QUEENDOM - How to spot Lip Sync in K-Pop
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2022
- Breaking down every amazing remix, cover and comeback stage in K- pop's Queendom for what it really is.
MAMAMAMOO - GIDLE - OH MY GIRL - PARK BOM 2NE1 - AOA - LOVELYZ
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00:00 - Intro
02:52 - EP.1 Round 1
06:02 - EP. 2 Round 1
13:36 - Ep. 3&4 Round 2
18:16 - Ep. 7 Bonus
19:18 - Ep. 8-9 Round 3
20:19 - Ep. 10 Finale
25:42 - Conclusion
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It's very obvious. Mamamoo sounds better live, they don't need autotune...
I thought so too, but it turns out a lot of the people in the comments are arguing the autotuned parts were live 😬
Maybe we have super ears or something
@@epmeats I'm pretty sure they used autotune, but they we're definitely live most of the time
@@epmeats i mean technically it was live, they just added a little bit more autotune than usual in post production editing which is why we can hear a difference with their other live performances. autotune and lip sync are different so you can definitely sing live with autotune.
@@em_pjmgroove Yeah I worded it bad, I mean people thinking the autotuned version is what their real voices sound like naturally ^^;
mamamoo in whole performance of queendom from first to finally they literally sing live there.of course when you watch on tv it's really different
Mamamoo deserved that win. That's why I'm mostly looking forward for Hyolyn and her legendary performances in Queendom 2 (although we all know ranking will mostly based on fandom smh). I hope Mnet wont force her to lip sync since girl can hit high notes like breathing.
I don't think it's about them getting it, it's more about not having to worry about vocals and focusing on performance. I really think every artist should use playback on TV performances, to protect their voice. Each stage takes almost 1h to record, they have to perform again and again to get all the camera angles. Can you imagine having to sing every time? For me live stage is for programs with this purpose and for concerts.
In season 1 Oh My Girl came in with a microscopic fandom and absolutely stomped (G)I-dle who came in with the biggest fandom. Your claim that the ranking will be mostly based on fandom is not backed up by any evidence. Maybe things will change, but based on what we saw, it's not the case just yet.
@@charred6683 At Queendom the result of winner was quite fair because at that time there were still live audiences and participants were judged by the audience and judges who clearly saw the show live. Yeah there's fandom voting too but not as hard as RTK and Kingdom.
Meanwhile, at RTK and Kingdom last year, due to covid, there were no live audience, not even the jury. The funny eh sad thing huhu is that in RTK itself the assessment is determined from fandom voting (only in even rounds) and voting from other groups without any judgment from professional judges:') (seriously that's still hurt me seeing ONEUS almost fail 2x just bcs voting from other groups 😭)
It's not that the winner doesn't deserve it, it's just that for example there are still no judges and live audience it feels like to win you can only rely on the power of the fandom :'')
@@tassiasilva5688 Ik it must be really hard to do both but at the end of the day these idols are trained for years FOR doing both. If they're just gonna dance then every amazing dancer would debut as an idol isn't it? The industry always wants more as the competition is very high.There're thousands of talented grps out there and you have to stand out to be successful. Mamamoo has my respect for showing what they're actually good at in such competitive industry where visuals and intense choreographies are given immense priority but the fact that they still try their best with amazing stage presence and charisma on stage and I think their win was amazingly fair. But I do think idols should be able to do more live stages coz the lipsync trend is even affecting artist who actually can pull off amazing live performances.
Truee i am looking forward to hyolyn too i hope mnet dont cheat in the voting just like queendom season1 coz queendom s1 is so accurate votings 💓💓
Parkbom really got the short end of the stick. I feel like she's the only one who came out with nothing. No new fans or exposure, her new song wasn't even promoted like everyone else. Her stages were the most forgotten and they sabotaged her voice.
I mean it's better than Lovelyz who came out of it with a disbandment but yeah she did get nothing
@@shaym.1372 I mean, can you really say they "came out of it with disbandment" when that disbandment happened slightly over two years later when their contracts were up?
I'm a lovelinus who started off listening to kpop with 2ne1... mnet really used her struggles and pain for the show and left her with nothing... I do feel really awful for her.
@@MichaelColey80 two years with just one comeback right in the middle (a year later) and them literally begging their company for another comeback or things to do... It's almost worst than immediate disbandment. They spent the majority of their last two years in woollim doing nothing and creating their own content for fans.
@@AddiesKpop I do wish we would have gotten to have more from them. They're all incredibly talented. I'm just glad they're each getting to do what they want to do now.
I hope they don't autotune hyolyn. Hyolyn is basically an ailee level vocalist and I love love love her vibrato.
They will, it's not up to her. MNet will do it to everyone.
@@epmeats yep. MNET is the real evil deal out there.
mnet will do it, however from the intro stage we can tell she's not lipsync at all
It's not about the artist. All "live" performances are a lie unless they're straight up just standing still or sitting and focusing on singing, or if you hear them blatantly breathing. Kpop gives such a realistic expectation where gullible fans think people can sound perfect while doing insanely intensive choreo. No one can, not even Mariah Carey. Which makes it hilarious when you see fans fighting whether their favourite idols sing live or not whem it's obvious they're not. If it's live, you'll know it. If it "sounds like a cd", it probably is.
I still believe that she is too good to be on Queendom.
i always love when mamamoo has to lip sing its so cute because they are not use to it so they look like lost little kids when they mess up
Yup! 100% agreed..
Esp Solar for me 😂
Lovelyz too
LOVELYZ is literally known for all their acapella back in their early days. their company def sucks at promoting them bc they could’ve been so much more. knets went too far hating on them for that when literally everything on TV is edited to some degree. I’m so sad for Lovelyz, I’ve been a fan since debut and mijoo has always been my bias so when she started gaining popularity in variety shows I was so happy for her and I thought this would help Lovelyz gain even more recognition as well, but ultimately they still disbanded :(
I was looking for someone mentioning their acapela like, can’t get more vocal focused than it even if you try! Is scary how all needed is half a dozen articles made in bad faith to mess with years of hardwork.
Seriously though, imagine if they had opened the show with an acapella arrangement of Ah Choo instead of the lazy-ass barely-a-remix with some black outfits to call it girl crush? They would've stolen the entire show
@@WhitePaintbrush they would stole the entire show but they missed the opportunity
@@WhitePaintbrush i always waited for woollim to bring back the acapella for queendom for i guess you can never trust such a shitty company
They're not disbanded
When autotune is incorporated to Mamamoo's voices it doesn't give justice to the thickness of their voices especially with Moonbyul's voice.
