Worst So Far: iBUYPOWER Pre-Built Gaming PC Slate MR1004 Review
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- We thought the bar for prebuilt PCs couldn’t get much lower after reviewing the systems from Dell & Cyberpower. iBUYPOWER's Slate MR is here to show us how wrong we were.
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The iBUYPOWER Slate MR1004 is the next in our lineup of pre-built gaming PCs to review. As usual, we have gaming benchmarks, thermals, noise testing, power consumption, and a tear-down to help determine who makes the best prebuilt gaming PC at a given price. This one is closer to the $700 mark, whereas previous prebuilt reviews featured $900 and $1050 systems. Being the cheapest one yet makes it the most accessible, but unfortunately, it also means there’s the most room for corner-cutting if the system integrator (SI) allocated its budget in non-sensible ways.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - “SYSTEM NOT TESTED”
01:44 - Value Discussion
02:58 - Really Trying to Find a Good System
04:03 - Tearing Down the iBUYPOWER Slate MR
05:40 - iBP Has a Screw Loose
06:43 - This Was Preventable
07:28 - GPU Ripped Out of the Socket
08:11 - Massive Damage
14:30 - CAUTION. HAZARDOUS AREA.
15:21 - Undercover Support & RMA Test
17:13 - BIOS Settings & Memory Issues
18:00 - Fans Didn't Turn On
19:00 - The Mouse Doesn't Even Click
19:50 - Mounting Pressure
20:38 - Gaming Benchmarks of iBUYPOWER Slate MR1004
21:05 - Cyberpunk 2077 Pre-Built PC Benchmarks
22:03 - Hitman 3's Insane Memory Difference
23:20 - Red Dead Redemption 2 Best Pre-Built Gaming PCs
23:44 - Rainbow Six Siege Pre-Built PC Benchmarks
24:12 - Noise Benchmarks
24:48 - Power Consumption Benchmarks
25:14 - Thermal Benchmarks
26:34 - Support Problems & Conclusion
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Hi Sttteeeeppphhheeennnn. Love how all these manufacturers fail so hard on building pre-built PC's!
Best of luck on the quest, finding an out of the box pre built with no real issues isn't easy.
Steve, please review CLX/Cybertron prebuilt gaming PC's!
I wonder if its orgin they are good but expensive
Dawid Does Tech Stuff (who delights in trashing bad prebuilts) actually found a Lenovo with almost no issues. If it's not already in your queue, it's a good one to add.
"Components tested individualy, not assembled" sounds like a futurama joke, and the punchline is ibuypower
they should change thier name to isellshit
FCC stickers are funny?
To paraphrase Ogden Wormstrom, "I give your quality control the worst grade imaginable: an F minus minus!"
I know it’s kind of a meme to overreact to something like this, but the sticker is for FCC compliance and not referring to the PC’s functionality.
It just means that components are individually compliant with FCC rules for RF interference, but the assembled PC was not tested as a whole for RF. It has nothing to do with IBuyPower testing the PC’s functionality after they built it.
@@bru_haha So how come the other prebuilts don't have it?
"IBP has a screw loose"
Yeah, both literally and figuratively
Lmao, a screw loose, bent and twisted and flopping about.
Purchased a $2,300 prebuilt from iBuyProblems that was put together wrong and doesn't work. I don't even know how it could have passed the "inspection".
Steve finally admits this entire series is because his grandma wants to get into gaming.
Pessimist: "The worst"
Optimist: "SO FAR!"
Homer, is this you?
Realist: there are no GPUs
Nihilist: idc i'm on console
Honestly I'm far from optimistic, but even I'm awaiting something far worse than this
@@Betsybabe3218 the ewaste pcs from ebay got you covered
I like to imagine all the sad single RAM sticks living together on the Gamers Nexus farm now
So underrated comment :o
@@thenetpagan go away
Well he can combine them
at this point they likely all have a friend
But they will be forever alone as they are all single sticks. Never being completed to be dual channel. :-(
"Worse than dell" definitely says something
I'm sure Dell/ Alienware will find a way to go even lower.
@@NightMotorcyclist 100% gpu usage on boot
@@NightMotorcyclist Biggest screw up Alienware ever did was sell to dell as they put out some good system till dell got there dirty hands on it.
@@wayge Thermal throttling on boot
@Ross- A -Roni Their business line is much better than their consumer desktop line, although depends on which agency is setting up the contract. Some city agencies I've seen/ worked for got second or third rate Optiplex PCs that would bog down almost immediately after boot with garbage "support" software and some drivers. These were running 8th and 9th gen i7 CPUs.
When you said "We are the personal IT for our friends and family" I felt that.
That is 100% a store return. When parts are hard to find I’ve bought prebuilts to get parts out of. I’ve bought probably 6 ibuypowers. They always have foam packing in the case and always have a printed manual. Someone bought that and jacked it up considering the missing pci-e clips. If that’s not the case it must of been someone last day and they were just like f it
i just recently bought one i didn't have the foam in the casing but there wasn't any damage to the pc its self
@JK not sure how you got that from my comment but no I've never returned one I was just saying someone did that to that one.
@JK reading comprehension is hard it seems.
@@lurchadams2400 I bought one a few months ago because other sites said they’re good machines. Mine was packaged well, had the foam inside the case, and everything works well.
It was about $1400 which is double the cost of this one. Something I’ve noticed about the bad iBuyPower reviews is they’re reviewing machines for $500-700. Of course that’s a piece of trash. You can’t get a game computer for that, the GPU itself costs that much.
@@johnmaurer3097 you can actually get pretty good gaming pc’s for 700 bucks, especially since gpu prices aren’t as abysmal as they were a few months ago.
This is actually depressing
Tech Jesus is saving us from throwing away our money. But yes also depressing.
That thumbnail though. It's like forgive them Father they no not what they do
Imagine being the average joe that is new to computers and has to deal with this huge amount of crap.. This looks at least 1-2 months of back and forth RMA... if you are lucky and they send it back to you in a working state the second time...
With all the pre built apparently this bad and components so hard to get I fear for the future of PC gaming.
That was my exact thought
“I was gonna remove the last screw but they pre removed it for me” i lost it
🤣😂🖐️👍☠️
Just like the screw eh?
I absolutely love the review style GN has. It's very particular, strong, fair, and the attention to detail is second to none, nor is the consistency!
In your sentence, replace "nor" with "as". Just a little syntax tip. Otherwise, I agree with your statement.
