"Society Is Castrating Men!" - Weak Men, Corruption, War, Woke BS & Joe Rogan | Jordan Peterson
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In today’s episode of Impact Theory, Jordan Peterson and I dive deep into the intricacies of identity, responsibility, and the societal forces at play as we explore profound questions about life, purpose, and human transformation, while also addressing the urgent issues facing society today.
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is a clinical psychologist, author, and thought leader, navigating the complex layers of thought, emotion, and spirit that compose the human condition.
Our conversation also covers the alarming rise of weak men and corruption, highlighting the societal consequences of abandoning traditional masculine virtues, the cultural castration of men, the challenges of conveying wisdom through religious narratives, and the dynamic between genuine religious pursuit and exploitation for tyrannical ends.
We also touch on:
- The impact of peer groups on identity
- The importance of confronting personal challenges
- Social media's role in societal transformation
- Personal responsibility and the pursuit of meaning
- Cultural castration of men
- Human suffering and wrestling with existential questions
- Victimhood narratives and moral superiority
From understanding the power of religious and philosophical insights to grappling with the potential for totalitarianism, this conversation will take you on a journey through the complexities of human psychology, ideology, and the search for meaning.
Don't miss this chance to confront your beliefs, fears, and moral compass!
CHAPTER MARKERS:
[0:00] Toxic masculinity & lack of responsibility
[40:16] Rise of weak men & corruption
[1:07:06] They’re stealing your life
[1:28:55] How to get ahead in life
POWERFUL QUOTES FROM Jordan Peterson:
“If something’s valuable you will make sacrifices to attain it [...] we could let go of something we value in the present, we would gain something we value even more in the future”
“It’s harsh that the rewards of life are indiscriminately distributed, it's hard on everyone, but it doesn’t help to become bitter.”
“Are you a rebel because you can’t fit in or are you a rebel because you could fit in but you see a better way?”
“You’re always looking for ‘no’ because you can only say ‘yes’ to a limited number of things.”
“And so the world of images is going to have the same networked structure as the world of words that the LLMs have modeled. Soon the LLms will be able to model the world of images and soon they'll be able to lay them on top of one another."
"...everything you give away, you'll get back if you give it away in the right spirit."
"You give more than you're called upon to give, even to your enemies. Why? Because there is no better strategy than that by any stretch of the imagination…How could you possibly put anything in a more solid bank than in the goodwill you generated in the embodied imaginations of other people? That's the kingdom."
"One of the things that you do do in therapy is you notice where there's disjunctions between the way people describe themselves and the way they act."
"We've been talking to kids about rights, and we really should be talking to them about responsibility and what you owe the world instead of what the world owes you."
"Your rights are my responsibilities and vice versa."
"We derive a certain amount of satisfaction from past accomplishments and generally in proportion to their difficulty."
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Seems to me men are also being taught they are victims and need to embrace their rage and get ready to take up arms to defend themselves.
@@CMA418 no worries the future would be filled with old women with 4 cats and 2 birds and can take lots of selfies on Facebook and tix Tok
@@AngelGonzalez-fd2qs I wouldn't bet on it. Uneducated people are more likely to reproduce.
@@CMA418of course….especially if you believe that there is an organized effort to destabilize society..
maybe for next time.. here are some books.. where mostly woman talk about mens opression.. decads ago
Esther Vilar
Elisabeth Lenz
Monika Maron
Barbara Stäheli
Wolfgang Streeck
Thilo Sarrazin
Uwe Tellkamp
Dear Tom and team,
Please clearly mark re-uploads as re-uploads. There's nothing wrong with them, but they need to be clearly marked for the sake of your audience's time. Let us make the choice up front.
Thanks.
its part of the grift yo
Exactly!
Really you so obsessed about your time?
I feel for your ex girlfriends
People, remember. A comment always says more about yourself, than it does about the person or thing you're commenting on . @@HopelessAutistic
@HopelessAutistic thank god I don't have children with them 🙏 my time is priceless and I'll be dammed if I'm co parenting with them. Greatest lesson I've learned through experience and from these modern day philosophers is women have had tight wraps kept on them for a reason. Look at the sexual revolution we're seeing the effects of now. Women making billions of dollars of the souls of men and our future by showing skin because of lust, pride, and greed. The US is DOOMED.
Re-uploads really need to be marked as such. At this point I can be never sure when your new video is a new one or an older one.
Tom B is shady AF. No one gets a billion dollars without selling out
I like it. He clipped in 2 interviews is all.
