Pointless Motorway Driving
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2016
- Why the hell do people act in this way on UK roads? I thought we were meant to be a developed society? Neanderthal's more like it!!!
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Nissan driver was the sort of driver that causes problems for nothing. A fool and one that needs to learn lane discipline amongst other things.
This is why it's important to keep things in the car you can throw at them, and also important to have a fast car so you can smoke them as you do it. Just my choice.
@@robertemmett906 I once accidentally found out that Ice Cubes from a fast food drink make the perfect anti tailgater deterrent, they don't really do any damage, although it sounds like they do, plus after a couple of minutes there's absolutely no evidence left........lol.
@@robertemmett906What would you throw?
The solution to encountering almost any bellend of this ilk is to slow down and allow them to get away, fading into the traffic ahead. It’ll cost you 30 seconds tops on your overall journey, but safely slipping into Lane 1 and doing 60 for half a mile is how you sort this without provoking the bellend and keeping yourself safe.
That was my first though when I was watching this video.
I'm not saying the Nissan did a single thing right. But accelerating at 1:50 and cutting him off at 2:50 were probably not the best choices.
@@lukasmax6984 Yeah, I'm sure Ashley would agree that wasn't the best driving from him, but I have a feeling he was just trying to prove his point that the black car was driving badly by middle lane hogging and not changing their speed or lane to help other vehicles by demonstrating where it could be an issue.
@@BaldMancTwat Yeah the only time that car changed lanes or speed was to block other traffic. Completely disrespectful and dangerous.
@@lukasmax6984 Agreed, and it could have been avoided if Ashley had stayed in lane 2 initially at that point, as he caught up with the car in lane 1 quite quickly
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. It looks like the Nissan wasn't going more than 60mph anyways so unless Ashley dropped to 50-55mph then this wouldn't work and also going at such a low speed can be dangerous.
What an absolute piece of work. Imagine getting this angry paying no attention to how bad you're driving. Middle lane drivers scourge of the roads.
It wasnt the middle lane that was the trouble it was the speeding up and down. If they both had been in the slow lane then there would be lane changes going on all round. THis is itself a risk if there are others behind you, The evidence is clear in every motorway in the land that its easier to be in a busy middle lane than in a less busy slow lane trying to get in and out again closing up on slow lorries.
@@andyharpist2938 You couldn't be more wrong
@@markw6369 I wouldn't like to spend a motorway journey with you Mark. You might be technically correct but the passenger stress would be enormous. And evidenced by that few drivers dodge in and out of the slow lorry-lane...(unless doing 85 and showing their honed skills to us lesser drivers).
@@andyharpist2938 There is no correlation between lanes and speed, so no such thing as a 'slow lane'. It's that mindset that causes lane hogging. Lane 1 is for driving in, lane 2 (or 3 or more where they exist) are for overtaking.
@@willymesserschmitt4411 Are you really advocating that everyone in the land should drive in and out of the lane of lorries going at 50-55mph? And then dodge out again to over take them at 70 (if you can), then in again ... My observation of m-ways is that this only happens with lunatics flying by at 80-90 making a big point of showing off their driving skills and your middle lane hogging ( despite the outside lane being still available for them to overtake.).
There's not a m-way in the land where those driving at 70 will go anywhere near the slow lane unless there is almost no lorries in it ..a rare happening. You included.
I've noticed a lot of people take issue with what they see as 'lesser' vehicles overtaking them. This sort of thing happened to me all the time when I had small cars but since upgrading to a larger car it never happens, it must hurt their ego.
Yep I drive an old and "unfashionable" car but the car is quite capable of cruising at motorway speeds.
Many times I've noticed drivers that must either get ahead of me. I often I find myself catching them again further up the road, when they think they've lost me and gone back to their normal speed and checking their social media account. Also happens regularly when I'm in my truck, which is LHD so I can check their social media account as well.
Never noticed it when I was driving my 10 year-old Honda Civic...
As soon as I bought my BMW, I noticed it a lot.... almost every time I'm on the motorway. Perhaps I just started noticing it, but, now when I overtake people, they often return the favour immediately... weird.
I wouldn't spend much more than a grand on a motor
But I am wealthy nevertheless
I had the opposite problem going from a Fiesta to an MR2 back some years ago. If I wanted to drive slower while in the MR2, I'd pull in for others to overtake but no one would want to overtake me.
Lesser cars??@9286?
Good point.
I can report the opposite success: in town on my local A road i constantly get past expensive car/ drivers/ vehicles by looking ahead better and position myself better. Advanced and HGV driver . We have to look ahead , otherwise, our load of bananas get squashed!😅
It's making my blood boil just watching. We should legally be able to use an RPG on these guys.
@Rick Lokers woah...this escalated fast Rick
Rick Lokers I love you.
@Rick Lokers know there pain do you?
@@derdeutsche8987 Why the fuck are you called The subtitle writer?
@Paul Diver nah hes gonna launch it out the window like a boss
this perfectly summarises my past 3 years of driving to work. Thank you
So true friend.I commute from Southend to Chelmsford each day and the level of ignorence and poor driving is astounding.
Me too,it’s very strange how people use the middle lane all the way down,I will never understand it
Totally relatable for me too. I wish this was just a few idiots on the odd day but it's constant, day after day. It makes driving on a motorway or dual carriageway way so much more stressful and tiring than it needs to be.
