predatory relationships in hollywood: a deep dive 🧠🎥🤨
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2023
- it seems like every other day there's news about a middle aged celebrity dating a teenager, which is by no means a recent phenomenon. in today's video we decided to take a look at the history of predatory relationships within the entertainment industry, from charlie chaplin's teen brides to the exploitation of groupies in the 1970s to leo dicaprio's inability to date anyone over the age of 25.
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“If you’re clicking with a teenager, it says a lot more about your maturity and intelligence than it does theirs”
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Yes, everyone should hear this!
Yooooo
For some reason it’s almost always older women who make these talks. “They’re young but I should have your attention dammit!”
Yeah this. I always wondered like what can you as a 40 year old and a 20 year old have in common ffs. Have you spoken to a 20 year old? It's like getting a brain rot.
@@MyaB1986 do you decide to get attracted to someone once pinpointing your common interests? Does everything have to be in common and opposites never attract? Moreover, is every age range people the same and it only always works out when their age is closer to yours?
The fact that Brooke Shields mother and the photographer felt so ok with a 10 year old posing naked and oiled up, and playboy actually offering money for it is horrifying. So fucking horrifying
So true so very true these public celebrities should be held accountable, especially them for their condoning, being a pedophile, regardless, whether these little insecure naïve gullible little playmates a sample themselves at the celebrities, be celebrities need to send out a message, not acceptable(Brad Pitt for one has daughters in this instance, what messages he sending out to his children with his little playmate yes, it’s his business(not his private business because it’s not private and I don’t wish him and his little playmate well because they’re both sending out a very bad message) And I think she’s just ms. for me right now, is Brad Pitt has always been a player and always had a back up girl. I will respect and give respect to Brad Pitt as an actor, because he’s a very good actor., as a, man I think you need some counseling
Mother was a BIG Stage Mother stereotype and a alcoholic
Just adding that it was also the '70s and virtually everybody in banking and entertainment was doing cocaine. Not an excuse, but it might explain why some people in media thought these sketchy situations were worth capitalizing on, and why a lot of people after rehab looked back and said "What the fuck was I _thinking?!_ "
I couldn’t agree more yet they still allow this in Hollywood. It’s disgusting where they think you’re entitled to do whatever they damn well please and not pay the consequences. I’d like to see how Brad Pitt would handle someday when his daughters coming and introducing him to me and his age can I show exactly what kind of father he is?
What's even worse is people still make videos calling her a 70's sex symbol despite her being a child in the 70's...
The creepiest Hollywood relationship in my eyes is Woody Allen's relationship with his now ex partners , Mia Farrows adopted daughter who he helped raise from childhood totally creeps me out. Truly vile its just so disgusting as that power dynamic etc I would say he definitely groomed her and it was most definitely illegal when it all started yet nothing happens. Like seriously wtaf???
@@fatimahanwaar306just say to " jail is also just a room" kindly also visit there
Ya and that is so not true.@@fatimahanwaar306
And Morgan Freeman having a relationship with his adoptive granddaughter
@@lilamontoya5609 erm what ???? Never heard of this omfg.
Except he did not "raise her from a baby with Mia Farrow". She adopted Soon-Yi with another man. That's why Soon-Yi's last name was Previn- like her dad. She never saw Allen as a father! So much judgement about something you don't even know the most basic details about 🤔
I think of the interview of Kirsten Dunst for Interview with a Vampire or something, and the interviewer asked her if she liked getting to kiss Tom Cruise and her gracious response was more or less “Tom’s great, don’t get me wrong, a terrific actor, but I’m 12, and he’s a man, why would I like kissing a man?”
She didn’t kiss Tom, she kissed Brad. And yes, that interview question is all sorts of wrong.
What a good answer. I also like an answer mentionned in this video - some of grils targeted by predator said "I have to ask my mother". This response would cool down 90% of the groomers.
kirsten sounds super with it from a young age. doesnt change the foul nature of child exploitation and abuse and like, yeah she got paid to kiss a man... hope it wasnt a trauma for her later on cause it would probably be for me.
People today are traumatized over everything. The word trigger is a trigger. People survived and lived life just fine for centuries without therapy.
@scottsallisky4941 No they weren't fine. None of these topics were talked about, it was swept under the rug because it wasn't "proper". A lot of people suffered in silence over being abused. Trauma isn't a modern concept, but it's talked about in modern times and help is offered.
Bottom line: We need to stop idolizing people. We can admire people for their talent, but it's better to value people for their integrity and moral character.
truth spoken !!!
THANK YOU!!! I've been saying that for a loong time. I mean I get liking or even loving someone's work, but from that to idolizing the performer/artist/whatever and putting then on such pedestal...? Nope.
Some popular singer said that in old Hollywood it was obvious that if some singer would sing even better than Sinatra, the management would come to him, as soon as possible make a contract, and pay big money, before someone else would make a contract with him to make him famous.
and they tell to him to never perform so people will never hear the guy because the king can be only one.
Or if there were 50 singers who are like Elvis and one of them was better than Elvis singing better dancing better.
The management would buy him, so he will never be heard by any audience because it's a shallow way to convince the public that King is only one, and its an interesting tricky
way of business itself to gain millions. Because they invest so much money in Elvis that they can not afford to have some other singer, who is better.
So maybe at that time cancel culture did exist globally but it existed only behind people´s backs, made by some individuals, who had money.
He is probably right. It's like Nike is just the best merchandise. Nobody is better than them except Adidas.
But nobody else is supposed to be as corporate as them. I was always wondering why we never hear the singers of the American Idol. Why they didn't become famous if they are so good, or just few of them were a little bit famous and made a CD recording?
So maybe the public is tired of manipulation so they made a cancel culture because they changed their opinion about famous people.
People started to realize that television is as fake as it gets, just to buy their products, without conscious thinking.
They convince you that its not on you to choose what product you want but they choose it for you. Then they blame people if they stop caring about culture.
Maybe cancel culture always existed before but people didn't know about it. Management could buy someone to not perform etc. Even though the celebrity became a slave at some point.. The management also does stuff. It actually doesn't create values of healthy relationships and marriages, because fake sense that celebrities are always best at something and don't have time for marriage and ordinary stuff. But people should have their own values.
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@@alaalfa8839this is a great explanation of American capitalism and marketing. It's always been this way, especially in Hollywood. These days, the manipulation is extreme. The propaganda has always been powerful, but moreso these days because of the technology and access people have at their whim. Politics operates like this also; we have a lot less control than propaganda leads people to believe, ie, "vote no matter what!" People are chosen, we don't exactly choose. Same thing in Hollywood. I believe it's been like this for centuries.
the interview Brooke Shields has with Drew Barrymore breaks me because they BOTH understand exactly what Brooke is saying, it's horrible..
Many, MANY of us have been sexually exploited by adults when we were children. We simply aren’t famous…
Same! Ong 😢
I am horrified at the things they went through but I've lost my respect for Drew Barrymore after she made fun of Amber Heard with a r@pist like Anthony Anderson on her show.
@@hmmpftt1259 oh that is VILE, what the hell...
@@cherry_tonic Yeah. Watch the episode when he guested. I used to be a huge fan of Drew and I still support her when it comes to the abuse she received when she was a kid, but I no longer like her as a person. That episode horrified me.
30 Years ago me and my cousin went to a concert and we got to talking to the singer and the guitar player before the show. We had a great conversation and a lovely click. Then they asked us our age. We answered honestly, 15 and 16 respectively. Their demeanor melted. Next beat they picked themselves up and went "Welp! Lovely to talk to you girls, we'll be on our way now." Decent dudes. The band was Senser.
Didn't happen to me with a band, but a nice man at the bus stop when I was around 14. He asked me about college, I told him I went to the elementary school down the street, & he wrapped the conversation up right quick. 😂
@@kaitlyngault3987had an experience like this except it was the other way around. I was talking to this guy who I felt like I could be interested in, I asked him for his age and he said he was 15 (I’m 17 being very close to 18) and that’s when I pretty much dropped the conversation because that’s too much of a gap. It’s just the bare minimum, always ask for their age and if they aren’t the appropriate age then drop them.
@@kaitlyngault3987you was 14 in elementary school
You were in elementary school at 14? wtf @@kaitlyngault3987
Apparently it’s illegal just to talk to 15 and 16 year olds now?