Omg a creator that's puts out free videos on this free platform called CZcams reposted a free video that you can choose to watch or not watch 😅
Shut up nerd! Just listen to it, or don’t, stop complaining and shut up.
Yes but I would like to know it from the description at least. Seems fair to me.
While everyone moans about Peterson in the comments section being either too hard or soft, I just want to express my gratitude to him for holding the line on freedom of expression and gender-based traditions.
Peterson is definitely too soft but he's a great man and a great mind that has opened my eyes to a lot of things I didn't see before for which I'm eternally grateful.
He's blocking everyone on Twitter.. He's fragile.
He's always talking about being tough and strong, but he's talking about what he really want to be.
I’m very thankful for Peterson
@@-MohammedAhmed he never says "be exactly like me, I'm perfect." He is offering a vision for a better future that he also strives for himself...discounting it because he is not the actual Messiah seems pretty shortsighted.
The failures of capitalism and the failures of patriarchy are being revealed to an increasingly larger slice of the world population, ergo people are revolting against both. While capitalism makes the traditional family unit economically impossible for a majority of people, patriarchy makes it a total scam for women while solely benefiting men. So there are two forces at work: First, the global revolt against capitalism and its siblings imperialism and colonialism; viz. the worldwide fight to liberate Palestine from the Zionist terror state and the U.S. empire and the rapid de-dollarization of the world economy and the rise of BRICS.
Second, women evolving many times faster than men and realizing that heterosexual partnerships with men are a net loss for women by all metrics: lifespan, health, wellbeing, and financial. Marriage solely benefits men. Men enjoy longer life, better health outcomes, huge increases in income and social capital, as well as things like "the fatherhood bonus" when they also have children. Women in turn live shorter lives, have more chronic health conditions, worse mental health, higher stress levels, cite higher levels of dissatisfaction in life, and suffer massive losses to their lifetime income and financial wellbeing from which they never recover. That's to say nothing of the detriment to their health and risks to their lives of bearing and raising children.
Even in two-income households, the majority of the domestic labor still falls on women. Add on 100% of the mental and emotional labor, and women have figured out that in most cases marriage and children is a scam. That's why single, childfree women are statistically the happiest and longest-living demographic in the world at the same time there is a population decline and male loneliness epidemic.
Women have been demanding for decades that men step up and be better partners. Instead, men choose to become increasingly violent, destructive, harmful, vindictive, untrustworthy and toxic to be around. Do the math. It's either evolve or go extinct. Good men who show up in their relationships as real partners will never have a problem finding good women to partner with. The rest of them will simply die off, like all species eventually do.
When I was a teen in a farming community...everyone worked. We owned a small grocery store that had groceries, a bakery, butcher shop, frozen foods and produce. All the normal products..just in a smallish store. I worked there starting at age twelve. I didn't work for free, as my father regularly informed me, I was getting room and board. If I wanted to earn money, I had to get up early in the summer, go out to the fields and either hoe beans or detassel corn. I picked detassling corn. It was seriously hard work..but it put cash in my pocket. I worked from sun-up, till 7:30 or so, went home, showered, and then went to the store to work a full day. Prior to working at the stores, I had a paper route...Minnesota weather...This kind of life was so common, you couldn't really complain (though we did..haha)...everyone was working.
When I was sixteen, I could order for every department, run the bakery and less-so the butcher shop...handle all produce/groceries/frozen foods, schedule workers and do the books.
My father died at 39 of a cerebral hemorrhage. We got the call around 9AM that he died at the golf course.
I stayed, and had my next younger brother stay and work with me. I knew that even though Dad was dead, we still needed everything to keep going...the family needed money.
I went on to build my own electronic business that grew to 3500 employees, built a couple of other companies.
Never say "that's not my job". Always work for the money you agreed to accept when you took the job. If you're unhappy at your job, develop skills that will make you more useful somewhere else, for more money and job satisfaction. Best of luck, and by luck, I mean those things that you can do to create opportunity for yourself.
Well said! I worry about this sometimes with my son. I grew up similarly to the way you describe, but my son doesn't get that experience because of the direction I went with a career. I'm trying to expose him to hard work but it doesn't seem to connect in the same way. I look around at most people I know and none of them seem to know what hard work really is.
