Soundproofing A Room (It's Easier Than You Think)
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I have zero plans to soundproof a room but clicked out of curiosity. Because this guy was incredibly entertaining and a good teacher, I ended up watching the whole video and feel confident I could do this... not as well as him, but confident enough to actually try. Really good video!
(its easier than you think)... proceeds to use 10 different tools and materials for each gap of possible sound leakage.
Yeah same haha, i will most likely never do this, super interesting and fun to watch =)
Don't.. In order to build a "soundproof" room, you have to first conduct a noise study so you know what you're dealing with.
If you want to build a "soundproof" room, I highly suggest you contact an acoustic engineer that will help you first conduct a noise study and THEN they can give you the build plans on what materials and wall construction you need. EVERYONE's situation is different. So, there's no one wall design that will work for everyone.
I can point you in the direction of a company that WILL help you figure out what will work, but the design services does cost money, BUT, in the end, they will guarantee the design, as long as you give them the proper noise data they need to work with.
But to just automatically go by someone's design without a noise study, then the likelihood that you are going to fail is high, and you'll waste money and time because the end result won't work. Word to the wise, talk to a professional that goes by noise study data in YOUR situation first..
Yeah. He's kind of the "Bob Ross" of dry walling 😄
@@franciscoschwarz6451 I don't know if that's a good thing.
You are coupling the drywall directly to the studs through the screws, eliminating pretty much anything you gain from trying to control the air by sealing up the room or any efforts to decouple with the greenboard. Then you are defeating the air control by having a bunch of 6" holes from the hvac that just lead to the other side of the drywall (your only real soundproofing here) and further defeating the soundproofing. Ultimately you are going to have an STC of MAYBE 45, which is barely better than what using 5/8" drywall and pink fluffy insulation would give you on a standard wall with no other measures. You have to decouple the surface of the inside wall from the framing or the sound will just travel to other rooms through the coupled surfaces. For the amount of effort and cost here, you could have just added a second layer of 5/8" drywall to all walls and ceilings and gotten ~50STC. Add in some properly installed resilient channel and some green glue between the layers of 5/8" drywall and get that number up around 60STC, or better, do isolation clips and hat channel and get it above 65STC. Or if you have the space, just do fully decoupled walls with an air gap and get over 70STC. Then use the air control measures (caulking, fireputty on boxes, etc) to not slip backward in your rating. Then either go with a high mass duct with a muffler to stop the sound from traveling to the rest of the house through the ducts, or better, use a mini-split system for hvac inside the soundproof shell. And finally, if you want to keep the higher STC from all the efforts, you need a door system that also has a high STC rating. Usually the easiest is double solid core doors with the inner frame decoupled from the outer frame, but there are some high density solutions that allow for a single door with decent STC rating.
I'm sure it "sounds" quieter because if all you are doing is testing with a voice, all you are measuring is the high frequencies which are easy to defeat. The system you showed here will do nothing to stop even a modest subwoofer from being heard clearly in the next room, and very little for all the other frequencies below about 5khz. There are some great measurements of various soundproofing methods on soundproofingcompany.com's website. And there is a couple really good (and really long) threads on AVS forum with great info from professional theater builders if you are interested in learning about real sound proofing techniques. One resounding piece of information you learn if you do any research on this subject at all is that all it takes to defeat the whole system is making the mistake of using screws that are too long. Contractors don't feel that screwing drywall into a flimsy piece of steel is enough, so they get longer screws and drive it into the stud, defeating any kind of resilient channel or other decoupling methods.
What do you recommend for a sing door solution?
@@HoundDogCatia Make your door the same way you made your wall. A sandwich of materials. Use a commercial closer and a pull handle instead of standard hardware.
This was very insightful! Thanks for taking the time to write that out.
Highest quality CZcams comment of all time right here.
This comment is very good. Fully decoupling all walls and ceiling and floor is the first step. If that’s not possible then you’re never going to achieve anything close to Soundproof. I don’t hate the idea of this Sonopan type product though. I think green glue is overpriced nonsense so I’d be more likely to use this as a layer between 5/8 drywall.