@@jimgray3346 i dont know what the fuck I was thinking
@Chaosdude341 what I wnor thinking*
@@jimgray3346just like* the consistency sounds a bit nicer to me
that's a bit of a run on sentence, it's syntactically more accurate to use "as is" given both consistency and attention to detail are being compared similarly @@EmperorFeatherFlight
When getting into PC gaming, I got a low tier rig similar to this back in 2014 from ibuypower through Best Buy as a Christmas gift. I had two RMA's because my first rig had a hard drive failure, and the second one had a graphics card failure. This video really showed me how bad they are and imagine how bad they were 6+ years ago...
I got one through NewEgg 2 years before you roughly... Mine ended up not being bad, had internal packaging and the HDD is actually still functioning to this day... somehow. I quickly upgraded it to a 7770 at the time this was an upgrade lol. It was a 1gb model and it was on clearance for $100 cdn. Eventually ran an i5 4th gen in the case... move to an r9 280x then a 1060... the memories.
@@Zarrx I had a similar experience. Bought an ibuypower pre-built in August 2014. Wasn't too bad for an entry level build but I definitely overpaid for what it was. The following spring I ditched the reference design R5 250 1GB for an MSI R9 280 3GB and a proper power supply. It actually gamed fairly well at 1080p with just a GPU upgrade. Later on in the summer of 2015 I decided the AMD FX 4300 wasn't cutting it so I swapped it out for an i5 4690k and new motherboard. This propelled the once lackluster pre-built into the stratosphere (compared to how it was before). I gamed heavily on this setup for years until 2017 came around and it was time for another GPU upgrade. The R9 280 was one hell of a card for the duration I owned it but the GTX 1070Ti I replaced it with was a much needed upgrade and allowed me to dabble in some light 1440p gaming. In 2019 I decided the entire build would get an overhaul for as many flagship components as possible. Little did I know Covid-19 was about to derail that entire plan. Late summer/early fall, 2020, deep in the pandemic, I was having trouble acquiring any parts for decent pricing. I ended up going with an i7-10700k which was still a massive leap from the i5-4690k that was showing it's age. Swapped the board, chip, ram, and waited for the release of the RTX 3xxx series cards. The hunt for a GPU made the hunt for an i9-10900k look like a pre-school game of hide and seek. Three weeks ago, June 2021, through newegg shuffle I was able to snag an EVGA RTX 3070Ti FTW3 for $800. Not my first choice for a GPU upgrade as I was hoping for an RTX 3080 but I could not pass up the opportunity for a current gen GPU given the circumstances and the MONTHS I spent scouring every website possible for in stock GPUs. For the RTX 3070Ti to fit I would have to move the build into a different case. Now the only remaining part of my system left from 2014 is the hard drive which is beginning to degrade in performance and will most likely fail in the near future. What a journey and experience it was with this pre-built to climb the ladder of PC gaming into a high end build. My current system specs: Intel Core i7-10700k @ 4.9GHz, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070Ti FTW3 ULTRA, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi ATX LGA1200, Deepcool Gamerstorm Captain 360X White, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200, Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive, Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM, Corsair RM850x 850w 80+ Gold certified (2021).
What pc would you recommend someone who is looking to start playing on one? Games like gta role play etc..
@@baby832 probably worth staying away from Dell, HP, Alienware. Monitor online retailers for pre-builts that go on sale. Your GPU will probably be the most important component... 1060/1660/2060/3060 or better. Or on the AMD side you can go with the RX 580 or 5500 xt/5600/6600 (coming out).
You want an SSD of at least 500gb as well. CPU would be good to be i5/Ryzen 5 but you can get a Ryzen 3 or i3 of a newer generation (Ryzen 3000 or Intel 7th Gen or newer)
I must’ve gotten lucky I bought one for 1k from bestbuy 6 years ago worked flawless 3 years had a ram stick die the next year the ssd died and now the power supply blew and took the motherboard with it all in all tho I was happy with it
"everyone here is personal IT for friends and family"
Steve, this hits too close to home
I just say ‘if I was a surgeon, would you expect me to operate on you in your house, and for free?” But yeah- I’ve been there. Worst thing is this: anything you touch or fix is forever your problem when it goes wrong.
last year my dinning table full of friends and family PCs... they think i am a pc wizard and i told them i only know how to use google search better than them
*sad IT noises*
@Zippy Dastrange Most of them afresh windows install solved the problems, other i had to dissassemble the pc. But yeah above 80% was software issues
so true.
"Caution: Hazardous Area"
probably truer than intended
I am morbidly curious if that PSU collects fire-hazard levels of dust inside...
@@justsomeperson5110 The PSU itself is a fire hazard. Raidmax is one of the worst PSU vendors, their units are known to explode and not be able to handle anywhere near their rated load.
ever experience a loose screw falling into a PSU, bike yikes.
@@beef682 I once had a ground wire pop out of an AMP connector and in a one in a billion chance the strain on the wire caused it to flip back towards the PSU. In a further one in a billion chance, the bare end of the wire make it through the grille on the housing and touched the primary side heatsink. That was such a loud bang and bright flash that it took me a few seconds to collect myself realize what happened.
So much current went into the heatsink that it blew a hole into the side of it about the size of a pencil eraser.
The entire primary side of the power supply was destroyed. Mosfets turned to charcoal skidmarks, the bridge rectifier shorted out and the fuse was nothing but glass bits rattling around in the case.
@@GGigabiteM Once one of my PCIE slot case guard things; those metal slits, fell under my motherboard when my PC was in a cardboard box because I thought that would be a good idea, and I accidentally knocked my desk one time and the bracket must've bounced up right under the motherboard and a poor little VRM got ded
I like that statement "pretty much everyone here is the personal IT of friends and family". So true, and it's a title that so many of us, myself included, hold. This is a great video series, it reminds me exactly why I will always prefer to build my own PC's, even with the current silicon shortage.
1000000000% agree
Awesome series. Especially since building my own is now out of the question with shortages and scalping.
"The plastic is chewed up" Yup, looks like when the GPU pulled out, it bent the slot itself, not just the reinforcement. This also explains how the clip came out; it would have popped off when the GPU came off the slot. I've made the mistake a couple of times of forgetting that these clips changed design from the old molded plastic design, and popped them off myself. Honestly doesn't take a whole lot of force to pop them off if you have a GPU in there to use as a lever
Honestly if the components were so poorly installed and so treated so badly in shipping it's kind of a miracle none of them arrived bricked.
