Hair Braiders In New Jersey Are At Constant Risk Of Losing Their Jobs
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2018
- Hair braiders in many states across the country are at constant risk of massive fines and losing their jobs.The primary reason: state cosmetology boards. Over the past several decades, these boards have lobbied to require licensing for braiding services, despite offering little training in the discipline or justifying why a non-invasive, non-chemical method needs to be so heavily regulated. Now hair braiders and politicians are fighting back against policies they claim disproportionately affect immigrant women of color. VNT goes to one of the states at the center of the debate: New Jersey.
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That old man had no idea what the topic of conversation was
Nor does he know anything about Black culture thus his opinion on being a professional braider is irrelevant
Surely if he's on the board then he should know EXACTLY what proposed bill she means?!! This is just crazy, when people don't understand something they instantly object instead of educating themselves and asking questions x
He's not on the board, but he recently was. None of the current board members would talk to her
right? go ahead and try to ask him for braids like they do and watch him be like "oh haven't studied that" but I thought you just said hair dressers should know everything???
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The license isn't the problem. Paying 15k+ to get a license that has nothing to do with your profession is the problem. They should require health and safety courses for an affordable price. Or let braiders elect a board or chairperson from their peers to implement requirements for a new certification.
JacJac009 amongst all the other solutions This one seems to make the most sense. They don’t need to learn what they don’t need or use but there are still points to cover like tension braids, fine hair, thick hair and how to care for it and how to braid with this in mind versus just to “get it done” b/c some ppl can argue the loss of edges and hair from some of these self taught braiders
JacJac009 agreed
cosmo school cost $2000 a year it does not cost that much. I’m not oppose to them having licenses but the thing is African braiding shop they don’t braid right
Time Is illmatic $2,000 can be a lot depending on your financial situation. Either way it’s a waste of time and money if you’re learning stuff you won’t use.
mangastar234 if you watched the video they stated it was 17k to 20k
“What are you in for?”
“I was braiding hair without a license. Hbu?”
“I killed a man.”
“Oh...”
I’m Confused 😂
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I’m Confused They don’t put violent criminals in with non violent criminals. Max security is for murderers
@Robert Hunt 😢
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I’m a braider who went to beauty school. I feel like braiders should just have to take a class on sanitation and customer service. There is no need to pay a lot of money to learn something you are not gonna use.
Hey kenya lol i went to beauty school to and I definitely already knew how to braid before I went .. and the funny thing is that's what I always do on people is braids but I been in debt since 2015 still trying to pay it off .. I know how to do everything from hair to facials to mani and pedi they teach you everything in cos school you find what your good at and go from there but you definitely don't use all the knowledge they teach you ...
Agreed - this is insanely costly. I can’t believe there’s not a separate certification for smaller / at home stylists. I know in CA to be a tattoo artist all you need is a health / pathology training license that you can get online. Unreal.
@@kenyaaki6060 this is it - debt 💸 they just want people in bondage ⛓ 🚫
@@RealGlowup yup and people always shame me for not having my licence but I still get customer's. .. I went to state board and passed the hands on test with flying colors. .. but the written test It was only like 4 answers wrong so i failed the whole test i haven't went back since and not only that you have to pay everytime you take it .. the only reason you even need a license is so you can have a salon and incase someone tries to take you to court but you gotta jump through to many loops just to only use part of what you learned in the first place smh .. it was Chinese people paying for just the nail part of the class and that's just not fair
@@RealGlowup so now I'm in debt but to all the stylist the magic is in your hands nobody can take that away from you
maybe a sanitation class and for different scalp/hair problems for about $1000 but not nearly $20000.
that’s crazy.
Exactly. You go to cosmetology school and they dont even teach you braiding or incorporate different hair textures on mannequins etc
Agreed. I got a teaching license for about 3k...no way hair braiding should be 6x as expensive.
@AJFB FOXY your comment makes the most sense.
Public libraries hold that information for free.
I've learned Skepticism true. they hold a lot of information but you need experience as well as certification and licenses to do tons of various jobs.
hair is one of those things, cosmetology, braiding is simple and in most cases self taught taking a scalp and hair / sanitary class for a practical price won’t hurt. look at it like a doctor or even a medical assistant, they’re certified.
Who else died when the man said "So they're just gonna stand there and braid their whole life?" as he STRUGGLED to do that other old man's hair. Yup, there are shops dedicated to just braiding.
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Looks like he’s been standing there cutting hair his whole life and he looks to be about 75. She is taking care of herself and family so well, she doesn’t need to learn the different kinds of hairdressing at that way to expensive cosmetology school. System trying to cause problems for minority people. That old barber probably paid $10 for his Barber license about 60 years ago.
I know that haircut is much easier than the art of braiding.....smdh....the nerve....what else is he doing but cutting the same cut?🤔
That old man was an ignorant arsehole. When he made the comment about " what, are they going to braid hair their whole life?". How is it any different than him cutting hair his " whole life?". He think he's's better than them. Cutting hair and braiding hair is both a job that brings in income. Arsehole!! It's a career.
Like she said, unless you’re of African descent, people can’t comprehend such a basic concept. It shows a lack of wanting to understand, it’s not difficult. Braiders are artists and yes, they want to create their artwork and only their artwork for their entire life!
i do believe braiding shouldnt have to follow the cosmetology laws, but braids that are too tight CAN cause damage to the scalp. hair braiding should be in a category on its own !
I definitely agree with you you have to get a license to handle food call the food handler's license... There should be something implemented in it..
SARAH HANSON 🙄🙄🙄
Yeah it should be a separate qualification.
Shut up, the issue is white boards not recognizing natural styling as a VALID form of hair styling. Another way for the white man to try to tell us what is legitimate and what’s not.
knowing how to braid is not enough to be in a shop doing ppl hair. scalp care, tension, and how to shampoo properly should be a requirement to serve the public hair service. i went to a shop with no water due to the braider had no board license
When I went to cosmetology school it cost me $10, 000. 😭😭 And after working as a hair stylists for 2 yrs, I realized that I absolutely hated it! Such a waste of money. Also, people have a misconception that it's really easy to pass the course. But, about 60% of people end up dropping out and never making it through the entire program. In the beginning it's all books, tests and learning a lot of medical terminology. It's not easy at all! And the state board exams are even worse!
@Karoli Naa I went to a private school, they tend to be more on the expensive side. Now they have bunch of beauty schools open all over and I think a lot of them you can get student loans, etc. Or if kids are smart they can just go to BOCES during high school. It's free. But, it takes 2 yrs. I finished mine in less than a year. But, had to go full time 9am- 5pm M-F.
@K H What on Earth does high school dropout rate have anything to do with me?! You're an idiot! I went to college and have my degree, I just wanted to learn a new trade, because I love learning and continuous education is extremely important. I have no idea how the HS drop out reference has anything to do with me!
@@aidam.3845 he didn't say high school drop out. He said high drop out rate. You did say that 60% end up dropping out.
