How to Tile a Shower Wall...the Mixing Valve Wall -- by Home Repair Tutor
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 18. 01. 2016
- Today we're going to discuss how to tile a shower wall...specifically the mixing valve wall. How do you cut holes in tile for tub spouts and mixing valves? Should you lay tile directly on the tub or on spacers?
We answer all these questions in today's video...
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The first thing you should do when tiling a shower is figure out your layout.
Then you should tile the main shower wall, typically this is 5 feet.
We're tiling the mixing valve wall today and this presents some problems for most homeowners.
Particularly when it comes time to cut holes in the tile for the tub spout, shower valve and shower arm.
Using a laser level makes tiling a shower so much easier.
We recommend Bosch's laser level for about $79 (amzn.to/1SJdvjB)
Line up your first row of tiles on the mixing valve wall with the tiles on the main wall.
Steve has several tips in the video to make this look super professional and neat.
Always lay your tile on a 1/16" spacer, not the tub.
And leave a 1/16" gap between the main wall tile and mixing valve tile in the corner.
In this video we used Schluter edging instead of bullnose, it's way cheaper and more modern.
We waited to install the Schluter edging until finished with all the tile but made a pencil mark on the wall to indicate it's location.
Also, when you get to the tub spout you can transfer the dimensions onto your tile.
Use a carbide hole saw to cut the hole in the tile, again, Steve has several recommendations.
For the mixing valve wall you can use a 4 1/2" angle grinder and carbide blade (amzn.to/1RwqQN0) to cut a hole in the tile.
This can be dangerous. So use a wheel guard (unlike us), goggles, gloves, respirator, etc.
Watch the rest of the video to get all of our tips
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To make tiling easier try Tuscan Seam Clips (leveling clips) :
For tile 1/4"- 3/8" (blue) - amzn.to/2A6RQAh
For tile 3/8" - 1/2" (red) - amzn.to/2j41IQj
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Iâm tired of watching shower videos (mostly cause they stress the hell out of me) but once I start youâre videos I canât shut em off. A lot of great info here, keep em coming gents!
thank you
A tip for using the holesaw without the pilot drill. Take a piece of 1/4" ply, drill into it with the holesaw, place this template over where you need the hole and drill into the tile using it as a guide, no guessing where centre is and no skidding.
I was going to say that but you beat me to it. I was sliding all over the place until the light bulb went off.
Brilliant advice... Thanks for sharing that.
Cool tip.
Thatâs one of my biggest problems some
Days!!!!thanks guys
Really enjoyed your video. As a DIY'er, the dialog and the "over the shoulder" camera angle were incredibly helpful. You made my bathroom remodel so much easier!!!!
Hi I just found your videos recently. I spent 16 years in basement remodeling after starting my own basement finishing business. I left the industry for 4 years and quit the 9-5, back in home remodeling.
I love what I do again. Iâve since lined up 4 bathroom remodeling jobs and 3 are mud base pans. Iâve done my own tile work for 12 years prior in the basement business. Enough about me, but I love your videos and your tile partner is a real hands in pro. Awesome videos for us with experience but still needing to learn more. Your one of my favorite tile pros to watch and learn from.
Thank you for taking the time to post and help share your knowledge and work. Looking forward to watching more.
Dave
BDI Remodeling - Chicago
a very authentic tile contractor, no covering up real mess or perfect membrane cuts get 'er done this job looks awesome. He can cut holes in tiles for the faucet holes.
+Gordon Lam thanks, Steve definitely gets the job done and it looks pristine in the end. May not look pretty during the process but it works
Excellent videos! The best I have ever seen. You do not "assume" things that most other instructional videos do. The step-by-step process is extremely helpful! As someone who used to have a bathroom remodeling business myself, I can honestly say that I learn something from every one of your videos I have viewed. Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much/ Iâm excited to start practicing and go for it. I really appreciate the help.
Thank you for the videos! You kids are doing an amazing job!