As much as these 'stars' are to blamed, the parents of those children are equally to be blamed. How can they allow their own children to go through such trauma, just for a stint of publicity
It’s called parental greed or munchausens syndrome by proxy, parents want the money and glare of the spotlight!
Honestly I agree. But I also want to throw some shade at the politicians and lawmakers, that still hasn’t fixed those loopholes to this day. And while it happens less nowadays then it used to, teens getting married does still happen in the US, and the fact that there are ways for it to be legal, is a problem not enough people are talking about.
This is a very easy answer: MONEY.
I couldn’t agree more shame on the parents, and regardless whether it was consensual or not, there’s gotta be a rational, thinking adult in the situation. What is the time when these old men were brought up on charges( of a form of rape) up on charges by the parents? Because the parents knew it was wrong. The man knew it was wrong.( and the young girl, her hormones were raging, some even went out to these old men to exploit them to get money from them, prostituting themselves for money, and now these Little huskies go after celebrities because they can’t get fame on their own)
@@dudewhatthewhat8983 these young girls go out with these old men to exploit them. They want the money they want the thing they want what they can’t go after and get on their own., Seriously the young girl that’s with Robert De Niro does she have daddy issues or what?
Anyone dating someone the same age as their own children is a weirdo.
@fatimahanwaar306 but a 39 year old isn't a child or very young adults
There’s nothing wrong with an age gap when the younger person is 39… Jesus Christ. That person has been an adult for a long time. You all are crazy judgmental.
What if the person doesn’t have kids?Then you can’t say that’s the specific issue. Some women have had kids at 14, some at 40. That range isn’t exhaustive obviously… the range does however illustrate that making statements such as the one above is foolish. My parents are in their mid 80s and I’m 32… my husbands parents are also in their mid 80s. We have an age gap, that I’m not about to share here. We have been happily married 9 years. Our families are supportive. My parents adore my husband. Yes, they were insanely protective of me at first, but he proved he wasn’t a fucking creep. Relationships should be viewed on a case by case basis. You can’t make polarizing blanket statements.
Also, it is funny that people are talking about how normalized and ok society is with older men and younger women, but that’s just not true from my experience. Having an age gap seems to give people license to publicly shit on you and be justified in doing so… or for them to ask you ridiculously inappropriate questions. That is what I’ve experienced. I can acknowledge that we may be the exception to the rule, but it shouldn’t make people feel like they have free license to judge and treat you with contempt, disrespect, or hatred.
If two people are adults then it shouldn't matter unless you're some weirdo that's in a cult. That uses pseudoscience that's not accepted by mainstream neurologists.
More like a predator
Yeah, there seems to be something off there.
Both David Harbour and Pedro Pascal have cute offscreen fatherly bonds with Millie Bobby Brown and Bella Ramsey respectively. This makes Leonardo DiCaprio's preference of dating women between 18-25 even more unsettling.
To Quote Taylor Swift “I will get older, but the lovers will stay my age”
@haihai9022 remember when she dated a high-school boy tho?
@@haihai9022 i wouldnt quote her, seeing as she dated a high schooler as a 23 year old.
I hate how with Leonardo DiCapro I saw someone say “Their both legal adults so I don’t see a problem”
If they don’t see the problem then you are apart of it
Let's hope those bonds stay fatherly.
Playboy and 10 year old children should NEVER be combined.
I just find it annoying when people say it was the norm "back then" to have a huge age gap when dating. It should have not been the norm. It is not normal!
Age gaps are fine if the younger one is over 20. It's only predatory when adults go for teenagers. I am 36 and my girlfriend is 22 and we have a very healthy relationship and she is an adult so she knows what's right and wrong. I only prefer women who are 21+.
Although I personally find it weird & creepy (if it were my relationship), there's nothing with a man dating a younger, LEGAL woman. Especially when you factor in genetic differences. You people are talking shades of morality.
@@lostecho5318 I agree. My husband was 22 years older than I l, and we had an almost pe4fect marriage
And omg all the wannabe historians here on yt telling everyone that girls regularly got married as teenagers in the middle ages. They did not! As if childbirth wasn't dangerous enough back then. Noone who cared if thier daughter lived let them get pregnant that young.
@shellytracy5396 your husband still had pedophile tendencies if he married you then. I said what I said
They always say "She's mature for her age" and never "I'm imature for my age". 😐
It´s actually a sign of maturity to choose a younger woman as a partner and has nothing to do with power and other idiotic notions you people regurgitate but rather the choice to avoid women just like you. Younger and less confrontational or socially paranoid women have less baggage and preconceived stereotypes embeded in their minds hence they are more desirable.
Not exploitable if you can ever make the distinction which is doubtful.
Younger women can have their opinions and freedom of choice and their projected imaturity can also be a weapon and not a weakness especially nowadays.
Women that are younger can easily take advantage of older men by financially exploiting them or cheating but that little detail totaly evaded your brain.
The one sided story telling and forced equality of the cases in this video and to compare real predators and healthy individuals just because of their age gap relationships is so typically female and very telling of your motives.
That is true.
FANTASTIC POINT !!!!
I was no lie i knew shit at 16 that most know at 27
Groomer’s favorite line to justify being creeps
I think it's also worth noting that Finn Wolfhard was also sexualized by fans of Stranger Things after the first season dropped. Women were telling him to find them when he turned 18 and planning around his potential future sexiness when he was around 14 years old. He found it really unsettling--which it was.
Yeah, the fact that a grown ass adult would've looked at him and thought anything other than innocent stuff is super disgusting
one of those girls being gracie abrams too
So scary.
Also anyone found it odd when Devi and Paxton kissed in NHIE?
Seeing those Grown people lusting over 14 year olds was disgusting
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 they literally could not kiss in the first season because it was filmed when maitreyi ramakrishnan (devi) was 17. and the guy who plays paxton was in his like mid 20s i think.
I’m so glad you put Justin in here he was violated and groped his whole teenage fame life! Imagine if he was the opposite sex just disgusting! We all need to do better
That shocked me. If that had been my son, that women would be sitting in jail today. Also, he immediately said "I feel violated" and you could clearly tell he was, just by the look on his face. I've a feeling that prize did not feel as good as it should have.
A man doing this to a girl in the same situation would be dragged through hell and back, but this was fine? This shows how SA is barely acknowledged when the victim is male. Mind you, SA against female is also too downplayed, still.
Justin Bieber is a literal walking ball of mental strength and an example to all humankind. Could you ever handle the fame fortune that he has, not perfect but ALWAYS getting more mature and humble and growing. IMHO currently. ;] I use to reallyhate him until i realized i was jealous of him and he's from near VERy near me, my good friend was good friends with his close family member. He's put out some amazing tunes since he took over his own career path. I'm proud to admit that i admire him and how i useda dislike but was prolly just masking a form of jealousy. He is talented BUTWEHAS WORKED SOHARD on his career. What sealed the deal for me was when I watched him take a call from his mom WHILE DOING A LIVE RADIO INTERVIEW. Now that is respect and a true role model for anyone ESPECIALLY young men!! respect and love to all :)
Suddenly his treatment of Britney Spears makes more sense because now it has a source. Abuse tends to be cyclical after all.
“Imagine if it were the other way around” girl nothing would happen either have you watched the video…
@@baddielo2575 I think they're saying like, live on TV during an award show. But yeah, who knows if someone would have cared
Mariah Carey met Tommy Mottola when she was a 19 year-old singer struggling to make ends meet, and he was 40 and the CEO of a record company. They started dating while she was recording her debut album and married a couple of years later. The power imbalance was insane and he took full advantage of it, controlling her every movement, to the point where she has to ask for permission every time she left the house. She eventually divorced him and regained her freedom, but he suffered no repercussions for what was clearly a highly inappropriate relationship. And that's just one example.
Yes!!! He exploited her so badly.
He even tried to sabotage her Glitter album once she left him and Sony.
19 is not underage stop reaching
@@Idontcarejones you completely missed the point.
@@Idontcarejones they didn't even say that though???
"But the teenage girls instigated these relationships. She wanted to go out for drinks."
You're the adult. Send the child home.
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Cue up ABBA's "Does Your Mother Know."
this!
facts!!
Many of these guys are also known to abuse alcohol and/or drugs.
This is not an excuse, but it does explain a bit.