To each is own
It’s 30k for me
If you cannot teach me how to braid wtf am I going to school for?
I'm African-American. I don't think people who already 'know' how to braid should sit through an entire cosmetology cohort just to open a braiding shop, BUT there are things that should be taught besides braiding technique. Sanitation, alopecia and prevention of hair loss, to name a few, should be something that every person braiding hair knows about and is educated to handle. Plus, having a license or certificate would ultimately hold them accountable for the hair loss suffered by some of their clients. Because all braiders don't treat hair the same way. I think that there should be some rules and regulations established to the profession; however, a bunch of white men in suits don't necessarily have the cultural knowledge to regulate said profession. And I don't feel comfortable paying the state to practice cultural art-forms either because then we'll get into whether it's a money-making scheme to disenfranchise black business owners and market our cultural styles for others to profit.
Say it louder for the people in outer space! The barber had no clue about AA women's hair asking if they were going to braid all their life. Umm yes dude. Haven't you been cutting hair for a millennia?
I think they should have their own training school that is specific to braiding. They should be licensed under that type of school. I should by no means cost a lot an some of them could lecture and teach techniques.
Some schools do teach braiding. There are certificate programs.
Ppl who have experience should be grandfathered in
There has to be something different that can be done for those who are not using chemicals or methods typically used in a salon. Something where they can still get a license without having to go through full cosmetology school. Most, if not all, hair braiders I know learned outside of professional schooling, typically at home using friends and relatives as you learn. I can understand their frustration, why have to go to school to learn something that you won't ever use in practice? If none of the methods taught in cosmetology school actually cover braiding and that's all you'll do, why even bother? I think we waste enough money doing that for regular college
For what they want to do getting any license is a waste of money.
What they need to do is organize and lay out a training program that teaches braiding with guidelines and testing. Then they can get that recognized by the government as separate from cosmetology and legally provide certification. Someone who is self taught can then simply take the test to get certified. These shops could offer apprenticeships towards certification or even open schools. It would be an opportunity for everyone.
I get it, the solution to too much government is more government, J K.
Could they be considered artisans? Because what they do is artistry, using the most natural resources. It would be interesting to the cosmetology industry to create special licenses to this type of artwork and even proficiency courses, less expensive and specific to their talents. In a nutshell, create a new branch with less chemicals and more taste.
I compare their struggle to the one cheese makers here in Portugal are facing. The EU agricultural office wants them to make a certain curated cheese to be done with artificial/chemical fermentation, abandoning an artisan method created by the Romans that occupied thern Lusitania over 2 thousand years ago, that uses a local flower to do a natural fermentation and give the cheese an unique flavour.
These ladies are doing the same, applying their artisanship to hair and creating uinique styles, ancestral to their culture and part of their heritage, that should not be limited by industrial standards but instead embraced as a form of top notch art.
But Karine Fonte, you're forgetting Statist logic; if there is no government regulatory board how can we conclude you are not putting poison in your cheese. We all know that food producers have a vested interest in killing their customers.
Girl that old man didn’t even know what day of the week it was let alone a question like that loooool
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i’m ctfu😂😂
😂 right!? Why couldn’t they interview anyone else ... poor dude. he’s just doing his thing, zero clue.
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@@RealGlowup they interviewed him because hes on the chairman board that will vote on the bill
That old man was having his own conversation lmao
They all do.
He has been cutting hair all his life but said others cant do that🤦🏾♀️
“They “
They should’ve brought somebody in to get braided and said well you have a cosmetology license you should be able to do this.
Very ignorant that man was
This is why I stopped braiding in the salon...
I was asked to obtain a license from an institution that doesn't train people to do what I do...
I learned to braid when I was 8 years-old...
With over 30 years of experience...
I think I qualify as *hella* qualified.
Militant Twinky X put ads on google... Advertise that way
ChikaCherry / Artist of Trash so that means family restaurants and family cooks are now "uneducated"?
ChikaCherry / Artist of Trash
Braiding hair and eating food is totally different...
Daisy Juice That's true. In N.Y. my sister and niece graduated from cooking school and the only thing they needed was a food handling license.
ChikaCherry / Artist of Trash IT'S ONLY ABOUT MONEY. It makes absolutely no sense to get a license for something you do NOT need. If only hair braiding is what's done in the shop then there's no need for a license for someone who has been braiding hair for 30 + years.
The reason why the board is so resistant and arrogant is because there are no diversity aspects. They need women, black women. Our hair is unlike any other on this earth.
Brooklyn Z. Exactly. Our hair is the only hair that defies gravity. And it's not fur like white ppl's.
Brooklyn Z I'm black, and a Cosmetologist. I feel that braiders should be liscensed. There are several skin disorders, diseases, alopecia, etc that we learn about that braiders should learn about as well. Braiders can do harm to their customers by not knowing how to take proper care of their implements, cross contaminating products, and even causing alopecia with excess tension. I see it everyday in the salon. Cosmetology school is a necessity when dealing with someone's hair.
Not everyone with yall hair texture is african btw, why do you guys always want to separate yourselves from everyone else?
I'm white and my hairstylist is black and works at a mostly black salon. I get extensions put in and sometimes braids.
Right Tiffany! And many secretly relax and color anyway to make some extra cash... the government is not entirely stupid on this issue, as I am sure many victims and others hair professionals have complained!
Chile when she said "we have a gift, that nobody can take from us" I felt that in my spirit sis cause I can't braid to save my life 😂😂
Me either !! Plus I went to cosmetology school.
@@byram1 😂😂😂😂 It's a gift indeed!
@@sadiekerry660 😅😅
Okay!!!! Lmao
'How long have you been doing hair?'
'Uhhh,'
''Since Christ was a little boy!'
haha! Good one
i live in illinois and they actually made a cosmetology certification just for braiding. its a lot shorter of a program cause it just teaches braiding while still teaching health and sanitation education anyone who does hair should know. i think more states should look into doing it as well.
I agree
Very very smart, they need to start doing that every were
@Burberry Ellen Aww go for it girl! I know the chicago area probably has lots of schools offering the certification, but down state where I live I don't know of any that have just braiding yet.
This is a good option and all states should consider doing this. I don't work in the profession anymore-I went to school for cosmetology as an 18 y.o. in the 1980's but requiring the full education to do just hair braiding doesn't make sense.
There are so many salons throughout the country that do not do Black hair because they don't know how. Cosmetology schools don't teach about our hair as they do other hair types. This is where race comes in because even though we are all human, we don't have the same hair. Why would you expect these women to pay so much money to a school that'll teach them about hair types they'll rarely work with and products they'll never use?
Tai King
Girl preach
you do realize that there are black owned and operated cosmetology school right.
Goldie 24k How many and where are they located? Is it one in every city? One in each state? Yes, I do realize that black-owned cosmetology schools exist, that doesn't mean they're accessible by everyone. Thanks.✌🏾
When I was in cosmo school, they had a brief run through of “ethnic hair”, and it was how it reacts to color, conditioning, and styling. Nothing about “ethnic styling”. One of the teachers would teach you at her house if you wanted experience with proper styles for different cultures.
