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A good argument against ww and these new Blackpillers could be: just look at society before dating apps and social media. Stacies married sub 5s? 2/10 dated beckies? no! Couples were looksmatched! Its not an utopia!
So why everytime we imagine a fair distribuition of dating to most men people start to think that we are forcing stacies to date sub 5s? The answer you said very clearly in this vídeo. Gynocentrism.
@@recreationalmcnukes3966 the point is, he shouldnt even go towards that direction of talking about government intervention. Its a useless discussion, that only a miniscule fraction of the bp community believes. Yes, government solutions go badly, bla bla. No one is trying to "change that fact". Whats the connection with the topic tho? Considering this alternative, just to eventually say that, guess what, stacies and sub 5s are not made for each other only shows the growing gynocentrism inside the bp community.
@@recreationalmcnukes3966 the current generation of young wimin will not change it's mindset so its not an option, plus taking back any wimin right is unfair and not happening, the only thing you can do is looksmax, conservativism/traditionalism is cope and destined to fail.
The normies of today will give birth to the inkwells of tomorrow. You can't stop the trends of male beauty standards rising, woman having more choice, more males being born than females. You can't stop human evolution
That's why the traditionalist copes fail. You can never turn the clock back
Enforcing the equality of outcome anywhere leads to many problems. First of all, the distribution of males and females is unequal. How are you gonna tackle this "simple" issue? What do you do to ensure that the next generaions ratio is gonna be 50 to 50? Are you going to force todays married couples to produce only daughters, or are prepared for killing a few hundreds of thousands men every 15 to 20 years to assure the equal ratio? And this is only one of the problems the Distribution program would inevitably spawn into existence.
@@mahadhosh6400 I can understand your point, but still, there are so many potential issues with this redistribution program that by the time we figure it out the vast majority of children ( naturally born) will have been of Chads descend, so the problem kinda takes care of itself. Just give it 25 to 50 years.
One of wheat waffles’ earliest videos was calling out based zues for being a grifter. Fast toward 2 years later he turned into the guy he was exposing.
Wheat Waffles was always fishy remember MGTOWs saying about men who are one blowjob away from going back to the plantation, it´s well fitting for grifters like Wheat Waffles.
Good work laying it all out. F&LMS was my old school intro to this, along with the more philosophical black pill channels like Thinking Ape/Stardusk. I have followed WheatWaffles coming up and appreciated that he was making the lookism aspects of BP more mainstream, but I see all of the issues you are bringing up clearly. There are a number of newer BP channels that do not fall into this 2022 paradigm, like VantaBlackpill, or Blackpill Conversations.
Thank you for letting me know of those channels. I have not watched them yet.
you got some good blackpill channel recommendations
Looksmaximus was a good channel too, shame he turned on his audience tho
As a 2022 new comer to the BP I am guilty of some of the characteristics you pointed out in the Intro. The BP is becoming more Mainstream which is resulting in a shift of the principles which the BP contains.
Thank you for the video.
WW's old videos were much much better than what he currently does🙄
ITV, Faceandlms, saint hamudi and ZG blackpill team forever 💪
Ironic how Waffes say redpillers are scammers, but he's doing the same thing.
Tails is even worse and more extreme and spergy than WW. His argument is always; "If you were a chad, you'd be pro-feminist and never wanted to change the society as it is now" - yeah, but 90% of us aren't and never will be a chad. His so spergy I can't stress it enough.
is it even the original tails still running the channel? i heard he gave it away to some norwegian who was obsessed with face ratings. his channel pretty much went downhill once he started plugging his face rating service. either way his channel is basically a redpill channel now and regularly he posts stuff that directly contradicts his older videos and comments.
@@copiumoverdoser yea the OG Tails channel was really good but since he gave it away the channel is just videos about ChadSimping and Stacy worship
is he wrong tho? sounds like you just got angry bc that fact doesn't solve your inkwel status.
@@NimrodTheMaidenless yes, he is wrong. First of all show me a study about a correlation between physical attractiveness and political views. If you fail to do so, then shut up and stop protecting those anti scientific bullcrap that he preaches. Second of all - if hypothetically a chad would always vouch for feminism and female rights, then it is only because it benefits him, just like patriarchy would benefit average men - everyone has his individualistic reasons. Therefore why should I stop vouching for patriarchy and conservatism? Just because if I were a chad I wouldn't? Of course - but it's all individualistic reason. I'd argue that chads don't even care about feminism at all, cuz they're too busy slaying. So in summary: there's no such evidence, and even if there is, it's all the selfish genes that vouch for what benefits them.
he thinks he came up with some commonly believed concepts from ages ago as well. so full of himself
Don’t forget dr freeman, that dude literally just screen records from other blackpillers, then adds a useless narration of what we can clearly see, and also charged face ratings.
