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- Hey Gang! In today's video we're teaching you everything we know about tiling a shower wall. Not just how to make it look good, but how to not get frustrated along the way. Tiling is all about the small details, in the work yes, but also in the way you're setting them. Staying clean, organized, and having a proper functional layout can make or break your shower job.
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good stuff. Might want to discuss about making sure you always order extra tile. Being 1 or 2 short and then you go to buy another box and it either doesn't exist anymore or the color is slightly different. (plus you always want a few extra to sit in the attic for the next owner to find 30 years later. :-) )
Lol yep
You should always order 10 to 20% extra depending on pattern and layout
I've found those tiles!
It's better to have extra tiles and not need them, then need them and not have them. Lol
I’ve always bought 10% over, for some reason because my brain doesn’t account for areas that give you 2 cuts from 1 tile I always end up with excessive overage
Professional tile setter for 20 years. Couple of points.
1. As mentioned by others the top tile on the left wall should be two tiles to match the pattern, although I suspect with your
attention to detail and perfectionism, the next video will be you realizing you oopsied.
2. When doing the layout, if you are using a pure white tile, the thin strip of the tile at the top will disappear visually speaking, when it is grouted with white grout. With a patterned tile perhaps not so much.
That isn't to say you shouldn't have done your layout this way, as it gave you full tiles at the top and bottom of the niche.
The expression I have come up with is that tile setters are trying to create the "veneer of perfection" (all you Frasier fans should take a drink
at this moment!) You can't create perfect but you want the observers eyes to land where you want them to land and not see the fact that
the tiles are not full tile at every wall which would be true perfection. (in 20 years that has only happened once for me). Having full tile at the
top and bottom of the niche draws the eyes. Perfect.
3. When I tile with kerdi, I scratch coat the wall and trowel the notches onto the back of the tile. I find it is less messy. I scratch coat the whole
wall all at once, even if it dries, thin set adheres to itself really well. I trowel the thinset on the back of the tiles out from the center so that the air
still can escape out the grooves. After some practice I can spin up to a 2'x2' tile on my hand (like a pizza) and trowel with the other, or place on
clean water bucket and trowel away.
4. When cutting out the square for the tap hardware, start on the face side. You may need to get a better grinder wheel that cuts cleaner.
I have found some of the best wheels at rental stores. $20 Canadian, can't remember the brand and the name has worn off the wheel.
Tiled 50 bathrooms with 1 grinder wheel and a tile cutter like yours. As well I use a wet diamond pad, about the size of a drywall pad.
Again I think they are in the $20 range. I would go to a tiling supply store if you don't already. They should have them. They
are relatively inexpensive and do the same as your file to smooth the edges, but if you ever get into mitering corners they help a great deal.
As well you can use them to clean cured mud off of your tools to get them back to shiny.
5. Ideally you want the wall tile to land on your sill but with the stone slab that makes the point moot.
6. I have only ever had one hole saw to do the shower head pipe and it is about 1 1/4", Again I don't think too expensive at a tiling supplies store.
7. Keep up the great work. I have learned a lot of fantastic info from you about other aspects of construction. Your skills are what got me
to start watching your channel, your humility keeps me watching!
Feel free to pick my brain if you want on tiling questions
Super appreciate that 👊👍. I noticed the top tile when we did the outtro 😡. Last tile…. Not thinking it through…. Working till 7pm… all the excuses right 👊👍
@@StudPack That's why I always...ALWAYS stop at 6:59 ;)
I wouldn't call the 5 inch cut at the top a thin strip
@@markme4 I think he was referring to the thin sliver at the top they would have had if they hadn't split the top and bottom tiles.
@@isaacholzwarth Yea you're probably right but that looks like it would have been 4 to 5 inches as well
If there are any DIYers out there who skipped to this video, without watching the others, you will miss the most important aspect of tiling, and that is prep. Paul’s tile goes on so nicely because he spent so long making sure he had a flat square and plumb surface to attach it to.