Tai King Um race do not need to come in this everybody hair is different but using race as a guideline will not be true either because race is made up and white skinned people do not all have the same straight either. People should look at people indivually and stop the stereotyping.
There should be a braiding license created that includes , sanitation, scalp care, customer Service, and business 101
100%
@@novelty718 ok if even so not 17,000 dollars !!!!
Exactly. Stuff that people will actually use.
I love the African braid shops but they definitely need to be licensed. Cosmology school doesn’t just teach styles. It teaches about bacteria, proper washing techniques. It’s teaches about the skin and scalp. Everything you would want someone to know that is doing your hair. Did you see how she was ripping the interviewer hair apart? Braiding is their gift not know about the hair and scalp which is what they need to be taught.
mychynadoll06 agreed! Because once we start allowing braiding to happen without a license, where does that lead? Blow outs and stylists working on updo's are also exempt?
Maybe if cosmetology school started teaching breeding more people would actually get a license for it. And all the stuff you just said could be learned online.
But why would I pay 17,000 to learn about bacteria, washing techniques bla bla bla that’s stupid.
@@meri881 thats called an education
Then a $50 2-hour training course on cleanliness standards would do the trick.
This is a way to stop black American people from growing a business and prospering from their cultures.
Rabbi Benyamin Khazar actually it's about government regulation
No you don't saaayyyyyyyy
You comment is redundant
I think it's more about the old "You have to give us money to do our thing"-thing. Every job has that. There obviously should be a Hair-Braider-License, but that would mean the cosmology people don't get as much money anymore, so they will do everything from letting that happening. But racism is probably also part of it.
Thank you Rabbi Benyamine Khazar! I truly appreciate someone just saying it.
Rabbi Benyamin Khazar have you had box braids from a african women ? If not be quiet
Did he say is that person going to braid all their life WTF your like 80 still cutting hair so I guess a hair braiding not going anywhere just like hair cuts.
Miss Chantell 🤦🏾♀️right
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Miss Chantell right!
Miss Chantell right though! A he's ever done all his life is do that same exact haircut. But he wanna talk about people that can braid hair into the most innovative and beautiful styles? He's pressed and uneducated
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾preach
I went to hair school. SANITATION IS VERY IMPORTANT. You need to know how to keep from spreading germs and disease. Properly cleaning and disinfecting utensils. Not just sitting them in barbercide without being rinsed off when soiled. Those lecture hours are important. Its not just about braiding hair, its also dealing with your customers health. With if the customer has an allergic reaction? Proper training should be required.
People don't want too hear your positive side of it. Lol
Yes but its expensive. Why not have multiple programs so people who already know how to braid? So they learn sanitation and can get their license without paying thousands that they dont have
@@badlandsghost it's expensive to become a doctor as well, do you not want your doctor to be licensed???
@@crystalmyers5952 a doctor requires 10+ years of school in a university. A hair license is between 8 months to 2 years.
@@badlandsghost I see that flew right over your head smh
"What's that person going to do, just braid all their life?" Well, Mister, what are you going to do, just cut hair all your life?
I’m so glad they got a black girl for this story.
asseater007 She's a shit presenter. She's bare rude like how tf is she correcting. the Ghanaian lady on how to pronounce her own braids. Just because she's black don't mean shit. It actually woulda been better if they got a white presenter, because they would most likely not question/correct on shit they don't know.
It's vice what did you expect?
asseater007 of course you are
Ryiannæ Gold
That African lady can't just name some damn braids that Americans have been wearing forever. And the commentator was right for correcting her, didn't the African lady get right in line???
Ok then
Yudah El ummm Ghana braids has been the style name for decades...research
But this is like getting a masters in pharmacy when you really just want to become an x-ray tech. They should create a cheaper, shorter, more focused course on braiding. Maybe even these ladies can be the first board members/ reps of braiding in the cosmetology world.
Lydia Dang do you mean “they” as in the board? No one can make these alternative tests other than the actual braiders themselves. Maybe that will help their argument. They just get the test approved elsewhere by qualified, culturally mindful, hair professionals.
Lydia Dang the crazy thing about it is, some community colleges do offer such a program where you get a certificate afterwards. I don’t know. Maybe because in the state of Maryland you don’t need a cosmetology license to braid hair that they are offering this. But it doesnt matter if you go for the training or not, this person is heavy handed and it takes the person a lot of practice to learn how to lighten up their grip.
Though I get what you’re saying... you can’t get a masters in Pharmacy only a Doctorate. As a Pharmacist, I thought I’d inform you. 🙂
@@Misslee-vh9gg it's not like that in Europe. Pharmacy is 5 years and you have a master degree at the end. Later you can go for a PhD if you want.
They should have some form of license... Not full cosmetology school...But some form of a short license just like a food handler's license...
SARAH HANSON why so?
I disagree, her customers are black. We grew up getting our hair braided on front porches in our hoods. Hair braiding is our culture. Why are people outside of the culture, that have no understanding making decisions on how we get our hair braided? This is about money and control.
@@lovesue86 I understand...I also understand it can be done 2 tight ..without proper cleaning of tools...with a small licence ..cheep ..small class...U could charge more ...I am not saying full tuition... I'm not saying that your aunt can't braid your hair or something like that or friend...but all professionals should have a professional license and also should be paid more because you have that professional license...I'm not saying it needs to be months or anything like that long maybe a day or two or something just to get cleaning tools down not making two braids too tight and also you may learn a thing or two that you didn't know which would be awesome and if you don't maybe you could teach the class... And make money teaching a class...I by no means and putting down your culture it's not a race issue..
people dont go to school for a lot of things and still manage to be successful!
supa_cent didnt go to college for business but she is now a multi millionaire because shes doing her passion
lil shawty look kinda good in them cornrows
She for sure is beautiful and the cornrows only added to that .
This is Nothing but Hateration... Leave that lady alone.
Karen Wright I believe in licensing, but not the price. Personally if I was a black woman and I had such beautiful hair I would want it taken care of. I dont want to risk cross contamination. The liscesing is to make sure these ladies have an education on scalp health. Making the total cost of it should only be $50 to maybe $150.
Rebecca Miller I agree with you but this is not about licensing, it's about this woman being Competition & that is my issue.
And racism,if white ladies wanted this done on a regular basis besides when they go to the Dominican, it would already legal.
They need to implement braid licensing just like they have in Texas.
Its not just about braiding! They need to learn sanitation, skin and scalp disorders the makeup of hair period. So many women are walking around bald and without a hairline because of traction alopecia caused by braids smh y'all better educate yourselves. They don't sanitize those damn combs and put them in EVERYBODY'S head, disgusting
First and foremost, hair braiders should not have to attend cosmetology school. I'm a licensed cosmetologist and not once during my 12 months in Cosmo school did we ever learn how to braid hair. In fact, you learn more about chemical procedures such as hair coloring, perms, relaxers, texturizers, thermal styling such as flat ironing, blow drying, diffusing, and hair cutting. BRAIDERS DON'T DO ALL OF THAT SO THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO LEARN.
