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"Am I thinking, or am I just thinking that I'm thinking "
*Hits blunt*
-Bill Nye
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You're thinking either way. You are currently thinking, therefore you exist.
Oh, Wow!
Wtf
Billl Nye would tear this pseudoscientific, "spriritual", woo-ey piece down.
The Templeton Foundation are, among things like climate change deniers, absolutely biased due to religious beliefs.
*Bill Nye the pseudoscience guy
If it is an illusion, what is being illuded?
Us
U
@@piRatCaptainwhat is you, me? 😛
Reality, kinda obvious
Read Bhagavat Gita
0:00 Introduction to hard Consciousness problem
4:55 Christof Koch's view: Neuroscientist
12:17 Swami Sarvapriyanada view: Spiritual view
19:06 Reid Hoffman view: Tech entrepreneur Co started ChatGPT
27:00 Melanie Mitchell view: Artificial intelligence
30:27 Sir Roger Penrose view: Nobel prize Physhist
35:57 Final insights
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thank you so much
@@underastar 😎🖖
Hero~!!!
@@HomoCognitus 😁👍
I ended up watching it because of your comment, so thank you! You helped deepen a strangers view of life!
Wow, this was one of the best documentaries about consciousness that I have seen. The host Kmele Foster did an amazing job with each interview and kept me thinking the whole time.
Even if all that I perceive as external reality is an illusion, the illusion exists
External reality isn't an illusion, our perception of the outside world is a cobbled together electrical representation of the external world. I'd argue 'yes' bits and pieces are illusory because the brain is constantly editing our awareness but the majority of what we experience isn't an illusion.
@@CaptApril123 Are you positive external reality isn’t an illusion being created by your singular mind?
@@Null_Simplex if its an illusion being created by an internal part then its not an "external reality" then is it and if it was truly the case it wouldn't make sense how any of our complicated devices work on their own outside of any of us interacting with them
@@Null_Simplexour minds constantly process this reality allowing us to perceive this physical realm, with vision, touch, smell and scent other than our fundamental senses the actual foundation of reality is beyond comprehension, why would we need to comprehend what cannot be perceived ?
@DiogenesNephew If by 'support' you conflate that with 'absolutely infallibile, omnisciently certain proof'...but, that would be _stupid_
Hats off to the host, Kmele Foster. He was thoroughly engaged with each of the interviewees and asked intelligent and insightful questions. I love content like this. Keep it up!
Probably a fan of this sort of questions. I too, in my free time I tried to read books I'm currently reading "Intelligence: A very short introduction" by Ian J. Deary
@@CZcamsArtProjecthe said early on that this was something he thinks about a lot. I wonder why its something we think about so much. I do because i think im a bad person lol. I dont read any books about it though im trying to find my own reasons for these things. Probably not good but another brain on the subject couldnt hurt.
Indeed!
@@Iamthatguypal820 Laughing out loud. It's amusing to witness a brain attempting to comprehend itself. It's insane that the most complex thing that we know in the universe, resides as a mass within our skull.
@@Iamthatguypal820
Knowledge, or books, is shorthand, or shortcuts on what others have figured out (or, at least, has tried to). Why not avail yourself of their experience? We cannot experience/know all things ourselves; there's not enough time in our lives for that.
I thought this would be one of those videos that i watch for 5 minutes and move on. However, it was so interesting that i watched the entire thing.
I really enjoyed this and thought you did a great job of addressing all these different perspectives of consciousness. I mean, you could make a whole series of 45-minute videos (or longer!) just on consciousness. And maybe you should. I think it's an incredibly interesting topic to many of us. I would love to see you talk to other philosophers and neuroscientists about it, including Anil Seth, Sam Harris, Donald Hoffman, Bernardo Kastrup, Jay Garfield, and perhaps experts on psychedelics and consciousness, and philosophers who believe in simulation theory, etc. I have my own hunches (or wishes), but I love to hear about different perspectives because I always learn about new possibilities, and since there's no way to prove any of this (at least not yet), it's all kind of fair game, as far as I see it!
'it is light of light' i think is the most comprehensive phrase for consciousness
Actually, It is when IT is Known for What IT is, Crystal Clear Clarity Knowing IT Self.
There is no "I" who thinks. Thinking is just happening just like everything else is.
It is what it is.
The monk gentleman was very well spoken, and the way he worded things was just pure joy to listen to. 😮❤
Just stopped at it, saw you, had to intervene, well spoken doesn't mean correct, there is a correlation, because to be well spoken you need to have studied more on manners which requires discipline, so you should be able to study more, but to be correct you need half of it, but with more knowledge. Whether that is the case, i have not seen it yet to judge for myself.
He's well informed philosophically, but very, very wrong about science. He said science claims absolute truth. But fallibility is a critical component to how science progresses. Understanding that our best theories can be replaced by better ones, is opposite to the idea of absolute truth.
@@uninspired3583 Well only genuine scientists understand that. Newton, Einstein after being hailed as some of the greatest scientists to be ever born, had the childlike simplicity and honesty to admit how little they and science actually know about the nature. Do you expect this straightforwardness and honesty from every so-called scientists to admit their flaw and to accept their shortcomings? Actually people who are mediocore scientists are always bullying religion and the idea of god, claiming that science is all powerful and all knowing. In that respect where true scientists are ever inquisitive and open to any possibility but where today's most so-called scientists are just dismissive about anything except materialistic science, the monk's comment is apt.
He said a lot of nothingburger
Yet not a shred of proof outside of the religious babble.
This is sooooo amazing! I’m a witch and all of this is contemplated daily, sometimes hourly. It becomes a conscious part of our lives. Collectively 🖤
This has to be one of, the best Videos Ive ever seen.
To the Host, Outstanding! Engagement and Questioning. I felt as if it were I, myself asking these questions.
PLEASE CONTINUE This kind of thought and production!!!
What Swami Sarvapriyananda said is intriguing. Consciousness is the light of lights.
Dumb 😂
I can't help but wonder how a blind person might interpret that though tho.
Consciousness as a concept seems much more reductionist and foundational to me than independently illuminating. Like the canvas of thoughts.
Swami Sarvapriyananda is a great spiritual orator . 🙏🕉️
Mysticism is the dark of darks.
Religious gibberish. I could just as well say a banana is the light of lights.
Consciousness is so basic, simple, ephemeral, fragile, and at the same time so powerfully meaningful and important that people simply can not imagine it has not a special structure or clear place in the physical world or bodies.
Does people not being able to imagine something have any effect on the truth value of that claim?
This piece is gonna be a good study on fallacious reasoning.
@@tempestive1 western dumbbells are pretty good in fallacies
Yeah maybe awareness is basic and simple like water, so simple yet everything arises out of from it. But still that isn’t a good enough answer.