In my early years I learned this the hard way. Rushed the set up because I thought I was good enough to fix/hide/cheat any problems I would run into. One client, one shower changed that way of thinking. I'll never forget it. That day I learned a lesson and went from pro to expert at that moment when I knew i'd always spend more time prepping than laying from that job on.
@@ProToolsApproved Yep. Tile stobbornly refuses to bend! Great that you got the lesson, though. As I’ve gotten older, and I am almost 56 now, I have come to regard these as “kick in the ass” moments, which I recognize faster, learn the lesson, and welcome the next one.
Well you can prep all you want like my husband did and then when the tiler's came in they made a worse mess than what he'd already tore out. There was no waterproofing before and they still didn't waterproof it in the new installation.
There is no grout in the walls they used clear silicone with white porcelain...? I have two standing 1/8 inch deep puddles 4 inches away from the drain hole..?? The uprights for the shower slider doors half on porcelain half on plasterboard. The tiles on the wall one foot by 2 ft some hang an eighth of an inch out over the tile below and others are the opposite. And up to half inch gap in bottom corner tile just filled in with silicone. The list goes on.
Now my husband's a disabled veteran that's why it took him so long to tear a small 6x9 bathroom apart, and it was supposed to be a present for him. Bottom line is... it must be all tour back out and redone floor to ceiling. The help he got was from family who has been building homes for three generations. So much for family and all that love. You should see the let down in his eyes,.. it's heartbreaking.
Every video is from this start forward. Prep is hardest, most important, and most of the work
Sooooo True
Such an awesome series! As a fellow CZcamsr I have just one recommendation - maybe put all of these videos in a playlist so they're easier to find. Took me a bit to sift through and find each new step in the series because of the other vids in between.
There may be a billion videos on tiling, but not many I’d rather watch than STUD PACK! Thanks, guys!
man, this is like getting a master class in stuff like this... thanks guys.
Love that you went into detail about the thinset, directional trowel methods and airflow. Lots of channels never teach the why behind the how. Thanks!
I can’t tell you how much I love this channel. Paul, you have a real gift for teaching, you’re detailed, clear and concise. Thank you.
Thank you sir 💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
And he has a wonderful personality! 👍
I agree completely and wanted to add that the detail comes through well due to the sincerity of the presentation and passion that Paul brings to it. Well done guys.
You can also add an accent band or stripe (pencil tile) to make the layout work .both of those holes look great from my house 😁
Great way to avoid slivers
Good idea.
Personally I always assumed the reason tile companies sell tiles with dimensions slightly less than 1 or 2 foot is to compel us to buy accent strips. ;)
I would probably just open the grout lines like 1/16? to keep a full tile at the bottom and eliminate the sliver. Or possible try to factor that in when determining the slope of the pan. There’s so much to think about and everyone has different taste. That’s what I love about tiling.
Had to pause the video and write this comment. Of course I’m going to learn something on this video. You’re one of the only ones on here that really explains technique the why’s of everything you do. You make it easy to follow and entertaining as well.
As a builder it's refreshing to see other builders take pride in their work and pay attention to detail.
You could use painters tape to lay out the lines with the speed square on the front side of the tile. Then cut with the grinder from the front side and inside the tape line. The tape won't mark the tile and it helps prevent too many chips.
This has been the single most informative and helpful tiling series I have ever watched. I very grateful for all your advice and willingness to instruct.
I love your videos. I'm learning as fast as I can, tiling a master bath walk-in shower with 12 x 24 tiles, and pebble floor, now. One thing that I learned that you don't have in there is to put the leveling system Ts behind the ledger strips so that the bottom tiles can be leveled when they are installed. Don't forget to lower your ledger strips the appropriate amount to make up for the additional height that the Ts add to the ledger. Also, be sure that you put the Ts in all of the correct places for the tiles to be installed above and below.
I like that you show the tips and tricks for people who have never done this before at all. Too many youtube videos assume a much greater level of experience in construction than a lot of us actually have...