@@andyenglish4303 You could almost forgive the GPU coming loose, or even the motherboard mounting (if it was torn out by a heavy GPU) as shipping damage, and told them just to use the expanding foam bags. But the "installed/not tested" sticker demonstrates they know they have issues, and prefer to waive responsibility away with legal boilerplate, rather than fix any QC or warranty/support problems.
That pcie slot was bent during assembly, Because for the system to be dropped hard enough to bend like that during shipping the side panel or whatever other glass should be shattered and other likely other damage to the case it self. Coming from experience working in a SI build warehouse I've seen Properly packed systems encased in plywood and foam get dropped by UPS and the PCIE slot is literally ripped off the board and in all the cases the glass was shattered sometimes even ram popped out of slots as well as custom watercooling tubing popped out of place due to drops.
@@Holesale00 In fairness, the whole mobo moved and even stripped one of the screws out and I think those panels are acrylic. Or, someone hulked on it so hard to shift the motherboard - that's jumping off a trampoline,, while aiming at the slot with the GPU, level of force.
But how would it have popped off the retention clips on every other slot as well? I wonder if iBP removed all the retention clips to prevent customer damage to the mobo from trying to remove the GPU and not knowing to release the clip first. If that was the case, it may have backfired here.
Are we sure this PC wasn't intercepted and tampered with by Dell to make theirs appear less bad?
This thing is trash, even by Dell standards.
My IbuyPower has been flawless for 2+ years now, pushed hard as a gaming and audio production unit.
Ehhh I doubt it, I don't see gamers Nexus doing that plus I used to work there and let me tell u, quality standards there a shiet
@@JeighNeither I'm glad you got one that serves your needs. I'll never give them a dime, but mostly on principle for me. They're trying to take advantage of computer ignorance, pawning off old tech like GT 710s (shit card even 10 years ago) in "gaming" rigs full of RGB, to people just wanting to get their kid something to play Fortnite on.
@@Xolerys the comment was a joke
Its sad to see this considering all the work I used to put into builds at a small pc integrator I used to work for. Certainly we used cheap cases as we were business focused but we still took things a bit more seriously including a full days worth of testing for every PC that went out the door.
Purchased a $2,300 prebuilt from iBuyProblems that was put together wrong and doesn't work. I don't even know how it could have passed the "inspection".
Great video as always I enjoy these very professional in-depth reviews
Back when I used to do SI on ebay, I would ship my PCs out of my apartment. I eventually used FedEx but, prior to that, I used UPS. Well, I scheduled a pickup and UPS came to get this large, 35lb full tower system and this angry little man threw it down the stairs after I closed the door. He didn't know I was watching him through my peephole. I got sooo pissed. When I confronted him he claimed it was an accident and wouldn't let me have it back bc it was already scanned in, saying "That's what insurance is for"... I had to pay to have it rerouted and rebuilt the system. UPS did nothing about it.
Should of just threw him down the stairs and say it was an accident, no evidence ;)
I hear that. As someone who services basses and guitars as a side business I have had customers use UPS twice. First time it ended with a broken headstock. Second time an instrument got lost in transit, then delivers to a random ups service place in another city 3 weeks later. Great company with excellent sEerViCe 10/10.
As someone that works in the industry (LTL freight), UPS does infact have the highest claims. It's despicable when people treat shipments like that but sadly it happens. I know at my job most of us try to preserve the shipments to the best of our abilities.
Although much of this iBuyPower computer was beyond shipping damage. The trucks that haul these packages are bouncy and I could foresee one particularly hard bump shifting the GPU enough to damage the PCI slot. It's definitely a sensitive item and the shipper should have prepared it better.
how does someone even "accidentally" yeet a 35 lb system?
I've been pretty lucky with shipping my whole life. The only one I've ever had an issue with is UPS. They either won't just leave the damn thing on the door step and make me drive 30-40 minutes to pick it up or I've had them yeet my packages over my 8 foot tall back fence. One time the damn box was even labeled fragile. Thankfully the packing was good enough to take the fall but god damn I cringe when I've bought something and see it's UPS doing the delivery.
I didn't know The Verge sold pre-builts.
GN found the guy's new day job
Well thanks for giving me cringe flashbacks, I forgot that video existed until now.
@@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays Oh, sorry...my bad
All hail brackets! \o/
You get a bracket and you get a bracket! Everyone gets a bracket!
I’ve heard so much about this verge video in the past few years, I can sorta guess what it looked like, but I really want to watch the original just for fun :p
do you know if its recording is still available somewhere on the internet?
I truly enjoy your product diagnostics and reviews. Thank you! :-)
I know this is from a year ago, but both the PCIE clips were snapped on my build, and it was shipped with a broken gpu, kinda glad though, it got me into PCs more!
Same model? Or just from ibuypower too?
@@axelNodvon2047 I don’t believe so. The one I had was from their Slate Lineup.
I had a iBUYPOWER that i just replaced worked great for 5 years(still works). shipping can really suck.
Purchased a $2,300 prebuilt from iBuyProblems that was put together wrong and doesn't work. I don't even know how it could have passed the "inspection".
30 seconds in and my jaw has dropped in complete horror
30? Took me just 8!
lol, just posted the same. that sticker is hilarious (*ly bad)
Not even 30 seconds.
I face palmed myself into another dimension
Should have had a weight bearing CPU cooler.
I'm beginning to understand why Apple makes a killing if this is how the competitors in the pre-built space do.
It's because the courts allowed apple to create a monopoly by sueing compact. Which was a decent prebuilt company at the time.
@@Bourikii2992 No, this has nothing to do with this.
Its because the 30 other major SIs dont do their job properly. Apple didnt become a major player because they sued an already dying company.
@Gareth Tucker Apple also invest more time, money and resources in general to their packaging than most other companies invest in their entire logistics operation. Never mind the actual logistics once they're boxed. Even the trapezoidal shape of the older iMac boxes was designed to make stacking them on pallets easier and more secure while taking up less space so they could get more per stack. Then there's the totally obvious "why does hardly anybody else do this?" aspect of the boxes opening outwards so you can get the damn thing out easier. Have you tried taking out a monitor or case from their box in a small room? Fucking nightmare! Compared to just opening the flap on the iMac box.
I was about to post a similar response. How is just base assembly and shipping such an issue with these companies?