@@nickh.9816 I could provide anything my kids wanted. I refused. For example, I told them at age twelve, that if they wanted a car at age sixteen, they were going to need to get a job when they could qualify for one, and save their money. I did make the concession that I would match whatever they saved. If they saved zero, there would be no car, etc. I made that concession solely because it was more difficult for them to work until age fourteen. My kids weeded the sidewalks and driveway...they cleaned the pool...they were taught how to fix ailing appliances rather than me just shelling out the cash. I did whatever I could to make them understand that unlike their friends...they weren't getting a free-ride just for being born lucky. But that they in fact, were the lucky ones because they were going to build life-long character. It worked. They are both successful in their chosen fields.
@RickMcCargar yes I agree with you 100%. I'm getting there. Lol. I'm the same way, though. I just meant that, rather, my son hasn't had the same exposure to working with his hands. My dad owned businesses, and my brother and I started working in a welding shop from an early age. Gave us a lot of experience and taught us to work hard. But what we are doing with my son is having him rebuild an old truck that my dad graciously gave to him. That will be his first vehicle. He's 15 now so he's been working hard and learning how to work with his hands.
You have a great lesson in the story. Yet this is what’s called seining the pendulum too far one way….. trauma embedded I. Your sorry. Can you not see that?
@@ssing7113 my life is what it is. Good and bad. Sorry if it was too complicated for you. The point of the trauma, that seems to have been missed by you, is that the character building work done prior to my father's death, made my response to it, not only possible, but likely.
What women want? Dont care, what do i want? That's the cure for men these dark days.
Tom, what's up with the re uploaded content?
Maximizing clicks and revenues.
What’s up with a “man” complaining to another man ?
Men fix. Solve. Sort. If you have an issue with this then go work for Tim and do something about it!
it is worth re-watching ..just don't get why it is not MARKED AS REPOST
Cause its important. Dear.
What a sharp verbal man Jordan is. It's amazing hearing him.
Ignore the people crying about re uploads we needed to hear this again either way
so… women like beasts? Then why did all the media lie to me to be a nice civilized guy?
Jordan Peterson is an angel who has a sheathed sword.
I love the way the videos jumps straight into the topic without any waffle.
What in the world took so long for Jordan Peterson to catch on to the fact that MGTW is very needed in todays society ?
We need to restore genuine rites of passage for boys transitioning into men, rather than blaming them for not figuring it all out on their own.
So true. I woke up thinking that exact thought. Then I opened CZcams and found this video in my feed LOL
What are these "genuine rites of passage"?
When was the last time boys in the west had rites of passage? What are some examples of that?
Used to be what fathers were for
Getting eagle scout status?
I love Jordan Pederson's straight-forward and intellectual take on everything. Going to buy his book. Thank you Tom for interviewing and sharing! 🎉
This was one of Jordan’s most interesting conversations because in areas it felt personal. It’s easy to be driven insane from the overbearing weight of fame.
Re-upload?
- Wouldn’t be surprising if it was.
Sadly yes another re-upload
Lisa’s channel does it too… but I know Toms followers don’t care for Lisa
Yeh I wonder myself. No chapter lists
Get ANGRY! Anger doesn't have to be violence. Anger is ACTION and CHANGE!
Anger doesn’t have to be violence, but historically, it turns into that…and it’s ALWAYS “justified”, at least in the minds of those committing violence.
We all have to die, but we have a choice whether or not to become killers. The left has been preaching victim status for a while, not the right is using that same tactic.
Let me call the three letter agencies for a potential terrorist sightings in the comments
@@HopelessAutistic Yet anger often turns to violence, and occasionally, storming of government buildings.
Peterson is a volcano of repressed anger.
@@60-second-HACKS repression of valid anger is why we are in the damn mess.
I'm 47yrs old. $73,000 biweekly and I'm retired, this video have inspired me greatly in many ways that I remember my past of how I struggled with many things in life to be where I am today!!!!❤️
How did you do it? Do explain please 😯
My family have been into series of sufferings lately
Christina Ann Tucker is to be thanked. I got my self my dream house 🏠 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through her. Christine A. Tucker is the kind of person one needs in his or her life!
Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Christina Ann Tucker.
I do know Christina A. Tucker, I also have even become successful....
How do I get connection to this woman you speak about!!?
Just a theory, but maybe this is all because we have the beta’s running the world these days, and to keep powerful, they can’t allow the alphas near them, THUS they need all men to be as weak as possible? 😊
Jocelyn:
A flower is only as good as its petals. Don't you think?
William:
A flower is good for nothing.
Jocelyn:
Really?
