Divide Et Impera - The Best Mod for Total War: ROME 2
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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2024
- Today I'm sharing the best mod for Total War: ROME 2 - Divide Et Impera by Dresden and his team. Divide Et Impera adds population, supply lines, rebalances combat, adds reforms and more. It's an excellent mod, and is the best mod for Total War in the last 5 years.
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"The only good Rome II is the Rome II with DEI enabled" - Plato.
”...It is the ideal Rome II”
😂
Plato was Greek, I believe you were referring to Cicero.
so what? plutarch was also greek
How to have the mod? Just sub to all on steam?
Now I have to reinstall Rome II, look at what you've done!
It's worth it trust me, it's almost like playing a new game.
Same here Bro... Goodbye 8h sleep policy...
Did you do it? How is the installation? Easy to do?
1234kalmar it is easy just a few clicks on the workshop to subscribe on :)
Im mad why can‘t such mods be on attila
Dresden is freaken awesome, some serious dedication, no idea how he does it. Hats down.
He probably meant hands.
Meem, nah, Chris Campbell got me, hats off : D
Oh.
English is not my native language, so every now and then I might make a slight error like this one haha
> *watches the first 10 minutes*
> *pauses and opens up Rome 2*
> *proceeds to download this mod*
Than get to play 20 min and the game crashes for unknown reasons so you spent hours troubleshooting forums on the internet with no solution haha great time waster 10/10
@@tha3dudes
Oh, mine was fine.
@@lentoturmahub8214 gonna try and install the 8 part instead of the new 3. Perhaps it'll be me more stable
@@tha3dudes
Good luck!
same XD
" I might do an "Essential Guide" if this video does well! "
Please do!
heres my essential guide steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2237412566
I had a mythological campaign in-scale using DEI playing as Epirus. Commanding Pyrrhus, who in reality waged war against Rome and was related to Alexander through his mother's royal Epirote blood, I gave him victory, taking Rome and the peninsula as he wielded Alexander's sword as a household item. The best mod experiance for Rome II
I guess antiquity was a figment of the imagination.
Thank you for this. I've just started using DEI within the last week and have found myself overwhelmed with the new features.
I might do an "Essential Guide" if this video does well!
@@RepublicOfPlay DO IT
Do it please.
That would be great!
RepublicOfPlay Please do!!
While I haven't played vanilla Rome II since this mod came out and I generally agree with what you said, I can't help but notice you have overlooked some stuff.
The AI as you said is not able to use features that it was not designed to, so in fact it doesn't use the population system. That means you can never starve an enemy out of manpower. In turn if you ever raze or sack a settlement you are only hurting yourself in the long run.
Since CA changed the agent skills DEI hasn't updated the unique skill tree they had for them so all the while you play you are choosing skills that don't correspond to the actions agents do and some are outright broken.
We all know the AI handles it self poorly on the campaign map in vanilla so DEI implemented some major bonuses to it, but in the process made it imune to everything. There is no action one can take to make it suffer starvation or low public order and in turn create a rebelion, or even go bankrupt. You could wipe the floor with it and raid its lands and 4 turns later it is back with a full stack.
Don't get me wrong - this is the best mod for Rome II. But a review should mention the bad with the good.
oh wow, if I doesn't even use the pop system then it's kinda pointless :(
@@jkahgdkjhafgsd I wouldn't say pointless. It adds another layer of immerssion and difficulty. But unfortunately while a great idea and flawlessly implemented it ends up being a handicap.
Still, I hope CA take notice and implement it in some way in future titles.
man, MTW2 with ETWs replenishment mechanics... why the hell did they scrap both? >:/
George Gerov you are right, but I don‘t think this is meant to be a review, more like a recommendation to try it out.
And funny enough, the next update will fix the skills and traits for agents and characters. I thought the work on the mod had grinded down to mostly making it playable with every following update. I am happy to see development is still going forward.
This is amazing. Why isn't the standard game like this?
Because Creative Assembly is a shell of what they once were. They have more talented artists than talented coders these days.
CA would consider this far too complex for the almost mythical 'wider audience' they've been trying to appeal to with recent games. I know the term 'dumbing down' is a bit trite at this point, but feature stripping and oversimplification is something we've definitely been seeing, and it's a damned shame because this mod is a perfect example of the kind of functional depth Total War games could (And arguably should) have.