Absolutely spellbinding in it's content. We are surrely much morre than just a pile of atoms. I reached a point of complete awareness in this video's attempt to define it's purpose right at the end when I saw the dog being loved and the woman shedding a tear. It moved me...
Wow! What a wonderful video! Full of experts, a terrific interviewer and of course the biggest question of all time.
Will definitely subscribe to this channel and share it with people I know. Thank you!
Whom do you suppose to be an expert in what and why?
One of the most eye opening things I’ve learned about consciousness was through my undergraduate work in psychology. I lucid dream occasionally and wondered how this happens in a brain state that is fundamentally characterized by reduced consciousness. So I began comparing cognitive and neuroscientist papers on dreaming, lucid dreaming, and wake states. Come to find out, lucid dreaming is more similar to being AWAKE than regular dreaming. It happens through increase brain activity in parts of the brain that are specifically quieres during non-lucid sleep. So then what is sleeping? How can I be “more” awake than non-lucid dreaming and remain asleep? Why is dreaming so essential to survival that it continues despite full consciousness awareness of it? Science is so beautiful because the questions never end.
That's because sleeping is a very complicated process and reduced consciousness is only one part of it. There are people that in certain circumstances wake up to discover that their bodies are still sleeping while their mind is fully awake. Sleeping is an optimized way of resting out bodies, settle in our memories, and solve our subconscious (though dreaming). And the thing is that we can do all those things while we are conscious, just not as well as when we are sleeping and our consciousness is reduced.
I know how dreaming works: there is a membrane that separates surface reality and internal reality. All impressions are embedded into the membrane from the surface and then the internal eye aka Internal awareness processes these impressions aa dreams. Internal awareness is a blind eye to surface reality. The blind eye exists in a higher dimension, hence the reason for strange dreams. Any commints? ?? ???
@@An_Escaped_Mind I would say your explaination is a philosophical one. You might wanna check out some neuroscientific findings about the topic and compare them to your view, if you are interested in the topic.
@@4_P3R50N Thanks for your feedback but those findings exist on the surface layer. Philosophical, yet the truth is what matters. Can you disprove my explanation?
consciousness is a spectrum
More of this please. I love this kind of open exploration of life & living it. The more we learn the better we become and I am 💯 on board for this!
I couldn't agree more.
Read philosophy of mind.
1. There is no "explanatory gap." Reality is just contextual, depending on your context, point of view, you can perceive it differently, and perceive different things. The first guy just dislikes the fact that viewing the neural structure of his own brain from his context is different than viewing that same brain through some other context, such as neural imaging. There is no "gap" here, just someone disliking how reality works.
2. The second religious guy argues "consciousness is fundamental" then waffles on about irrelevant things regarding raw sensual experience. Consciousness is a complex notion involving cognition, minds, subjectivity, the self, etc. It is not merely raw sensual experience but is a more complex conception derived from raw sensual experience. Yes, raw sensual experience, what I would just call *reality as such,* is self-evident, but that does not mean everything derived from it is self-evident. We both agree we live on a spinning ball orbiting a star, but that does not mean this is some sort of self-evident innate knowledge. It is knowledge derived from our experience. If you deny all concepts derivative of our experience, you also have to deny the self, minds, cognition, thought, "consciousness."
3. Penrose is right that the "hard problem" parallels the "measurement problem" in quantum mechanics, but for the wrong reasons. The two parallel each other because both are pseudoproblems which presume the existence of some sort of reality independent of all possible observation even in principle. The Kantian mind-body problem calls this reality the "noumenon," while certain interpretations of quantum mechanics view it as made up of unobservable "probability waves." In both cases, there is an explanatory gap of how the noumenon is transformed into the phenomenon upon observation/measurement. But both are pseudoproblems because there is no reason to presume this unobservable nature actually even exists. Read Carlo Rovelli's book *Helgoland: Making Sense of the Quantum Revolution* and Francois-Igor Pris' book *Contextual Realism and Quantum Mechanics.*
@@amihart9269 this is a great take
@@amihart9269 I think of reality as everything that exists that is subject to the laws of physics. Wether I’m there to observe it or not it’s still subject to physics. I get frustrated with pseudo realities when people become invested in the potential of existence over the thought challenge they are. I’m not a great philosopher & probably won’t be until I’m well into my old age lol. That sounds like a good time to ponder the extents of reality in make believe scenario expressions of existence more deeply. Right now I’m thinking about how reality is working & where we as societies/cultures are failing to achieve something future people will thrive from. Things like religion, eliminating people types from existing as equal people, it weakens the gene pool and variation that has been the source of our evolution and advancements, and potentially could lead to the extinction of the species if allowed to continue unchecked. Never mind the ideas that we stem from two extreme bottleneck events in the narrative and yet do not show the incestual effects in our genetic codes, should be enough for us to establish laws based on human rights instead of religion. Sorry for rambling lol
What a wonderful collection of perspectives. Inside out and outside in seems to be the two viewpoints, science and spirituality.
Insightful perspectives! The mystery of consciousness continues to intrigue. While its illusory aspects are compelling, our vivid subjective experience remains. More interdisciplinary research can shed further light. A thoughtful discussion!
My buddies and I had a conversation about “consciousness” once. while we were tripping acid in high school. But we had no idea what consciousness was at the time. What a remarkable night it was…
Have you come down yet ??? 🙂
"Mmmmmmmkay" - Mr. Mackey
@@michaeldillon3113 mostly.. 😏
You experienced it
No one knows what consciousness is but those vibrating high can feel it. Interestingly, no one knows God too
I love the diversity of thinkers collected here! So many delightful angles!
Thank you for watching, we're so glad you enjoyed this episode!
Why does that matter who cares
@@danielkerr4100Why does that offend you?
"No one knows what it means, but it's provocative... It gets the people going"
- W.F. PhD
My humps, my humps, my humps. My favorite beat for conscious strippers
You know a program is good when you watch the whole thing and only realize 40+ minutes have passed after the fact.
Grade A content as always!
Thanks
40:00 is EXACTLY what i experienced on my DMT breakthrough. My consciousness returned to the source. A pool of all consciousness. A pool of consciousness, white warm light and infinite love. I get goosebumps all over.. What happens after i have no clue. But this part is , it just is
me too for me it's go back to where we came from
Look up the Gateway Project.
@@Bradleyey seen it bro
@@siwaphol7323 yea man. The source
You can see it without DMT.
Consciousness is the only thing we can be certain about regardless of the external stuff (matter) being real or not.
I guarantee that all it takes is an encounter between two material entities (e.g., a baseball bat and an occiput) and all certainty about consciousness evaporates.