States that are so consumed with braiders having to obtain a braider's license are just money hungry. Cosmetology School cost me $20,000 in the state of Florida and that was back in 2013, so imagine how much it's increased in 2018. In some states such as NC braiders are only required to obtain a braider's license in which one would take a 2-3 week training course. To require braiders to go to school for 1200-1500 hours to obtain a cosmetology license is a rip off.
Curly Simone they tried to teach us at the Paul Mitchell school I went to and I had to braid for the teacher because he didn’t know how to. Smh
I agree
Braiding hair is completely different. There should be a health safety and hygiene requirement for braiders. Braids can cause damage, these braiders are dealing with the public so they should have knowledge. There are some comments about not washing the hair before you braid it.... When I would get my hair braided. My braider would always ask me when I last washed my hair
Eve T. That should be a given for anyone attempting to get their hair braided. I’m from Detroit and I’ve been getting my hair braiding since high school. Never did I once walk into a braid shop without a freshly washed and condition head. I was never under the impression that they are supposed to wash my hair because a hair braider is not trained to care for your strands. They just applying the hair to your head. It also important for you to make sure they not hurting your head because I have heard some horror stories of hair loss I have always found my braiders thru word of mouth.
Braiders should be licensed to know about the conditions of the scalp.
In Florida you can obtain a license to BRAID HAIR.
That’s a cool point. But definitely don’t need to be overpaying for the whole cosmetology courses. The license idea is a good happy medium I think.
This is western BS.
@@Anonyme67 no
Uh. No beauty schools barely teach braiding and when they do. It has nothing to so with the scalp. Been there done that.
Nobody is talking about how beautiful the interviewer is? Like damn 😍😍
I did. I left a nice comment for her.
@@WHITELIONNYC The thing is if she owns a mirror she should KNOW that she's very attractive.
@Tela Mamo she is tho.
@@kirkjohnson2924 healthier genetics to be half white??
@@kirkjohnson2924 weird...
I am a licensed hair braider out of Florida. There's a curriculum for hair braiders or natural hair culturalist as they are correctly called separate from cosmetologist. I took my courses in person due to my learning style yet they also have online courses. I support an education that teaches sanitation, disinfection, skin and it's diseases, disorders of the scalp, hair porosity, & how hormones and medication affect hair and the scalp. Maybe New Jersey needs to talk with Florida and see what they did right. Or, you could simply get licensed in Florida or any other state that offers a separate curriculum and license for braiding and display it in your shop/home
****Sidenote: As a business owner(licensed, home based or other) there are tax breaks (state dependant) that you now have access to......cellphone, rent, utilities, internet, postage, just to name a few. Talk to your tax person. And, there is more protection for your personal estate (state dependant) with a license versus EVERYTHING you own being fair game in a civil lawsuit filed against you for damages. Something to think about it 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏽♀️🙇🏿♀️🙇🏽♀️🙇🏾♀️💁🏿♀️💁🏾♀️💁🏽♀️
Love Bug what is the name of school
Love Bug on line? Wonderful!
The protection does not come from the hair licensing. It comes from how your business is formed. You don't need a license to braid hair to be protected if your business is an LLC
YES GIRL YES 👏👏👏
S Wiseman yes they should get s license to braid because even though they know techniques, they still need to know about sanitation and putting their implements in Barbicide. There are diseases out there like meningitis they can easily pass on from client to client if they are not cleaning their shops and implements properly. They should also be aware of scalp diseases.
Comming from an African household and also am a licensed cosmetologist. I have learned by eyewitness account and experience that just because they can braid does not mean they can take care of the integrity of your hair. How many edges have been lost to someone who is untrained in hair care? Just recently I came back from Nigeria and when I was getting my hair braided, I stopped several times to show them how to properly comb natural hair and how to secure a braid w/o destroying the root. At least there should be a mandate to take a course on hair growth cycles and how to distinguish infections...some shops reuse the same comb w/o washing. There are several violations that go on...A braid license is offered in Texas. I believe the same should be implemented there. I strongly oppose them (my ppl) from establishing shops w/o a braid license or at least a course in sanitation and safety.
Charlotte Emetom I think you make a good point. Would also make clients feel better too getting their hair done at a licensed braid shop
I agree 100% there should be a way to get a cheaper more specialized and useful braiding license! safety and hygiene are important too. but $17000 to learn cutting and coloration and stuff you dont need is just exploitation. An amendment to the law would take care of that. I hope the lady from the assembly is successful in that regard.
Charlotte Emetom Yes and as far as hair structure there are more similarities than a lot of people would think. The main difference between curly hair and straight hair is the shape of the follicle which impacts the way hair grows out of the head other than that the same rules apply, you detangle all hair the same way, all hair breaks for the same list of reasons, there are only so many reasons why a person experiences alopecia and applies to all people, disease does not discriminate, all the same disinfection and sanitation rules apply, maybe it isn't necessary for a whole cosmetology course but it may be helpful to give braiders the opportunity to learn those types of things so that they aren't just styling but also caring for the hair underneath
I see your point but how many cosmetology schools teach you about black hair care. I dont think that have a cosmetology license gives you an advantage when it comes to black hair because many schools only cater to the practices of white hair
Pauline Dennise Honestly, I know it goes against everything we've ever known, but there really is no such thing as white hair and black hair biologically. Hair is made of all the same things and due to the shape of afro hair there are some extra steps that it may take to keep the health (things like making sure the hair is moisturized, the cuticles in good condition, identifying the bonds in the hair and how they are/have been broken,etc.)
I’m a licensed cosmetologist here in California for 26 years. My education was $28,000 student loans & took 2 years to get. Believe me I think you do wonderful work. Half the stylist here can’t do what you can do. Keep that hustle. Love & respect. 😊🙏🏻❤️
Do you think your license makes you a better cosmetologist?
Oregon has something called “natural hair care” license just for braids and wigs - I’m not sure how much it costs but I’m sure it’s a lot less than full license
See this makes me wanna move to Oregon I'm from Idaho
Same with Florida
Is that natural hair? Braids and wigs is not what I think about when discussing natural hair, but they are trying.
@@abassue22 the extensions and wigs are often made from real hair. and i suppose its about the fact that no chemicals are applied for any of those procedures.
Same in NY. Braiders get a different license from stylists. It’s cheaper, requires fewer training hours (300hrs instead of 1500), and does not include color, perm, or other chemicals.
That barber couldn’t braid three strands together
thepeacefish bruh, he looked lost the whole time🤦🏾♀️😂 I don’t think he even knew or completely understood what they were talking about.