It’s almost like comparing speeds of the builds is beside the point when just turning it on is such a poor experience.
How the fuck is it remotely acceptable to slap a sticker on a PC that says "FULL PC NOT TESTED"? What an absolute joke. THIS is the company that won best prebuilt from LTT? Now I understand why we've been telling people not to buy prebuilts for so long.
Love your work and channel, I'm new here. Keep up the awesome, professional, and often hilarious videos.
I love the prebuilt series please keep it going!!!
A raidmax PSU. Whew. They spared every expense.
While I can agree this PSU is a cheaper low end unit not really ideal for a mid range gaming build. I thought I'd like to add I've had great luck with raidmax's products. My power supply is going on 7 years now without issues. Being used daily for mining & gaming (2 gpus and a hot overclocked amd FX cpu). Some of their products are better than people tend to think in my opinion. Obviously you also get what you pay for.
@@ConnorReviewsandMore well this one doesn't even have Active PFC - you can tell by the presence of the voltage selector switch. A PSU built in recent years that doesn't have APFC is going to be horrible, no exceptions.
@@ConnorReviewsandMore Mine is from 2008 (500 watts) , Powered a core 2 duo e6850, a radeon hd 4850 512mb, 2gb ram, a 160 gb WD hard-drive, a 500 gb seagate. It is in perfect condition because I opened it up once a year and cleaned it with compressed air.
Due to reading PSU reviews for years, my instinctive response to Steve mentioning 'Raidmax' was one of disbelief and terror. To me, Raidmax PSUs will forever be linked with fried mainboards and hard drives, performing only marginally better than Deer PSUs (RIP).
Not having APFC on this particular model and yet a flashy sticker and outside makes me question how long it'll take before the Raidmax PSU puts the rest of this iBuyPower system out of its misery.
@@MayaPosch oh jeez. deer PSUs. **horrible flashbacks**
I've run a local computer build/repair shop for almost 20 years now. I have nightmare stories of people bringing in pre built system like a week old that were bad but NOTHING and I mean NOTHING compares to this. This is horrible.
This pc seems extremely bad and definitely a store return rather than a pull apart.
Yeah, this is _a nightmare..._ If I were to open this up - I would probably just button it back up, and return with a NO-FIX. No matter how much the customer might tell me that nobody went into this thing, it would look like a very badly botched user repair attempt. "If it really came in like this, I can give you my documentation - and you have to deal with the OEM."
" people bringing in pre built system like a week old" Why are the bringing them to you and paying you when they no doubt have a warranty?
@tsdobbi Because they couldn't RMA them. I've worked on 5 systems in the past 6 months that the companies wouldn't RMA because of so called "shipping damage" or "Abuse". One of them the company didn't didn't even secure the video card pre shipping one the water block wasn't even secured and had no paste on it. Both of them the companies would not RMA. They claimed it was shipping damage and the person had to go through the shipping insurance which would take 3 months to get the system back.
@@Crash32378 That's insane. I feel awful for those people, but at least you were there to help them out.
I love your mod mat my dude, i use it for a mouse pad ngl. Keep up the content.
Thank you so much for doing these tests!
It was very helpful for me as I consider what pre-build I will buy in the near future.
I wouldn’t expect something worse than that dell prebuilt so I guess that’s an achievement from Ibuypower
@John R I had a Dell with no internet. After HOURS and hours with tech support, I decided to install an ethernet card bypassing the motherboard connection. I called them back to tell them I solved their problem. They sent tech to my house to replace motherboard. Proprietary Crap. Years and years ago it was a $1500 computer.
The rateing is sub-dell
Nice
Dell has awful design, iBP has awful quality control.
The Dell was crazy bad for other reasons. At least that actually worked and wasn't a potential fire risk just for turning it on.
Worse than the G5? This is gonna be good.
One thing Dell has done really well is that the systems are well built. Sure everything about it is proprietary and not much upgrade options Ibut for the most part, a Dell PC will arrive in working order and will last years. I recommend the Optiplex and laptops to my clients.
Other than the pay for more support shit. Dell systems are mostly none issue. If you know what parts Dell used. You can actually repair or upgrade it yourself and save money
@@Paul_Sleeping optiplex are really good, I recently bought a usff mode for my mom, with an i5 2400, slap an ssd and works just fine for browsing and ms office
@@Paul_Sleeping @Paul_Sleeping would not agree. I found that most computers from dell fail miserably due to cheap parts they use. Well at least thats how it is in the company i work at Most common issue I find is their RAM is (poop) that fails all the time that requires replacement. And all that bloatware keeps growing into more if you leave them on auto update and do not delete it. Maybe on laptop game they are good, but definitely fail on desktops.
Lenovo legion T5, mine has functioned incredibly well, great performance and cooling, only complaint would be noise but I play with headphones and don't notice the noise with them on.
Watching these makes me really appreciate the time I put in on my 950$ custom built
"Complete system not tested" This is unacceptable for a prebuilt. If you are paying them to build it, it should be fully tested. I'd return it and state that as my reason why.
That is an FCC sticker. Pretty sure it means all the components pass FCC standards but the thing as a whole hasn't been tested. It has nothing to do with testing the pc for functionality.
It's baffling that this appears to be an industry standard. Storage device not even plugged in? No OS on it once connected? Blasé responses from tech support: "oh that's totally normal, we don't check, maybe we might write an install script someday"?
It should be tested for sure. The bare minimum I expect is windows/bios boot to see everything is plugged in and not this NO testing BS
Where I worked, all assembled builds were tested; temperatures (if available), all fans working, all USB slots, sound, OS (if installed) and graphics card (driver + outputs). We could normally detect issues while the OS was being cloned onto the SSD/HD, which took 5-8 minutes. So, there is NO excuse for these cheap manufacturers, to send out pre-builds to costumers with so many quality issues.
@@spell105 "lease look into what this sticker means. It's about the WiFi, nothing else." That's not what is says though. Also looking at the FCC guide, it's clear it's more than the wifi but the system as a whole. "For a product assembled from tested components but not tested as a system;" So no it's about the while system and has nothing to do with wifi only.
Cyber Power feeling really good about that "Better than Dell" award.
Yea-nah. That's basically only saying dog poop tastes slightly better with a cherry on top :)
Just need to push those warrantees and then they'll be matched.