I can say that Lovelyz used to sing live in almost every stage for the promotions or concerts, but they were not that used to do lip sync, that might be the reason why they screwed up almost all the performances in queendom. They were trained to be a heavier vocal group but sadly they lip synched in queendom, but that doesn't mean that they are not talented, they have 4 amazing vocalists and were one of the few groups to have 3 main vocalists, also they slay so hard when they do acapella 👍
Ikr I feel like the fact that u could tell they can’t lip sync to save their lives means that they do normally sing live, I remember moomoos used to say that about mamamoo and I’m sad lovelyz didn’t
they also lipsycned in a lot of their normal performances sadly :( but they really is an amazing vocal group, i was blown away by their harmonies way back before. i really do not know what their management team was doing back in queendom. their stage presence and performance skills are all decent, none of them are bad, but ALL the stages (except final) concepts were all so bad and boring and dull. that’s why they didn’t get massive popularity after queendom. like what are u thinking, doing a sexy concept with an innocent son?????
@@user-ku9ko5pv4p yeah like all other artists, they did it mostly because they used to promote for almost 1 month every comeback and well, they needed to rest their voices. And yes, the management of their agency is trash and in 2019 was way worse than now. In that time woollim decided that Lovelyz will be left apart because the new focus will be Golden Child and Rocket Punch who debuted during Queendom.
@@emmaclarke8863 yeah, the hipocrisy on it's own
I remember them going viral for their amazing ah choo mr removed
I feel like people forget how good real live performances are. Its not perfect but alive. The unexpected adlibs and harmonies. Those performances that you have to see in person.
14:25 Wheein was awfully sick that day, her throat was very bad, temperature was high. BUT her presentation ws great! And she had 20 minutes only to learn the stage dance. What a professional!!!
Oh yeah I remember that!
Such a queen ✨
Stan talent stan Jung Qwheein
we dgaf
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As Mamamoo always say. We always mess up lip syncing.
I think you slightly missed the point, yes they're messed up lip syncing...but they didn't here, they got some autotune in some part of the singing. But they sang live.
@@Bongi344 From watching queendom, it is noticeable that there's an episode in queendom they lipsync. they only did it once but most of the performance in queendom are auto tuned
@@alfredgilfebresmago8425 oh sorry I haven't fully watched the video, yeah I forgot about the final perf. Some of their singing looks awkward in Destiny, like Solar lipsyncing Hwasa's voice behind Wheein's melody. I got your point.
@@Bongi344 mamamoo will never do lipsync the backing track was loud.
@@vadjulawakaru actually they do have videos of the them lipsyncing everywhere and they messed it up everytime that is why they prefer performing live
Autotune doesn’t make me mad. What makes me mad is when vocally talented idols/groups are made to use autotune. Look at Aespa. Their vocals are great. But I don’t know if I’ve actually heard them live aside from Ning Ning being the only one capable of singing louder than the backtracks they sometimes have when their mics are actually on.
Their choreography is very intensive. Most groups that focus on performance are bound to use pre-recorded vocals/autone because there is just no way they can sing properly while dancing heavily. Groups like Mamamoo have choreos made specifically so they can sing live. They're not very intensive and will let the one singing only stand and just do a light dance. If you expect someone perfectly dancing while also singing perfectly, it's just impossible.
@@silentKeys20
I disagree and hate that ohhh the choreography is to hardddd. No their choreography definitely isn't to hard. If you compare it to other groups. It has something to do with how K-pop idols need to be perfect. Look at 1,2 and 3rd gen groups. Live singing was still a staple. Or at least singing partially live. And some of these groups like got7, sistar, aoa, girls day, Snsd and many more have an even more demanding choreography than aespa. And still manage to sing live, or at least partially.
@@silentKeys20 That's not entirely true. 😅
It's a misconception that MAMAMOO has easy choreography so they can sing well. It's just that they have better focus on practicing their vocals as well as breathe control.
There are multiple videos, including behind the scene practice videos and videos by back dancers talking about MMM's choreos being hard.
For example this video talking about how Moonbyul's Eclipse choreo is so tough that even the choreographer and dancers find it tough. But Byul was able to learn it in 2 days, and managed to sing it live + still dance it perfectly.
(if you can understand korean because they don't have Eng subs) czcams.com/video/c8GY3pMUTmk/video.html
Or the video where Wheein practiced breathing and stable vocals by running and jumping while she sings Watercolour.
@@silentKeys20
Yeah and most use pre recorded vocals but not like 99% of the time. Even Ning Ning is tired about her not being able to sing. And gave the staff a notice that her mic is off but they didn't care.
You don't need to sing perfectly, I know that it's hard. But at least sing live for some performances.
Especially if the singer wants it themselves.
@@silentKeys20 It's just that the focus of the different companies caused the artists and groups to not allow them the chance to train up on their vocals and breathing as they are more focused on practicing for the perfect choreography and timing/stay on the beat to lipsync properly.
I think an important live moment in queendom was Solar from Mamamoo singing good luck by aoa cover, she almost fell and the voice stopped with her, so I believe that even if the majority of songs were autotuned there were some exceptions like that one!
Yeah, this video is clickbait bs
@@NMarxx it ain't. they showed it here lol, it was pure live. the aoa cover except for the very loud backtrack for wheein which agreed.
Autotune stops when they stop singing. The singing was live but a bit of autotune added in.
We can understand that 'autotune' = pitch correction program, not lipsyncing. The pitch correction happens simultaneously with live singing to correct where it deems to be in 'wrong' pitch. So if there's no singing, there's no pitch correction.
Now, the debate is whether the autotune was feed to live mic at live show or post production before tv broadcast. As we all know, the current technology allows both ways.
Yes, probably not lip syncing, but for sure the audio was edited before it was uploading
Lovelyz didn’t deserve all that hate during Queendom. It’s probably because of their concept change, straying from their girly and bright image, and the fact that they lip-synced all stages when they’re known for amazing live vocals, but it’s not like other groups haven’t done concept changes before or lip synced their stages. Every idol is bound to lip sync one day and that’s fine, since Queendom was more of putting out performances for the audience anyways so they might’ve wanted to focus on that aspect .
ngl it's almost only the concept change. no one really notices or cares that much with lip sync.
i think the knetz were mad bc of *how* lovelyz executed their new concept. everyone lipsynced and showcased a diff image. the dark/sexy version of Ah Choo felt unnatural to them and they lacked presence with facials etc. For sixth sense stage, they got hate for lacking originality and copying the same military concept as the sunbaenims.
