X-Plane 11.30 | How to Configure Response Curves
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- In this X-Plane 11.30 video, we will take a look at how to configure response curves for a rudder hardware device.
Whatever applies to the rudder control, applies to any defined axis in X-Plane 11.
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I can't believe all this time never paid any attention to the most useful setting - thanks again.
Hope you're still here. Just wanted to thank you for explaining this response curve thing in a way that makes sense. I finally "get" it. Thanks so much....
Holy crap I spend hours and hours searching for the solution to add null zone to my 5 years old rudders, you saved me sir, finally I can stop messing around with data ref editor.
Omg! You fixed my null zone problem! Thanks!
Laminar should make a user database where you can download other users “realistic Cessna settings” etc. making it easier for everyone
That would be a bit difficult I suppose because every hardware will have a different curve profile. It would be useful nonetheless. Thanks for watching!
Also, I'm not sure if you use xcamera. I think its a fantastic plugin. However, there is a database/collection of user contributed cameras available for each aircraft. This is great in theory but there's little way of knowing which ones are any good. (I've tried using ones with a high number of cameras as this can show that someone has spent some time on it, but this is skewed by the creation of orbits which quickly add a large number of cameras). In both cases, some kind of peer-review system would help I think.
A year later: does this exist yet? It really wouldn't be hard to do. Only needs a Wiki-style website, where each article is a given controller model, and in each article, are either config downloads or at least pic or text of settings.
This was sorely needed ... most flight sims already have this facility.
Thank God they have finally given us a way to fix the rudder sensitivity problems.
And I must say they have done it quite well. Thanks for watching the video.
@@Q8Pilot Good to hear!
Thanks this information on this video.
I have the Hotstart TBM 900 on X plane 11 and for the most part I LOVE it EXCEPT the EXTREME SENSITIVITY on the controls. After messing with it for 6 months I finally just threw in the towel, but this past weekend I decided to give it another try and began searching videos on how to adjust the settings and ran across yours. I studied it and then started adjusting my settings (what did I have to lose right) and after about 2 hours of tweaking I made some REAL progress. It actually flies like a real plane now. THANKS SOOOO MUCH for your insight, it really helped me.
Glad this has helped. Happy flying
Great video and great to have you back!
Greatly appreciate your video on this upgrade in Xplane 11!!!! I have a fairly sensitive set of rudder pedals that makes flying the sim 172 three times more difficult than with the real plane. I do have to say, however that when one flies the real plane, it makes takeoffs a breeze along with many other flight maneuvers. Those sensitive Sim controls really makes one fly all the better in the real plane. But I will enjoy adjusting my controls in the SIM to a more real world flying experience. Without your video, I likely would have taken months to figure out what the new update 11.30 has. This one upgrade is worth knowing about!!!!!! And I say thank you for that.
Thank you for your kind words. I am glad this was helpful. Happy flying!
Thanks for the info. I really struggled with the Response Curve on my Logitech Saitek Pro Rudder pedals. Used your settings, and takeoff and landing is now a breeze!
I also fly Radio Control aircraft. This is a feature in most modern radios to “dumb down” sensitivity for control surfaces, particularly for beginners, so movements aren’t as responsive causing the plane to be twitchy. Could be useful but at the end of the day, you input the necessary controls for each plane to fly it accordingly. Every plane is different and part of the challenge for me is working with the differences until I can master them. Still, I can see this as a useful feature for fine tuning flying characteristics for many people.
Thanks for the great explanatory video, my friend.
Great video! You saved my life on X-Plane. thanks a lot!
Thank you for the video! My issue is not so much the rudder, but with me and brakes. I can't wait to try this. Work calls...ATB
This is really a great tutorial. I was wondering what response curves were and how could I use them because controlling my planes was very difficult. This brought a lot of clear info and so far seems to have improved rwy control. 2 fer 2 so far.
Hi Hi Q8Pilot..so good to see you again, always love your content...hope you are fine and having a good weekend..this was very informative and the explanations really bring to light how certain inputs are controlled and how to set them...super fantastic...
Hey buddy wish you the same.
It looks a very very good feature. Thank you very much for let us know how it works. Best regards
Thanks for watching the video, glad this was helpful for you.
Great informative video, thanks for sharing!..
I have bought a new yoke. I was trying to understand how to setup response curves. Just searched in YT, guess what again you and your very informative video is here as always. Thank you.
Flights are much more enjoyable with the proper settings, especially departures, and fine control is much more possible. Thanks for explaining this.
This reminds me of the curves I have to setup on my RC helis. Pitch and Throttle curves respectively.
Thanks for the video, yaw a legend ;) I'd have to try it myself but the response curves look quite well done there.