Eff Cyber Power, horrible company, horrible products, and oh wow their "customer support" lol
Yeah that should've been an easy thing, but I guess not 😂
@@RJW14 That's what you get having minimum wage workers with zero experience with no breaks working with computer hardware. I bet if they'd pay people a decent wage and give them some training before this would not happen.
GN needs a big partner to make this a series forever, these are by far my favorite videos and most informative.
My main takeaway is that ASRock did a great job at reinforcing their motherboard
The lack of support here is the worst part... I can't imagine spending hundreds on a product, have it come like this, and hear nothing back from customer support.
Well, i imagine their support team has a full inbox if they ship all of their systems like this.
I bet the overburdened customer support guy is also in charge of installing GPUs.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 I am pretty sure there are 2 of them and I have talked to both! lol
I always tell people to not buy pre-built. If they have issues because the vendor is the one who messed up the PC, they are beyond help.
@@Aereto It seems that good support is a premium that you have to pay extra for (which makes sense..).
LTT's undercover PC shopper series showed that boutique SIs do a much better job with support.
I genuinely thought Dell was so shocking that they couldn't be beat...
At least dells get to the point where it bluescreened from heat. These just don’t run at all lmao.
I agree there. I am disappointed by CyberPower as their products seem of be well designed. I was considering using them at one point. Ultimately, I built my own as I had some of the parts already and there was no price advantage. Granted this was a few years ago.
The dell isnt even bad outside of bloatware.. lol
@@spacetoast4874 I love the fact that the bar has to be set so low lol.
@@pacificdrum0301 old dell is god tier reliable lol. I’ve still got 4 2005-2009 era PCs Alive and running good lol.
my strangest experience of a loose part was an old Flip-phone/Walky-talky style antenna wedged behind the motherboard.
That sound effect at 4:46 scared the shit out of me! I jumped out of bed and waited to hear sirens
To recap...
- Cyberpower sells an inefficient radiator
- Dell sells a set of Dell parts put together for the purpose of running Dell bloatware
- iBuypower sells a box of loose steel and silicon that someone used to relieve anger
The bar for pre-built PCs seems to be on board the Titanic
Pre builds, at this point, are just means to get your hands on a Motherboard, CPU, and Hopefully a decent GPU.
My 800 dollar CyberPower PC (From October 2020) came with crappy everything like the CPU cooler, RAM, PSU and case fans. All the original parts that were kept on mine are the Motherboard, CPU and case. Everything else has been replaced with better stuff.
Even My RTX 3060, ryzen 5 3600 CyberPower version had crappy parts which were also upgraded.
It is the only way to get computers nowadays so we have to make do. It's either that or bite the bullet and buy components at scalper prices, the pre builds aren't really helping that much either.
@@totalannihilation9065 Bro... I just bought a CLX set prebuilt from a retailer. It was pristine. Built exactly to order. Shipped, double boxed with all the foam, and everything. Instantly powered on, and I got to installing my software. First prebuilt Gaming PC Super glad I chose that instead of the iBuypower, and the other option. 😬
@@totalannihilation9065 I’d argue it would also be “hopefully a decent motherboard”
What about Digital Storm? I've had success with my pre-built PC I bought from them
@@kayak118 I bought my pre-built PC from Digital Storm like 5 months ago and I've been satisfied with it
"This is where I would remove the last screw but it was already pre-removed for me." I love you, Steve. ♥️
All these little burns and wittiness jar me out so much too haha.
Steve's sarcastic humor is much like my own and it's a big reason I come back 😂
My PC was shipped great and had one of those expandable shipping foam pads included inside. I took it apart and everything was golden. I didn't get a prebuilt though and chose parts but still.
I bought an ibuypower prebuilt for about $1400 last year - honestly it came in excellent shape. It had padding inside the case, fully function with decent cable management. Over a year later and still no issue, minus a higher ambient CPU temp than I would like (but still within a reasonable range).
Seeing this video makes me feel LUCKY that I recieved a decent product. I would be so stressed if I had recieved that lol.
Literally same for me mine is about a year and nothing has been a major issue so fsr
Bruh i just ordered one for $2k, i pray it lasts me at least a year with 0 problems.
Yea I got the y40 4070 with the i7 and it's been perfect actually better than what I was expecting maybe just luck
Wow, I honestly wasn't aware of just how abysmal the prebuilt market is.
There's a reason why people look down on prebuilds, and it's not only elitism.
I think there are pre-builts from smaller start up companies that have attention to detail and care into pre-builts they sell.. Well at least in my country
I don't remember it being this bad in the past. I get that "grandma" PCs are no good--they never were--but the higher end systems used to be okay if overpriced.
@@Unborn8436 I think they just do not worry about their cheaper builds. I have had good luck buying some higher dollar machines. My cousin however bought a budget pc a while back and had months of issues, all were from the same company.
Yeah, pre-built PCs have no prestige from actual PC communities. Just wannabes and stupids getting impressed on eye candy.
I moved on to building PCs because pre-builts cheap out on parts that end up bottlenecking the parts you want.
What I learned today: UPS's favored shipping method is trebuchet. Also ibuypower hasn't gotten its act together.
That looks like its not a shipping problem.
I work for a freight shipping company that ships prebuilt gaming PCs out of Seattle, I can't remember from whom. Let me say I wouldn't trust anything more fragile than an anvil to be shipped with my company if it were my property! These gaming computers are often hastily thrown into uninsulated trailers with virtually no suspension, few if any tie downs, and shifting freight!
@@iFiReRaiN Not entirely, no, but I doubt even the cheapest of SIs would manage to destroy a metal-plated PCIe slot just by building.
@@trevorsmith470 This metal plating is more show then anything else mate. its made from a thin sheet of metal. The Material would need to be 2-4times the thickness to make a difference at all.
@@mrn234 Yeah probably right. Still, the fact that they bent a PCIe slot at all instead of just ripping it out is quite telling.
I had an ibuypower that I loved in the early DDR3 days, but even that PC required some reassembly after they shipped the whole thing in the mobo box with no extra securing.
If its any consolation, ive had a bunch of friends recently decide to get into PC gamin and all of them speced out an iBUYPOWER machine. None of them came with any glaring issues and i did check each one. Only complaint was the turn around time of nearly 2 months.
6:20 you know you have problem one of the tabs is sticking out over a USB port, you can see the PCB through the HDMI cutout, one of the USB ports is as good as gone underneath the io shield, and your ps/2 port looks like a waning gibbous moon...
You get a heart specifically for working in the phrase "waning gibbous moon."