I love how the audio quality of the video slowly gets better as you work 😂 great job!
Haha, I noticed that too…less and less background noise
@@MrVisdeit's not as much less outside noise, it's more like a smaller space with less reverb.
You make things so simple. It seems everything is just a somewhat complex progression of very simple steps. Nothing a flow chart can't handle. Thank you, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
My first boss would say "our job is just a bunch of the little things linked together."
So much of the world is simple. But not easy.
He makes things simply wrong. Read the other comments about all the mistakes he has made.
mhm learned that during my HVAC class stuff seems really complicated but in reality if you slow down and think its simply just a lot of steps.
I've just started my renovation at home and will be soundproofing my new study. Absolutely cannot wait.
"Use every ounce of integrity you have in your body." Love it.
only 2 things you can control in life. how you spend your money and how you spend your time. time without integrity is like having holes in your wallet as it pertains to money!
Thats why I only smoke tegridy weed. You may find other weed but they dont have tegridy
I could watch this stuff all day. I love your matter of fact but also light hearted presentation of incredible knowledge.
I just used harbor freight moving blankets because they were 5$ each for a 10’x20’ blanket. Plus theyre mold and fire resistant. So i just used them behind the drywall and overtop of the drywall i used a berber carpet with a 1/4 inch matt that i used carpet glue to fasten it to the walls.. berber is also fire and mold resistant.. the room was for this couples kids after they get them a drumset and full stack amp with guitar. Thats 8x12” speakers driven with 1k watts.. and apparently they can play all night and parents can sleep without being bothered.. only bad part is the room gets extremely hot really fast.. the room had no central heating or air. Only used a window ac unit and space heater. Which the kids put a temperpedic foam mattress chunk to cover the window when they play so it holds the heat in.. holds the smell of those boys also.. so does their rooms though so isnt the room.. but gets ripe in there ill say myself. But they were all extremely happy with it and didnt have to charge them for the 5grand worth of material i saved using what i did.. the electrical boxes i used the sonoboard however just because of the electrical and kept it all up to code. Inspector himself said hes never seen anybody use moving blankets but when i showed him the materials used he agreed they use the same fire resistant chemical to treat the blankets as they use on cellulose insulation which technically makes it approved for use behind drywall in finished areas in residential applications.. go figure right..?
It works. I am going to be putting in a master suite in what is currently a 25X50 room in my upstairs area. Going to use 2" foam in quite a few area's with sheetrock over that to help stiffen the sheetrock as well as a bit of sound deadening but may slip a moving blanket between the foam and the studs. I would love to be a fly on the wall in 50 years when some kid gets pissed off and punches the sheetrock only to break their hand though. It doesn't sound like a ton but the foam is stiff enough that with the sheetrock bonded on it's going to be some tough stuff, lol.
For the kids in the place suggest making an air baffle, basically build a maze out of wood and insert some thick carpet on the inside to deaden the noise. This way they can have a fan or two in the windows and have some airflow but not have an issue with a ton of noise coming out. Those convoluted foam sheets would work really well as well to deaden the noise. I actually came up with this for a 1U server to mount in a room but not be so loud you can't think. Yes it's a problem, some 1U servers can put out up to 95DB and in a room with tile floors it will drive you batty unless you are nearly deaf or beyond. For a window you may want to attach on a couple toilet flanges to a hole drilled and then use some flexible HVAC ducting for the air so you can draw in from the ceiling. I am doing something similar with a cheap solar collector I made to help heat my front room and save some cash.
What did I just read.
@@smoketheevilpipe grammar nightmare
Functions as a rehearsal space. Most the time a.c. would be fine as long as you dont Mic it.