@@MaciejCzub becoming unconscious doesn't mean its still not there just temporarily turned off due to a knock out
@@starc. I don't see the difference between disabling and absent. The fact that after waking up, we have the sensation of returning to the same consciousness is only the result of memory access. In people who have a damaged memory after such an event, they also have a disturbed sense of identity.
@@MaciejCzub did we ever leave just because the lights get turned off? Dreaming throws a wrench into that logic implying a continuation. One can be consciously aware, subconsciously aware or they can be unconsciously aware such as when sleeping a loud noise wakes them from an unconscious state. Its like if the software on the hardware of a computer crashes and stops working blue screen or black screen of nothing yet the hardware the computer the process is still running and recovers
Not really. If everything external to you can be fake, how can you truly know that your selfhood isn't? This is the problem Rene Descartes ran into. What is stopping an evil deceiver, who is capable of faking everything else, from tricking you into believing you have consciousness and free-will as some sort of sick cosmic prank?
GRAN TEMA. AÚN SIN DESCIFRAR. Gracias por compartir y Felicitaciones por su trabajo
I am 17 years old and i was trying to know myself because from few years i stopped thinking and everything was happening automatically i was just doing it and few days ago i start learning myself... Thank you for the video.. ❤
what a gift you found! Enjoy your new perspective. And remember to remember this point of view, because your body will take over from time to time. But you can return easier with practice.
You are becoming an adult🤝
Basically im from a country where most peoples didn't even know about these things....like about cosmos...consciousness... I mean they don't have deep thought everyone's life is living them
@@mike7755 thnx Mike
Khud ko janna hi zindagi ka maksad hai
Swami Sarvapriyanandha didn't even scratch the surface. I was waiting for him to say all of these guys are talking about the mind, they haven't even touched on the topic of consciousness 😅 they probably got less time with him or maybe he didn't want to. But beautiful episode 👌🏽👌🏽
Fascinating exploration of consciousness. Very well done. ✨
The first guest doesn't understand the difference between experience - objects, including subtle objects - and awareness, or that which perceives experience. It is an important distinction.
The problem with consciousness isnt that we cannot "figure it out" Its that we wont (most of us) be satisfied with the answers we find, and look for more.
This is such an interesting take that I agree with. I think part of that is because of the evolution of humans. If we find out exactly what consciousness is, what does that mean for our purpose? What does that mean for our drive for survival? It’s uncomfortable to think about reducing our experiences to a simple answer. Consciousness IS subjectivity. We would be reducing subjectivity to objectivity. Which isn’t entirely true as the answer would have been discovered through subjective consciousness. Which is why a Nietzsche didn’t believe in wasting time with discussions like these. There is no such thing as objectivity so it is not our place to even try.
Would be great to continue with this topic exploring more about the state of consciousness during general anesthesia (briefly mentioned on this video) and the use of psychedelics. Great video hope to see more like this!
Agreed. I've had a few experiences (allegedly, lol) under GA. And lots of experience with psychedelics. Both topics are very intriguing to me. 👍
There's a Star Talk episode about that
All that is simply put is introducing drugs into your brain to alter your consciousness.
@@calabrais
Which Star Trek generation, and what's the title?
I recommend VICE for exploring the drug side of this topic. There are several fascinating videos about people's experience before, during, and after these experiences
Thank you. Watching this opened more doors to new questions. And I'm ok with that. Thanks again
excellent presentation. Great job by the interviewer on a complex subject.
The drop on the ocean analogy was terrifyingly beautiful
Consciousness and the universe is under no obligation to make sense to us but wow it is truly a gift and privilege to be able to experience and explore it the best we possibly can! Love this documentary, very heartfelt and inspiring. Best wishes to everyone out there!
"Consciousness and the universe is under no obligation to make sense to us" -I love this sentiment so much, as it removes the primacy of the tiny slice of everything that is human experience from these larger questions. Perhaps it is the limited consideration of these concepts from our unique human experience that holds us back from comprehending these things that are inarguably greater forces than ourselves... ❤
That depends on your perspective. For some it may be a gift, but for others it's a curse. Also don't think the universe is some separate entity from us. We are the universe experiencing itself.
@@EgoChipMuch much more important than us. We barely understand this universe from our perspective and your assumption is based from the only viewpoint You or all of us can discern. We don t really understand that whole lot we think we do.
@@Zero4Infinitives But what else is there other than our subjective consciousness?
I feel like when most people say "X is under no obligation to make sense," it is always just a license to then say the most nonsensical things possible, justifying woo and mysticism specifically under the guise that it's justified because it makes no sense, so it must be real because reality makes no sense. People do this with consciousness, the divine, quantum mechanics, etc. I think we _should_ actually attempt to make sense of the universe and reject this kind of thinking as detrimental.
Thank you Alison and thank you to your client and the whole beautiful bridge ❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing this information!
This video, and the people in it, are at the highest possible level. Well done.
Disagreed, there's a few fubdamental epistemic issues they don't touch, and even embrace as virtues. Starting at the writers.
…fubdamental…starting WITH the writers…
This video is one of the worst actually 😅, when it’s compared to the various videos about consciousness, a very complex topic with various intelligent scientists talking about it. Although as a video on its own without any comparison it seems good 👍😁
Let’s see… So far I have 56 thumbs up… let’s see how many you get.
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Yes, please more of this, the different views, the different approaches. It helps to shape our own individuals ideas and maybe more...
Great host, awesome and interesting video! Thank you to everyone involved in making and sharing this content 🖖
we need more of this. i love it. well done.
Why do people fear this notion that consciousness is bio-chemical process that eventually can be replicated. The idea that if this were to be true , it would remove purpose and the notion of purpose is just an illusion that life comes up with, why would that be a bad thing? Just because it turns out there’s no grand narrative that was set aside for you doesent mean it’s meaningless.
Idealist here. I see bio-chemical processes as a result of consciousness.
@@Null_Simplex well there’s no issue there right nobody has a an issue of consciousness is the origin of all these other things (were it to be prove ) however when the opposite is considered and were it also to be proven then we “lose” something. Why?
The purpose of life is to experience Existence.
It's ridiculously false. Brains, chemicals, and everything conceivable are ideas. There are no physical objects. The idea that consciousness is physical is as wrong as wrong can get.
@@starc. does life have a purpose? Or do you want or need a purpose to make it “worth it”
This was really well put together. Great job Kmele and the whoe team!
1. There is no "explanatory gap." Reality is just contextual, depending on your context, point of view, you can perceive it differently, and perceive different things. The first guy just dislikes the fact that viewing the neural structure of his own brain from his context is different than viewing that same brain through some other context, such as neural imaging. There is no "gap" here, just someone disliking how reality works.