I had absolutely no idea charlie chaplin was a predator💀
The parents of the girls usually pushed them to date him. He was an ass, but their parents were worse.
i only knew because of twilight >.
Same here, I never knew about it at all
@@christinebenson518 they really are the worst
@@BrandonNinjaSleeping with a minor is illegal
It's so weird wanting to date a teenager. My friend started a relationship at 17 with a 30 year old. I was disgusted back then. Now that I am almost 30 I am even more disgusted!
I was always attracted to older men as well, so I understand your cousin. Whereas currently my 42 years old friend loves dating men 10 or more years younger than her, which I could never do.
People discussed in this video:
1:16 Charlie Chaplin
9:32 Errol Flynn
16:57 Elvis Presley and Priscilla Bealieu
20:40 Jerry Lee Lewis
21:35 Tammi Terrell and James Brown
22:34 David Ruffin
23:00 rock and roll groupies
24:40 Lori Maddox, Sable Starr and Pamela Des Barre
29:45 Ted Nugent
30:58 Steven Tyler
32:05 Roman Polanski
32:54 Brooke Shields
34:55 Patrick Dempsey and Rochelle Parker
36:06 Brad PItt
37:19 Jerry Seinfeld and Shoshanna Lonstein
39:43 Marilyn Manson
41:19 Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder
43:08 R Kelly and Aaliyah
45:28 Leonardo Di Caprio
49:22 Madonna
50:58 Jessica Alba
52:10 Megan Fox
54:05 Hilary Duff
54:58 Mandy Moore and Michael Valderama
56:21 Miley Cyrus
57:23 Taylor Swift and John Mayer
58:20 Sam Johnson and Aaron Johnson
59:31 Justin Bieber
1:00:44 Courtney Stodden and Doug Hutchinson
1:02:22 Paul Walker
1:03:07 Kylie Jenner
1:03:51 Dane Cook
When I was 19 I always saw older men 30s and 40s That's what I preferred
Thank you 🙏
Thanks man!
the “it was just a different era” apologists are so deeply invested in not processing their own trauma or properly blaming the men responsible for abusing them because of their celebrity status, thus guaranteeing the cycle continues
I would like to add the messed up parents that not only approved, but pushed their children to be with a celebrity. Many of the teenagers that Charlie Chaplin dated when he was in his mid 20s to 40s had their parents push them to date him.
@@christinebenson518 They we’re probably the greedy stage parent type. Those people probably wanted their kids to get with a celebrity for the money and fame.
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Well said
the 'it was a different era' excuse only applies to like the 1300s when ppl died at 30
The way people cheered when they heard Aaron might have cheated says enough
I was cheering so much even dancing to Last Last by Burna Boy celebrating 🎉
@@theprettiestleoxoxo yup I was moving just like Pedro Pascal dancing from his SNL episode 💀
I always found their relationship gross. Unfortunately he is not going to leave her, because she can hold their two kids as leverage. 🙈
Funny how no one gets this upset when it happens to women until years later when we need to have a “conversation.” Shouldn’t happen either way...but just something to point out.
I hope he cheated, although it's such a waste of a seemingly good man for a woman to take advantage of him so young.
I used to adore Charlie Chaplin, Elvis Presley and Leo DiCaprio, but ever since I learned of their predatory behavior to young women, TEENAGERS OR VERY CLOSE AGE TO ONE, it changes my view of them completely
Leo...the only inaccurate one on the list. Everyone knows these are contracts.
Dane Cook is disgusting also.
Leonardo DiCaprio will not date someone over 25. He has some serious emotional issues it’s not secure within himself
obviously. And Brad Pitt what is his problem? Too much drugs and alcohol? Can’t keep a woman within his age group. Happy as for his a little playmate that he’s playing sugar daddy till she has daddy issues or she didn’t. For the thing. Nobody knew who she was until he came on the scene. She may have been successful in her job, but she definitely didn’t stay with her first husband and I didn’t take her long to latch onto Brad did it? Until society stops I don’t live in the celebrities giving them a pass. They gonna keep doing it.. just because they’re a celebrity does that mean that they can get away with anything being a pedophile Elvis was wrong. Priscilla‘s parents were despicable and And other celebrities, such as singers, like Steven, Tyler, and that young girl, and how despicable and disgusting her mother was, it was all about the money she sold her daughter cheap
This is why we separate art from artist!
Charlie Chaplin and Elvis Presley should have gone to jail.
I'm so glad you talked about Aaron Taylor Johnson! I feel like his story is often forgotten and overlooked
100% and they are actively trying to white wash it all and change the facts now that he is gaining fame. She still has so much power over him and very powerful friends that keep her safe but hopefully people will remember and not let her get away with it.
Hollywood should start casting their romantic leads with age appropriate actors as well. Almost always its a 40/50 year old man paired with a 20 something year old.
I remember this story about an actress (can't remember her name) who was told she was too old to play the role of a lover for a 50 year old man, she was in her mid to late 30s
@@CarolaTeslaMaggie Gyllenhaal
@@CarolaTeslaliteral vomit
Yess! I've always found it strange. It's been happening throughout cinematic history and some movies even have the man knowingly infantalizing the woman. That is not an image grown men should be seeing.
Good point
I hate the "she's mature beyond her years" excuse. I was a mature teen, I could hold conversations with adults without problem, but I was a child regarding romantic relationships until my mid 20s. No, a smart teen is still a child and it shows.
Tbh its more likely for mature teenagers to turn away older people.
@@fixsationon7244 My thoughts exactly. It's a shame that no one ever throws back that counter-argument.
Agreed! I was always "mature for my age," and everyone said that. So when I started dating a 27 year old at 19, I thought that was just who I was supposed to go for. No. It wasn't. I was still a child.
They used to say that crap if you developed early too. Idiot boys thought girls with larger boobs were promiscuous. Disgusting.
That was me too. Conversing with adults was a norm for me. Intellectually sharp... romantically, a dimwit. I also dislike the "she's a grown up in a child's body" and "she has an old soul."
In reference to Brooke Shields, don't forget the film 'Manhattan'. She was casted as Woody Allen's (who was in his 40s) girlfriend. She was a teenager and her character was seventeen. They had no fear or shame in making such a film.
It literally won an Oscar for writing and I believe was nominated for Best Picture. The fact that this man is still out there making movies is insane to me. I remember watching Annie Hall as a teen and there is a reference to a character having sex with 16 year olds. I asked my mom “that was normal back then, right?” She said “no, it never was.” I’ll never forget that.
Was Brooke the first choice for the role and then changed? Honest question, here. Because the actress that played the young girlfriend was Mariel Hemingway. Still disgusting and wrong, that plot though
you´re wrong, it was not brooke it was mariel hemingway and she was 17-18
I blame her parents and her reps for signing off on such an offensive job for a minor
And the whole premise is she is chasing him! Yuck!
As a server I work with some teenagers. I’m 35, and one of my coworkers who constantly accused LGBTQIA of being predators, started dating our 18 year old hostess. He’s 43. It’s her first relationship. I couldn’t imagine dating one of the LITERAL CHILDREN I work with. It created a weird division between staff with a few men defending the 43 year old. Eventually some of my other coworkers started saying things like “she’s always liked older guys” “daddy issues” etc. blaming the young girl. It’s so disturbing how nothing has changed.
Would you still judge me? 3 months ago I went on date with this girl who is 19 and I was 22. I just turned 23 yesterday and she is still 19 and will turn 20 in April so we will be 19 and 23 for almost 4 months and finally we will be 20 and 23. Is it still bad?
@@manosijroy8282 no I don’t think so in my personal opinion. It’s all relative. But a few years is nothing compared to a lifetime. Just be good to each other, be patient and kind. Good luck to you in the new year!
@@manosijroy8282Dude, relax. In your case there is not much of an age difference. 20 and 23 is fine, but a 43 year old pursuing an 18 year old is clearly just wrong, and especially when it's the 18 year old girl who is getting criticized.
My big issue with grown adults pursuing people who are barely legal is that if you’re attracted to them as an 18 year old, you wouldn’t have been any less attracted to them a year prior. The only thing stopping them from pursuing someone younger is the law. That is disgusting. Date people your own age ffs.
Right I’m 23, and I don’t even like the idea of dating someone who is 18…
@@chanela.7786 Same here. At 20 I couldn’t even imagine it and that’s only a two year age gap.