The grinder technique for the valve was awesome Steve
Thanks Antonio
What I do to use the cheap hole bit is use an old tile and drill the hole in it. Then I use it to as a template for future cuts. Thanks for the helpful video.
Video was excellent, very informant, thanks for going step by step, easy to follow.
Brilliant tutorial, great production value, and off course, a damn good job on the tiling. Thank you :)
MrOwl1985 Want to see a real good tile setter check out Sal Diblasi on CZcams!
@@Dtileandremodeling Yes Sal is Great But this Guy Is a Master As well
I just another video of you guys demonstrating those clips.....ordered! Can't wait to try them and see how they compare to other systems I have tried...thanks
Hey Steve, you guys are great! As someone who teaches people too, except with dogs (you might know me from Animal Planet hosting Good Dog U) I really like the way you guys are so informative in your videos. This particular video is great as I am going to tile my shower this week. We are doing a niche, and doing the pebble floor... so that video came in handy as well! Thanks for all your help! The guys are tearing out the existing 4 x 4 tile, building up the floor of the shower etc, and getting me all set up to tile.
Really enjoyed your video.
+mirooo Vuujjj thanks
Great job; pretty efficient in his process. Clearly he's got a method/technique that keeps him moving at a good pace.
having a routine helps keep the tiling on schedule and definitely saves boat loads of time. Steve's been tiling for over 15 years and has learned tons of great skills that he's passing on, he's awesome
Thanks. Very informative
Thanks for that one tip on spacing between tiles and since one of my walls is closer to the hallway, I was thinking that it would need more room for expansion/contraction due to heavy traffic. Also, thanks for those safety tips on health (I too want to enjoy my retirement while not feeling I'm in an Olympic race). Lol! I use a mask whenever I can and cut outside. I don't want extra work either.
Great job in his process. Thank you
thank you, hope the tips help
This little czcams.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
Thank you, Adam and Steve :)
Steve is amazing and works real clean!
seriously?
Thanks for the great videos. Each time I CZcams a how to video you keep popping up. I enjoy your easy to follow style of teaching. Keep up the great work.
Some good tips there , thanks guys
Thank you for your videos....they have helped me so much!
Cool, happy theyâve helped! There are a lot more on Bathroom Repair Tutor
Home Repair Tutor i will be checking out your other videos.
High quality video thanks...subscribed!
Now that I know how it's done professionally! I can try to do a simple repair without damaging a great initial job.
Rene Andersen ă°ïž
Nice Job, very informative
I love you Steve. You are awesome. Talented.
Excellent video.
Oh yeah love what you do a blessing.
Thank you for your detailed explanation. I had someone start my shower and never came back. I think I can finish it after watching this!!
Great tips, thanks for sharing đđđ
That's beautiful video alaide samples in Everything I do
Great job I believe itâs better to wait for muddy until you cut tile and you missed to cover bathtubs.this is not easy job you did very good thank you very much for all details
really good job, perfectly explained, and interesting tips. he is reckless about safety but it makes it fun to watch lol
+Ivan Fernandez lol, we're working on getting Steve a safety kit. Thanks for the kind words and hope the video helps you đ
bro i saw that he was missing the tip of his finger and im like....yup lol
Thanks I learned some great pointers and I feel ready to tackle my shower tile project!
Great Job
Thanks Steve!
Very good job!
See your using the Kerdi system. Love that product & company. Makes doing bathroom etc...really "easy" if know what doing. Compared to other ways, do like the Kerdi products they have.
GREAT VIDEO!!!! At around 16:35 minutes into the video, the captions say "indistinguishable". What he actually said was "on a Delta valve..."
Excellent video...Thx.
The details ae great!!!!!
Love your videos
home owner must have been excited that Jim Thome was doing their tile work!
excellent up! ty
liked how to do the holes makes it much easier when you got all the right tools and its your profession not many diyers got the tools
good video thank you
im a do it yourself . this dude is so far the best for working and teaching , thanks to both of you
Love it. Good stuff.