The shittiest part of it is that we all know that modders will eventually make their games more appropriate for the portion of the audience that desires this kind of thing, so they don't actually lose out on profit which is the only thing that would spark any kind of change.
you got that mod how many years into the game?
Also, like it or not the sales numbers would suggest the "wider audience" is accessed. by CA. TW us simply not a niche product anymore. Shame maybe, but also the curse of success
Coders don't make the gameplay. They build what they have been told.
CA lacks proper historians and designers, as well as good managers. The ones who are responsible for the gameplay itself.
What they don't lack is marketing department and people who buy their unfinished products.
It's a shame CA are just pumping out games without any of this depth. This mod.. it looks amazing. Well done.
Why should they? People buy their games anyway.
Profit is most important
You gotta play Paradox games if you want a grand strategy game with such and even more depth
@@thespartanagiad it is entirely diffrent game. The depth of fighting in a ck game is literally non existant lol. You could aswell said you should play dwarf fortress or rimworld for truly indepth game.
I would like such depth in a game but I believe they refrain from adding it to their games because of their unused clientele that just discovers the game and is not interested in something too complicated.
IMO, DEI is the only thing that makes Rome II still playable for me after 5 years. I've played about 12 campaigns as Rome throughout the years, and each of them was different thanks to DEI and all of the overhauls that they've had. If this mod wasn't for free, I would pay the full game price to buy it. And as for difficulty, yes, it's harder than the standard game. But after all these years of playing vanilla, blitzing through half of the map in the first 10 turns, don't you want a fucking challenge?
Amazing mod. I'm the type to play only on very hard or legendary. And when I first played this mod as the fool I am, I started on legendary... I lost. Then I brought it down to hard. And my war with carthage lasted for almost a 100 turns. Felt realistic as fuck. Got addicted to this mod!
I’ve gotten pretty good at this game too and DEI was like playing for the first time again. I even tried some vs campaigns on dei but never got to complete them for different reasons. 1. Time commitment. 2. Opponent wasn’t that good or something and wasn’t buying the new mechanics. 3. Even with a good opponent we sometimes both would end up losing before even getting to each other. Best mod but I really want to play with another person.
The better ai is freaking amazing if you want a challenge
Its practically a requirement if you want a challenge. The AI in vanilla no matter the difficulty is painfully passive.
I totally agree. Modders put a lot of effort into it, making it more challenging, fun and various.
If you play the vanilla version with Rome you can declare war on everyone at the same time and it's like taking a stroll in the park nearby your house.
Hands down, one of the best mod I've ever tried
I've had this game for 4 years and played 600 hours and yet I never heard of this mod, but it looks awesome, thanks
EwNex I played this mod after my first campaign which was 150 hours and it was like playing a new game. Breath of fresh air. Idk how you made it that far.
Watch his review videos more. They are the best
Wat?? I think I played 1-2 vanilla campaigns before I installed dei and never looked back. This was a long long time ago, shame I haven’t been able to play much recently.
Idk how you have never heard of this mod. In my mind this is equivalent to saying you’ve played twwh but have never heard of mortal empires.
You should have it and another 200 hours what you would be spend
lol i bought attila 3 years ago and i have 1500 hours
Thanks for the video, the team sends their regards. We certainly appreciate that people are still enjoying the mod this many years on and still having new people come to it to take a look. - Ivan_Moscavich, Campaign Systems and Gameplay Design
u guys rock
huge pp
Seriously, Creative Assembly should of given you guys AT LEAST %25 of the profits made from the game.
That presentation really urged me to play Rome 2 again.That population mechanic reminds of EU4 and MTW2. Hopefully Attila could have a similar mod as well some time.
Ancient empires for attila is developing their population mechanic and supply system i highly recommend you take a peek at what they are doing
@@Sam_Guevenne But it 's ancient empires, not late antiquity.
Ancient empires is really good... but idk why they are spending all that time and resources to make something that basically already exists.
They are using the superior total war thats why (other than shit optimization). :)
Just started donating on Patreon, it’s only right that others do to this is an amazing mod and the team deserve some form of reward equal to or exceeding what the steel faith team get.
