The Best Pre-Built Cable Management We've Seen | Origin Genesis Tear-Down

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    We're tearing down the $6600 Origin Genesis that we bought and reviewed in a previous video. Despite its problems with the CPU running 1GHz below advertised, the fans running at unbelievably loud speeds (to no gain), and small defects, Origin did an excellent job with the overall assembly and build quality of this system. The cable management is immaculate and the hard part -- the water cooling -- was done right (with some minor concerns that we discuss in this video). If they can correct their testing processes, they'll be in a strong and competitive position since they've got the hard part down. It's the simple stuff (like making sure the CPU actually works) that they need to fix.
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    00:00 - Tearing Down a $6600 Computer
    01:15 - Insane Cable Management
    02:01 - This Side Panel
    02:50 - Excellent Attention to Detail (Sometimes)
    05:12 - The Important Question for Yourself
    07:32 - About Those Fans
    09:25 - Big Complaint: Drain Valves
    11:51 - STATUS UPDATE
    12:40 - RGB Cable Wedging
    14:21 - Good Assembly Quality
    19:35 - Block Sediment & Gunk Inspection
    25:53 - Conclusion
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Komentáře • 963

  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Před rokem +416

    They nailed the hard part -- the build. We're planning to anonymously revisit Origin again in the future sometime (can't give a date range since they'll look out for it!) to see if they improve on the easy parts, like getting the CPU to work properly.
    Watch the full technical review of the Origin Genesis here: czcams.com/video/bflZYG5DWPg/video.html
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    • @Zeno-
      @Zeno- Před rokem +9

      how did they get even manage to screw up the basics so badly, then nail the build quality (except for the paint)?
      it's impressive

    • @StandTallTx
      @StandTallTx Před rokem +4

      You guys should do Digital Storm next!

    • @ronanwaring3408
      @ronanwaring3408 Před rokem +1

      Being the only one as far as I can tell who does this often I thank you and the teams hard work on shedding light on this gigantic corner of the PC world

    • @DampActionRC
      @DampActionRC Před rokem +2

      Awesome teardown and review! Now do a system from Falcon Northwest please

    • @chubbysumo2230
      @chubbysumo2230 Před rokem +1

      I have to wonder with the fans was a mistake, as the temp target was supposed to be based on the loop temp, and because that isn't available in BIOS, it defaulted to CPU temp instead, causing the odd fan ramp. maxing out the fans when the loop hits 40c sounds reasonable, as it should never really get that hot.

  • @SvensPron
    @SvensPron Před rokem +1720

    My biggest problem with pre-builds is that finding a good one arguably requires more knowledge than just building the damn thing yourself.

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Před rokem +197

      Yup. Once you know what to look for to make sure the prebuilt isn't screwed up, you know how to build it yourself.

    • @117johnpar
      @117johnpar Před rokem +47

      Very very very good point.

    • @Shendowx
      @Shendowx Před rokem +45

      Not to mention finding ones that don't have tons of bloatware😭

    • @ShermSpinner
      @ShermSpinner Před rokem +74

      Aye, pre-builts are just in a really awkward spot...
      In a perfect world, they'd be an amazing entrypoint into the wider PC world.
      To achieve that, they have literally a single job they need to nail: work properly right out of the box.
      Yet it seems that most companies fail to even meet that singular goal...
      Doesnt matter whether it's through malice or incompetence, the whole point of a prebuilt system is be be an avenue for people that lack the knowledge, will or time to build and troubleshoot their own system.
      If you cant provide that, your service offers no value and your product realistically has no right to exist.
      Sadly reality shows that cutting every corner possible in order to scam people that dont know any better with horrendous value piles of e-waste seems to be the norm...

    • @matbroomfield
      @matbroomfield Před rokem +3

      Great point Sven!

  • @Larry-Jiao
    @Larry-Jiao Před rokem +603

    Can't believe the glass panel was trying to host this video, such eager little go-getters!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +283

      Anyway, we--*squeeeeeaaak*

    • @ReVoltCR4Z3
      @ReVoltCR4Z3 Před rokem +26

      @@GamersNexusive heard mice squeek less than that for free, that squeek is more horrifying than any horror movie to date for the price it cost to hear it

    • @biblical_figure
      @biblical_figure Před rokem +1

      This is an unoriginal thought

    • @ReVoltCR4Z3
      @ReVoltCR4Z3 Před rokem +14

      @@biblical_figure might be unoriginal but its not wrong

    • @DriveSMR
      @DriveSMR Před rokem +4

      What a whiner it is tho

  • @stevenlevernier7357
    @stevenlevernier7357 Před rokem +164

    “Corsair owns Origin if you didn’t know” It’s information like this that even though it’s unnecessary for the content, helps new viewers get up to speed. I appreciate these bits of information!

    • @ThisGuyDrives
      @ThisGuyDrives Před 2 měsíci

      It's pretty wild when the Corsair brand of pre-built is actually premium compared to this Origin build.

  • @GNXperimental
    @GNXperimental Před rokem +52

    It comes with creepy closet opening sound from horror movies 😨

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +34

      We actually were talking about saving the recording for a future disappointment PC!

