How You Can Be More Like Jesus: Romans 12:9-11

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  • Living out the 8 character traits in Romans 12:9-11 is how you can be more like Jesus. We are constantly being called to live a more Christ-like life and to allow God to transform our attitudes and actions. In preparing this Bible study I found that my own life was changed and it made me really excited to share these wonderful truths with you!
    Romans 12:9-11 has a very serious character challenge for us. It reminds us of what kind of person Jesus really was and what type of person a Christian is supposed to be.
    If you want to do Bible study, verse by verse through the whole book of Romans then just follow this link. • Book of Romans Overview
    This CZcams channel is dedicated to thinking biblically about everything. Check out my playlists for tons of content on theology, controversial issues, evidence for the Bible, verse by verse teaching and more. New videos on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday at 5pm PST.

Komentáře • 135

  • @laeeer
    @laeeer Před 3 lety +30

    Thanks Mike, I was praying for just such a lesson, Isn't it great that through a CZcams video 3 years ago, You're still sharing God's wisdom. Becoming one of your biggest fans. God bless

  • @GrannysSacredSmokes
    @GrannysSacredSmokes Před 5 lety +44

    Wow Mike this hit me hard to the core! In all my 63 years I've noticed that sin is usually skimmed over other than the preachers pet peeve. Thank you for this powerful teaching as per usual. I listen to you daily because you are a rare teacher who is honest compassionate and not afraid to really get to the truth of the matter, that is hard thing to do in this politically correct world we live in . I appreciate you teaching what we truly need to hear whether we want to hear it or not because we really need to hear it! God bless you and your ministry.

  • @I_luv_Min_soooo_mych
    @I_luv_Min_soooo_mych Před 3 měsíci +2

    2:08 - Let love be without hypocrisy
    11:53 - Abhor what is evil
    18:25 - Cling to what is good
    25:05 - Be kindly affectionate to one another
    29:34 - Elivate others before yourself in honor

  • @detective6099
    @detective6099 Před 6 lety +23

    Heart changing video Brother Mike.
    I love you mike
    I'm not as righteous as you and none of us is as righteous as Christ but brother I'm troubled.
    I pray abba father conforms us in to the image of his son the Lord Jesus and we please and do the will of the father and cling to him just like Jesus and always be glorifying Christ unceasingly.
    Mike I'm troubled brother but I love you thank you for this video praise God I needed to see this.
    From the top to the bottom of my heart
    God bless you my Mike.

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  Před 6 lety +31

      In all honesty and without any false humility I can tell you that I fall so far short of the full calling of God upon my own life. But I still press on toward the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. What cheers me and sets me constantly on the path to following Jesus better is the sure knowledge of the abundant grace of Christ. He saved a wretch like me! If you are troubled then I pray its the kind of troubling that brings you swiftly to a remembrance of God's grace and back on your feet following Jesus with a clean conscience. God bless you.

    • @detective6099
      @detective6099 Před 6 lety +8

      Mike Winger I understand brother,
      I know this is odd to tell you why I'm troubled in a comment section but I've seen the love of Christ in you and maybe you can voice your thoughts on this.
      If not no problem brother, you as a brother to me no matter what you do is always a joy to my heart.
      I'm troubled because of spiritual attacks brother Mike,
      I love praying to the Lord and the more I pray the more severe the attacks like: troubling thoughts anxiety, temptation, fear, distress all at the same time.
      Nevertheless praise God with every ounce of us he created
      Joy and love always be to the Lord.
      And my love I send to you Mike always
      God bless.

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  Před 6 lety +18

      I’ll pray for you. And what little advice I can offer is to carefully study the book of Philippians, especially the 4th chapter.

    • @detective6099
      @detective6099 Před 6 lety +10

      Mike Winger Noted.
      Love you Mike your my very heart
      God bless.

  • @caroleimani9754
    @caroleimani9754 Před 3 lety +3

    My Christian friends need prayer because they found out their son has. using drugs for about the last year. He has had racing thoughts and rapid heart ❤ beat. He is going to "in-house" treatment for 45 days.
    He is also having trouble with alcohol. I would appreciate you praying with me. His name is Stephen.