Same!
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Love your content Darren keep the good work ! It is always very qualitative. Thank you very much!
Great review as always man. People like you and the modders make CA games bearable and bring out the best in them.
Divide et Impera is a masterpiece. been playing it since it came out on rome 2, well done featuring it.
A real revelation! This is how it's supposed to be done. Great work! Really love the attention to detail. Especially the "The year in history" briefings you'll get every turn.
DeI is amazing. Thanks for doing this video Darren.
Description for the "rightful sovreign" commander trait: "I am the Senate"
Would love to see you flesh out more of the features. Been playing this mod for over a year and it’s still a challenge at times. Keep up the good work!
Fantastic video mate, I've played DEI since release and thought this described the features really well.
I haven't watched anything of yours before but the quality of this video means I'm going to check out some of your campaigns.
Love you Darren, a true hero of the community
I agree 100%
All hail the modders of Total War! We salute you!
Im so glad that this video appeared in my feed randomly, i dont think i have been that excited to play rome 2 for such a long time after watching this video, it bring so much more things to play with in the game instead of playing for 100 turns and just winning everywhere thanks!
What an incredible breakdown of this mod. This is a save video as a reference from now on for this MOD. I thank you.
I really want a Game Of Thrones campaign Mode but damn CA made the map impossible to mod...
Hopefully their next fantasy venture is into the game of thrones universe :)
The GoT mods for Europa Universalis 4 and Crusader Kings 2 are great but the paradox games are ofc something totally different to TW
Why? Ancient warfare doesnt fit GoT at all because it's medieval fantasy.
@@kana22693 You either haven't watched GoT or you haven't been keeping up with the latest Total War games.
...or both.
GoT? Boring. I want Lord of the Rings Total War. THAT would be epic.
This is amazing and if just a few people could make this happen why couldn’t CA. That you for making this video
Thank you for showing up in my recommended. I'm excited to check this out! Rome 1 was my first game back in the day and I've bought every one since. When playing Rome 2 I just always breezed through it and it just felt lacking. This seems really interesting and how Rome 2 should have been.
Must say, gave Divide Et Impera a change due to your campaing videos and I like both Rome 2 with the mod and without it. But the care that the developers put into the mod and how they keep updating it is truly dedication
Thank you for this spotlight Darren!
Worth mentioning, DeI has also probably the most extensive animation overhaul for Rome 2 mods as we have added even wounded and dying soldier animations for melee units and fully deleted infamous "heart attack" kill animations, not to mention culture specific combat animations. For those interested, please see two videos below:
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czcams.com/video/iJheAcKALEs/video.html
I love how complicated the mod sounds but how simple it plays xD
I also found really cool both you and I found ourselves stuck in Illyria. The Illyrian War in my case was a devastating one for all of the GrecoMacedonian region. Both my Romans and the "Close-East Block" had to fight constantly till the point my 2 Legions stood strong enough to make enemy armies not only weak but poor in quality. The slow expansion to the east was possible thanks to the constant sacrifice of 3 Legions in the end. The 2 main Legions (The Liberatrix and The Dominatrix) had to help each other but when the third one came in, it was basically over for the Block, as this Legion, the Illryan, was founded on the east but replenished in Italia, meaning that my Principes were more than ready to finally put an end to Illyria while the Dominatrix could finally rest and be reinforced. When peace was achieved, i droped myself over Macedonia and left Athens and Sparta alive. I eventually moved to the north against the Dacians and Thracians, but this war was not as hard as the first one. Later on, the presure in the West was stablished by Massalia and Carthage, who were in a Cold War. I helped several Barbarian Tribes to weaken both sides, but Massalia was unstoppable. That was my call.
Carthage saw the move and fought on both Shores and Land. The War Was Over shortly after.
My expassionism caused quite good damage to this 2 Legions fighting on the Gaul (note these are not the same 2 Legions from the East, it saddens me not to remember the name of them.
The Gauls saw the new Threat, Rome, so they summoned a few more Tribes to attack, but my West Legions fought them back, and took more land till peace was stablished.
Carthage on the other hand, took some territory i wanted, plus, they didn't see me with good eyes on Iberia, where a Third West Legion was starting to fight.
