DEI ROME: THE FIRST 10 TURNS! - Rome 2 Divide Et Impera 1.2.8 Faction Guides
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- In this video I’m going to run through my guide to succeeding in your first 10 turns as Rome in the fabulous Total War Rome 2 mod Divide Et Impera!
This is the first video in a series that will eventually cover most if not all the factions in DEI because I love the hell out of this mod, there are lot’s of new players and I know many of you have requested these guides as well so many birds are being hit with one stone.
Divide Et Impera Rome 2 can be brutal to the newcomer, even when playing OP factions like Rome, you really need to know how to deal with the political system, your neighbours, public order, everything! The smallest oversight can lead to immediate as well as future issues.
I hope you enjoyed this video guys and found it helpful. If you did give the video a like and absolutely drop your thoughts and any questions at all!
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00:00 - Intro
01:42 - Turn 1
11:01 - Turn 2
13:45 - Turn 3
18:50 - Turn 4
20:58 - Turn 5
22:56 - Turn 6
27:26 - Turn 7
31:36 - Turn 8
35:37 - Turn 9
38:21 - Outro
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Check out the next faction guide covering the first ten turns with Epirus! - czcams.com/video/O6EEcKc_2HQ/video.html
Hey bro do you know how to upgrade the Roman units ? Any help would be great ?
I am surprised that higher tier settlement buildings are actually giving you food. I just tried Divide Et Impera and now for me at least, upgrading the settlement buildings actually costs food.
Also, buildings like the fishing port have squalor penalties which you don't seem to have. Did they add it in a recent patch or is it some bug I have from one of my other few mods lol?
I checked and I supposedly have DEI 1.2.8 as well. (Steam version) How come I am still getting Public order penalty from garrissioning generals in the cities?
How did you not get attacked by epirus on the first turn or did you cut that out? Also how did you start off with a governor and an agent without having to recruit them, or did you cut that out aswell?
The Terminator: How do you find, down load Divide Et Impera???
It's interesting how DEI basically flipped Vanilla on it's head with the Roman start. In Vanilla it's basically the tutorial faction to start with. But in DEI it's one of the most challenging of them all.
Indeed! Great work by the modders imo. Might look at doing Epirus next!
Huh? I find a lot of other starts more difficult
Yeah Carthage slaps your ass with endless fleets and hidden armies
@@mrbouncelol Feels like fighting off Zombie hordes. Captured Qart Hadasht my first Roma game, and fought for 10 years back and forth around the city. Had multiple wars and bad luck and could never properly fund the armies to destroy them. Although the city was eventually properly Romanized.
@@ANWRocketMan so a long lasting slug fest like the actual Punic Wars? Love this mod so much.
I'll be playing as the "Ekeets" - TheTerminator
The Romans are rolling in their grave with that one lol
Hahaha I know, I facepalmed after the recording :D :D
To be fair, the way English has butchered their language, I think they were already rolling.
Thanks man this helped immensely. I've been playing Attila and even rebuilt the Western Roman Empire, but DEI seems like a whole new challenge. Pyrrhus was more aggressive with me but I managed to eliminate him. Now I can build my economy and eventually spread the good word of the S.P.Q.R.
Diplomatic missions need some fine-tuning in my opinion. Felt like there was a 1 to 10 ratio of positive-negative outcomes. Doesn't help that each failure is like a negative 8 to your diplomatic score. Also, its a head-scratcher when your diplomat gets his ass killed by a faction you have positive relations with.
Agreed, and it's absolutely mind boggling when your diplomat dies on a mission with that positive relation :D :D
I sent my own faction member on that mission. MY OWN BLOOD and he betrays me. I was like.. OHH. YOU LITTLE SNEAKY MODA FOKA! 🤣
I have found a way to eliminate Epirus and Etruria in just 5 turns give or take. It’s a lengthy explanation but here we go! For everyone struggling with Phyrrus, this is for you…
Note: I am using all DEI mods plus the newly released Revised Grand Campaign Beta.