I’m 18 and tbh I still find myself attracted to 15-17 year olds from a physical standpoint. I wouldn’t pursue anything with them though because I know they’re dumb as hell. 😂
Yooo recently I know a 40+ y/o woman married her student right after he reached his 20. I was like "whatever" cuz he's 20, but then i found out she's been his teacher for 4 years. I can't help but to think when she started to get attracted to him....
@@Kiran37369 found the creep attracted to minors 🙄
Imagine signing some document saying a creepy pedo can have his way with your daughter. Ugh, some people are so messed up.
The parents are just as bad as the predators. Maybe even worse.
@@ttintagelno…not worse but i get ur point
@@ttintagel the parents are definitely worse. Creeps are gonna be creeps but that is YOUR CHILD how is it even possible to not protect them? I’d go to jail.
@@eternalbliss330definitely worse. Strangers harming vs your own family harming you kind of worse
Sadly f'd up POS parents have been pimping their children out for millennia, for fame, money and attention. Seems things never change.
You forgot Woody Allen. He crossed more than one taboo and should have been jailed but I find he is, particularly, protected.
Worst of all, such relationships are not just swept under the rug, they are glorified. I have heard content creators from different countries literally saying “date younger women, RAISE a wife fit for you, MOLD her into what you want”.
Another problematic relationship no one ever seems to question is Mariah Carey and Tommy Mottola. They met when Mariah was around 17 and he was 40. Soon later they started dating and they finally got married in 1993 when she was 23 and he was 45. If the age gap wasn't disturbing in and of itself, he was also essentially her boss, head of her record label and one of the most powerful men in the music industry, and she had just started her career and came from nothing. Unsurprisingly, the marriage turned out abusive, and Tommy is still credited to this day for "making" Mariah, when, in fact, he took advantage of her more than she profited from the relationship...
It was similar for Celine Dion and her husband too, she met him as a kid and married him when she was very young.
@totakoke Right! And not to mention, once they divorced and Mariah subsequently left Columbia Records, Tommy was still trying to sabotage her career 💯
@@teijaflink2226 Celine was 26 years old when she married Rene Angelil, no?
@@AdultThirdCultureKid1971yes she was 26 years old when she married him but the fact is he started managing her when she was 11 or 12 years old while he was married with kids at the time. He knew her as a child. That was a power dynamic in that he was in his 30s and was her manager. They started dating when she was 18 or 19 and her mother didn’t like it at all.
I was waiting for this and was sad when they weren't mentioned. I was also waiting for her to mention Prince and his grooming of Mayte Garcia but was shocked at them missing out esp considering how big Prince is. But I guess she can't fit every single predator in Hollywood in a single video or it'd take too long.
If "Pretty Little Liars" aired nowadays, there's no way that Ezra and Aria's relationship would be treated sympathetically. In the follow up series, they even add a throwaway line of them adopting a baby, showing that they're STILL romancising them a decade later!
In the books that relationship doesn't thrive, at least while Aria is in high school
As a kid I always find that ship is disgusting, but we've targaryens now and I'm ok with it?? 😅
@tundelle While weird, HoTD being about an incestuous family of monarchs who controls dragons allows ppl to suspend disbelief a bit more because not only it takes place in a completely different time period, it's also fantasy. Ezria's extremely messed up relationship taking place in present time, however... and the fact that he approached her KNOWING she was a minor to get revenge. Just incredibly disturbing and I can't believe he was her endgame when Aria had other romantic interests
Our perspective on that are changing giving most of us who watched the show were kids 👍🏽🤷🏽
The weird thing is they made her brother and her parents look like the weird ones for wanting her to break up with Ezra. Then they had a whole episode of Aria and Ezra convincing her family that they are in a consenting relationship and everyone just moves on.
Big age difference or not, celebrity or ordinary people, everyone should be careful who they enter into a relationship with. It can have devastating consequences.
The only reason these people date way younger is because they want someone they can mold and shape into their perfect, submissive and naive spouse. I'm being serious, that's literally what Elvis wanted. He wanted a doll-like wife who would sit and wait at home for him. He dressed Priscilla up and made her dye her hair and wear makeup pretty much 24/7.
And for those saying "they are adults they can make their own choices"
Leo is in his 50s. His girlfriends are barely legal. They are in two VASTLY different stages of life. They have different levels of maturity and sensibility.
Age gaps are fine if the younger one is over 20. I am 36 and my girlfriend is 22 and we have a very healthy relationship and she doesn't mind our age gap at all. I only prefer women who are 21+.
@@lostecho5318I agree that twenty one should be the bare minimum. In America you can't even legally have a drink with your date because they aren't mature enough; but adult relations is somehow appropriate?
I really appreciate when communities self police on matters like these; and hold themselves to a higher standard than laws, when they are lacking.
But, with all that being said; large age gap relationships tend to result in higher rates of abuse... Not to mention that the younger a person is, the more likely they are, statistically, to divorce (in comparison to first marriage older persons).
Though your age gap isn't the worst by any means from a moral standard; again really appreciate that you don't find minors of any kind attractive or dateable... I would still suggest to stave off marriage and shared finances until both of you are situated in your careers; or at least have a very solid game plan for child rearing (if any) and future investments that enrich both of you equally (the most important thing that tends to be missing in uneven-aged arrangements). Age gaps aren't just issues because of the legalilty. As noted in the video, people of different ages can be in very different places of life; and this can affect both, but most in particular the younger person, negatively long term.
Leonardo Dicaprio met his ex girlfriend Camila Morrone when she was 11 years old as her mother actress Lucila Solá was then dating actor Al Pacino at the time. Camila considered Leo a “family friend” whom she started dating when she was 18!! years old. As predicted Leo promptly dumped Camila at 24.
Like I cannot imagine the mental turmoil of the women who get into relationships with him only to find out the "rumors" were true and they get tossed like trash for his next blonde teen in his contact list. Even if you agree to a relationship like that... he clearly does not give a shit about those women. 😬🤢
@@elinope4745what do u mean by that
like its wrong bc then they cant date other ppl at the age they marry at (implying the marryibg age is 25??)
either way even if he did continue dating them that would still be wrong bc hes known this woman in particular as a child
@@elinope4745who gets married at 25 anymore? 😂
One will think it's a ritual or something
Bruh what they started dating when she was 20 u need to do research
I remember when Bradley Cooper was asked in an interview about possibly dating Jennifer Lawrence in real life, as they had costarred in so many things, and he reacted as if the idea was appalling, saying she was way too young for him. (He was I think 37 at the time, and she was 21.) I thought, good for him! Then he started dating someone two years younger than her.
you probably didn't mean it this way, but that last sentence feels like a punchline lmao something straight out of family guy. or something
Cooper is in the club, but then so is Jennifer
I kind of remember that. Makes sense.
@@tivaspotato I absolutely meant it that way. :-)
@@bilalbhuttiali1411 Did you miss where I said that he was asked about him and Jennifer Lawrence and he acted grossed out because she was "way too young" for him, and then he started dating someone 2 years younger than her? So a 21-year-old is too young, but a 19-year-old was just right?? TF? And if you're still into teenagers into your 30s and 40s, something is wrong with you.
Don't forget Celine Dion and Rene Angelil. She was 12 years old when they met and he was 38. Luc Besson and Maiwenn Le Bosco were also a horridly imbalanced couple.
People waiting for Hilary Duff to be of age was disgusting as well .. if strangers are that creepy, imagine who they're surrounded by.. bleh.
Saw the same thing with Billie Eilish where there was even a page that was doing a countdown to her turning legal. It's sick! 🤢
@@Missjunebugfreak How despicable. Wasn't that also the case with the Olsen twins?
Hilary Duff was with Joel Madden of Good Charlotte when she was 16 and he was 24ish, not enough people talk about it.
You skimmed over the bit where Lori says she lost her virginity to David Bowie when she was aged 12.
Thank you! Many people choose to ignore that fact due his relevancy as a queer idol. We need call out predatory no matter who it is
Literal p3do.
Wtf!!!
🤮🤮🤮 cannot believe the depravity of this
wtf I did not know that
Charlie Heaton from Stranger Things was only 16 when his boss Akiko Matsuura groomed him. She commented that he was a “hot little boy” on her facebook when he was only 17, she got him on heavy drugs when he was 17, she posted a nude photo of him without him knowing to her facebook when he was 18, and she babytrapped him when he was 19. He finally left her soon after she became pregnant.