Great video, I noticed that you use non modified thin set mortar on the Kerdi install so it will stick to the backing do you also use non-modified thinset mortar to install the tile?
Good video overall. One problem though. He states to butt the tile tight in the corners- wrong. You need to leave some gap for expansion/contraction, even if itâs only a 1/16â.
One other thing, I donât know about other tile setters, but I donât use a notched trowel to butter the back of the tile. A skim coat is all thatâs needed- wet to wet. Two notched surfaces is a boat load of thinset.
we should have clarified that and referenced the TCNA handbook. Yes, at least 1/16" to 1/8" expansion/contraction in corners or any change of plane
1.2 million views! Incredible.
The other day I changed the light bulb in my bathroom. Tomorrow... I'm redoing my bathroom floor, putting up a tub and putting tiles all around. But seriously, I'm a DYS and after watching your videos and adapting them to my needs and skill level, I'm confident I can do this. And hopefully, there will not be a visit to the emergency room this time.
eddie rospigliosi - Maybe next time, dry your hands before changing the lightbulb!
nice work
thank you
Great job explaining the Schluter system and how to tile a shower/tub wall. I saw a few of your videos and did my own large tile install with mosaic accents and it came out great. Schluter is great and easy to use. Thank you for the videos!
Have one question... Should I paint before I tile the floor or afterwards? I'll be using Ditra for the flooring.
schluter is ugly and tacky
Yyyyooooo that was an amazing video thanks
Very nice
Great video! Love the 'burgh accent
It's a Delter faucet đ
Love from Cleveland
This is a very well done tile installation video, using clips, horse shoe shims, and the correct tools. Great job explaining everything and great job SHOWING how it is done. hope you keep getting lots of hits!
+Douglas Payne thank you, appreciate your kind words
people using horse shims for installing metal heavy doors not tiles
Thanks
great vid
love this
+Dave Lewis thanks, hope it helped đ
thank you!!!!
Can you give me some advice about how to use this system and seal a 1 1/4" pipe? The Kerdi pipe seal only comes in 1/2" and 3/4". Thanks.
Thank you for all the tips tiling a bathroom I have a question I will use a 3" x 6" white color tile what spacer size typically is used for this type of tile?
man I thought I was liberal with the mud... hahaha nice job making me feel ok about my own work đ
I luv the part at 19:40 where you have thinset all over the tile, the tub, your hands hahahaha reminds me of the old days when i did this stuff. lol
Cool tips! A lot of it I had heard from my tile instructor, which is good ⊠that means we got systems that work! And as it is a little slow right now Iâm getting some good learning to keep my muscle memory strong! Thanks⊠question he snuck the schluter in ⊠does that mean the thunder was still wet behind the tile ? So was this a one day job? (The back wall) how many hours?
Steve, referencing the video at 13:35 -- I can see how the Schluter Kerdi board on the shower wall warps/bends as you push to set the tile. I've always been concerned about the rigidity of these products (Wedi as well) and if they provide sufficient support for the tile installation. After all that work, I wouldn't want to lean on the wall while taking a showed and loose a tile or two. What's your take on these backboards vs the fiber cement HardieBacker board, or even cement floating the wall? Purely in terms of longevity and durability of the installation, waterproofing aside.
Firms up and gets rigid once thinset dries. As long as you have good coverage by collapsing the ridges your good.
Thanks guys very good video đč đ đ
Thanks buddy đđŒ
where do you get the cheap circle drill bits and what spacers do you prefer?
just wanted to confirm the hole saw, the diamond hole saw and using tile bit to drill pilot hole ? correct? and do you recommend non-modified thin set or regular thin set and a brand that you recommend for non-sag mortar?
Great, excellent explanation take care.
thank you
good video !
+Scott O thanks đ
welcome
@@sg0940 little tip don't let him near power tools or your home one not hater just blown away by his cavalier attitude to safety ..
What do you fill the empty space behind the big shower valves with? Mortar? Silicon? Grout? Tile adhesive?