First Turn: Move your army in Cosentia as far north as you can, don’t bother recruiting any units. I typically disband the entire force besides the general. The upkeep on the units is not needed. Second, move your general in Beneventum north to Roma. Recruit 5 Principes, 6 Rorarii, 2 hired Samnite riders (if available otherwise use Equites), and the rest leves/slingers if you prefer. (Recruiting will take a couple turns). Before ending your first turn, raise a fleet in Asculum, take the trireme and recruit 3 of the raiding boats (lowest cost and upkeep). Use the remainder of your money and the extra from trade deals to start building up Latium. End your turn. (Also recommend recruiting a governor)
Upon ending your turn, Epirus should move to attack your army from Cosentia, retreat them, they should go right out of Epirus’s move range. This also causes Epirus to not recruit mercenary riders on turn one for some reason, and on turn two they should attack either Beneventum or Cosentia, but you will win using auto resolve (even with just a garrison).
At the start of turn two, move your fleet down to the midpoint of Taras and Apollonia, this will cause their army in Apollonia to attack your fleet once you end your turn. Trust me, set all your ships to ram and target separate vessels and you will win. Boom, one army gone - on basically turn 2. Next, move your army that had retreated from Epirus to Beneventum and start recruiting leves and Rorarii. Continue recruiting in Roma for your fight with Etruria. End your turn when you’re satisfied with your purchases.
Heading into turn 3 Epirus will sail their army from Apollonia and attack your fleet, do as I described above - do NOT autoresolve. Epirus should also attack either Beneventum or Cosentia, again auto resolve will win you the battle. Watch where they retreat to so you know where to go. Continue recruiting.
Starting turn 4 you should have Epirus on their heels, and in the most ideal scenario, they will send their army in Italy to attack your fleet! Too easy! Sink them like you did with their other army. If they don’t go for the fleet however, just keep recruiting low tier units and attack Taras. Most of the time they will go for the fleet though. By this time you should be ready to attack Etruria. I strongly encourage having hired Samnite riders, but if you’re a skilled general Equites will do. Fight the battle manually. They usually position their troops in the trees in the center or the map on their side. Skirmish and then send in the heavy troops. Use your cav to deter theirs. With a little bit of skill and luck, you will have eliminated both Epirus and Etruria in 4-5, possibly 6 turns.
For an added challenge/benefit, let Epirus keep Taras to keep the water going and delay Carthage declaring war. In my current playthrough, I’m on turn 85 and no war with Carthage. I was able to let Epirus take Cosentia while I took Taras and Athens took Apollonia. Easy profits there, beat them into the dust and either secure Magna Graecia or make them a satrapy/client as a buffer when the war does break out - or just use them to create a hardened army.
I have 1k hours on rome 2 dei and this is the first time Ive encountered the turn 2 boat strat lol TY
@@johnaaisa5179 You're welcome! Works like a charm lol I'm happy that after a year someone confirmed it worked for them!
@@coltonrhodes882 ima try it rnnn
@@coltonrhodes882 so far so good jus destroyed an entire army by ramming them😭
@@biccey6585 Good stuff dude, literally, if you can manage, letting them take Cosentia and keeping them around (they will surprise attack, but no elite units) then Carthage will not declare war. Let's you build up, research and attain new lands/units to prepare for that slugfest - and a slugfest it is indeed. Taking all 3 settlements on Sicily will generally keep Carthage in Africa, but they will still be a menace at sea. I recommend conquering Greece, or at least Macedonia (port city cant remember name) or Athens. Build your fleet of Quad or Quinquiremes there and take the fight to em. Sailing with transport ships, the AI looks at that as a huge army (even though they could just ram tranports) and will run away. Makes landing at Carthage easy. Though once landed in Africa, be prepared for stacks of Carthaginian troops and allies coming from the west from Spain. The corridor to the west of Carthage is where they will enter from and is naturally an easy choke point to bog them down. Rest of Africa is a breeze, especially if you can ally Eqypt and have them guard your east flank.
I have 1200 plus recorded hours of Rome 2 in steam and yet I can learn new tactics from you and have fun with this new updated DEI mod!!!
Just keep it you bro!!! We shall always support u!!! ❤️
Man this is So Helpful to me. I saw your video about DEI and I just downloaded. I played the shit out of both Rome total wars growing up and I'm so pumped to play this. But there's so much I didn't know where to start so this vid is great I can do what you do to get a feel for it
Awesome! Glad it helped mate :)
Just when I take a healthy break from DEI you drag me back in.