2. The second religious guy argues "consciousness is fundamental" then waffles on about irrelevant things regarding raw sensual experience. Consciousness is a complex notion involving cognition, minds, subjectivity, the self, etc. It is not merely raw sensual experience but is a more complex conception derived from raw sensual experience. Yes, raw sensual experience, what I would just call reality as such, is self-evident, but that does not mean everything derived from it is self-evident. We both agree we live on a spinning ball orbiting a star, but that does not mean this is some sort of self-evident innate knowledge. It is knowledge derived from our experience. If you deny all concepts derivative of our experience, you also have to deny the self, minds, cognition, thought, "consciousness."
3. Penrose is right that the "hard problem" parallels the "measurement problem" in quantum mechanics, but for the wrong reasons. The two parallel each other because both are pseudoproblems which presume the existence of some sort of reality independent of all possible observation even in principle. The Kantian mind-body problem calls this reality the "noumenon," while certain interpretations of quantum mechanics view it as made up of unobservable "probability waves." In both cases, there is an explanatory gap of how the noumenon is transformed into the phenomenon upon observation/measurement. But both are pseudoproblems because there is no reason to presume this unobservable nature actually even exists. Read Carlo Rovelli's book Helgoland: Making Sense of the Quantum Revolution and Francois-Igor Pris' book Contextual Realism and Quantum Mechanics.
Thank you for your time, your attention, and your kind comment, Randy! We appreciate you!
@@amihart9269 shut your yapper
@@amihart9269u might as well write a book with that long winded comment
Thx a lot for that documentary. Others have already put it in better words. It is really helpful. My biggest respect, how you managed to get this huge topic in order. I am trying to sort it out since a couple of months and so many people mislead you. This documentary is a very good orientation to start thinking. The term „conscious awakening“ is widely used. After this video, I would rather talk about „conscious growth“ Consciousness is obviously already there, but at what point? Right after conception? After a couple of weeks? Or after birth? How can we make consciousness „bigger“? Is it possible? Is it necessary? If I compare these questions to, what we knew about sports a 100 years ago, I believe, if we understand, how to extend our minds, as much as we improved our physical health, this will have major impact on humanity.
Thank you ! Well done insight broadening doc ! HPL to ALL !
Thought provoking! Very, very enjoyable. I wish there was a chapter two but it hasn't been written yet!
If chapter two was actually supported by a scientific instituion, yeah. This is glorified paeudoscience taling advantage of gaps in our knowledge, and atuffing it with vague terms like "spirituality".
There are epistemic positions these guys don't even deign to touch.
This was sooo wonderful. Thoughtful, curious, open, exploratory. And the host was perfect. The world needs more of this. Thank you.
Your kindness is appreciated, Andy! Thank you for being here with us!
You *really* don't want mankind to fully understand this.
It's the one thing that keeps the A in AI... If man figures this out, they'll figure out how to incorporate it into computing, and then you have HAL.
Keep playing with the fire. We're not supposed to understand certain things. There is decent reason for that.
This was a profoundly enlightening video. This series is fantastic. Thank you!
This was a beautiful and open-minded exploration of consciousness. Thank you!
Too open, one might argue. So open your brain might fall out.
It's ok to have standards of evidence.
I spoke to a neurologist who said 40% of the time, they are unsure about unusual symptoms patients present with and they are unable to make a definite diagnosis.
The energy/electricity in our body and what it channels to help us form perceptions is very much a mystery.
As someone who has worked in hospice care, there are definitely things that have occured that cannot be explained and have been witnessed by several people that defy anything that we can figure out with logic.
Please share some stories.
@@void________ my previous response was removed for some reason. I guess we're not allowed to talk about it? 🤔
@@coolbreeze5683 oh no! Okay.
@@coolbreeze5683 Spooky that it was removed.👀
@@void________ I'll write a shorter version and will see if it's removed again.
A doctor I worked with in hospice visited a patient who was actively passing away. While they were talking, the patient suddenly stared across the room, said a woman's name and told him to slice the lemons. He held her hand for a couple of minutes and left.
She passed a few days later and I told the doctor about it. He mentioned that she said his grandma's name. He didn't remember too much about his grandma because she passed when he was still a kid. He talked to his parents about what the patient said and they confirmed that his grandma used to give him lemon slices when he was a toddler and they'd laugh when he made sour faces.
The doctor was unphased by this and just said "strange things happen here..."
I think consciousness is the avoidance of pain linked to the survival drive. To me it is the reigning quality of “isness.”
Consciousness has nothing to do with avoidance. It's about being aware and accepting.
Hello avoidance of pain. Are you avoiding pain right now?
@@BrooksGomes the blind leading the blind
By far one of the best descriptions of awareness or consciousness I have heard. "Who am I" is a state of qualia.
Nonsense. Your ordinary self may be qualia, but you need to look deeper.
I really enjoyed this video. The multiple perspectives were very interesting.
Emergent property.
And, we are not a singular being. Our brain is a compromise and consolidation of many plexi into one entity. For anyone that had a kid, you can literally observe their brain consolidating from many to one, as they can so quickly switch from screaming like a banshee to being completely content and calm -- this later becomes more difficult, as our brain consolidates. We are more than one inside.
My main question is, who created all of these?
Being that I love Swami Sarvapriyananda. I must follow you. Thank you for spreading self awareness and its importance not only in Life most of all, but also society.
thank you so much for this !!
Amazing video! Great opinions, from so many different "experts" on the subject, as ive constantly contemplated these same deep questions without any direction, its nice to finally see others trying to point it somewhere. Unfortunately it may be something we can only truly answer once we die, but then we are dead.. or is death itself merely a human concept for the unknown? Really fascinating and enlightening indeed.
Yep, that rock that just hit you never happened. Or and you aren’t here either. Oh my, I think I have dissa………..
1. There is no "explanatory gap." Reality is just contextual, depending on your context, point of view, you can perceive it differently, and perceive different things. The first guy just dislikes the fact that viewing the neural structure of his own brain from his context is different than viewing that same brain through some other context, such as neural imaging. There is no "gap" here, just someone disliking how reality works.
2. The second religious guy argues "consciousness is fundamental" then waffles on about irrelevant things regarding raw sensual experience. Consciousness is a complex notion involving cognition, minds, subjectivity, the self, etc. It is not merely raw sensual experience but is a more complex conception derived from raw sensual experience. Yes, raw sensual experience, what I would just call *reality as such,* is self-evident, but that does not mean everything derived from it is self-evident. We both agree we live on a spinning ball orbiting a star, but that does not mean this is some sort of self-evident innate knowledge. It is knowledge derived from our experience. If you deny all concepts derivative of our experience, you also have to deny the self, minds, cognition, thought, "consciousness."