That’s when Charlie got into acting to support himself and his son. When Charlie got famous and the press found out about him being a father, Akiko started lying to the press about her age to make it look like Charlie was a deadbeat dad who left his pregnant teen girlfriend. I remember in 2018, she made a post on Instagram saying she hasn’t been in a relationship since she was with him, and that she’s sad and lonely being a single mom, and all I could think was “well maybe next time don’t f*ck a teenager!” But I just feel so sad for Charlie and what he’s had to go through since you can tell he’s still messed up from that experience.
@@Ohana9999i know it’s so weird. they tried to pass her off as being the same age as charlie, but there’s so many photos of her playing in bands from the early 2000s 😭
Yeah, there so many articles saying she was born in 1994, with no month or date. Only a couple of other sites (buried in the results) listed her birthday as November 2, 1980 (which makes sense with that picture of her playing in a band in 2006, looking very 26 and not at all 12). This is so weird.
@@bbmmr8wikipedia now gives her real birthday. Yay!!! It's the first result. 😊
Thank god natalia came to his life
Jesus Christ! That's disgusting 🤮
I hate when ppl say “oh well they were willing” etc. theyre CHILDREN. You’re the adult, it’s your job to say “hey I know you think you want this but trust me when I say you don’t” and to say no.
Sorry but when a 16 year old goes into some guy's tour bus.... It's not as innocent as you would believe.
@@mr.balloffur thats when an adult steps in. im not saying teenagers are angels or anything. im just saying that we have a responsibility as adults to protect them. nothing illegal should happen between a minor and an adult. its the adults job to make sure it doesn't happen. full stop.
Yeah some other youtube made a whole video about how Elvis Presley was a groomer (him being like 21 and his wife was only 14 when they talked to eachother) and the Presley fans were so angry that some just points out that he isn't a saint
*BuT hE wAiTiD tO hAvE sEx WiTh HeR uNtIl ShE wAs 18 AnD mArRiEd To HiM* still doesn't makes it okay that is actually text-book grooming
@@retro.raider or the teenagers stay home
RUSSELL SIMMONS
Kimora Lee Simmons was still in high school and it’s only this past summer that she’s realized she’s been groomed. It was heartbreaking to watch her talk about it on her IG Live
Remember when everyone was waiting for Emma Watson to turn “legal” age. It was so disgusting, frankly it gave me slight trauma.
And the fact that at her bday party paparazzi were trying to take pictures up her dress
They did the same with Billie, Millie Bobby brown, Britney Spears and even Miley Cyrus. It’s absolutely disgusting I empathize with the young women and men who work in the industry.
Ugh not as bad as the Olsen Twins ticking time clock
@@cvill03That truly lets me know how sick some people in society are. Those girls were literal baby’s when they were introduced to us. But there are men out there who were anticipating for them to be of legal age. People hate to admit it but a lot of the older generation were pedos and sex addicts. Way more than they are today. I don’t care what anybody says.
Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen had the same thing happen to them. It was horrific
A playboy photoshoot… at the age of ten😧wtf. That is just disgusting and makes me sick to my stomach that a mother could do that to her child, exposing her to so many predators in this world😔
Straight up CP is what that is! Totally disgusting! It just gives me a bit of hope that at least that would be unimaginable in a public context today. It seems like our society is evolving - even if it is terribly slowly.
Child abuse! JFC - what is wrong with society that this “mother” was not prosecuted??
Not just her mom sexualized her,, all her life,, but what does this say a Hefner and the playboy franchise,,
Freaking horrible,,
Personally I believe Brooke Shields mother basically used her child as a cash flow,,
She basically sold her to the highest bidder 👿
It seems to have worked out pretty well for her . . .
@@williamclayton9566?????
one thing most people don't seem to mention in age gap relationships is that if you're in it for the long run, you're essentially signing yourself up to be a middle aged caretaker, and then spending your own elder years alone, not to mention making your children have a parent who's gonna be as old as a grandparent and probably die when they're in their 20's, or even teen years. cause if you start dating someone middle aged when you're barely legal, that's what's gonna wait for you in life, they're gonna grow old and die, and you'll barely be half way into your life.
Brooke Shields makes me sad when I think about what happened to her she was literally a prepubescent child when she started getting treated inappropriately and her mom was prostituting her at an age most girls are still playing with dolls and stealing makeup from mommy's handbag
The fact that Dane Cook held "game" nights at his house with multiple older men in the industry mixing with underage to barely legal girls is so disgusting.
He married the 18 year old he’d been grooming since she was 15.
@@TheDivayentaEW NO WHAT?!
Ugh I’ve just started the video and suddenly I don’t know wether I’m emotionally prepared for the storm of shit! 🫣
@@TheDivayenta Yep and if that's not weird enough, he met her through her DAD.
don't forget it happens with same sex relationships as well. i was 16 with a 23 year old girlfriend. i am a 23 year old woman now and couldn't imagine being with a 16 year old child or any child. absolutely disgusting!
it's gross that people constantly defend these things! there's no reason for an adult, even one in their early twenties, to be dating a 16-year-old.
as a lesbian teenager, i feel disgusted that predatory age gaps are consistently normalized in the queer community. a few weeks ago, a queer magazine posted a story about a young man, maybe 19-20, and his boyfriend, who was in his mid-thirties or forties. there were so many people defending that relationship, and it genuinely shocked me. there is a vast difference between a 20 & 40 year old in a relationship versus a 40 year old and a 60 year old in a relationship, even if the age gap is the same.
Recently in Taiwan, theres been a case about a really famous gay singer, he’s 32 sexually abusing his ex boyfriend who was at the time, 16 year old. A lot of people are defending the singer and shaming the 16 year old. This case got very big, where the 32 year old literally went to his ex boyfriend conference to “publicly apologize” with bodyguards. He’s a narcissist. Many people often don’t look at same sex couple but it’s very common.
Any adult going for a teenager is a predator for sure. If you were over 20, the age gap wouldn't have been so bad. I am 36 and my girlfriend is 22 and we have a very healthy relationship. We both love each other and care for each other. I only prefer women who are 21+ tho.
in the uk recently, one of our most well-known tv presenters was found to have begun an affair with a runner, who he knew from the age of 15, though their relationship didn't actually begin until he was 18 or 19. the presenter is in his 50s. and people defended this with accusations of homophobia, i saw so many comments of people saying "if the runner was a female no one would care". it's made me sick.
@@supremelymontgomeryclift3453 who is giving it a free pass? every single relationship in this video is heterosexual.
This channel has juice. Not one commercial interruption. Love the research, the details and presentation of facts. Your opinions do not sound preachy, just factual. I also love how up-to-date you are by including Dane Cook. Thanks.
With the Priscilla Presley biopic coming out soon, this video is perfectly timed! That movie looks like it'll come straight from her perspective and be based off her memoir
I was looking for this comment. Thank you.
Dig deep. There is more than meets the eye with her.
I'm a teacher and that anyone buys the 'but the child pursued me!' or 'they're so mature for their age and intelligent' excuses makes me sick.
Yeah, there are very smart 15 year olds but they aren't immune to melting over attention from someone older, famous and attractive. Speak to any kid for 5 minutes and you understand this. The ones who are desperate to make themselves look older aren't any more mature than the 15 year olds who look 10.
Also if a child has to act like an adult, that usally indicates that they lack something very important at home. Its really creepy how many adults praise a child for losing their childhood and do nothing and in worst case take advantage of the child. ❤
Not so Fun fact: Sam actually knew aaron taylor Johnson when he was a minor and got him a personal audition for the movie. She literally put herself in a position to groom him
it's disgusting. Not many people said anything about it at the time because she's a woman too. Most of the concerns about their relationship began rising a few years ago.
She said once how she saw him at a family function “in a garden and i remember just how beautiful he looked.” My God he was about 12 or 14.
@@StellaAdler_ in an interview when he was a minor she said he "oozes sexuality from every orface" 🤢🤢🤢 how is she not in prison? How is she still making movies it's sick.
Wow. I’m impressed. I read a lot about misogyny, feminism, patriarchal stuff etc… I knew about almost every one of these instances mentioned but have never seen them discussed on social media outside of just feminist circles. It’s nice to see someone make a well researched video covering this.