Great story and advice. I bet if you made it underground you could save a ton of money on soundproofing. It would help to keep it cooler. But the issue of having a studio space that wont get too warm especially if it
Hey brother, love your videos and just wanted to share a tip I came up with when using those spray foam cans. Like you mentioned, not everyone has an expensive foam gun, but you can get a roll of plastic tubing in bulk for pretty cheap and cut a few lengths of it to fit on the tip that comes on foam cans. It's cheap, flexible, and keeps the can in an upright position. Not something a professional would use, but if you're the type that does your own work I think it's a handy thing. Additionally the tubing has many other uses, like bleeding brake lines by yourself. Hope this tip helps someone out there, and thanks for your dedication to spreading knowledge through your videos!
Great tip!
when he stood in the corner about to seal the green board, the acoustic change in his voice was astonishing. Such a cool project!
Not gonna sound like that once the drywall is installed, lol. SONOpan is a gimmick.
Sir, I watched and loved some of your videos. It’s not easier or easy at all. I can be done diy or hopefully can be done with some guidance from videos like yours. Decoupling everything is the number 1 step. Your installation and air seals are really good. You can accomplish about half of soundproofing with your technique in this video.
I have used this channel for every DIY project , renovating my basement; and it is the best.
Hi Jeff, just to let you know that my local Pont Masson building store in Alfred Ontario carries Sonopan. I'm in the process of finishing my entire basement, all DIY. I got to give a shout out to the 2 delivery guys that brought 150 sheet of 5/8" and 20 1/2" mold drywall down to the basement in an L shape stairway. That's over 5 tons of drywall, definitely worth the extra delivery price which was quite reasonable. You are my number 1 source of information for whatever task I'm currently working on. Love the A to Z series you have. Cheers ☺
I greatly appreciate the care and detail you put into this job.
Sonopan with the 2x6 + the 2x4 framing is how I'm doing my basement this summer based on your old video. Luckily I'm in Wisconsin and the CA border is about 6-7 hours away. Planning to make a road trip to Home Depot in the near future haha.
Love it! I have to get started on mine. Looks like everything ya need in one table! And it moves around for ya. Amazing.
Well watching this helped me decide its worthless to fuss with soundboard with my current job. really hammered in that with how much would be unsealed. No use wasting my time and the client's money.
13:05 - 13:30 might be the longest "That's what she said" line I've heard in my life. I almost started clapping, dude.
Also, great job!
Just a slight correction: adding insulation doesn't add much mass to the ceiling (or wall). The reason you add insulation is to stop sound reverberation inside the ceiling (or wall) cavity which essentially amplifies the sound. 5/8 inch drywall is for adding mass and what the green board does is isolate the drywall from the ceiling structure to prevent sound vibrations traveling from the drywall to the ceiling joists and the floor above.
The Sonopan is also absorbing a lot of the sound waves, and it adds a different density in the mix. You end up with a mix of metal, compressed fiber, fiberglass insulation, drywall and wood. The more the merrier, in here this means that none of these materials have exactly the same frequency to resonate at and amplify. I would have liked to see him acoustiseal/or greenglue the Sonopan to the studs/strapping for better decoupling.
The structural "weakness" of having so many layers of strapped ceiling makes for a more wobbly structure and then less direct sound transfer paths.
I just really dont trust the guy in this video. Somethings he says is true, but he says a lot of nonsense also, and it's bad to give false information to viewers
Insulation adds shit off mass to your wall. Quadruple mass. That's why the insulation works. The more mass, the more dense the wall is. And inturn more mass to vibrate to make and carry the sound waves. Mass and density is what what you want for this application.
I like sound proof baton. With mold and for board, and sound dampening foam with acoustical foam visible. Then you check it with a white noise meter
Idk if I'll be able to post a video but you can see it on me page, a few reels ago
@@jpcc815 actually i work as an engineer in acoustics so I know when people say stuff that's not correct
@@troelsnielsen2848 He actually has a video from a couple years back where uses hat tracks with iso clips to decouple and mass loaded vinyl with 2 layers of 5/8" drywall with Green Glue between the sheets. This video is not as accurate.