    • @CacklingGoblinX
      @CacklingGoblinX Před rokem +4

      I start singing Thriller in my head when I hear the squeaky door lol

    • @RedLeo-pf9yo
      @RedLeo-pf9yo Před 8 měsíci

      Sweet !!!!!

  • @CaianBenedicto
    @CaianBenedicto Před rokem +307

    That's some high-quality paint if it cuts you...

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +116

      hahaha, it's added value!

    • @ALEXANDER1318
      @ALEXANDER1318 Před rokem +51

      It's sourced from a chemical company that operates on the cutting edge of paint technology.

    • @Tifauve92
      @Tifauve92 Před rokem +10

      Sharp design, isn't it ?

    • @manoftherainshorts9075
      @manoftherainshorts9075 Před rokem +18

      It's not your PC if you didn't bleed for it.

    • @omni057
      @omni057 Před rokem +4

      Feature, not a bug... :D

  • @netmaster88
    @netmaster88 Před rokem +93

    Cutting the RGB chord and the relief after, "oh my God that was super worth doing. Holy crap." That made my day!

  • @TheJjjoj
    @TheJjjoj Před rokem +197

    Steve, that is not dye fallout in the CPU block coldplate. That is PETG or PMMA debris from not fully cleaning the components, particularly the tubing, prior to assembly. It's a common issue among less experienced loop builders. Even more experienced ones can fall into the trap if they are in a rush. Particle based dyes such as those used in opaque coolants become a sludge and then a powder when dry. Liquid dyes do not have fallout but they will break down debris already in the loop. This is particularly true if you use a coolant with ethylene glycol and to a lesser extent, propylene glycol. To be clear, in this particular instance, this is not the fault of the dye. This is the fault of the builder.

    • @Apollo-Computers
      @Apollo-Computers Před rokem +13

      Yea that's what I was thinking. I've never seen a clear dyed coolant have any fallout, only the opaque stuff. I had eks blue clear running for almost two years without maintenance. It stained blocks and tubing blue but I had nothing "fallout". There wasn't any type of debri in my blocks. It did take some elbow grease to remove the bluing but afterwards they looked like they had never been used.

    • @aaronmcneal1698
      @aaronmcneal1698 Před rokem +3

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @davemartin6452
      @davemartin6452 Před rokem +7

      I made that mistake on my first hard line build. Even though I rinsed all the tubing in distilled prior to install I was not thorough enough. Wont make that mistake again. I switched to EPDM tubing for all my personal builds now anyways. Hardline looks great but maintenance and changing out parts was too much of a time consumer for me. Now I just trim a piece of tubing to length and done.

    • @nbats5274
      @nbats5274 Před rokem +3

      Could also be left over Rad gunk. I doubt they cleaned them before putting them in the build. and even though corsair uses rebranded HWlabs rads they should still be flushed when new

    • @ckhayne2
      @ckhayne2 Před rokem +2

      Question (never built a cooling lop before) could you add a filter (something like a fuel filter on a car) to catch any sediment/debris?

  • @TomBaito
    @TomBaito Před rokem +420

    The lack of drain valve for a 6k-dollar PC is definitely upsetting. And this is also coming from a company who makes watercooling components.
    Anyways, awesome video as always, GN team! 👍

    • @silverhawkroman
      @silverhawkroman Před rokem +24

      Also using dye... I figured they would've done more thorough testing on flaking. It's probably waaaaay easier to just install LEDs with clear liquid, especially since it interacts so well with the tubing!

    • @actually5004
      @actually5004 Před rokem +4

      @@silverhawkroman Multi billion dollar automotive corporations still have problems with paint adhesion to this day, how much R&D would Origin customers have to pay to beat the problem?

    • @POVwithRC
      @POVwithRC Před rokem +17

      ​@@actually5004 Probably not much. Paint adhesion isn't a super common issue in automotive anymore. It's not the 90's at Chrysler anymore (RIP Neon)

    • @silverhawkroman
      @silverhawkroman Před rokem +4

      @@actually5004 they would have to pay less because Origin isn't using stupid dyes in their tanks which will actually net them more money since less repairs (cuz of gunk) equals less costs and more money in the long run. The actual question is, how much would they have to pay for easily placed LEDs which can be cable managed easily onto the controller?🤓

    • @chiquijr1114
      @chiquijr1114 Před rokem +1

      You can choose to add a drain valve, gamers nexus didn’t do that.

  • @Luminousplayer
    @Luminousplayer Před rokem +120

    the moment in time when searching for a good prebuilt takes longer than learning how to build your own from tutorials

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před rokem +1

      Seriously... 😆

    • @trevorveillette8415
      @trevorveillette8415 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Alexander PCs is phenomenal in quality and the prices are reasonable.
      I paid them 6.5k for a rig, alls I added was an additional storage of 2tb for 200$.
      But they give a PC part picker list link so you can compare their price to just building it yourself.
      The parts were around 5.2k value I believe.
      Sounds like a 1k upcharge right? Nope, that's with shipping AND lifetime warranty factored in.
      I swear I remember origin or digital storm wanting to charge hundreds of dollars for just a few year warranty.
      I've had my Alexander prebuilt since March this year, and it's been phenomenal. It came with a broken power button, but I can't fault that since that could just be an unfortunate shipping accident.
      Not a shill, just thought it would be good to spread word of an actually good prebuilt company.