@@GamersNexus lol I'm sure its not often that pc ports get compared to phases of the moon, but I figured it sounded better than "semi obstructed circle with 6 holes and a rectangle"
@@GamersNexus You thought right, It's worse than shipping damage, the motherboard wasn't even lined up with dust cover in your video. The tabs on the dustcover that are supposed to be above some of the ports on the motherboard are stuck in the ports, hdmi and usb. These would be bent if it was shipping damage.
Me then: Oh, that dell is about exactly as bad as a technically functioning computer could be, guess that's the floor
Me now: Oh how naive I was.
There was a saying about a university president that used school money for his own purchases. "He picked the bar up off the floor, proceeded to stab a hole in the floor with it, and took the bar down to the basement."
Well, I mean it wasn't technically functioning and had to be fixed by someone requiring about the same if not more knowledge than building a PC from parts.
No you were correct... because straight out of the box this PC probably would have had a short and died. Dell is still the floor for a functioning PC.
@@andyenglish4303 Yeah, I wasn't expecting anyone to ship a computer that wasn't technically functioning, so this caught me by surprise.
i once had a ibuypower slate pc, and it kept on crashing and bootlooping. Turned out that the ram stick was sticking out and wasnt fully put in
That one’s on you man
@@thenoobslime4881 no it bloody well isn't. it's an easy fix -- that shouldn't have to be done when you've paid a company to professionally build. In what world is improperly seated RAM the CUSTOMER'S fault you troglodyte?
The mangling of the back io makes me think the assembler forgot to install it and tried to force it in after the mobo (and more?) was already installed. (I did that once years ago, and forever regretted it. I'm still ashamed )
what are the odds that this is the same pc
The silver lining is these pre-builts make WalMart look like a pretty high quality brand.
Isnt that terrifying? 😂
Great Value PCs
You haven't seen the videos of their Wal-Mart computer buys, have you? Lol
@@Nareimooncatt You haven't watched this video have you? Lol
"By getting a super F" Dang, Steve went Mr. Crocker on iBuyPower's sorry excuse for a build
Now if only we could just wish these horrible computers away from our plane of existence.
I made an order with IBP during the winter of 2021 using one of their pre-built pc's as a base system, just swapping out the gpu, power supply, and internal storage in favor of slightly better upgrades. With M+KB, a new Monitor, and a few other accessories I was looking at about a $1,600 setup. Thankfully I did not run into any of the issues mentioned in the video and I honestly remember my setup arriving in much better shape in regards to the packaging. I found all of the pc parts to be firmly in place with no damaged drives, slots, or ports, and to my surprise, although not perfect - the cable management was surprisingly pretty clean, despite not paying extra money for the "Cable Management" option. I was constantly being provided updates on the status of my pc up to the day it arrived, and found that IBP was actually very good about responding to my questions/concerns. To this day I am using that pc with no problems so I wonder if some of the issues in the review could be related to the additional shipping and handling that came with purchasing from a retailer and not IBP directly.
I got a this brand OC from Best Buy and I had to return it the same day new one came in and it’s all good
"Here's where bad gets worse."
*THERE'S MORE?!*
Noooo...Dear GOD
always has been.
My $1300 prebuilt came with the fan rgb unplugged, the cpu was overheating because all the screws were not fastened. the sticker covering the back tore off and left stuff everywhere. the bios was misconfigured and xmp was off. my gpu is faulty and the fan presses against the heatsink, scratching it and making a rattle. i put cardboard between the fan and heatsink to fix it after being rma'd the worst possible version of my graphics card. it wasnt worth rma'ing so i sent them back their rma and kept my cardboard stuffed gpu.
@@quasarproductions2690 I hope you have learned a valuable lesson. DON'T BUY PREBUILDS!
(Hope you have a stable system now!)
we expected nothing and were still let down
I expected prebuilts to be bad but i thought dell would have been the absolute bottom of the barrel garbage tier trash that would be impossible to beat but ibuypower proved me wrong.
I got the revolt 2 from ibuypower back in feb of 2019 and I really enjoy it and it runs well. Though the case setup is annoying to upgrade components it’s a great pc otherwise
I have had mixed experience when iBuyPower. First pc I bought from them was a customized rig with a 1070 and an i5. Got to me quickly, ram fine, cable management was great. No complaints. Second was a 2080ti, i7, ssds, upgraded Corsair RGB fans, RGB lighting, aio, all of the bells and whistles. It arrived late, and when opening the box, which was in perfect condition, I found the entire case to be broken up. Front plate hinge was broken. Top of the case was cracked and mountings were broken. The thumbscrews for the glass were bent. Horror story goes on. It was quite obvious that someone had dropped the PC and packaged it anyways. I knew it wasn't caused by the shipper because the inner and outer boxes were in perfect condition. I repacked it and sent it back. Took over two weeks to get a new one which was unacceptable considering I had paid for the express building and had already waited for it in the first place. Upon getting the new one, at least it wasn't destroyed, but the wiring was absolutely terrible. Thia was infuriating because I paid for the "professional" wiring. So in order to add my hard drives and stuff from my previous rig, I completely gutted it, rewired everything myself at put it back together. I also paid for an over clock. It wasn't applied. I bought the computer because at the time I didn't have enough time to build my own. After everything, i functionally had to build it myself anyways. Was absolutely infuriated. On top of everything their customer service was beyond poor. After that experience I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
This makes the Walmart PC look incredibly better lol
Oh shoot is it that bad 😂 I got the worst so far but took that as a question 😂
I bought a Walmart one on sale when it was 600$ 2 years+ ago and it’s been amazing since for a cheap computer with a 1070 in it haha.
My older brother just got into pc gaming at the worst possible time for price to value, but ended up getting him a Hewlett packard pavilion prebuilt with a r5 3500 and a 1650 super for 600 at walmart, everything else we could find at best buy was like 500 and had i3 lol
Yeah and those were actually super good deals on sale. That mostly came down to crappy low end motherboard and abysmal case.
@@JustinStrate You can always just rip out the 1070 and put it in a custom rig lol. But you'll probably want to redo the thermal paste on the GPU.
Their tagline should be "iBuyPower: Setting the floor in pre-built quality"
They could truthfully claim they were "setting new standards"...
@@ferrumignis Indeed, need to put some asterisks tho lol
The literal basement dwellers of the PC world.
I wish this series had been out a few months ago. Should try an ABS prebuilt, newegg caries them and I was surprised by the build quality on mine.