The Carthago-Roman War was simply terrible. 2 West Legions were stranded in Iberia. 1 in the Gaul because of the preassure of the Navy and the Gauls. 2 more Legions (The South Legions) forged in Rome started their campaign in Sicily to secure more income and closeness to Carthage. However, food and gold were running extremely short, leaving the war at a stalemate status. Yet Carthage had the Naval Advantage. For years, Carthage kept on damaging the settlements and even reaching Italy with a few secured positions, but one final card was used. The Greeks.
Athens, which was helping somehow, finally got it's fleet close to Carthage, where my weak fleet fought closely to the Athenian, finally securing a path for my South Legions to reach Africa. Carthage fell, but the Nubians kept helping Carthage, and the union of this force proved brutal against me. Eventually, a third Legion, the savior of this war, reached Africa and fought Carthage back enough to reinforce the other 2.
The War was over, but after all this years, a massive threat, worst than all others combined emerged. "Persia".
I don't specifically remember the name, it was something like Atrakopactan or something.
The problem here was that, during the war with Carthage, a super power rose in the East, the Bosporean Kingdom, which was ready to expand to my Thracian regions. Back in those days, a rebelous city decided to start it'own faction, and called itself the "Cimmerian Kingdom". I helped themto fight the Bosporeans from within as the Bosporeans had an never ending wave of low quality armies which proved uncapable of defending the Pontic Region (Pontus). As i stablished there, the Bosporeans attacked till they had nothing more to offer.
As i conquered their main city, the Cimmerians conquered what was left. For a short period of time, the Cimmerians were strong, but as the Persians moved in, the dream was over. The Cimmerians asked for help, so the war was on. Most of the world was against the "Persians" but the numbers where a problem... and even worst, they had an "Indu" ally which sent hundreds of units to weaken me. The War was long... but worth it.
thx cool story 2 read cant wait to finally get home and play the mld myself!
Great story
@@khairulhadi5545 thx! Much appreciated!!!
@@lucky-lu6tc thx a lot! The mod got harder but it's still a new feeling every time u start a campaign
Never stopped playing the vanilla, but this simply HAS to be tried.....Many thanks, well worth a sub.
I've been playing DEI for a good chunk of time since the new update. 4 minutes into the video, I learned about a new mechanic. (clears up a lot of random population headaches I got when I disbanded units)
Thanks for the video and keep up the good work!
Rome total war 2 with this mod and rome total war music mod is the best total war in the genre so far. No doubt! Plays almost exactly like rome total war in terms of battles but is just much better in depth on the map.
This mod took me awhile to get used to. There's so much added it can be a bit overwhelming. I suggest anyone new to this mod to start with an easy faction on normal difficulty. I'm on turn 200 of the new Indian faction. This mod has transformed Rome 2 into my favorite historical tile - stealing me away from TW Warhammer Mortal Empires.
I loved moving pops in Rome one, excited to try this mod. Great video!!!👍🏻
This guy deserves so much more then he's given. I can taste his passion and his love for this project. 10/10.
Dei with this game is just amazing.
A lot of these features are just changing Rome 2 into Rome 1. So there is literally no excuse for SEGA and Total War to not already have these implemented. The game is meant to be a successor to the original game but actually omitted several features that made the original great.
What, you didn't notice this in Empire, Napoleon or Shogun 2? They've been dumbing these games down since. Medieval 2 was the last good Total War game..
Excellent overview and explanation of key DEI features. So glad Dresden and his team continue to get the credit they deserve! Hopefully your video will inspire more people to subscribe to the mod and support their patreon page
Thank you very much for this vid! I wanted to play DEI but the first time I was a bit overwelmed, now I undertand it a lot more!
Thanks for this, it's a mod I never got around to trying. I only realized after checking just now that even without DEI most of the mods I had were also from Dresden: Traits, seasons, turns per year etc etc. The guy deserves so much credit.
only mod I've seen on this scale was in Shogun 2.
And what mod it was (In Shogun 2)?
master of strategy, really fun and (I guess also including stainless steel for Medieval 2?) its definitely up with DEI for amount of features.