Thanks Tony =)
If you fly helicopters it’s an awesome edition. I fly real ones and hated how the sim always felt to twitchy.
Excellent video - very helpful indeed !!
Thanks Julian, glad you enjoyed it =)
Ooops..that was quick.....thanks a lot for the video ,I think it is not just me....who’s been waiting for this feature for a long long long time
Glad you enjoyed it Jan.
Great feature! Great video! Great work! Again, my friend :)
Great video, well explained. Thank you very much. One question: which additions did you use for the Cessna (headshake, sounds, ...) It looks and sounds well realistic when you get the pedals
Very informative indeed, as always😀 thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it John =)
Good information, I matched your curves, now I can control the plane. thanks.
@q8pilot you made me laugh when you said happy responsive covering at the end of the video 😂
Simply brilliant!
Thanks my friend!
Fantastic I will tweak mine for sure.
Thank you so much!!
For those with Thrustmaster TFRP pedals (and/or the whole T.16000 HOTAS kit), use Nyogel 767A on all your rails. The only downside, is it's hard to find the detent point on the rudders (also hard to keep them clean, especially if you have pets, though so far after several days of heavy use, dirt/hair hasn't ruined the experience yet...just vacuum around them often & wear socks). I'm otherwise using default curves because I have no reference to how any plane actually handles, so I'm trying to make it more difficult in my sim in the hopes that reality is easier.
If I may suggest, it is much simpler to describe that curve's actions by viewing the physical rudder movement rather than showing an airplane being controlled on the runway, as it is very much related to how it 'feels' before applying practical situation. But that's still a great video with the right kind of content!
hello Q8, Is it possible that would you show us the best curve setting for FF320 and B737? Thank you for your very informative and helpful videos again.
This is great, Thanks!
Thanks buddy!
I'm not yet an X-Plane owner, but this video serves as a nice introduction to response curves in other simulators, such as Rise of Flight. Just one question - do you use the Thrustmaster Warthog for all your simming, or do you sometimes use a yoke instead?
Could you share your "control sensitivity" and "stability augmentation" settings? This is very important to handling but rarely discussed. Also, what curves did you find work best for the TBM 900? Thanks!
I paused the video and used the settings shown.
Hi Q8P, thanks for the simple and clear explanation! I have often (also clear weather) with my chproducts pedals and 737 that i have to apply rudder to keep it on the center line. Can i also use this f7nction to correct it. My pedals are already calibrated. Thanks for any advice 👍🏻
Now what would be really helpful is a tutorial on how to do these settings with a detente.
Thanks man
Thank you so much
Hi Q8Pilot, thanks a lot for another wonderful video. I assume it is not possible to save different curve profiles for different planes? Best regards, Michael
Thank youuuuu!!!!!
thanks for your video looks good
Thanks for watching my friend.
Another great video. Do you have any vids on level flight as I can hold altitude but the Cessna keeps banking to the right..
You are awesome
Awesome video! Do u have or can u share ur xprealistic settings for small and big planes? Im playing with it but needs some reference. Thanks.
Mmm - thats interesting, wonder if it will work, on my rudder inputs on my jopstick.. Cheersa.
Thank you so much..
Thanks for watching my friend.
I fly a lot of RC aircraft and every channel in the radio system has these curves. In RC it is called "exponential" or expo for short and I've often wondered why it was not incorporated into simulators. I think that will be a huge help.
It is indeed a great help. Very glad Laminar did this. Thanks for watching!
I can’t believe this was not included in the original release. Maybe x plane will be usable now.
I configured the response curves to more accurately reflect the controls of a helicopter. It worked great. Didnt work good at all when I went back to airplanes..took awhile for me to figure out why the throttle wouldn't come back to idle. The pitch ..yaw..roll had to be reset..
Hello there, hope you are doing more than well; i have one question, what is the best xp11 control sensitivity to be close as a real flight, leave them as they are on the left 50 and right 30, or bring both of them all the way back to zero?
@Q8Pilot, I know you have done a tutorial on response curves for C172 so do you use the same profile config across your collection flights in your hanger or you have each plane with its config, also what are your control response and argumentation settings?
I'm keen to know what response curves you use for Zibo, A319 toliss and A330, thanks in advance.
Great video for important Xplane 11.3 feature.. Can I do same action for Pitch and Roll for my Joystick ?
Yes it applies to anything that has an axis.
SO.. no more screeching tires from the slightest bit of rudder now? Hopefully this fixes my problem of the airplane creeping left/right while in flight all on its own with no control changes... very frustrating@!
Q8Pilot will correct me if I am wrong but methinks he has replaced the dreaded tyre squeal audio file with the wet runway audio file. At least it is a temporary fix to a problem many simmers complain about. Check this vid out :- czcams.com/video/tLkyWo8sFh0/video.html
You can replace the dry runway file with a mute one correct.
