Repeatable Rip Cuts with Track Saw
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- Woodworker Guy Dunlap demonstrates how to use the Parallel Guide System for quick, easy, and repeatable rip cuts with your track saw. Brought to you by Woodpeckers. Order online safely today! www.woodpeck.com/parallel-gui...
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I just bought these last night thanks to your review Guy!!
I also bought these guides based upon your review. Thanks.
Thanks for the video. This is the first time I’ve seen a video using the same setup I use; pink Styrofoam, Festool track saw and Woodpeckers parallel guide.
I took it a step further though to increase productivity;
I use the Festool T 55 cordless track saw; no cord, and no vacuum hose. I pair that TSO GRS-15 (One of the best tool investments I’ve ever made) for absolutely square cuts.
Killer set up!
Kevin Criswell I use the same, only BLUE Styrofoam!
That's not a bad setup. I've got the TSO GRS and the TSO parallel guides. I've had the festool parallel guides, which are a pain in the backside, and I have the Seneca guides. What sold me on the TSO parallel guides is the quick adapter. Rather than having to slide the guide onto the rail from the end and screw it down, I simply plop the guides down on the guide rail wherever I want them to be and when I'm done I pick them up. With the quick adapters TSO has got the best guides in my opinion. Their flag stops are super beefy, there's zero deflection.
Guy + woodpeckers = awesome!
I hope guy didn't have to waste his money
Can I used that in the guide of SP6000 Makita circular Saw?
when you are put the stop guides to each track you can easily be out one to the other 2/10 mm ? I take it all being well if you have this system you do not require a MFT table which I guess will do the same job? What do you think?
I’ve used both Woodpecker and Seneca. The Seneca requires Incra t-track and is a nice solution for simple cuts and works very well. I find the Woodpecker solution more tedious to setup than the Seneca option, but nothing outrageous just a few minutes longer, but you have more precision for cuts that are smaller or more difficult. To help, I would say if your just using your saw primarily to do rip cuts to take to the table saw, you don’t need either; if you are wanting your cuts to be accurate upon taking to tablesaw or don’t want to use a table saw but are looking for simple quick accuracy with fairly simple cuts, go Seneca and add Incra T-track, but if you are wanting smaller cuts or have difficult cuts from time to time, the top of the line is Woodpecker...it’s just that no everyone needs this accuracy if your just trying to make it more manageable for the tablesaw or don’t have a need for true precision and difficult cuts.
Rule in life applies - you get what you pay for
I haven't used the woodpecker guides but I have used the TSO guides. Once calibrated the TSO parallel guides are wicked accurate and the quick adapters are super convenient especially for small shops.
I'm still waiting for it to be compatible with Bosch/Mafell. Or is it?
Do you have the 1256mm rule, if so how straight is it?
When joining the graduated tracks together, other Woodpecker videos show the T-slot connector placed in the middle of the track on the under side. Wouldn't this be better than installing it on one of the upper side tracks as shown in this video? Seems like it would be a more sound joint and wouldn't interfere with the stops if you installed a stop in the same track as the connector.
Works either way. The engraved side of the track has two identical slots. Guy used one for the track connectors and the other for the stops. I usually use the centered track on the underside. Guy's method eliminates flipping the track back and forth when you're adding sections. In theory, the centered track should avoid misalignment better, but there's not much chance of a problem either way.
Where is the new version? What is the difference?
At 3:00 where you place the square.. at that against the metal or the plastic sacrifice strip?
Should be against the sacrificial strip. That is where the saw blade will be and that is what to calibrate against.
It is incredibly accurate. More I use it I think I can get it done within 1/1000 of an inch. Using it to renovate my house and cabinets around my house. I am not selling my house.
Thanks for your feedback!!!
Your cabinets would be accurate enough to launch into space.
Just wondering what the benefit is over my festool parallel guides and extensions. Thanks
Component based rail system has twice the width capacity of the Festool system, yet fits in a Systainer (the Festool one does not). Narrow rips are referenced from the normal side of the guide rail (Festool's works from the off-cut side). Multiple flip stops can be set up at the same time so you can cut two dimensions out of the stock without losing the other setting.
I can see how useful this add-on to track-saws can be. In my case, I use my track-saw to cut down large sheet goods to make it easier and safer to do final cuts on my table saw. I know not everyone has a table saw, so I can see the usefulness of this product.
What I would like to see is a subset of this - offer the track-attachments and rails without all the calibration or narrow-cut rods. I'd like one pair of rail-stops and two rails expandable to, say, 50", and the hardware to attach them to the track. That way i can repeatably make rip or cross-cuts of large sheets prior to table saw work.
Hopefully this would be a little more affordable for the job I need them to do.
Love my woodpeckers gear!