He is one of the few good modders who really bothered with TWR2...many of the old skool modders who made the most famous Rome mods have been totally dissapointed with Rome 2, including myself, and never felt compelled to really start doing great overhauls
what mods do you use to improve the graphics of the game ? Becourse the grafics in your video seems much better then in vanilla
No graphical mods
One of the best videos around about DEI...well done sir!
These guys are unlike any modders I have ever come across, I had the pleasure to work with them for a time, and they are extremely dedicated to the mod and are great guys, i'll also add they are far from finished, they have done things that some people were saying would be impossible in the early days, nothing but respect for the DEI team, can't play Rome 2 without it.
I just don't understand the supply system in DeI. One big submenu per army, where the supply situation is listed would be ideal, instead it's scattered over several tiny icons. Makes it hard to understand and not very user friendly. This is not a knock on the modders, I think they had to wotk around the hardcoded limitations. It's the main issue I have with DeI. Ancient Empires for ATW feels a little more user friendly to me.
I haven't played much AE but my understanding is the supply system is different in it. AE treats the supply system like the ships in DEI to my understanding. Armies have a supply amount they stock up on that when out of a friendly region gets used up and when its empty attrition sets in. It's binary, either consuming supplies at a static rate or not.
DEI has different supply situations that determine consumption rate based on location of your provinces/supply lines, location of allied provinces, location of enemy armies, season, fertility, army stance, and culture type. Whether it could be streamlined in easier to notice menus, I don't know, but AE and DEI supply systems are vastly different to my knowledge so it's apples to oranges comparison.
This was already my favorite total war...
With this mod it's now one of my favorite rts games...
Turn based strategy lol
I totally forgot about this mod, many thanks for the heads up. Very inspired to give it another craic!
Fantastic video! Found it very informative and great realistic comments! Think your work is great keep it up
6:40 That seems redundant to me. The class population system seems to take care of that already. Why also say you can't recruit local troops if your culture isn't dominant?
My girlfriend told me I play too much PC and I need to grow up. So I compromised and said I’d only play one game to minimize time spent. That game was Rome II 😉
Thanks for that Darren. I do watch your DEI campaigns with Jackie avidly & always enjoy them. Sadly my poor old PC which is still running Windows 8.1 just wouldn't be able to handle the mod. I do still enjoy the vanilla game though so I'll have to be satisfied with that, for now :)
Excellent review of the mod. I'm now subscribed to you, and will be reinstalling Rome 2 and downloading this mod for it. Thank you!
Love this mod, have been using and following it since it's first public beta.
Some corrections to this video.
AI won't starve and get much rebellions because DeI gives them so much buffs. Sadly it's necessary for this bare bones of AI.
Like you can raid them with 4 full armies and they still keep positive in their cities.
Also population and supply routes have (had?) no effect for the AI, or atleast it wasn't when last time i played
The best way to play DeI is competing against another player where you can take advantage of supply lines. It's actually really devastating when 6 stacks of armies are in a single province. My buddy had to retreat and halt his invasion because his 6-stack army is suffering from attrition without supply.
A year late but I need his now. This should have been standard. I liked total war when you had to think of these things. With warhammer etc it's become more and more simple to play the game.
Great video Darren! One of the best you’ve done.
This mod is awesome! When I play video games it's always for realism simulations. I had no ideal about this mod. Thanks for making this video
What does this Caesar edition even do?
Nothing really, it comes with the Caesar in Gaul DLC and a an e-book about Caesar.
Creative Assembly release an edition of their game each year to restock retailers with something new to keep the price high. Cdkeys keeps the price low though.
CA Shills strike again
They could have at least put all the DLCs older than Empire Divided other than Blood and Gore in the bundle, if not actually putting all of them like a regular "Definitive GOTY Super Compleat Deluxe Alpha++ Edition"
pimpedouthorseradish wouldnt make as much money.
@Jesus Was a Socialist, If he existed well they have the right to go ahead and put up something out like that again and then I have the right again to not decide to buy it which many people will probably decide to not do it Freedom right.
DeI is so fucking amazing. It's exactly what I wanted from Rome 2, it moves the game from a 7/10 to a 10/10.
While being generous with the 7/10.
Thanks for the video, it was well edited and useful info in there.
Oh wow ! How come that I only discover this mod now !?