3. Penrose is right that the "hard problem" parallels the "measurement problem" in quantum mechanics, but for the wrong reasons. The two parallel each other because both are pseudoproblems which presume the existence of some sort of reality independent of all possible observation even in principle. The Kantian mind-body problem calls this reality the "noumenon," while certain interpretations of quantum mechanics view it as made up of unobservable "probability waves." In both cases, there is an explanatory gap of how the noumenon is transformed into the phenomenon upon observation/measurement. But both are pseudoproblems because there is no reason to presume this unobservable nature actually even exists. Read Carlo Rovelli's book *Helgoland: Making Sense of the Quantum Revolution* and Francois-Igor Pris' book *Contextual Realism and Quantum Mechanics.*
@@amihart9269 stick to Vtubing and getting lonely simps to fund ur life... bot
@@amihart9269Are you saying that, when you throw the dice into the air, the probability of any of all states being possible, doesn't exist?
@@xelasomar4614 in what meaningful way could possibilities that have yet to occur actually be said to exist?
I’m blown away by the incredibly thoughtful questions posed by Kmele. Journalists take note 🩵
One of the best on here! Thanks so much for this!
Thank you! You're so appreciated!
40:00 Listening to the metaphor of the drop of water returning to the ocean immediately put in my mind the Harry Belafonte song "Turn the World Around". It massively changed the meaning for me.
Great video with great interviews. All the guests were offering a fresh and useful perspective to the matter. Well done Kmele Foster
I love this kind of documentary where the host speaks with several people about their perspective on a certain subject, like in 'Story of God with Morgan Freeman.' Good work, Kmele Foster. it's my first time seeing your work, and I'm already a fan.
A great curation. Wish you could have interviewed David Chalmer too and may be Prof. Arindam Chakraborty.
An absolutely beautiful and titillating documentary. I’ll be thinking about this for a long while
This is Brilliant. Great Host. Most inspiring. I want more of this :)
Reid's closing remarks were excellent. Other thinkers have said that we (humanity) are the universe perceiving, understanding itself. At time of writing, to our knowledge, we are the only such perceiving, understanding entities in the universe. That, alone, is more than enough reason to probe the depths of "thought," "consciousness," however deep they may go.
🙏🏻Thank-you
I've had a similar thought before, when contemplating "what it all means". I occasionally arrive at the conclusion that there is no external, objective meaning being imposed on me or my life...but rather that my life, my thoughts - bring meaning to the void.
And sometimes, that is a powerful and comforting thought (sometimes, lol)
By universe, I reckon you mean this planet - earth. We are unique in this earth because we don’t originate here, we are not the from this earth. This is not some conspiracy theory from History channel. We are the only specie that has so many physical problems compared to other living things here it seems we are not made or evolved for this planet. We can even get skin cancer from too much sunlight. The body is just a shell. Consciousness is the soul within the body. The soul does not reside in any physical part of the body. The soul is in another dimension. There are different dimensions in this whole universe. Once the body is dead, the soul will return to its dimension and The Source - which some people called God. We cannot explain consciousness or soul because it is beyond us now.
@craven5328 "comforting thought"
"Comforting"
That indicates the actual axiological root. Whatever effects _affect_
'Thoughts' only subserve such, as observed by Hume re: 'reason is and only ever can be, enslaved to passion'
Valence = value.
@@AnalyticalSentient I'm familiar with Hume's quote, but I'll admit I'm not quite following the entirety of your post. Would you be able to elaborate?
Great vid with different perspectives of conciousness. Really loved the words from Reid Hoffman. Seems like he really knows how to think about life.
A very gd video❤It really helps in knowing yourself. Knowing yourself is very important.If you know yourself then you can live life without conflict.thanks
I don't claim to know consciousness but I have a belief system that helps me understand myself and others better.
All creatures, especially humans, have three parts.
1. The Mind - You
2. The Body - "The Child" I call it body addiction.
3. The World You Directly Affect (Verb)
The Mind is you. The you who makes decisions. The voice you hear in your head when reading a book.
The Body is a little more complex to explain. I have come to the conclusion that this is the part of you that holds core aspects of you that The Mind pulls from to make a choice. A cheesy and dumb as this sounds, Think the Pixar Movie Inside Out. The core events in your life that make a fundamental change in you (the first award you ever won. The trauma of child abuse. First home run and so on.) These create "strings" that your body pulls on to make a decision (Example: you were in a car accident at a yound age. 30 years later you have anxiety when driving a car. the string is the car accident.) I call this aspect "The Body Addiction" because this is also the part of you that keeps you from doing things you NEED to do. It's that voice you hear that is the opposite of what you want. "I need to do the dishes" *Meh, I'll do it later*. Your body gets addicted to it's day to day that it becomes set in it's ways. This can be broken but it takes great understanding to do.
The World you directly Affect is just that. Every tiny little mark you make in the world during your time here. The memory you leave in others. The matterials you leave, the things you change. This is the ONLY part of you that is "Forever" in it's own way.
This concept I have allows me to see a situation and observe it's causality. It allows me to see why things happen the way they do. Why people do things the way they do. It's not perfect but I am one man and only practice this on myself. You can force people to know (That is what I have done with this comment) but can not force someone to understand.
I 100% believe this feeling I feel with this concept is the same feeling "Born again christians" or other religious people have felt when "Finding God"
I am an atheist. I find greatness in knowing this is a feeling that if learned and understood could be taught and learned. The more you see the more it seems like humanity as a great ocean smashing aganst the shore mindlessly. Imagine if Humans could come together and direct that flow.
Please do read:
Pancha kosha viveka
Saankya: Particularly the philosophy of prakruthi and PuRusha
"Most of what we are is non physical, though, our lowest form is physical. All life on our planet has the lowest form, the Body. Our Body is an Animal and the other type of Body on our planet is a Plant. Bodies are bound absolutely to Natural Law, which is the lowest form of true Law. Natural Law is a localised form of Law and is derived from the Laws of Nature. Natural Law is the finite and specific foundational control structure ordering the actions and interactions of species, members of species, and the material sources of a planet.
The lowest non physical form of what we are is the Mind, which is a Process. There are other forms of life on our planet that have both a Body and a Mind, however, so far as we currently know, there are no Plants and only some Animals that have a Body and a Mind. The lowest forms of Mind, Instinct and Emotion, are predominantly bound to Natural Law. The next higher form of Mind is Intellect which is bound predominantly to the Laws of Nature. Intuition, the highest form of Mind, can be bound or not to both Natural Law and the Laws of Nature separately or together, or to higher forms of Law altogether. Intuition is the truest guide for our Selves.