Thank you! 😃
Haha you are very welcome! :D
Thanks a lot for the video. I'm returning to TW series after almost 7 years hiatus and I told myself to try this mod and your videos were very useful.
Hell yeah man! Glad you enjoyed them and to have helped 🙏
I always wanted to get into this mod and I found it to be kind of overwhelming. Now I decided to come back to rome 2 and give DEI another try and actually try to learn all the new mechanics.
Thank you for this. I was so frustrated, not making any money but I knew so little and there is sooooo much information in these games. I sincerely appreciate this I’m doing so much better now and not focusing on just bolstering my army and building army camps.
I love you :)
It was beyond my expectations! I learn a lot of tricks with your guide, thank you so much. Between my last comment and now, I have restarted my campaign 3 times after a hundred turns or so, because I was messing up some crucial mechanics (diplomacy, politics, buildings, character builds... etc... there is so many things you can do wrong in this game)
After these 3 * 100 turns, I figured some of the things of your guide myself, but I still learned some very interesting adjustements and tricks.
If you want to push it to turn 20, and also show up some real battles, be my guess :)
I'm still struggling with siege battles. I suffer far too many casualties, so I guess I'm doing something wrong again :)
So glad to hear it mate! For now I’ll be making guides covering the first 10 turns but may look at expanding in the future. TBH passed the end of this video the world’s your oyster, you could go either way. But I may make a video about how to take on Carthage 💪
@@TheTerminatorGaming yeah do a video in how to take on Carthage
I'm in the 80th turne in my first experience with DEI and looking at your campaign I realized the mistakes I made at the beginning, even having already zeroed an entire campaign with the same Roma (vanilla). It looks easy watching your video lol. Congratulations on the content.
This was really helpful so are all your videos. I used to play Rome Total War then Medieval Total War years ago but married life and kids took over. At the start of lockdown for Covid got into Empire and Napoleon TW. Could never take to Rome 2 think it was the awful-looking unit cards and a lack of battles. DEI just seemed too overwhelming but your video helped me get a start. Now I'm engrossed, lots of challenging battles it's great. Thanks a lot
just want to say as a person who just started playing dei. i think your content is great from the download guide and dei tips and tricks vid it really helps new players.
I appreciate that mate! and welcome to the DEI family! You've got hundreds if not thousands of hours of enjoyment ahead of you :)
I always feel the first 10 turns are the most crucial in DEI.
They are! and even more so for Rome I think. Though there are a few other factions that have equally if not greater an initial challenge
Let's see the first 10 turns with Wars of the Gods and also the Para Bellum mod. Would be interesting to see how the Ai plays out.
I wouldn’t even bother with recruiting hastati. I always have a reinforcement army in defense stance when I play this mod. Have your main general lead your lighter troops and missiles, cav, and have reinforcing general have your ground pounders, the heavy infantry, all 19. That way they get the extra melee defense bonus. It is perfect for siege, especially when you have artillery to open up breaches in walls. Keep in mind when doing this the enemy may try and rush you, so deploy near to where your reinforcements are coming from.
Combat advice. When you have heavy infantry in a special formation, use your units mass to push into the enemy lines. The alt move command is great fro line battle commands. Be sure to have flanking elements when doing this, as the ai absolutely goes for your flanks.
This is a great guide. As Rome I used to fail on turn 1 quite often!
These vids are gonna be fabulous dude, great job
Thanks bud!
I’ve played vanilla RTW since the original. Only recently did I discover mods and holy crap are they so good. Rome has gone from being easy/moderately challenging at times to I am on my 8th Rome save because I keep getting wrecked.
Most excellent! Thank you :)
I was under the impression that the supply system treats your capital as already having a supply pit, so no need to build one in Rome.
it could be really nice to have a video about all the buildings and the bonuses each province gives you for maximum profit!
What about that order bonus with army in the city? I have steam version, in workshop it shows me 1.2.8 version and if i move army in the city, i'm getting penalty.