William:
You can't eat a flower, a flower can't keep your warm...
Jocelyn:
And a rose never knocked a man off a horse either.
William:
You're just a silly girl, aren't you?
Jocelyn:
Better a silly girl with a flower, than a silly boy with a horse and a stick... [walks away]
Thumbs down for unidentified repost. The video in itself is great but it should be stated that it is a repost or at least present the date of the actual interview. Tom, you always say that you strive to be better but this calls you out. And its very VERY easy to do better than what you did with this case/upload.
Encourage men especially the under 35s. Sadly they often are surprised. You can see their natural calm leadership abilities if ya look.
Jordan is 100% correct about Society/Men, some will admit it and some will not...but we ALL know it.
Uh...no we all don't. DId you know that when AI was given the task to try to distinguish a male brain from a female brain - these were the results - 25% male, 25% female and 50% could go either way - the AI could not distinguish
@@user-xu6bv7yh2j Too bad we're not talking about AI...
@@user-xu6bv7yh2jGet lost then and go somewhere else. You’re a troll in these comments and nobody cares about your toxic opinions
@@mboiko lol - we rely more on AI every day - I bet you are older
Stop being a bot.
Manic jordan peterson has always been my favorite. Hes at his best when we stops caring
It struck me yesterday that most of the humans that have existed were in a state of surviving, if they weren't killed off young. We are so fortunate to live in a time (also depending where you live) where we have the luxury to try and become our best possible selves. It seems that we should not squander such an opportunity. I will remind myself of this daily.
Speak for yourself since childhood all a majority of men know is survival. You as a woman have the privileges of that being able to pick and choose what to do. Wild take .
@@D9xAbstract Can you explain further please? I haven't found that being female has given me any advantage in any aspect of my life.
5 min in 100% truth, might not agree with Jordans diet advice but Fucking preach sir.
@@justinmininger5973 You like being told you are the victim because then your loser life isn’t your fault but the fault of women and the left. You know it isn’t true. You just like absolving yourself of personal responsibility over your lazy, uneducated waste of a human life. In truth, you deserve the life that you have. It isn’t anyone’s fault but your own. You know this is true. If you deserved love and happiness, you would already have them. But you don’t deserve them, and never will have them.
he doesn't give diet advice.
Poor Jordan, man. I don't listen to him nearly at all and never have, but it sucks to see someone so innocuous and clearly well-intentioned be treated so poorly.
Exactly what happens, he was thrusted into the public with a social challenge to state mandated speech debate and he was tagged with a racist/bigot label that made millions not listen to his genius and ability to heal one’s soul. He makes the simplistic complicated and the complicated simple. He should be on Mount Rushmore for mental health and it will be too late for him to see it unfortunately but he should rest knowing he matters a lot
@@rlperez4 Hehe, like I said, he's not my cup of tea. But - I think history will look upon him favorably. Everything considered, he's been incredible. What are the chances that that first video would lead to all this? That such a deserving person be thrust into the spotlight, vs others?
Guess it kinda shows that if you stand up for your values, good things can happen. Sounds very JP.
"Give em hell" jp tweet to netan yahu.
Obvious who owns him since joining the daily wire..
@@dave9547that’s right. This is why I stopped listening to him.
@@dave9547 Obvious who owns you.
Aim up and tell the truth # getting rushed by his talk on truth and feeling his energy. What would happen if men practiced telling the truth to women instead of avoiding the pain.
@@frances4773 rest assured, none of the men got that from this. Did you read the comments from men? They want women not to have rights anymore....that is all they took from this video.
I remember my first evening at a camp out for my small Christian high school.
The girls sat around talking and getting to know each other and watching the boys, while the boys held a wrestling tournament to figure out their pecking order.
Rough and tumble play is a primary school development trait
@@Asis4God inform the MMA guys, lol!
@@HeartFireSessions lol
Wrestling or physical strength does not decide the ultimate pecking order in men. But as Jordan points out many times, play is crucial for socialising in men. Wrestling and activities like that fulfill that role.
@@NatrajChaturvedi Right, it's more like confidence and charm.
I agree with him most of the time, but my experience is that people who were terribly abused become horrible abusers, manipulators, liars, cheats, emotionally stunted and stuck in the age range of when they were abused.
Early childhood trauma (ACES) have a huge bearing on relationships. Period. To not address this is huge. As Dr Mate would say, “The question is not why the addiction, but why the pain.”