  • @Zackipedia
    @Zackipedia Před rokem +16

    11:26 - I don't know if the "Do it right" on the bucket was intentionally faced towards the camera, but this genuinely made me spit my coffee out! Lmao.

    • @mikemoore5270
      @mikemoore5270 Před rokem +5

      It was intentional 😂

    • @bleack8701
      @bleack8701 Před rokem +4

      For sure intentional and for sure put on the bucket for the shot.

    • @mikemoore5270
      @mikemoore5270 Před rokem +1

      @@bleack8701 I think that’s their slogan 🤣

  • @n3m37h
    @n3m37h Před rokem +46

    I love the "DO IT RIGHT" on the bucket you're using to drain the loop with. PERFECTION!

    • @keithwolf6362
      @keithwolf6362 Před rokem +1

      Yea do you think he was making a statement lol

    • @n3m37h
      @n3m37h Před rokem +2

      @Keith Wolf Not sure, may have been making a suggestion about being able to easily drain your loop without putting your life at risk. I don't know, not really clear. But hey it can do 8k gaming! Did ya know that? Huh? And cool RBG! Gotta have the RGB! Did I mention RGB!!

    • @vicroc4
      @vicroc4 Před rokem +2

      I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that. Just a little subliminal messaging.

    • @Marcelis
      @Marcelis Před rokem

      @@vicroc4 same

  • @rppdfire
    @rppdfire Před rokem +56

    As an old commercial electronic tech, I can tell you there is a fine line, between tight cable management and serviceability. It takes a while to develop a great balance.

    • @tony6795
      @tony6795 Před rokem +17

      There's nothing serviceable about zip ties, y'all using them have lost your minds

    • @33gles
      @33gles Před rokem +5

      @@tony6795 Velcro ties exist. Use them.

    • @tony6795
      @tony6795 Před rokem +11

      @@33gles I already do?

    • @TheDainerss
      @TheDainerss Před rokem +7

      Velcro or nothing for me. I would rather they not cable manage over using zip ties all over the place like this.

    • @MapleMan1984
      @MapleMan1984 Před rokem +5

      @@TheDainerss It's a prebuilt, I doubt the buyer will ever service it...

  • @tobykidwell5998
    @tobykidwell5998 Před rokem +5

    I appreciate that you call out not only faults (of which there are many in all the prebuilts you review) but you also give praise immediately when you find something that was done properly, or with great care.

  • @parasgupta8411
    @parasgupta8411 Před rokem +19

    Atleast someone competent build this pc

  • @Iam_Dunn
    @Iam_Dunn Před rokem +77

    There is a great little ‘hack’ to drain the reservoir. Use a hand crank pump that is normally used to transfer fuel to fuel tanks in model airplanes. :)

    • @mikemoore5270
      @mikemoore5270 Před rokem +59

      He did it the hard way to simulate the strategy of an inexperienced end user 🤣

    • @thespacedpirate
      @thespacedpirate Před rokem +1

      They make electric ones. For those who don't want to give a waterloop a handjob.

    • @lochl2
      @lochl2 Před rokem +5

      Okay but it's a pre built pc costing 6k, so doing it the way a pre built buyer would after 2 years makes sense from a review perspective

    • @mikemoore5270
      @mikemoore5270 Před rokem +2

      @@lochl2 yes, it was a shtick.

  • @Lintary
    @Lintary Před rokem +24

    Not having a drain is such a rookie miss, I did that on my first custom loop as in I missed adding one. That I sure fixed on the second loop I made cause it was a PAIN.
    Also again shows why I prefer a clear coolant, just less chance for trouble.

  • @xycan8734
    @xycan8734 Před rokem +201

    The more I see water cooling builds and issue the more I'm happy with sticking to air cooling

    • @KenS1267
      @KenS1267 Před rokem +47

      I've built custom loops and it is a hobby all in itself. There was a time when you could get a substantial performance increase over air. Now the performance increase is so minor, particularly considering the cost of the loop, I'd say not to do it unless you just want to do it for the hobby aspect. An AIO or good air cooler is more than enough.

    • @hennermais
      @hennermais Před rokem +11

      The times of getting significantly more performance is gone with current boosting algorithms and auto overclocks. Also noise is much less a problem with todays fans.
      A GPU can become much less noisy with deshrouding and just replacing the stock fans with 120mm fans. Good cpu air coolers are mostly inaudible except when ramping up to 2000+ rpm.
      In nearly all cases, you are better off investing the money in higher tier components and tweaking some bios settings than building a custom loop.
      Custom water cooling is of course still viable for aesthetics and generally as a hobby.

    • @clutch2827
      @clutch2827 Před rokem +5

      It's all for looks. I prefer AIO's.

