NBA2K24 ADDS a PAID "BATTLE PASS" to Basketball - Angry Rant!

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    WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SPORTS GAME! NBA2K24 NOW ADDS A PAID "BATTLE PASS" to playing BASKETBALL?!?! in a $70? No $100 ALREADY OVER MONETIZED! GAME?! WHEN IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! ARE YOU SERIOUS?! MY ANGRY RANT!
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  • @donnyg9993
    @donnyg9993 Před 10 měsíci +4656

    Gaming industry needs another crash. This stuff is unacceptable

    • @metalvideos1961
      @metalvideos1961 Před 10 měsíci +126

      Crash happened only in the US. never was a problem in Japan/asia or Europe.

    • @Prawnsacrifice
      @Prawnsacrifice Před 10 měsíci +47

      Yeah mate im here in england and im like what are you talking about 😅😅😅

    • @FNA4E
      @FNA4E Před 10 měsíci +37

      @@metalvideos1961 Japan also doesnt do this so should be good if it just happens in US.

    • @ruick78
      @ruick78 Před 10 měsíci +85

      ​@@FNA4Ejapan just make real life pachinko machnies based on games

    •  Před 10 měsíci +25

      Yep. Should happen and maybe it would reborn as something good... Meanwhile indie devs and indie games would become the golden standard of gaming.

  • @shindalah1794
    @shindalah1794 Před 10 měsíci +2109

    The company name "2K" refers to the amount of money they want you to pay for each game they produce.

    • @TheProphegy
      @TheProphegy Před 10 měsíci +72

      Crazy part is I know people who’s spent $3500+ just on Apex or Fortnite alone for every skin that comes out and Battle Pass. $3500+ on a single game for digital skins, it’s an addiction and devs prosper.

    • @Dp_is_Op
      @Dp_is_Op Před 10 měsíci +42

      ​@@TheProphegyI hate those kind of people

    • @TheKotor2309
      @TheKotor2309 Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@Dp_is_Opyou hate people with mental disorders? Brave of you to admit that.

    • @Dp_is_Op
      @Dp_is_Op Před 10 měsíci +24

      @@TheKotor2309 I have a mental disorder so what's your point? I hate both sides

    • @CBonduMiel
      @CBonduMiel Před 10 měsíci

      ​​​@@TheKotor2309i mean they litterally finance bad practise and ask for even more bad practise. If they stopped the industry would be better for it. Its only worse cause they keep buying lol. Someone introduce them to baldur gate 3 or elden ring ffs and make them play it until the end and restart a thousand time over until they 100% the game and then make them look at their time spent in game on steam and at the game's price and let them compare how much time they spent in sport games vs the money it cost them in total with microtransaction, then let it sunk in into their soul how much time and money they wasted on sport games and let them ask for more value from the producing compagnies

  • @spraragen88
    @spraragen88 Před 9 měsíci +143

    Imagine paying $16 for a ticket to see a movie, then having to pay an extra $5 to not sit in the first row, closest to the screen. Then halfway through the movie you have to pay $10 more to keep the lights in the theater off. I mean you still get to watch the movie you paid a ticket for but now there are premiums that make it easier to see the movie.
    That is what EA is doing to their sports games.

    • @BedroomPanic
      @BedroomPanic Před 9 měsíci +23

      NBA 2K is a Take Two (2K Sports game)
      EA at least allows you to play offline mode without paying to build your own player.

    • @Shamanteng
      @Shamanteng Před 9 měsíci +13

      @@BedroomPanic This. It's funny how a lot of gamers don't realize how scummy Take Two is with their games in general, because they hear more about EA or Activision.
      I use to remember the time you could level your player AS YOU WISHED. Now you need to choose a build, be limited or locked in certain skills and pay absurd VC. Even customization lol (like why should you pay VC for a shooting sleeve ???)
      I think the worst offence ought to be the "GTA city" they've implemented.

    • @georgewatkins88
      @georgewatkins88 Před 9 měsíci

      Exactly 💯.

  • @christopherbradford1890
    @christopherbradford1890 Před 10 měsíci +41

    2K breaks my heart. I haven’t purchased NBA2k for FOUR consecutive years now in order to protest the clear monetizing issues. It breaks my heart because several friends complain, but purchase it every year-and j haven’t been playing with them. (I play other games with them) I will say, if it went F2P and then I could just purchase battle passes, I would feel much better about spending money.

    • @Marcus_shawn
      @Marcus_shawn Před 8 měsíci +1

      This 2k takes the cake...$50 for vc just to get your player from a 60 to a 75....the hell😐

  • @rikou1986
    @rikou1986 Před 10 měsíci +785

    I'm damn tired of developers putting sports in my gambling games.

    • @asundelgun3487
      @asundelgun3487 Před 10 měsíci +59

      "Surprise mechanics"

    • @nlaszg
      @nlaszg Před 10 měsíci +5

      Lmao

    • @smasher.338
      @smasher.338 Před 10 měsíci +6

      If i wanted a challenge, and to test my skill, i wouldn't be paying all this money to win!! Get it together ea! I shouldn't even be put into games, i should go from the lobby right to the win screen!

    • @michaelmonstar4276
      @michaelmonstar4276 Před 10 měsíci

      @@asundelgun3487 Surprise balls in your face.

    • @TheKcXiV
      @TheKcXiV Před 10 měsíci

      The fucking people that buy the game allow them to keep doing it. People as much as they say they hate it, actually love shit like that because every game is now doing it.

  • @michaeltaylor9270
    @michaeltaylor9270 Před 10 měsíci +655

    It’s sad that they are marketing Kobe after his passing just like EA did with Madden….the greed is overwhelming.

    • @Rickkysimo
      @Rickkysimo Před 10 měsíci +1

      Especially cause one of them is a rapist

    • @colekinneman
      @colekinneman Před 10 měsíci +70

      Twice now..

    • @matta2738
      @matta2738 Před 10 měsíci +38

      Im sure the families don't mind as long as the royalties keep coming in

    • @mysticstrikeforce5957
      @mysticstrikeforce5957 Před 10 měsíci +1

      yha they been doing this for years its not just a kobe thing

    • @keijijohnson9754
      @keijijohnson9754 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@colekinnemanYeah I was literally just about to say that!

  • @angelshinypirate5268
    @angelshinypirate5268 Před 10 měsíci +37

    I wish another studio would acquire the rights to an NBA game

    • @slayography5089
      @slayography5089 Před 9 měsíci +5

      and then what bro there will be no 2k killer

    • @supermariofan03
      @supermariofan03 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@slayography5089Unless NBA Jam or NBA Street comes back from the grave.

  • @2dumd2live
    @2dumd2live Před 10 měsíci +55

    As long as enough people spend increasingly more money on practices like these, things will only continue to get worse

    • @jordanking7711
      @jordanking7711 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Hit the nail right on the head. And the sad thing is, people are too dumb to see it.

    • @Patrick_1528
      @Patrick_1528 Před 9 měsíci

      @@jordanking7711some dont see it but others do and just dont care and accept it

    • @BrandtKnewale
      @BrandtKnewale Před 8 měsíci +1

      You mean the streamers who pay for all of this stuff and then shill out to their impressionable audience? Because that's exactly what's happening.

  • @freazyknight
    @freazyknight Před 10 měsíci +673

    Battle Pass is killing games for me. It feels like i am playing a job. I stopped playing games that has them or I at least stopped caring about skins and unlocks.

    • @ChaosMarx
      @ChaosMarx Před 10 měsíci +24

      Facts bro

    • @Ridiculousman2nd
      @Ridiculousman2nd Před 10 měsíci +31

      I literally wait for two franchises. Resident evil and final fantasy 7. Other than that i just play ps1 still😂

    • @emma6648
      @emma6648 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Not to mention the god damn FOMO bs, I paid for this game why does the shit go away forever? Even in free games that stupid as hell

    • @Havel_the_Rock420
      @Havel_the_Rock420 Před 10 měsíci +20

      ​@@Ridiculousman2ndsound like me with fromsoft games. Went back and played Dark souls 2 waiting for elden ring dlc. Might get armored core 6.