I am going to download it tomorrow and give it a try ! Thanks for your video ans Dresden&Co for their work !
Is it as good as it seems?
Looks very impressive! Does it work with DLC’s or only Grand campaign?
You do not need any of the DLC to play so you're good, have fun.
If you want to play certain factions you will need the DLC's. Also, they re did WoS into the Macedonian wars involving Rome and Macedon.
To my knowledge, the supply and 4TPY/seasons are in all DLCs. The reform, AOR, unit balance, and pop system are tied to unit rosters which the team haven't had a chance to overhaul yet for some of the sub campaigns.
Anders le Wrath of Sparta is changed to another time period called “Macadonian Wars” you can also download a submod which gives you acces to play as more factions there.
There is also a submod where you can play the original “Wrath of Sparta” though i am not sure it is updated as Dresden has been focusing on “Rise of the republic”
I do not know If you can play “Hannibal at the Gates” or “Ceasar in gaul” as i don’t have the DLC’s. Though it wouldn’t suprise me If you can :-)
Rise of the republic is playable all the units are practically made.And i know that they are making new units for Empire divided which i am looking very much forward too
This feels like a completely different game and what rome 2 should have been
Have too many games I've not finished or have still to play but this looks so good I had to buy it using your link.
Thanks a lot for the vid! Love the updates to Rome 2, so I may have to dive make into this mod.
I don't know if you've played vanilla recently but the Campaign AI has changed wherein they will spawn full stack armies in most of their settlements - or at least within their provinces. The map is not as empty as it was a couple of months before. All of this without the mod. It seems it is now coded within the update itself (ancestral)... at least in the mid and late game.
I observed this too
Yes i think what he mentioned about the ai was the vanilla game and not the mod he even mentions the modders cannot alter the ai files
Is there a mod that makes the time per turn more realistic? Each turn is a season, three months. This ends up causing problems and creating ridiculously long travel times.
One problem is that the generals age too quickly, so it's hard to build up faction members before they die.
Regarding traveling - Let's say you want to sail from Rome to Egypt. How long in the game does that take? At standard speed, what, around two years? At forced speed, somewhat less, but still a completely unrealistic amount of time. That's without going into marching times. Say Rome to Sicily for example. Hopelessly longer than real travel times in the age.
Though Napoleon Total War is generally seen as inferior, one thing they did a little better was game time per turn.
Yes, that could make Rome 2 a VERY long game. You'll get no complaints from me if it were.
There are TPY (turns per year) mods, but I doubt they play nice with DeI.
There's 1, 4, 12, and 24 TPY options for DEI and probably more I am forgetting. Mod defaults to 4.
Thank you, Colest. 24 turns per year sounds like a much better rate for the game.
No problemo. When you get to those bigger TPY submods the movement starts getting a little wonky because they don't just cut it by whatever factor TPY you have it. So your mileage may vary for "realism" of troop and ship movements. If you get a wee bit more hands on, you can tweak the movement rates yourself and it's a pretty simple thing to do with the pack manager.
I just want travel time to be as realistic as possible. There is plenty of information about actual time required in historical sources. How did the devs not realise how silly such enormous periods of time required between travel points severely detracted from gameplay and immersion? If they felt that it would make the game too long then they underestimated a fans willingness to live in the game. All they had to do was consider actual historical travel times along a certain level of road or using a certain ship between two major points and make that the default single turn unit (eg Rome to Naples at a rate of one week by road, or perhaps allow for a surplus of movement points with a rate two weeks per turn). Adjustments are calculated for road quality, terrain, ship speed, weather conditions, etc. I'm not smart enough to make such a mod, but even a dummy like me can see the need.
Just when I thought I was done with Rome 2 because I'm playing Warhammer and Three Kingdoms rn, you pulled me back in!!!!
Great video. Heard about the mod but never knew the specifics. After playing warhammer for a few years I got back to historic titles, and Rome 2 is one I only played 1 full campaign on, so was thinking of revisiting it after playing some more 3 kingdoms, and definitely will try DEI after seeing what it has.
Cheers!
Does this actually make the battles even slower? Because I feel like the battles already take pretty long considering you can be a situation where you are in a battle for 20 min, then 3 min later, start another battle, 3 min later another etc.
