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A most egregious scene was having him stripped in front of the crowd and having Valkyrie gawking at him.
If the sexes were reversed it would be "perverse, appealing to the male gaze, toxic masculinity, objectification, and patriarchy"
Two wrongs make right to them. Actually, they don’t care about wrong or right. They just want power.
It won't even make the theatres,if that happens
It’s the most hypocritical thing I think I’ve ever seen in a marvel movie. Swap the sexes and you have a social media outrage lmao
That's the sad thing about this woke debate - you can't use actual logic to win your fights because it is not about equality. They are perfectly accepting of hypocrisy like using the female gaze or being racist towards white people.
Don't forget 'misogyny' and 'oppression'.
Taika Waititi's ego seems to be out of control. He injected himself all up in this movie, he's having a throuple with his girlfriend and one of his actresses, and he obviously thinks he's better than the source material. Between his "ruin your mythos in a second" comment and him asking Natalie freaking Portman to be in his potential Star Wars movies because he had no idea she was a main character in the prequels, you can tell he doesn't give a damn about source material and just plans on doing his one trick with the whatever property.
Yeah, NGL, I think I'd rather see Rian Johnson's star wars movie over Taika's
It's a shame. I love What We Do in the Shadows and Jojo Rabbit looks great as well. He really seems to have lost it.
Yup the dude is at his ego trip phase like wtf happened?
@@24flyingcats84 same. He had a metric ton of smoke blown up his ass in a short amount of time and it really seems to have gone to his head.
There's no such thing as a throuple. That's just adultery.
Wait, as someone who didn't see the movie, how do people know Eternity grants a wish to the first person to find them if no one found them yet?
a good question for another time.
It's the same thing in Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness. How does anyone know what the book of vishanti does when no one's seen it before?
No one knows because no one cares.
@@wolfiewoo3371 the illuminati used it to defeat thanos... it seems its a catch all will defeat whoever it needs to sort of book
@@saravind13 So they used it and took it back to that weird space between universes? Why didn't they keep it?
Wanda’s grief was treated as a serious thing that it made her sympathetic and somehow justified all of her actions after this.
Meanwhile, Thor’s grief was, is and always will be treated as a laughing stock.
Thor at least is not mind controlling towns and mass mudering because of grief
@@tanyaaa2590 And yet MCU condemned Thor for it while giving Wanda a free pass
@@nont18411 wanda was badly handled but its not like she got her "family" back or anything, thor was just made into a clown but he was since thor ragnarok
@@nont18411 In the comics Scarlet Witch does the same thing. People hated the comic but it's still faithful to the source material as far as Wanda's character arc goes. In the comics it was even worse, they had to erase Scarlet Witch's memories of her kids completely and when Wasp accidentally mentions them Wanda freaks out and attacks the Avengers killing Vision.
That's just an example of the way the MCU mishandled most of their characters (mostly female but also male ones): I think we can reevaluate the much reviled (maybe too much) DCEU.
Waititi is a massive narcissist. He was given free reign by Feige to do his own thing and his own thing is to basically have a good time one set, and it results in a joke of a film. Hes also one if those "too cool for school" people who thinks "look, isn't this superhero concept just ridiculous?" When you have people treating the films like they are silly little comic stories for nerds then you are one step away from the sort of jock vs nerd bullying many of us had to put up with in the 80s and 90s.
Facts. He's overrated AF.
No director is given free reign in the MCU. Sam Raimi, who is essentially a self-made success, claimed that the studio interfered with his vision to the extent that he claimed the Doctor Strange film wasn't even his own.
Waititi and Disney ruined Thor! They make him a joke! Unfortunately marvel girls will still pay to see it bcz they like CRINGY jokes! We who want a real Thor get this joke bcz this new generation want jokes every 3 minutes
@@murdockfiles9406 well, waititi was given full freedom
I'm inclined to agree. He did a great job in JoJo Rabbit so I was a bit dismissive about people's criticisms but after following the marketing of this film up to watching it in the theaters, he does seem to be quite narcissistic. He openly said he loves trolling the fans and I quote "You don’t know what you wanted until I give it to you. I know, I know, it’s rude, it’s rude. But it’s true.”
Thor was my favorite avenger, and i dont even want to pirate this movie bc I refuse to watch them degrade him any more than they did in endgame
I so agree. I loved Infinity War but can't even watch it again with what they did to Thor in Endgame (and how overall terrible the movie was). MCU has really dropped the ball with Thor. He is now simply comic relief. I have no desire to see him in a rom/com. Hard pass.
When they degraded him in End Game I was finished at that point
@@cmdr104 Personally wouldn't mind the rom/com part, if they actually respected him as a character through the rest of it. Even within his mediocre movies he atleast had a decent arc, that was thrown out the window with Endgame.
Conversely, he was always my least favourite Avenger so although I really disliked fat Thor, it didn't break my heart as much as it would have if they'd done that to Steve or Tony.
Not even the real Marvel Thor at this point.
I've been saying since the first trailer came out Thor was going to be a blubbering fool throughout the entire film with his diverse companions constantly rolling their eyes at him and saving his butt. They did the same thing in Lightyear, The Last Jedi and countless other films. The last few years will be known as the period when Hollywood destroyed all our favorite and most beloved heroes.
Yea, this is getting predictable
Same!
Saving his butt! 😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣 Get it?
Get it?…..
Thor:
-god of war
-god of thunder and weather (generally)
-god of professions and blacksmithing specifically
Why would he be dumb? Why must he be dumb in the movies?
I hate Disney.
Read up on Norse mythology you would be surprised on how dumb he is.
In mythology he was also god of the harvest.
Waititi and Disney ruined Thor! They make him a joke! Unfortunately marvel girls will still pay to see it bcz they like CRINGY jokes! We who want a real Thor get this joke bcz this new generation want jokes every 3 minutes
It's a corporation that have essentially watered down and made a mockery of mythology and real life spiritual beliefs. It's nothing but shallow consumerism
@@MrFredstt Yup. Exactly this. I could make the same point about a couple holidays...
'She didn't die in combat, she died of cancer.'
Dwight Schrute: Different kind of fight...
i don't think thvalkiries would agree that those were interchangable
I'm kinda tired of giving these films and shows the benefit of the doubt. When Korg made a joke right after Asgard was destroyed by Ragnarok, people thought "ok, that was inappropriate, but I'll let it go" and when Valkyrie's slave trader past was laughed off in Ragnarok it was the same. We assumed it was the couple of missteps along the road, but in reality it was a taster of how things were going to proceed.
Claudia’s Korg impersonation is a 10 out of 10.