    • @EvanCops
      @EvanCops Před 10 měsíci +9

      Yup me too, i dont play apex anymore, im sick of em

  • @bradyoung1714
    @bradyoung1714 Před 10 měsíci +758

    2k and EA are a perfect example of why monopolies, even in small markets completely screw everything

    • @crayonaurora2111
      @crayonaurora2111 Před 10 měsíci +15

      Bobby Kotick the real Diablo

    • @DepthFromAbove
      @DepthFromAbove Před 10 měsíci +16

      It doesn’t matter when both options are equally garbage.

    • @Alfredo-lol
      @Alfredo-lol Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@DepthFromAboveWell for soccer video games there’s Supposably some future viable options that wanna compete with EA…..
      We’ll see how that goes

    • @PATRIOTTTT
      @PATRIOTTTT Před 10 měsíci

      No 2k is far ahead of madden EA is ducking garbage I hope everyone in that facility does tmr. They been releasing t the same crap for 10 years…EA is garbage

    • @ElephantTrap
      @ElephantTrap Před 10 měsíci +6

      2k is way worse dude.

  • @MyWifeSally0202
    @MyWifeSally0202 Před 9 měsíci +3

    There’s no “2k fans” there are basketball fans who are forced to play 2k cause of exclusive license

  • @ksmooth241
    @ksmooth241 Před 10 měsíci +43

    This literally was better than any 2k gamer creators thanks Joe 😂 looking out for the little people

  • @ryancarberry2040
    @ryancarberry2040 Před 10 měsíci +345

    "Tomorrow we're playing Madden."
    That made me smile for all the wrong reasons, I am so sorry Joe.

    • @jameshn504
      @jameshn504 Před 10 měsíci +19

      After all the rants and drama he made about Madden every single years he still play it 🙄🙄🙄🙄

    • @cornflakeshumunculus8373
      @cornflakeshumunculus8373 Před 10 měsíci

      @@jameshn504he has to so he can warn others not to buy into this garbage.

    • @YouDonkeyfu
      @YouDonkeyfu Před 10 měsíci +31

      which means it is time for another Madden rant :D

    • @WutTheDeuceGaming
      @WutTheDeuceGaming Před 10 měsíci

      @@jameshn504 he plays it through Xbox Gamepass. He hasn't purchased the game in a very long time.

    • @jacoburbanek5617
      @jacoburbanek5617 Před 10 měsíci +31

      ​@@jameshn504It's almost like the high view counts influence what content he produces 🤯

  • @Gamer_Cafe
    @Gamer_Cafe Před 10 měsíci +590

    Why I love this channel: I don't even think you play 2k like that, yet you're willing to fight a battle that 2k's own community won't even fight.

    • @creepii91
      @creepii91 Před 10 měsíci +60

      Bro, even if you don’t play the game which I do… it’s fucking insulting.

    • @joshido7352
      @joshido7352 Před 10 měsíci

      @@creepii91the community doesn’t give a fuck we know this lol

    • @SamUHells
      @SamUHells Před 10 měsíci +34

      Oh they’ve been fighting this battle for years and it only gets worse every year. 2k is the biggest cash grab in gaming history.

    • @Drogas3653
      @Drogas3653 Před 10 měsíci +13

      @@fudgepacker2858literally ALL the major 2k youtubers have spoken out against 2k and quit years ago. The culture is completely gone at this point. 2k continues to implement new ways to make money so it doesn’t make much of a difference. Not like people will stop buying the game

    • @TheAverageGamer1
      @TheAverageGamer1 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@SamUHells”they’ve been in the battle for years” yet they buy the game every year. Instant loss.

  • @kam2150
    @kam2150 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Worst part is that, it only exists because players will buy it...

  • @DeathQuinox
    @DeathQuinox Před 9 měsíci +3

    A season pass in a full $69.99 game. Believe it or not, people will defend this and will buy the season pass just like normal.

  • @flame9691
    @flame9691 Před 10 měsíci +868

    What’s crazy is that on top of the $70 entry fee and $10 season pass they’ll make you watch ads in the loading screen and slap ads all over the game

    • @stanpoess
      @stanpoess Před 10 měsíci +118

      Plus it's about $120 to make a build just to be an 80ovr

    • @RandomShowerThoughts
      @RandomShowerThoughts Před 10 měsíci +15

      No fking way 🤣🤣

    • @noved317
      @noved317 Před 10 měsíci +8

      And we all gonna buy that vc every single fucking year

    • @rickyrichreacts9667
      @rickyrichreacts9667 Před 10 měsíci +53

      STOP PLAYING ONLINE. Stick to franchise or season mode you fools

    • @bigfrazier86
      @bigfrazier86 Před 10 měsíci

      @@noved317wdym “we” bro? I stopped buying 2k years ago the game is trash every year and I have to throw money at it. Fuck that dude don’t give them another cent unless it’s a good game for once and not hidden behind hundreds of dollars just to play

  • @dhdbling2412
    @dhdbling2412 Před 10 měsíci +829

    As a basketball fan, it’s great to see someone with an audience talk about this. NBA 2K has been predatory since 2K14 after it’s jump to Xbox one and PS4 consoles. Hope he continues to talk about this.

    • @Michael-sb8jf
      @Michael-sb8jf Před 10 měsíci +43

      Sad because NBA 2k11/12 etc were one of the best sports "simulation" type of games

    • @BobbyJenko
      @BobbyJenko Před 10 měsíci +14

      I remember the golden age for the few years before they put in myteam. I even bought the new one every year up until 2020. I finally reached the point in my life where I’m willing to vote with my wallet and not play new versions/roster updates.

    • @deadmentellnotails114
      @deadmentellnotails114 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah uh not just that but the amount of stupidity to do a simple thing you should of done to begin with

    • @TheRealUcanUwill
      @TheRealUcanUwill Před 10 měsíci +4

      To be fair, I still play single player my league mode and love, no need to upgrade, altho game still kacks essential skills like off hand strength or off ball movement. To me, game overall is still good, we NEED to highlight that this monetary garbage is only in those idiot modes like mud, fut myplayer etc. I play sports games gabdsomwly and I never ever loaded a single of those modes

    • @BobbyJenko
      @BobbyJenko Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@TheRealUcanUwill I agree. I just play 2k20 my league when I need my fix lol

  • @iXiuxe717
    @iXiuxe717 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I super appreciate you touching on this subject. They are absolutely criminal with their tactics. It’s so flagrant a grandmother would passively aggrieve them with shame

  • @ABEAZYdaRonin94
    @ABEAZYdaRonin94 Před 9 měsíci +7

    You know something's wrong when even the 2K CZcamsrs/Streamers are complaining about it.

  • @marc-andreriverin2989
    @marc-andreriverin2989 Před 10 měsíci +204

    Every time they say that this new monetization will give 40 additional rewards, that means that they will remove 40 items from the base game to give them as paid rewards

    • @randomguy-randomness
      @randomguy-randomness Před 9 měsíci +3

      Nah they'll add like two cool things and fuck over 100 other things in the process

    • @kallemetsahalme5701
      @kallemetsahalme5701 Před 9 měsíci +1

      not really. the good 1 payment premium games only had a handful of unlockable items. but that was a positive thing. now all games are full of infinite trinkets because they know every item is worth a few cents to someone in a sale. means you can never complete your games fully

  • @yoniel9309
    @yoniel9309 Před 10 měsíci +175

    People allowed this kind of stuff to happen.

    • @mysticstrikeforce5957
      @mysticstrikeforce5957 Před 10 měsíci

      those who has lot of money and not responsible for it.

    • @dewinter1411
      @dewinter1411 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Yep. We asked for it as a community. People buy this shit up and the companies are just putting out stuff they know people will buy. It’s sad.