Like that woman maybe that was never his choice like she chooses not to deal with chemicals. I prefer cutting over dyeing hair but does that mean I got to skip school? Nope
He’s old tho
@@klbog4816 the issue is that the cosmetology schooling experience does not have a large focus on cultural braiding and so is only catered towards cutting, styling and colouring ‘white hair.’ Thereby why should they need this education if it is irrelevant to what they are doing
I'm so tired of this fight. All braid shops should have a separate license that FOCUSES on sanitation, cleaniness, proper bookings and SANITATION.
KaneneProductions: exactly.
KaneneProductions I agree in New York City I went to school for natural hair license they teach all the things you mention, plus shampoo and roller sets , how to clip ends property. And how to recognize if someone comes in with a fungus in the hair and what to do .
What was so funny about the class it was a white lady teaching me how to braid
Hairline Preservation and SANITATION again and "Stop Braiding Brains Popping Tight"
not him saying “what is he gonna do, braid all his life” as if he didn’t start as a child and is pushing 90 while still cutting hair GOODBYE
"What's that guy gonna do, braid all his life?"
Same could be said about you and your simple ass haircuts dude. But okay.
He's been cutting hair since the the 1920s.
Someone should go to his shop and ask for braids. He had training, didn’t he?!
@@elliekrosa418 RIGHT!🤔
Fr tho & he been cutting hair his whole life smh
Just create a free or cheap course that focuses solely on hair braiding
Ya best believe it won't be free and not cheap. Government wants their piece of the pie.
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Depending on the state, they do have programs like that. I paid $180 for my entire Natural Hair Care course at a Community college.
That entire conversation with Peter Marci at the barbershop just made me want to pull my hair out (no pun intended). People in power make so many assumptions for other people when they have no idea what they're talking about. How can you just decide on something like that for thousands of people doing something 100% unrelated to you. He doesn't even sound interested in listening to their side of the story.
He even seems like he has a hard time using the word "she" in a professional conversation.
Wow, you described my feelings exactly
I'm not sure he even understood what she was talking about. He seemed very addled.
That man was not interested, he came across as this was a joke. These kind of people just rub me the way. They speak on things they do not know about. They just want black people to stuffer yet again.
There should be a separate certificate for strictly braiding and African American techniques. I agree they should be certified just because of legal reasons and safety/hygiene education, but it’s not fair for them to have to take a long and expensive program which is 90% things they won’t use.
They definitely need to update the license procedures in every state. Experienced braiders should be able to take a shorter less expensive course so they can have a legal license and be able to keep there shops.
This is so funny. Two different worlds.
I got weak when the barber said somebody needs to be qualified and licensed to braid hair.
@3:55 Black Jesus with dread locks and his mother Mary as a black woman.
That Ghanaian lady is about it she don't play.
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abc Shit..😊 😄😅😃that's how Jesus supposed to look like to black people
Isatu Kamara how did you get the name “Isatu” ? What is the meaning ?
Exactly, he's so ignorant. Never braided any kind of hair a day in his life, but he thinks he can speak on it. Typical.
Isatu Kamara If you actually READ the Bible...he wouldn't LOOK black to JUST BLACK people....
This is bullshit. Let this lady beautify and feed her damn family In peace!!
Anything to keep our people down 😩 but we overcome always ❤❤
but all your people do is cry like you just did
That's right we always do.
@Q J. They are literally asking for their businesses be seen as legal. Legal businesses pay taxes. In other words, they are asking to pay taxes. I hope you have learned something today.
@koldemig. Our people is talking to an assembly woman to get a bill passed. They are exposing unfair requirements through social media and other platforms. I hope you learned something today.
Impulsive Burst. What this shows me is they dont overcome anything, cant pass the requirements so we want lesser requirements. so basicly they ask for less requirements cause they cant pass as it is now. thats crying not overcoming hard times. but i didnt comment on the video i answered a comment just to make that clear
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... they wnt to make money off of everything in the way if taxes.
Braiding is indeed a gift! At the age of 9yrs old, my daughter could braid hair. By the time she was 13, she had the neighborhood moms and dads scheduling appointments with her to braid their daughter’s hair in the awe dropping intricate designs she innately learned how to do. I can’t braid worth a lick, but many women in my family in other states can braid hair and no one in my family taught no free or no $99 courses on braiding. My daughter was born with that gift from her ancestors and now she is a successful cosmetologist, but during her education not one time did she ever take a class in hair braiding at school. At best, there was probably one page in a book that referenced it so this is stupid. Just another way to try to make money and keep Blacks folks down.
African braiding is an artform. ❤
All the usual "You'll only understand if you're an [insert group]" stuff aside, if all you're going is braiding hair then I don't see why you'd need a licence.
Just typical government bureaucracy. Their state government seems to treat all businesses in this sector the same. I don't think this is a racial thing. This is just another case of government over-reaching into the private sector. The issue is if they make an exception to their regulations on this case, then they open the door to all other exceptions. Better to scrap their outdated licensing process completely than to let it get poked apart. That's when people lose complete faith in the few regulations that are on the books.
Nah, slippery slopes need not apply. Cosmetologists have an interest in keeping the licensing system around because of the techniques they use. People can be seriously injured if someone fucks up with the kinds of chemicals used for modern cosmetology. Its like any trade nowadays, people have to get certified, and the people who are already certified will have an interest in keeping the system around since possessing a cert needed for a job will both provide you with work and keep others out of the job. There is a cosmetology board, just like the medical board, they dont want people operating outside of their system because they will "loose out" on money they may earn if people had another option to go to. Normally this kind of system works well because you dont want uncertified doctors killing people just like you dont want some wannabe cosmetologist giving someone 3rd degree chemical burns, or some fake engineer designing structures that collapse.
Yeah, that's why she has a wall of commercial hair dryers. She's not a hair salon, she's a "braiding" shop, and oh LAWD the white man is trying to enslave me again.
How many chemicals, dyes, and perms, you think the average barber gives his male clients in a month, a year? He still needs the same cosmetology license, he gets it, he hangs it on the wall and gets on grinding out his niche in life without turning it into the outrage of the century. 'Nuff said.
Chuck Farley Yes that may be true however it's equally as likely that the hair dryer is just used after washing someone's hair so it's easier to deal with.
Chuck Farley
A barber cuts hair. Braiding doesn’t remove or chemically alter anything. That’s the difference.
If I can't walk into white dude's barbershop, and be like "cornrows Pops!" He has no valid opinion to offer on any level.
That’s hilarious! “Let me get them straightbacks Pops”😂😂😂
Hello Sir He is on the broad that will make the decision on whether a license is required for hair braiding. Interviewing him was relevant to the story. Try paying attention next time instead of being racist.
eric robinson Love it!
braiding is a service so they need to be taxed and make sure it sanitary. you can sue that lady if you catch a disease or lose your hair because they don't have license. sanitation and taxes are the states care about
Beverly Carter ironically neither of you paid much attention, he is not on the board, he was in the past. Also the decision was a bill being proposed so it would not be up to the board.