The next non physical form of what we are is the Self, which is an Awareness. There are relatively few other forms of life on our planet that have a Self. The Self is not bound to any form of Law other than One's Own Law. It is the only form of Law that cannot be violated.
The foundation of what we are is the highest non physical form of what we are. The highest form of what we are is the Being, which is an Existence. The Being is not bound to any form of Law originating within Existence. The Being is bound absolutely to The Law.
Existence, and the Laws of Nature which are the finite and specific foundational control structure ordering the actions and interactions of all elements within Existence, cannot Be without The Law being The Law.
So, what is The Law?
In a word, The Law is options.
Definition
option: a thing that is or may be chosen.
The word 'option' does convey the idea of The Law in its most basic sense but does not clarify all of what The Law is.
Free Will does describe how our species experiences The Law but does not convey all of what The Law is.
In clarifying what The Law is;
The capitalised form of the word 'The' indicates the following noun is a specific thing.
Law is the finite and specific foundational control structure ordering the actions and interactions of all elements subordinate.
Together, the words 'The' and 'Law' (in that exact order,) is a proper noun indicating;
the singular form of Law that all other forms of Law and all other Laws are founded upon,
the singular foundation upon which Existence is founded,
the singular foundation upon which Non Existence is founded,
the singular foundation connecting Existence to Non Existence,
the concept of options, and
Free Will.
However one thinks, believes, guesses, hopes, or "knows", whether by a Big Bang, a creation story, a computer program, an expansion of consciousness, or whatever means by which Existence could have come to Be, the option for Existence to not Be also exists. Existence and Non Existence, the original options connected by the very concept of options, connected by The Law. Outside of space and before time. Extra-Existential.
As we experience The Law in our Being,
The Law is Free Will.
The First Protector of The Law is Freely Given Consent.
The First Violation of The Law is Theft of Consent."
- Goho-tekina Otoko
An Atheist is simply God playing Hide and Seek with Itself.
@@larscincaid6348 lol. Ok.
@@larscincaid6348 Please elaborate cuz I wanna know what ur getting at
Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for making this. Couldn’t love Reid Hoffman’s closing sentiments more. ❤
YaHU'aH the 4|For power WORDs = tetYHUHgrammarten, in the shortest definition is; SOVEREIGN ETERNAL SUPREME IMMORTAL POTENTATE, and via sonic implosion creates light 🔯, the Star TetYHUHhedron 🔯, YaHs sigNATURE aka sign in nature.. his glory the lilly 🌷
Note sigNATURE of YaH🔯👆
In Geometry 🔯⚛️
2 Esdras 5:24
“And of all lands of the whole world thou hast chosen thee one pit: and of all the flowers thereof, one Lillie🔯.”
MatithYahu 6:28-29 Gift of YaHU'aH🔯
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
As in the many flowers of the field, the Lilly, Iris, tulip and mulberry, peppers, and many more. All display, Father's Great sigNATURE🔯, in flower form.
Psalms 91:4
He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: YaHU'aHs🔯TRUTH shall be thy shield and buckler. As King David did, {rather ∆au∆}, placed YaHs sign, on his shield🔯, buckler🔯, & breastplate🔯
Ayob 38:2 words with knowledge
As with all beautiful words spoKIN, even eternity, TRUTH, Harmony, Love, and Joy, so each Mandelbrot forms🔯around this sigNATURE🔯 cymatic tone. And no matter how many times, each word is written or spoken, the cymatic image of each, tho unique, still remain in the same form🔯. See Dr. Emoto Masuro & Prof. Luc Montagnier.
Ayob 38:22
“Hast thou entered into the treasures of the SNOW ❄️? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail❄️? As the tears, (RAIN}, of the heavenly hosts fall, through the cold & snowflakes ❄️ are formed, in accordance to their praises, HalleluYah 🔯💜 Yashayahu 55:10-11
Genesis 2:7
And YaHU'aH AllahAYnu formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life🔯......YaH🔯 SPEAKS; EL yoU Cee, EL oM into MoLeCule's, & formation of seMaN! WE Swim to the womb, as Atoms ⚛️ form as 2 SowEL's collide, into DNA 🧬 , by which all cells are made & multiply! Having united, 2 married in2, 1 new sowel, for the making of a zygote, new NaMes, in human form. And the cymatic heartbeat of a FetUS🔯639 hertz, another sown Eloheim, 2 be born, as 1, a marriage & unbreakable bond!
Marriage = baby🍼! YeremiYahu 1:5
As in the Ancient Covenant Elders Yahu∆ah, which are called by YaH🔯's Great name. Yahu∆ah = YaHU'aHs🔯,🔺 ∆oor, of IMMORTALITY. The π🔯mi∆!
Sonic implosion creates the star tetYAHedron🔯 when speaKING: YaHUaHs Great NAME.
In all the above, what do we see? Fathers sigNATURE🔯 is how everything is KINnected 💜, tested, known & proven!
Go Look, know & see!
Romans 1:
18 For the wrath of YaHU'aH🔯⚛️ is revealed from heaven against all unYaHliness and unrighteousness of men, WHO HOLD THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
19 Because that which may be known of YaHUaH is manifest in them, {Molecules & Atoms⚛️}; for YaHUaH🔯 hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power⚛️ and YaHhead🔯; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew YaHU'aH, they glorified him not as AllahAYnu, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the GLORY 🔯 of the uncorruptible YaHU'aH🔯 into an image made like to corruptible man (J.C.✝️), and to birds, ( 🦅,eagle) and four footed beasts, ( 🐂bull), and creeping things, ( 🐍snake- don't tread on me).
Really well done. One aspect of consciousness that's seems obvious to me is the connection between "things". And despite its name, the subconscious seems very much a part of consciousness.
I love this video so much. I'm currently back in school studying data science because of the fascination I have with how AI can replicate us. I also loveeee philosophy. Well done 👏🏻
Understanding consciousness is not just important to those who study what goes on inside the body. It is very important when we consider far flung things like space travel, and how we communicate. Because how do you order the unity we know of as consciousness within the confines of the body? If you can figure out how that is done, then you can maybe entangle the place you want to travel to within it, so that you don't have to leave physically in order to consciously experience a new star? We could hear each other think. Quiet lives of desperation wouldn't go unnoticed.
Near as I can figure, though, the universe isn't made of consciousness. It's made of math, or something so much like math that the universe behaves according to the rules of math. For some reason people seem to think that idea of reality is incompatible with their idea of spirit. That shouldn't be a problem. People want to see a set of limitations because they are thinking in terms of fields over a specific location.