    • @SpideyfanX
      @SpideyfanX Před 10 měsíci

      Especially Sports Gamers

    • @WutTheDeuceGaming
      @WutTheDeuceGaming Před 10 měsíci

      tbf, the game that started it, Fortnite, has done it fairly and good. All these other games are using it for blatant cash grabs. Most of them have shitty cosmetics and filler in them, while costing too much.
      I dunno if Fortnite's are still good, but back when I played that game the passes had good stuff in them, were fairly priced, and they gave you enough currency to get the next one without spending money.

    • @blowbert9126
      @blowbert9126 Před 10 měsíci +5

      People will still buy this and will defend this game with their lifes. This will make tens of millions for 2K without any issues because of the lack of brainpower for sports game fans.

  • @Cold84
    @Cold84 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I stopped playing sports games years ago, it's sad because that was in my go to games for many years, but the ultimate team as the focus has dramatically dropped the quality of the game, I had bought the newest madden a few years ago and couldn't believe how unresponsive the gameplay felt, probably played it like 5 times and it just doesn't grab me the same way it used to

  • @mitomidou
    @mitomidou Před 10 měsíci +2

    Hi, basketball gamer here from 1994 to 2013. I had to stop due to financial stuff but from the timespan I played different types of bball games (I miss the Looney Tunes Bball game for the SNES), this is the first time I've seen something like this. At the very least, most of the new games that came out every year had roster updates, projected rookies (it predicted Luka Doncic, think it was 2k13) and new features (triple threat, updated post-up and crossover mechanics, chasedown blocks, to say a few) every new release. Crazy that this finally reached bball games.

  • @jdocgaming474
    @jdocgaming474 Před 10 měsíci +292

    The answer to why this continues to not only happen, but is getting worse is: A majority of games/casuals continue to support this practice, thus making companies BILLIONS of dollars per year. It will not stop until people stop spending their money on it. :(

    • @sneakersnake8825
      @sneakersnake8825 Před 10 měsíci

      BUT people are stupid, so here we are.

    • @jaythomas468
      @jaythomas468 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I mean, that is the CORE COMPONENT of it, yes.
      But the other aspect that everyday people don’t realize is that the licensees (the NFL, the NBA, sports/clothing brands like Nike, etc) keep wanting MORE MONEY each time the licenses come back up for renegotiation, which in turn causes the publishers to implement scummier and scummier monetization schemes to try and make it up on the backend.

    • @DaveWraptastic
      @DaveWraptastic Před 10 měsíci +11

      honestly I can't even blame them. I would do this shit too if I knew people still bought it. Well maybe not this outrageous but definitely the pack openings and special editions. The audience is the culprit. STOP BUYING THESE GAMES.

    • @jaythomas468
      @jaythomas468 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@DaveWraptastic
      I honestly DREAM of a day when the collective sports gaming fandom WAKES TF UP from whatever strange trance these publishers got them in thinking they NEED to go out and buy these overpriced pieces of recycled digital shovelware each year just to then be further scammed out of their money at every turn by MTX, thereby sending these publishers into an absolute panic.

    • @Akimbo411
      @Akimbo411 Před 10 měsíci +5

      If we relied on customers to reject their own vices, we would still have cigarettes advertised to kids. The gambling isn’t going to stop until the government steps in to stop it.

  • @mrdisaster5880
    @mrdisaster5880 Před 10 měsíci +79

    Watch the sheep buy everything.

    • @reborngreatnesss5712
      @reborngreatnesss5712 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Yeah sadly

    • @Skateandcreate9
      @Skateandcreate9 Před 10 měsíci +2

      You mean the addicts 😂

    • @mrdisaster5880
      @mrdisaster5880 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@Skateandcreate9 makes sad to know 2 family members belong there😢 and no matter what I say is pointless.

    • @user-hs3zl2pp5f
      @user-hs3zl2pp5f Před 9 měsíci

      I feel bad for sports fan they can’t even get a decent game

    • @dubcap7443
      @dubcap7443 Před 9 měsíci

      I haven’t bought madden or 2k this year and let me tell u if feels damn good😎💆🏾‍♂️

  • @johnalexwallwall
    @johnalexwallwall Před 10 měsíci +2

    Facts, i stop playing 2k a few years ago when I realized i was buying the same game every year, only roster updates between games it felt like.
    I hope ea see’s this though i doubt they’ll change anytime soon

  • @SteezoENT
    @SteezoENT Před 9 měsíci +1

    Joe I am an ceriel 2k buyer, after years of falling for the same micro transactions they have taken this way to far and this prevented me from purchasing this game.
    The base game is $70, to make a single my player or get packs you need another $50 to compete! Now they have a seasonal pass, on top of all that they have a new badge system that makes you lose badge progression (skills that help you character do a specific thing better) if you do not use a badge, but wait they make they sell a fix for it in the season pass that sets your badge level.
    IT IS SICK BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY ON IT.

  • @TrillWill675
    @TrillWill675 Před 10 měsíci +394

    Joe really has been right he warned us years ago that these greedy corporations would start doing this crap an he told us we won't wake up until it hits our favorite games 2k been my favorite sports game since back in the day I was just thinking about picking up 2k24 sad to see this happening to our games.

    • @GamerScoreInfinite
      @GamerScoreInfinite Před 10 měsíci

      You fucked yourself buying that copy and paste year after year anyway. It hit you years ago first, just too silly to see it.

    • @KEYTV13
      @KEYTV13 Před 10 měsíci +47

      2K been greedy for years, consumers were too blind to see it.

    • @TheCommanderTaco
      @TheCommanderTaco Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@@KEYTV13more the kids who have their parents opening their wallets, so corporations only see money and not value.

    • @gaupau
      @gaupau Před 10 měsíci

      Theyve been shit since take two bought 2k

    • @dark-cn9yq
      @dark-cn9yq Před 10 měsíci +14

      This is why games like bg3 need the attention they're getting. And why big corporations absolutely hate the success of it.

  • @justinmiller5539
    @justinmiller5539 Před 10 měsíci +292

    These sports games never cease to disappoint! LOL

    • @princenoreally
      @princenoreally Před 10 měsíci +18

      Sports games got me playing Madden 2k5, nba 2k11, mlb 10, and fifa 11 in 2023

    • @TheRealUcanUwill
      @TheRealUcanUwill Před 10 měsíci +2

      I know it's popular to hate on sports games, but you can still play them if you want the old school experience. I want to highlight the fact that all these predatory monetary practices are only in those idiotic multiplayer modes. I still play NBA 23 and single player simulation modes are enjoyable, full experiences with amazing customization and no money transactions.
      EA Sports is FAR worse, their simulation modes are so not up to far anymore, they literally there just to be a check on a box, to falsely claim it is simulation game. I think NBA 2K is a good game despite garbage miss like these. FIFA on the other hand us just an overpriced scam.

    • @lemonator8813
      @lemonator8813 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@TheRealUcanUwill not really... madden 23 didn't even have half the features or half the game play that madden 06 did
      Or nfl 2k5 did

  • @chrisweaver6742
    @chrisweaver6742 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This is where wwe2k games will be heading, every wrestler will have a price and you will have extra shit for having a season pass. Its sad man

  • @Khalith
    @Khalith Před 10 měsíci +7

    This will happen in other sports games. I’d be surprised if it doesn’t get patched in to Madden next.

  • @wolfsbane5448
    @wolfsbane5448 Před 10 měsíci +288

    joe ranting about sports games is absolutely amazing

    • @yomi4853
      @yomi4853 Před 10 měsíci +14

      Games? More like scam.

    • @warrenlewis4349
      @warrenlewis4349 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Everyone should be ranting.

    • @jameshn504
      @jameshn504 Před 10 měsíci +6

      He rants and make a lot of drama about it but still buys and plays the games, so he is doing nothing to solve this situation, i was a big fan of FIFA but i stopped playing on 2017 soon after they added the ultimate team mode and never played a FIFA game since. if you want to make an statement do it with your wallet and do not buy the game.