Bro banning never works, it only moves the thing you banned to the black market. Not a real solution.
I agree to some extent, but when people use the BP to claim that Feminism and sexual freedom are good and that's how things *have to* be, refutation is necessary.
This is the end for this community, I learned everything I had to and for now I only watch simple blackpeel videos for coping, like shorts from zoomer trader. Soon the black pill will turn back to red thanks to a Waffles that has not even worked on his looks like a true blackpeeler, and I will go into the sunset with all the knowledge and will never mention them in the real life
2022 Blackpill is basically feminism
The term you're looking for the whole video is "strawman argument" : "By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable"
And yes you're right, I enjoy WW videos but this one was a complete strawman. Especially the part where he voluntarly show a stacy with a sub5.
I think sometimes we romacticising chad because we inside wanna live the life in easy mode that Chad has
No... it's because even if you had a son as a sub5 then he'd be in a way worse position than you due to the rise of beauty standards for men, more men he needs to compete with etc.
Their life would be even more brutal
One of the best menospere videos since 2020
Wheat waffles suck
In polish inqel community I have lastly seen some weird admiration of blacks
#dickpill #mokebe 😏
Women are race traitors dont be suprised
Maybe switch women. Blqck men get hwite women and hwite men get blqck wamen
@@betabuxxstepdadtoasinglemo1925 the problem is observation of white women dating black men is fiction, inceltv has a video on it. In polish incelosphere this is a habit similar to puting yourself down with contemplation of how perfect the chad is, but instead of chad they picked black men, who they call mokebe.
@@betabuxxstepdadtoasinglemo1925 thats disgusting no respect for women and men who do that they are trash.
Like Smash TV says... The Black Pill is becoming the Grey Pill.
But then Scribe don't agree with Lasagna, when he's teiling the truth.
More like the Navy Blue pill.
Blackpill fact about WW is that normies treat british accent as a voice of authority and a voice to be trusted.
17:26, my comment.
I stand by what I said, in wheats system of socialised dating there was no looks based allocation meaning you could be allocated any women. I guess I used to being an inc4l but I'd honestly rather this life than be allocated a random woman who would probably not be interested in me. You can't claim to be blackpilled and not see how a state allocated partner wouldn't result in a dead bedroom for many men. Not to mention divorce rates in my country. ITV was right, taking a looks at r/deadbedrooms makes you realise things could be worse.
Also, what makes you entitled to a partner? I stand by this too, as if you're entitled to a partner and no woman is interested, who will rectify this? Like seriously man, the government?
I've been involved in the blackpill since early 2020. I like some of what wheat says but like you point out he does prey on insecure men, he's also lost the blackpill too, he's more dark redpill.
I also share your gripe with tails, as well so a lot of his evolution bro science nonsense, he's also a shitty person and has tried to start a civil war within the blackpill. Calling out ITV most recently. His pretty boy worship is also akin to that of a 14 year old girl.
Bottom line, I'm not a new blackpiller and I agree with most of what you said here with the exception of the rebuttal to my comment and the panic about losing the blackpill content, ITV still rakes in 40k views a video, the 'old' blackpill isn't dead, FaceandLMS may have retired but Travis blackpill, Based Pluto, Grotesque Subhuman, CBP are still going and haven't sold out.
You make very good points in your comment. I understand your perspective now, it makes sense to not want to be allocated a random woman. Although I would be careful with the "you're not entitled to a partner" cliche. This statement is used by bluepillers and feminists to shame sub7s for wanting a woman. When you're an lncel society wants you to be asexual and accuses you of being entitled for daring to desire women. Your intentions might have been different as a blackpiller, but the statement is the same. Other than that, I have no important disagreements. Thank you for your comment.
@@zgblackpill2866 I understand man, but I don't mean this in a shaming way when I say it. I mean that unfortunately, there's a looks threshold in the current dating market, due to online dating, simps etc, and anyone below this will heavily struggle to find love in the west.