I’m a musician In a small town looking to buy a home soon and being around home renovation with my dad and the prospect of fixing it up already, I’m planning on putting a studio in at some point, thank you for this tutorial
"Use every ounce of integrity in your body" - Great advice for many of life's tasks! Thanks for another great video!
Agreed. 👍
Thank you for making all these videos and I’ve learned some things over the years. I’ve also done studio installations and one of the biggest challenges is separating HVAC systems. You have not stated that this is a separate system, and if it is part of the whole house, all the sound will go through the vents. You are correct in stating with this type of soundproofing that one needs to do 99 to 100% for it to be effective, basically waterproof and air proof. Just as an aside, someone who is spending so much money to sound proof may also be interested in the acoustical performance of such a room, non-parallel walls make a huge difference in standing waves in the lower base regions and upper mid regions of Audio. selling a new construction tilted ceiling and flared walls will reduce the amount of Acoustical diffusers, needed and much room treatment which can run into the thousands and I really just a Band-Aid on a bad sounding room. Audio file and contractor :-)
Was just about to comment before I saw this... If that supply duct is connected to a central HVAC system, then it will transmit the sound throughout the house. I did a somewhat poor job sound insulating my basement music room knowing that I had two ducts in there that I couldn't block off. When I'm upstairs, most of the high freq that you hear are coming through the ducts.
I completely agree. Should put in a separate Split heat pump for heating and cooling. Res bar is generally used for strapping as well. I'd also omit pot lights and go for perimeter up lighting.
@@PeterPug You can get inline duct mufflers, which is basically a tube, roughly two or three feet long, which expands in diameter from the connection points on either end, with the inner surface in the expanded segment covered in acoustic foam. The idea is, as the sound bounces around down the duct, when it goes through the muffler section, the reflection is reduced. My understanding is that it helps primarily with higher frequency noise. They're often used to reduce the noise from fans, but should work for any noise going through the duct.
I'm going to show my neighbor who sings opera this. Now I know why some people hate opera. Thank you!
Sweet. Finally. Now, the kids will never hear my screams of disappointment.
Great video. I’m ok with the algorithm recommendation as I don’t have any plans to make sound proof room, but it sounds like a good idea. The only criticism I can offer is to always make sure to seal duct seams with mastic or foil tape - especially if you are focusing on ensuring efficiency of systems during any build.
Thank you for the detailed video Jeff and the demonstration. It's well appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Your soundproofing video reminded me of back in the 1980s a musician friends dad who was VP for a large corporation in Illinois told me. He said "They told me they'd play better if they had better instruments, so I bought them $5000 worth of equipment. But they only got louder so I had to spend $15,000 to build a soundproof room so I didnt have to listen to them"
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I appreciate next gen fiberglass but ive been storing mineral wool outside under tarps for 6 months and nothing has gone after it and it looks new. No slump and much easier to install alone. Easier to install in general but the idea that I dont have to worry about it compressing over time is great peace of mind. Makes me feel like im investing rather than just getting it done
That slight air gap between the green board and drywall will actually noticeably improve low frequency sound reduction/sound proofing. Kudos my friend.👍
Great presentation, great vídeo, great soun, great cut. Great time watching, thank you!
I’m practically homeless, yet here I am watching how to soundproof something I’ll never have. Lol
Use it to soundproof someone else’s house and make some money
Well done on both the construction work and the video. I used to work construction for 15 years before I switched careers to become a video producer, so I can tell a good tradesman and a good video producer when I see it.
Oh man I'm gonna be soundproofing a cabin and this was exactly what I was looking for, thanks
I find these videos fascinating. I’m not in the market but I’ve learned a lot, should the need arise. Thank you
Knowing the end from the beginning is a good advice, strategy and insight!
Great video. Been in the business for 20 years. Alot of trades think they’re superior to the next trade… so they’ll do whatever they need/want to in order to facilitate their own work, not thinking about the next trade (or previous one) in the process. And when they encounter an issue, like the gov’t, they’ll blame their predecessor - the trade before them… just an observation lol
YOUR KING! Love you man, Wish we had Sono Panel here in the US.