Lovelyz have a chance in Queendom but I guess they made a lot of risky decisions except for Kei who pursued Hwasa. They tried being sexy with a cute song like Achoo and instead of choosing OMG song, they go with something else. If they choose Closer or Windy Day, they would have slayed it. I'm so disappointed with them. Kei is the only one who actually made the right call to stick to Hwasa.
Knetz are just bitches all the time😭✋Lovelyz didn’t deserve any of that hate😭
Mamamoo lipsynced the last stage?? I'm somehow proud they did the lipsyncing so well. They usually fuck it up. Lol
I think they didnt lipsync 🤔
But somehow i like the expression of hwasa when she know she's too early to close her mouth lol XD like "oopss *give sinyal to solar* let's continue" haha
Haha love this for my ladies MAMAMOO. “Mamamoo are solid vocalists, so it’s less noticeable. Autotune is easier to hear when the singer screws up”..yasss let’s go queens! Haha
its a shame that autotuned-live performances are the norm now, i dont know if anyone has seen lovelyz performances on their lovelyz alwayz concert because girlies be slaying those live vocals there, they're so good live yet pretty much no one realized that, even now after they disbanded:(
Yes i also thought of this. Yea we know like 2-3 of them have weaker vocals, but their live band concerts are gorgeous. 😍 Unfortunately the live vocals from this video are from their early debut days so it doesn't do them justice 🥲
Do you blame them. I saw a video yesterday on Oh my Girls recent comeback where Koreans are bashing OMG Arin, saying that she's tone deaf when in reality she sang live and sounded tired due to dancing and singing.
@@TT-ee1vv i mean, Im a huge fan of omg but even i cant deny that arin's voice never improved each comeback. Tho in her defence, her part in this comeback is right after a hard choreo involving them squatting and standing right back up so its amplified more
Please they were so vocally talented but the never got the recognition for their vocals
@@ansyzzz6778 you're fake haters pretending to be a fan, so shame on you say this kind of thing without knowing the truth, ARIN's vocals have been improved so much since her debuted, from a cute cheesy voice to a more mature and angelic voice on their comeback. you totally just bullshitting everything, FAKERS!!
Okaaay there are some really pressed Mooomoo's in the comments so let's have a chat. We all know they're some of the best vocalists in the 3rd gen. Most of you complaining didn't even watch the video and it shows.
1st, Why r u lying that saying I claimed they lip sync when Solar tripped? Uh 14:19 I Literally showed it and said Mamamoo are the only ones singing LIVE
2nd, Claiming I Miss you wasn't autotuned? 20:25 I want you to honestly tell me you're not delusional?
3rd, Showing older live videos is valid. lol ofc they won't sound the same, NO LIVE PERFORMANCE SOUNDS THE SAME. You're listening for the effects on their voice. As long as their vocals are unedited, any clip of them singing is a valid comparison, I chose the same song for reference to make it easier to hear.
*Come on guys, I love mamamoo too. I praise them in almost all of my video's. I know our fandom is better than that.*
Also Some people are confused about lipsync + Autotune both being used simultaneously. YES IT CAN BE BOTH :) Autotune can be fed live into the mic like for Mamamoo's Decalcomanie or a Pre-recorded track can be autotuned later in post production like with OMG's Twilight.
Kind of crazy how different each stage is depending on the round and idols. I would assume the idols got a lot more control over their stages but you never know who called the shots. The way Lovelyz was treated by the public was so hypocritical. I'm also sad only Kei got a chance to show off her voice in her duet with Hwasa since vocally Lovelyz is right behind Mamamoo in technicality/ range. What was your favorite stages? Mine were probably AOA's cover of Egotistical, Mamamoo's I Miss You & OMG's Destiny. (Plus Yooas MJ dance)
This isn't a response to the question, but I just wanted to genuinely thank you for recognizing Lovelyz's vocals. Since Lovelyz don't have a big international fandom, they're rarely mentioned here on CZcams and not many people know how good they actually are. I know that it isn't a huge deal, but thank you. It means a lot to this Lovelinus. ❤
And if anybody reading this comment isn't very familiar with Lovelyz, please watch this video! I swear that you won't be disappointed! czcams.com/video/Jgke-s-WtUQ/video.html
one thing to note that their stage was all live and recorded multiple times. mnet combined prerecorded track and performance separately. so who actually was on that live audience recording all know that they all are capable groups. lovelyz actually gained many fans after the show.
I have a question: did you take performances from Queendom from mnet yt site, or do you have recordings of how they were aired on tv?
Because I didn't watch Queends myself, but I watched Kingdom and I swear that the performances were significantly diffrent when they were on TV and what we got later on to stream (on yt). Mainly you can hear the difference in the breathing. At the end, almost every stage - on TV you could hear their breathing clearly (so mics are on) , and you could hardly hear anything on yt. So I'm not sure if you can just judge if someone sang or used autotune because they wanted to, or if it was mnet ordered to 'improve quality' in post-production.
@@MrLunea Mnets CZcams is the only one that matters, so thats what I used. Korea only had on average 40,602 people watching every week. Give or take 10-20 thousand more for Global viewers. However each performance on CZcams has roughly 10 - 36 MILLION views. So it doesn't matter what the live streamed version may or may not have sounded like. 99% of People around the world only saw the autotuned versions on youtube. Most people don't even know another version may have existed once upon the ethernet years ago.
That's not entirely true ... Programs like Kingdom and Queendom are all about increasing the popularity of groups. Those with a strong fandom from the rest of the world are to gain popularity in the country, and those with a lot of fans in the country are to gain fans from outside. That's why, the fanbases worked very strongly to share links where we could watched stream of TV version (e.g. twitch). I myself watched on twitch and the counter showed about 30k, and during the performances themselves sometimes the audience reached 70k. And there were at least 5 sepereted stream at that time. Additionally, on Twitter, later we could saw parts of preformances before mnet released them on yt.
Also, your narration in video is about how groups use autotune/lips sink/ live and not if mnet use postproduction autotune. So you kinda try to shows that it's group that cheating not mnet/TV.
Lovelyz main concept since their debut is to be hated by everyone for no reason.