I think you should look at DNA
Not a fan of re upload Tom. Do better
This has been going on for quite a while. Women have been deceived. Thank God for giving us wisdom that the world cannot override.
if the world can't override your wisdom, you can't learn.
Religion: “You will believe…or else”
I think the "else" is already on full display. Y'all literally losing yer minds and dying of extinction.@@CMA418
@@hyperteleXii Pretty sure genocide doesn't count as "dying of extinction".
They be trying
36:47 I'll risk sounding pretentious but i'm the white sheep of the family. I used to be just like them (drugs, arrests, social services, no goals) but then I cut off my family for about 7 years until I learned enough about myself and humanity to recognize that family is so important that even flawed family members can provide us with love that will make us better. 10 years ago i returned to my family and began spending more time with them. I found that my happiness and contentment actually slowly changed them for the better. I moved my aging mom in with me and i decided i would greet her with a hug and smile each time i saw her. There was more than that but over time she became less negative. Same with my sisters. I truly did make my family better by improving myself.
WEF
“Don’t fall prey to the temptation to make your good subordinate to your pride” “Do your good in silence.”
Profound statement many layers deep. I don’t agree with or understand everything but the man can say some good stuff often enough
Women want a gentle warrior.
Thay want slaves to work for them, feed them, bath them, attend them, etc....they will get the opposite....This is called nature when men live and women abhor.
Sometimes ;)
WOMEN want all kinds of things and all kinds of people - these massive generalizations only help men
Women’s wants change almost as frequently as the hour of the day
@@onward2727ur a day
This is super eye opening. The epidemic of demasculinizing was very well explained.
As with any natural system, when pressure (irrational behavior) is imposed against the system there are unintended consequences. Funny many of us understand the consequences. It wont be good for non-men.
What is a non man? lol - as if you get to say - pathetic
Cancel time. You hire people who do what to babies?
Many great intellectuals in this age of social media and internet but Jordan Peterson is the one who articulates things in a way that really hits the mark with me.
How incredibly important is it to have this conversation more consistently, and in more venues?
VERY Important!
#2Genders
Cultures and sub cultures are a decent alternative in melting pots.
Jordan Peterson has done it again, and shoved me into a rabbit hole of inquiry without me knowing. I can see now that this will take several days for me to follow up on.
This podcast is One Hour and 54 minutes. It’s already been an hour for me and I’m only at 30 minutes right now.
To get the most out of this podcast, I have had to stop, replay, notate, play and rewind multiple times.
This is not one of those episodes where I can just passively listen to, like white noise in the background.
To really get the most out of this podcast is to listen intently; understand and comprehend; then follow up with further inquiry.
Incredibly rich and relevant. 😎📚
Praise the timestamps guy.
Ok hear me out:
Death metal concept album. Only vocals are Peterson samples.
"Man machine hybrid"
"Genitals on a stick"
"Brutal brutal"
Imagine it in your mind. It's fucking perfect.
Stop smoking pot and go clean your room😂
Dear Dr., you in transition celebrate your brokenness. We still see your value having experienced brokenness yourselves.
Rally behind this brilliant man..hes been there for us all ...
Nobody is weaker than Dr. Peterson
He cries about being made fun of by anonymous accounts on Twitter
seems like your projecting
@@societyrunsbackwards1059 Using big words (for you) out of panic shouldn't be a long term habit you keep for yourself (and your over self-medicating tendencies).
Jesus is the way im in Iraq
Yes brother the only way
Prayers for protection for you brother!
Grateful for Jordan Peterson. He has given voice to many and bettered more lives than he knows.
90% of what Tate says scares you because "it IS toxic masculinity..." 😂
That comment by Tom made me lose 90% respect for him. He looked so weak saying that. Brutal honesty is toxic when it comes to women?? Lol wow.
Tom is part of the problem , men who don't want to call women out on their bullshit are part of the problem.
Red pill guys are simply reacting to how things are and what women want which is money and men with status PERIOD.
Tom admitted himself what drives him is simply so he can impress his wife so he lives by this toxic code himself!!!
@@Betterlaylow1 Yep, I couldn't have said it better.
@@Betterlaylow1 ya i like him but you can tell hes torn between the cuck destiny view point and reality....
Yes and there’s a lot of real pieces of work in the comment section here. Never heard such bunch of sputtering man haters
@@Betterlaylow1 No Tate is just a loser psycho, cool glasses Chad.
Men need to stop caring about what women want
didn't I just see thins a couple of weeks ago?