I am a Northern California Contractor specializing in Kitchen/Bathrooms. This guy has obviously been doing this for a long time and has gained the knowledge & experience required to teach. He even explains "cheats", tips & tricks that will prevent failures. Guessing, not unlike myself, he never gets a callback/complaint from his clients. Great work buddy! I wish I had a Father to teach me before I entered the trades alas, I had to learn it the hard way. Also - the creation of the tile leveling system is/was a godsend.
I wish I could go to home depot and ask them I need a stud pack tile project. And they will have all the stuff you showed ready to pick up. Great job guys
So nice to see the respect you 2 have for each other as father & son while you work together.
Your wife and mom must be so proud.
Super rare
10:11
To avoid voids you should grab some more thinset with the notched edge of the trowel and then trowel the wall. This will create larger thinset lines without any voids, and will provide more coverage. It's also faster than skim coating over voids and troweling over it again.
Wow. I've watched a number of very good videos on tiling, but you are so thorough, showing, discussing and explaining every aspect of the job, I feel like I'm there with you learning as you do it. Combine that with your knowledge, expert technique and attention to details to all aspect of the work/job is incredible. Very glad I discovered your channel.
I've been in the trades for over 50 years (Framing, Finish and custom oak stair builder). You guys are really awesome. I love the videos and I love that you are taking the time to teach generations of DIY'ers ...Kudos guys.
Another option which I like is to have a horizontal strip mid wall of a contrasting title that's 3,4,6". That allows me to always have a full tile at the bottom and cut a little off the tile at the ceiling. Plus the contrasting strip is always going to be seen as a more custom job, higher value.
I like that that doesn't leave a cut tile at the bottom that's difficult to silicone.
Best tiling video I have ever seen, thank you!
I personally get a little laugh because when I was a contractor, especially with tile, I never got to go home as clean as you guys lol. Great work and very informative video. Thanks for sharing the art and precision that goes into these jobs
Number one tip I've got from this series is cleaning the edges with a margin trowel before installing each tile. Seems obvious now, but it never occurred to me when I did my shower. Spent a *lot* of time cleaning out the joints before grouting. 😞
Great content as always, gents. Keep up the good work!
You don't need a margin trowel, just use the corner of your half inch trowel. One less tool to keep in the tight space.
Just clean the joints with a pick or pencil as you go.
It's always the little things that make or break the project, Paul covers them all.
Using a thinset (available in white) and grout of the same color saves a lot of work there....
I actually use one of the wedges for the leveling system to clean it off.
Fantastic stuff. Getting ready to tile a kitchen wall, floor, and two bathrooms. Should be fun times! Thanks for all you two do.
This is literally the best Tile tutorial video I’ve seen. Hoping to tackle a tile project soon now.
You have the best home renovation videos I have ever seen! Super clear video and commentary, tons of tips, perfect pacing, and high quality workmanship that I want to replicate. I even like the background music. :) I'm starting a full bathroom renovation soon, a hired crew will be doing most of the work but I'll be tiling. I have tiling experience but all of the great tips are going to help me be more efficient. I was especially interested in the tips to orient the direction of troweling to create the shortest channels for air to escape and (from another video) using a microfiber towel instead of a sponge to remove grout haze. Congratulations for being only the second content creator I have ever subscribed to.
S.P., I love how y'all are really zero'ing in on anticipating questions. Example, the leger, exactly when I was thinking about the screws holing the ledger board, y'all said you'll patch them with a little curdy as you do the bottom course. Very cool!
Got to add, once of the best shower tiling videos I've seen. One of your best as well, IMSHO. Very inspiring, considering I've got a master suite I really need to get to. Thank you again.
Hire the Stud Pack!
@@moneyfornothing3264 Distance and Money.
I live in N. Texas, and budget constraints push to DIY. FWIW, I'be already built furniture, cabinets, electrical, some plumbing, and have done siding on the house.
Tiling and some of the finer finishing things are left to be personally explored. But I will get there. SP has really helped.