    • @johnnyboogalo4897
      @johnnyboogalo4897 Před rokem

      I use AIO and no issue.Most AIO come with anti leak tech now.Air cooling good too but the more newer cpus starting to get more powerful and use power which means they get hotter so need good cooler for them.

    • @kcgunesq
      @kcgunesq Před rokem +4

      IMHO, unless you are running something like an XX900k or ks, and will max it out often enough to matter, there is no reason to use water over air.

  • @Pincentral383
    @Pincentral383 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I purchased a cyberpower pc built in the hyte y60, nothing but problems out of the box. I returned it, used the time I waited to do parts reviews, used the return money to order every component I needed to build it myself, and yes it did cost a bit more money, and required my own time, but I was able to build a very competent gaming pc with only a little bit of previous experience, swapping gpus, power supplies, ram, network cards, point is, building a pc is actually way easier than it seems, and if you have the time, you should learn and do it yourself. There are loads of videos with step by step how to instructions for all levels of computer, from basic, all the way to water cooled like this computer here. GN is super informative and they are now a daily watch for me, keep up the great content

  • @DataDrifterOFC
    @DataDrifterOFC Před rokem +3

    The irony of using a bucket saying "DO IT RIGHT" while draining a loop without a valve did not escape me.

  • @slartybartfast6868
    @slartybartfast6868 Před rokem +4

    I love the way you give the companies a chance to correct errors and bad practices. This makes it less adversarial, and more cooperative.
    The big wigs don't get their hands dirty with building stuff, but they should know how it works and what are the basics of building a good system for the customer.

  • @lurick
    @lurick Před rokem +10

    The fluid buildup is definitely a concern from whatever colorant they've added.
    Beyond that though it looks very solid, great job as always GN Team!

  • @kindnuguz
    @kindnuguz Před rokem +9

    5:46 Exactly - I can't tell you how many people I built a system for and this is spot on.. It's expected that if something goes wrong, they contact you.
    So yeah I've turned many onto pre-build companies vs my self building it for them.. lol

  • @CaptToilet
    @CaptToilet Před rokem +26

    Shame Microcenter isn't more readily available for everyone. I had my last machine built there back in 2018 - picked out the parts and then paid them a small fee to put it together. Build quality is pretty good in my opinion. Cable management isn't near the quality of this Origin machine but it is still very well done, or to be more specific a lot better than what I would have done if I had put it together. I will be going back to them for my next build in June.

    • @kcgunesq
      @kcgunesq Před rokem +5

      I had them build my pc about year ago. Very happy with the service.

    • @mbvglider
      @mbvglider Před rokem +8

      You don't actually want this kind of cable management. You'd have to cut them all to service this computer.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před rokem +2

      ​@@mbvglider yeah, this cable management "looks" nice, but the instant you have to change a fan or replace a pump it becomes a disaster. You have to tear it all apart and then it, and to a prebuilt buyer it would be intimidating and or impossible.... The back of the case does not need to look perfect, that's why it's hidden behind a door.

    • @mckinleyostvig7135
      @mckinleyostvig7135 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@mbvgliderthe whole point of a prebuilt is that nobody will open the computer or swap any parts.

  • @raeshalgoul8505
    @raeshalgoul8505 Před rokem +5

    Almost pulled the trigger on one of Corsair's 4k pre-built so glad they went up on the price $300. Now going to have a build done locally best part now can get the 7950x3d.Thanks again for a great job guys.✌ 😉

  • @renzokuken2g
    @renzokuken2g Před rokem +4

    I have to redo my cables now on my build from last week, Thanks Steve!

  • @HughyB27
    @HughyB27 Před rokem +1

    The "do it right" bucket while Steve tries not to be crushed my Origins mess of a 7000D PC added to the comedic value substantially

  • @Myfamily1964
    @Myfamily1964 Před rokem

    It's awesome that you did this so gives people in what too look for !

  • @AJ_UK_LIVE
    @AJ_UK_LIVE Před rokem +13

    Amazing build quality. Those cables legit give me nightmares haha. That residue build-up is creepy though for that price..

  • @ultimatedra
    @ultimatedra Před rokem +3

    So I got a pre-built from EKWB Fluid Gaming that was on sale because it was "used" for a convention weekend and it was the best purchase I made. It had not only a drain but an extra foot of soft tube and instructions on how to drain.

  • @johnd0e25
    @johnd0e25 Před rokem

    These pre-built videos are always fun to watch

  • @hotdogsarepropaganda
    @hotdogsarepropaganda Před rokem +1

    Steve's faces during this build tear down made my moring!

  • @ChrispyNut
    @ChrispyNut Před rokem +8

    Yea, the inclusion of "likely to require [re]moving" cables within the same zip-ties as power cables ticks it down from "awesome" to "neat and tidy".