They actually charge extra for that packing. I made sure I bought my ibuypower with a credit card that offers purchase protection. Luckily I don't live far from their location so I ended up with next day delivery (after the 2 month wait) so mine was handled with better care.
I'm considering traveling the globe to halt people before they buy pre builds and making their systems for free
Sooo, Dell set the bar really really low, yet ibuypower still insists on limboing under it.... impressive actually
he ddint buy it from ibuy power.. god only knows where that ben i bought 2 pcs directly from ibuypower and they where great.. i now know how to build pcs so i just build my own now but i would deff order from them again..
I bought one directly from ibuypower to and it's awesome
@@noobmasters6913 That doesn't exactly matter because if the box is undamaged, one can reasonably assume the damage was when it was initially packaged or even before. This isn't on the retailer, it's on the builder.
@@NightfallGemini or it was repacaged.. all i know is that i have orderd 2 and my friends order from them as well and i have yet to see one issue. he didnt order straight from i buypower. that changes thing because it could have been bought and returned and sold again for all we know
why would ibuypower knowingly sell a broken pc.. also all the pcs ive seen come from them have the packaging inside the tower. that's why i think something's up here
Carriers: It's cheaper to absorb the cost of damaged parcels than to change our ways.
Distributors: It's cheaper to absorb the cost of DOA units than to change our QA processes, and we can always claim from the carrier for anything they've damaged.
Retailers: aww crap.
Don't know about carriers, but couriers don't pay out that much... Almost no one packs to the standards listed on courier “acceptable packaging" requirement webpages...
Right now everyone of my friends been asking me to build them a PC and i keep telling them to save their money and wait a bit longer cause PC Parts especially GPUs are extremely over price expensive. So i love that you're doing this series cause it'll help me help them better.
If you're looking for a prebuilt with power, I recommend a legion t5. Was my first legitimate computer to get me started with modding after my legion t530. It's a great computer with many areas to help you understand how and what to mod, with a somewhat good amount of rgb out of the box.
I don't know enough about computers to know whether your recommendation makes sense for me or not. 😔
How the heck was that mousemat floating??? I have to buy one now!
They're made from Tech Jesus' Kundalini yoga mats :D
The power of miracles. You do not see his Samson level hair? That's pure holy power, baby!
“See Jimmy, you’ve broke it already! That’s why we can’t buy you nice things”
Press F
My girlfriends parents bought the IBuypower Creator Kit and the specs were awesome but it blank screened the monitor and threw VGA, swapped in my 980ti that worked and still threw a VGA. had to send it back after multiple tests and throwing literally every light one after the other.
The screws on the case were destroyed and one of them was loose on arrival. I swapped in some extras I got a while back because the screws were legitmately useless. The Lian Li case uses longer thumb screws to secure the glass panel so my extras couldn't even fit.
I didn't pick up a pre-build, but I did get a custom Ibuypower computer from the site. Mainly this was to get my hands on a RTX 30XX series card and I could use the computer as a secondary. It did have issue when it come in and I had to remount the 120mm Radiator to the rear exhaust of the case. I thought the screw just came loose during shipping, but if that was the case then I should've been able to throw it back in and tighten it down. That didn't work as they use two of the 6-32(5MM) screws for the fan and two of the 6-32 Radiator(30MM) screws for the radiator. Why they just didn't use 4 of the 6-32(30MM) Radiator screw for all 4 hole through the fan to the radiator is beyond me.
This caused it to be crooked and I just used extra screw I had around the house to make everything uniform. Next, someone left a radiator screw in the case, as it didn't go to anything I could see and wound up in one of the front fans. Missing the HDD rack sleds to put in 2.5" to 3.5" SSD/HDD, Missing Wifi antenna and luckily that was it. I did try to contact customer service about the Sleds and Wifi antenna, but been about a week myself and nothing. The last time I dealt with an Ibuypower system was my dad's computer he bought from them and after the warranty from them was done the motherboard started having issues.
Not a big deal, not only did I pick out a new board for him, but a Fractal Design R4 case and new PSU(Fully-Modular). Transferred it over and it's been running great since. He still has it and has got another computer with a Ryzen. Really need to setup the older computer to emulate older windows so he can use some of his older programs that he would love to use again.
Personally, beyond using SI to get a GPU, I rather just dismantle the system and rework it into something that looks more pleasing. I prefer building my own computers and if it wasn't for the fact of how hard it is to get a GPU I would steer clear of Pre-builds and SI always. For now it just everyone is at the mercy of either pay high prices from scalpers, Pre-builds, or SI. It would be nice if we could have some signs of a normal market next year, but as it stands we'll be lucky if things are better by 2023.
I don't understand how these companies are managing to be THIS BAD at what they do.
Making computers is *literally* their business.... and they're f*cking terrible at it. I need a change in career where I can make millions doing something as poorly as possible.
They outsource to other companies. Used to work at Ingram Micro back in the 90’s and they bought a company that setup and configured all Dell and HP internet and online orders. You wouldn’t believe all the shit that happened. Just grabbed any memory or hd off the shelves.
This isnt an issue with all their pcs. It has to come down to who is actually building the computers. I bought one from them last year with literally zero issues.
This isnt an issue with all their pcs. It has to come down to who is actually building the computers. I bought one from them last year with literally zero issues.
thats the level of QC id expect from a bottom of the barrel wish deal. i guess they saved cost by just firing their QC department and using interns to build everything.
I used to build for IBP, the problem I would say they had was they focuses too godang much on how many PCs u can build a day rather than how good u can build them
Hey man, if being negative means putting these crappy products on the spotlight to help people avoid getting ripped off, then I'm all for it.
I bought one a few years ago. Aside from the aio being noisy and replaced… it’s been running fine.
Question do you guys have a review on NZXT prebuilds I’m planning on buying from them and wanna see if they are good
That "testing" sticker means something specific in terms of FCC testing, though it's now optional to put that sticker on. When you build an electrical product that doesn't intend to send out radio waves (like wifi), you have to spend a lot of money going to an FCC test lab. If it's an "intentional radiator" (a wifi dingle, or some other type of radio), you have to spend even more at an FCC test lab. But if you're just assembling a product built out of components that were individually tested--intentional radiator or not--you can just promise that it's compliant and move on.
I'd love a wifi dingle lol
JK
The more you know
These companies are a joke. If QA is too expensive to implement at these price points then they need to charge more for their systems... Even if by just a little.