  • @HiVisl
    @HiVisl Před 4 lety +6

    10:00 I get what the lady is saying. Churches, especially traditional churches, are scared of emotion. You can't be free or emotional in these churches. We've all been in these churches. I completely understand this woman's point of view and I can relate.

  • @abbafatherswarriorprincess3627

    So blessed by your teachings, brother Mike! Even though I only get to watch it two years later. Hahaha! Always relevant!

  • @NTCCWoodbrook
    @NTCCWoodbrook Před rokem +1

    I just found this teaching and it is SOOOO GOOOOD! I truly appreciate the personal stories and how you include plenty of Scripture references to reinforce your points. I am a pastor and could just play this video for my Bible Study because you are spot on and I simply say "Amen" to what you have shared. The Truth is so attractive and needed. Thank you Pastor Mike!

  • @LifeDanceWithJesus
    @LifeDanceWithJesus Před 5 lety +21

    This was “A WORD” my Brother!! Double edged sword! Love it! I am going to listen again when I can take notes! Can’t wait to hear the rest. God bless you!

  • @yvonnehedeker3441
    @yvonnehedeker3441 Před 3 lety +2

    This teaching was one of the most refreshing and renewing for me. Bringing home what the Lord wants from us and that is best for us. Really got me to think more deeply of the application of His Word in my life. Excellent. Much here to review, reflect on, and pray for assistance in my walk. Thank you for this focus.

  • @Sadielady1978
    @Sadielady1978 Před 5 lety +9

    Romans 12:9 is my favorite verse.
    Had it tattooed on me when I was 21.

    • @jesecabenalevu2360
      @jesecabenalevu2360 Před 4 lety +1

      😂😂😂😂😂 with permanent ink?

    • @brandonow82
      @brandonow82 Před 4 lety +2

      The bible tells you not to get tattoos

    • @jacobgarcia4826
      @jacobgarcia4826 Před 4 lety +5

      @@brandonow82 Read that verse in context, friend.

    • @michellejohnsen912
      @michellejohnsen912 Před 3 lety +1

      @@brandonow82 revelation 19:16

    • @caroleimani9754
      @caroleimani9754 Před 3 lety +2

      Not getting tattoos is in the Old Testament. I think it was part of The Law. Paul said that we are not under law, but GRACE. But I still think getting tattoos is not a good idea for a Christian. This is just a personal opinion.......

  • @heatherlucero2530
    @heatherlucero2530 Před 6 dny

    Thank you God for speaking through Mike 🙏🏻

  • @jahunmoayedzadeh9194
    @jahunmoayedzadeh9194 Před 2 lety +2

    Can you start doing these Bible sermons again?

  • @Cyberfender1
    @Cyberfender1 Před 4 lety +11

    Solid preaching. Biblical. ouch! (in a nessasary way) My problem is Me.

  • @irinaferguson8618
    @irinaferguson8618 Před 3 lety +3

    Make, thanks again, it's much deeper as usual we hear!

  • @debbietarantino3831
    @debbietarantino3831 Před rokem +1

    Thank you, Mike! I really needed to hear that! I’m going to mark those verses in my Bible! I’m learning so much from you. You really make me think. God bless you, your ministry and your family.😊