Thinking you're entitled to a partner and never actually getting a partner can lead to some serious resentment towards yourself. A lot of PUA have this sort of mindset when they run the numbers game. Getting repeatedly rejected or betabuxxing just because you feel like you need a partner is arguably worse than living out your days alone or trying your luck outside the west where dating hasn't been ruined yet.
Thanks for the reply, keep this sort of content coming, we need more new 'old' blackpill channels if that makes sense.
@@sideshowbob6241 I agree with you, bro. The West is like a dystopia when it comes to women. The standards even for things like betabuxxing have gone through the roof. From my own experience, you have to be a financially stable gymmaxxed chadlite or else even ugly ethnic women won't respect you.
If you add me on Discord I can share some screenshots of my conversations with an ethnic girl, it's like a comedy at this point.
Any man who takes this game seriously or even participates in it has no respect for himself. This is how things should be done: you live your life normally, and things either come naturally, or nothing happens and that's it (never began). Trying to learn game and beg for p*ssy on the streets like PUAs do, or any kind of effort where you go out of your way to impress/attract women is pointless.
Chad doesn't need to go out of his way, it's actually never been easier for Chad to not be sexless. If you need to ask yourself "what do I do to not be an Incel?" If never began.
The only thing that everyone should do is have low body fat % and be healthy. Also have a moderate consideration for how you dress, just basic taking care of yourself. Nothing special, don't waste money on expensive clothes, or spend 30 minutes in the mirror to do your hair and cover your acne with CC cream. All of those small things like combing your hair are a ver small percentage of the equation. What matters most is what is hardest to change - your bones.
@@zgblackpill2866 drop your discord and I'll add you.
Agree with everything you said there, the west is failing in so many ways now. Men have lost their sense of dignity and what it means to be a man as it's constantly demonised in the media.
I'd honestly make the claim that even if you can attract women the juice might still not be worth the squeeze, I'm not MGTOW by any means but the divorce rates are like 50% or higher in many western countries, and with divorce you'll lose half your stuff you've worked your whole life for. Getting married certainly isn't worth it in the 21st century, more and more guys are catching on to this and a lot of the redpill dudes champion this too.
The thing that pains me the most is that I'm like a 6 on the looks scale yet attracting women is an issue. Not being NT is awful. I'll go months without interacting with a girl my age, excluding the obligatory cashier and receptionist interactions.
I'm going to SEAmax within the next 2 years, no harm in trying.
Also your last point, it's crazy how obvious what you say here is yet I see inc4ls who are overweight whining about who they can't get a girlfriend, we have a generation of guys who have no clue how to look attractive to women. The blackpill was originally for the guys who tried everything and still failed, like ITV, who gymmaxxed and simped in his early days.
My discord is E Matei Blin#8531
I saw the thumb for the WW video and I knew it would be garbage, didn't even bother watching it.
18:30 of course wheat waffles gives a false definition and everyone ignores that
26:00 bruh.... WW is a sperg 😂🤦🏾♂️
tails use to be a Chad he says that stuff to cope with the fact he is now an incel
How do you know that? Did he make a face reveal?
@@DaaWood998 he said he was once a Chad lite
@@jameslight4391 But from apparent we can only assume that he's a voice-cel. And that's all, anything he says is unverified
Solid video my dude, good observations.
YES
FINALLY a blackpiller who says clearly that there is a cure to inceldom : Traditional POLITICS AND CULTURE.
WE CAN CHANGE THIS MESS.
ORGANISE
FIGHT
You are aware that men traditionally LOVE the idea of sexual freedom right? They only started preferring monogamy very recently when sexual freedom actually became a thing. Men always want what they don’t have. As soon as they have it, they don’t want it anymore 😅
@@pwh5805 *Chad likes sexual freedom
And people are stupid
@@marshall_zhukov Unmarried men want to be married, married men want sexual freedom, it’s always something they don’t have. They’re worse than children.
Could you make a video with ideas on how society could change in a positive way ?
I will discuss this topic in a future video, thanks for the suggestion.
The only way is to forcefully ban dating apps / social media so that women have less access to chads. But obviously it's never going to happen.
@@DaaWood998 more importantly, I doubt this would be enough.
Women would still be living in cities, spending their best years on university campuses surrounded by Chad.
The point of social reform should be to 1. Get women to stay or return to smaller and more diverse communities lookswise in order to reduce their dating pool.