1:30:35 I agree with Dr.Peterson that both are needed. I do not believe that children’s rights have been fully recognized yet in society
Egos have gotten a lot of men killed and incarcerated!
The man is so profund it makes me so happy to witness such glorious coherence and deepness! Truly a professor
Edited version re upload
i agree he should have listed it not as new but he did clearly state we all need more JBP and we do..
44:37 JP doesn’t agree to limited mindset ideas and ideologies. Lots of people don’t like that. But that’s what masculinity does. It doesn’t allow harmful lies and ideas to go without confronting them. This is what NEEDS to happen. Change is painful and it’s going to be painful to let bad ideas die.
which would be perfect if it weren't for the fact that we have a lizard brain programmed to avoid pain at any cost, even if it causes the destruction of oneself and all of Creation, and in the vast majority of human beings those impulses can only be channeled , do not ignore
Peterson has had a tremendous impact in my life! I have totally changed the way I look at reality and life! Thank you JP & keep going!
He is a national treasure.
He is a national joke
Something is going on these last couple of years in my jobs recently never seen so much disrespect and hatred towards men with the working women it's very strange and the females are so aggressive as well angry acting tough as well like they controlling a prison very strange times some of them even built like NFL linebackers
If only we could go back to when men were in charge and could harass women freely.
Every show they watch teaches them this. They're trained to act this way. And no one has the balls to tell them to shut the fuck up.
I told a female colleague of mine "shut up" jokingly and with a smile because I saw her roll her eyes. We were close enough where she took it as a joke and I could tell, but my manager was caught so off guard by this that he almost fell out of his chair.
Now imagine what would have happened if I had told her to stfu. lol
@@xokelis0015 Had it been 1950(when America was great) she wouldn’t have never spoken in the first place.
@@CMA418
Good. Women don't belong in the work place.
Jokes aside, I think we need to rethink how women integrate into the workplace with men, because they have power over men (especially good looking women) so they are able to manipulate their way into things that men cannot. So perhaps a rule could be no makeup, or dress that reveals too much so as to even the playing field.
Another thing that we need to come through is if women will have the power to vote, they also need to share in the responsibility of defense, so either they join the selective service or they should not be allowed to vote. I say this as a man who wishes women could be more responsible, but time and again I see women all around me avoid responsibility at all cost. Lie and manipulate to do so, and men buy it because they wanna bang them. Its a sad state of affairs we're living in. Also, I belive women voting is what got us the woke mind virus. They're too easy to emotionally manipulate by cunning socialists.
@@CMA418 well at that time more American familys were together with all races and more sons with fathers in the household to teach them how to be a man , 85 percent divorce rates since then and children growing up without both parents 👍
So glad to see Dr. Jordan Peterson on here. I don't see how people can hate this man.
@@NattyGymBro nobody hates him.
There are many people who don't know how to pronounce belle delphine...I don't believe Tom is genuinely one of them lmfao
Good people absolutely adore you Jordan. I know I do. ❤
@@jessicapadgett7345 He panders to the hopeless idiots and losers of the world. They are the ones who love him. He champions stupidity and weakness. That is why you like him.
And smart, reasonable, responsible people
As a woman, Tate Andrews has ZERO sex appeal to me whatsoever. But there are people insecure and codependent enough to fall for the dark triad types.
Well said
Who’s Tate Andrews?
The singer Sting would probably a say littel poem or note, or something simple, simplistically romantic but from his heart....the way he feels it at the moment.
its a natural way of apptroaching people, but some mena re not taught
a simpliciyt in romantic way.
you can be masculine and romantic at the same as Sting or other these figures....hold hand of a baby etc.
I blame absent fathers for weak men
Since the 1950s the Federal government has been chasing men away from their families for the women to receive food and housing.
I blame the mothers. You cant blame somebody who isnt there. Its like me blaming you for bank robbery you never did.
@@atomicgeisha I have since changed my mind on what I wrote. I blame no one. This was the experience that we both had to go through to become and complete our purpose in this life. You can not control anyone but yourself.
I love these chrystal clear analytical brains. Listening to this is mentally healing.
Is there a double standard in Peterson mockingly ridiculing of the extreme, feminine left, but in regards to Andrew Tate saying “people are complicated” and calmly and rationally denouncing his capitalising of female sexuality?
@@GlowGlobe Everything Peterson says is nonsense. Only the most pathetic losers and morons think there is any value in the nonsense that Peterson spews out of his mouth. He is just a fraud appealing to the hopeless.