  • @lindawarner7496
    @lindawarner7496 Před 2 lety +4

    Wow. Always so enlightening. Love your sermons

  • @emsdiy6857
    @emsdiy6857 Před 5 lety +8

    Thank you I think your a great pastor

  • @jessehendrix2661
    @jessehendrix2661 Před 7 dny

    I think there is some truth to the idea that we Christians are often known more for what we're against rather than what we're for. When I first started getting serious about being a Christian, it was pretty clear what I shouldn't do, but I wasn't really all that sure what I should do. I had been told to read the Bible, pray, and be honest, but that was about it. That's what's great about passages like Romans 12:9-21; they give us clear direction on what to apply ourselves to.
    Imagine if you wanted to lose weight, went to a gym, hired a personal trainer, and they told you, "just stop being lazy and eating too much." While it's necessary for them to point out that our habit of watching 5 hours of Netflix a night and eating half a pack of Oreos a day is part of the problem, they also teach us how to make exercise part of our lifestyle, which foods we can eat to stay lean, etc.
    Nature abhors a vacuum, so as teachers, whenever we tell someone what not to do, as a general rule we should also tell them what to do instead. Here's an example of Paul doing this in Scripture:
    "Therefore, putting away lying, speak the truth, each one to his neighbor, because we are members of one another." - Ephesians 4:25
    "Let the thief no longer steal. Instead, he is to do honest work with his own hands, so that he has something to share with anyone in need. No foul language should come from your mouth, but only what is good for building up someone in need, so that it gives grace to those who hear." - Ephesians 4:28-29
    I think if we do this, Christians will begin to have more of a reputation of, "those are the guys that give what they own to the poor and needy, are honest even when no one is looking, and do what is right, even though they believe that their God forgives their wrongdoing."
    But let that not be an excuse for anyone who would say that trying to live a godly life is legalism. As believers, we're not saved by good works or damned by wicked ones, but you would have to be fooling yourself to read Scripture and think that God doesn't care about conduct. In fact, look at this proof text they'll often give from Ephesians:
    "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." - Ephesians 2:8-9
    That's all you'll see from someone who wants to justify an ungodly lifestyle, but look at the very next verse:
    "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them." - Ephesians 2:10

  • @ScotchIrishHoundsman
    @ScotchIrishHoundsman Před 4 lety +3

    I’ve been listening to your podcasts at work for a few weeks now and they’ve really helped me. This is the first time watching a video and seeing what you actually look like, lol! From just listening to your voice, I thought you were going to be clean shaven and have longer hair 😂🤣😂

  • @allthethingsyouwillsee1081

    Thanks Pastor Mike

  • @jkpow93
    @jkpow93 Před rokem +1

    Love the explanation of zeal! We know zeal without knowledge is not good, but He makes us zealous for good deeds! We are indeed a peculiar people lol. Oh, to be set completely free of our fears and every fleshly thing that entangles us! (Heb 12, 1 Peter, prov 19).

  • @garypostell5268
    @garypostell5268 Před rokem +1

    Amen 🙏 Thank You! Very eye opening instructions life changing !

  • @sarahpaty6108
    @sarahpaty6108 Před 2 lety +1

    I have suffered most of my life from being a very fake person, and also hating myself. Do you know where I can go to get help? I just want to face my fears and accept my deserved consequences

  • @josefwilliamgardiner-jones552

    Thank you for your video Mike. As relatively new to the faith I found this very helpful

  • @godswordsaves7673
    @godswordsaves7673 Před 6 lety +10

    love your teachings brother. God bless you.

  • @gustavocruz2321
    @gustavocruz2321 Před 10 měsíci

    Wow I absolutely love the "its easy to respect unknown people" , I believe we should see others as Jesus sees them! If God gives second chances, why wouldnt we?
    Thank you for this great content! May God Bless you!

  • @JustKate43
    @JustKate43 Před 5 lety +8

    A year ago? It popped up in my CZcams feed today, I guess I was meant to hear this message. 😍

  • @billyknoxx304
    @billyknoxx304 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks,Boss. Needed to hear this

  • @BennyParcher
    @BennyParcher Před 3 lety +2

    i really enjoy your videos bro

  • @ericrussian1202
    @ericrussian1202 Před 3 lety +1

    amen pastor

  • @patchooo84
    @patchooo84 Před 8 měsíci

    Worship Jehovah, The Father like he ( Jesus ) did both on earth and after being raised up... John 20:17, Revelation 3:12 Matthew chapter 6

  • @InspiringTheology14
    @InspiringTheology14 Před 6 lety +4

    Love the new intro. Great video as always.

  • @sylleryum
    @sylleryum Před měsícem

    Thanks Mike, very good

  • @emsdiy6857
    @emsdiy6857 Před 5 lety +3

    Thank u mike

  • @Be_Nice1200
    @Be_Nice1200 Před 6 lety +1

    I like to think of the Golden Calf story as one of adultery: Imagine working hard for your wife, and putting up with her unlikable tendencies. Then she gets another man, and says "this is the man who's provided for me" and decides to lay with him.
    Imagine how angry or upset you'd get after all you've done for her, and she just takes another and not only gives him the credit, but "worships" to that degree.