  • @BinkyTheToaster
    @BinkyTheToaster Před rokem +71

    Yeah, the zip ties kill it for me. I'm in IT, at the architect level, but I came up through the ranks starting with telephone technical support. I specialize in IP networking, and zip ties are anathema to the work in my part of the industry. Velcro cable ties, people. It spreads the retention force across a larger area, it doesn't kink the cables, it's safe for use with optical (not likely an issue for PC cable management), and it's _trivially removable and replaceable._ That last is likely the critical one; there are too many adds/moves/changes to a production environment once it goes into its operations/maintenance phase of life cycle, and zip ties mean you have to completely disassemble the bundle to either add, remove, or even properly trace a cable.

    • @jerithil
      @jerithil Před rokem +6

      Or you get lazy people who just run the cable down the outside of the zip ties then toss a new one on, a couple years later you end up with bundles with like 5 layers of zip ties.

    • @tony6795
      @tony6795 Před rokem +3

      Fook zip ties forever

    • @unishot619
      @unishot619 Před rokem +10

      i think you are just being "elitist" (for the lack of a better word). it's perfectly fine to use zip ties when tidying up cables on a home PC. sure, it's not good for the cables if you tie them up too tight but come on, just don't tie them up too tight! also, how often do people change/add components on their PCs once they're fully built anyways? i would guess not often.

    • @tony6795
      @tony6795 Před rokem +10

      @@unishot619 Using zip ties is the most smug elitist thing you can do. More importantly - it’s the most annoying thing you can do.

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 Před rokem +2

      And don't forget VP approval and coming in at midnight to do a simple change like a removal of one

  • @GuyIntrovert
    @GuyIntrovert Před rokem

    Loved how it said, "Do It Right" on the bucket as Steve was draining the loop.

  • @JeanMarcs
    @JeanMarcs Před rokem +2

    Great way to start off the morning

  • @Dan-Simms
    @Dan-Simms Před rokem +8

    Whoever built the thing sure did a fabulous job (other than no drain valve), that cable management is insanely good. It's just too bad whoever it got passed on to configure sure wasn't as meticulous.

    • @meekrab9027
      @meekrab9027 Před rokem +2

      System assembler doesn't get a say in what goes into it, drain valve is the fault of the designer.

  • @kcgunesq
    @kcgunesq Před rokem +40

    Reminder: If you live near a Microcenter, you can pick the parts, pay them $150 and they will build it for you. Though, full custom water loops would take that build price up a lot. But you'd still be at least $1,000 a head compared to this system pre-built and without any compromises on parts.

    • @Wrigglevision
      @Wrigglevision Před rokem +6

      Even not going the build route, the pricing and availability of nearly every component has me wanting to save up and take a day trip from AZ to CA just to get it all done in one trip.

    • @kcgunesq
      @kcgunesq Před rokem +4

      @@Wrigglevision If you decide to go with them building, I think they guarantee same day completion if you order early enough.

    • @Globodyne
      @Globodyne Před rokem +2

      I know, none of these tech channels ever mention that option.

  • @LukeBroadhurstfilm
    @LukeBroadhurstfilm Před rokem

    The cable management is really well done!
    As someone myself building in a 7000D case, getting the inside cable shroud door frame is quite the challenge

    • @33gles
      @33gles Před rokem

      Except they used zip ties on 'user service' parts. Never use zip ties when velcro exists.

  • @stephenzulkowski4386
    @stephenzulkowski4386 Před rokem

    Love the "do it roght" bucket as steve mentions how to convince origin of a need for a drain valve.

  • @garyhome7101
    @garyhome7101 Před rokem +3

    I decided to use twist ties where I expected I'd have to disassemble cable runs for maintenance. Finding color matched twist ties is no big deal, they look fine, and are easy to remove and reinstall.

  • @Zanpaa
    @Zanpaa Před rokem +4

    I love the bucket saying "do it right" when you're draining the loop by putting the entire pc on its side (11:37)

  • @MrWarwickbass
    @MrWarwickbass Před rokem

    loved it when you cut the RGB cable. Epic😁

  • @shanewarren3823
    @shanewarren3823 Před rokem

    Fantastic build quality

  • @Apollo-Computers
    @Apollo-Computers Před rokem +8

    I did that kind of cable management once. Then when maintenance happened it was a nightmare. Now I kind of group wires depending on what they are to make it so much easier. It all hidden in the back so it's not pretty but it is functional.

    • @martymcfly88mph35
      @martymcfly88mph35 Před rokem +1

      Exactly. It's not worth it the second time

    • @coolcat23
      @coolcat23 Před rokem

      I fail to understand how GN can call this excess of cable tying "great cable management". This gross excess of cable ties is a waste of materials, adds to the cost, and creates a maintenance nightmare.

    • @Apollo-Computers
      @Apollo-Computers Před rokem

      @CoolCat it does look pretty, now I would only do it like this if the cable side actually showed all the time.

  • @Ehh.....
    @Ehh..... Před rokem +25

    Ive always wondered if the name associated with the pc order influences the quality. Like if your name is actually Steve, Linus, or that of any other prebuild reviewer; would they out of paranoia actually QA the device to make sure its good?

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +36

      Hahahaha. Imagine the pressure. You'd just constantly be on the lookout for names.

    • @RedBeardedRabbit
      @RedBeardedRabbit Před rokem +21

      Definitely true if your name is Beve Sturke!