If we had more examples of positive masculinity we wouldn't need to use tate as the best example
it's not a double standard because extreme feminism and toxic redpill BS are not of equivalent value. extreme feminism is far more useless, especially in 2024. maybe in 1800 i'd be a feminist too, but you gotta get with the times.
I dont see the connection.
In the first case its a movement with unimaginable power and reach, wich have existed in a long time, and the damage it has done is clear to see for everyone.
In the latter its one person who gained internet notoririty debating with people from the above mentioned movement.
Why would that be hypocritical?
For the non simple-minded, the distinction is clear. One is a political movement, the other is a human being.
END THE FED. Gold IS money.
Gold is fiat currency because it's rare and doesn't corrode or decay. It's hardly used for anything besides jewelry....a tiny bit in high technology.
Lol. AI bot comment from right wing gold merchant
Mr Peterson you are our hero.❤
This feels like an reupload to me, checked the description and there is no mention whether this is reupload or not. 😅 Any idea when this episode was first uploaded?
Tom at least put this kind of info in description, for your audience. This is very misleading and I hope this does not become a regular practice
everything in life is a balance of good and evil
We should learn how to defend ourselves spiritually because that cycle doesn’t end. It’s part of our experience.
I love how Jordan Peterson isn’t afraid to show emotion! It’s just so refreshing to see such a powerful Man be voluntarily vulnerable.
But it is selective vulnerability.
Men showing emotion is unattractive for the most part. Also it quickly wears out it's welcome when it becomes a habit.
lmao
@@xokelis0015it’s interesting that when you talk to old women in carehomes, they often say „I wish my husband would have opened up more, shared more, been closer to me emotionally.“
@@idrilain1
Since when do women know what they want. Half the time they're bouncing from emotion to emotion, the other half they're avoiding responsibility for their actions. Adult children. That's teh moden woman.
I have 4 sons between 15 and 23. Couldn’t agree more.
Be a monster. Then learn how to control it.
I'm 33 and remember when all the woke stuff started to take over the left in 2012. I was in rave community so I seen I go from true freedom and debate over ideas to dogma and hate. I left shorty after and now I'm right wing cuase being a libertarian is no longer left.
The world needs Jordan Peterson
Is this an old interview?
yep
Love Tom's videos as of late but can't get thru another rambling for JP....something broke JPs brain. It's really broken people. I've seen enough of his ramblings to know this one will be no different. He's just going to sit there and spit out a word salad without ever actually making the connections between the things he's going to harp on. His take on masculinity as previewed in the first few seconds is my example...I can teach my son to point and shoot while also teaching him to use reasoning on when to unleash or reign in his emotions. It's not that all masculinity is toxic, it's that there are forms of bad behavior attributed to men that we should tamp down on in civil society. Yes I know my boy wants to jump and play all day but I need my boy to sit and listen when he's in a classroom because I want him to value a d extract as much value as possible from his education. This isn't toxic masculinity, it's not feminism
Jordan Peterson, Your work will change the world for good. You are not alone here with a big Heart but a little broken. My goal is the same as Yours (for humanity and not against humanity). The only difference is that you talk, and I don't. Thanks for everything TOM!!!
Why not blame the WOMEN for their CHOICES in being tempted by MONEY and ATTENTION rather than blame Andrew Tate for capitalizing on their weakness? HOLD WOMEN ACCOUNTABLE!
Because capitalizing on another person’s weakness has no moral integrity
@@electric4224right. Both sides can be problematic… I’m not sure why accountability is seemingly framed as one side or another here.
Andrew Tate has a sex appeal?! Wtf did I just hear 😵💫
Of course he does...so much so, he convinced a bunch of girls he'd love them if theyd do some sex work for him...
You deny it? All the beautiful women around him is just a scam? Of course he has this short term - confident - successful bad guy appeal.
@@petal9547 Having money and being charismatic does not equal having a sex appeal.
@@ania1418you forgot being in shape and being successful in a tough sport like MMA. What's having sex appeal for you?
@@petal9547 Being physically attractive. And he is not that even though is fit ;p That's why he's wearing those sunglasses and grows beard.
THIS! ❤ GREAT ONE. SO ON POINT.
Blaming andrew tate for using men is like blaming onlyfans models,its their father's fault for raising them that way.
Really? They bare no personal responsibility. We are all just the absolute product of how we were raised? Foolishness.
