For my needs, it was not necessary to add plaster board between the walls. You won't find many people that build that way, but it could be done if necessary. The air gap between the two walls is much more important than the additional mass. Thanks for watching.
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I apologize for not having good information on the door jams - my contractor handled those & didn't make great notes on how they were framed. The doors were solid core so you are right in thinking the jams must be built for heavy duty. Those doors are heavy.
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@vibestouch1 There really is no cheap way of soundproofing. That said, I have a couple of recommendations that could make a difference without doing full-on construction like I did. First of all, make sure your room has a solid core door that is fully weather stripped. Secondly, have no windows. If you have windows in your room, frame & drywall over them or at least cover them over with a dense, sound absorbing material. These 2 things can make a big difference at minimal cost.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
The soundproofing works even better than I expected. You can watch my video "Building A Soundproofed Room Within A Room - Part 3" for an illustration of its effectiveness.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
Fantastic videos, very helpful. Any chance you can explain in more detail how you de-coupled the ceiling --or maybe point me to a good reference for that? Thank you.
+nmdpa3 Thanks for watching the video. I'm glad you got something out of it. I just took a quick look & found the link I will spell out below, which covers what we did for a floating ceiling to some degree of detail. Hopefully it will give you a better idea of how floating ceilings are designed. Unfortunately, CZcams won't allow a URL in my reply so please translate the last line below into a URL. world wide web dot soundproofingcompany dot com slash soundproofing101 slash room-within-a-room slash
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
@navysailorman I kind of gave up trying to figure out the cost of materials vs. labor. I think the materials came in at about $2500 - $3000. The labor... while worth it, I don't want to think about that.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
I don't understand why you compromised the room to have in wall power outlets throught the green glued double gypsum. If you wanted inwall stuff, you'd create another simple wall inside to have installations. If not, you would just do an installations runway along the walls.
Aren't you suppose to put plaster board on both sides of each wall to create two completely separate walls with a gap in between? This looks like one really thick wall to me.
Did you use a solid core door? If so, with walls as thick as these plus the drywall being de-coupled, how did you build and install the door jambs? I'm currently soundproofing a jam room in my basement for recording. I'm just trying to figure out my door jambs now. I'm intending on putting 1st layer 1/2" quietrock and then 5/8" gypsum with a layer of green glue. I already de-coupled the framework for the inner walls of the room. A little info on the door jamb framing please?
Sorry for not responding sooner. I received no notification of your comment & just noticed it while looking over my old videos. I decided that for my purposes ventilation was not a high priority. I knew that 99.99% of the time it'd just be me playing my drums in the room. I was interested in limiting the pathways for sound to escape so I went with no ventilation. I have a design in mind for adding ventilation if it's ever needed but so far it hasn't proven necessary & was the right decision for me. The choice to not include ventilation saved expense, prevented sound from getting out, & meant that I did not have to deal with building permits (where I live a permit is required only if connecting the room to the house's heating/cooling system). I did have to get an electrical permit, however.
If you don't mind could you give an esitmate of the cost....you don't have to give amount you actually paid but a range so I could get an idea if I want to start this project.....THANK YOU! Looks AWESOME
I'm just estimating here: I'd guess that if you can do all the work without requiring any contractors you are probably looking at about $3,000 for materials. Assuming you need to bring in contractors, & depending on how many are needed, I could easily see this costing up to $10,000. The thing is, there's no way for me to say with certainty what you should expect because I don't know what you can do, what kind of logistical issues you have, what your local labor costs are, etc. Thanks for watching the video & good luck with whatever you decide to do.
+pepino735 This room was built to meet the needs of my particular situation and 5 years later, I can say 100% that it worked out just fine. Had the plan been to use it as a jam space with other musicians, I would have connected it to the HVAC system in my house. That wasn't my intention, though, and have maybe 3 or 4 times over these years wished it had an air supply. 5 minutes after opening the doors that wish disappears. Obviously, depending on factors such as how someone uses their room, their local climate, and others this wouldn't work for everyone. In my case, it was the right choice. Thanks for watching.