Very thorough, and professional work that is quick and efficient! You can come work on my house anytime if I could afford it!
really enjoy watching you you taught me some stuff I fell two and a half stories cleaning gutters so now I am making ax handles jewelry things like that but I really appreciate you oh and I'm doing so suji ban and making desk I got these neighbors they complain every time I make a little step it's ridiculous so I seen this soundproofing I'm really thinking about soundproofing my apartment lol oh yeah I just got me a circular saw I've done landscaping for 19 years so I usually don't circular saw anything might need to check out one of your video lol thanks
This was very useful when building my dungeon. Thank you good sir. 😊
I’m new to your channel, but the few videos I have watched have been very educational and helpful even after being experienced for 40 years myself. Great video!
One question I have is in regards to vapor barrier on the exterior walls. I was taught at a young age to install my vapor barrier between the concrete wall and the newly constructed stud wall. We simply secured it to the bottom of the joists and then some spots of liquid nails on the concrete walls. Then down to the concrete floor and out past the new wall by about a foot. I was always under the impression that this protected studs, insulation, etc. I’m always willing to learn new techniques and tips. Please advise if I’m missing something. Again, great video!
Thanks much!
Thank you for the video, very informative.
Just dropped by to say your air guitar technique in the thumbnail is A-tier. Must've noodled a 6 string once or twice before.
dude I appreciate you!! Helped me gain confidence !!!
Hello!
A very useful video, especially the fact that you focus on the maximum insulation of all gaps and technical holes. You're showing a movie theater room, which usually has built-in speakers in the wall and ceiling. Quality speakers are very deep. I wanted to know how you do in this case.
Thank you!
I am so much interested in viewing your videos and I caught some information about good results on my apprenticeship
Thanks for all the details!
Hey Jeff. i'm a cheap bar steward when it comes to material costs (Pink fluffy vs brown wool) and when we did our units for rentals our drywall contractor said the same thing, plus we did 2 layers of 1/2" board. At the time I don't think that sonoboards were on the market (or at least at a reasonable price) and the alterative was that fancy metal strapping that is a nightmare to install. Overall, lot less noise between the units and no issues/complaints. Liking those Sonopan simply from a DIY perspective.
and it is quite economical as well.
It seems to be an increase in people building sound proof generator sheds.
I'd like to see your take on one, because I've seen some pretty good ones, but I'm sure yours would be a level up!
took out a drop ceiling 5 years ago, used rez channel and rockwool sound insulation, wish I would of known about this at the time.
Your a great teacher, very informative
Thanks for the video, great information as always! Unrelated, some dude's oversized basement is perfectly soundproofed, yet I can't find a house. Can't imagine how much more rich they are to have this all done custom.
Looks good. A little overkill for my tastes but at some point may end up picking up a place that is split into two apartments and will do something to help the noise not transfer from one side to the other.
I do have to say your option for draining the hose bib is more of a pain than my solution. I installed a PEX distribution block and the more I use it the better I like it. I can shut off my hose bib, take a air compressor with a blow nozzle, pull the line out of the distribution block and blow all the water out of the line. Makes my life too easy as one thing that I installed as well is an outdoor shower. Yep it seems odd but if you are outside working you can do a quick rinse to cool off any time and don't have to pull out a hose and when you are a complete mess from crawling in the mud or under a house or whatever you can shower outside instead of dragging it all through the house. Plus in the summers here it's easily in the 100's and the feel of a nice shower with a little breeze is such a good feeling.