3:04 Please do not speak for all women. We do not all hold these ideologies to the extremes that you are talking about.
@@Asis4God No one holds these ideologies. Peterson is an idiot making up nonsense that isn’t real to pander to lost idiots.
Jordan needs to relearn how to have a conversation. Listening is in many ways more important than speaking.
YOU need to listen
I think Jordan Peterson's pain is for us😢. We love you Jordan
I do agree, that we all need to be the best that we can possibly be.
Female researcher/teacher who has a 21 yr old son is so grateful for Peterson intelligence shared ! His Works are going to be foundational and evolution as the famous men he bases his work from. I am trying to be a women that supports the men in my life without being misguided with the noise. Thx!
May G-d bless you, Ma'am
Wow, awesome to hear❤
Important to remember Peterson is a blind squirrel. “Make your bed” is not an original or even profound sentiment.
And for someone who says, “Be precise with your speech”(also not an original idea, read The Four Agreements), he frequently engages in facetiousness, sarcasm and hyperbole, all of which involve saying things one doesn’t actually mean.
In a debate he said, “you’re not transparent to yourself” as if that doesn’t apply to him.
I am listening Ester Vilar book Manipulated man. What an eye opener 🫣
@@CMA418 No, he said all those things explicitly stating that it applies to him. He has on more than one occasion expressed exactly that sentiment. Your interpretation of it comes more from your own bias and resentment than from him.
Jordan Peterson is the voice for people who don't have knowledge of Self and can't think for themselves critically.
A plus for this one Tommy...good content.
I did not see the original of this content so thanks for the edit.
Tate has no sex appeal, have you ever heard 1 woman say she's attracted to him?
You do know hes being convicted of manipulating a bunch of girl's into doing sex work for him using the "lover boy method" youre saying hes innocent of that crime by denying he has no sex appeal...
Lmao yes multiple including his brother Tristan lmao. U got some news for you… girls like tall strong successful men that are ambitious. Shocking right? 😂 you must be a wokey. Or blue pill.
Yes, many times. His image is damaged now after all the bad press like this same podcast. Now it doesn't count what they say.
A topic rarely discussed is the over sexualization of men. Women of course have been the object yet we never talk about how males are conditioned to place their focus on the object. Just like females when brought up are encouraged to be modest men are never encouraged in the same way.
Men need to get back in touch with their primary role as protector. The only avenue to earn this honor is the control of his sexuality and his "monster" as Jordan has often astutely discussed. On the suface watching adults have sex seems harmless but it really tampers with a mans inate power and birthright. Men should not be thinking about sex as much as they do. They should instead be consumed with protection of their tribe. Easy sex has weakened men...its watered down their power. I think the unsung victim of the "sexual revolution" has been men.
Most people are having less sex men and women so easy sex isnt real.
@@hallowakers3d2y true. I'm referring to Gen X and before. Now we have a different problem because of Only Fans etc...
Dr. Peterson is awesome. And the interviewer is the best I’ve ever seen.
where's the rest of the first interview?? it was so good
Humility and integrity is what makes Jordan more than worthy of every piece of good that comes his way. The haters are literally crazy. You can’t rationalize the irrational. And his haters are beyond irrational.
Anger destroys the vessel that contains it
@@butteschool Peterson wants men to be angry idiots with a victim complex. He makes much more money that way.
How many beers deep this morning?
Yep it sure destroyed Jordan Peterson
@@Zayden. Hey Wokie JP has never been more popular - Over 8 million subbers thanks mostly to these kinds of attack on him-Thank you
Only if it is held within, or the other extreme, allowed to explode uncontrollably.
Anger is an energy that must be channeled. Just as a waterfall could be your doom, or it could be channeled through turbines and power your city.
It’s such a shame that someone so pessimistic is worshipped!
pessimistic or realistic?
Appreciate you Dr. Jordan Peterson. 🙏🏽☀️🫡
A Chinese "proverb" says"Holding Anger with someone is like burning down your house to get rid of a rat." Where is the joy in this man’s heart?
He's off his meds
Holding anger is not the same as reaching anger and acting to dissipate it. If watching an atrocity doesn’t anger you, that’s kind of a “moral stain” on yourself; that anger should motivate you to act to either intervene in that action or prevent it from happening in the future. From what I hear him saying, he seems to be encouraging people to harness that anger to act to become better…that’s not holding it and seething with it.
Just an opinion.
You must be off your meds. I hope the estrogen pills arrive soon.
blind and lazy hatred
Sadism