Curious how men rarely "click" with women with an age gap over three years older than them. Age seems to be just a number only if the woman is younger, if they're older, they're too old.
akiko matsuura groomed charlie heaton from stranger things (they met when he was 16 and she was 30, and allegedly started dating when he turned 18). she apparently got him into drugs and they have a son together. no one ever talks about it, it's weird as hell.
Omg, *WHAT?!*
wtfff
Because a lot of us don't know who akiko is. And there are some younger fans who still don't know he had a child.
Because it doesn't fit The narrative of older men going after younger women.
I dated two women that were 7 years older than me and no one cared. The first one I was 21 or 22. Of course I do not think these women took advantage of me.
Well, stranger things fans are aware of it.
The fact that Leonardo DiCaprio went out with a girl he’d known since she was 11, al Pacinos stepdaughter which is the connection he met her through being friends with Pacino. He started dating her as soon as she became 18. It’s sickening.
Why is it sickening, it's her choice and none of your business!! But I guess your OK with gay guys forcing their shit on everyone nowadays to think it's cool to be gay, and Transvestites to use the womans bathroom with you.. But age gap relations get your undies in a bunch!!
He had her birthday on his calendar and her phone number
😂
Jealous much because you have no hope of competing?
@@jayrogers754 Romeo and Juliet were 12 and 11. Young marriages have been common throughout the ages.
@phorn100 LOL...Thank you exactly!!
“In my mid, i’m forever youthful!”
Speaking as an older woman, “aging” can be very difficult to except and adjust to physically, mentally and emotionally!
With that said,
older women can still be attractive, healthy, energetic, strong, playful, alluring and sexy, but not youthful!
We owe Courtney Stodden a huge apology. I feel so bad for them.
I was so grossed out back then. I was the same age at Courtney back when Courtney got married then and I was horrified on how anyone thought it was okay.
R.Kelly really manipulated Aaliyah like crazy! she was 15 years old when she married R.Kelly who was 27 years old and to make things worse, she dropped her debut album called “Age ain’t nothing but a number” and R.kelly was in the background of the album cover.
It goes so much deeper than that. He would rape her(yes rape because she was a child when he was s full grown man). And ended up getting her pregnant, that's why they got married. He is absolutely disgusting.
@Chuuzus No matter what comment section I see you in, you always have the best takes. It makes me so happy to support you and your content knowing you interact with the world in such an upstanding way!
and people have the nerve to still play r k*llys music
What a mess he is
I think most of these men mention. Didn't really like Grown Women . Children can be taught & molded to meet the every need or wim I think they have a huge dislike for Adult Women !
Unfortunately, This will never change until men start speaking out against it… it’s always women that are having these conversations
Exactly. Women get more upset about abuse of young boys and men & grown men think it’s funny.
@@chikari123 very true. and it pisses me off
@@chikari123 This is so true. Whenever I’d see articles about a grown woman raping a teenage boy, the comments would be a bunch on men saying “good for him”, “lucky”, “he won” or other creepy things like that, but when women are talking about their abuse, they’ll try to diminish their experience by saying that men go through it too or say “why don’t you speak up about men”.
Literally...half of the population(women) cannot be the only ones doing the talking.
Men need to speak up about their fellow young boys being groomed. Instead they just make jokes and laugh and call everyone "soft." Jesus.
that's because under patriarchy , men can never refuse sexual advances and can never be sexually abused.
One of the creepiest child adult interaction was Shirley Temple with so many inappropriate interactions was baby burlesque at 3!!!! So if that’s the norm what else went on??!! It makes me believe more what happened to carol annee heather o’rourke? Perforated intestinal bowels.
💯“They aren’t dating women their own age for a reason!” ✅
Keis Jenners acceptance of Kylie Jenners relationship with Tyga confused me until I learned about her own history of dating much older men when she was 16. And the fact that Kim was married at 19 to a music producer that was 10 years older than her.
Yeah. All that is just weird, but it all stemmed from Kris, who married Robert Kardashian when she was like 17 and he was 35.
Kim was old enough, but I don’t think it was groomed it was planned lol.
Heavier stuff than that going on with the Kardashians. There's more to it.
And the man that Kim married at 19 was extremely abusive! It’s a miracle that she was able to make out alive from that situation.
@@dynastynetflixtrendso, she was absolutely groomed because to be groomed means to be groomed for abuse and the man who convinced her to marry him when she was 19 was extremely abusive and he was of course hiding how he was a monster until after Kim was trapped through marriage. All of these groomers groom both kids and adults for the purpose of being used and abused, the exact same way a pimp grooms their prey in order to abuse, use, and exploit. A 19 year old is still a child at the end of the day, as the arbitrary point of “legality” at 18 means nothing.
As a high school teacher this is so wrong. Teen girls, even older teen girls are so vulnerable in relationships. They worry about everything but their own feelings and support. Only after the relationship is over are they able to reflect on any abuse, neglect, or manipulation. Let children date children. Let these young ladies learn and grown while dating partners young and as inexperienced at themselves. They aren't dating women their own age for a reason.
Disturbing. I remember being a teen in high school and having girl friends dating men in their 20's and 40's. I always felt uncomfortable but didn't understand why, because as a teen you feel like an adult. Here in Germany now, I'm a bit uncomfortable with how many people I know have stories of teachers and students dating.
Yeah true any adult going for a teen is predatory. Age gaps are fine if the younger one is over 20. I am 36 and my girlfriend is 22 and we have a very healthy relationship. At 22, she is an adult so she is old enough at this age for age gaps to not matter anymore. I only prefer women who are 21+ tho.
Stop using hyperbolic language to prove your points.
@@LeapThroughTheSky Getting involved w/ the wrong guy at too young an age can Ruin a gal's life. Esp when that guy is decades older. My high school bestie, Saira, was a straight-A student, beautiful, smart as a whip w/ plans to go to med school & become a pediatrician. Unfortunately, she also had a Dad who abused his wife & kids. So, definitely some "daddy issues" there.
At 17, she met a guy in his late 20's, and he took her to bars, eventually grooming her for something *worse* than dating. When they broke up, his 40-something uncle immediately stepped in & became her new "boyfriend", which caused her parents to kick her out. NOT the best response, if you want to Protect your kid from abuse, but this was the 80s & therapy was less accepted than it is today.
The last time I saw Saira, she was living in a fancy apt in an exclusive part of town, and occasionally modeling for an agency that was later busted for really being an escort service. Her "boyfriend" by that time was the 80 year old dude paying for her apt. She was as gorgeous as ever, but seemed So Very Sad at the same time. I wish I'd stayed in touch, but we had little in common as we got older, then lost touch.
I've searched for her online for a couple decades now, to no avail. I pray it's just b/c she married & changed her name. No one from school has heard from her in decades, either. I pray she got out, found real love, healed from the abuse she'd suffered early on, and has a happy life now. I like to envision her as a Mom, as she had a lovely heart & was great w/ little kids. I know it's just a fantasy, but that's the life she Deserved. Not to be 23 & the kept toy of an old pervert.
WTF is So Wrong w/ so many men that they must go after teenagers? 😢
@@lostecho5318 See, your case is the "life stage" argument on top of age gap. Is your girlfriend finalcially independent? I don't know a 22yo independent like that. Does she have support system outside of you? Often meets up with friends and family? Does she have hobby she does on her own or with her group outside of you?
Those are the things that put young adults in a bad spot when dating people 10+ years older then them. If any answer to those is "no" then unfortunately you are in predatory light.
Wow I didn't realize there was such a big age gap between Winona Ryder and Johnny Depp. Crazy.
My grandmother is 9 years younger than my grandfather and is now his caretaker which has caused her to have her own terrible health problems. She told me to marry a guy my own age or even a bit younger because she would never do it over again.
Prince met his first wife when she was 16 and he was in his mid thirties. They became public when she was 19 and he was about 38 years old. They got married when she was 22 and he was in his 40s. She went on to write a book about how her marriage was to him. She went on to describe how he was very controlling and took advantage of his position as her boss (she was his backup dancer) when she did anything he didn't like. He also controlled what she ate because he didn't want her gaining weight
A lot of Prince stans that I know talk so much shit about her its so sad. :(
Wow Prince and David Bowie...bad night
@@fatimahanwaar306wtf you have a problem with Bowie marrying Iman? You’re insane. He worshiped the ground she walked on. My brother and sister are 20 years older than me. 12 years is nothing considering she was an adult for their entire relationship. Chill the hell out man.