The thing is that location, for consciousness, is numerically whatever zero over zero represents. It's part of a system of all of the other numbers which becomes specific for consciousness when you pare it down so far that you are dealing with zero over zero. You would think that one perspective's zero over zero is the same as any other perspective's zero over zero, but that is not the case.
I'm not a huge mathematician, but I am curious enough to have read what some serious mathematicians have said about what zero can be. You get into to this right away, when you ask yourself whether zero over zero is undefined, like any other number divided by zero would be. You wonder if the answer ought to be one? It might be, but that might only ever be true in retrospect. It's a mind bender actually. You can certainly see where a theory of the nature of emotion could arise from the difference between the two, how so many emotions take you from their state to your normal, back and forth, sometimes violently.
Because we are part of our reality, Its like like been Micky mouse in a film. It is impossible to understand it because we cannot step outside to view it. We are forever in part of the film.
This has to be most well rounded investigative video on consciousness. I loved it!
How is it well-rounded? Most the screen time is dedicated to idealists and dualists who take the "hard problem" seriously. The video has a bias in favor of Chalmers' dualism and does not bother to do a serious investigation to talk to antimetaphysical philosophers who reject that there is a hard problem at all. Even the few "physicalists" he talked to are really just _promissory materialists,_ people who basically agree with the dualist premises that there is a division between mind and body, but vaguely gesture that "physics will solve it some day (somehow)." It's incredibly ideologically biased towards a single dogmatic viewpoint of Chalmers' dualism.
This is such a kind thing to say, we're so grateful! Thanks for spending time with us!
@@amihart9269Thank you. I'm gnashing my teeth at people praising this as a balanced and profound piece.
It's full of epistemic issues - not only loaded language and misrepresentations.
I like how no one answered honestly when asked what is consciousness. They couldn’t just say I don’t know, they had to throw a wall of sentences and even confused themselves at times.
I really enjoyed this program.
I liked the dice analogy for the collapse of the quantum wave function.
Consciousness:
°-Awareness
°○-Growth of Awareness
○●-Self Awareness
♡-Love and Understanding
◇-Wisdom
☆-Universal exchange
∞-Unity
o-Octive of singularity
We are a density of conscious experience in an evolution of development, with every mind body spirit complexes at a varying rate of development, but the process is always and ever the same. We are one having the experience of being separate.
Universal Laws & Distortions:
One/Infinity
Intelligent infinity
1st:Freewill
2nd:Love
3rd:Light
Confusion
You're good at deepities
It’s actually the only thing we can never doubt. We are having a conscious experience. To me consciousness is information. What you are looking for is already where you are looking from.
Yes. The only thing that we can say with certainty is an experience is being had. Anything else is just guesswork
"Consciousness is information" or is it what is evaluating/sensing that information? Yes, without information there may be no consciousness, but is the information consciousness or what is activating consciousness?
@@xelasomar4614. Two sides of the same coin. Words are not sufficient to explain. Feeling it is the only way.
Wrong. Consciousness is _a posteriori,_ not _a priori._ You are not born with innate knowledge that you are a conscious being capable of cognition and self-reflection. These precisely are things you derive from thinking about your experiences.
@@QuantumPolyhedron wrong. not all knowledge is derived from thought. Some knowledge and arguably the purest form of knowledge comes from direct experience. You are born having a direct experience are you not?
Great video, everything put forth by the guests is consistent to the Hermetic Teachings of the Kybalion (I highly recommend it to everyone here, it is heavy reading, but you can also get the audio book that is 3.5 hours long)
I did my undergrad dissertation on this. Its not surprising we're still having the same debates. I wonder if we'll ever be able to fully understand consciousness, or if it's just something we can never find an explanation for which resonates with our intuition
The connection has always been God. He put us in our mother’s wombs. It’s simple and all in the Bible. Repent of sin and turn to the Lord Jesus; the living God came to us and died on a cross because He ever so loves us, and forgave those who turn to Him so that we may enter an eternal presence with Him. He defeated death three days later, and is coming back soon. Our conscious is not made from the material, because I have yet to see a computer come just to be in the wild. It takes an intelligence to make intelligence, otherwise if we came to be out of no particular order or design how can we trust our conscious but to know it to just be? Why do we conform then with rules and have morals? Because our eternal God made us, and has told us in Genesis 1:26 has said “Let us make man in our image.” ē'nu the plural for 3 or more showing our Triune God has made us in His image, and He is a loving and good God. Which is why through God we are able to exist and exist with each other. Our God is perfect, which is why we can even trust our own conscious, and why we can trust for the existence of morals. Morals are not subjective, because then how can we judge Hitler if it was in his belief of his morals that killing millions was justified? There must be a moral standard of perfection, and there is, God, and we know morals because we are made in His image. Why we don’t all object to those is due to knowing good and evil, and knowing sin that is death. But we can’t be perfect because of sin, so we needed one that could be, and that is when the Father sent the His only begotten Son to die on that cross. No one is perfect but God; no one is righteous, no not one but Jesus Christ, fully man and fully God. But He so loved the world that He gave His Son that no one may perish who comes to Him. And for those who may think well who created God? Understand that God is beyond creation, He is eternal, and while the universe had a beginning, and time, space and matter had to begin at the same point, then if God is the one that created beginnings He is beyond a beginning. Meaning He has no creator He is the Creator. But when we die our consciousness will return back to an eternity, but whether it is with God or in the absence of Him (A.K.A Hell) it is up to our choices and freewill God has given us in order to truly have choices and ability to love.
As always Swami sarvapriyananda spoke very well. Eastern religion like Vedanta treats mind and conciousness differently but modern science takes mind to be conciousness. Thats why hard problem of conciousness will remain a hard problem.
No proof for any religion
@@threestars2164 Advaita vedanta, Budhism are religion but it asks "Who am I". It is vastly different from faith based religion. Religion is a very generic word
@@threestars2164 this is not about "religion"
For me.., consciousness is not an illusion, but reality is... What a good combination of experts, full of wisdom, and a good host..❤
The connection has always been God. He put us in our mother’s wombs. It’s simple and all in the Bible. Repent of sin and turn to the Lord Jesus; the living God came to us and died on a cross because He ever so loves us, and forgave those who turn to Him so that we may enter an eternal presence with Him. He defeated death three days later, and is coming back soon. Our conscious is not made from the material, because I have yet to see a computer come just to be in the wild. It takes an intelligence to make intelligence, otherwise if we came to be out of no particular order or design how can we trust our conscious but to know it to just be? Why do we conform then with rules and have morals? Because our eternal God made us, and has told us in Genesis 1:26 has said “Let us make man in our image.” ē'nu the plural for 3 or more showing our Triune God has made us in His image, and He is a loving and good God. Which is why through God we are able to exist and exist with each other. Our God is perfect, which is why we can even trust our own conscious, and why we can trust for the existence of morals. Morals are not subjective, because then how can we judge Hitler if it was in his belief of his morals that killing millions was justified? There must be a moral standard of perfection, and there is, God, and we know morals because we are made in His image. Why we don’t all object to those is due to knowing good and evil, and knowing sin that is death. But we can’t be perfect because of sin, so we needed one that could be, and that is when the Father sent the His only begotten Son to die on that cross. No one is perfect but God; no one is righteous, no not one but Jesus Christ, fully man and fully God. But He so loved the world that He gave His Son that no one may perish who comes to Him. And for those who may think well who created God? Understand that God is beyond creation, He is eternal, and while the universe had a beginning, and time, space and matter had to begin at the same point, then if God is the one that created beginnings He is beyond a beginning. Meaning He has no creator He is the Creator. But when we die our consciousness will return back to an eternity, but whether it is with God or in the absence of Him (A.K.A Hell) it is up to our choices and freewill God has given us in order to truly have choices and ability to love.