12 out of 10.
hillariously, id argue that she did better than the original XD
Her tone and voice are naturally close to Korg's...
Um guys. . . You just said that bad guy sent the kids to center of univers to hide them from thor. . . . And that the first person to the center gets a wish. . . Why the crap did the kids not get a wish?
@@nicholasking6066 thats arguably a better explanation as to how they kicked korgs ass than thor somehow instantly mastering a broken ass abillity to give his powers to other people...
Marvel has desecrated both Hulk and Thor’s character arcs from the comics.
Avengers was the last time Hulk or Thor were treated with the respect they deserved as characters.
Thor was excellent in Infinity War. He still made a couple jokes, but for the most part, he was a man on a mission after losing Loki, Heimdall, and the rest of his people. Obviously, that brooding, vengeful Thor can't be used forever, but he felt like a force in that film. Then Endgame made him a fat mess.
Now you guys know how Hulk fans felt coming out of Endgame where they completely destroyed the character and couldn't even get his super powers correct.
They had to because they wanted to sell Captain Marvel as tHe stRonGesT aVenGer
Exactly. How are we more afraid of crossbones or whatever his name is or Sharon carter than Hulk. Hulk is supposed to be the unpredictable one because if he is mad he never stops. In civil war? Veronica couldn’t stop in.
@@cmasterson Exactly, remember when in Avengers 1 where Loki's plan for getting free from S.H.I.E.L.D. was centered around unleashing the Hulk, because he was the nuclear bomb? How he actually made Natasha legitimately scared? How he was the last missing piece of the Avengers officially assembling? How he saved Iron Man's life? Now, he is just a ripoff of both Hank McCoy and Shrek.
The term you're looking for is "Bathos" it's when you set up an emotional moment and then cut the legs from under it with a joke.
Joss Whedon was probably the worst offender of this trope but it's spread everywhere over the last two decades. It's useful for surprise value when used sparingly and nothing else.
It often happens when the writer doesn't have confidence in their writing.
It's just another way for post modernists (globalists) to deconstruct and mock everything that holds meaning and virtue. It's also why nihilism has infected everything lately, especially since Game of Thrones. It's being done intentionally to rob us of our beloved stories and heroes. Everything we love is being corrupted, perverted, and destroyed. If we have no heroes, we have no one to look up to, examples of how to act. If we have no good stories, we don't learn the valuable lessons they teach. It's another vector globalists use to weaken populations, making us easier to control.
But people praise it like it's the best thing ever.. fucking exhausting
@@rockinHurley777 It's good when it's rare and used appropriately but not when it's a crutch that's used every few minutes as it is in most movies nowadays. Ghostbusters 2016 was incredibly guilty of this.
Rian Johnson....
Thank-you. I had never heard of that term, but it's exactly what I needed.
From wikipedia: "Today, bathos refers to rhetorical anticlimax-an abrupt transition from a lofty style or grand topic to a common or vulgar one-occurring either accidentally (through artistic ineptitude) or intentionally (for comic effect)."
That's exactly what I hate about so many movies right now, especially superhero movies. Ruining drama with ineptitude (Batman v Superman; The Last Jedi), or with jokes (Thor: Ragnarok; Jojo Rabbit). Not every character needs to be a witty quip machine, and not every superhero movie needs bad jokes to kill the drama, like the writers are embarrassed to be writing a superhero movie.
J. R. R. Tolkien hated allegory in stories. He didn't believe in hidden messages, and wrote accordingly. A reader can project a hidden message into his works, but that doesn't mean that allegory or any other are in his works.
And yet he ironically made some of the greatest allegories in writing, like Gollum’s character arc being similar to the life of a drug addict.
I think it works because he played it so straight and took it seriously. Two things that writers today don’t do:
@@NathanCassidy721 except Gallum isn't an allegory for drug addiction. One can interpret that from the work, but that doesn't make one's interpretation part of the author's work.
There's always allegory. The importance of friendship, the second coming of a King, etc.
@@psycomutt That's applicability, it's not the same as allegory.
@@psycomutt allegory, hidden meaning. The meanings in Tolkien's works are not hidden because he meant them to be there and make them easy to see, like the importance of hope, never giving up, friendship, etc.
Im also tired of watching thor act GOOFY ALL THE TIME.
This feels so idiotic and ridiculous, i mean he has the responsibility of the universe, his kingdom, and he is a hero, NOT A CLOWN.
Its fine to act silly sometimes among friends to chill but common get serious sometimes dude u r god of thunder !! A GOD not a JOKER !!
Society is bad
Even tho Hemsworth said he wants a more comedy thor.. idc... thats not his character. That's not thor.
@@rockinHurley777 remember how responsible and reasonable oden was ? Now compare him to thor, a goofball, even loki can b better king than thor. Oden was right in the first movie, thor is not worthy to rule, no one would respect a king who acts like a child.
@@rockinHurley777 the only time Thor works with any kind of humor is unintended humor or him being a straight man, similar to how Captain America was handled.
The electrocution/taser thing with Thor only worked in the first movie, but it got old immediately afterwards. The hurr durr I'm a moron doesn't work at all. The times he was done well is when he acted from a position of authority casting a perspective that was unique to him. Same with Captain America, which contrasted the loose spontaneousness of the guardians, self absorbed approach of Tony, evasive nature of Natasha, direct approach with Clint, broader perspective of Strange/Vision, modern sensibilities with Rhoades/Sam.
The Hemsworth from Ghostbusters as Thor is just cringe.
@@shawnm1902 totally agree
The first Thor movie is still the best. Gets the character and the tone right, as Thor in Marvel is a mix of Norse myth, King Arthur legend and Shakespearian drama and dialouge. Having Kenneth Branaugh as director was a stroke of genius!
Yeah but that Thor didn't have mass appeal so they made him more comedic.
@@creaturetransylvania8943 That's more a consequence of giving the project to Taika Waititi.
@@creaturetransylvania8943 I know why they did it, but I’d argue it was the wrong move. You could have gone more fantasy with Thor instead of comedic. LoTR has mass appeal so I do not get why they had to totally ruin Thor.
And sadly that was the last of that
True words written, I swear people only bash the film just to jump on the band wagon. All these marvel shills will drag Marvel down since they're the ones supporting this new crap.
Why did Waititi choose Korg as his self insert? In the Planet-Hulk- and World-War-Hulk-storyline in the comics Korg is an actually good character and he is completely different from the movie-version.
Waititi couldn't even make his own character. He just took the name and appearance of a comic-book character and completely ruined him.
seems its something about director ego`s
Waititi ruined Ragnarok and Planet Hulk in one movie by overloading it with constant humor. I don't understand why people expected anything better from this movie.
