Enduro or Trail MTB | YT Capra or Norco Fluid FS

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  • The answer we all want to become reality is BOTH. Unfortunately that isn't always the case.
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  • @marksandoval5361
    @marksandoval5361 Před 11 měsíci +4

    It doesn't have to be one or the other. Even a long travel Enduro bike could be a good all-around Trailbike if it is designed and set up right.
    Avoid overly long slack bikes. Buy bikes with less slack geo. If your bike comes with an adjustable headset, adjust it to the the steeper head angle. Or, add an adjustable headset to steepen an overly slack bike.
    Avoid heavy bikes. Buy a light bike. Or, upgrade your bike with lighter parts.
    Avoid bikes that do not climb or pedal well. Choose rear suspension designs that are known to be good climbers. If you have already have a bike, set up the rear suspension with maybe more air pressure, compression, or rebound so that it favors climbing over descending.
    Avoid heavy slow-rolling tires. Install the lightest fastest rolling tires that you can tolerate.
    Here are some long travel bikes that I think do this well: Ibis Ripmo, Ibis HD6. Specialized Stumpjumper EVO, Yeti SB140, Orbea Rallon., Pivot Switchblade.
    Here's my own personal example: 150/160mm travel carbon Stumpy EVO Expert, adjustable headset steepened to 65* HTA, Maxxis Rekon tires 2.6 front and 2.4 rear, weighs 31 pounds.

  • @kylesmith4653
    @kylesmith4653 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The Geo on that Norco(I have one! stock 140/130) is great for the climbs, and we all have to get to the top before we fly down! Strong Trail bike for descending.

  • @REYisKING
    @REYisKING Před 11 měsíci

    Been watching your videos all mornings on the 65" at work. Good content. Subscribed.

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thanks man. Means a lot 👊

  • @tonyvaccarelli7950
    @tonyvaccarelli7950 Před 11 měsíci

    I own a Scott Ransom 920 with twinloc, I choose 170 /170mm OR 120/120 mm of travel on the fly !!
    SO I have both in one !! Boom, drop the mic !! NEXT !!!!

  • @garyduran1
    @garyduran1 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video, I love climbing as well. 💪

  • @rogerd9405
    @rogerd9405 Před 11 měsíci

    I would shop around more. I've ridden a few Enduro bikes that are actually pretty descent climbers. I just recently rode the Nukeproof Giga 279 and I gotta tell ya, it climbs pretty darn well for a 170mm bike. It's all about bike setup and geo. Not necessarily Trail vs Enduro

  • @mike_millard
    @mike_millard Před 11 měsíci +1

    You're right, i was waiting for, " So I'm selling my Norco Fluid and here's why." I'm glad you like your bike.

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      Haha! thanks man. Really digging the Fluid

  • @diese1rikan1
    @diese1rikan1 Před 11 měsíci

    I have an Orbea Occam 140/140, great all mountain bike, does everything I need it to do

  • @evanloudenback3700
    @evanloudenback3700 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I had the same dilemma recently, debating between an enduro or trail bike...wound up getting a Stumpy EVO (150/160) - hopefully a good compromise between the two? If I had to choose though, I'd go enduro. I know it's controversial, but I actually enjoy over biking. The added confidence on the downs/jumps are worth less efficient pedaling IMO 👍

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      It's definitely the most popular response for sure, overbiked better than underbiked. That Stumpy was top of my list. All sorts of good reviews on it.

  • @cben86
    @cben86 Před 11 měsíci

    My enduro bike climbs well thanks to a steep seat angle, long chainstay, and high anti squat. It makes the climbs really fun.

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      Nice! Sounds like a Ripmo? Firebird?

    • @cben86
      @cben86 Před 11 měsíci

      @@MILTONATOR Privateer 161. Effective seat tube angle is 80 and 452mm chainstays.

  • @echobenav8
    @echobenav8 Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks for making this video. Appreciate your thinking in matching your bike to your trails. Curious how much different you find your Fluid to your old Ripmo? Seems like they have similar specs.

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thanks man. Loved the Ripmo in terms of pedal efficiency and great going down also. Just not long enough in the wheelbase for me and I could feel on the fast straightaways. I’ve gotta feeling the V3 Ripmo once they release it might get a bit longer

  • @bike_somm
    @bike_somm Před 11 měsíci +2

    You should definitely try riding a Sight 💯 Climbs just as good if not better than the Fluid & descending is wildly better in all areas.. cornering to smashing!

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      Yea man. Definitely gonna give it a go at next Norco demo at JensonUsa

    • @tttass
      @tttass Před 11 měsíci +1

      I have a sight too and second this. Although I wouldn’t be mad if I had a downcountry bike like an Izzo or Epic Evo

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      @@bike_somm 😥

    • @anthonyhum8739
      @anthonyhum8739 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@bike_sommother brands have gone through budget cuts to stay afloat due to lower demand. Specialized and trek downsized too if I recall

    • @bike_somm
      @bike_somm Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@anthonyhum8739 Some people thought 200-300% Covid profits would last forever.. too much inventory and mismanaged budgets are now what plagues many brands. It’ll take another year or so before things balance back out & we see more new bikes being released again

  • @Dempsey222
    @Dempsey222 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The Norco seems like it would be more of a playful bike and easy to flick around. Riding the trails you do I would go with the Norco.

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci +2

      For the trails I mostly ride, definitely the norco is a better fit

  • @THESEGMENTPR
    @THESEGMENTPR Před 11 měsíci

    Love the video Milton!!!!