They deserved way better
Right like girlies were living in their own world being so unproblematic dropping bangers absolutely unbothered about kpop trends and still got ppl mad
😭
Slap this in the face of ppl who said Mamamoo didn't deserve to win! They earned it!
Edit: Kind of funny ppl were quick before to say that can see Autotune and pre-recordings so easily. But now their faves got called out every fandom doing mental gymnastics to explain how it must be live 😭🤣
Amen
PREACH. They're the only group who actually SANG on their stages, that alone should qualify them as winners.
@@underthegardenwall No because QUEENDOM isn't about vocals. mamamoo singing live is impressive but doesn't make their stages better. Lovelyz could have been live but their remixes were still lack luster.
Aoa Egotistical or Omg's Destiny were way stronger than most of MMO's stages artistically and musically. Plus Mamamoo's one live stage of Good Luck was probably the least interesting, why was hwasa dressed like a shabby pirate? Park Bom was also mostly live and her performance's were not good compared tot he others imo
And they had interactive fun performances which def helped them win!
@@lalaloveapril8964 mamamoo stages isnt better? Are you deaf? Blind? Their stages are the best...!
Queendom ruined the last bits of lovelyz's already better-deserving career....I'm still sooo mad about them not even getting a proper last cb or even a decent solo album for any member in 2021...their company bribed them into going to that show (they told my poor girlies they were going to film a veriety show 😭) and totally stopped giving a flying fxck about them after them getting an unreasonable amount of hatred over the most stupid thing ever lol...imagine getting people sign a petition to the freaking BLUE HOUSE to disband your group over an stupid mnet show performance...and the comment section under that video is freshly updated with knetz talking sht about them TILL THIS DAY lmao
Anyways, buy Kei's Sweeney Todd musical tickes, this woman CAN SING and act! stream Obliviate as well!
Say it louder!!! I would never forgot the time linus need to try so hard protecting the girls and how the hate made our girls doubted themselvesㅠㅠ
I'll never forgive these companies for ruinning their voices like that. Most of them sound way better 100% live.
I LOVED LOVELYZ! I can't believe they were hated into disbandment :( Their company really miss managed them from the start.
I mean wasn't it just because their contract ended?
@@LouiseHultcrantz yes and because woollim is an absolute trash company that didn't want to take care of them
@@everyonethinksimgay6685 Can u elaborate on this? I thought Lovelyz was fine up until Queendom. Like they were solid mid tier in Korea at least. And then Queendom happened and somehow they kinda fell off.
@@CeCe1066 they weren't getting a ton of support within the company even before queendom, honestly. it'd been more than a year since their last comeback when the show went on, and then another year until their next comeback after it. they spent 2 of their 7 years basically on hiatus. they were definitely a solid mid tier artist with one song that had major chart longevity, but weren't promoted well by the company. lack of comebacks, they didn't let a lot of them do activities up until the end... they were a group that could easily make money doing concerts twice a year but after 2017/2018 Woollim really stopped doing much with them.
@@CeCe1066 Queendom caused the members so much mental anguish that Woollim gave them a year-long hiatus. Idunno why some Lovelinus kept saying this was neglect when the members themselves spoke about how detrimental the malicious comments caused them and how they had to rely on each other to overcome those hate comments through vlives and other platforms like Jiae's radio. Imagine giving them work when they're not in the right mental state of mind...I just don't get it. Now, Woollim did neglect Lovelyz in the last year after they came back with Obliviate. I personally think this had more to do with prioritizing other artists who’d make more profit only because Woollim almost had to file for bankrupt a couple of times while managing just Lovelyz and Golden Child. The end of 2020 and all of 2021 was a very busy time for Woollim; Sunggyu was discharged in 2020 (everyone knows he’s Woollim’s princess so he's their #1 priority), they had to re-discuss contracts with Infinite from 2020 to 2021, Drippin debuted in 2020, Golden Child had become Woollim's highest-profitable group that had to bring in a lot of the dough so they were given quite a bit of work earlier on, Rocket Punch needed a comeback after their last one in Aug of 2020, Mijoo was FINALLY making a name and breaking through the variety scene, Eunbi and Chaewon's contracts with Izone ended in 2021 so Woollim had to use up what's left of their contract with Chaewon before selling it to Hybe/Source Mu., Eunbi had to debut, Woohyun was coming back from military service & looking for a solo comeback, etc. Lovelyz's Unforgettable album sold just under 40k copies (last time I checked) and 91% of the MV's views are unauthentic. Meaning only 9% of it is unique viewers and didn’t come from bots, ads, streaming. Their concept change is no doubt a gift to fans but unfortunately, Queendom had already tarnished all that they’ve worked for and accomplished up until that point and Woollim didn’t help by hiding them after Obliviate. Whether the girls were selling at Infinite and Golden Child's level or not, Woollim should have given them their last album. If Woollim had, Lovelyz would have most likely all renewed and it sucked that the girls feel so cheated that they collectively decided not to renew. Even now, Baby Soul who's stayed out of loyalty is nowhere to be seen. I know Soul is one of the less popular members and she probably wouldn't sell as much but Woollim just hiding her without giving her any work is so odd. Soul is so smart and she can definitely go solo as she's both a phenomenal vocalist and rapper, I just don't understand why Woollim isn't putting her rap into good use. Sorry for ranting towards the end >_< I'm just frustrated when I know Woollim used to treasure Lovelyz so much
also, another thing that helps me confirm if its live or not is "ugly" expressions, like stayc's sieun tilt her head to the side when doing high notes, hyejeong from aoa do a >< expression with her eyebrows, jihyo and dahyun from twice eyebrows "dance" with the note they're making. its something really silly but helps out a lot lol
thanks comment section for telling me the name of the stayc girl btw!!
when you said jihyo i instantly had her face when singing fancy in my head, also do you mean sieun?
Ah yes you mean Sieun! From Stayc! But here you can definitely see if it’s live by their faces while sing notes. If they literally don’t make much effort and kind of seeing difficult notes in a very calm and serene way, that’ll be pretty weird and you could probably tell that it’s not live 100%.
Stayc just amazes me every time a watch their live singing performance
@정은지 Bang honey what?