@@SolarDragon007 Saying they ruined Planet Hulk is a massive understatement. In the comics Hulk is a King, in the movie he's Valkyrie's pet. That movie spat in the face of Hulk fans.
@@galanakagalactus903 I wouldn't call him Valkyrie's pet now.
@@galanakagalactus903 Yeah Thor gets ruined too. They told a story where Odin dies, Thor's friends die, Thor's eye gets ripped out and Asgard goes up in flames...and they completely wasted all that dramatic potential for the sake of SNL-Tier comedy skits.
The first two Thor movies, as well as the first Avengers and Ultron, were the only times we really see Thor as a capable, serious person.
Such a shame that Disney is trying to ruin male heroes. Because, heaven forbid we actually have competent dudes in movies. Wouldn't want to get accused of toxic masculinity by snowflakes in today's society.
You should see the "What If" episode with Thor, It was ridiculous.
Well said my friend!
@Yes If you read the comment he actually compared Thor at the start to what he has become. What does that have to do with DC? There is a time and place for everything. How can you make a character who we have watch grow in his character, has lost everything, who figured out a way around Ragnarok, suffer from mental illness comic relief and make him act like a dummy? Look what they did to Drax the destroyer? All that guy does now is eat and tell stupid jokes. DC actually made that mistake with Joss Whedon JL.
@Yes We can agree to disagree which is cool. I dont think his character is better. I actually think both Marvel and DC have strengths and weakness. Humor has to be balanced. Joker was serious but successful so was The Dark Knight, The Batman. WW1 was balanced. Shazam was balanced aswell. Winter Solider is mt favourite MCU film. Lord of the Rings is fantastic that was serious.
@Yes then he should have left. Image another actor playing Thor. Is quite possible.
I had no plans to watch the movie and it's good to know that I won't be missing much. Thank you.
@Giltspark I didn't watch the whole thing. Only about 10 minutes of them bashing it.
Just wait for Pitch Meetings to do this movie, and watch that. Easy way to watch shitty movies that you don't want to watch in under 10 minutes.
@Giltspark Lol i did too just for entertainment while i drive. I mean if you've read the comic you basically know the major plot points of the movie only done much better. Eternity is just the Universe personified in humanoid form not some discount Shenron from Dragon Ball. It's his younger sister, Mistress Death who controls controls the dead.
I was honestly pretty upset when they announced Gorr for this movie because he's one of the most influential villains in Thor, to the point where the sentence 'Gorr was right' made Thor so insecure he because unworthy for a while, and I knew this movie was gonna suck.
Okay, I stand corrected, he's not as popular as I thought. I guess it's more accurate to say Gorr was one of my personal favourite villains
Well actually, Nick Fury was talking to the hammer. They made it sentient at some point, which was pretty stupid and unnecessary. Also, Gorr was wrong. There was a one-shot released of Thor going around helping people even when he isn't superheroing. The hammer was there while he was helping others, so it still doesn't make sense why the hammer would think Gorr was right.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Because whoever was writing those comics needed an excuse to make him unworthy despite that being obviously ridiculous.
@@Darkwintre true
No he wasn’t. All of Jason Aaron’s contributions to the character were complete and utter trash. “Gorr was right” was legitimately one of the worst moments in Thor’s history.
Don’t treat the Arron (or Cates) era of Thor as though it is sacrosanct. It isn’t, it was a terrible, degrading, uncharacteristic period of the character.
@@BC08 Preach, what they did to Odin was borderline criminal
Claudia’s impression of Korg is pretty funny. I kind of liked him as a character in Ragnarok, too bad he didn’t do as well in this film. And remember, we don’t talk about Bruno.
Korg was nothing like he was in Planet Hulk.
@@gameragodzilla nobody could be a serious character in mcu. Nobody at all.
This comment has thinking has anyone talked about the hidden subtext of Encanto yet? Not talking about Bruno, the strong woman feeling too much presure being placed on her, Crumbling household, I sure I could find more if I just watched it a few more times, but I am sure that it is a secret right wing social commentary slipped into a Disney movie.
Korg is a joke in the Mcu,he's meant to be a badass warrior who fights by Hulk's side.
Planet Hulk was great. Made me actually enjoy Hulk as a character.
What makes Jane of all people worthy? That's the question I've had since the first trailer. Steve's actions throught the years supported that concept. It made sense for him to be worthy. Jane hasn't done anything. I haven't seen it & won't be seeing it. Great and competent conversation guys
Because waman
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Thor told the hammer that he should protect Jane at all cost but still weird...
Three words of who’s more worthy: Beta Ray Bill.
@@thinkpuffle His hammer can protect Jane at all cost but cannot protect Thor at all cost, you know, its owner and the one who casted a spell.
@@thinkpuffle But that's not how Odin's enchantment on Mjolnir works.
Having an "in the previous episode" moment in a movie is stupid, a movie should always stands as its own complete narrative work. Then these clowns make 5 of those moments, like what is this, a sitcom for short-memory people?
Yes, yes it is. Short memory and short bus people.
No, its Taika Waititi thinking he is doing comedy.
I feel with so many past movies and characters a flashback scenario could be effective. But the way it was done in LnT is just poor.
Thor is a savior god who has been fighting Giants, Dragons, and gods since his birth. He is The Bezerker.
He would not have trauma from his battle with Thanos.
He would not have abandoned his people, he would not need to “find” himself.
While I agree that he is devalued a lot in this adaptation, I still believe that a Thor struggling after Ifinity War and Thanos would have been very feasible. He would not be like he was in Endgame though, they immediately messed that up. Thor, even after all he had done, was not capable enough to stop half of the universe's population from dying. That would leave a mark on him, and exploring this part of the character should have been the goal for this movie! No 'finding himself' cop-out, but a chance for Thor to reaffirm what he was supposed to be all along.
@@PrayForTanqueray problem is, it doesn't fit since he already "found himself" in the first Thor movie. Nevermind the thousands of years of unshown history of conflict prior to that which he endured and overcame.
Thank you. Thor did not need to find himself. It was established in the first movie who Thor was and was reaffirmed in Ragnarok by his father. The last we saw the real Thor was in Infinity War, minimal jokes, on a mission to stop Thanos no matter the cost. Then they destroyed all that epicness and leadership in Endgame by giving him human characteristics and emotions with PTSD and depression as if he still doesn't have half a kingdom to rule over. Then he gets bad advice from his mother which leads him to forsake his throne and give it to someone who has no power or experience to lead a people so he can go find himself, yet when he goes with the Guardians, there's this question of whose in charge, him or Starlord? I wasn't a fan of Ragnarok because of how much of joke they made Thor out to be so I knew they would continue the same nonsense with this movie.
