"Who “Owns” the Land?"
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- This is a short segment from SOC 119, an introductory class on race and culture that is taught by Dr. Sam Richards at Penn State University. Today's video comes from the eleventh class of the Spring 2023 semester. The live stream took place on Tuesday, February 14, 2023. The full lecture live stream is available here: • 23SP Class #11: A Sing...
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro: Explaining the activity
02:09 Anti-Immigration argument
09:04 Pro-Immigration argument
#immigration #illegalimmigration #undocumented
blood is on all land, there is no land that' hasn't been conquered from someone else
what makes "your" land yours?... your ability to defend it.
if its yours, you may have to defend it from squatters, a nation has to defend it from non citizens...
Right of conquest will always rule this world
To the Victor goes the Spoils. Be strong.
Wow this channel and professor is what college is suppose to be. Not telling you what to think. But teaching you how to think for yourself.
I like how another person on another video said "Please tell me this isnt how university is run these days" 😂 This dude is cool because he isnt afraid to piss off radicals 😂 I have had things i dissagree with but than i said my perspective here in the comments cause i think its something he would like, someone challenging him like he challenges our perspectives. 😁 Funny how conservatives say he is dumb too when they keep talking about idiological diversity being important just because they dont agree 😅
He never tells them how to think
Prof. Bro!!!
Good class and nice video.
1. The US and Mexico agreed to the border in a treaty as a result of the Mexican-American War ("Remember the Maine!!). We didn't just arbitrarily draw a line.
Very true though not many people know that the mexica leaders accepted it as it is.
The Maine was the Spanish American war Apr 21, 1898 - Dec 10, 1898. We got the Philippines and Puerto Rico.
The Mexican American war was Apr 25, 1846 - Feb 2, 1848 and we got Texas and bought American Southwest. Texas recognized the border under the Treaties of Velasco as the Rio Grande starting east of Brownsville/Matamoros. Mexico recognized the Nueces River farther north at Corpus Christi Bay. The US recognized the Texas claim when they joined the union. The 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ended the dispute, with Mexico-while under American occupation-recognizing the Rio Grande as its northern border and relinquishing by purchase what is now New Mexico, Arizona, Utah Nevada, and California.
there was more then one wave of indigenous people.
Every individual and group are trying to pursue their self-interest.
There's no objective right or wrong.
ADOS isn’t an immigrant and yes we deserve to be here as we built the country’s wealth.
When one Indian tribe went to war with another did the winning tribe keep the land of the losing tribe? Of course they did.
Nobody wants to hear common sense logic.
Also, who are we to say that Indians were the first peoples to inhabit the America's. Thatsgotta be naive at its best.
EXACTLY 💯
Everyone in the human race is Native to Africa... all land on the planet was settled and has changed hands countless times so no one people has a claim to it. Current borders and borders of the past are and have been subject to change as they are a social construct. Natives fought with eachother for lands and it changed hands between them also, not like the people sprouted from the ground there and it is their "native lands"... everyone migrated from Africa at one point🤦♀️
The whole history of land and nations is it’s yours if you can keep it. There is not a country in the world that is different in that respect. Then our founders came along and “talked” a better script that arduously we arrived at today. A free nation for any race and people. That did not happen by itself, but can we keep it?
It wasn't the United Tribes of Tortuga, they were separate nations that fought each other, Different Europeans nations made strategic alliances with different tribes and eventually codified law across the land.
The educated class can always out argue the uneducated and they had resources from another continent. French sided with the Americans in the Revolutionary war, Asians could have sided with Native Americans (in the 1500/1600's) but didn't. There used to be tribal warfare, but there are no more wars on the North American continent (though you could argue gang violence is that).
I’ve been watching a lot of these lately, and I am sad that the college kids do not bring good arguments to the table for discussion. The critical thinking skills of these students are really sad and the lack of knowledge shows every time I watch one of these videos.
My thoughts exactly. Their perspectives are uniformed and often based in anti-white racial or anti-American ideas.
Land Back. We are still here.
what is your blood quantum
One point, slavery has nothing to do with race. The first slaves in history were Slavs from Europe. Africans enslaved other Africans, Asians enslaved other Asians etc. Slavery was more an economic means.
Tribes took over land of other tribes, before native Americans, there WAS actually people in America who crossed over the ice from Siberia called the Clovis people. So his history is atrocious, but getting to the fundamentals, the fact is, nobody alive today had their land taken, nobody alive today took anyone's land. For thousands of years societies, all across the world, have recognized that assigning universal claims based on immutable group attributes is highly immoral. This came to a peak in recognition in the 20th century. So to claim one person, who didn't draw a border, owes another empathy, is logically incoherent. There's many other problems I could highlight, but sadly, much of what he does is basically finger pointing to people who have nothing to do with any historic perceived or real injustices. If a father steals a phone, it is immoral to then also lock up his son, yet this is the thinly veiled premise he's suggesting while claiming he's not, again, incoherent arguments.
oldest claimed human archaeological site in the Americas is the Pedra Furada hearths in Brazil, controversially dated to 19,000 to 30,000 years before the earliest Clovis sites.[27][28][29]
You never know do ya.
Wow!! What a powerful
All land is taken land.
I own my land if you do not like it too bad so sad.
There are still 100s of Indigenous Tribes today!!! Please talk of the tribes as they are, still alive!
Indigenous is a wishy washy statement. Everyone in the human race is actually Native to Africa... all land on the planet was settled and has changed hands countless times so no one people has a claim to it. Current borders and borders of the past are and have been subject to change as they are a social construct. Natives fought with eachother for lands and it changed hands between them also, not like the people sprouted from the ground there and it is their "native lands"... becasue as stated before, everyone migrated from Africa at one point🤦♀️
If you are claiming them being born or multiple generations being from there makes them "Indigenous" then most people alive in their countries today are Indigenous to their locale. The definition of Indigenous is something occurring naturally in a particular place and the alternative description is people's existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists... the supposed "natives" themselves colonized and settled the land as we all know everyone originates and spread from Africa
Yeah there actually exists more native americans now than when the europeans arrived
Over 500-700 US Native American Tribal Nations, Not including First Nations of Canada and Indigenous peoples of Mexico and central and south America's.
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There are certainly a lot more blue eyed blonde haired "indigenous" people today in the US than there were back then 😂
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Everyone in the human race is Native to Africa silly... all land on the planet was settled and has changed hands countless times so no one people has a claim to it. Natives fought wachother for lands and it changed hands between them also, not like the people sprouted from the ground there and it is their "native lands"... everyone migrated from Africa at one point🤦♀️
Out of Africa is an interesting idea but it lacks solid evidence. Give it a few years and it will be somewhere else
You can not come and kill everyone, then say it's yours... Crazy that you think this. You do have a moral obligation to help the people who have been oppressed.
You cannot “ own” land, no one can. We cannot own lakes, rivers or oceans
I was under the impression that the notion of Columbus mistaking the Americas for India was wrong? Wasn't India called something completely different back then, like Hindustan or Bharata? I thought what happened was that the Spaniards arrived in S. America and saw the people there in the jungle, and named them "Children of the Gods", or Indios, which later evolved to Indian. Is this wrong information?
Interesting perspective. I'd like to research this information.
For your information, Hind(Persian for Sindhu) in Greek was Indos from which the European term came from.
I mean, how about you guys think about only those Europeans who actually colonized the Americas, like Spanish, British, Portuguese, France, Netherlands. There. Leave the rest of us out of it😂
It's what I always say as an Irishman.