What a find! So glad I found your channel! Your tips I've learned have worked fanstastic. Thank you for all around being a joy to watch and packing so much into your videos.. The uplifting demeanor you both keep, the editing, shots and staging.. The effort all in all.. It shows and really makes all the difference! Keep up the excellent work guys 💙
Great job man. Been doing this 20 yrs. Yur one of the best.(details) . You knowledge and your ability to see the next step is amazing.
I find it very satisfying to watch the transformation step by step. I’m such a nerd.
I like your idea of laying the tile out on the floor is sure simplify’s the process. Great video as usual!!!
9:20 I think that you do a really good job of explaining the process in a way that I intuitively connect to. Good Job!
Loving this series guys!
Awesome video guys. I always enjoy and appreciate your details on the jobs you are doing. Makes me want to keep doing home improvements. Thank you.
You guys rock, thank you for putting out quality content. Paul is a badass teacher and Jordan you’re doing great at capturing it all and asking the right questions and putting it all together. You guys are building an encyclopedia of diy help for all of us who aren’t familiar with the tasks, keep crushing!!!
Great team and brilliant work.
These videos are truly instructional. LOTS of information and detail. Having done some tile work (not very well) I have learned much detail on the "proper" way to do things. Keep up the excellent work!
These step-by-step instructions are the best. Just what we need!!!
Love the vid & how thorough you are & explain things!! It looks great, can't wait to see it all finished!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I don't think I'll ever try this stuff, myself, but I love seeing your work, your method for teaching, and your explanation of the full process PRIOR to starting it. I think a lot of DIY channels could learn a thing or two from your presentation!
Nice job Paul, you’re a natural in front of the camera and it’s really great to see a perfectionist doing this type of work. Well done!
I love the pride you take in your work. Outstanding work.
I'd love to see how you clean your tools after tiling. My way is a lot of work and I'm always thinking there has got to be a better way.
I would like to thank you guys for the advice you give. Even though I live in New Zealand and some codes are different the tips are useful. I consider my self to be handy, but not a professional, in most things. I find your channel helps me to try different techniques.
You have a talent that not only makes you an income but also saves you a heap on your own projects around your house and property. I also have to mention that guy who controls the video, umm oh yeah Jordan lol, hey buddy great work. Together you make a great team, keep it going, it's an awesome youtube channel.
Anyway from a kiwi viewer thank you both for the tips and good luck going forward.
DIY-ing my own tile shower tomorrow and I can’t thank you enough for all this great information! THANK YOU STUD PACK! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
You're welcome Ryan! Thx for the support and best of luck with your project 👍
16:35 Love the little "oop" on the missed set. Great videos!!
Hey studpack!!! Great video as always!!!
20:14 I do a diff process once in while when measuring this. I take another tile and come from other side and overlap first tile and make marks…. Just shows more than one way to do things; but, your way means holding 1 tile, and the way I do requires 2 tiles😉
Nice job on set his shower, and aren’t snap cutters just awesome. Imo, they get a bad rap and ppl think need wet saw for cutting tile, b7t even a cheapo $25 snap cutter can do a descent job, if got those skills👍🏻
Cheers✌🏻
Slivers are our enemy! Great video guys.
We beat the slivers, but fought the tile saw 😭are you still rocking the D36000? appreciate the support man 👊
@@StudPack The D36000 is the best out there across the board, but the D24000 is awesome also. You guys will love it compared to that Kobalt! Check out contractors direct for best prices out there 👊
Great video guys! Tile looks great!
Thank you sir, I’ve watched a lot of these and I’m definitely following your step by step when I do my bathroom
Beautiful job! I’m not a tiler but have a couple of comments about leveling clips. If you install the wedges pointing toward the already laid tile, it will pull the tiles tight against the clip and the already laid tile. But, if pointing toward the tile being laid, they have a tendency to push the tiles apart and can widen the grout line. Also, when putting the clips in on your last row for the day to come back to the next day, be sure that the wedge is tight against the tile otherwise if there is thinset atop the wedge it won’t pull the tiles even the next day. I insert a small piece of cut-off tile and insert a wedge to hold the cut-off, the tile and the leveling clip in the proper alignmentfor the next morning. It’s a pain to have to cut out the thinset and leveling clip the next day because the clip isn’t up against the tile laid the day before.