@@fatimahanwaar306 the fact that you're going after bowie for marrying a middle aged person when he was also middle aged/elderly when the guy literally raped a 13 YEAR OLD back in the 70s... talk about priorities. stop trivializing these sorts of issues and start giving attention to the actual abusive age gaps ffs
@@juliafrare5967Fatima also accused Keanu of being a sexual predator for dating Alexandra Grant,despite the fact that both of them were adults when they met, and not just adults, middle-aged ones.
My cousin's daughter gave birth to a child just some months ago, she is 17, her husband 28 (they married when she got pregnant). My cousin and aunt encouraged their relationship, literally pushing the girl, when she was only 16, into his arms, only because they didn't have much income and needed to get rid of an extra mouth. When my mother told me the story I expressed my anger and disgust, but my mother said that it was the best choice for the girl (as if she chose it). When I asked her if that would be the best choice as well for my niece who is 18 now, her reaction was different, because my niece comes from respectful wealthy family, she is very smart and she 'deserves' brighter future. Such hypocrisy makes me sick.
Honey, that's not hypocrisy. That's just the reality of the social economics of the have, & have nots. Like it or not, your cousin did right by their child. I am going to assume you don't have any. The real job of the parent is to teach them to care for themselves. That probably was her best option, even if you stick your prim & proper nose at it.
@@kaitlyngault3987 omg, darling, how well you know me, my cousin, the society and people's mentality of the country we come from, just from one comment. Let my tell you one thing, education for females is available and free in my country, so marriage at 17 is not the only option for a girl. Immature female with small kid totally dependent on her husband and no protection from relatives invites domestic violence in 90 per cent in our society. All I can do is to hope my niece will be a part of those 10. My having or not having children has nothing to do with the situation.
why wasnt he reported for the rape of the child??
selling little girls for their parents debt is 3rd world shit. @@kaitlyngault3987
@@MsBabyChips because in my country it's not against the law to have sex with 16-year-old girl if she expressed her consent. her mother and grandmother encouraged the relationship so no one to report anything.
Your video gave me a paradigm shift. So many stars I once looked up to as a symbol of freedom and great artistry turned out to be shameless predictors without consequences.
Thanks for the intensive research.
all of these children's exploitation is horrific but the one about Brooke Shields just set me off in a fit of rage and heartbreak for her. it is freakin horrendous!!!! what the actual hell?! the press, the movie makers, the public and most vile of all her own MOTHER. no wonder she suffers severe depression. elke hond kry sy dag en ek hoop hulle s'n is pynlik en uitgerek!
How did these parents find it so easy to just sign over legal guardianship of their kids or let their children travel with these celebs? God.
Money.
@@BellesViewMakes me sick how the dumb ass parents look the other way when money is involved.
Exactly definitely were bribed very disheartening.
They are being groomed as well. Whether you believe the Leaving Neverland documentary or not, it is very well explained in it how the parents get manipulated as well. So I don't believe that all of these parents didn't care about their child and only saw the money and fame. More often than not I would suggest they are victims too.
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i’m so glad you talked about aaron taylor johnson, he is so often ignored for what that woman did to him. she makes me sick
Benjamin Wadsworth too
i literally can’t stand the sight of that woman
@@starsky1435 i haven’t heard of him, was he a nickelodeon actor too?
@@sybill123ful nah, he was on a show called Deadly Class.
@@sybill123fulhe played Kick Ass and was Pietro Maximoff in Age of Ultron.
i just feel so bad for these girls (not women!) that were preyed on by these older men. and the fact that their parents just stoof idly by and watched that happen just disgusts me further. im so glad times have changed- im so glad we're finally speaking up about these things now.
I had no idea about Patrick Dempsey situation. Wow.
Finally someone is talking about Juliette Lewis. I felt she was incredibly sexualized as well. The late 80s and early to mid 90s had this whole lolita thing going on.
Maybe tangential, but it also gives me the creeps when fully-grown adults are cast as teenagers alongside actual teenagers, and there's a love scene between characters who are the same age, but performed by actors with a really gross age gap.
Totally agree!
Yeah, I get that they call it acting. But the weird thing it is how many examples if this exist, particularly old men with very young females.
A great example is My So Called Life. I was sooooo into the show as a teen and thought that "Jordan Catalano" was 16-17 as the show depicted. It was only in recent years I found out Jared Leto was 21 and Claire was actually 14 like her character. I can't believe dozens of adults involved in the casting and production thought it was appropriate to have him be a romantic lead in that show.
I wish someone would do a tally of how man actresses and actors have their first sexual act on screen. I've heard that SO many times.
@@sovereignbrehon Great point! How did they feel about it then, and how do they feel about it now? I'd also be curious what the on-set dynamics were like, and how the actors' ages played a role in their experience.
I think it would have been interesting to mention how Henry Cavill was CRITICIZED for not allowing MBB to ask him personal questions on the set of Enola Holmes when it makes total sense that a man in his late 30´s would want to keep his relationship with his teen colleagues strictly professional…
he also dated an 19 year old when he was 32 so i’m not terribly impressed with him setting boundaries with a coworker
@@ModernGurlz seriously? Damn I didn’t know I’m disappointed he seemed like a good dude…
At least it seems like he learned.
I heard many down low stories about Cavill. Word from the kids is that he’s gay and uses female colleagues as a cover up. There’s this one guy from North London who use to tell stories about Henry when he was younger. At first I blew it off because people could make up anything but after I went on a trip with my cousin to go check out the estate of Amy Winehouse. We stopped at a gay bar and baby the teacup ran over that night. Gurl it had me blushing XD
He also shit on the women talking about their experiences with #metoo...
I'd like to add a very recent addition to this:
The sexualization of minors in kpop. It's to the point that I can not even fathom right now.
First of all, such young people go through such harsh shit at such a young age and then their own labels sexualize them to a great degree. Jungkook, wonyoung, are some of the examples, there are so, so, so many more!
A new group of girls called new jeans debuted, and as much as I've heard about how good their music is, i can't bring myself to listen to it. The way those young girls talk about adult things and seduction makes my skin CRAWL. it's NOT ok!
It needs to stop NOW.
"Why, men? Why do you do this?" Is a question I find myself asking more and more often these days.
A lot of men don't grow up. But it can be the opposite too as well. I was nine years old when our teenage neighbor consistently harassed me even had some of her friends chase me in order to bring me to her. And when I was sixteen my 28 year old teacher actually tried to kiss me, and she was a newlywed. Predators come in many forms.
Women too unfortunately
If age is just a number, than prison is just a room to these predators right?
'Do you like teenage girls?'
'... When you say teenage girls, how old are we talking?'
Anything other than 'no' is a red flag
Not if you are 15.
@@jimnonya9180which he clearly wasn’t…
Natalie Wood was set up with Frank Sinatra by her mother when she was only 14 years old and they met in secret. When I heard about this shocking story I felt so sad for the beautiful talented young actress. Frank Sinatra should have been put in jail along with many other talented muscians & artists and they got away with it until now. Stories are coming out about what really happened with Marvin Gaye his very young bride he met Janice when she was only 17 years old her mother set up the meeting. They married 3 years later when he divorced Anna Gordy
since you mentioned taylor swift and john mayer i really wish you would have also brought up her dating a 17 year old conor kennedy when she was 22!
as a 22 year old the thought of dating a 17 year old….. that’s nasty
Yeah true. No adult should date a teenager. I am 36 and my girlfriend is 22 but we have a very healthy relationship and most importantly she is an adult. I only prefer women who are 21+.
@@lostecho5318yea youre weird and immature
he was actually 18 (still dosen't make it right tho } not 17 i saw that they began dating three weeks after but yes either way its still gross
@@unah17I’m also 22 and I would feel really weird if I dated someone before their 20s regardless of the law
The parents who endorsed the relationship are horrific.
The ones who blame and disown their teenager who us being taken advantage of are even worse.
Thank you for including Johnny Depp and his horrible relationship with Winona Ryder. People are so willing to forget that to promote the mythology of his innocence.