Or just don't give executives $50k bonuses every Sunday and they should be fine
this is the reason why I think it is always a good idea to crack the side panel of a computer that was shipped just to make sure something didn't come loose.... I personally haven't had an issue, but then again the last prebuilt I bought was about 5-6 years ago
Last year I actually bought a custom prebuilt from IBUYPOWER and the quality is night and day to this. It was well packaged, came with hard copy of instructions on how to set it up, no issues with build quality on the pc or the keyboard and mouse, bios for xmp and ram was properly configured, cable management was good, and I have not had any issues in a year. I’m led to believe that they don’t have a good quality control for these prebuilts that go to retailers versus the custom builds, or I was just extremely lucky. I’d love for you to buy a custom pc from them to compare quality control.
GN team: *starts posting reviews of prebuilt PCs*
Literally every prebuilt PC brand: "Guess we're screwed"
One of the issues here is a lack of screws, so idk bout that
@@AnEverydayZombie the took the screws out of the pc to screw their own work probably
Think it was Maingear that did well in Linus' testing, so maybe they will do well here too.
Maingear will do well they've always done extremely well in terms of support and the overall package it might cost a bit more but they really do make a compelling package especially now that the market is all screwed up and they actually come in at a cheaper price than if you were to go out and buy the parts themselves unless you can get the parts at the non existent MSRP.
Good way to prevent users from plugging into the onboard video.
Although not ideal at all for a higher power system, it made sense in this system (well, only because of the case they choose). The front had plenty of airflow through the sides (the middle hole was not the main airflow) to have 3 big and slow fans keeping a nice breeze going through the whole case at low RPM. The back of the case has airflow holes (again limited) and a big fan. Not ideal at all, could be done way better, however, it works. Also, computers in the past often didn't have such open side panels. Air would come in one small fan area, and out another. They work in different ways than a more open system that is more seen nowadays.
it needs love! a good home! - I'd love to see a video on buying two systems such as these - and making one 'good' machine and one 'bad' machine from the parts? maybe buy a cheap stick of memory for the 'bad' machine to use all the memory in the 'good' machine - maybe putting two discreets into the 'good', using onboard for the 'bad' etc etc
This really makes me sad. Having started my working life in the 80's, I was always told that the customers were the most important thing to take care of. They were the reason we had a store to sell things and an income to live on.
These days it seems that most retailers strive to be just a little bit better than the customer at making items to sell, and then making them pay a premium for that feature.
I sure hope you find a company that actually earns the money that the customer had to earn in order to pay for the product.
Thank you for the content you provide, and as an electronics tech, the depth of coverage you go into. You and your team are rare in today's coverage and you don't use that as an excuse to do a half-ass job. So I truly thank you for this.
Many companies have figured out that the buying process of most folks is clicking "Price: Low to High" and buying the first result. It's a damn shame.
Reputation used to matter but nowadays there are too many marks to care if they take money elsewhere (bonus points if they happen to take their scorned dollars to a different company that is actually the same company under different branding)
@@Skyhawk1998 This. Even against all common sense "lowest bidder" is always the gold fucking standard. We've had water plants built that cost millions to manufacture and they gave the design work to the lowest bidder only to find out the plant doesn't work and you now have a 4.2 million dollar tax payer funded monument of failure. At a certain point people need to start getting fucking fired for always going the cheap option. Even Apple goes the cheap option, but charges like this stuff is expensive and it's sickening.
"Caution: Hazardous area."
I think that label should be on the outside of the shipping box.
I bought 3 fans for my ibuypower case, i will put them in top do i use 2 as exhaust and 1 intake or what? And where do i place each one.
Btw its great vid.
I bought a pc fm Best Buy with this case the computer works fine and it’s nice to know I can take the front panel off
You know shit is getting real when Steve pull's his hair back lol
"What's wrong with buying pre-builds? Stop shaming people!"
... This. This is what could go wrong.
And ppl who don't have past experience can fuck up a PC just as bad lol.
@@reynutz thats why there are so many good tutorials to assemble a pc nowadays...
@@Derpkips31415 Tutorials dont always cover everything. Even the best always seem to skip over little things experienced people already know all about which defeats the purpose of the video tbh.
I don't think iBP used to be this bad. I saw that early in the pandemic they were having to cut back on support due to Covid and shifted to discord and I wonder if now they are trying to ramp back up or upper mgmt want to keep costs down and profits high. This might be the kick in the nuts they need to out some money back into QA and Tech support. Having been in a big company tech support myself I can tell you it's a constant struggle to convince new CEOs we are a good investment and they all keep making the same stupid mistakes.
@@reynutz So it’s doubly worse - not only are they risking getting garbage or broken shit, but they will have no way to even understand what’s wrong.
I went from 0 PC building knowledge to experienced builder in 6 month with just learning online. There’s no reason why someone would not able to do a build competently with just some effort.
Would love to see a review for Skytech's pre-builts.
I actually got an iBuyPower a month or so ago, was pleasantly surprised. Had the foam packaging, easy start guide, and nothing was damaged. Maybe I got lucky. I did order from them directly though, not from a store.
Just got one for the black friday sale and it came basically perfect. Might be because i got a $1700 unit but who knows.
@@Daedalus33 i was about to buy the same one lemme ask you questions about it
@@mindofmannyy sure
@@Daedalus33 I bought one from them as well, worked good for about 2 weeks then the PSU died randomly during a stream..PC hasnt turned on since and im debating either sending it back or just upgrading the PSU on my own. everything else looks to be in excellent shape, no damage whatsoever.
Just for anyone else looking in the comments. I also got a system from them with the same case but upgraded components for about 1400 and everything came in completely fine and I have been very happy with the look, sound level, and thermals.
Pre-build makers don't even care anymore. They know they're just selling a GPU bundled with a computer.
Yeah, its like bundling a cheap PSU with the graphics cards on Newegg.
My grandpa got me a 3070 for my birthday bruhhhh he said he went into the computer shop (micro center) and just asked for one and they brought it out like....I tried to get one for 3 months and he randomly goes 2 days before my bday and picks one up lmao he got the gigabyte one 😂
Awesome grandpa you got there
Things like this really make me wish I lived by a Micro Center
congrats bruh :D
What a boss
Guess he got lucky 🤷🏻♂️
Props to whoever did the mousemat hero shot at 2:07. I can't figure out how they pulled it off.