+md4man I think this is awesome & it shows a pretty good guideline for those who want to build an sound proof room! I have one question? 1.) Would there be any BETTER effect if instead of the regular insulation between studding you put up something like a Roxul Safe & Sound between them? Or would it really not matter? I can not figure out... If YOU are more of a "carpenter" type guy that just got the sound advice from more of a sound expert. Or is your a "sound" type guy that just knows how to do carpentry lol? Who knows maybe your BOTH like me I like to jack all trades! But yeah that is the one question I had! Thanks
+Wise DaGod I know that as soon as I say this, someone will point out how wrong this is, but when you consider the cost of (for example) Safe & Sound compared to the insulation we used, I don't think the small bit of improvement would be worth it. So yes, you will probably get slightly better results with more specialty-type materials but I'm happy with my results and the cheaper materials used. To be clear, the guy speaking in the video was not me. It was the designer & builder. I'm just the guy he built it for. I can speak to his background, though. He is a long time construction worker who also studied studio design in his spare time. He has mostly moved away from general construction & now most of his work is studio & soundproofing related. So I guess I'd say he was a general carpenter who developed knowledge, skills, and eventually a business in a niche field. Thanks for watching!
Hey man I did my room ( actually in the MIDDLE of the Build right NOW) I am having "uncertainties" about what to do with the space by the door/door jamb? I am not doing double doors or a double wall, I am just doing a single wall with resilient channels on inside but, its still the SAME thing the resilient channel leaves a 1 1/2 gap! I know that you cover it up with trim but, did you do any "sealing" underneath the trim around the door? I am thinking about putting a 1x 2 piece of wood in between the space fitted to where it is like 1/4 inch from touching the wood framing then just backer rod (neoprene) & caulk! What did you & your guy do & do you know what is regularly done in this area? I feel like it just leaves such a "vulnerable" spot for sound to leak out around the door! I searched everywhere can not find out what to do.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
For my needs, it was not necessary to add plaster board between the walls. You won't find many people that build that way, but it could be done if necessary. The air gap between the two walls is much more important than the additional mass. Thanks for watching.
Why cant my drummer be this awesome
It creates that much more air space & decouples the drywall from the studs, thus reducing the amount of sound transmitted outward.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
I apologize for not having good information on the door jams - my contractor handled those & didn't make great notes on how they were framed. The doors were solid core so you are right in thinking the jams must be built for heavy duty. Those doors are heavy.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
@vibestouch1
There really is no cheap way of soundproofing. That said, I have a couple of recommendations that could make a difference without doing full-on construction like I did. First of all, make sure your room has a solid core door that is fully weather stripped. Secondly, have no windows. If you have windows in your room, frame & drywall over them or at least cover them over with a dense, sound absorbing material. These 2 things can make a big difference at minimal cost.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
The soundproofing works even better than I expected. You can watch my video "Building A Soundproofed Room Within A Room - Part 3" for an illustration of its effectiveness.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
Fantastic videos, very helpful. Any chance you can explain in more detail how you de-coupled the ceiling --or maybe point me to a good reference for that? Thank you.
+nmdpa3 Thanks for watching the video. I'm glad you got something out of it.
I just took a quick look & found the link I will spell out below, which covers what we did for a floating ceiling to some degree of detail. Hopefully it will give you a better idea of how floating ceilings are designed. Unfortunately, CZcams won't allow a URL in my reply so please translate the last line below into a URL.
world wide web dot soundproofingcompany dot com slash soundproofing101 slash room-within-a-room slash
You can watch my "Building A Soundproofed Room Within A Room - Part 3" video for ideas on how to control that echo.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
@navysailorman
I kind of gave up trying to figure out the cost of materials vs. labor. I think the materials came in at about $2500 - $3000. The labor... while worth it, I don't want to think about that.
The hat channel is wasted expense, if your doubled walls are in fact decoupled.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
I don't understand why you compromised the room to have in wall power outlets throught the green glued double gypsum. If you wanted inwall stuff, you'd create another simple wall inside to have installations. If not, you would just do an installations runway along the walls.
Aren't you suppose to put plaster board on both sides of each wall to create two completely separate walls with a gap in between? This looks like one really thick wall to me.
Did you use a solid core door? If so, with walls as thick as these plus the drywall being de-coupled, how did you build and install the door jambs? I'm currently soundproofing a jam room in my basement for recording. I'm just trying to figure out my door jambs now. I'm intending on putting 1st layer 1/2" quietrock and then 5/8" gypsum with a layer of green glue. I already de-coupled the framework for the inner walls of the room.