Oh, one other thing that is helpful with a distribution block which I just dealt with not long ago is draining out my water heater. We all know that there is calcium build up in most water heaters so I removed the crappy plastic valve but to get the water out was a MAJOR pain. I had it gravity draining overnight and there was still 10 or 15 gallons of water inside it because of the sediment blocking the valve. I took an empty hot water port and applied some compressed air, naturally the cold water feed valve to the water heater was off along with all the faucets. The water drained out very well and when I put in the 3/4 full port valve I was able to get a couple pounds of sediment out by filling partway with some water and then boosting the pressure with compressed air like you would have on a well pump reservoir tank. Tip the tank and shake it around a bit and then open the valve and sediment be gone. Figuring that out made me realize that I will use a distribution on every house I do from now on because I can take and drain the water heater, shut the house water off, pressurize the water heater then use that pressure to effectively drain all the water lines just by opening the faucet valves till air comes out. Hard to beat having 40 gallons of air at 50 psi to clear the lines!!!
I am currently installing Sonopan on basement ceiling for a client. Messy stuff to cut, but light and easy to install
Loving this!
1:20 I can remember when I was a kid and running around attics installing duct work. Good times. Never had an issue with the insulation, but a lot of people do. Glad their is something those with baby soft skin can handle.
In Australia Bardford make an insulation product called SoundScreen it's an R2.5 and it is specially made to block sound, worked a treat in my studio.
No gloves. No goggles. No mask. Just raw dogging that ceiling fiberglass.
As for wall soundproofing, IF you can afford to lose some space, building double walls with a space (like 1/2 inch) between so they do not touch, works great for preventing sound transmission. It’s the method used in apartments to separate units from each other.
Edited - I was forced to add to the original comment, because a few people couldn’t comprehend the idea that this was only an additional suggestion of another method used for sound proofing and I used apartments as the example. Perhaps apartments wasn’t the best example, but condo’s use the same methods and you usually don’t hear the neighbors. It’s only a part of the equation for creating a sound proofed room. Logically speaking, if you hit the 2x framing member in the wall, the sound will vibrate through to the opposite room that shares that wall, no matter how much sound proofing insulation is in that wall. You can use sound deadening caulks between two sheets of drywall and this can help, but you still have the potential for sound to vibrate through. Everything working together - 1)a double wall. 2)sound proof insulation. 3)doubling up drywall. 4)caulking any and all wall penetration and joints. Finally, there is a metal channel drywaller’s use that help separate the drywall from the stud wall to aid in the prevention of sound transmission. This is usually purchased at a drywall supply company. I’m sure there are other methods and materials out there, but again, this was only meant as an additional method. I don’t think that’s too difficult to comprehend.
Apartment sound proofing isn't the best.
@@vanderumd11
Who said it was?
It was meant as another example of preventing sound transmission through building materials, which is probably the main culprit for sound moving through walls. If they’re not touching, then you eliminate a large source.
If you're going to cite apartments as an example of "great soundproofing," you need to expect people who have lived in apartments to laugh at you. Apartments soundproof about as well as one ply cardboard.
@@Xanthelei
Most likely in low end apartments. In high end and condos, you have a far superior soundproofing experience.
@Michael Patterson Guess which one the majority of people are going to experience. I'll give a hint: it's not the one that requires you make 100k a year. Thus citing "apartments" without specifying "high end" is defaulting to the baseline, which has terrible sound isolation between units.
Looks easy. I'll get right on that.
First video I have watched and I just love the narration lol. Have to sub for that.
Thank you for the details... More experience and less talk👍
i brought some into US PNW. Love it. Have 50 extra that I need to use or get rid of
Its even harder than i think...
My ex used to tell me this. Now, after watching this video, I finally understand....❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊
@HomeRenovVisionDIY thanks for another great video. Quick question: Can we do fire-rated ceiling panels on top of Sonopan instead of drywall? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
That is some extreme editing. Perfect transitions and sentences. Nice! Pretty wild to put your team through that 😂 cheers!