    • @iaial0
      @iaial0 Před rokem +2

      @@RedBeardedRabbit "that damn Beve Sturke is a real PITA" -some aftersales guy, probably

  • @andresgallego5727
    @andresgallego5727 Před rokem

    I also don't have a drain valve in my loop, looking at you struggling with that bucket brought back so many recent memories lol.

  • @Matt-my7pz
    @Matt-my7pz Před rokem

    Draining that was absolutely brutal hey! And undue stress put on fittings and other parts.

  • @kingstoler
    @kingstoler Před rokem +4

    I can't imagine recommending anyone I know a prebuilt system. There are way too many straight up scams that makes it hard to justify a prebuilt system. Even if you happen to find a good deal on what looks like a decent prebuild you're only encouraging them to fall into future traps. I've built PCs for family and friends for 15+ years and never had a problem.

    • @MikeDawson1
      @MikeDawson1 Před rokem

      >I can't imagine recommending anyone I know a prebuilt system
      So what do you tell them when they ask you what they should buy?
      I just tell them I haven't been keeping up lately and they should walk into Microcenter and tell the nice person their budget and let them recommend something

    • @Olivia-W
      @Olivia-W Před rokem +1

      ​​​​​@@MikeDawson1Assuming they're my friends, I go with just helping them, along with a waiver that I'm not responsible for their stuff post-build.
      I try to only keep decent people as actual friends, so no one bothers me about it. I don't help people with PCs that I don't trust not to be b****s about it later- and they don't make my friend list in the first place.
      If it was my boss or some such... they can go take a hike (JK), but more seriously, I'd shrug and chances are suggest a laptop and a dock (they're really what most people need).

  • @feepit123
    @feepit123 Před rokem +3

    It looks like all of Origin's watercooling options include a "CORSAIR XF Adapter Drain Valve" - is this new or was this omitted on your build?

  • @erichobbs4042
    @erichobbs4042 Před rokem

    When Steve closes that case door, I'm reminded of that old radio show, Inner Sanctum.

  • @KIRUTHIElijahMwangi
    @KIRUTHIElijahMwangi Před rokem

    Amazing build quality

  • @yeuros6280
    @yeuros6280 Před rokem +67

    Don't ruin the cable management pls 😭

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +51

      That's how I felt during the tear-down!

  • @rusparmesan
    @rusparmesan Před rokem +220

    Unpopular opinion: zip ties every 3cm is not a good cable management. It's a nightmare to rearrange, especially if you don't have wirecutters and trying to cut them with scissors or knife. Velcro cable ties are so much better for this task.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +259

      I don't think that opinion is unpopular at all among DIY builders. Velcro ties are way better for maintenance, you're absolutely right. But these aren't built to be maintained or they'd have drain valves. Remember that this isn't built for someone who is likely to replace or add components.

    • @megadeth8592
      @megadeth8592 Před rokem +2

      Nah

    • @StandTallTx
      @StandTallTx Před rokem +22

      Who doesn't own wire cutters? But I do agree velcro is more ideal

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Před rokem +18

      ​@@StandTallTx I doesn't have wire cutters, but I have an angle grinder. So I guess that could work.

    • @StandTallTx
      @StandTallTx Před rokem

      @@literallyhuman5990 A blow torch might also do the trick!

  • @supersuede91
    @supersuede91 Před rokem +2

    Another classic gn prebuild video, keep it up boys

  • @Bondmaster007
    @Bondmaster007 Před rokem

    When you removed the seals and started draining the coolant, man I had mega anxiety, have a watercooled build and home and done a few times, never gets me less anxious 😂.

  • @TheMatthewLedbetter
    @TheMatthewLedbetter Před rokem +5

    In case Corsair reads the comments, here is the SKU for the part you need: SKU CX-9055020-WW
    You sell it to us for 20 bucks, so it's probably about $3 for you. for another 20 bucks to us, you could put a rotary splitter, and probably make this loop serviceable.

    • @actually5004
      @actually5004 Před rokem +1

      This isn't fast food, profit margins are never that good for PC hardware.

  • @MorRobots
    @MorRobots Před rokem +5

    Is the common practice now, Corsair case with a paint job? I didn't know Corsair owned Origin, Intresting.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +5

      No, it was a custom paint job. We talked about it in the review.

    • @MorRobots
      @MorRobots Před rokem

      ​@Gamers Nexus I don't care about the actual review. I'm never buying a pre-built in my life. However it's nice to see the physical builds, particularly when It's the case I have. Also the joy of hearing Steve's voice.

  • @irunoncaffeine2083
    @irunoncaffeine2083 Před rokem

    "Do it right" on the bucket at the same time you're talking about not having a drain valve leading to liability while balancing the tower on edge is a sight to behold.

  • @CrushburnGaming
    @CrushburnGaming Před rokem

    Good video. Thanks for this!

  • @philipp594
    @philipp594 Před rokem +4

    They should really use some Krytox 205 in those hinges ...

    • @christophermullins7163
      @christophermullins7163 Před rokem

      Idk what that is but it sounds sick.