The connection has always been God. He put us in our mother’s wombs. It’s simple and all in the Bible. Repent of sin and turn to the Lord Jesus; the living God came to us and died on a cross because He ever so loves us, and forgave those who turn to Him so that we may enter an eternal presence with Him. He defeated death three days later, and is coming back soon. Our conscious is not made from the material, because I have yet to see a computer come just to be in the wild. It takes an intelligence to make intelligence, otherwise if we came to be out of no particular order or design how can we trust our conscious but to know it to just be? Why do we conform then with rules and have morals? Because our eternal God made us, and has told us in Genesis 1:26 has said “Let us make man in our image.” ē'nu the plural for 3 or more showing our Triune God has made us in His image, and He is a loving and good God. Which is why through God we are able to exist and exist with each other. Our God is perfect, which is why we can even trust our own conscious, and why we can trust for the existence of morals. Morals are not subjective, because then how can we judge Hitler if it was in his belief of his morals that killing millions was justified? There must be a moral standard of perfection, and there is, God, and we know morals because we are made in His image. Why we don’t all object to those is due to knowing good and evil, and knowing sin that is death. But we can’t be perfect because of sin, so we needed one that could be, and that is when the Father sent the His only begotten Son to die on that cross. No one is perfect but God; no one is righteous, no not one but Jesus Christ, fully man and fully God. But He so loved the world that He gave His Son that no one may perish who comes to Him. And for those who may think well who created God? Understand that God is beyond creation, He is eternal, and while the universe had a beginning, and time, space and matter had to begin at the same point, then if God is the one that created beginnings He is beyond a beginning. Meaning He has no creator He is the Creator. But when we die our consciousness will return back to an eternity, but whether it is with God or in the absence of Him (A.K.A Hell) it is up to our choices and freewill God has given us in order to truly have choices and ability to love.
Hmmm so good
Most comments are talking about our reality being an illusion. Actually consciousness in itself being an illusion is the title of the video, which they didn’t even discuss that much. Close your eyes, don’t smell, don’t hear, if you actually can stop yourself from sensing everything or thinking (you can’t), you would understand that consciousness is an illusion. The moment you close your eyes you feel less conscious. Your brain detects external information, categorises it, uses these categories to respond to external stimuli with a: bad! Good!, in more complex beings it’s: sad bad! Angry bad! Disgusting bad! (Connected to the neurons of disgust in taste and smell in itself that evolved to make you escape what your body determines to be detrimental to you and not eat it, which is easier)…etc… One other thing is that we don’t actually think that much throughout the day, we just follow habits even in our thinking, like most other animals. That complex productive thinking only results from a very developed brain, activating neurons that are connected to each other, etc, but it only happens rarely throughout your day. Well when you think about thinking you are thinking, so you don’t realise how small is the number of times you used that complex energy spending mechanism. Basically, you’re like most of other animals, you only feel so special and conscious because of the complex integration of all external informations (which obviously is a very beneficial evolutionary trait as you can integrate all of that information simultaneously and categorise it and use it), and because of your language (without language you wouldn’t feel that much different from other animals) and of course because of your mind playing tricks on you, because of you thinking you have an internal spirit that is constantly thinking and performing mental activities, if it was the case we wouldn’t deny your claim, but it’s precisely because you rarely ever think productively in the first place that we believe you are not so « conscious » and « spiritual ». Also, it has to do with your self opinions, as this idea attacks your internal belief systems, as you were probably raised in any average society with a religious majority, and a lot of these ideas might trigger the internal neural circuits telling you: bad, thus creating cognitive dissonance, but that’s a topic for psychology
Thx for this amazing info! 🙏🏼
Thank you ❤😊
This video is so weird and interesting because it's a video about "a brain asking another brain why it's awake and that brain trying to define itself and my brain trying to understand how that brain defined itself"🧠
Why assume it is a brain thing?
@@ToriZealotThe brain is an manifestation in consciousness, like everything else that is ever experienced.
@@walking-man-uk I know ...
Consciousness is the fundamental property of the universe, without it nothing will be making sense
My philosophy mentor always said the Cogito loses its polish in translation. There is no necessary concept of an "I", of any personalized individual entity, within "Cogito Ergo Sum", but which is introduced in "I think therefore I am". This is understood as somewhat required for us to apprehend it, yet it is not likely beneficial to truly comprehending it.
What an impressive piece of television. It moved me
If you're thinking about it, it's real. If you can't imagine it, you're lacking it. If it hurts, you might have too much.
just started watching, we'll see if my opinion changes after finishing watching it.
, consciousness in simple terms means being able to observe and analyze the environment around you. make an interpretation of your environment and situation understand your relative position to the environment.
What an Amazing video, thank you for the effort on putting this out for us!
Thank you for watching!
what we think we are is an illusion, whatever we think is based on knowledge, knowledge that is derived from experience. for example people who identify themselves as artists, they can be attached to their passion and make it their identity but is that really who they are , what if they went through some different situation from very young age. But thinking is not the only faculty we have, we are also aware, not of something. Being aware is the most intimate experience we have. it is direct and not based on memory, i find awareness to be much more authentic than saying i'm what i think i'm. I'm fundamentally awareness going through experiences
You are not the body. You are not even the mind. You are the ocean of conciousness in Itself. Nothing more, nothing less. and that is everything.
Many thanks for this video, really interesting. I like it very much. Excellent job.
One of the best and though provoking videos I've seen. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for this beautiful video, lots to think about. If people are looking for a novel that grapples with consciousness, I recommend Blindsight by Peter Watts.
Great recommendation! Thank you!
Consciousness is the outward spiritual awareness of life and what we are experiencing in life. This includes our reactions physically and spiritually.
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