I am going to need yal to stop wasting water 😂😂
herbert has some blame , but who's going to stand in there game after game with no blocking at the end of the game and your coaches are calling plays to only one receiver who is being double teamed , no back in the backfield to block , qb has one second to get the ball off and the defense knows which direction the ball is going because their coach has coached them for this situation , no fullback to block for your rb so he's tough but can only take so many hits head-on because he is not a power back. teams have a great opprotunity to win close games early in the year if they are prepared for situation football and the bolts have failed very bad early in the season
Games blamed on Herbert
LAC vs Dolphins
LAC drives and scores to take the lead 3:53 left.
LAC Def gives up TD 1:45 left
LAC vs Tenn
LAC TD go ahead lead. 21-17 14:38
Tenn TD go ahead lead 24-21 2:33
LAC FG to tie game 0:00
LAC vs Dal
Dal TD 17-10, 11:19
LAC TD 17-17, 7:11
Dal FG 20-17, 2:19
These games come down to the defense not getting stops when they are needed.
Is Herbert perfect, no. But he has no help on the other side.
“HIM HIM SELF” bro said that with extreme intensity
Shady clearly didn’t prepare and study their salary cap situation going forward😂😂 The Chargers are in for a long off season
"accountable for the name ... the game doesnt match the name " Bruh, Acho got BARS!!!
Acho's takes on Herbert are off most times
Ain't nobody telling the truth. Staley should not have gotten the job. He was supposed to be a defensive coach but they never ranked higher than 15th.
6:08 Great point from Joy
Who put this upload together? They must be new to video encoding.
They powin out water for dude😭😭
Acho just out here casually dropping bars.....
Dude played with a fractured finger on both hands throughout the season. O-line and d-line was nonexistent so tell me how he is supposed to excel. Before he got the first fracture he was balling. You should have put him on IR and let him heal up rather than make it worse. Protect your investment