    • @mikemoore5270
      @mikemoore5270 Před rokem +1

      @@christophermullins7163 it’s switch grease, when you build your own keyboards.

    • @philipp594
      @philipp594 Před rokem

      @@mikemoore5270 it is originally designed as a lubricant for moving parts in a car interior.
      So plastics and metals. To make them not rattle.

    • @mikemoore5270
      @mikemoore5270 Před rokem +1

      @@philipp594 I did not know that 😬 thank you friend

    • @philipp594
      @philipp594 Před rokem

      @@mikemoore5270 You are welcome =D

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa Před rokem +4

    "Nothing. They all suck!" - yeah, that's my opinion too. My first build was scary but after that, I can't imagine buying a pre-built.

    • @christophermullins7163
      @christophermullins7163 Před rokem +3

      I couldn't imagine not building myself I was the kid taking apart every electronic device in the house. I repaired my own PS1 at age 10 that my dad wouldn't take on. Lol it's in my blood apparently. My work is hands on with electrician and computers as well. Not surprising turnout.

  • @youtube.really.stole.my.handle

    At 7:22 you say 62,000 instead of 6200.
    Thanks for all your hard work guys

  • @AllDayBikes
    @AllDayBikes Před rokem

    I don't think I have ever heard you compliment someone's work so wholeheartedly. If i was the person who built and or cable managed this I'd be ecstatic haha.

  • @frijin490
    @frijin490 Před rokem +4

    Seems Origin has no clue what a drain valve is and don't include it in six grand build.

  • @bazzingabomb1705
    @bazzingabomb1705 Před rokem +20

    Whomever did the cable management needs a pay rise at the very least, what he/she has done is damn good.

    • @christophermullins7163
      @christophermullins7163 Před rokem +2

      You don't know what they make already.. that $6600 going somewhere lol

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Před rokem +17

      @@christophermullins7163 It's not going to the low level employees who actually do all the work. It's going to executives. Is this your first time experiencing capitalism?

    • @Ganiscol
      @Ganiscol Před rokem +4

      Its certainly great work for a computer. Perfect would be if some cables wouldnt cross over others in a few places. "All perfectly straight side by side!" is what my old teacher required us to do some 25 years ago for wiring jobs in control and switching cabinets. We hated his pedantry because in production nobody demanded this level of accuracy for obvious reasons. 😮‍💨

    • @GhostsGraphics
      @GhostsGraphics Před rokem

      @@mjc0961 Tell me you've never worked a job that requires a skillset without telling me you've never worked a job that requires a skillset.

    • @-aexc-
      @-aexc- Před rokem +2

      ​@@christophermullins7163 lmao you think it's going to the people assembling it

  • @obsidianpanduh
    @obsidianpanduh Před rokem

    This is amazing. I want to see Maingear next! I heard they've been one of the best prebuilts so far.

  • @Vid_The_Impaler
    @Vid_The_Impaler Před rokem

    I love how the bucket has the phrase "do it right"

  • @sleeplyd3057
    @sleeplyd3057 Před rokem +3

    That many zip ties is like a troll. I'd be so pissed if I got a build like that. It's like putting sticky notes all over someone's car

  • @moxbroker
    @moxbroker Před rokem +3

    Eh, the build quality wasn’t great overall. The paint was problematic, the side panel had issues, and the fluid is clogging the loop after a very short period. The cable management was done well, and the hard lines were run decently. But no easy way to drain a clogging system means that’ll be a very expensive paperweight for a lot of customers in a few years.

    • @RANDOMNATION907
      @RANDOMNATION907 Před rokem

      I don't understand why builders and AIO manufacturers don't use a waterless coolant. Like Evans (that's the brand name). It's a superior coolant. Cost maybe?

    • @moxbroker
      @moxbroker Před rokem

      @@RANDOMNATION907 in this case it’s not about the fluid, it’s the dye. Not sure “waterless” would solve the issue.

  • @farrez_gump
    @farrez_gump Před rokem

    Got to give Steve props for one handing that 7000d case, while holding a bucket, I have that case it’s pretty heavy

  • @ladmandiola8868
    @ladmandiola8868 Před 9 měsíci

    Great vid! This was a very unwise move on their part not including a drain valve. I actually purchased their Genesis Full Tower PC case (back in 2016), and custom built it on my own. Still have the case and don't have issues draining my system. I made sure to think that through very carefully, because of videos like this. Again, great vid!

  • @xenorias9724
    @xenorias9724 Před rokem +1

    That Lowe's bucket reading "DO IT RIGHT" couldn't be more on point during that loop drain!

    • @Marcelis
      @Marcelis Před rokem

      I didn’t even know they had a slogan. It’s gonna be in my head every time I do maintenance now😂

  • @TheTardis157
    @TheTardis157 Před rokem

    I have to say, the "do it right" on the bucket is a nice touch when draining the loop.