Actually I'm surprised Mamamoo did so well with lip sync with destiny lol 🤣
They actually sang but the autotune was done after they sang
They didn’t. Prerecorded vocals were just too loud. You can hear solar screaming to be heard
@@byulkong8590 @Byul Kong nono they probably didn't sing the song but only hyped the crowd because the last episode was live they probably where told by the show to lip sync they wouldn't choose to lip sync They prefer singing
@@jyotitewari739 sure you can do that
@@gonosoi mic was on definitely and they're singing along to the backtrack that is sooo loud. moonbyul sometimes can be heard tho, you can tell. there are fancams of the finale. you can hear it.
I hate Mnet because in the show sometimes Bom tapped her mic to sign that there is something wrong with mic. I think she hated the autotune of mics or she can’t hear her voice from her earpiece. Autotune was a lot and autotune worked badly on her so they should’ve removed it.😩
I think people here need to know that lovelyz did really not even know they were gonna be in a competition show...their company sent them off there telling them they were gonna film a veriety show lol...it's not like that they can't pull different concepts off (watch Obliviate's fancams, or sujeong's tiger eyes fancams and see how they SLAYED that concept), they just didn't have enough time to prepare for the show and Woollim never wanted to spend enough money on Lovelyz to get them better stage props anyways!
Lovelyz are one of the very few kpop groups who always performed with LIVE BANDS in their concerts and the beauty of their 100% RAW live performances in concerts got a bunch of clips from their concerts going viral in Korea a couple of months before disbandment but woollim didn't take advantage of that sadly 😭
yes and also at that time they were busy preparing for their concert in between practicing for this show :(
The fact that live vocals are 100 times more enjoyable and amazing than those autotunes..its refreshing.. no matter if the vocals are broken or rough.. but they will never understand this..they just want perfect image for the idols.. also its actually easy to tell whether they are lipsynching or not..just look at their facial expressions and heavy breathes.. its compulsory that if someone is singing live then their facial expressions will automatically change and heavy breathes or a little bit shaky voice..
That's so sad about lovelyz, them being the only ones getting hate for not being live when all the performances were at the least edited... And the live vocals you showed for them were so good as well :(
Queendom was the first time i ever heard Park Bom, and I really didn't like her at all. I actually disliked her voice. But after seeing this, I see that it was mainly because of the weird autotune. When I heard the live clips she sounded a lot better. I feel bad for Park Bom, that she got done dirty like that. Imagine how many people like me heard her for the same time under those conditions.
She really was done dirty. Idek if it’s bc they want to show others that she’s not relevant anymore when she’s in fact a role model for many fem vocalist idols today bc of her unique voice
Tbh Park Bom's voice hasn't been improving, I think her technique may be getting worse or she simply doesn't practice as much. I don't think we can blame Queendom for all of it. These clips are super old, and may be edited as well for all we know.
@@heloise. Lol. She is amazing.
I agree, I was so disappointed with her stages because the way other artists looked up to her seemed as if it was only because she's a senior. But seeing this video is making me realise how badly we got played and how much discrimination she faced in terms of the stages.
Thank you for giving her another chance. 🥰
She is one if the greatest vocalist of 2nd gen and after all the scandals he got really hurt and she's just returning to make music again.
Mamamoo says if we ain’t live, you will know. 😂 love these queens.
Mamamoo deserved that win the MOST and they won it👑🔥
All of them played backing track but their microphones are on. You literally can hear Mamamoo, (G)I-DLE, Park bom and some of Omg singing over the track. For the master songs that they release, it's not from the performance. It's the master that they had to hand over to MNET on the performance day.
It's thanks to your vids that I can spot autotune way better. I'm not too into Kpop but I love seeing live performances of any kind so this was super educational
This reminds me of the my teenage girl fans saying how vocally talented the girls are when their vocals have been so autotuned that it sounds smoother than jisoo's pick-up lines.
@@theresadavis2004 fr that show was the most obvious with their autotune
@@theresadavis2004 omg i didn't know. It really sounded live for me.
@@guinnmyahslaysstaymad coz i actually listened to chaewon singing live after mtg and she freakin sound the same as she was in mtg.
So in other words Yuqi and Miyeon are the vocal backbones of (G)I-dle and deserve WAY more love and support.
also more lines
I always thought that Yuqi has always been the best vocalist after Miyeon and Minnie, because of her really nice deep tone and her stability when singing live
When I see and hear Gidle songs its always look like Soyeon ft. Gidle 🤣. Especially their new side song My Bag, the rest of the group all have a distinguishable unique voice one another but sadly they really only focused on one person
SO much of the texture of their songs rest in Miyeon and Yuqi voices, Minnie also gives a lot of character to them. Soyeon is really talented but Idle wouldn’t be the same without the vocal line.
@@andiandi9202 wdym soyeon ft. gidle in my bag??? if you just wanna complain for how she usually have a lot of lines my bag is literally the worst song you could’ve picked… my bag is a rap song yet the main rapper didn’t actually got to rap in it and everyone got their own spotlight and got to show off their rapping skills
i love and miss lovelyz so much. it still hurts my heart when I look back on the hate they received during this time. i don't care if you didn't like 1 or 2 of their stages-that doesn't justify the endless harassment they had to suffer through afterwards. constructive criticism is good, but that isn't what lovelyz got from most people.
sad i loved lovelyz and their latest comeback was so good.
The autotune fighting with Bom's voice and trying new settings everytime is so funny to me lmao.
Edit: Stage 4 without autotune proves that it has given up on fighting miss Bom.
Lovelyz are incredible live singers, this show didn't even need to prove that
*watching delulu moomoo's come running in with their heads cut off because they can't accept their faves lip sync and use autotune sometimes. Legend has it they haven't had to think for themselves for so long they wont realize the video is praising Mamamaoo's vocals*
Can you do one for kingdom? While girl performances are often meant to look effortless, boy performances are sometimes intentionally roughed up in body and facial expressions so it's harder to spot what is live.
I forever stan and love LOVELYZ. . .my forever LIVELYZ...
They are amazing and talented, and their vocals are no joke...
. . .all of them (Queendom participants' idols) don't deserve hate because they strive through hardship for their passion and success (let instead appreciate them).
. . .and I think the problem was not them but the program itself (nowadays auto-tune/prerecord dominates Kpop-Entertainment)
Post-production is scary thing here. That was dirty for Bom. The chorus part is should be mr parts, that's often practice in YG but instead left layering of back-track and her singning. They just cut her. Why?