    • @GreenScrapBot
      @GreenScrapBot Před 10 měsíci

      It's a yearly tradition at this point.

    • @yomi4853
      @yomi4853 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@jameshn504 He NEEDS to buy it to warn people about bad company practices... If you make a review about a game the requirement is to BUY it and test it yourself. NO BIAS.

  • @SupremeKayJay
    @SupremeKayJay Před 10 měsíci +190

    If Joe knew we had to pay $70 for a build he would have a heart attack lol

    • @bigwickjimformthes
      @bigwickjimformthes Před 10 měsíci +9

      Bump

    • @mikeyb5610
      @mikeyb5610 Před 10 měsíci +15

      In Europe we are paying even more lol. This has to stop. I've played 2K23 without spending money and only paid 7 euro for it but getting even 85 took ages for me.

    • @nuiharime3410
      @nuiharime3410 Před 10 měsíci +15

      You don't have to pay 70 bucks, you choose too, that's on you, hold this L

    • @SupremeKayJay
      @SupremeKayJay Před 10 měsíci

      @@nuiharime3410 that’s not even the point idiot be quiet 😂

    • @SupremeKayJay
      @SupremeKayJay Před 10 měsíci

      @@mikeyb5610 good lord

  • @tankdogization
    @tankdogization Před 9 měsíci +2

    This is why I don’t buy new games. I turn my XSX on and just don’t find any interest in games nowadays. I just know they’re going to be filled with microtransactions, season passes, paywalls, and subscription services.

  • @acthemagician
    @acthemagician Před 9 měsíci

    First video of yours I watched…now subbed cause you speaking facts

  • @ranoutofcharac
    @ranoutofcharac Před 10 měsíci +85

    A battle pass system for a yearly release game. Wow.

    • @gsst6389
      @gsst6389 Před 10 měsíci

      I mean- …. Cod?

    • @argosbrave6415
      @argosbrave6415 Před 10 měsíci

      Even COD decided to slow down their releases ... it's Blizzard so there's bullshit there for sure lol but, 2K ain't gettin off the hook here

    • @gsst6389
      @gsst6389 Před 10 měsíci

      @@argosbrave6415 oh sorry my bad, i guess if the release are every 2 years then its all forgiven and good 💀💀💀 yea i drop the ball on that one i forget they reset every 2 years instead of one i forgot they receive the extra year by ONE. Yeap my bad 💀

    • @gsst6389
      @gsst6389 Před 10 měsíci

      I cant believe EA actually seemd like a good company now since there not at the bottom anymore, lol

  • @Akimbo411
    @Akimbo411 Před 10 měsíci +324

    This isn’t going to stop until more robust regulations are put in place. For starters, any piece of software that uses credit card information for ANYTHING should be 18+ or the minimum age for someone to have their own credit card. Second, store owners like Playstation and Steam should be required to offer parents an option to require a secret code for all purchases made through the store so kids can’t buy anything without their consent every time.

    • @mcnamaraky
      @mcnamaraky Před 10 měsíci +13

      This is a decent idea but I doubt it would work at all.
      For one, kids are usually more "techy" than their folks and are almost ALWAYS able to figure out those codes.
      Growing up they had parental locks on TVs for certain level content. I didn't know a single family where they were able to do that successfully without the kids finding out the codes...
      Second, and more importantly, now if a card is REQUIRED for the game in order to play it, to prove that the person playing it is 18? Well parents would just put it in for their kids and then the kids would just figure out the code. And now all they need to spend money would be the code and not the physical credit card.
      A better option is maybe require the card to be entered EVERY TIME, not allow it to be saved, this way everyone under 18 IS FORCED TO ASK THEIR PARENTS FOR THE CARD FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PURCHASE? So then the parent needs to physically take out their card and give it to their kid?
      I mean the obvious answer is parents should pay attention to what their kids spend money on, but IDK what else would actually WORK 100% besides better parenting...
      I mean it's like a porn site you know? Kids are gonna get on there by clicking Yes I am 18...they're gonna figure out ways to spend money too...
      I think not allowing children under 18 to SAVE CREDIT CARD INFO would possibly help this a bit as I mentioned, but I am very unsure about anything that could have an impact on this...
      Asides from gaming companies not promoting and encouraging children to gamble with chests and shit...

    • @the._jayd3n128
      @the._jayd3n128 Před 10 měsíci

      season pass isnt bad tho? wtf is everyones problem YOU dont need to buy it ima cook whoever regardless and i aint getting the season pass regardless who cares if your good then it wont matter

    • @Akimbo411
      @Akimbo411 Před 10 měsíci +28

      @@the._jayd3n128 It’s about us as customers expecting certain things to be a given for the money we spend. If you went to a restaurant and they charged you an extra fee for silverware, you would be rightfully upset when they told you “you can still eat with your hands”. If every restaurant started adopting the same practice, the overall quality of restaurants decreases, right?

    • @Akimbo411
      @Akimbo411 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@mcnamaraky You’re definitely correct about that. That’s a great idea.
      As for the porn thing, Utah actually requires porn sites to verify age for real now which has caused sites like Pornhub to shut down service in the state completely. Personally, I would only criminalize the monetization of internet porn. Target the financial companies that process payments for these websites. If banks and credit card companies were hit with heavy fines every time they facilitated an Onlyfans subscription or a paid advertisement on a porn site, internet porn would collapse outside of people hosting it on their own dime.

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@the._jayd3n128 _This comment brought to you by 2k Games._
      Lookin like those degenerate mofos in the advertisement. Is that you? Point to us which one is you.

  • @whodeycinbengals
    @whodeycinbengals Před 10 měsíci +2

    I agree whole heartedly. I haven’t bought a 2k in 10 years and I haven’t bought a madden in at least double that. And I’m someone who grew up on video games and have played them for most of my life and I’m also someone who’s whole life is sports (WHO DEY). I play mlb the show and that’s it. No extra money spent for card packs or any of that bs, just pure franchise mode. By myself. And I love it.

  • @jaylucid6299
    @jaylucid6299 Před měsícem +1

    Crazy thing is u pay $150 for game then 2yrs later they shut server down and u can’t play half of game anymore

  • @BigMobe
    @BigMobe Před 10 měsíci +138

    They are helping people kick thier video game addiction by making games that cost more than the equipment to play a sport in real life.

    • @Skateandcreate9
      @Skateandcreate9 Před 10 měsíci +7

      😂 it’s getting there!!!

    • @DeShawnMcDonald
      @DeShawnMcDonald Před 10 měsíci +8

      Lol fr I've been saying for years I'd rather a kid smoke crack once then play raid shadow legends or 2k, atleast crack and drugs give you some shitty feeling afterwords

    • @ShaktiChaturvedi
      @ShaktiChaturvedi Před 10 měsíci

      For real man !

  • @ashman8891
    @ashman8891 Před 10 měsíci +114

    The worst part about this is that other games have been infected with this kind of monetization too

    • @VampirezZ4
      @VampirezZ4 Před 10 měsíci +11

      I think the even worse part about this is that players are allowing these monetization practices to happen. As long as they keep spending money on battle passes or loot boxes, the developers won't care how many they put in.

    • @chicog6295
      @chicog6295 Před 10 měsíci +11

      Sports games are literally a waste of money. It's copied and pasted as a new title, every year...

    • @tucci06
      @tucci06 Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@VampirezZ4 That's because they're relying on normies who don't even discuss this shit online to just come home from work and spend their paycheck without even thinking about it. They justify it by saying stupid shit like "Well, a night out to dinner costs more" and "I'm getting my money's worth anyways with how much time I spend playing."

    • @BlackPaperMoon18
      @BlackPaperMoon18 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Basically mobile f2p systems within full priced console games.

    • @jaystarr6571
      @jaystarr6571 Před 10 měsíci

      Dude, we're already forced to see like 10 billion ads all over the game when you're playing.
      You'd think they would have enough money from that alone!