I love what one of the girls have airpods🤣
1:36 So... You just gonna out your girl like that? 👀
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This is literally why people need to make sure all demographics of people are represented before decisions are made. How can you have a board of old white men who do not know black hair or have an idea of how braiding works make decisions regarding braiding hair. This is messed up, have they even done some research on hair braiding? If they had they would realize that it is cultural and often taught in people's homes. They make valid points on needing to go to school to handle chemicals or to cut hair, however you do not need use any harmful chemicals or tools to braid hair! Its honestly a waste of money for hair braiders to go to cosmology school. If they really want to regulate or make sure everyone meets a certain standard, they should get a group of experienced braiders to come up with a test or licenses to license hair braiders. There also needs to be more representation on this board, I don't know if the board is diverse from the decisions being made I doubt it is. #RepresentationBeforeDecisions!
Natsai Ndebele I agree with you but more people have to vote to get a divorce bored.
Natsai Ndebele #FACTS coming from a licensed cosmetologist also!
Exactly! This old white guy retired from the board. He doesn’t know jack about black hair.
on all laws, not just hair related! everything in this ignored constitution should be reassessed!!
All they need to do is have a one (six hour) or two (eight hour, maybe?) day class on basic hygiene, keeping combs and such clean, what to do if a customer has lice or something, how to keep from spreading things like scabies or ringworm.... Just the medical/cleanliness aspect of a job that has you putting your ungloved hands on people's hair and scalp. Charge a couple hundred bucks. This is much like what the Alliance of Professional Tattooists does, in a six-hour course on blood-born pathogens and the like. Pass that class, *only* do braiding (no sidelining out to dyes or whatever), and you get a braiding license. Seems a simple solution.
TabaquiJackal906 Exactly anything else would probably be costly and unnecessary.
TabaquiJackal906 perfect solution 👏🏼
Yes, they do, just not as often. Easily googleable fact.
That's how it is in Florida...Got my license in a weekend
D Goshay Anyone can get lice.
Where she at cus I need my hair done lol
Nisa Elizabeth right 😂
Wait. Then why do they sell at home perm kits in regular stores.
things you do yourself don't need to be licensed but for public health services you provide to the public are regulated. you can cook a meal for you family but not run a restaurant. you can pull you child's loose tooth but not operate as a dentist.
@@damnphone3446 So whats the difference between an Auntie braiding the hair of the girls in the neighborhood without a license and getting paid to do it? You are making false equivalencies. Cooking food and braiding hair not comparable. Besides, you don't need to go to culinary school to run a restaurant. You only need to get a serve safe certification, which i did in high school for 20 dollars in 1 day. And pulling your child's tooth is definitely not the same as braiding hair. You are comparing creating an open wound in a child's mouth to styling someones hair without chemicals.
You know that braiding is primarily done by and for black women right?
Needlecrash oh my god.
I think they need a license but it should be separate. A lot of people who braid hair will jack your hair up. They should lobby for that.
Yes to many disappearing Edges because they braid sooo dang tight around that area! School will teach them at least the importance of "Edge" preservation!
I agree but the license shouldn't cost the braiders 18k and then they aren't taught about the black hair they are going to be braiding. That's just too much money.
kcototheyoyoyo even licensed stylist can jack your hair up, a piece of paper isn't going to guarantee the safety of your hair
Yep. They also learn about hygiene in school as well. Also...what about male barbers who only cut hair and don’t color? Should they need a license too?
Yes but braiding hair isnt taught in costomtogy school
Cosmetology school is far too Eurocentric. My cousin and I had to fight, and were met with all types of backlash from our classmates, to have mannequins with 4a, 4b, and 4c hair.
There should be braiding (natural hair) certification. Just setting up shop and doing braiding is not a good idea. Knowing what damages hair braiding, twisting, interlocking... hair too tight or doing certain styles on damaged hair is not good for the clients hair. You don't want a nice looking style but it makes your hair break out (protect them edges) you want healthy head of hair.
But having a "natural" hair only certification is a hard sell for people who think they are the default of everything. The barber who shook his head after saying, "what they're going JUST braid hair?" He couldn't even wrap his head around that.
These women who are braiders could get their cosmotology licences and get paid to teach braiding in the cosmology schools. Become instructors.
Thank you all for liking my post. These braiders are making a living for themselves and families.
Why get licensed? First of all it's not just in the Black culture. I'm part Native American it is also in our culture to braid hair. Second its the law, its to protect the braiders and the customers.
I'm sure they would get a lot of pushback from having strong accents and speaking broken english. Also why would they sell off their tradition? What they have learned has been passed down generationally.
Helen Trotter it doesn’t matter they want to do it on people not teach people like I teached myself how to do braids were I love you just need a lisense to have a store not lisences to have a shop p.s I’m 12 so forget the mistakes
Helen Trotter umm it is the black culture did native Americans start braiding no black people did.
Well, in Jamaica there's no such thing as a cosmetology license! Ain't none of us died from the hair salons! Lol!
Rose Xoxo People licensed in the U.S and yet customers still have hair damage.Black people jus need to wear their hair in natural state. Licensing is mostly for profit.
Marley Johnson braiding has been a part of black people for centuries it’s not going away
blackfemme I was talking about beautician license and hair damage not about braiding.
Jamaica is a Black-majority country. Of course there wouldn't be any such thing as a cosmetology license whereas the US is a White-majority country.
Because this video is 3 years old and was weeks before the law was heard on the floor, and apparently Vice doesn't follow up, here's an UPDATE: The bill was signed into law. It took a year to sort out the changes they needed to make. They now offer a limited cosmetology license specifically for braiding that requires 40 or 50 hours of training, depending on whether the hairstylist has more than three years of experience braiding. As part of the law, they will increase the number of members on the Board of Cosmetology from 11 to 13, and two of those members must own or operate a hair braiding shop in New Jersey.
Thank you!
Braiding is such a huge part our culture and community
My mother was a trained beautician, and she was NEVER trained how to braid hair. I am 100% in agreement that chemical free braiders should not be held to the same standards as those that do actual chemical treatments (bleaching, relaxing, etc.). I also agree that there needs to be a system in place to keep those that would try to abuse that idea, and also protect consumers from 'bad braiders'.
Otherwise, these ladies have my full support.
I support the separation of hair braiding and haircuts with chemicals etc. in law so that those who don’t use chemicals and whatever else, only braid and cut/style, shouldn’t need a cosmetology license.
I must say as a cosmetologist who has had her license for 32 years I do not feel like they need to get the full cosmetology certification I do think that they need to do a chapter or the chapters on braiding sterilization and sanitation hair disorder scalp disorders and things of that nature everybody should practice safe hygienic laws rules whatever you want to call it innovation know about the tightness alopecia so many varying diseases with that being said if your focus is just on Brady let this woman make her living she shouldn't have to pay 22,000 + to get a cosmetology license that she will never need especially if she's not going to use color especially if she's not going to use chemicals or any other things is that nature with that being said they should have to recertify they should have to have their license they should have to go to courses and classes to State turn on rules regulations sanitation everything of that nature and I must say when I went to cosmetology school it was $3,500 some of these prices now are astronomical it's like buying a brand new car good luck my 😱🥰🙋
How many people have no hair line from their hair being braided too tightly. There has to be some type of training and knowledge about hair. Everyone has to be held accountable.