  • @geef0813
    @geef0813 Před 3 měsíci

    Is it hypocritical to do the loving thing because you are trying to do right even when you don’t want to? Is love an action or an emotion? How do you know the line between hypocritical actions and trying to be loving when you don’t “feel” it?

  • @BennyParcher
    @BennyParcher Před 3 lety +1

    do you have any videos that explain what is considered sin

  • @Lillaloppan
    @Lillaloppan Před 3 lety

    Thank you 👍😊!

  • @TheIndecisiveWigWearer
    @TheIndecisiveWigWearer Před 3 lety +1

    Amen!

  • @michaelmosier9027
    @michaelmosier9027 Před měsícem

    Either that was Brad Paisley at the 19:53 mark or he has a look alike at your church.

  • @lasthour1961
    @lasthour1961 Před 2 lety

    In Deuteronomy 28 we are suppose to obey all God's commandments (ten commandments) and statutes.
    Does that mean going back to all the laws of the Torah 612, statues I believe....

  • @kevinstreeter6943
    @kevinstreeter6943 Před rokem

    I had the same problem as him of waiting for the one epic moment of serving God. I wonder if this is a common problem. I think we get this from people saying He has a plan for us.

    • @g--br1el985
      @g--br1el985 Před rokem

      Yeah i was thinking today like that.

  • @goesthadistance
    @goesthadistance Před 3 lety

    Thank you.

  • @davidjenkins2429
    @davidjenkins2429 Před rokem

    ❤❤❤

  • @JenniferJane78
    @JenniferJane78 Před 6 lety +12

    It is hard to find churches that don't practice paganism.

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 Před 5 lety +3

      could you please flesh this one out....a little...

    • @haroldfisher7528
      @haroldfisher7528 Před 5 lety +1

      @@philipbuckley759 i think he's talking about holidays.

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 Před 4 lety

      @@haroldfisher7528 oh, my.....thank you.....

    • @HiVisl
      @HiVisl Před 4 lety +3

      Dressing up as a ghost or monster at Halloween doesn't mean you're worshipping the occult or the devil. If that were so then if a non-Christian wears a cross at Easter, it means they're worshipping Jesus.🤔

    • @JenniferJane78
      @JenniferJane78 Před 4 lety

      @@HiVisl it would depend I suppose if one believes in the old testament or not. If a person don't believe in the Torah, than yes anything goes. As for the cross, it has more Egyptian origins than Jewish origins. Cross was not used just for the killing of Jesus but of many before and after him.

  • @csmoviles
    @csmoviles Před 4 lety +1

    Аминь

  • @devindavis4845
    @devindavis4845 Před 2 lety

    At around the 11 minute mark, you quote a commentary. Could you share who you’re quoting?

  • @edwardlongfellow5819
    @edwardlongfellow5819 Před 3 lety

    Cole
    What are we expected to believe of Jesus, Cole? Will he forgive our, but only if we believe in him? Adding conditions to love is not an expression of love but the handing out of favour to those who bend the knee, True love sets no conditions it is freely expressed.

    • @michellejohnsen912
      @michellejohnsen912 Před 3 lety

      There's mercy and justice, not just mercy. To love is to not wish anyone ill, not to let them act evil without justice. Justice is love and so is mercy. Not one without the other. That wouldn't be true love. We all have impacted others around us in negative ways sometimes. Not necessarily on purpose but should we just act like we have no accountability for our actions because we are "loved". That view of love is not based in reality. It's like the heretical hyper grace teaching. When we grieve the holy spirit and choose to do evil, the holy spirit is not supposed to flee? If I am repulsed by something, do I not want to run away from it? The love is not lacking on my part or anyone else’s, including God. God hates sin. I hope this was helpful.

    • @kevinschaefer3945
      @kevinschaefer3945 Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@michellejohnsen912 Hi Michelle. Sorry to butt in. I've tried reasoning with trolls like Mr. Longfellow numerous times and, in the end, they are unable to understand sound argument, nor are they even willing to. This is because the problem is in their heart, not their head. The only thing we can really do is pray that the Spirit changes his heart and softens it, that he might humble himself and see his neediness. I will do so now and in the future as God brings him to mind. I ask you, along with all believers reading this, to please join me.