  • @MrJwise88
    @MrJwise88 Před 9 měsíci

    Hey, are you still going to do a game review for madden 24, cant wait to see your review.. keep killin it

  • @neilsimmons9582
    @neilsimmons9582 Před 9 měsíci +1

    And Joe don't forget about needing VC to better your player, how the player starts they're darn near unplayable and the grind is way too long soo you have to use VC. Now they have a battle pass on top of regular game price. It's like a car dealer adding in hidden fees.

  • @bingobongo8701
    @bingobongo8701 Před 10 měsíci +18

    Can't wait for the madden 24 rant

  • @NicolaiHenri
    @NicolaiHenri Před 10 měsíci +276

    It gets even worse Joe, they also charge and give the option to skip battle pass levels for 1.99 dollar a pop. Keeping in mind, that building ONE decent player cost around 100 dollar worth of Virtual Currency. There needs to be a drastic change in these sports games, but they are earning too much money with these practices.

    • @Auxzide
      @Auxzide Před 10 měsíci +6

      I remind you that you don't have to spend a hundred dollars to build your character you just need to play the game. everybody always includes that hundred dollars in the pricing of the game but no just play the game build up your VC build up your character it will take longer than if you just bought it but that's the game. 2K isn't making you spend that hundred dollars to build up your stats.

    • @minibike4
      @minibike4 Před 10 měsíci +41

      @@Auxzidethe design the game in way where it takes unreasonable long to build up vc and level ip your player…nobody has time to grind all day every day for a year just to reach 99..maybe longer…it shouldn’t take that long

    • @rickyholmes5924
      @rickyholmes5924 Před 10 měsíci +31

      @@Auxzideit takes too long to play the game and level your player up. It cost around 450,000 vc just to get from 60 overall to 99. You can play a full season in my career of about 80+ games and barely get between 150,000 vc and 200,000 vc. The moral of the story is that takes wayyyyy too much time to grind that out. It’s a pay to win game

    • @NicolaiHenri
      @NicolaiHenri Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@Auxzide I agree with you that you don't have to do it, whenever I made a second build (most of the time center, as you can still somewhat play at lower rating) I played the way you describe. Also I would play just in the weekend and not be able to reach a high level playing like that, and as I understand from other players, recent 2Ks have made earning x amount of VC per game/hour less and less. Not sure if that is true, but I have not felt the urge to buy or play this game from release anymore, which is a shame because I used to have lots of fun with it. Anyway, the point is that the ingenuity of sports games development seems to be in monetized features and not pure gameplay features.

    • @whitetee1816
      @whitetee1816 Před 10 měsíci +29

      @@Auxzideby the time you grind 250k vc, 2k25 would be coming around the corner 😂

  • @ewhnn7935
    @ewhnn7935 Před 10 měsíci

    I either game share or get them on discount last minute.. not only the prices but they change every rank system and park consistently and it’s tiring not even getting fucking games after dropping 300$ on a game

  • @Xtratik
    @Xtratik Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great content as always, NBA2K out of their minds with this ish

  • @rishabhchoudhury130
    @rishabhchoudhury130 Před 10 měsíci +82

    Honestly, 2K is way worse and shameless compared to EA when it comes to aggressive monetization for their sports games. It's just that EA has more popular franchises and therefore takes away most of the negative attention from 2K. The PC version for this game is still old gen btw.

    • @willfields2096
      @willfields2096 Před 10 měsíci

      Agreed

    • @blakehoule6698
      @blakehoule6698 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Yup people will be like “ NFL needs to give the license to 2K “ like they weren’t all going down the same path lol

    • @MannyParadisee
      @MannyParadisee Před 10 měsíci +1

      They are doing pc so dirty

    • @vicmo25
      @vicmo25 Před 10 měsíci

      But to be fair, 2k actually puts effort into their games/modes. 2k's My Career & GM modes are A+ while with Madden it's just a bare mode. I mean, Madden Madden just added refs on the field. Imagine 2k removing refs.

    • @jakimmixon1461
      @jakimmixon1461 Před 10 měsíci

      @@blakehoule6698no no no, let them compete!!! Let 2k get the license. I’ll be glad to watch both horse crap companies fail while trying to make the same game

  • @BOKtober
    @BOKtober Před 10 měsíci +74

    It can’t almost be madden time of year again can it? Joe reviewing madden brings me more joy than Christmas

    • @VainRain69
      @VainRain69 Před 10 měsíci +8

      🎶 It's the most Madden time of the year. 🎶

  • @slimydog8946
    @slimydog8946 Před 10 měsíci

    Blessed. This was up there with the OG XBox One rant.

  • @GabbGames-Watch
    @GabbGames-Watch Před 10 měsíci

    And to force u to buy the pass they stop giving u vc after a while. I quit playing 2k because I stopped getting vc for a match they force me to play

  • @bigfrog4127
    @bigfrog4127 Před 10 měsíci +95

    I have retired from 2k after nba2k23. It's a shame what is happening to games. Good luck next generation.

    • @richereedjr543
      @richereedjr543 Před 10 měsíci +6

      I agree, unfortunately I don’t even play 2k23 either. I’ve been a fan for 20 years. It’s a shame what this legendary game has become. Wish you well brother 😎

    • @biggmt6832
      @biggmt6832 Před 10 měsíci

      A lot of people don't even notice that the training facility has been the same since 2k16, it even has the same background noises, coaches, etc. SMH@@richereedjr543

    • @MannyParadisee
      @MannyParadisee Před 10 měsíci +5

      To sports games* I just play stuff like God of War, Elden Ring, Resident Evil, ghost of Tsushima etc. Way better than COD or any sports game.

    • @oreed8
      @oreed8 Před 10 měsíci +2

      you'll be back, i said this before ...lol..smh

    • @Dev-qs7ss
      @Dev-qs7ss Před 10 měsíci +3

      I retired after 2k11. It's a damn shame to see what happened to this franchise.

  • @spenserb8082
    @spenserb8082 Před 10 měsíci +78

    The 25th Anniversary Edition is actually $149.99. (Not including those "Season Passes). That's also the same price as on PC, which is still the last gen version.

    • @pokes404
      @pokes404 Před 10 měsíci +4

      For a little context, that 25th Anniversary Edition comes with a season-long subscription to NBA League Pass. I bought this version because I was going to purchase League Pass anyways to be able to watch all of my local team's games this season (CZcams TV doesn't carry my local team). The price of League Pass alone is $100. So for me, as someone who actually watches the NBA on a regular basis, the $150 version is a pretty good value. It saves me roughly $20 than if I had bought League Pass and the base game separately. And I get the preorder bonuses as a little cherry on top (even though I refuse to play the MyTeam mode and will never actually use any of those bonuses).
      However, I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't watch the NBA, will never use that League Pass subscription, and are just buying this version because it has the best in-game preorder bonuses. Those people are getting ripped off. If they buy this version, tack on this stupid battle pass, and then purchase additional VC and other micro-transactions ... they're easily going to be over $200-$250 right off the bat. That's just insane. I guess it's their money at the end of the day, but buying all that useless crap just encourages them to keep tightening the screws on all the rest of us.
      As for the PC version, I had no idea they were charging that much for the "last gen" version of the game. That's beyond ridiculous.

    • @D1E1R1E1K
      @D1E1R1E1K Před 10 měsíci

      @@pokes404
      The league pass was the only good thing about 2k23 lol

    • @toastwiththemoast954
      @toastwiththemoast954 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I love how they’re STILL using Kobe Bryant’s name to charge additional money for the game.