Iâm in Texas Iâm a licensed master plumber. I just opened my company in 12/2019. Here recently my customers have wanted me to tile showers, tubs etc. Iâve watched your videos. Truely awesome by the way. I just bought a wet saw. Trowel for Tile. Iâve tiled with my brother. He at one time use to tile with his father in law. My questions how do I figure out starting point? How much tile? Best dry cutter for tile?
Best dry cutter I know of for tile is an angle grinder with a diamond blade
Hi Steve what kind of glue did you use on this job.
do i need a waterproof stuff in between the dry wall surface and the new tiles backing?
Very cool guy
I didn't catch when to use the bright metal spacers or the black spacers. Did you discuss when to use which? and what are they called when one goes looking for them at a retail store?
Good video and I learned a lot. Thank you!
Hi is that a tile spacer or a tile levelling system? Looks like it does both.....would love to know where you purchased.....great video btw.....thanks!!! The purple things that you click or snap together
I'm not using a guard or wearing gloves an a dust mask until Steve does! đ€Ș
Vera 1957 - But he is a pro and so doesnât need them!
can you please give the name of the kinds of mother, and the thin set compound you used.
Which thinset did you use? Seems like it has a generous working time.
Fantastic video ...What kind of spacers are you using :)?
+Joel Theriault thank you, spaces are 1/16" horseshoe shims and tile leveling system consists of Tuscan SeamClips đ
Thank you for your videos. How do you layout the tile in a shower 38 depth 54 inch back wall and 38 again if using a 12 x 24 tile. I can't seem to figure out the best layout, do I do 1/3 or half or straight?
Good question, you could make a template of the four sides with cardboard or plywood strips then lay that on the tile; 1/3 offset is best for 12x24 to minimize tile lippage at grout joints
What adhesive did you use with these tiles?
thanks, very informative video ! You didn't want to use Schluter inside corner accessory? (instead of caulking)
+Robi Janez we might down the road, I like the concept as it eliminates the use of caulking which always goes bad
Great video! Thanks!
Music-Cool...what is that, âStarsky and Hutch themeâ?
Why did you use membrane for the mosaic? Isnt the kerdi board waterproof?
Regarding the manual tile cutter: Do you recommend a specific brand? Whatâs the appropriate technique in using it? 1 or 2 passes with light pressure?
Yes, there are many great brands but the two we like are Montolit and Ishii. The Montolit Masterpiuma series is great and the Ishii Big Clinker is fantastic. The scoring wheel is very important and needs to be sharp. Light and consistent pressure with 1 or 2 passes should suffice on most tile. Here's a link to the Masterpiuma goo.gl/WCj5x3 and one for the Ishii Big Clinkergoo.gl/RyWFrp
What kind of tile cement where you using...did you say non-sag compound?
What do you use between to tub and the tile? Schluter edging? Caulk? Grout?
Hey guys, do you have any tutorials on pricing such jobs for small contractors ?
How long can the thinset be exposed after being troweled on to the wall? It seems like it would start to dry rather quickly, effecting the bond. You guys cut tiles as you go, leaving the thinset exposed...of course as I type this, I realize you have to cut as you go because the pieces will all be slightly different. How long in real time did it take to tile the mixing valve wall? I love your videos, very clear and informative. Thanks
good questions and the pot life of each thin-set is a bit different. That said, Ardex X77 is the thin-set we used and we applied it to the wall as we tiled. You can safely finish a plumbing wall without the X77 skinning over but if it does, simply mix up another batch. It will take each person different amounts of time to do the mixing valve wall but Steve did it in 1.5 hours, primarily due to filming ;)
Supper bro
excellent video. how do install the kerdi orange stuff to seal around the tub, especially the leg or vertical area?
+CeramicTilePro LLC thanks Jason for asking, we adhere to Schluter installation instructions by applying KERDI-FIX to the gap then embedding KERDI-BAND to that and unmodified thin-set on the first 3â of the KERDI-BOARD.
This video shared that method
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