    • @michellejohnsen912
      @michellejohnsen912 Před 2 lety

      @@kevinschaefer3945 amen brother, God bless you 🕊

    • @mallorypagan6770
      @mallorypagan6770 Před rokem

      Who are you to tell God, the literal creator, definition, and epitome of love, what love is and isn't?!

  • @johndownes7580
    @johndownes7580 Před 3 lety

    Re Ananias and Saphira’s deceit , would they have been aware beforehand that their act would qualify as being a sin against the Holy Spirit , especially if that was the only unforgivable sin ?? This is scary if not.

  • @teddinixon9375
    @teddinixon9375 Před 5 lety +1

    What do I d if I have found myself in NAR church?

    • @iw9338
      @iw9338 Před 4 lety +1

      Praying for you as I have gone thru the same like 6 months ago. I'm grieving the loss & thankful that God opened my eyes. Check out Melissa Dougherty & Justin Peters. Many are going thru the same. God Bless.

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 Před 4 lety +2

      if it is not Biblical....er....leave....

  • @kiluahborbon1790
    @kiluahborbon1790 Před 4 lety

    Been watching your videos. I wonder if you started your bible study in Genesis.

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 Před 4 lety

      he has a slew of videos.....some in Genesis....but cant find Genesis 1

  • @rosieds4996
    @rosieds4996 Před 2 lety

    Is the second half of this study somewhere?

  • @JTRBASKETBALL
    @JTRBASKETBALL Před 2 lety

    Is there access to a video or audio recording of the rest of the 27 traits?

    • @b.tilson5198
      @b.tilson5198 Před rokem

      I'm just getting ready to watch the next video in this teaching series, and I believe it will be what you're looking for. It is #40 in his series on the book of Romans. If you search "Mike Winger Romans" it will come up with the entire series in order. I hope this helps.

  • @user-xt1zf5gk7l
    @user-xt1zf5gk7l Před 3 měsíci

    My Name is Ji HongChao!~……Who is Willing to Pray For Me?

  • @truthwatch2858
    @truthwatch2858 Před 6 lety +5

    I was called legalistic by one of my pastors for following the Bible

  • @user-xt1zf5gk7l
    @user-xt1zf5gk7l Před 3 měsíci

    My Name is Ji HongChao!~……Who Can Help Me?

  • @philipbuckley759
    @philipbuckley759 Před 4 lety

    all activities, as unto the Lord.....doing away with the secular, spiritual distinction....eh....

  • @jamesjahavey1681
    @jamesjahavey1681 Před 6 lety +1

    Truth is arrived at by answering difficult questions like why is there no word for cross in the Greek and the Hebrew bibles when speaking about the execution of Jesus or criminals?

    • @PistachioChicken
      @PistachioChicken Před 6 lety +4

      What is your point James Avery? I can offer a rebuttal to what I think you're suggesting. Remember that Truth is a person - His name is Jesus Christ. (John 14:6) We are capable of being deceived by anything else - including 'straw man' attacks on the Word of God. I also hear the contrived argument that - because the word 'Rapture' is not in the Bible (they are ignorant of the Latin Vulgate - and isn't ignorance so often the issue?), it is a false doctrine. The particular word doesn't matter if the concept is there, for goodness sake. The concept of the Rapture is all over Scripture, OT and NT. IMHO, people who attack a concept by attacking a specific word are offering a fallacious argument for the purpose of casting doubt on all of Scripture. What does it matter if the word in Greek is 'cross' or 'stake'? Jesus hung on it, died and rose again to pay the price for your sins and mine, so that we wouldn't have to. And BTW, Truth is not "arrived at" by answering difficult questions through the application of our own fallible human understanding.
      My kids used to say to me, from time to time, "Hey! That's not fair!". I would always respond (kidding, and not): "
      Hey! You tell me who told you that life was fair - and I'll go beat them up!"
      I would give the same response to you James (not JAH) Avery regarding your concept of how you arrive at truth...