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The braids that she got during the video looked soooo Good!!
A license just to braid hair. Sounds like a mob shakedown.
The interviewer better hope she cleaned that comb.And washed her hands.This sanitation thing is no joke.
That old man probably didn't even know what braiding is
They should have a license but not extensive like a cosmetology license and definitely not expensive. That is ridiculous. Allow them to make a living. They certainly need to learn how to not take folks edges out which is very common amongst women who get their hair braided, having it braided too tight and rinse chemicals from the synthetic hair before using it. I stopped getting my hair braided because the women I had been to didn't know anything about combing black hair without ripping it, didn't know about pulling edges too tight can cause traction alopecia and sometimes those chemicals in that synthetic hair can cause your own hair to break.
Apple cider vinegar rinse is how u get that film off extensions...I think CZcams is killing these guys business too...why charge a premium when u can go to ur aunt or find a way around to get the same look for little to nothing
They should also like other hair proffesionals, learn about infectious disease control. Id hope the combs were being santizied after each use(not thrown away because thats a huge waste and they will just clog up the land fills) because who knows what kind of sores or scabs could have been on the previous clients scalp. But theres absolutly no reason for them to have to know everything about cutting or chemical treatments. Barbers and hairstylst have different courses and criteria because they are doing different things barbers dont usually deal with dyes or harsh chemicals so they dont need to know how to deal with them, so why should Braiders? Plus Barbers do have apprentishships where all you have to do is apprentice under a master barber and apply to take the test..My brother didnt go to school to learn to be a barber, he just did a quick corse on the saftey side and took a test($1000-1500 all together) which is much cheaper than going to school. Braiders should be treated the same. Mayne "master"braiders can be observed by the board to ensure they are skilled enough to mentor and that they have all the saftey protocals down..that seems like a good compromise.
Joycelyn Antwi Good...they charge too much...$200 or more for some DAMN box braids.
@ vianjelos This comment is absolutely brilliant!!! There has to be a compromise.
Beautiful comment - I couldn't agree more.
They should be licensed. It’s more than just braiding hair. If your are not properly sanitizing your combs and brushes that’s a problem that’s how things are spread. Just wiping a comb and putting it in the next persons head is nasty. Also one needs to know the different types of infections when doing someone’s hair. Certain infections shouldn’t be worked on.
Girl shut up . These are Africans , they have been braiding hair since the beginning of time .
😂😂 you have obviously never gotten your hair braid.. they soaked the combs in that blue liquid(idk what it’s called) they don’t just use the same combs on everyone.
So you would spend 10,000 or more to learn how to sanitize some combs?
@@mischiefmanaged1252 EXACTLY
@@sumurwilliams8006 It's only so expensive now bc they're required to go to full cosmetology school which is so ridiculous. Getting a professional license specifically for braiding should exist and be affordable. Licenses are needed to protect people getting their hair done. But done right, they'd benefit hair braiders too. Not only would they give their businesses better quality and increase peoples trust, but they'd also have another business opportunity of running the certification classes as the experts in the trade
I’ve been braiding for for 30 years and yes I’m a licensed cosmetologist. I work in a salon that provides all haircare services. I braid on two days ... color on two days ...relaxers on one day ... so yes I feel it’s good to be well rounded
She doesn't want to be rounded. She wants to focuse on just braiding . She shouldn't have to pay $20k for something she does not need.
She’s a professional. 👌🏾👸🏽👩🏾🦱👩🏿🦱👩🏽🦱👩🏼🦱👩🏻🦱💋
this is so strange to us Africans, that something we grew up doing could be treated this way in your country. We normaly learn braiding while playing dress up as little girls. I remember starting with grass, my dolls, my friends..I can understand their frustration with this weird law. But then again, this is the same country that will send you to jail for letting your kids play outside or not having a permit to hang laundry.😩 A business permit should be enough. Let people be.
gloria kinya most children do
Kay sis everybody knows about hygiene you don’t need to go school and pay 20k to learn it
I also remember learning to braid as a child I am a white American. I learned at 3 and progressed each year like reading books, my braids got better. Did that mean I didn’t go to elementary,middle or high school because I already knew how to read? On the contrary I went to school to become more intelligent and wise, which is what cosmetology schools provides. Intelligent and wise ways to keep you and your client happy and safe.
K l B OG school is required by law while you’re a certain age. Learning to read is just something that comes with it. Not really understanding your argument.
There should be a mini certification for braiding, like a week long course that just makes sure that all the health and safety stuff is known, and to discuss different styles and techniques and make sure everyone is on the same page. Because inexperienced braiders can do damage if their technique is off. All it would be is you see the braider has a cert, and you have piece of mind that they haven't just decided to start braiding and you don't end up with hair that a child could have done
Maybe different levels of skill, different braids take time to learn so when you get your cert you get awarded a bronze, silver, gold or diamond award, diamond being for the highest skilled out there, and you can always re apply for a higher level.
This would keep the old white men in chairs happy, keep the consumer safe if they don't know the local salons, and keep the worker safe from fines
I am a licensed cosmetologist 20yrs. Yes they should have to go through a course of study. Have you seen the price of braiding and they have no license!? The state wants their money and the braiders should know sanitation. The license keeps you accountable if you injure a client. I am a professional. I want to keep my profession pure. There has to be some sort of standard. I don't feel sorry for them. Why should I pay taxes and they don't?
4:20 she just came here to flex 🤣🤣
I think there should be a course for sanitation and a certificate issued. That comb she's using still needs to be sanitized. Those shears she's using still need to be sanitized. Do they need a FULL cosmetology license? No. A barber doesn't even have that. There are levels. Cosmetology being the highest. It goes manicurist, esthetician, barber, cosmetologist. A cultural braider can come before a manicurist. Maybe 50 hours of sanitation, a test on sanitation, and a certificate to prove they know how to be clean... just like a food service worker. No, not everyone has or needs 5 star chef training, but if you're going to work in a kitchen, you need to know how to work around food and be verified and certified. This is no different. I think that's fair.
Yeah. I'm not sure it's the license that's the main issue anyways, it's the cost of that license. If it were affordable and actually taught them what they need (maybe even offered classes on braiding for people who want to learn), it probably wouldn't be an issue.
*I got my food service license inline for $7-8 bucks. It was mostly just common sense. Why can't there be something like that for braiders as well as an AFFORDABLE week long class?*
In the state of New Jersey barbers nail techs and skin care all need the same 1200 hours and state license to practice legally.
They should have a license, but maybe there should be a better way to get one if you already have the skills you need to be a professional. Maybe a written test or a single course to test their skills in action?
mossara Or some degree which does not need money to get.