Why were lovelyz such victims when they were one of the most vocally impressive groups of their gen 😭
10:32 That vibrato tho 😮 So much better live than autotuned 💗
theres zero vibrato in that part, i think u meant when she switched to falsetto
@@byeonggon There's a slight vibrato at the very end if you hear closely
@@Bongi344 i hear vibrato in 10:36 but not in 10:32
@@byeonggon Probably the OP meant that part too 😅
Whats crazy is I honestly love lovelyz after that sixth sense performance and listen to it more often. But i didnt even realize it was auto tune they did a good job of making it sound live
Lovelyz deserves to come back. ;(
I've never noticed how similar Wheein's and Park Bom's voices were. It's mostly in there upper/belt register where I hear a similarity.
have you ever heard their collab song 4:44? It's so angelic. i hope they do a live performance together someday.
the thing is that the audiences even said everyone sang live, but everyone still decided only lovelyz's vocals were corrected/lipsync TT_TT just say you're lovelyzphobic and go!!
Whoever is doing the autotune for Park Bom is the worst they ruin her beautiful voice and awesome singing techniques 😭💔
I'll be forever mad about what happened with lovelyz in queendom
Same. I feel like people would have given them a pass if they didn’t try so hard to change their image. I feel like if they would have just chosen an oh my girl song instead of brown eyed girls they would have gotten better results. They could have done remember me by oh my girl it is both pretty and badass. Also their vocals would have been amazing. I feel like they could have eased their way to changing their image like oh my girl did instead of trying so hard to create shock because it backfired. It’s a shame because they are so talented and their final song was my favorite :(
When Mamamoo really didn't want to be on the show. They are overworked that time, it's like they have a concert the day before the Queendom show.
Yep you make solid analysis.
I'd like to make a side remark that the encore from a weekly music show ceremony is a flawed reference because nobody can be arsed to set up the in-ear monitoring channel just right; the performers might not even hear themselves for real. Of course badly set up monitoring can occur any other time as well, so well, we take what we can get. Apropos that, i bet this is a major reason we get such weird performances where mic is on but nobody ever sings.
There's probably also only one monitor channel for whole group even during normal weekly show performance with live singing, so one of the reasons why on stage, more than one person actually singing should be super rare. So harmonies = studio track.
12:51 finger too close to rear of grill of the SM58, i wouldn't find the nasal tone too surprising here. This mic can emphasise it at the best of times. In fact i positively hate this mic for this reason.
But also so many pretty voices and great moves across all groups T.T Wheein just melts me every time...
No it's not the mic. Jimin is nasal in all her lives. Her voice is naturally like that and one of the reasons her voice got hated a lot during excuse me promos.
Encore stages are a last resort because yes the lack of ear monitor will make performing harder. BUT they don't have to dance so it's also easier. I'd argue the lack of dancing make it more accurate than not. The pros and cons of both cancel each other out.
Encore is still the only time you will ever hear a 100% live performance in Kpop now. There just aren't any live performances to show the audience an idols real voice not hidden in backtrack. On the flip side, Encore stages are GREAT for legit trained vocalists like Seunghee or Mamamoo here because they always always always sound better getting to stand and properly use their diaphragm.
At the end of the day delusional fans just can't scream and cry an idol sounds perfect dancing when they can barely project their voice in an encore just standing. it rips the Band-Aid off.
@@gg4taeny206 Yeah she is but an unfortunate mic choice and technique would emphasise that a lot. Like the e835 sounds always a lot less nasal all things being equal, but many people don't like it because it can sound harsh and lack 'presence', that's the tradeoff.
@@SianaGearz woah thankyou for the insight, I learned a lot
While i agree with your overall point I don’t think it’s a fair or even comparison to use Oh My Girl’s first win encore stages as a vocal comparison. They are crying their eyes out for their first win and an encore stage is not meant to be a faithful rendering of the song..
Didn't watch Queendom, but I'm glad someone makes videos with good examples as this.
As live vocals are really hard while dancing, it's kind of understandable a lot of idols lip sync. Specially when thinking of how perfect they are supposed to be.
I actually like performances with pre-recorded vocals and live voices on top; get to hear them live, while keeping some of the idols "perfectness" while moving.
Lovelyz literally are known to be live vocal queens so the fact that people turned on them so quickly even though it’s known that they’re amazing vocalists definitely hurt, especially since all of this then lead to their disbandment
Wow, thank for you making this video. I did have a feeling the "live" performances these days are too perfect, I knew live stages are usually heavily backtracked and auto-tuned, but didn't know there were so many lip sync. I do think a lot of the idols are capable of singing very well but their companies didn't let them to show their real talent.
Fans always claimed that their idols sing live and what not, but I don't think heavily auto-tuned with a loud back track is considered "live".
I watched all the preview stages of the Queendom 2, I think Hylolin did sing live and it wasn't heavily edited(?).
For those stages it looked like the only live vocals were Hyolyn (with a backing track she goes out of sync with briefly) before she moved on to Dally, which was synced like everyone else.
I been ptotecting & defending lovelyz in the comnent performances for the past 2 years , just because they lip sync once , they got bashed and hated from stupid knetizen , lovelyz does deserved apology
I'm relatively new to Kpop (started about 2 months ago), and my first impression about live performances was admiring how there seemed to be a relaxed standard where any of the performers could just choose to sing along with their respective part in the live track if they felt like it. Until I saw this video, I had no idea that this wasn't an open secret, and worse, that the fanbases can be absolutely vicious when they realize that the so-called "illusion" is broken (and I put illusion in quotes because I still feel like the smoke and mirrors tend to be so apparent that they aren't trying to fool anybody). Here's to hoping that the fanbase culture can change a little to be a bit more understanding; this whole mindset of putting people to the chopping block for the slightest issue can't be healthy for any of the performers.
The fact lovelyz one of the most stable voice girl group gen 3 T_T
bom was the only one who singed live every stage and still they ruined her stages with that autotune (not completely live because in 2 she used lip-sync)
I think they just turn off her mic in the mr parts where there should be layering. But I guess they decided just cut of that part cause.... I don't know.
I really think that was heavy post-production, so live for Bom and Mamamoo were different from what was shown. -_-
Mamamoo sing live...
@@basi2292 yupzzzz
@@basi2292 yes but not in every stage
@@didu4430 they sung live every stage tho…
What I don't like it's that even if we know all these idols are really good live performers, shows will autotune the sh*t out of it for the sake of a "perfect" show, it's a trend that sadly will never go away because newer groups usually are "forced" to lipsync since debut
The most impressive fact is MAMAMOO really is amazing live and actually pull off live performances but they need to show smth extra to make their stages more interesting as lipsync and hard choreographies have become a huge monetizing factor but they've my deep respect for still showcasing their vocals and they definitely deserved their win!