    • @jamesjahavey1681
      @jamesjahavey1681 Před 6 lety

      I do not arrive at truth by getting wild over a matter I arrive at truth by looking at the facts set before me for example the Hebrew sais in this case cursed is the man hung on a tree, and in the Greek it sais 'storos' a single piece of wood. Jesus name is spelt with an X in Greek 'Xristos' ok That is why the Pope has an X and the keys of Peter on his robe, but he adopted the other cross so that those worshipers of Tammuz would feal commutable with the New form of Christianity that he was inventing for Christians, do you still do Christmas?

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 Před 4 lety

      @@jamesjahavey1681 what have you discovered, in your search, for the facts....

    • @michellejohnsen912
      @michellejohnsen912 Před 3 lety

      YHVH name of God, expresses the name Jesus in hebrew word pictures.
      Y= yood = hand
      H= hey = behold
      V= vav = nail
      H= hey = behold
      " behold the hand, behold the nail" is the meaning in God the Father's name.
      This is in regards to Jesus as our salvation in His sacrifice on the CROSS.

    • @mallorypagan6770
      @mallorypagan6770 Před rokem

      @@jamesjahavey1681 except none of that makes a bit of difference to the point of the gospel

  • @zeomarmob
    @zeomarmob Před 3 lety

    NO, if you’re bowling then your not saved…

  • @mysticmouse7261
    @mysticmouse7261 Před 3 lety

    Scary and pointless pietism

  • @jamesjahavey1681
    @jamesjahavey1681 Před 6 lety

    What is the wages of sin death, or hell? Where is hell in the bible?
    Romans 6:23
    .For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.
    Have you read the New KJV yet?

    • @mrhartley85
      @mrhartley85 Před 6 lety +1

      James JAH Avey
      You seem off topic

    • @jamesjahavey1681
      @jamesjahavey1681 Před 6 lety

      Sorry about that but I like the topics you choose it is your KJV indoctrination I find some times it deforms your reasoning I was brought up KJV so I know where you are at sorry

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 Před 5 lety

      sounds like someone could do a word study....on death...

    • @Zilam
      @Zilam Před 5 lety +1

      @@mrhartley85 He is off topic on every video. Seems like a troll or a person with a grudge. Not someone intent on having conversation.

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 Před 4 lety

      @@Zilam who knows.....I have been labled, the same.....

  • @edwardlongfellow5819
    @edwardlongfellow5819 Před 3 lety

    Why would any person who has studied the Gospel ever wish to become like Jesus?

    • @BigDawgCleveland
      @BigDawgCleveland Před 3 lety +3

      Because He was righteous, the Holy Son of God, our teacher, He chose to lay down His life for our sin, He is God in the flesh! He paid for MY sin... We strive to follow Him, try and be like Him because He first loved us. He loved God.

    • @edwardlongfellow5819
      @edwardlongfellow5819 Před 3 lety

      @@BigDawgCleveland
      Jesus righteous? I feel that to be a most contentious issue. He proclaimed that love was the second greatest commandment yet favoured the beating of servants. Laid down his life? I'm afraid you are in error. Being arrested, tried and executed for treason is not an act of laying down one's life.
      And how can a man who died two thousand years ago take on the responsibility for any sins of persons yet unborn? And what great sin have you committed that it cost Jesus his life?

    • @michellejohnsen912
      @michellejohnsen912 Před 3 lety

      @@edwardlongfellow5819 have you read the Bible? The sin was passed down by Adam to all his offspring. This is in Genesis. When sin entered, death entered. God made us to live forever, but that was lost in the garden. Partly because of Satan's lie and Eve choosing to believe it. To get back a chance at what was lost, eternal life, Jesus (God with us) came to be the ransom for all mankind by His perfect sacrifice on the cross. He was born of a virgin and came to earth, specifically to "lay His life down ". He picked His life back up and resurrected. I hope this answered your questions. God bless you 🕊