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Why? Braiding hair is not cheap and they basically get paid in cash.
Shut up
mossara there were but ppl care about time it’s faster to give a test than to watch a person
How tf can you give a test on something you could never understand are you going to put these African women on the board?🙄 How the tf can you regulate something you could never understand....?
Cosmetology should be more diverse and include care for black women's natural hair. However the tension that these braided and styling aids are damaging. I believe there should be a regulatory system in place for them to reduce risk
I don't see why she needs to be trained on chemicals if she doesn't use chemicals in her practice.
She needs to be trained on sanitation and the health of hair and scalps. A lot of untrained braiders, though they braid good, spread things because they do not clean properly. Or end up damaging clients hair becuase they grip it to the point that it causes alopecia.
Obviously, if the cosmetology schools don't teach you how to braid and you only wanna braid, then its a waste of money. Either the braiders shouldn't need a license or the cosmetology schools should teach braiding. You shouldn't have to pay for school, where the entire curriculum is comprised of stuff you're never gonna need.
Theres a seperate cosmetology course for braiding. It teaches the same stuff such as hygene and different diseases but focuses on braids. It should be necessary.
They do teach it though?
Well after I done seen ppl hair and the sanitary concerns in some braid shops a certification would be nice. For example I seen shops not clean Combs or hair and spread stuff in braid shops 😷 which gives me the heeby jeebys and I seen shops snatch women's edges.off literally something has to be done!! Like a quick course on how to actually take care of hair in a healthy manner And for the prices some shops charge it wouldn't hurt to have something letting ppl know I have this credential but feel free to enlighten me about why a braider should not be licensed ....maybe not a full extensive class like Cosmo but a shorter version possibly specifically for braiders ...but I don't do hair so I'm not 100% knowledgeable
BRANDON DAVIS girl it was not that serious. She just said that braiding hair need to be licensed somehow but cost less than a full cosmetology license. Ur response was unwarranted. We all know those African aunties that be snatching our thoughts and braiding our scalp along with it and using that same fine tooth comb they just used on 5 other people u know damn well they didn’t clean. Growing up in Nigeria and visiting my family in Kenya, and of course the African braiding shops in Texas where I live, the practices are all too common in all three countries I’ve lived in. No ones saying they didn’t make some good points or are moving to white people. Just saying there should be a more cheaper and practical braiding specific licensing process that focuses only on hair and scalp health because these women already have the skill they need to run their business and don’t deal w/ chemicals when braiding so there’s nothing cosmetology school can teach them. But there should be some sort of regulation and licensing process tho. I personally don’t care and personally vet whoever I touch let my hair and if they’re doing something I don’t like I stop them but I can understand those who want some sort of regulation.
The lady said that it should be licensed but not to pay bare and learn things that they don't need like wth…
I don't think anyone should have to get certified for this. Some of us learn how to braid and do various braiding styles from a VERY young age. Practice makes perfect. There are no chemicals involved so you shouldn't need any certification. If anything they should only be required to learn how to properly sanitize.
In Pennsylvania, our board of Cosmetology created a specialized license for Hair Braiding, along the lines of the specialized Estheticians and Nail Techs. They should look at what other states are doing as examples, especially states with reciprocal licensing. It's not rocket science, folks.
I'm a hair stylist ....and I think braiders should have training in cleanliness, business , and sanitation. Cosmetology school doesn't teach braiding courses ...so licencing for braiding doesn't make sense .
I hate to bring race into this but it’s people making rules that don’t understand black hair. Most of them most likely even understand that braiding and other natural hair styles don’t include chemicals and stuff.
I think a new kind of license that covers to health part of doing hair such as sanitary practices and sterilization of tools should be offered. The way nail salons don’t need The whole degree just the classes on nails and sterilization of tools.
There are states with natural hair licenses that require 300-500hrs. In the state of FL it is no longer needed to practice natural hair (braiding)! But, to touch someone’s head IS a responsibility ( I am a licensed cosmetologist). So there is a need for natural talent to learn about what responsibility they have over someone’s head. Sanitation, Blood borne illnesses, etc- are taught through hair schools. That’s why licensed programs were put in place. I practice Jaír extensions - I still need to know about those things even though I’m not required a license to do so in my state.
I think they should be licensed to braid because they need to know how to approach different hair textures and chemically treated hair. A person with relaxed hair or colour treated hair may have weaker strands than a all natural. There are horror stories about thigt braids leading to hair loss and breakage. Also, chemicals are used on weaves during production which may cause skin irritations, they need to understand how to neutralize chemicals and chemical reactions. However, the price for training is way too much.
I completely agree with the need for the bill! I've gone to licensed places multiple times with my black hair (not the color I'm taking about my face /ethnicity) and they didn't have a clue! Couldn't even cut it! And they are the "trained" ones. Getting my hair braided at these shops wasn't even an option. It's hard for people who don't understand the needs of our hair or the techniques we use to style it to accept that it's different. I'm not debating whether or not their should be a license, but that the qualification process should be separate.
@2:03 the braids are a good look for her ijs.... lol
It looks so Good!!!! I'm on my way to the beauty supply store to get the same 😍
So, story outcome: The governor amended the bill to add some licensing requirements. The cosmetologist 1200 hrs was dropped to 40 hrs for braiders -- of which it would mostly focus on sanitation, infection control, and consumer safety. 50 hours recommended for those new to the trade. This bill passed in 2019.
thank you for the outcome, i was looking for it, have a good day, stay safe
but how come my local cosmetology school in FL is only $5,600 ??? and I have known successful people out of the program
So I guess there would need to be a license or certification for braiding. Im not opposed to that, another way for women like the ones in this video to make BREAD & put other braiders in position to be their own boss. If they could find out a way to run it themselves why not.
but im sure thats all easier said than done lol
Agreed. I would totally go to a certification program on strictly braiding. I live in Vermont. We have hundreds of people who come from Jamaica to work in the resort. The closest place to get their hair done is 3 hours away or amongst themselves.
Her hair is gorgeous
Lol thumbs down soon as they see black people😂. I thumbed up. Braiding in black culture globally always been around...now you want to charge blacks for something they been doing for centuries.
Saving/ me Every culture braids their hair black people always think they're so special lmao. "Black people been drinking water for generations, it's part of our culture you know?"
James Russeller III Incorrect braiding? You're really an idiot.
James Russeller III I don’t think you watched the video. . .
Pill Cosby
But I don't think I've seen another people group that braids their hair like black people do. The way black women braid their hair can be traced back to African customs.
Pill Cosby
that's irrelevant, otherwise you'd see other races in this video complaining about the issue....CLEARLY we see who this issue affecting more. Braiding hair isn't really a part of that many cultures and even if it is...its not going through this issue
University costs more than a couple grand, and I learned a lot of stuff I'll never use at a job. It still stands as a certification to my knowledge of the subject matter I studied. How is this different?
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"But not like that-"