    • @guczy
      @guczy Před 10 měsíci

      @@pokes404 Last year I also thought it would be a good deal but then they brought down the yearly league pass price to like 50 bucks. I checked now and its still only like 65$ (converted from my local currency)

  • @Cashmere__
    @Cashmere__ Před 9 měsíci

    Damn i aint see this till today smh they even got ppl paying to level up and im not talkin about just their overall but you pay $70 for the game , $5-100 for VC just to get closer to an 85 overall and then to become level 40 in the MyCareer park mode you can pay to become level 40 smh the craziest shht ive ever witnessed cuz its over $120 and it resets every season

  • @TheRealEclipse1
    @TheRealEclipse1 Před 10 měsíci

    Madden and 2K are games that I really only get on deep sales or if on game pass or something. Play one every couple of years so it feels like they improved it somewhere and I play just short of one full season lol. I completely ignore the microtransactions, but they really push them. Even when NBA 2K is on sale for $10, I end up saying "Maybe next sale" every time.

  • @J_FrmTheBay
    @J_FrmTheBay Před 10 měsíci +199

    Thank you Joe. As someone who loves basketball and is handcuffed by 2k this needed to be spoken up about. It’s criminal

    • @acanofwhoopass4599
      @acanofwhoopass4599 Před 10 měsíci +38

      Stop playing 2k. That’s the only way it’ll change 😂

    • @Sebatticus
      @Sebatticus Před 10 měsíci +16

      Just don't play 2k or fifa or madden, sports games are a scam lol

    • @DatDude0925
      @DatDude0925 Před 10 měsíci +10

      You make an excellent point, but that’s a tough ask if you love basketball and video games, and this is the ONE basketball video game.

    • @aut3ntik044
      @aut3ntik044 Před 10 měsíci

      Nothing is gonna change

    • @seanwilliams7655
      @seanwilliams7655 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@Sebatticus there are a lot of casual games who don't play much more than sports games and shooters. You might as well tell them to stop playing video games.

  • @MrDaddyRexx
    @MrDaddyRexx Před 10 měsíci +77

    What’s sad is that on top of $70, you need to spend like another $50 to make your one character, that you might messed up on due to getting the game release day

    • @IsaiahBrownUnbelieved
      @IsaiahBrownUnbelieved Před 10 měsíci +39

      50? Lol nah it's over $100 worth of vc to max out ONE player smh and the amount of hours it's takes to upgrade without spending anything is crazy

    • @D1E1R1E1K
      @D1E1R1E1K Před 10 měsíci +16

      $50 extra might get you to 80 overall lol.
      If you want to max out 1 build it’s easy over $100 now.
      And you better hope you studied about 10 hours on CZcams before you make a build or you will be rocking a dead useless build in a week.

    • @jalenwalker8790
      @jalenwalker8790 Před 10 měsíci

      @@D1E1R1E1Kfacts

    • @shad3115
      @shad3115 Před 10 měsíci +3

      50 on a character that they will nerf because it’s too good

    • @certifiedxGhost
      @certifiedxGhost Před 10 měsíci +2

      $100 for the character

  • @b1gsea
    @b1gsea Před 10 měsíci

    I almost read that the NBA itself on live added some kind of viewing pass with tiers lmfao. I was about to disintegrate into dust.

  • @user-ii8oy3qg2t
    @user-ii8oy3qg2t Před 10 měsíci +1

    2k did this quietly by testing it in the pga game they've had paid battle passes whis is ridiculous so now they're just adding it to their main franchise

  • @alexward9686
    @alexward9686 Před 10 měsíci +12

    I’m in Austin, and I thought I felt the ground shake 😂😂

  • @breakrdude181
    @breakrdude181 Před 10 měsíci +71

    I absolutely can't WAIT to hear what excuses the sports gamers have to say about this.

    • @AfricanH3ro
      @AfricanH3ro Před 10 měsíci +1

      they want to play NFL/NBA and there's only one option for both lol

    • @jakobbeck9251
      @jakobbeck9251 Před 10 měsíci +1

      We are fucked off. But where else do we go?? I cannot get my basketball game fix without selling my kidneys

    • @VenomGamingCenter
      @VenomGamingCenter Před 10 měsíci +14

      The excuses are already starting in some of the comments.
      "You don't need to spend to progress"
      Completely ignoring the dark pattern gameplay that makes the grind near unbearable to progress unless you no life it.
      Not to mention a battle pass being added to a yearly release game. Anyone defending this has clearly been labotomised at birth.

    • @Snowball9634
      @Snowball9634 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Sports gamers have always been turbo casuals with more money than sense so this will never get better.

    • @zachward97
      @zachward97 Před 10 měsíci

      @@jakobbeck9251play any of the previous games that are exactly the same from the previous 20 years if you support garbage all you will ever get is garbage

  • @shantinedavis1723
    @shantinedavis1723 Před 9 měsíci

    Joe i been playing 2k since 2k10 this is outrageous

  • @Citizen5667
    @Citizen5667 Před 10 měsíci

    I quit playing NBA2k at NBA2k14 when they did away with Team Play where each position was a player or if they left it went to AI but you could switch to that position manually.
    Its really not a multiplayer game any longer, but rather a 1v1 game and you have to outbuy your opponent with real money to win.

  • @bryantrichardson8447
    @bryantrichardson8447 Před 10 měsíci +92

    The saddest part is...even this won't cause enough of the community to boycott this...I'm still at shock that it's had input latency online for years and that is widely accepted among the community...couldn't tell u why...didnt think so many people could be so dim

    • @umpalumpa-qw8ru
      @umpalumpa-qw8ru Před 10 měsíci +1

      Of course not. Look at Fifa

    • @nonyabizz3533
      @nonyabizz3533 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Bro the game is laggy offline. I could never play 2k because everything is like a half second delay. Nothing is fluid

    • @Khasym
      @Khasym Před 10 měsíci +4

      You have to remember, addiction isn't something that's curable by just being bad. Many a person has suffered real, long term harm from bad drugs or alcohol, and yet, there are people who simply do...not...care. This is the same. The only difference, is no one's dragging a video game company into court, for a faulty product....we're watching apology videos....

    • @isaigutierrez1617
      @isaigutierrez1617 Před 10 měsíci

      Of course not. There is no competition on the NBA side and those bastards literally spend like $99.99 on launch to customize their players. They don't give a fuck. NBA 2K IS EVEN WORSE THAN MADDEN

    • @kukuhimanputraraharja8084
      @kukuhimanputraraharja8084 Před 10 měsíci +1

      because almost all of those players who played ea nba fifa sports game are all p2w gamblers who doesn't care about fair gameplay.

  • @TheWtfanime
    @TheWtfanime Před 10 měsíci +142

    I will never stop spreading this message whenever Joe does a rant video... DON'T BUY SPORTS GAMES. This shit is greed manifested in a digital form, plus they're hiding behind professional athletes. OJ's reaction and silence speaks volumes.

    • @p1xelz323
      @p1xelz323 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I mean my friend will buy this game and love it. Who cares?

    • @theriddler1112
      @theriddler1112 Před 10 měsíci +33

      ​@@p1xelz323 your friend doesn't realise he's being mugged off

    • @theduck2970
      @theduck2970 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@p1xelz323 Then, tell your friend to just make a bonfire and throw cash into it. Much easier.

    • @TheWtfanime
      @TheWtfanime Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@theriddler1112 ^^^ This

    • @philo2189
      @philo2189 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Nah imma still buy it. I only play one game mode and that's my league which has always been a great mode. All this stuff with my team my career and this battle pass stuff I never cared for. I only care about my league so imma still get the game to play that.

  • @ninjachannel007
    @ninjachannel007 Před 9 měsíci

    It has been slowly progressing toward this since microtransactions and VC were added.

  • @MyFavoriteSportsballTeam
    @MyFavoriteSportsballTeam Před 9 měsíci +1

    This just continues to make me ask: why do people keep buying these games? They wouldn’t do it if nobody was paying for it….