2. Get most women out of all academic life after high school, with exceptions for nursing, education, and other maternal fields
Dude are you recording a blackpill video outside 😂
excellent video
Thank you
Even in the so called patriarchy, only the top males got the best women, and the rest were looks matched.
The worst part of the blackpill, is every person trying to one up each other, "I'm more oppressed!". Its really pathetic. You should be making your life better, not obsessing over things you can't change and spreading misery.
That’s not what the black pill is
You can only make your life so much better
Could you comment on Travis Blackpill content about oofy doofies. Thousands, again thousands of pics in public where you can see average and below average looking dudes with women. I'm not denying the bp just saying it is not that big deal if you have a social circle. The main problem is we live isolated.
Quite often women date men they don't find attractive. Keep that in mind.
What a well done vid man, subbing. I'm at minute 10 and you haven't mentioned mgt0w which might have been the first split of RP community.
Take care.
I pointed out the same thing on his channel. Socialism is the intermediate step between two extremes; capitalism and communism. Socialism is when commoditise like oil, coal, water and other natural resources aren’t owned and controlled by individuals or companies and industries that are supposed to be public like healthcare and education are.
This is unrelated to the Blackpill, at least as far as dating is concerned, but Communism and Socialism are both part of the same ideology - Marxism. Marx even uses them interchangeably.
According to Marxist-Leninist theory, Socialism is what I stated in this video, an economic system in which the means of production (like workplaces, factories, etc.) are not privately owned by capitalists. There is still a state and money. Like in the USSR, for example. Communism is the goal and final stage of Socialism. Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. predicted that, when Capitalism becomes a thing of the past in the entire world, at some point the state as we know it today will cease to exist, as well as currency and class. That future stateless, classless and moneyless society is referred to as Communism.
@@zgblackpill2866 There are and we’re other socialist philosophers besides Marx, Engles and Lenin. Socialism is not communism. All the ‘manosphere’ gurus try to invoke the name of socialism to push whatever shade of conservative pro-corporate right wing nonsense they subscribe to. Me personally I don’t agree with a society where everyone is made equal but I hate when private individuals own things like oil, water public infrastructure and so on. Some things belong in the public and some private
@@lamarazmoe6438 Well, if there is a private sector, it's Capitalism. What you describe sounds like Social Democracy, which is basically Capitalism with welfare and public healthcare/education. Like the Scandinavian countries. The "all people would be made equal" is just a right wing strawman. A doctor would still earn 4, or 5 times as much as a janitor.
What's the latest update on that place you got dismissed from
Will make a video soon, my semester isn't over, they placed me in another location.
when are you gonna upload next?
The funny thing is the society we live in now is not capitalist at all. The only demographic who are net taxes payer are men and the vast majority of the beneficiary are women.
Women also get prioritise in every aspect of scocite now a days. They get better treatment in school that are gear for them, grant and a lot of help to pay for higher education, first pick to get a job, ect ect.
If the government juste stop paying women for simply existing I am convinced that most of these probleme would be gone, but that will not happen because women are a very big voting block are easily swayed by a nice looking politician who promise them gibz
So inflation will continue, the nany stat will get more power and men will be cuck by the government more and more.
I feel like the 2022 version of BP is the most brootal one, but it offers a long term solution for the society as a whole. Call it a necessary genocide without the actual killing part. One other way the great BP problem could be solved in the future is by introducing our bodies to experimentation through Chrisper Tech, therefore ensuring that people will produce only Chad and Stacy from a certain point in time. The both scenarios lead to the same result, the only difference is, one is low-tech (traditional in a sense) and one is inherently high - tech ( poses various threats and problems linked to massively altering human population through manipulation of our genome).
I kinda think average men might as well just go after stacie’s in today’s society. Most stacie’s are dating down because cads are taken by Becky’s.
I think if you’re just at least attractive enough for Stacy to at least still find you attractive that’s all that matters but that won’t happen if you’re sub 5.
cope
@@Kpop_stole_foids_fromcurrycell It was a joke honestly, but it’s kinda true if you think about it because alot of stacies are dating average men who make alot of money.
We could achieve all the same shit by just removing all the pro-women welfare that we have to pay for. I'm talking quotas, female only scholarships, jobs, positions, welfare etc.
This alone would introduce the need for the social contract again. This won't happen but it is better than THIS SHIT.
its over