A little info on the door jamb framing please?
hey bro i love it,,,, but how can go about this for band room wats the ceapest way out?
great build man. im looking to build a hometheater in my basement. did this whole set up cost roughly 5k?
Why not use rockwool?
No ventilation?
Sorry for not responding sooner. I received no notification of your comment & just noticed it while looking over my old videos.
I decided that for my purposes ventilation was not a high priority. I knew that 99.99% of the time it'd just be me playing my drums in the room. I was interested in limiting the pathways for sound to escape so I went with no ventilation. I have a design in mind for adding ventilation if it's ever needed but so far it hasn't proven necessary & was the right decision for me. The choice to not include ventilation saved expense, prevented sound from getting out, & meant that I did not have to deal with building permits (where I live a permit is required only if connecting the room to the house's heating/cooling system). I did have to get an electrical permit, however.
It's certeainly big enough for one though :) I was just thinking if you had more people in with you that might become a little Hot!! :P
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If you don't mind could you give an esitmate of the cost....you don't have to give amount you actually paid but a range so I could get an idea if I want to start this project.....THANK YOU! Looks AWESOME
I'm just estimating here: I'd guess that if you can do all the work without requiring any contractors you are probably looking at about $3,000 for materials. Assuming you need to bring in contractors, & depending on how many are needed, I could easily see this costing up to $10,000. The thing is, there's no way for me to say with certainty what you should expect because I don't know what you can do, what kind of logistical issues you have, what your local labor costs are, etc.
Thanks for watching the video & good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Great video and THANKs...Hell of a job,
@md4man thanks men bless!!!!
so you won't have an air supply in that room? good luck buddy...
+pepino735 This room was built to meet the needs of my particular situation and 5 years later, I can say 100% that it worked out just fine. Had the plan been to use it as a jam space with other musicians, I would have connected it to the HVAC system in my house. That wasn't my intention, though, and have maybe 3 or 4 times over these years wished it had an air supply. 5 minutes after opening the doors that wish disappears. Obviously, depending on factors such as how someone uses their room, their local climate, and others this wouldn't work for everyone. In my case, it was the right choice.
Thanks for watching.
+md4man I think this is awesome & it shows a pretty good guideline for those who want to build an sound proof room! I have one question?
1.) Would there be any BETTER effect if instead of the regular insulation between studding you put up something like a Roxul Safe & Sound between them? Or would it really not matter?
I can not figure out... If YOU are more of a "carpenter" type guy that just got the sound advice from more of a sound expert. Or is your a "sound" type guy that just knows how to do carpentry lol? Who knows maybe your BOTH like me I like to jack all trades! But yeah that is the one question I had! Thanks
+Wise DaGod I know that as soon as I say this, someone will point out how wrong this is, but when you consider the cost of (for example) Safe & Sound compared to the insulation we used, I don't think the small bit of improvement would be worth it. So yes, you will probably get slightly better results with more specialty-type materials but I'm happy with my results and the cheaper materials used.
To be clear, the guy speaking in the video was not me. It was the designer & builder. I'm just the guy he built it for. I can speak to his background, though. He is a long time construction worker who also studied studio design in his spare time. He has mostly moved away from general construction & now most of his work is studio & soundproofing related. So I guess I'd say he was a general carpenter who developed knowledge, skills, and eventually a business in a niche field.
Thanks for watching!
Hey man I did my room ( actually in the MIDDLE of the Build right NOW) I am having "uncertainties" about what to do with the space by the door/door jamb? I am not doing double doors or a double wall, I am just doing a single wall with resilient channels on inside but, its still the SAME thing the resilient channel leaves a 1 1/2 gap!
I know that you cover it up with trim but, did you do any "sealing" underneath the trim around the door? I am thinking about putting a 1x 2 piece of wood in between the space fitted to where it is like 1/4 inch from touching the wood framing then just backer rod (neoprene) & caulk!
What did you & your guy do & do you know what is regularly done in this area? I feel like it just leaves such a "vulnerable" spot for sound to leak out around the door! I searched everywhere can not find out what to do.
One of the Best Ideas of SoundProofing is "SoundProof Curtains" it actually Block outside Noise coming from Windows. Check Here: livesoundproof.com/best-soundproof-curtains/
Did you seal the electrical outlets also?
too kuch blah blah bla chit chat useless crap