It's a pretty common feature in most video editing software. It just automatically removes parts of the video that have no audio
3,5,7 my friend. Workst every time
Sealing, rockwool, staggered studs, mass load vinyl
I’ll be starting on my small studio build in my garage, and I’ve been prepping for a solid year. I think I’ve watched every single “soundproofing” video he’s made. And, it’s borderline nauseating that HD doesn’t carry Sonoran in the states. There’s nothing even REMOTELY comparable (that I know of) to use. So, I’m stuck with the drywall/MLV/ method. Given that it’s in the garage I don’t have to get crazy with multiple layers, but its still a lot of work. Thankfully, Jeff has me feeling extremely confident, moving forward. Frankly, it’s the framing that still has me a little confused. But, he’s got a video on that, as well. Thanks Jeff!!! P.S. Short of us hounding our local HD to carry Sonoran, you should hit them from your end, and show all the requests/complaints in America of guys that can’t get it. You’d think they’d sell more of it in the states than CA. But, I digress….
Cheers Phil, There are tons of great products yet to make it into the stores. Hopefully it will be available one of these days. Home depot is not taking my calls yet. LOL
Of course they're not taking your calls... They can't even keep their existing stock on the shelves, never mind something new that makes sense.....smh. Carry on with the "good fight", Jeff!
Don't worry, SONOpan doesn't actually do anything that justifies its price. Use drywall on resilient channels, have a better end product, and stop buying gimmicks sold by companies that don't understand acoustics.
Lowes sells basically the same shit. Cellulose based sound board. The blonde/natural colored one has less treatment and what you want to look for (rather than the black version).
@@myopiczeal Sorry for the late reply...you're right, I don't think too many people will argue with that. The problem I have is that this is a one man job, and lifting/cutting plywood and drywall is next to impossible to do by yourself, or I'd got that route in a heartbeat. So, I'm going to have to find a way to get creative. Fortunately, I have a garage. So, as far as disturbing the neighbors (or anyone in the house), I don't have to get to crazy to make what will be a semi-enclosed drum room. But, yes, I hope someday to do it "right", and go that route. Thank you for the comment.
Great video as always 👍
I love the high ceiling in the basement.
Thanks so much
I love this video. You say easier than you think. But it isn't. It still is about the details 100% Love this video! Do we get to see the finished room?
Great info !!! Cheers 👍😃😎🫥
When I have to use a can of spray foam and the location does not allow me to hold the can upright to maximize the use of the air inside, I simply attach a length of clear plastic tubing to the nozzle (2", 4", 6" . . . Whatever length I need).
This was really helpful Jeff, thank you.
I'm having a Morton home built (post-frame construction). I'm tucking in a 14x24 media room on the main level. It will be on a concrete pad, 2 walls are post-frame exterior, one wall is against the garage, the last has a door and is against the house. Electric fireplace for heating. What would be your recommendations for a STC 50 rating walls, door, and ceiling?
I'm slightly confused 🤔. But I do recall that you posted a recent "build your own floating cabinets" in this finished theater room. Glad you are still showing the shorter(!!😐) videos.
Shivering 🖤🔔,👍 each time you publish.
The floating cabinets were in the main room. This is a room off of it. Cheers!
You could use furring channel (Hat track) used to frame drywall ceilings instead of the 2x3 strapping over the green board. But only screw it on one side so it can take some of the vibrations.
First and foremost, thank you for everything you do. You've saved me a ton of money and instilled a ton of knowledge.
My question, however, is when creating a dividing wall and adding sonopan would you add it to both sides or is one enough. The wall is dividing me from a second unit im creating.
This was great, it gave me lots of ideas. Really helpful video, thanks. I have a converted garage which I want to make as soundproof as I can. It already has insulation and drywall so im wondering if i build on top of that, or strip it all back and go with the fibreglass and greenboard right from the masonry. Any suggestions?
Interesting with that type of backer. Typically, we use channels and flexible caulking for sound proofing to eliminate resonance.
Love your videos and the work here is great, except for the issue of ducting and the window. Easy enough to cover the glass with a removable panel, but man, that ducting is giant sound transmitter. No point worry about sealing air gaps (which you mention the importance of correctly), when you have ducting sending the sound outside like you left the doors open.