MORE DEI MATE :D
Outstanding mod have been using it since it was released and watched it grow to what it is now, great review as usual Darren..
This is a very good video and after seeing this i popped into the mod shop and grabbed it 10/10 👍
The only bad thing I found about this mod is that spear units can form phalanxes on walls, which makes the nigh-on impossible to kill without massive amounts of missile infantry. A single unit of Carthaginian hoplite garrison routed my principe assault team in the Hannibal campaign.
Dresden please fix
Also CA hire Dresden for god sake
This is a base game issue. We tried to fix it but only way to make phalanx not deploy on walls for AI (eventhough it is already set to not depoloy on them but game bypasses it) is to make phalanx not deploy at all in cities, even on flat street, which makes pike/hoplite units the worst defensive units.
I don't want CA to hire Dresden. Mitch was the guy who made the population mod that's now part of DEI. They hired Mitch 3 years ago and he makes Warhammer DLC. Please stay away from Dresden! WE should support him on Patreon or something.
+RepublicOfPlay
RIP Mitch's mod manager
@@RepublicOfPlay whats wrong with warhammer DLCs
no he is refering to the fact that when CA hired mitch his mod called "Mitch's mod manager" had to be removed so the fear is if they hire Dresden DEI goes away!
Gonna salt nuke Carthage.
Great video! I love this mod. Wouldn't play Rome II without it. Dresden is a hero.
Very cool mod i wish i had a pc to play it. Big props to modders and people who make content to promote the hard work that goes into them. You guys bring so many great/new aspects to games that would otherwise not exist if not for the FREE hard work that goes into them. Many thanks 🙏
Divide et Impera needs to fix the Greek names: For instance this "Thraikoi" thing (other mods have used it aswell) does not exist. It's ὁ Θρᾷξ singular οἱ Θρᾷκες plural. Also stuff like Athenai Hoplitai is again wrong, Athenaioi Hoplitai is the correct term. Cavarly and Sarissaphoroi is wrong: According to the taxonomy of the Tactical
Writers, all the cavalry which fought at close
quarters was called the doratophoroi ‘spearbearing’
or xystophoroi ‘lance-bearing’ cavalry
(Asclep. 1. 3)
Epirotoi or Epivatoi does not exist either, both of these words are 1st declination, not 2nd
Also some historical inaccuracies:
Leukaspides as melee infantry? They were a phalanx corps, the silver-shields were reformed
P.S. Concentrate fire exists in vanilla, it is hidden in the game files, it's not a new addition
Tell Dresden / Kam2150. I posted a link to their discussions section on steam.
No one knows what the Leukaspides actually were, they've been interpreted in different ways by different historians.
the most widely accepted intepretation though is as a phalanx corps
@@Gyrosmeister No it's not. You're bullshitting.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leukaspides give me some info because there is some easily accesible
Me: Wait, so there were proletarians back in the days of ancient Rome ?
Karl Marx: Always has been.
A great review of a great mod. I like playing Caesar in Gaul with DEI and try to follow the narrative of Adrian Goldsworthy's biography of Caesar. With DEI you really can do it raising and numbering the legions as Caesar did, using the Gallic horse as Caesar did, protecting the supply train, going into winter quarters, fighting in triplex acies. It's just a brilliant mod.
Excellent video, thank you!
If only the folks at CA could play this mod and maybe take a lesson or two from it.
I tried it but disliked it. I found it too long and there are some bugs with factions putting some armies on high sea and i found a huge bug with some units that are totally overpowered according to statistics compared to others. Main problem is that AI cheat a lot more than in vanilla
s sdq There are addonds that fix things
@@goodestguy9543 wich one
s sdq No more cheating ai
@@goodestguy9543 ok i may teste it
Sounds very interesting but it features a typical mistake when modding: enormous complexity on mechanics need enormous UI improvement so that those tones of new information don't ruin your experience.
Grand strategy games generally demand a lot of good administration of your limited resources, and that's great, the problem is that you cannot do that propperly if you have no access to clear and quick to check information..
For example, if I play Stellaris and run low on energy, I can instantly check my expenses and try to mend the situation.
I've tried DEI and echonomy felt like playing on a roulette. Similar happened with the exquisite ancient empires for tottal war: Attila.