@@lirpa2300 @A welll he thor findiing himseflf in the first movvie wuas before amost off hhis freindds and famiily aand his people ddied andd he failed to savee tho wolrd forom thanos . thor haviing to findd himself mightt hhave been finee, butt iss thee evenn iin the movie? noo. . . its nott.
Thor used to be my favorite mcu character. Then he became a fat joke. It’s pretty clear marvel never cared about him, which bugs the heck out of me. I loved all 3 Thor movies despite their flaws, and I loved the bridge scene in ragnorok. I’m not even going to watch this movie
Thor is one of the cooles charakters in Marvel regardless of Medium.
@@KeacePeeper 100%
I feel the same way. Marvel after Infinity Wars Thor doesn’t exist in my mind. I refuse to watch Disney Marvel anymore. I did enjoy Spiderman No Way Home cuz Sony had creative control not Disney.
I despised what they did to thor in endgame
@@Kale13000 Ragnorok was trash. It destroyed the Hulk's character. He literally goes from being a King in the comics to Valkerie's pet in the movie.
You could tell just from the trailers that Thor was reduced to playing comic relief in his own movie.
This is another Phase IV Marvel movie that I’ll wait until it comes on Netflix or Cable and if it’s only on Disney+ then I guess I’ll never see it.
42:27 I think this quote by Tolkien is relevant to the discussion where Oz talk abbout Allegory
“I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history - true or feigned- with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.” -Tolkien
Does all stories have Allegories?
I do not think so, but at the same time i can't say that with confidence..., let me elaborate:
Not all stories are intentionally created, if a person recalls a story that happened in any day of their lives i'd think it would be hard to say it was allegorical because most likely, the person telling that story had no full control of what was happening to them, therefore, it would be difficult to believe they intended or intentionally created that story as an allegory.
That said, i do believe any story could be INTERPRETATED as an allegory, but that would be more so on the eyes of the beholder than something inherent to said story.
So since NOT all stories are intentionally created, i do not think it's possible that all stories have allegories, you can ascribe meanings and allegories to any story, but that won't be something the story has, it would be something that you interpretated and placed there yourself.
As another example, if you watch the news and see the recounts and reports of stories that happened with other people who had no full control of how things happened to them, i don't believe those have allegories, but i do believe you could interpretate and infer any message/allegory/ symbolism that you like.
Also, as for "All story has an allegory, otherwise there is no point for the story... ", but couldn't a story exist just to enterain? If i excitedly tell you about a match in game, wouldn't that be qualified as a story? and would that necessarily have an allegory?
Well those are my thoughts on the matter, very fun video by the way!
good points. and thank you for introducing me to that quote
I think Allegory is like that sailboard joke from mallrats, where they have a picture of dots that if you squint you can see a sailboat. I think it turned out that the painting was on backwards or upsidedown, so all the people that were seeing a sailboat were either lying because they wanted to belong or were willing their minds to see a sailboat that didn't exist. Allegory is the same way, there are times when there might be an allegory, but there are times when a person is so focused on wanting to see a sailboat that they conjure one into existing.
The wish thing contradicts even older movies. Thanos wanted the infinity stones to curb the population of the universe to prevent suffering and the destruction of said universe because the resources would be depleted. If he just used the wish thing he could have wished for infinite resources thus saving the universe. Gosh these writers are stupid.
But the key was not made until the ragnorok movie. Unless it was the bifrost itself. Zeus said he does not have the key did anyone know what the key was. Gor figured it out or was it the Necro Sword who was the brains behind that. If the wish was an old legend Thanks may have known about but thought it would be easier to find the stones then figure out what the key was. Even if you double the resources they still will eventually run out.
Thor does not have a hammer because he was a smith (never heard that before), it was because normal weapons kept breaking so he had the dwarves make him a special weapon that could handle his strength.
lmao, what idiot decided he was a dwarf?
In Norse myth, It was actually meant to be a two handed warhammer but Loki sabotaged the smith to win a bet, and the handle ended up being too short.
And it's only this small due to Loki interfering iirc, because Loki is always a dick, him being a trickster and all. But yes, Thor is the God of Thunder even without his hammer, he is a force of nature. I hope the Thor in God of War gets to be powerful und intimidating.
@@PrayForTanqueray
Don't worry they'll make him an unthinking herp a derp brute who is easily defeated in GoW.
@@PrayForTanqueray well, the price for losing the bet was Loki's head, so it's pretty understandable. Also, he was the one that got them to make the hammer, claiming they couldn't make better stuff than another group of dwarves, so he was actually being quite beneficial, if a pain.
Imagine if they would have gone with a darker and more serious Thor in Endgame. An overprotective King, perhaps he is married to Lady Sif.
Enchantress will always be the greatest Thor love interest. Jane sucks and Sif got boring in the comics.
Taika Watiti loves the smell of his own farts. He doesn't actually care about these characters.
His character in free guy I feel was him literally just playing himself.
This is why I told myself Endgame was gonna be my last MCU movie.
the Wish also goes in against EVERYTHING the Thor universe has been building up so far...
I believe it's in the very first Thor movie where they even say "what you call magic, is technology to us", entirely debunking the concept of magic.
Even more so, Dr.Strange also does it, his "magic" actually is applied Quantum Physics and so on.
A wish sounds like the purest form of magic, entirely invalidating the entire "it's not magic, it's advanced technology" argument...
"Magic is just science we don't understand." thor also says "I come from a place where they're one in the same." Referring to magic and technology
The thing Strange does can’t be explained as just ‘Quantum’ tbh. Since Infinity War Strange has been doing ACTUAL magic. And it gets more fantastical each appearance.
Oh, I guess the new Thor came out. The MCU just kind of faded into obscurity.
It's pull is definitely a lot less then before. Of course, it's probably still there.
@@lightningpenguin8937 than*
@@rockinHurley777 then**
She does that Korg impression very well 😄
I just feel spent with Marvel in general.
I feel like they are wanting to use beloved characters to leverage less known characters so they can make movies about these last ones.
Wich feels like the opposite of how they carved their path towards endgame, they took a bit more time to estabilish most of the avengers and THEN they reached a highpoint most people where interested about.
leadership at marvel changed between infinity war and endgame and it shows
The one problem is there isn’t a promise of a big payoff to entice people to continue watching. Another is MCU is what 12-13 years old at this point, the superhero trend and market is past its prime with its mass appeal.