Actually the truth is almost all of the korean show touch up on the songs for broadcast purpose (I miss the good ol days when all shows & stages were aired without autotune. Guess this is what technology has brought us to...)
And for shows like this where they do covers, even on survival like Produce series, they always do a pre-record, especially since queendom actually released all the songs on music platforms. So when it's being broadcasted, mostly they just replace it with pre-recorded track. Especially with audience sometimes there'll be noises so they usually just mute the live audio entirely. At the end the only live audience can judge if they actually sang live on the stage.
Some of the live reference also is quite outdated, for example the lovelyz Ah Choo live are like few years before queendom aired date.
Honestly lovelyz has 2-3 members with weak vocals, but others have quite good live vocals, especially considering their songs are mostly super high pitched. I suggest everyone to search for their concert fancams online 😉 and mamamoo, word. Heard them in Kpop Concert live before, it's gorgeous af.
That's why fancam are superior
(G)i-dle did said that they’ve never lip synced except for their debut stage and they have no problem with live singing at all. I wonder if it’s Queendom doing or policy or sth that everyone has to have their stages “fixed” like this. Thanks for the video, it’s honestly hard to distinguish between autotune when sometimes I could still hear their breathing
I always thought most of the stages were live (some parts were obvious that it wasn’t) but after watching this I can notice the difference now. It definitely sounds too polished at times but I’ve always brushed it off, so thank you for making such an educational yet interesting video!
It's not autotune y'all, it's pre-recorded vocals. You should know what's the difference between the two.
the prerecorded vocals and live were touched up and thats what they mean
@@judithkim4050 yeah I agree, but not everybody understand. Read some comments and you probably noticed that they emphasized autotune and not pre-recorded and live.
Can u do this for Queendom 2 , i want to see analysis for all of the participants
so far the opening stages are all lipsync except for hyolyn (intro only). idk abt stage 1 but judging by the leak for stage 2 some groups sang live and not autotuned (yet?) some used pre recorded lipsync
Lovelyz basically have 2 main vocalists and 2 lead vocalists. They also have great acapellas.
they actually even have three official main vocalists
3 main vocals
4 main vocal for me
Mamamoo is the Queeeeeeeen you cant even find diffrnce between the autotune or live
The video says the differences
i dont mind mamamoo lipsync.. instead i want them to lipsync cause you know theyll mess it up and my girlies been singing live since debut
I AM SORRY I WAS CACKLING THE WHOLEWAY THROUGH
SPECIALLY THE
oh my boy?
binnie oppa
oh my girl sounds like they were gasping for their lives
hwasa realising she stopped too soon
Park Bom is an icon and she deserved better
I was an online viewer for the second stage of Queendom 2 and I'm eager to see how it sounds once it airs, because I didn't hear only perfect vocals, but it was ok, it was a bunch of really talented performers singing and dancing (and it wasn't live as in being performed at the moment, even for us it was pre recorded), though I think it will be a little tweaked for the official episode. I think for the first season it was the same and I think you say it perfectly at the beginning: it's about the performance as a whole (even though I would say the audio tracks on spotify/apple music don't sound the same as the performance on the episode)
24:33 Gidle don’t use the same recording for other live performance. Soyeon always live at the start of the song. Yes, they use their track but some parts they sing at the same time. For example Minnie can skip the highest note, but continues to sing the others.
Soyeon I think always raps by herself.
And I agree with the author, lip sync and pre-recordings is okay for shows like Queendom. Fans already know how their favourites can sound.
For live performances, where vocal is important, there are another shows
I think the backtrack was really loud on their queendom stage (maybe 70 or even 90%??) and there was probably autotune, but in a lot of the parts it did sound like they were singing over the backtrack.. u could hear in soyeons rap and some of the other parts when they had to take a breath, that the audio got quieter.. I wish the backtrack wasn't super loud tho, cuz it sorta ruins the point of singing live lol.. I don't mind backtrack as long as it's like... 30% or less... maybe 50% for difficult sections
@@universeinneverland2314 yeah, maybe. You know, When I watched the show, I didn't even think about whether all the groups sing live or not. But I really remembered one point then, made me pay attention to it. When Gidle performed Put it Straight while Miyeon sings, by choreography she raises her arms twice to mouth level. And there you can hear well that her hands cover her mouth, and she sounds as if she covered her mouth with her hands.
wow this is actually a really nice compilation of live performances by these groups! I didnt know so many of them were so capable since people rarely sing live (since dancing is hard)
Hmmm.. for Mamamoo actually all of your references are from their old performances. Their performance at Queendom was the same as their live concert which is with a live band, and it's from fancam, so there's no glossing for their vocal and harmonization.
In my opinion, all the Mamamoo highlights errors in the video, have already been fixed by them. Maybe everyone says I’m biased because I’m a moomoo but I compare it with the fancam. Same with “I Miss You” at the 2nd round, was completely different from the original audio which was released years ago, in terms of their vocal but same with Yu Huiyeol’s Sketchbook (search it, it's well known to have background music that not overpowered the singer and dingo’s video their latest “I miss you” live performance).
If everyone is still not convinced that I’m not biased, then let me highlight one of the examples that I noticed became their weakness at their early debut (because I compared it with their latest ver.), Solar at their debut, and a couple years later couldn’t reach high note without bend over her body but now she can do it while still standing straight.
My point is that even though I’m a moomoo, I will admit if they really did it and won’t say a word, but compare it with their older videos, c’mon you must be smarter than that.
And fyi I’m not playing dumb or attacking the video’s maker just simply saying to do more research before making a video like this (not only for Mamamoo), I’ve been a Kpop fan for a long time, actually, I'm more familiar with 2nd gen and 3rd gen, it makes me notice that some singer from 2nd gen can completely different and better at their vocal now than when they debuted (since some group from 2nd gen are releasing new album now, you can really notice the differences).