    • @edwardlongfellow5819
      @edwardlongfellow5819 Před 3 lety

      @@michellejohnsen912
      Hello Michelle, I have actually read the Bible and my study of the written word differs quite substantially from your own. It cannot be accepted by any measure of fair play that an innocent person should suffer punishment for another persons offence. Punishment should not be carried down as a burden to rest on the shoulders of the innocent to carry.For that is not justice but a travesty of justice. If there was ever a sin committed in the Garden then who was the sinner? Who placed temptation before the two naive fledglings Adam and Eve? The answer is of course God. He placed temptation in the form of a tree and took Adam and Eve to view it. God was the instigator of curiosity and of sin. Curiously you make mention of Satan as a presence in the Garden and of Lying to Eve. However, there is no mention of Satan in the story of the Garden. And while there another presence in the Garden it was a being referred to only as the Serpent-and it spoke no lie! God had warned the Couple that on the day they partook of the fruit of the Tree they would die.But they did not as the Serpent correctly informed them.
      May I add that I am somewhat bemused by your “Jesus came to be the ransom for all mankind by His perfect sacrifice on the cross.”
      A ransom is a sum of money paid to a captor in order to obtain the release of a captive. Jesus on the other hand was arrested and executed for an offence against Rome.

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      @michellejohnsen912 Před 3 lety +1

      @@edwardlongfellow5819 Good morning Edward, there's alot to cover here, so this won't be as short as I would like.
      Revelation 12:9 gives light to who the serpent is. Also words can have nuance and not just one rigid interpretation. There are many different writing styles contained in the Bible. Some of it is poetry or symbolic for example. Most of it is literal, although fantastic, it's still literal.
      Ransom is not always in regards to money. Money is paper we place value on.
      Gold and silver are of different value. Human life is far more "expensive " than can be covered with paper money. Especially when it is including ALL human life. It is not unjust to be holy and have holy standards. Jesus made a free will choice to become that ransom because He had the sufficient worth to do so. A hero chooses to put their own life in jeopardy to save another human life. This is in no way unjust. It's one of the most beautiful things in existence. No one can deny the selfless act of a hero as being the pinnacle of character a human can have. Mankind literally had no hope to regain relationship with God the Father or His intended eternal life for us. Jesus as part of the God head, understood this completely. Due to His love, He chose to provide a new covenant in His blood. A free gift of eternal life offered again for those who choose to be part of the new covenant.
      To "test " or "prove" something or someone, is not unjust. If I created a smart phone and wanted it to be waterproof to a certain depth and timeframe, would I need to test it to make the claim of it's being waterproof before I try to sell it? If I have integrity and want to sell a quality product then, of course, I need to test it.
      God wants to offer eternal life to those who have passed the test. Is that somehow wrong to only want what is good and throw away what is bad?
      Satan always speaks some truth and mixes lies into it, otherwise it would be too obvious and not as tricky or clever.
      So the truth Satan spoke to Eve was that they would know good and evil if they ate of the tree.
      The lies are:
      He said they wouldn't die.
      Not in the very same moment or day, but death "entered" in. It became part of the "DNA" from that moment on, and passed to all offspring.
      The doubt of God and saying God was a liar, was another lie. God is truth, He doesn't lie. So Adam and Eve chose to doubt God's character and believe Satan. Thereby, giving Satan legal "reign "over them and death.
      Satan lied when he said they would be "like God ". No matter how much knowledge we have, we will never be like God. We are creations, God is our creator.
      Jesus's ransom also won victory over death and now He has the keys, which Satan used to have, so to speak. Captive to sin and death no more if we believe in Jesus. Jesus will "unlock" our prison and the "truth" will set us free.
      Yes Jesus was arrested and crucified by the Roman government. Jesus couldn't climb up a cross and commit suicide, suicide is a sin. Also, the Jews rejected His claim to be equal with God and said it was a lie. That's what they had Him killed for. Only it was the truth, and they killed someone innocent. Pontious pilate said he found no fault in Jesus. Pilate fulfilled his duty in government and proceeded with the execution.
      Jesus did not try to talk His way out of the judgment. He stayed silent when pilate asked Him to defend Himself. He was willing to die for our sins. He made a new covenant, in His blood, in which mankind can have hope to regain what was lost in the garden of eden. It's a free gift of eternal life to those who believe in Jesus and want to be with Him forever.