@@NealBromfield Na that's not it. Kevin never had full control over the MCU in the earlier phases, especially phase 1 and 2 so he couldn't just put any crap he wanted on screen. Now that he's gained full control they will basically put anything on screen and it's like * * ** it, people will watch anyway.
The MCU has been stale since guardians 2, or that’s at least when I caught on to being fed the same film over and over
@@galanakagalactus903 Basically its the Lucas effect. Creator gets complete control over property and what to do with it, and with nobody to hold them back they go wild and end up making a complete mess of things. The Prequel Trilogy and Wonder Woman 1984 are good examples of this.
Waititi already utterly assassinated this character in "Thor: Ragnarok". "Love and Thunder" is just a continuation of the pathetic farce that started with Ragnarok.
"So I watched Thor Love and Thunder"
Sorry to hear that
In Ragnarok, while Hela was slaughtering and subjecting the population of Asgard, Thor was off having a wacky adventure with Hulk. I didn't expect anything different from this film.
True, and the way they treated the death of the Warriors 3, and the death of Odin, and the destruction of Asgard like none of it mattered.
Um a whacky adventure? You mean when he was imprisoned and forced to fight in a gladiator arena for his freedom? And when he did get it the first and primary thing he tried to do was get back to Asgard to save his people? Why is it now everyone is hating Ragnarok making such ridiculous statements? Did you even watch the movie? You don’t have to like it, but actually make good critiques.
@@TruGamer619 its tonally shit is prob what hes saying.
@@TruGamer619 That is true. Thor wasn’t just doing what ever while Asgard had a dictatorship rising, he was actively working towards the goal of returning to Asgard and saving those people.
I feel like the movie played with the idea of a classic tragedy pretty well (the idea of not being able to escape destiny, that Asgard would be destroyed).
It confuses me why Thor: Ragnarok got so much praise.
to me it was a confused Mess with loads of tonal dissonance and a clumsy adaption aof a great Hulk Storyline tacked on.
Just watched it. Stormbreaker is the funniest character in the whole film. Which doesn't say a lot of great things about the comedic chops of the rest of the cast.
Wait his axe?
@@theegg7520 I'm not kidding. The axe is the funniest character in this movie.
Hehe. Chops.
@@thembanitheone yeah ngl that was the only thing that made me laugh but this movie still sucked
I don't remember if it was on EFAP or Friday Night Tights, but I heard a great reason for why so many people liked all this Disney, Marvel and Star Wars slop. Many viewers watch these things while being busy on their phones and then looking up at the flashing lights. Focusing only on the "high" parts of the shows/movies and then ignore and forget the remaining 95%.
I cry.
Nobody dies on the Mouse's watch, nobody can escape the suffering.
I left MCU after the anti-climactic Endgame. Seems that I made the right decision.
Claudia is hilarious.
Honest Question:
Is Corg in Thor: Bore and Blunder worse than Jar-Jar Binks?
He’s on par haha
He's considerably worse for two very important reasons. The first being that Jar Jar, for all the misguided attempts at creating a goofy clown character for kids is pivotal to the plot of The Phantom Menace and serves as lynch pin to Palpatine's plan in Attack of the Clones. By contrast nothing chances save for fewer annoyances if Korg is not in Love and Thunder or Ragnorok. Secondly and this is even more important, Jar Jar is an annoying character that was written to be annoying and comedic and given to an actor to play a comedic role, whereas Korg is a character with a backstory and tradition that Waititi ignored entirely and cast himself in to stroke his ego and clown on his own movies. Korg is many magnitudes worse than Jar Jar.
What you’re seeing is a lack of talent. Believe it or not I don’t think it’s in the acting department it’s everything else. Actors are basically just tools welded by others so they aren’t really that important. Writers today are indoctrinated not taught the importance of comedic timing and character building. Producers don’t understand when to leave something alone or tweak it appropriately. Directors don’t now when to tell the company to shove it. Editors don’t understand filming, lighting, and framing. That’s why when you look at classic writers, directors, editors and producers you should be in awe. It takes true talent to do those jobs and what is around today is just corporate talentless trash.
Welcome to the world of the Diversity Hire.
Massive understatement of a good actor's ability to elevate a script with individual choices of delivery, intonation, tone and body language.
I get what you're saying about writers, directors, editors and the 'team', but god damn. Give actors some credit man. A bad actor is awful. But a good actor is not 'just a tool'.
@@jrfour2408 i agree with you for the most part BUT one big problem being, no matter how hard an Actor tries and gives his own input and opinion and efforts to do that etc. etc, its ultimatly not up to them most of the time if those things are even recorded/allowed to be done (and they often cant flat out refuse to do their job the way they are told to) or dont get cut out of the movie. So if those aspects are handled badly all the Actors Efforts ammounts to nothing in the final movie, no matter how good they are.
@@datzfatz2368 Completely agree. Bad editing can compromise everything - I suppose my objection was to the OP commenting 'actors are basically just tools wielded by others so they aren't really that important' which is such a monumentally bad take.
Film/TV as a medium relies on a strong, competent team on all factors - script, direction, editing, AND acting. It's disingenuous and kind of crappy to just call actors unimportant tools when they are a legitimate and very important part of the process.
@@jrfour2408 well yes absolutely^^ i agree with you on that 100%
Finally, a real review! Thank you, and subscribed
Once It comes to story, drama, emotional scenes just put on Pepa pig or go to the circus for a laugh. How can I watch HBOs the wire an just be so intrigued an at the edge of my seat the ENTIRE TIME. This marvel shit is just that, shit
They must have really messed up on gor, he's supposed to be so powerful that it takes 3 thors too beat him, young, classic, and old.
Ragnarok was a bit of a joke, but to me it also captured lightning in a bottle as a beautiful celebration of 70s-80s comic style cheese. But that kind of thing only works well once, especially since it stood out as unique because of it. It's timing is also important because that was a big bright happy movie before we got the Snap, and things got (relatively) serious.
They lost me in ragnarok honestly, everything was a joke in that movie and it downplayed how serious it should have been at important times, plus the plot of Thor having those powers all along and blah blah, kind of undercut the worthiness thing. The hammer has the power, not Thor. He is powerful on his own, but the lighting comes from the hammer, it bugged me.
Thor's power comes from the Odinforce not Mjolnir. I can post dozens of examples from the comics of Thor using lightning without Mjolnir.
Ragnarok sucks so much.
@@jenisia3600 you're lying that's one of the best Marvel movies there is.