A singer who is growing but doesn’t fix their habit by practicing, I would say it’s odd, and not only for Mamamoo, it applies for all the singers in the world, so if their weaknesses are still the same when we compare it with their performance 10 years ago, then no doubt that he or she didn’t practice
Exactly, 4+ years apart seems unfair
I agree on this.
well i agree and a little bit disagree, i know what you mean, but i think the video's maker of this video just want to highlight when artist is using auto tune, lypsinc, or not, so he/she use the other video even if that years ago or not to show it. Wheteher its actually unfair or whatever you mean, but this is actually knowledge for fans so they dont just believe that if the idol always performs live, sometimes artist have bad days so their voices are also affected by that, and also this is a lesson for fans that autotune, lypsinc, or whatever, is not the wrong thing to do if the artist dont use it excessively.
but you are true tho, because rookie singer usually still need some exercise and lot of things to improve, and as time goes by and they often sing in many shows, the voice they have when they sing is really mature and good now.
@@virginia9560 I'm, saying because the maker highlighted the points that have been fixed but questioned it by comparing it with their older video, isn't it odd?
the maker also said that s/he won't say that "I miss you" that was performed at 2nd round was altered "be smart" s/he said. I know that so many shows use that tool and queendom is not the exception but saying "I miss you" wasn't real and it's fake then the maker should search more before making something like this.
Do you know what the scary thing is about social media? How it turned the mindset of people by just watching the content without searching whether it's true or not
An easy tell if an artist is lip syncing, is by looking at their throats, their facial expressions and their forehead. It tends to crinkle at certain notes. You can't fake breaths so it's a dead giveaway of lip syncing.
AOA Jimin's nasal tone is actually her charm tho , it's kinda sad not to hear them
ohhhh the bom acoustic clips make so much sense...when i heard her first of queendom, i was so confused at her voice, it just sounded so. wrong...like the autotune make it sound like the mic was constantly cutting out, i was like "wtf why is this woman singing like that" this makes more sense
Unrelated to singing again, but I like Yein's dance perf the most. Yooa's choreo is fire tho, I just think Yein execute the attitude better.
I feel bad for Arin. Her voice isnt that high so it must be difficult to sing high while dancing. I always treated the show as mixed lipsync so I just was confused when people were hating on some groups-
Also, its clear to me that some stages were prerecorded which mans they were singing and dancing at the same time, but then mixed with lip sync and live-
See, I've been sayinh this to many people from other fandoms who said Mamamoo didn't deserve their win, the main things of why Mamamoo won were 1. The live voters actually knows the REAL difference between the stages, mind you, live audiences were updating each other when the live shooting happened of which contestants might be high in ranking, most of the live audiences said they prefer organic performances, some other fandoms who were there actually never badmouthing mamamoo performances, they admit the beauty of live and engaging performances that mamamoo did actually more attractive than the too perfect performances that their own idols did.
2. Mamamoo song REALLY DID chart higher in the full specific week(I forgot the dates) that mnet chose as the determining dates to chose the queendom winner.
3. Yes, they did have one of the bigger fandom, not exactly the biggest though.
i realized i'm way too american when you said "live shooting" and I panicked
@@1luxaeterna u literally made me LOL at 3 in the fking MORNING
24:55 yep something about mamamoo is that they suck at lypsyncing moomoos get proud anytime they get better at it lol
This also happens in music show. Just because fans can hear their breath they think the idols sing live. No, they mostly use prerecorded and that is okay. Kpop fans expected such a perfect performance with live singing and perfect choreos which is impossible, please not everyone is beyonce. I only judge idols' singing skills only from their encore performance
I never noticed mamamoo's last performance was lip synced lol. Although they messed up I'm kinda proud they're getting better at it hahaha
During the show im pretty sure mamamoo did most live with bare autotuned
Only 1 stage of Mamamoo was all live with no autotune. But it was the only pure live stage out of all 6 groups in the entire freaking show so the bar is lower than the floor right now for idols
mamamoo did sing in live but the backing track was so loud. especially in destiny. that last episode was entirely live show
@@vadjulawakaru yes but i think their vocal still higher than the track compared to other contestant, and during destiny im pretty sure the did lipsync full from beginning to the end
@@hos6935 mamamoo don't know how to lipsync 😆 they did once in 2016
Well we all aready know it is prerecorded when solar almost fall and her shocked voiced heard while the prerecorded backtrack still going on. Like, she is proofing that there is indeed backtrack but they really sing live because there is still her shocked after fall voice.
The sad part is fans still wouldn't believe these were lip sync if the idols didn't mess up their lines...
Mnet is so funny coz why would you waste your time autotuning a mamamoo performance 😭😭
We should seriously just normalize making real and raw mistakes when singing instead of having to edit them so extensively in post production. Literally in Queendom 2 some rounds sounded so live and some sounded so edited or lip synced and the inconsistency was wild like here I really just want to hear their real voices at least most of the time. They can release a studio track of these covers and renditions after so we can hear them at their best it’s ok
I hope every companies will see this kind of video, so they won’t fool us again, we need their true live performance, not the ‘perfect’ performance
Yes 😭
idk what company started this but I absolutely despise pre-recorded live, it's like fooling the audiences that you're singing live when actually you're not. yes i consider this worse than lipsync.
@@AcMcMon yes, the worst part is when their fans believe that the artist singing live while they were not. I am not saying that pre-record is bad, but yeaaah just feeling dissapointed sometimes
Actually before mamamoo perform decalcomanie, they just finish their concert that is why there missing some verse, and also wheein said on the show that they're a bit tired. Mamamoo deserve the win.
Aside from this, Queendom was so iconic and the performances/songs were so amazing. So legendary
The season that all other queendom/kingdom seasons could not reach the popularity 🔥
Lovelyz never lipsync so how would they know how? 😭
Thank you Queen for making this! Super informative and fun to watch. Fingers crossed you'll be covering the second season as well! 💖
I really never ecpect this lol. Esp on park bom's voice, she's my bias in 2ne1 since 10 years ago because of her smooth vibrato, I was wondering throughout queendom thinking why her voice was not as smooth as I used to remember. Thank you for enlighting me
Thank you for this breakdown, it was very interesting! With how different it was for almost every stage and group I wonder what the reasons behind each of those were.
Gotta keep in mind Bom’s also went through a lot of body fluctuations throughout her career, not saying that excuses the autotune, more so the arrangement of song & her passion but tendency to strain while singing. Honestly I was still impressed with her raw vocals below the metallic autotune. I’m still morphs if her cause she really seemed she was there to prove herself and gain some confidence back in stage. She did really well despite the mistakes & the producers not adjusting the song to her current range. No comment on anything else, you’re very observant! Great video!!!❤
This was super interesting, thank you for all the hard work making it! I always have trouble spotting lip sync or not and I think this will actually help me.