Quote: But, if pointing toward the tile being laid, they have a tendency to push the tiles apart and can widen the grout line. That is an issue I have not seen addressed anywhere. I've the wedges put in from tiled previously laid, to the new tile. There has been a time or two when it caused the grout line to open, and I had to fuss with it to make it right. I'll keep your idea in mind. Thanks.
@mic dundee I install the wedges using the pliers tool that is made for installing them and then use a soft white mallet to break the clips and wedges off the next day.
My wife discovered the problem with the wedges spreading the grout line. She makes sure the grout lines are all the same width, that the tiles are level in all directions and that there is no lippage. She also takes a bright LED light to painted walls and marks any areas needing touch ups or more of my attention. Teamwork!
That was GREAT! I did mine already and I did it 90% like you said, but I didn't know to clean the thin set on the edges before setting, so I had to clean out the squeeze out by hand before grouting. That would have saved me. I have one comment on layout. Use can also use a horizontal accent stripe at about eye level to get rid of slivers at the top.
I’ve found that a popsicle stick is great for cleaning the thin set from between the tiled when the thin set is fresh…A DYI FYI
This is some of the best tiling content on CZcams. Thanks!
Master craftsmen at work. Great content, great delivery. 🤛
QUESTION....Was the neich's location planned according to the size of your tile? or did you just get lucky that it lined up perfect?
Yeah, how to determine the placement of the niche would be very helpful. When I did my shower I placed mine where I felt it was most functional and aesthetic but it caused all sorts of problems when it came to tiling around it. It’s probably the most amateur part of the job I did:(
You have to plan it out before hand. When the old shower is demoed you just determine roughly where the top of you pan tile will be mark a line and figure out the best height for the niche. Doesn’t have to be perfect. You can be off a 1/4 or so and adjust your tile accordingly.
Yeah a little of both. We installed the niche just above our grab bar blocking (as low as we could) then adjusted the tile layout to accommodate the niche. Hope that makes sense 👊
@@StudPack Thank you.
A lot of times we will hold off on installing the kerdi niche until after the walls are up and a good portion of the tile is set. We then cut out for the prefabricated niche, install and water proof. Then we can continue with completing the tile install.
That last tile on top by the soffit should've been two pieces. As you can tell I'm very anal when laying out tile. I use the same wedges , makes for a perfect surface. Thumbs up !
I didn't even notice until I read your comment. Good call. One of those things that would drive me nuts later every time I saw it.
Nice catch
I saw that when filming the outtro and my heart sank 😡😡😡. That’s what I get for working till 7pm 😣
Great teaching. Thanks a lot.
So happy I found your channel. Great content and love the thorough explanations. We're building a house right now and these are super helpful for the jobs I want to tackle myself.
Something I personally do if I'm cutting out the middle of a tile, I use a cordless grinder (so I don't kill myself) and hold a damp sponge against the side of the blade as I cut. You can squeeze out a little bit of water as you go which helps the cut and keeps the dust down. My blade always chips slightly on the inside of the cut so I just rotate as I'm going keeping the finished edge on the outside of the blade. Done this with porcelain too and it works well for small cuts.
I love watching your videos!!!! The way you explain things, and the patience. The whole team seems to be truly enjoying making these videos. You also don't do not come across a know it all. KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK!!!
Great DIY tips and tricks and I loved the fact that it's step by step without background music blasting. as we've seen from other home repair workers.
Alternatively, I read that "redgard " waterproofing, can be skimmed or painted on, before the adhesive or mortar, as you've seen because all tile work eventually develops cracks behind it that allows water seepage and redgard or any waterproofing membrane prevents or eliminates that nightmare of extra work 5 or ten years in the future. Excellent video and although I've been doing repairs for half of my life, it's always important to see the proper ways and mistakes to avoid time lost, which, as we've all seen, can never be returned.