Love it.. gained a subscriber
Thank You bro you got another sub and like
At 15:50 I don't think you were supposed to be able to recruit Legionarii Capite Censi, they're only unlocked after the Marian reforms.
Oh fair enough I’ll let the guys know!
@@TheTerminatorGaming What units should be recruited instead?
Love the idea of 10 first turn gameplay
Thanks bud :)
Wow I just learned the hard way that this guide is outdated , both startings enemies are stronger and more agressive!
thanks a lot, this is so helpfulll
You can eliminate Epeiros really quickly by parking a fleet with 3 support ships right outside of their city on turn 2. Don't move the army in Beneventum or else Epeiros will move to attack it, and you'll have to actually fight them. Do that, and the AI will almost always move their army out to sea to attack, where you can ram them right into Davy Jones Locker. Park it in-between Taras and Apollonia and you can take out both of their armies before turn 3. After that the only thing protecting Taras is the garry, which is no match against your troops.
20yr total war vet here lol. I just started another DEI campaign as Rome 2 days ago on Very Hard and got SPANKED by Epirus and Syracuse by turn 8. I couldn't recruit fast enough after my 6 stack army + garrison at Beneventum held off a full stack and a half during the siege.......only to be hit by Epirus the following turn lol. LOVE IT! So....I started another and have thus far gotten to turn 13.
You don't miss with these videos.
Good stuff bro
The upkeep for your fleet is probably more than the money you get fpr the trade agreements. Also 1st turn you can get trade rights with almost all known factions and get money with it too
Eck-we-tay is the proper pronouncement. Love your channel!
Gahha I know man I’m biting my fist about how I pronounced it here 🤣🤣
@@TheTerminatorGaming small mistake…your knowledge of history and strategy is amazing and your channel is awesome!
Awww thanks bud :) I wouldn’t say my knowledge of either is as good as some other youtubers but I appreciate it :)
Definetely need to give DEI another try soon!
Definitely mate well worth it :)
Was really struggling on normal. Did this, and yes didn’t work out exactly the same but gave me a foothold to kick on with
Hello Terminator, at 7:10 you said that in update 1.2.8 having an army in the town is now actually beneficial, but on my campaign I still get public order penalty, do you know what is wrong with my game? The mods is currently up to date and I don't have any other submods installed.
Yeah, I have the same problem
Not sure if it's changed in 1.2.8. There's a submod called "No garrison penalty", I use that
the best thing bout DeI campaigns is that you dont just snowball into unbeatable after 20 turns
Lol. I came here because i fail again and again in my first DEI Campaign as Rome . I have set it on very hard as i was used to do in the vanilla one xD At 1:31 Thx haha
I'd just like to say that from ALL the Total War CZcamsrs, you have one of the friendlist/uplifting voices.
Aww my guy! Thank you :)
@@TheTerminatorGaming That LegendofTotalWar guy per example seems completely dead inside/half psycopath and every single video of his is completely bereft of emotion and 'etiquette'. I only watched him for essential videos, the same with MELKOR and GudeaTW as they talk in an extremely boorish manner and need to be listened to at 1.25x speed.. but I find myself watching your videos simply because of you being you! :D
Thats very kind :) I love Melkor but I get what you mean about the enthusiasm. Glad it comes through!
Interesting……
Think I’ll try this Mod tonight
Punic Wars deserve a video of it's own. Carthage is gonna turn on you sooner rather than later. I still don't know how to deal with their medium armored elephants. Tried siege equipment, slings, cavalry and pikes. Nothing worked yet.
@TheTerminator May I suggest using the AAA generals mod? one of my favorite ones - gives a lot of flavor to the game in a way that it is really missing
Thanks for the suggestion mate, and I do actually use :) I'm not sure if it's 100% compatible with the new update yet though
Long live the EKEETS! 😂✌️, Kinda new here be gentle with me. good channel. 👍👌
Thanks bud :) More to come!
The ledgie-oos from the ekkeeetes fitin hopleetees
😂😂😂
Were there some big changes lately? In my playthrough putting troops in my settlements gives a public order malus, and there's almost no latin culture in italy. I also don't have a spy or a dignitary
Something's wrong, Legionari Capite Censi is a Marian Reforms Unit, you should not be able to recruit it this early
It is entirely possible to take Taras in turn 2 and Epeiros in turn 3 using two capital ships (those with 2 towers) and 3 support ships.