  • @Adam_Barrett
    @Adam_Barrett Před 10 měsíci +91

    For extra context - there were 9 seasons in the 23 edition. They might even increase that this year so it’s £10/£20 x 9/10 seasons. And then everything resets for 2K25. Also they shut the severs off 2 years later so you can’t ever play again 😂

    • @tylerclayton6081
      @tylerclayton6081 Před 10 měsíci

      Those nba2k games are usually dead after 2 years anyways. Everyone moves on to the next 2K game every year or every 2 years

    • @Denzillify
      @Denzillify Před 10 měsíci

      @@tylerclayton6081🐑🐏🐑

    • @sportsballgaming2239
      @sportsballgaming2239 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@tylerclayton6081Yeah, but if you wanna play through your mycareer from an older 2K, you just can't because the servers are off. I tried it with a 2K from 2 or 3 years ago.

    • @brendanhunter389
      @brendanhunter389 Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@tylerclayton6081not the point. All your builds are deleted when the servers go

    • @MattyIcez1225
      @MattyIcez1225 Před 10 měsíci +4

      But what you don’t realize is that the content in each season is just a full mirror reflection of the previous 2k22.
      Mascot skins, bikes, jerseys, skeletons. I played all seasons in 2k23 and none of the content was original and not copied and pasted from the previous years rewards 😂

  • @77jesse77
    @77jesse77 Před 10 měsíci +96

    Thank you Joe for speaking out on this. I would love for you to keep this thread going. Most of the 2k community doesn't even see their favorite content creators call out how bad take two is screwing us. I'm officially out on 2k and any related youtuber who doesn't speak out.

  • @TCpride5
    @TCpride5 Před 10 měsíci

    Not to mention VC to level up MyPlayer to just compete against everyone else. So there’s an extra 60-80$ for one build. Almost people make more than one build. On top of that VC prices are always increasing every year. It’s getting out of hand.

  • @topfloorslimey
    @topfloorslimey Před 9 měsíci

    😭😭😭i got off this narcotic years ago …i never understood mystery packs, mypark or my career so i just retired Lmaoo

  • @Rainbowhawk1993
    @Rainbowhawk1993 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Single Player gamer to Multiplayer Gamer:
    “Wow, sucks to be you.”

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 Před 10 měsíci

      you don't think this bs is gonna start happening in single player games? it absolutely will.

    • @ForHeWhoLaughs
      @ForHeWhoLaughs Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Blanktester685 not to mention, 2K is essentially a single player game that just so happens to be multiplayer. If you play this by yourself, you still reap benefits of the rewards. It's definitely otw lol

    • @Rainbowhawk1993
      @Rainbowhawk1993 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Blanktester685 It did (Shadow of War, Deus Ex Mankind Divided). But now that fad’s faded and most single player games no longer have them.

  • @ShootItALBY
    @ShootItALBY Před 10 měsíci +38

    Remember when you can just play basketball video games and get everything for free??? Epic times

    • @BLYFACTOR
      @BLYFACTOR Před 10 měsíci

      Like nba 2k12 was like the last year of this before it shit the bed.

    • @kalamari8243
      @kalamari8243 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I remember sports games where you *couldnt get anything* in the first place. you just had practice games or a season. and it was a blast. havent touched sports games in over 10 years.

  • @thirtythirty9054
    @thirtythirty9054 Před 9 měsíci +1

    150 Dollar 🤯Holy! 🤯What is going on

  • @ldawgg2426
    @ldawgg2426 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Joe I play 2K every year and this isn’t even the half of it I would love to talk to you and let you know just how bad it is!

  • @theInfra-Recon
    @theInfra-Recon Před 10 měsíci +67

    It's stops when Sports gamers stop buying this trash every year.
    Thing is, even if 2K tanks for a year it's not enough it has to be enough where it is consistent.
    Gamers would have to stop buying and supporting NBA 2K for 2 - 5 years minimum.
    This will continue as long as 2K execs and developers feel the need to do it. (Why change it if it makes money).
    Good rant as always.

    • @FullTiltBlitz
      @FullTiltBlitz Před 10 měsíci +5

      This is the players fault. Can’t even blame 2K honestly. It’s all bragging rights of how much money you’ve spent in the game. I’m done with MyCareer. I’ll wait til a sale and play season mode.

    • @vidmasterK1
      @vidmasterK1 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Yeah, you're just a vocal minority here, pal. Whining on the internet. CZcams, no less. Outside in the real world, people don't mind and don't care about this. That's why it's still prevalent and whatnot.

    • @Howhughes2013
      @Howhughes2013 Před 10 měsíci

      You know how people get when their favorite sports team wins or loses. I love black folks but they worship athletes. It’s the gamers fault.

    • @jlev1028
      @jlev1028 Před 10 měsíci

      ​​@@vidmasterK1And you're just a small-brained shill who can't stop defending horrid companies. Learn to support quality products.

    • @iamdebaby8152
      @iamdebaby8152 Před 10 měsíci

      If it was any other basketball game we would leave. But it isn't. We have no other options.

  • @OGProfficial
    @OGProfficial Před 10 měsíci +70

    Thank you for saying it some CZcamsrs in the 2k community are trying to justify these predatory play to win tatics

    • @andersandersen6295
      @andersandersen6295 Před 10 měsíci

      Play to win is bad?

    • @GODSCRAVE
      @GODSCRAVE Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@andersandersen6295in a game where u already pay 70 dollars minimum For, have poor and I mean piss POOR pack odds for the best cards that people will shell out 20 to 50 dollars a week for, a season pass for every 40 days NOT every basketball season, almost EVERY MONTH, 2k is abusing the player base because the player base is dumb as hell and they've realized they will pay WHATEVER lmaoooo I'm done with it

    • @jpritchett16
      @jpritchett16 Před 9 měsíci

      @@andersandersen6295yeah

    • @nox2sweet
      @nox2sweet Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@andersandersen6295 they most likely meant *PAY to win

    • @andersandersen6295
      @andersandersen6295 Před 9 měsíci

      No shit sherlock!@@nox2sweet

  • @obitwobignutz3899
    @obitwobignutz3899 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Nhl 24 is doing the same thing Joe! We need the angry army to be as loud as possible now!

  • @AeromaticAero
    @AeromaticAero Před 10 měsíci

    I just wanna see how much they are doing that warrants a yearly release for full price at this point. May as well just release a game that receives a major annual update each year but oh wait…moneys involved.
    Why do that when consumers will pay full price for the ultimate edition plus more every year 😑. I tried playing my team last year and had fun..then realized that they do this every year. You invest in a team heavily just for 2k to be like…aight this don’t matter no more, time to feed us more money for these loot boxes. It’s crazy.

  • @addidaswguy
    @addidaswguy Před 10 měsíci +73

    In MyCareer/Park you have to spend ANOTHER $100 to get your player to be useable or you have to play a RIDICULOUS amount of time. Also if you play MyTeam they expect you to spend HUNDREDS of dollars a month to keep a reasonable squad.
    Then they added an option pack where you could choose 1 of the top 3-5 new cards for FIFTY DOLLARS. And they do that TWICE a week. So they want $100 a WEEK, and a lot of people do at least one of those. It's disgusting.

    • @VainRain69
      @VainRain69 Před 10 měsíci +14

      Then your save file gets corrupted and you're not able to recover your player or the money you spent. Lmao

    • @DeShawnMcDonald
      @DeShawnMcDonald Před 10 měsíci +7

      ​@VainRain69 or they nerf the build and then your sitting there with a player that clears the que every time he ques up

  • @spermwhale8514
    @spermwhale8514 Před 10 měsíci +83

    This is not just happening with sports games. This is happening with most games like, Diablo, Gta, Call of duty, the list goes on and on. Someone needs to get this shit under control.

    • @bigmac22ify
      @bigmac22ify Před 10 měsíci +2

      Call of duty with a free battle pass, a paid battle pass and a premium paid battle pass

    • @sleasy01
      @sleasy01 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Ummmm. Just don't buy it! Problem solved

    • @bigmac22ify
      @bigmac22ify Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@sleasy01 just don’t buy it is not the answer, they make you buy it by reducing the amount of things you used to get by playing the games naturally. But yeah I haven’t bought a 2k since 18 and I’m not buying the next cod.