Someone else mentioned building a second wall, not connected to the outer. That’s crucial. Also, having multiple layers of various density and material is super helpful.
Thanks for the advice to "keep it nice and tight to the box." Good advice no matter the situation. 😏😏
Will the duct work have some sound proofing along the way? It is air movement, so the sound of the HVAC can travel straight into the sound proofed theater
awesome tutorial
It may be too late for this, but have you ever thought of leaving a note inside the wall or ceiling explaining what this awesome product is? I was thinking about what the reaction of the young people who renovate this room in 50 or 60 years will be. Maybe the video will still be available, but leaving a note with all that information can answer those question for them. Just an idea..
Leave them a newspaper. They won't know what that is in 50 years!
I am rebuilding a place we got for about 18K US and one of the things I plan to do is leave a few notes and USB drives around with video's of what I have done for a future owner or whatever. Going to make one as a time capsule of sorts and when I replace the sidewalks I am going to put it under the base layer. A piece of 3" pvc with a couple glue on end caps should work well, probably gonna toss in a couple bucks in change as mint rolls so it's all uncirculated. In 50 or 100 years someone will have a really nice surprise.
@@MuttMuttOutdoors physical notes are still a better idea. Good luck if in 50 years usb protocol even still exists as it does, better luck if they'll have anything that interfaces with our current usb standards. Worst case is if the memory in the stick even lasts long enough. Flash memory is volatile and will fail in a shorter period than you may want.
@@amentco8445 Yeah, flash memory works by trapping electrons in a gate, and they gradually leak out over time. You'll see conflicting information online about how long they should be expected to last. Some sources say it should last "at least one but no more than five years", others say ten years, but the counter-example is Nintendo DS cartridges, which use nand flash, and none of them have started failing yet ~19 years later. However, you shouldn't count on flash for any sort of long-term storage unless you're buying stuff directly from the manufacturer (the *chip* manufacturer, not the USB/SD card manufacturer) who can provide a proper datasheet on data retention.
taking notes, getting ready for my theater
Cheers! the next 2 videos will help!
Incredible.
Thanks for the video =)
I used the Roxul insulation/sound proofing when I gutted my house. It's fireproof, waterproof, & mold proof. If you are going to all trouble and cost of renovating for whatever reason ...you will be stuck with the choices you made for the next 10, 20, 30 years. Pay the little extra for the better product when you can. You won't regret it.
I'm sure it's great. But it's unnecessary. Unless you're really hung up on mold, I guess. But acoustically, it's identical.
Incredible in depth walk through to soundproof! Thank you Thank you.
1 question - I have searched high and low for a 'sonopan' alternative. I live in the UK. Do you have any ideas for close similarities for a product that is just as good and available inertnationally? Or EU
Thanks in advance
And that's ladies and gentlemen is how you properly build a a home dungeon!
Nice work!😅
Thanks for the great info!!
You bet! Cheers
love sound proof videos
I design stereo speakers. This is a great video!
Nice video, I wonder if these techniques could work for sound treting a home studio. Post a video if you have done one already.
When people rush basements I don’t understand. Take your time, like you said with the soundproofing, and make sure it’s all done correctly. Especially with moisture control and electrical! An extra two weeks (for arguments sake) in the grand scheme of things is nothing at all. Thanks for the video and great job! Side note: you were talking while cutting that green board over head. 😷
Nice job! What about doing the floor? I’m about to pull the carpet upstairs. What would be a good sound barrier for the floor? Thanks
really great video
This is an awesome video, and now I want to do this to one of my own rooms lol. I have a question though! Considering the repeated emphasis on getting it 99% sound proof and limiting the metal in the walls and ceiling, how do you plan to reduce sound travel through the ducting? Both for the metal (Sorbothane pads like stainless steel sinks?) and the incoming airflow (breathable acoustic fabric?) would need to be managed I'd imagine.
That's what I was thinking about too.