Awesome! Thank you guys! Step by step! I love it! You both are awesome teachers!!!
Saturday Breakfast & Studpack. A great way to start the weekend!! Keep Up The Good Work!
Excellent show. Love the tips & explanations
Very nice guys! Looking forward to the next one and then the glass surround!
Looks great you guys and excellent tips on the layout 👍
Always amazed me how tile guys get it done. You got a great son and you guys make up a great team. Keep up the good work
Your videos are always informative Thanks so much for sharing your Skills!!!!
Excellent video! Great job!
After watching this awesome video on how to install tile I felt like I could tile the world. Then I started tiling and man it's tough. I managed to complete the shower but it was not that easy as a beginner. Thank you for showing such detail. Next time it should be easier on me.😐
Excellent work and education guys, great editing and music added. You guys are total pros.
Really look forward to your videos guys! Thanks for another great one.
Excellent tutorial. Really easy to understand. Love the techniques.
Great idea on the no sliver points looks great
Absolutely worth a like and subscribe!
Handsome man knows how to take it all the way to pro level. Artistic.
Pro level stuff again! Definitely learn something again!
Great quality work guys the bathroom is going to look superb thanks for the great tips
I really appreciate your videos. We had two bathrooms remodeled to include walk-in showers using the Schleier Kerdi system. The videos really helped me to know what to look for. Plus, we have another house in need of replacing a cheap manufactured walk-in shower enclosure. I am confident I could take on this project using the same system. It may not turn out as great looking as yours or the ones the pros doubt I can get it to be close enough for a third bathroom in an older home. Thank you!!!
Beside being an excellent instructional video, it shows a loving relationship between a father and his son-don’t see that at all nowadays. God bless you both.
Great tips for getting a clean tiling job, the easier way. Loved all the information and reasoning you give - I learned a lot! Great series!
You are very good at teaching! Easy to understand, logical progression, even explaining the reasonings, using a minimal amount of words! Great job!!!
A brilliant run through, thanks for teaching an old sparkie how to tile with style.
Great job guys.
Amazing work guys 👍🏻
You guys are awesome! Thanks so much for teaching as you go. I have learned a ton!
Always love to watch a good tiler work. You explain everything well and speaking with a clear voice.
Wow I love the wedge system and we are definitely going to use that system, outstanding and some of your tricks too.
Thank you sir, your imperfection makes it perfect!
Paul, I have learned so many tips and techniques from you. The thing that is very hard to teach, you do very well, and that is inspiration and work ethic. I don’t see how anyone could watch your channel and not be motivated to improve their work ethic.
Most comprehensive tutorial I have ever seen. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Your the first tile person that I see using straight collapsing channels of thinset. Almost never see anyone doing tile the right way. When I tell people about trapped air I usually show them by dropping a coin on their tile floor using the hollow sound to show voids. Really appreciate the professionalism.
One tip I learned the hard way is make sure there’s no drafts in the room or your Thinset will skin over super quick. There is a HVAC supply vent in the small bathroom I’m working in and I believe the A/C was sucking moisture outta the air and causing it to skin over way too fast resulting in subway tiles that didn’t adhere. Also good idea to soak them if they’re ceramic so they don’t pull moisture out of the top layer of the Thinset too quickly
Nice video. A couple of genuine guys doing a genuine days work. Lovely job
Great job guys... I love watching your videos. I like that you even show the mishaps that most amateurs make. My wife saw me watching this shower series and now she wants to do the master bath. The projects never end at home, do they?
Love all the tips & tricks that you provide WITH an explanation as to why, this is very valuable and helps us remember stuff. Great content, tempo/flow, narration, and camera work! 💯
Great presentation. Excellent tile work👍
Lots of very interesting tips&tricks, thanks ! I'll put them to good use soon !
You Guys eclipse This Old House. Excellent detail and explanation. Thank you.