Thank you all for your sacrifice in watching this for us lol
Anyone saw the "turn of your brain" post on reddit as an excuse?
turn off your brain only works for popcorn munchers like John wick where the movie is still GOOD but its not trying to be deep or anything.
its nit meant to be like yea this film is cringey, plot is bad, writing is bad, and is a dumpster fire but its ok bc brain be off
Turn off your brain is an excuse to like the movie. Sadly, this invalidates any legitimate thoughts you have over the movie other than the fact you liked it.
I dont want to turn off my brain.. thats just a sorry excuse to use for a shit movie
As someone who hated the jokey tone in Ragnarok, I'm staying far away from this one.
Ragnarok was the first Marvel movie I left angry... only saw it once. Hard pass on seeing this.
This one is even worse :/
You guys should watch Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes. This was one of the best marvel shows of all time. It's funny, smart, treats the characters with respect and, most importantly, is comic accurate. It is way better than the MCU especially what it does with Ultron, Kang, Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Ant man, Wasp, Vision and even Ms. Marvel.
Totally agree. I was never really a big Thor fan but I absolutely loved his character in that show. Thise moments when all hope seems lost and their secret weapon, Thor, turns up and wipes the floor with everyone! Also handles all the other non-MCU (at the time) really well and gives them all a time to shine. I'd say it is the Avengers equivalent of 90s X-Men/Spider-Man/Batman cartoons...it is the definitive presentation.
YES! It is so damn good, especially compared to the MCU
@@garym6315 My favorite Thor moment in that show was when Crowbar is holding a woman hostage and threatens to kill her if Thor moves.
Thor: "Have you no honor?"
Crowbar with a smug smile: "Not even a little"
Thor: "Then you should be familiar with an attack from behind" and then thor calls mjolnir from behind crowbar knocking him out.
@310165 310165 Ultron is my favorite villain from the show. I love how there was an army of Ultron bots, built by Hank Pym to basically be peaceful automated prison guards for supervillains.
Then when Kang showed up, the avengers were overwhelmed and needed an army against him so they gave the Ultrons the ability to fight. All but one Ultron were destroyed.
That one Ultron that survived, however, was able to interface with kang's AI computer and gained sentience itself.
Now a mad combination of a violent robot programmed to bring peace, Hank Pym's broken mind, and Kang's AI, Ultron set out to upgrade himself and destroy the human race because they are too violent.
Unlike the MCU Ultron he isn't spiteful or jokey or emotional he's just doing what he thinks needs to be done which makes him terrifying.
Also unlike the MCU Ultron is he keeps coming back because he is always outwitting the avengers.
I loved Wasp's and Hulk interactions in that series.
Best version of Thor is still the tail end of Infinity War when he is actually just a powerful, serious badass, no jokes, no silliness.
Korgdia is such a great addition to this video 🤣🤣
Honestly, I kinda expected this with all the overly comedic tones the trailer has shown me. My expectations were low from the very start but I just opted to not watch it altogether. I know it's probably meant to be a more fun ride but I just don't want to have every emotional moment be interrupted with jokes and whatnot. It really devalues the moment.
When somebody says that you can have one wish that shall be fulfilled the wish should be: "My wish is tho have an unlimited amount of wishes that shall be fulfilled." - that is the oldest trick in the book.
Why doesn’t anyone just wish to be a god? It’s probably better than wishing to become a genie. Didn’t work for Jafar…
@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight Well if you have an unlimited amount of wishes that shall be fulfilled you can even become a god or whatever else you wish to - you can even change it an unlimited times. However being a God can mean a lot of things: for example the ancient Egyptians considered their Pharaohs gods. The same goes to Japan up till World War II. - they considered their Emperor a god. Even tho we know in both cases they were just regular humans as we are. So a tricky "genie" might trick you the same way when you ask to become a god. It makes you an ancient Egyptian pharaoh - technically a god, yet in the reality just a normal human being. :D
- Also in several religions Gods are not allmighty and not even immortal. See the ancient Greek and Roman gods. They were more of a "superhuman" with special skills than what we'd consider an allmighty, all knowing God nowadays.
@@StopStealingMyNameTrolls Ah, very good point. Thank you, that was actually quite an interesting read. I completely forgot how subjective the definition of “god” is due to the different rulesets across various religions. Yeah… unlimited wishes does sound better 😅
@@StopStealingMyNameTrolls And then Eternity tells you to kick rocks and erases because he doesn't bow to lesser beings. Eternity ain't Shenron from Dragon Ball.
47:17 Portman shouldn't have had a problem with shaving her head for the scenes accuracy. She's done it before.
I can understand not wanting to cut your hair since it takes awhile to grow, but I thought that's why bald caps exist.
Tiki Wickiwicki doesnt take these things seriously, so he makes fun of people who do like them and take them seriously. For me that makes him an asshole. At least it makes him the wrong person to direct a Thor movie.
Love the work. Thank you for the review.
This is kind what's happening these days emasculate the men to make the Women look good I haven't seen the movie but I expect something like that to happen
Hence the m-she-u
Emasculation is exactly what's happened.
Want a good "viking/norse" movie, The Northman is incredible.
Marvel/Disney can burn in hell.
Ay! That ending music finished! Thank you guys
The director is great at taking the piss out of things - like pop culture vampire mythos. Dunno why you’d want that for your marvel movie.
Nah fam, I'm good. Ironically, began my birthday today with the possibility I was going to see Love and Thunder with my brother, but I'd rather be walking on a beach with the sun on my back.
Fate intervened, however, and instead of that we ended up going to see Top Gun: Maverick instead, only because my brother got off work earlier. Good God, it's magnificent.
Wow, now that is an upgrade for your viewing pleasure!
In the lore, when Odin dies, Thor gets his powers. Theyve ignored that in the films, until they dont.
The only reason I have any interest in watching this film was due to the fact that Chris Pratt and Chris Hemsworth where supposedly in it. This just seems like another classic Disney bait and switch. Lol
The darn reason Thor was funny wasn't because he was dumb or incompetent, though it could seem that way, it was because he was a 1500 year old God interacting with us and it didn't match up.
Movies where a foreigner comes to a new place and the interactions are backwards, awkward and funny because of it...just amped up to God level SMH
I was never a die-hard Marvel fan, but I really miss the more serious tones of Marvel movies from back in the day. In these newer movies, they overly inject humor into them and it just doesn’t fit. The dry, sarcastic humor in the Iron Man movies was absolutely perfect and I believe that is why the Iron Man films quickly became my favorite. (Oh, Guardians of the Galaxy series had perfectly executed humor too - another favorite!) But even then, the humor aspect didn’t overpower the seriousness/intensity of the storyline. After the newest Spider Man movies came out I was done. They’re a joke to me. Couldn’t take the storyline seriously. Not bothering with anymore Marvels.