Did 1.2.8 remove the army garrison in cities/towns public order penalty? I know there is a sub-mod to remove the PO penalty, but base DEI makes you fortify outside of cities.
I'm pretty sure they did!
Have my subscription
Would you make a video about Divide Et Impera Alexander's Campaign Submod?
this really needs an update
I like playing on very hard difficulty but reduce battle difficulty to normal. To really feel the attrition
Awesome, can you do Eperios next. I can't seem to get very far with them in 1.2.8
Well actually Epirus may be next ;)
@@TheTerminatorGaming Ah excellent. Since the beta playing as Epirus, Syracuse, or the Getae has just been an exercise in futility for me lol
Ah DEI
A classic mod!
But why would you ever train hastati? They are in the same population class as the principes and the principes are a little bit more expensive but more worth it or am i wrong?
I am starting to get this mod. It takes a while.
I recently played a lot of DEI and I think phalanx units are way too strong and op in this mod. Playing as Rome i use legionaries as some flanking dudes and phalanx mercenaries (hoplites) as "main" line because they just simply hold the line and do not die while I do some flanking maneuvers etc. What do you think ?
Thing is, yes Phalanx units are incredibly good at holding a frontline, I wouldn't say they are OP because every other area is a weakness to them. Get a cav unit to charge it twice from behind and it will start losing a lot of morale and suffer casualties.
But if as you have done you get decent infantry to flank around the enemy while you keep them pinned with phalanx then you will almost always win your battle against the AI, even when heavily outnumbered.
Pikes are completely impossible to enjoy against the AI, its simply too easy. I really with they would make them viable to beat in a frontal assault. Perhabs making them strong early in the fight but weaker as the enemy breaks down the formation.
What are diffrences between easy and normal difficulty? First time DEI.
Can you mention which mods for DEI still work (ones you have turned on other then the 1,2,3 packs)? Also how do you know how much to demand for trade agreements and from whom?
Hi mate, not sure which ones are compatible yet I'll have a look around and include a snippet for it in the next video! EPIRUS NEXT!
1st off, exceptional vid. Now, what got me here was during my first playthrough with DEI, (and in fact after only 35hrs in TWR2 vanilla) , was a problem with "Sanitation" as soon as I took Taras, and because I was researching mostly Military, I was properly fooked with an Aqueduct coming in at no less than @10 turns. I also had the Public Order problem with the Province, so game over. It was great to see how you side-stepped that issue. Or was I just unlucky? Would be great to see a vid on managing city growth further on in a playthrough.
In terms of a future "First 10 Turns", I'd personally love to see how you play a Brittainia scenario! Now I'm off to Carthage's First 10 Turns! Cheers~
Sanitation is pretty straightforward if you get the building built. The penalties aren’t severe enough to prioritise imo. I wouldn’t say I side stepped it I just don’t think it became a problem at all. Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed the video! ❤️
@@TheTerminatorGaming Thanks for getting back to me. Ok would Sanitation become a problem if it was more like 20 turns till I could place an Aqueduct? Cause I'm about to restart my playthrough and I don't want to get "caught with my pants down" about Sanitation ever again. Wait! Did I just say that??
😂😂😂 What’s causing the squalor in your cities?
Also feel free to join the discord we can chat there as well more directly
@@TheTerminatorGaming Really I have no clue -- too new to the game and particularly DEI. Where should I be paying more attention?
2024 not anylonger that way because Phyrros attacks Beneventum in Turn 3
Really usefull one! Thanks for this guide :) It helps to don't get lost in such a large game at the begining (I have just installed it). One thing that I can point out: since english is not my native language, some words and phrases were truly difficult to understand even with translator. One example - I really struggled to understand what does mean "you can just wing it" (15:56) cause google translate it as "encircle" or literally "wing it" so the army can fly ("oflankować" or "uskrzydlić" in Polish) but I guess from the context that it should be understood as "you can don't care" (not sure if that's correct tho). It might be a minor thing from the perspective of anglo-speaking authors and viewers, but I'm sure that there are lots of begginers, whose English language skills are at a lower level than mine, so they would have significant problems with understanding the content. All the best and thanks again!