    • @spermwhale8514
      @spermwhale8514 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@sleasy01 Ummm I haven’t bought into their bs for a long time, it still doesn’t make it right for the rest. I’m a gamer at Heart, that’s my hobby and passion. So I guess that means that I can’t get anymore games and enjoy what I loved to do? Cuz is certainly seems like most companies are headed in this direction..

    • @mcnamaraky
      @mcnamaraky Před 10 měsíci +4

      ​​​​@@bigmac22ifythey don't make you buy anything...you don't NEED GTA 5 to survive...I have not paid once for any microtransactions in any Rockstar or sports game. Or any game for that matter aside from DotA 2 about 7 years ago.
      I've bought one legitimate DLC for BoTW but I haven't bought any other DLC or anything in YEARS, at least 5, maybe even over 10...I cannot remember the last DLC I bought before that, and I didn't even buy that until like 2 years after it released.
      The answer actually is "Don't buy it."
      Because if people keep buying it and making money off of it, the company not only has no incentive to change it, but actually HAS an incentive to NOT change it...
      Go buy a good game that doesn't have this shit. There actually are a lot...from Elden Ring to Golf Story, there are tons of games that don't do this.

  • @Jakereisman11111
    @Jakereisman11111 Před 10 měsíci

    This same shit has been going on in the f1 games. Started in 2021 when EA bought codemasters. Their only new content to the game were no new features to career mode for the last 3 years, BUT YOU GET A VIRTUAL COUCH??!!?!?

  • @hudsanity_1590
    @hudsanity_1590 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you for your service sir

  • @theycallmemythic6423
    @theycallmemythic6423 Před 10 měsíci +21

    I would love to sit down with joe and tell him everything wrong with 2K, this is only thr TIP of the iceberg

  • @Jupex
    @Jupex Před 10 měsíci +30

    Sports games used to be something special, I'm glad I got to experience those times.

    • @jeromebryant9999
      @jeromebryant9999 Před 10 měsíci

      NBA Jam????

    • @seanwilliams7655
      @seanwilliams7655 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Gaming in general used to be special. Peak gaming was 1994 to about 2010. It's been downhill since then.

    • @devonparker20
      @devonparker20 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah me to bro me to 😢

  • @matthiasmeeks4297
    @matthiasmeeks4297 Před 10 měsíci

    Don’t forget the time when numbers on 2k19 were down so to make up for the lost margins they had unskippable ads before you played games…

  • @yothatscrazytv
    @yothatscrazytv Před 9 měsíci +2

    Wait... so you tellin me in a world where games are free with battle passes like fortnite and apex, 2K is puttin a battle pass within a game that you actually have to PAY for?? lmao very on brand for 2k to do some bs like this...

  • @scottwinfrey8250
    @scottwinfrey8250 Před 10 měsíci +35

    If they're doing this with 2k I can't imagine how explosive Joe's Madden rant will be this time around

    • @The1Music2MyEars
      @The1Music2MyEars Před 10 měsíci +2

      Fr going to be hilarious but sacrificing our gaming culture for comedy is a little ...sad

    • @scottwinfrey8250
      @scottwinfrey8250 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@The1Music2MyEars I guess I'm just embracing the gallows humor at this point

  • @jrt2792
    @jrt2792 Před 10 měsíci +37

    As a guy who isn't really into sports, I honestly feel sorry for all the gamers who play these sports games.

    • @yqco6
      @yqco6 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Don’t. The ones that still play are the reason these companies get away with stuff like this every year.

    • @IzzyDaKid
      @IzzyDaKid Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@yqco6i enjoy NBA 2K because of the story mode but i don't agree with what they are doing . what am i supposed to do lol

    • @jordanking7711
      @jordanking7711 Před 9 měsíci

      At the end of the day though, blame the gamers that encourage publishers like 2K and EA to do this shit. Fortunately I don't buy into these shitty practices at all, because I prefer a challenge in my games.

    • @jordanking7711
      @jordanking7711 Před 9 měsíci

      @@IzzyDaKid Just don't buy into these MTX practices. It's THAT simple. I mean how hard is it?

    • @IzzyDaKid
      @IzzyDaKid Před 9 měsíci

      @@jordanking7711 every year has a new story mode that i actually seem to enjoy , and then i just stop playing . It sucks that i have to spend $70 a year

  • @nightowl9856
    @nightowl9856 Před 10 měsíci

    it's been like this for 20 years now or more!

  • @CaptainSnipegoon
    @CaptainSnipegoon Před 10 měsíci +1

    EA Sports did the same thing with the NHL game too. Unacceptable

  • @Sheepy007
    @Sheepy007 Před 10 měsíci +45

    By this point I believe marketing executives off all those big publishers have come together in secret, wrote down a huge list of possible monetization tactics and then take turns each year implementing a new tactic from said list and see how the public reacts. And if the sales numbers did not suffer, the other publishers will follow and implement that mechanic in the following year.

    • @DaFiestyBanana
      @DaFiestyBanana Před 10 měsíci

      Its not even secret, there are plenty of on the books "proffessional conventions" which is execs bragging to one another about their glorious ways of ripping players off and how much money they made. Huge circle jerk and idea sharing cess pool that they call "networking"

  • @tkg__
    @tkg__ Před 10 měsíci +29

    It's incredible how "for free" slipped in there. They treat these games as they'd free-to-play but they charge for them, because they can.

  • @too_s0ber910
    @too_s0ber910 Před 10 měsíci

    Man, AJ, I would both hate and love to see what your blood pressure is...

  • @nateallen9436
    @nateallen9436 Před 10 měsíci

    Your right u already gott spend about a addtional 50 to 100 bucks to even be able to compete i .my park i may be skipping this for a while or until its on sale

  • @Wavecheckfoo
    @Wavecheckfoo Před 10 měsíci +15

    So glad I stopped buying 2K games a few Years back 😭

  • @cameronmcewan4628
    @cameronmcewan4628 Před 10 měsíci +70

    Joe plz keep doing what u are doing. Even if it feels hopeless sometimes. You give young people like myself hope when we are struggling for money to pay for power and food and turn to games for fun. I can only afford games like 2k and fifa when they go on sale for £10-£20 and when i do i feel miles behind the idiots who pay full price and then another £100 for their online teams while im stuck with 70 rated players against their "hall of fame ultra on fire #24 edition legend edition kobe bryrants" I kno after so long it feels like you are doing nothing but plz keep doing what you are doing. Even if its just to make people that are feeling like, hope that one day the ceos and suits will think about people like me
    I've been a massive fan of your show for nearly 10 years and these types of videos always make me feel like someone with a voice represents me. Thank you for videos like this.

    • @EonaLieksCheese
      @EonaLieksCheese Před 10 měsíci +3

      just buy better games man these games aren't made for gamers they are made to steal your money

    • @newginslab6993
      @newginslab6993 Před 10 měsíci +5

      At least with games like Elden Ring and Baldurs gate 3 there’s still hope for good games made by developers that actually care. Maybe with their success it will persuade other studios to start making quality releases again

    • @Mrcool179
      @Mrcool179 Před 10 měsíci

      Buy indie or AA games only

    • @the._jayd3n128
      @the._jayd3n128 Před 10 měsíci

      season pass isnt bad tho? wtf is everyones problem YOU dont need to buy it ima cook whoever regardless and i aint getting the season pass regardless who cares if your good then it wont matter

    • @Mrcool179
      @Mrcool179 Před 10 měsíci

      @@the._jayd3n128 You are the reason we have such heavy monetization in FULLY PRICED games now. Maybe you're too young to remember the days when you bought a game and you got EVERYTHING, without having to pay more. If you allow them to monetize and don't ridicule it and fight back, they will take over and ruin games even more.

  • @VixenOfFire
    @VixenOfFire Před 4 měsíci

    4:30 absolutely cracks me the fuck up every single time - the switch from casually explaining something to belligerent screaming in less than a second is hilarious

  • @luanfernando3751
    @luanfernando3751 Před 9 měsíci

    You're Madden 24 review should be on Theaters