It’s bizarre how many people are not only obsessed with that relationship but wish it continued to this day. Somehow they recognize him and Kate Moss as being inappropriate, but not the relationship with Winona who was even younger. Thank god her parents actually stepped in before they got married.
@@Ineverusemychannel I think part of it is the hero worship that keeps them from admitting that he’d done anything wrong. So many fans of Johnny Depp I talked to (argued with) didn’t seem to know that he was in his 20s when he started dated Winona, a teenager. And the ones who knew didn’t mention it.
His fans love to cover up the abuse he did and pain him as an innocent baby.
someone made a chart of all of his public relationships, google "johnny depp relationship age gaps". the women he dates get even younger as he ages. 🤢
@@neb.9489 Yes. Yes, they very much do.
This video makes me hate the world 💀 thank you for bringing attention to the abuse these children have been through.
When I was 13 years old, I had sex for the first time. She was 37, and she was my aunt's best friend, so I never said anything because I didn't want my aunt to hate me. Now that I'm 20, I feel guilty for not telling anyone.
It's so sick. I'm very sorry it happened to you.
🫂❤️
Seeing Brooke Shields sharing those things with Drew Barrymore feels like such an important moment, I’m so happy it happened ❤️
And now we have Drew kneeling in front of a paid gay actor mocking girls.
Are you happy?
@@susivarga7303 what the fuck are you on about
@@susivarga7303Huh?!.
@@susivarga7303what do u mean?
You have to include both their mothers ... they were for sure responsible for frankly pimping their daughters.
Does anyone remember that there was some online countdown for Mary-Kate and Ashley turning 18? And it was treated like it was funny. That was so gross. Also, one of them had a long relationship with a much older man (like in his 50s) when she was in her 20s. He was a French business man and I think they met because of her fashion line. I don't remember all the details, but you can look it up if you feel so inclined.
They were definitely groomed and abused at a young age
the latest countdown I saw was for Millie Bobby Brown and Olivia Rodrigo. I literally saw in real time men celebrating on Twitter when Millie turned 18 last year like wtf??? we are still doing this??
@@liliesstarlight Gross...was not aware of that. Apparently, going after barely legal girls and lusting after them before they turn 18 is still okay.
The countdown clock went even further by saying when they would be legal in what state according to that states AOC.
Wasn’t it the brother of Macron, the French president ?
To this day, I find the age gaps in Hollywood disturbing. Anywhere between 15-30 years difference is considered normal by the industry's standard. It's creepy. Its glamour though, right? The strapping older gentleman with the young blonde or brunette. That's the norm, now. It's our culture. But it began as the actions of paedophilic predators and that's where it should've stopped.
agreed
This is so sickening!!! The way the pedophilia was normalized and these people idolized by so many is truly heartbreaking. These poor children!!!
One that comes to mind is 17 yo Harry Styles dating 15 years older Caroline Flack, opening the way for multiple horrendous jokes about him liking "older women" for years
What about Liam and Cheryl?
Harry and Liam both being groomed on xfactor was disturbing to watch especially since liam later down the road had a baby by Cheryl.
Not a 1 D fan but Oh I still feel bad for the one direction boys. They were given the same idol treatment sexualized by a lot of people.
@@fatimahanwaar306wdym its better if the roles are reversed
@@fatimahanwaar306it’s so gross, but she also has a long history of dating extremely older men, so I’m not sure what to think about that one.
One of these relationships that irked me the most was Celine Dion and her husband Rene Angelil, they met when she was 12 and he was 38. He was also her manager …
Indeed.
There's a yuckier part: Angelil was originally a singer. When he decided to become a manager, he was "taught" the trade by a friend of his called Guy Cloutier, who was a successfull manager at the time.
Cloutier eventually did jail time for pedophilia. He SA a young girl he was managing, and she spoke up once she was an adult. Ironically, she and Celine were sort of rivals in Quebec at the time.
Angelil's reaction to learning his friend had SA a child always left me uncomfortable. He would just sit there and repeat "That's impossible"
The glaringly obvious pattern in these abusers is getting SO loud that it cannot be dismissed much longer.
Woody Allen, James Franco, Stephen Collins, Tom Cruise, Burt Reynolds, Terry McMillan and Bryan Singer. I am glad you mentioned Paul Walker in this video he is seen in the media as this really nice all American guy. In the case of Woody Allen, think of Brad Pitt dumping Angelina for their daughter Zarah when she is 16 yrs old! That is what Woody Allen did and Hollywood still embraces him!!
Didn't Burt Reynolds famously date the much older Dinah Shore for years?
@@jenni4claire Yes he did
I will never doubt any of this stuff to be true. My own mother used to encourage me to flirt with older men, would send older men over to me when I was only 13/14 to talk with them (I never knew what to talk about with someone 10+ years older than me), and when a 32 year old coworker of hers asked if he could take me to prom, my mother agreed and allowed him to present me with a bouquet of flowers as some sort of "promposal" back in 2014/15. I chose not to go with him and he, of course, responded very angrily and refused to even make eye contact with me when I'd go visit my mother at her job. It is wild to me that women of the past HELPED predators be predators as if young daughters were some prize to be handed over to the first older/financially stable man who crossed their path?? I mean my mother would straight up ENCOURAGE me to go "hang out in the medical library at colleges" when I was veryyyyy under age so that I could meet my 'future husband'.
The only reason this has gone on for so long is bc woman have only just begun waking up and educating themselves on manipulation and predatory behavior and how it is NOT desirable to be some mans little toy to mistreat and take out his lack of emotional intelligence out on.... why else would a 30/40 year old even WANT to date a child with zero understanding of how the world works? its wild and sad that my own mother tried to teach me to accept abuse like that. I mean she's not exactly okay herself but it's sad that she thought it was GOOD to try to raise me that way...... she literally didn't know better, just like all the women you mention here... thank god Ive always been the "crazy person" who spots manipulation tactics from a mile away.... otherwise I would've 100% been a teen bride myself 🤷♀
EDIT : thought it'd be worthwhile to mention that my mother alsooo saw no problem with flirting with my teenage male friends. shed invite them to stay later at our house to "talk" even though I said I was going to bed bc I had school in the morning (so did my male friends lmfao) pretty much she would prey on my male friends who had particularly difficult home lives and didn't want to go back to their own homes. it always felt weird to me, hearing my mom have deep convos with my 15 year old male friend at 10pm.... but now with my fully developed brain im entirely aware how inappropriate it was. past generations were deeplyyyyy intertwined in this very sick, but normalized behavior....
mind you im only in my mid twenties and I would NEVER EVER EVER WANT TO EVEN BE FRIENDS WITH AN 18 year old, let alone a 15 year old!!!!!!!!!!!!! like whaaaaaaatttttttt?!?!?! I have no desire to groom anyone?!?!?! why was this sooooo commonnnnn and accepted😭
♥️ I’m sorry you went through that. And so glad you got through it. Wishing you the best x
Tell me ur no contact with that creep
this is actually sickening🤢🤢
Ugh so sorry your mother is such a creep, hope she didn't do anything to the boys as it does sound like grooming. If this happened 2015 that isn't long ago or about past generations she totally must have understood it's wrong but didn't care.
I’m so sorry you had to go through this. Sadly there are many mothers like this who will sell their children to men for money or even drugs. It’s truly heartbreaking how a mother can do that to their own child.
Not enough people holding Wilmer accountable to. He was with Mandy Moore, Lindsay Lohan, Amanda Bynes when they were TEENS. He’s despicable
And Demi too. She even wrote the song 29 about him.
@@haze3648 yeah and he’s still gotten away with it all
I didn’t know who he was until I loved it up and he’s been in so many things I love watching, so it’s literally sickening to see that nothings been done to hold him accountable.
Danny Masterson getting convicted while Wilmer appears on That 90's Show and is producing/starring a Zorro reboot for TV is double standards at it's finest. But it's TV and that's considered like a tier lower than Hollywood, he's pretty much relegated to TV and I still believe that's not enough of a punishment.
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 Omg that angered me too! What Wilmer did was just as worse. Not to mention he had Lindsay Lohan ( who was his gf at the time) Guest star on the show.
Edward Furlong and his older ex should also be on here. Many suspect she's the one who got him into drugs and stuff. His career was never the same; neither was he. She's since changed her name but still gets to work with minors.
This was so well compiled! Well done and thank you for spreading awareness in this weird trope.