Brand new to X plane. Can you make any suggestions?
Good video. I have problem with the flaps making the nose raise very drastic and not very realistic. Is there a way to calibrate this. Thank you
Love the elevation of the airport.
Thanks
Thank you for watching.
I downloaded 11.30b4 and its just wow!
Happy flying my friend!
@@Q8Pilot Thank you!
I toyed with these settings in Beta1 before I decided to roll back to 11.26 & to wait for the completed 11.00 release.
I have the Thrustmaster TFRP pedals & the software includes a response curve config tool. I understand that it writes direct to the hardware & I suspect it overrides any settings in the current 11.26 XP. It will be interesting to see whether the new response curves will take over priority. Until then I will remain confused :)
There were bugs in the initial beta. Beta 4 is stable.
When I press the right rudder I can see the X/Y values increasing as I expect. When i press the left rudder I see the input value increasing but the output value is locked at zero. What am I missing?
How do I add the rudder to be controlled by the roll? While the roll is still being controlled by the yoke?
I quit using x-plane 11 so many time because of that one thing. Thanks so much
Thanks a lot. Exactly what I needed. Where is this airport located please ?
Take a look on the aircraft GPS... He is at EGKA airport, probably its a OBRX scenery
These settings are useful, but they need a knowledge of how the specific aircraft behaves, otherwise it risks having people putting cessna with boeing behavior (for example).
When in doubt, leave it as it is ;)
Completely agree !!!
This feature is primarily designed to compensate for differences in computer peripheral hardware vs the equivalent controls in a real aircraft. For example, a joystick may have a relatively small travel distance in comparison to a real-life yoke. A given response curve will produce different results - depending on the hardware peripherals in use.
Laminar should get a user database that you can just download some other persons settings like Rex does with their custom textures that would be awesome
I agree with Julian. Each hardware will have a different curve profile. It would be difficult to customize per aircraft per available hardware. Possible but very difficult.
Wrong. Everyone's hardware has a different scale of deadzone that needs to be accounted for, now with this you don't have to use your hardware's software or another 3rd party program to account for your deadzone. This should have been a part of X plane from the beginning, now I don't have to use software to have true flight controls
mine doesnt have tje option of response curve, dont know if its beta specific
My default b747-400 moves rightward automatically on v1 and after takeoff,any solution how to fix it??
Not sure if anyone discussed about this, how about the old sensitivity panel? I though that 2 parameters had something to do with this as well? Like gain some center resolutions?
That is still there and works exactly like previous versions.
Q8Pilot thanks for the reply, I mean how is the combination about these two
happy response curving! ;D Are the control sensitivity settings not important anymore?
They are still important but their behavior hasn't changed from last version.
YAY
What sensitivity settings do you use? That makes a difference too
Everything set at the midway point.
Love your intro song! What is it called?
Thanks, not sure ...its been a while. I got the clip from AudioJungle.
I need the nose wheel to be less sensitive and the rudder to be more sensitive - can this be done?
Yes, just add response curves like it is shown in this video. You might need to tweak your settings differently depending on the gear you have.
Can you slow down the speed of a yoke control? For instance my yoke moves the ailerons way too fast.
The speed of the ailerons can't be controlled, but you can adjust sensitivity by adding response curves. This will make the controls less touchy and will greatly improve your control of the aircraft.
I was here stuck when a GTX 950M and a i7-7500U and I’m finally getting a new PC with a GTX 1070 OC 8GB and a i7-8750H
Gonna be great in XP
Slightly off subject; but which version of EGKA are you using for this video? It look much more like the real location than the default.
This is EGKA by Orbx.
Had a feeling it might be, so that makes my mind up about getting the Orbx scenery. Many thanks and keep up the excellent videos.
Hi - I also have the Hotas throttle however if I apply full power I can get only 2000 RPM on the Cessna 172P...??? What an I doing wrong here ? If I set my curve to linear at 100% I get 2000 RPM max. Hope you have a solution for me. Cheers
Seems something wrong with the calibration or response curve. I suggest you delete the response curves, re-calibrate your device and see if this helps. Go to the run command and type joy.cpl and verify that the throttle moves the entire distance when you move it physically.
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I don't have this in game so, I'm steamed?
11.30 beta, you need to enable public betas to update if you've got the Steam version
@@Hoekstes Thanks!
I'm here because the TBM 😭
in real thing it tebd to delay a bit
Should be right rudder. so it's not correct
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"... for all intents and purposes ..." Sorry.
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Dude... you seriously need to get some audio damper panels. Sounds like you're talking in an empty room. Anyway, great tutorial thanks.