I love complex mechanics but games are games, and the variables should be easy to understand, check and to a certain extent, predict. That's why I like playing stellaris a lot more than playing Europa universalis (both from the same studio), because in EU some mechanics are hard to understand or there isn't information about it.
I've played dozens of mods, specially on total war series (CA makes quite poorly finished games that are much better with mods) and I'd really recomend modders that plan to make complex overhauls with new mechanics to expend much more energy on adapting the UI to perfectly match the new features.
I thought I had played Rome 2 enough with 150 hours, but now I have to play it even more... Thanks ROP.
great vid, clearly alot of work gone into it thanks for review!
Just disable population and supply system and it is awesome. They are very buggy and not fully supported since base game is not suited to support them. Other parts are very nice
The population system is the best part of DEI. It affects the AI as well so they can be dealt a serious blow through your victories against them.
@@Zhohan- hm one simple example, when ur one army is wounded and ur one unit has not enough population for that unit type to be refreshed, ur all 19 other units wont replenish either even if they have the populace needed. The system is dogshit because game cant support it properly
How do you disable those? Also is there an option to let cities grow on their own? I'm not into micromanaging each town and city.
There is a submod in their tw forum. When u put it to data folder and activate it in mod menu , it disables supply and population.
Mert Erakın Honestly if it wasn't for what you mentioned the system could be awesome. A shame they can't make it so that just that one unit doesn't replenish
My main problem with this mod is that it absolutely sucks at giving you the relevant information, while at the same time overloading you with information. It is ridiculous when there are several tooltips in the mod that literally do not fit on the screen because they are so god damn bloated with tiny modifiers and other needlessly convoluted shit. I love the ideas of this mod but I just cannot get around the implementation.
Also having the names of units be in latin or greek etc does nothing but drastically increase the learning curve further than it already is. There is no need to have the classes be Patricii, Plebes, Proletarii, and Peregrinni, when instead it could just have been something significantly more understandable such as Nobles, Citizens, Working Class, Foreigners, which is pretty close to what those latin words translate to, but significantly easier to understand what they are and what their role is. The same goes for the units.
There is an English names submod if you don't like that.
boo hoo
I'd assume that alot of this is limited by the base UI of the game...
The "needless modifiers" in the tooltips you refer to are largely the supply system and the seasons. You'd have to gut either system to get the UI clean.
The english name is under the unit name in the info panel, so I think that's a good compromise between the two, but I understand where you're coming from.
Wow, i many times heard about DEI, but never thought that this mod is so good. Going to try out! Thanks!
Very informative video. I've never tried DEI before, I generally prefer to tweak a game rather than overhaul it, but you've convinced me to give it a try. :)
fighting battles for 40 minutes.hmmmm....
Hiero protoganist the creator made some submods so the battles can be faster. It takes so long because the formations are actually carefully fighting each other and being protected by their comrades.
@Tl2aV How about siege battles?
imo the best total war is shogun 2 u just play
Hiero protoganist I say Attila but that’s my opinion
Proper length
Battles are terrible with this mod...
just more challenging not a bad things. take times to get use to it but overall an improve
@@vn01208503 I prefer the original battle mode, but i can support it cause i really like this mod. 😁
i think DEI will still improve so yea :D cant play rome 2 without this mod!
There is various submods to tweak the battle speed to your liking as well. I suggest checking some out :)
I'm enjoying Rome 1 Remastered now, but you make me want to go try this mod on Rome 2. Very neat features on that mod.
Totally agree with the campaign AI, and even the battle AI to an extent. I’ve about 600 hours in Rome 2, just started my first dei campaign and absolutely loving it.
Great video , can't wait to play this mod! :D
I’ve only watched a few of your videos, but I find your style of presentation for your opinions very well balanced and thought out. I normally shy away from overhaul mods like DEI but on your recommendation I am definitely give it a go. I’ll also be watching your vs campaigns in the future. Great video 👍🏻
Ok, I’ve started playing and I do not regret listening to you for even a second. Thank you!
great overview of the mod. wow just wow. that supply and pop mechanic will make the game into a what it should have been from the beginning.
Finally, a Rome 2 game version that I can play enthusiastically. Fantastic!