Hey no worries man! And yes by wing it I mean you can do whatever you want it won’t make a big difference :)
I don't seem to have any agents on my campaign map, do they need to be mustered from somewhere? (I'm playing as Julii - DEI - the mod now in 3 parts from STEAM workshop)
Latest versions changed a good bit.
Is defensive stance when autoresolving always the best option?
this public order thing with the armies in the cities has changed in 1.3 again right? I have done as you said in this video,, put them in the city but it gave me an penalty. Or is it another mod, that i use, breaking dei?
Yes it is
I always play on Very Hard cuz I like suffering, haha. Almost every faction declares war on you within 1-5 turns.
What mod did you use to increase your unit sizes?
thanks for the tips and tricks, I have a hard time playing DEI especially when it's hard hehe...
Glad you enjoyed it :)
Is the mod still available? I can’t find it on steam, only the new revised grand campaign beta submod
Rorarii spam is the way to go
The New DEI mod brought back the Family Names at the start…. No more Patricians, Plebs, and Ekeets,
I reinstalled the mod several times wondering what was wrong until I realized it.
More influence in the senate isn't good though? I like to keep my percentage about 37% that will give you the best boost. Right at half. having to much influence has to many negative effects for it to be worth it.
I make peace with Taras asap. Once they are out of the way so to speak I can put my full forces onto other things and win much easier.
hey man i just have a quesgtion. is there anything you did in order to get trade agreements so easily? i always get declined for trade agreements. on this video you got many so easily. im jealous haha]
Terminator my Rome DEI starts with a 1 front war to the north and 5000 in the treasury, any idea why?
Hey Terminator, I'm interested in playing DEI for the first time myself. Would you still recommend this 10 turn guide?
It is not up to date I would not recommend it.
looking for DEI guide myself, this guide is severely outdated. you'll die to epirus if you follow this one
that little fleet costs at least 500 per turn and I always get attacked by the random pirates
Are there any changes you would make for the 2023 version?
I still incur a public order penalty when an army is garrisoned in a city. Does somebody know what is causing this?
I keep getting rolled by Carthage by turn 12-14, how do you guys have time to attack the north before Carthage decides to wreck you??
What is more challenging to play DeI Campaign on Normal or Legendary ?
Well Legendary 😂 but depends on your experience. Normal can still be a hassle for some people
Did they add the diff types of Roman Legion? If not its still a no for me.
I'll stick to Wars of the Gods mod.
How do you raise armies and start to move
I first played DEI on legendary. I lost a campaign for the first time in TW history, and i've played A LOT. The odryssian kingdom united thrace and illyria and invaded italy navaly while i was completely preoccupied with carthage
Ekeets 😭😭😭😭
I love DeI, but I just can’t stand the endless loading times when loading a saved game or the loading screen after a battle. Also, my laptop with decent specs suffers from stroke every time I end my turn.
Yeah fair enough, it is a thing with most big mods to be honest, I just go make a tea whenever I finish a battle :D :D
DEI needs a SSD to work properly yeah
@@TheLEDkiller I’m already running in SSD
i tried 3 times on very hard and failed ending up before turn 15 by war at all sides
Hi i'm TheTerminator and today i'm gonna show you how to play on Normail without any AI fighting back.
Terminator is the right name, yes-yes.
This strategy doesnt work anymore. 1.3 made the ai much more aggressive and more OP.
You need two full stacks to attack Etruscans at start, two full stacks to attack Epitus succesfully
For real. I’ve had to restart several times cause Epirus wipes me out after I deal with Etruscan.
do ya have very hard version of it ?
Have you made on on Armenia?
Me: presses first research square and ends turn. 😂
How do you have marian units on the third turn? I think your game is bugged
Can you do a 1.3 version?
Literally starting 2nd turn Epyrrus attack Benevatum
Are these still valid in the new 1.31 update? Or should I look elsewhere?
I doubt it to be honest. I might do a new first 10 turns series
@@TheTerminatorGaming Yeah, a lot has changed. A 1.3.2 update of this would be really helpful.