  • @chriswhite8243
    @chriswhite8243 Před 11 měsíci

    I literally have both of these bikes!! Fluid a1 for ripping trails and I recently brought a capra core 3 for enduro riding!! Ive ridden alot of bikes over the years from xc to dh and these 2 bikes are the best combo I've ever had. Best of both worlds!! Dont choose, just have 2 bikes!!

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Ended up keeping the Capra 😁

    • @chriswhite8243
      @chriswhite8243 Před 11 měsíci

      @@MILTONATOR 👏🤘

    • @chriswhite8243
      @chriswhite8243 Před 11 měsíci

      @@MILTONATOR look forward to seeing the video of it! Love the channel mate!!

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      @@chriswhite8243 thanks man 👊

  • @ArmaniFlyHigh
    @ArmaniFlyHigh Před 11 měsíci

    2 me a enduro bike is a enduro bike and a trail bike idem, depending on the trail (85% singletrack 15% bike parky) i would go for the Capra. and 50%/50% singletrack/bike parky go for the Norco.

    • @oOOlivierful
      @oOOlivierful Před 11 měsíci

      I think you meant the other way around. Norco, capra.

  • @geo13
    @geo13 Před 11 měsíci

    Get a We Are One arrival 152 and you have both.

  • @trailpimp6369
    @trailpimp6369 Před 11 měsíci

    Good job brother

  • @marklopez5267
    @marklopez5267 Před 11 měsíci

    Seems like the Bronson you recently had was a blend of both of these bikes?

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci +1

      It does seem that way. But for me, the Bronson leaned more towards the Capra in how it felt.

  • @mikegeddie2263
    @mikegeddie2263 Před 11 měsíci

    Both…n+1 my friend 😊

  • @MrDavecore777
    @MrDavecore777 Před 11 měsíci

    Any issues with over stroking the rear, is it a 55mm stroke? Thanks

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci +1

      No issues man. I’m running a coil now stroke 55mm

  • @unphasemc
    @unphasemc Před 11 měsíci

    I'd go with the enduro bike. Love riding trails, and I do it probably 85% of the time, but a trail bike would not be nearly as fun on shuttle laps or lift access parks as an enduro bike.

    • @wesa5436
      @wesa5436 Před 11 měsíci

      I ride my spitfire (custom build) at Killington and it's a blast! It's literally difficult to choose between that or my 2020 gt fury (almost fully custom)...
      With higher-end suspension and wheels trail bikes are the $hit

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      That is true. A full on enduro is much more fun at parks.

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      Haha! You’re not wrong 🤘

  • @3igger1
    @3igger1 Před 11 měsíci

    Norco should improve their cable management. I’m still disappointed for their exposed hanging cables at the bb.

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci +1

      That’s a good callout. Then cables down at the bb should be/could be improved

  • @DavidFoundCo
    @DavidFoundCo Před 11 měsíci

    Have you tried riding the ripmo ? People like it as a compromise between these two

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      Yep! I had a ripmo v2 and it is in my opinion the most well-rounded bike out there. But to me, it felt more like a super capable trail bike and not so much an eduro... and by that I mean that the geo on it is very conservative and as an example, the wheelbase isn't long enough and I found it got somewhat squirrelly at fast speeds. I think the Ripmo V3 is going to be really good though when it comes out.

  • @jasonlindquistmedia
    @jasonlindquistmedia Před 11 měsíci

    what camera you use

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      GoPro 8 black and iPhone 14 pro

  • @nickelsbolas7887
    @nickelsbolas7887 Před 11 měsíci

    A coil on the Fluid!? Make a video about that please. I overstroked mine just 7 mm and put a performance elite 36 on the front with 150mm. I'm currently at Silverstar Vernon for a week with a shock wiz tuner and can honestly say that Norco should have 36s as the OEM fork and the stock Z2 limits this thing way too much. Also, how did the bolt break?

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      Definitely the 36 should be OEM. Mine is at 160 but will drop it to 150 soon. I installed the coil the same day I broke the bolt. Will look to make a video once I get some mileage on it. That linkarm shaft/bolt is only 10nm torque and I over tightened (messing with it without a torque wrench) Got me one now.

    • @johnshredsalot1295
      @johnshredsalot1295 Před 11 měsíci

      So your stroke on the fluid is now 210x57? From 210x50? How’s tire clearance? I’m debating on going back to the fluid from my yeti sb130

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@johnshredsalot1295 stroke is now 210x55 - I removed the two 2.5mm spacers. Tire to frame and shock to frame clearance is ample. Got another video posted where I show the clearance, if that helps.

    • @johnshredsalot1295
      @johnshredsalot1295 Před 11 měsíci

      @@MILTONATOR sick I’ll check it out. 👌

    • @johnshredsalot1295
      @johnshredsalot1295 Před 11 měsíci

      @@MILTONATOR which video is it?

  • @ssjj9584
    @ssjj9584 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Real mountain bikers pedal. Stronger you are up ⬆️ the stronger you’re gonna be down ⬇️ 🤘

    • @MILTONATOR
      @MILTONATOR  Před 11 měsíci

      You know what, there’s a lot of truth in that 🫡

  • @mosquitofleetfishing6599
    @mosquitofleetfishing6599 Před 11 měsíci

    Not all enduro bikes are created equal. Not all trail bikes are created equal.
    Weight isn’t everything either. There are several enduro bikes that have been updated in the last 18 months that climb like a goat.
    Some trail bikes climb like crap. Some trail bikes punch well above their weight class. Hating to say it, but, the Trek Fuel Ex Gen 6 with a 160mm fork will descend like an enduro bike and climb like a tight XC bike.

  • @ICE329
    @ICE329 Před 11 měsíci

    Enduro...😁

  • @eltonnanton7705
    @eltonnanton7705 Před 11 měsíci +1

    YT Capra every time.