Here is another option: tsoproducts.com/tso-parallel-guide-system/ I believe they are going to have a rail attachment for long cuts.
I'm confused why you would use this for narrow stock. Is it if you don't have your main table saw? Like for an onsite contractor? I feel like I would almost always just use my table saw for this type of thing.
You're right. It's for those times and locations where you don't have a table saw available.
Thank you for your video. I looked through a whole bunch, but none showed hot to cut thin strips using the metal bars.
This must be for building cabinets for the international space station.
Holy mackerel. For the price of that gizmo you can almost buy a table saw. I recommend the “original waste side jig” from Peter Millard’s friend for a 10 spot. Or buy yourself a 3D printer and print one out. Still cheaper than that contraption. Woodpecker rocks but that price is ridiculous.
Is a track saw safer than a table saw?
i would say so, although a table saw is much more versatile if you ask me.
There are applications for both....for breaking down sheet goods the track saw is the best and safest
Now I know how to use mine... (The instruction manual that came with it is useless)
At 7:05 the track moved, why? What did the saw hang up on.
The hose on the track saw got caught on the back end of the track.
For narrow rips it's best if the track is held in place with clamps or rail dogs in an mft style top. The foam grippy strips on the underside of the rail aren't in contact with the material the saw is cutting.
Too expensive. But I like them.
I jut looked this up and it cost as much as a track saw and track... keep it!
It's a shame the setup is time consuming and the assembled clamps can't be stored in the Systainer. They look neat and orderly in the foam, but I would not look forward to the setup and calibration every time I took them out of the box. Although it appears some of the assembly was done off camera, it took Guy about three minutes to assemble and calibrate one clamp, or six minutes for the pair. That's a lot of time spent assembling each time the set is used. I would buy the set without the Systainer and leave the clamps assembled with the first rail, or buy the much less expensive Seneca Woodworking clamps.
Can Seneca be setup for narrow repeat cuts?
@@edgarcisneros6771 Yes, the Seneca guides come with a set of narrow stops that function similar to the Woodpeckers system and fit under the guide rail. I decided to buy the TSO Products parallel guide system instead since I already had the guide rail squares.
@@Mike--K
The TSO guides are super nice. And the quick adapters are great for quickly switching from a long guide rail to a shorter one. Pick it up and plop it down.
I’m new to festool. Is there a festool product that does the same or is buying a non festool product the only option ? Strange how theirs many products to use with festool, would think they would have covered those applications and make incredibly over priced items themselves.
Festool makes their own version of this.
Yeah, Festool has their own same track saw accessory. I think Woodpeckers and TSO Products have much better and easy to assemble ones than the Festool’s.
I hope you didn't get the festool parallel guides.
@@ThekiBoran No. I can’t imagine that I’m holding Festool parallel guides. I’ve just received my TSO ones. 🍾
@@beregu
Where did you get your kit? TSO is sold out. I got mine from US Tool and Fastener a week ago but I think they're now sold out.
Festool original accessory for the same purpose is cheaper.
The festool guides are too fussy. They have to be about a half inch from the edges of the material rather than supported on top of the material. Getting on and off the guide rail is also tedious. The narrow rip guides have to hang over the edge of the workbench or you have to set your guides, guide rail and material up on 6" of foam or whatever but then clamping becomes an issue. I sold my festool guides after they had sat on a shelf collecting dust for 3 years. At this time TSO has the best parallel guides available.
damm I think they are made of solid gold
I think the connectors should be on the bottom so that it’s centered
I don't quite understand why I would need this.
If you're a cashier at 7-Eleven you probably don't need these or any other brand of parallel guides. If you frequently need to accurately cut sheet goods you need these or maybe TSO parallel guides.
Fell asleep watching how long this takes, I guess two pencil marks are not quicker than 429 dollars
Chewy chalk line too, making life difficult
Chewy, yes, it takes too long to set up if one is only cutting one or two, if cutting say 6, 8, or more pieces which you want identical, it makes it a snap -- all without a table saw. If I'm at the shop, I'd prefer to use my big table saw, but on the job site, the parallel guides are great.
Chewy the rough carpenter?
I don’t care who you are - that’s funny.
Hey we made some brackets for your saw. For only 90% of what the saw costs!! WTF
Ahhh only 430 usd.........
So?
I may give you for free one 4 ft "Parallel Guided Power Saw" Look at it.
Bro almost $400…. Somehow Festool’s guide system is cheaper
Imperial.........:(
That product is available in both inch and metric.
@@WoodpeckersLLC Yes, why exclude basically the entire world by just offering imperial system.? :) Very good, thanks!
That has to be the biggest waste of money ever
The incra parallel guides are half the price less than half the price and probably more accurate less pieces
@@je9661
Fewer pieces.