Oz seems so defeated in this, I feel it man. What has Marvel turned into, it's insane how quickly they flushed themselves down the toilet. Thor 1, Iron Man 1 and Captain America 1 are a rare few of the best Marvel movies they've made.
"So you're saying that you believe your ideology is superior to everyone elses?"
Yes.
Isn't that the point of having an ideology
@@sweetpeach3649 correct
Immorality is not a prerequisite for being a god. It is far easier to defend a group of flawed gods, than cohesively describe a single perfect deity.
I think it’s the other way around, respectfully. It also depends on what one might define as a god? Christianity/Judaism has always claimed that the god in the narrative is beyond space and time, which would make it eternal. You could posit some “time” period prior, but it’s not well supported. The idea of a god being eternal may actually be due to the popularization of Christianity. I would find difficult to defend worshiping a group of flawed beings, rather than a singular perfect one. That one would be “worthy” of worship due to its perfect nature. It’s difficult for us to fully understand what that perfect being might be like, but not impossible for us to apprehend that such a being might exist. That make sense?
Ohhhhhhhh come on. They butchered the god butcher and ETERNITY too!?
Gorr, for those of you who don't know, is a pretty damn cool villain. He lived on the edge of starvation his entire life, and everyone he loved kept dying because his planet sucked and didn't have much in general. His parents died, his wife and unborn child died, then his BORN children died one by one around him. All this time, through his life, his people are like "pray to the gods. Trust in them and they'll help you."
And then after all his family is dead, he's like "There's NO gods" and his village kicks him out for saying that.
Then as he's wandering, TWO GODS CRASH DOWN WHILE FIGHTING! So he's like "holy shit, there ARE gods!"
Then Knull, the god that created the symbiotes actually, asks for his help, cause he's getting his ass beat. Then Gorr goes ".... WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU?"
Takes his super amazing sword and butchers his first god. From then on Gorr dedicates himself to killing ALL gods, and in 3000 years he kills a LOT of them. So yeah, that's a PRETTY COOL origin for a pretty damn cool villain. HIS SWORD IS NOT JUST EVIL AND IT MAKES HIM EVIL SO IT'S NOT HIS BLOODY FAULT!
Now, onto Eternity. In the Marvel Multiverse, there are many cosmic beings. Galactus is one of them. There are others, like Eternity and Infinity. Eternity is the embodiment of the universe, and ultimately is the embodiment of the entire multiverse. He is, MOSTLY a Doctor Strange character. Eternity did some stuff, realized "Oh, this isn't good" and asks Doctor Strange, you know THE SORCERER SUPREME, to go retrieve the fragments of himself that decided not to come back and threaten the multiverse by existing.
What Eternity isn't, IS JUST SOME WISH GRANTING GENIE LIVING AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE! Eternity has NO reason to just give someone whatever they want under ANY circumstances! He tells you to do something, you just DO IT. You don't negotiate payment. You don't deserve a wish just by FINDING him. You come to him and beg for help and he'll decide if he wants to do anything, you don't get to negotiate here!
Thanos, with the full infinity gauntlet, was more powerful than him. And the Living Tribunal is more powerful than him. The One Above All is more powerful than EVERYTHING but he doesn't tend to poke his nose into things. Just things happening is already an expression of his power. Eternity is being BELITTLED in this movie if he's just a plot device to FIX GORR THE BLOODY GOD BUTCHER!
yeah! The idea that gorr would even go to eternity as to accomplish his goals is absolutely ridiculous in it of itself. They nerfed all the cool aspect of him to serve the plot, just like the fully assembled infinity gauntlet. It doesn’t seem lime these directors can handle the concept of someone being omnipotent pfft.
Minor correction with Gorrs story. Knull was there, but it was actually the god he was fighting that begged gorr for help, only to be slaughter for his negligence. I think it slightly implied knull was the reason that worlds gods were too busy to help the planet as well but I might interpreted that part wrong. In all honestly i’m not sure if gorr ever had a chance to shine in the mcu properly
fact's
… Didn’t Korg mention his **mum** in Thor Ragnarok?
Yep, that just goes to show how bad this director is.
I’m gonna be honest:
I am really sick of seeing Taika Waititi being named dropped in film.
He’s a great and capable director but when I heard he was doing this and an unnamed Star Wars film, I knew they were gonna be bad. Because it’s obvious he’s being used to try and get goodwill for a sinking ship and he’s never gonna bring the same energy to these films the same way he brought it to JoJo Rabbit.
He should not do Star Wars because he will not be able to stop with all the comedy
Why do people like JoJo Rabbit? Ridiculous, emotionally manipulative, anti-German propaganda
@@nanakakitano9724 How is that movie anti-German propaganda? Everyone in it is german, the antagonists as well as the protagonists. If its any propaganda it is anti-Nazi and ridiculing them and that is spot on if you ask me because Nazis are in fact ridiculous. And why do people like it oh i dont know, it has great acting, unique style, very effective cinematographie and a heartwarming story mixed with pretty biting and fitting satire/anti-ignorance Message. Those might be some of the reasons.
And you know what? For "Jojo Rabbit" he bastardized the source material (the novel "Caging Skies" by Christine Leunens) as well and he admitted to only have read half of the book. "Jojo Rabbit" may be good in its own right, but it's still a bastardization of the source material.
@@datzfatz2368 I wouldn't see it as "anti-German", but it fully buys in into war propaganda of the Allies and is ridiculously exaggerating it. The Nazis in this movie are depicted as absurdly as the Nazis of this movie are describing Jews. You can't take this movie as a serious critique of National Socialism ideology or of the according society - because you can't take this movie seriously. And if you do take it seriously, you are just as "ignorant" as the Nazis of this movie are ignorant about the Jews.
"They have a god, they might not be aware of it but they have a god."
What a true statement.
its .. kind of not though?
@@mayhemivory5730 one above all?
@@hoodlum4511 shad made obvious meta-commentary about 30 minutes in, and i assumed OP made their comment in reference to that.
my own comment was intended more in reference to the fact that in order to "have a god", one must quite specifically be aware off and be obedient to that god.
the one above all might have created the marvel universe, but he isnt really seen as anyones "god".
@@mayhemivory5730 in the mcu, not alot have been mentioned about the one above all but in the actual comic books in the marvel universe, I remembered in an all old comic that Thor was talking to a kid and the kid ask if he was a god but Thor acknowledge he was sort of a deity but similar to Zeus, Odin and Ra but also reference there was one supreme being up their far more stronger than him and a god to all.