  • @fawkyooo7377
    @fawkyooo7377 Před rokem +1

    I have an older Origin Millennium case. I just got done customizing it to have 2 360mm XR7 radiators in both push and pull with EK water blocks for the CPU and ABP for the 3090ti, I mounted an EK Distro plate hard lined it with dual Commander Core Pros and Dual RGB Hubs. I custom Made my own distro plate mount and CCP Mounts swing out SSD Sleds front radiator mount and custom top radiator mount. Some pieces 3D printed and some CNC plasma cut.

  • @bradleys6646
    @bradleys6646 Před rokem

    I love how the bucket in giant print says "Do It Right"

  • @Y0G0FU
    @Y0G0FU Před rokem

    that cable management is a thing of beauty :o

  • @HTW_1
    @HTW_1 Před rokem

    I bought a custom hard loop beast from Ironside for just over 7 grand and they put in a drain valve. Thank God!

  • @kevkas
    @kevkas Před rokem

    The grey hair and grey beard is looking good on Steve, kudos to him for keeping it natural.

  • @mustdobetter6748
    @mustdobetter6748 Před rokem

    Origin PC - please cable manage my PC!! that's beautiful work. absolutely stunning!

  • @xpyr
    @xpyr Před rokem

    Just got my order for the disappointed pc t-shirt of 2022. Thank you very much! I got a shirt for LTX 2023 now.

  • @HermSezPlayToWin
    @HermSezPlayToWin Před rokem

    Thanks Steve!

  • @Skoll_theSunless
    @Skoll_theSunless Před rokem +1

    I'd really like to see you guys do a review of one of PowerGPUs pre-built PCs. They build some of the most beautiful machines I've seen.

  • @edsknife
    @edsknife Před rokem +1

    I'd actually like to see a series where you personally make the improvements you want in your prebuilts.

  • @ficklampa
    @ficklampa Před 9 měsíci

    Man, the contrast between this one and the one Jay reviewed is insane... Looks like it's two complete systems if you compare the watercooling alone.
    Hoping maybe you guys will visit Origin/Corsair and check out their assembly "factory", could be cool!

  • @barryhill9933
    @barryhill9933 Před rokem

    Hey Steve, something I wanted to bring up was that just because a part is being supplied between divisions under the same company umbrella does not mean that they are necessarily getting parts at cost or even reduced pricing. I worked for a manufacturing plant that really emphasized independent profitability in each division and not only charged full sales prices across divisions but still required regular contracts etc and would short less lucrative internal contracts for the sake of more lucrative external contracts even when they knew that the other division failing to meet contract deadlines or having to seek other outside suppliers on short notice would end up harming the company overall. I'm not saying it's smart, I'm just saying it does happen.

  • @AegisHyperon
    @AegisHyperon Před rokem

    oh man the creaking door got me good

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth Před rokem

    I love the Nezuko themed paint job.

  • @katzicael
    @katzicael Před rokem

    I had one of those motherboards, I miss it :( It's such a Great board.

  • @wicksleysnipes1476
    @wicksleysnipes1476 Před rokem

    Cutting that RGB cable was beautiful and metaphoric for me. Ha. I love it.

  • @nitrovadox
    @nitrovadox Před rokem +1

    The Hydro X Series XD5 RGB Pump/Reservoir Combo (That is what it looks like you have) Not only has a drain, but an integrated fill port as well. I guess you didn't notice the cover for it on the right side of your tubes. There are 3 ports on the block for a reason. It is interchangeable to route your tubes from that side if needed / wanted. You simply put in a 90degree with a flex hose to drain. It is also capable of a flush without having to remove anything.

  • @chronicalcultivation
    @chronicalcultivation Před rokem +2

    The sediment in the block was likely radiator gunk. Corsair rads require a very thorough cleaning before use, or the loop ends up with gunk and debris all over. I should know, I own 7 of them. I'm going to assume they didn't prep sufficiently.

  • @hquest
    @hquest Před rokem

    The Lowe’s bucket is the cherry on top.

  • @olly230
    @olly230 Před rokem +1

    Would like to see an airflow analysis. Like those smoky wind tunnels with different coloured smoke.

  • @Brenna_stubbs
    @Brenna_stubbs Před rokem

    I love how the bike it says do it right

  • @1event_horizon945
    @1event_horizon945 Před 11 měsíci

    That is very pretty cable management. I find that super tedious though so I went with the easy solution. I bought an 011 Dynamic XL and just yanked the cables into the void behind the back panel lol. Looks pretty enough up front.

  • @DampActionRC
    @DampActionRC Před rokem

    Awesome teardown and review! Now do a system from Falcon Northwest please

  • @theporgwholived9606
    @theporgwholived9606 Před rokem

    The do it right on the bucket is unironically hilarious.

  • @RepsUp100
    @RepsUp100 Před rokem +1

    Cable management expert ✅

  • @sqeaky8190
    @sqeaky8190 Před rokem

    Steve, Great tear down, thanks for the info, but You need a funnel with a hose! To drain that loop a funnel with a hose would have let you do pretty much what you did but for like $5 in parts you would have likely saved half your time. Another idea, You could have broken the loop the in one place, then pumped air in. I blow my loops clear, but I am pretty sure I have seen you pull out a little hand pump at least once.