If we go by the comics. Then no. ‘The Ones Who Sit Above In Shadows’ Are their gods. And even then those where Asgardians who didn’t get reincarnated during the Ragnarok cycles.
Anyways. Yahweh isn’t even treated as ‘The God’ of Asgardians in comics. Odin’s closer to a god since he planted Yggdrasil’s tree (the center of the Omniverse) and even then there’s beings above Odin. Yahweh in marvel is barely in the comics. And isn’t important in many stories either. And we know he didn’t create the Omniverse since that was The One Above All. Who is probably the true ‘god’ of marvel.
But to state it. Yahweh is treated like any other god in marvel. An incredibly powerful being. And is probably below Odin but will never be stated in the comics cause they don’t want to piss off Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. anyone who believes in God. They’ll be crucified if they treated Christianity like any other religion. Only religion that gets so much special treatment from the entertainment industry is Hinduism.
Personally, I’m sick of people getting mad at fictional interpretations of mythological characters. Not everyone believes in god. In fact, less and less people believe in him everyday. Christianity may become like Greek Mythology in a few hundred years or longer. But it is dying out in the west at least. And it’s dying fast.
For a guy who hates religion Waititi sure seemed to play up his Jewish ancestry in JoJo Rabbit.
I am shocked, shocked! Well, not that shocked.
Oz, I am going to assume your reference Thor Skywalker was intentional.
Have people figured out that the Mcu peaked at infinity war yet?
End game!!! Did you not see Cap vs Thanos?
@@jimmyjam5453 cap america or cap marvel?
@@clos3078 America
my favourite moral of the story is that when times get desperate enough, child soldiers are okay.
There were times where I was avoiding MCU spoilers like a plague. Now I don't really care, I know where this is going. Thx guys for taking the bullet.
Oz- hello darkness my old friend
Is no one going to call out or punish valkyrie for abandoning her coworkers and duty to live a life of selling people into slavery? I thought we all agreed slavery is bad and those who do it should be punished, so why is she being rewarded?
Thats easy
Disney is evil and finds favor in an anti christ type figure
cuz shes not white
wait what
“I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history - true or feigned- with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien
So often it is, whenever Tolkien said anything, Tolkien said it best. Not everything has allegory, which is akin to an extended metaphor purposely set out by the author. Oz is also talking about themes, such as good vs evil, which makes no such comparison as allegory does.
I really like to see a blog of your book. And again really love your shadow of the conqueror.
These writers need to play some D&D. They will quickly see the danger of leaving so many massive plot holes everywhere. Player "I cast wish." DM "What!?!"
At the beginning of the video I'm scared to see how terribly they mess up the mythology in the name of money.
A point about the anti Christian messaging there, Most attacks on Christianity are also attacks on Islam. Since from an Islamic perspective, Islam is the finalized message of God to mankind and Christianity was the message before it. So they don't need to insult the prophet. This in itself is insulting.
Nah, how many muslims take Jesus serious as a prophet? Mohammed just tried to convert the chirstians with this story that he is his successor. pretty obvious and smart to be honest.
That makes a lot of sense! They definetely don't think of it that way, I doubt they know much of the relationship between Christianity and the Islam.
@@captainalex157 the same amount as the Christians today who take Christ seriously. Today's world is Decadent and filled with those who know nothing of their religion. And you ain't helping.
@@PrayForTanqueray it's alright. I know they are in good faith and totally agree with their point there. My point is to show more of the hypocrisy of the woke stuff.
@@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 cant see your whole comment, but yes we are decadent as hell, still i prefer that over living in a conservative islamic country where women are treated like pets and if you criticize the religion you get murdered (of course its not that bad everywhere). I take some woke idiots over that anytime.
Rewatching Top Gun this weekend. Thank you.
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I'm surprise nobody mentioned the fact that the god slaying weapon is useless because Loki died, oden died, Hella is probably dead, Thor thought he killed Zeus... so it's just an evil sword? they should have had Thor or Zeus say something like "his sword doesn't simply destroy our bodies, it erases our souls so we can't be reborn" or something like that
So Korg comes from an all male race? Strange considering that Korg mentions having a mother and refers to her as a woman in Ragnarok.
Great Continuity 👍👍
30:07 To answer the question, who the Gods the Asgardians worship. They're called "Those Who Sit Above in Shadow". It's actually revealed in Ragnarok (the comic), that they're the ones behind Ragnarok. And that Ragnarok itself, was an event that repeated for countless millennia. They created the Asgardians to live an endless cycle of death and rebirth, using their deaths to sustain their power and longevity. With this revelation, Thor at the very end kills them along with himself, despite their offer to join their ranks, a God of Gods. He rejects it, all to finally end the cycle, thus freeing his people from their control once and for all. At the end, Thor dies with the rest of his people. But at the very least, now have peace at knowing they are free from the control of a cruel fate that's tormented them for so long. And they would be later reborn, to finally live lives that were truly theirs.
Ragnarok was one of the most beautiful stories in Marvel history. And a worthy end to a character like Thor. Which is why I will never watch Taika Waititi's overrated, bastardization.
Raganrok seems to be more like the death of the universe than just happening every millennia. Cause I remember a page where Thor was remembering his pst lives and he saw the Avengers and such over and over again.
I didnt even know this was a channel. It was just recommended to me. Didnt know Shadowversity was on any other channel.
Great video, agreed to almost every point that was made. Also i have to know, what's the name of the intro-outro music? It's awesome
One of the biggest problems in modern fiction is an inability to be serious in stories that incorporate comedy.
If you look at great comedies out there like Nacho Libre however, you find there are some great, impactful serious moments. Yeah, a comedy can have no rhyme or reason and be a good time, but if a lot of comedies have no problem having serious elements, what business do writers in other genres that simply incorporate comedy, think they have in removing any trace of seriousness?
One of the qualifications for something being a guy is the fact that it can't die is a relatively new qualification in history and many religions things they defined as Gods could die all the time Depending on the mythology
So being able to die would not disqualify it from being a god
Guessing the writers have never studied mythology before.
Yeah even in the comics many characters who refer to themselves as gods can still die even beings as powerful as Eternity. Marvel had an entire event based around Gods dying called Chaos War with Hercules saving the Marvel Omniverse
Guys can't die? cool!
(I know what you meant but that typo is just too funny to pass up on)
This is great to have on in the background of every day work.
getting a disney + ad on this video was an interesting moment
I love how I’ve never watched this channel but around 2 minuets in I already knew I was into it given the same bohemian rhapsody reference because I was thinking the same thing