About 4 years ago, relatively soon after I qualified, I went on a road trip around the Scottish highlands. To do so we hired a car, and as a 'treat' (and because my own 1 litre vehicle might have died) I managed to get a BMW 5 series for myself. Driving north on A and B roads was nice with no real issues, but the drive home down the M6 was my first real introduction to middle lane hogging, and expensive car syndrome.
For around an hour of the journey a Mercedes, an Audi, an Alpha Romeo, and souped up Transit (black and green with chequered flag down the side) persistently leap-frogged each other, and worse still would actually accelerate into the second and third lane to get past each other - often travelling well upwards of 90mph - only to pull into the second lane in front of one of their frogging colleagues and slow down to 60 as we snaked through Cumbria. If another car appeared, they would all speed up to ensure that they couldn't pass, then when the driver pulled in behind them - they would slow down. If a car did pass, they would all speed up to keep pace with that person until they could then re-overtake them and bring them into their little pack (this included myself on a few occasions as their pace was so inconsistent).
After an hour, what was an open empty road had now turned into a convoy of traffic behind these berks. So, with a wide open road in front of them, I put my foot down a little, moved out to lane 3 and pulled away from them. Behind me about a dozen other cars all did the same thing - and then behind them we watched as pretty much the entire motorway (apart from HGV's) all peeled right. We pulled past the group - who then all as a collective started trying to push their way back into lane 2 and 3, but the dam had been broken. And once a new lead group had pushed through you just had this constant procession of traffic pushing past them, refusing to let them into the third lane.
About 10 minutes later we were well clear of them, and the traffic flowed quite easily for the next 30 minutes. I could see way behind me the green van indicating their approximate location - and could see them weaving to get back to the front of this imaginary queue of traffic that they had to be at the front of. The Merc finally got back to the front, and literally got in front of me about 20 yards in lane 2 and started to indicate to move to lane 1 - but he was already slowing down. So I indicated to move to lane 2, slipped over and drove past him again. Behind me you just watched lane 1 almost grind to a halt as he dropped from 80'ish to 60 in a few seconds, and then accelerated again to pull in behind me.
That experience taught me that sometimes if you can't get away from a driver by slowing down, or even maintaining the speed limit, the best thing to do is to take the next service station.
@koncorde Expensive car syndrome. I like that. As for middle lane hoggers. I blame the invisible lorries in the left lane always preventing the left lane being used
@@thelostusername5013 Another story. Christmas time, just picked the missus up from a night shift and I am heading home. I am driving my doodle bug at 70, pitch black motorway. About 500 yards ahead of me, all the way out of the city centre, an estate car held the middle lane, blood bank ambulance type thing. Not a problem, he's well in front, and I don't care. I end up gaining on him slightly, until I am less than 30 to 40 yards behind, and he's still in lane 2.
About 2 minutes later however I can see in my rear view mirror something approaching at speed, and suddenly this car flew by at 100+, followed by a couple of motorcycles in lane 3.
Now, I haven't changed speed, but for whatever reason the estate car decides to literally slam his brakes on and change lanes. So not only does he cut me up, but he also turns almost 30 degrees in the road so tight is his turn. I ended up braking and riding the hard shoulder as I stared this guy in the eyes he was that badly angled.
I assume he fell asleep at the wheel in his "comfy" middle lane.
@@koncorde Jesus Christ. Some people are truly scary
@@thelostusername5013 scary innit. The worrying thing is that you normalise this behaviour during the day, on a semi busy road. But then you realise that actually they do it 24/7. It's an attitude thing, and it can be dangerous for those around you when for no reason you start changing lanes or maintaining inconsistent speeds, or see it as competitive.
@@thelostusername5013 I think a lot of this is now caused by smart motorways where people are scared to use the left lane.
Surely if the Nissan driver applied some basic logic, then he/she would have realised that learner drivers can't drive on the motorway so the car must be driven by a fully qualified driver who happens to be a driving instructor. No need to feel embarrassed after all then...
That would probably involve logic, and thinking any further than "But... I can't let *THEM* over take *ME*!"
There's just something about L plates that seems to act as an amplifier for morons on the road. :/
Haha. Lovely way to think about it! Top Class
I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to display L plates if it's not a learner actually behind the wheel.
Permanently liveried driving school vehicles (e.g. with signs on the roof) and instructors driving between lessons are obviously exempt from that rule.
Ashley Neal embarrassing if the Nissan driver turns out to be an ex pupil Ashley!
Collins LFC Yeah.
WHYYYY do people get so mad when you try to overtake them???
Personally i feel better as it takes off loads of pressure not feeling like your holding up traffic even though i always travel at the speed limit
I wonder more about why people need to overtake by speeding
YELDAH why do you get angry when you see someone hauling ass? I just don’t get the hate for overtaking on the freeway.
When I see someone obviously going faster than me and trying to overtake, I do my best to let him do that.
@@tiko5876 didn't mention anything about getting angry about about being overtaken or them speeding but when they do it in a way that puts me at risk then im not gonna be best pleased
When you have cruise control you start to notice all the drivers that can't just pick one speed, but unconsciously react to the cars around them, or the gradient.
My solution - and it is only mine - is to maintain a workable speed differential to the majority of the traffic. Interactions with other traffic are shorter which gives less time for reactive driving styles to develop and cause problems.
You start to notice all the drivers that cant pick the 1 speed....that implies before you started using cruise control it's exactly what you did. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just being human
"you start to notice all the drivers that can't just pick one speed, but unconsciously react to the cars around them" that's the point! So many ppl react to the cars around. How do people react is something you cant be sure. Sometimes even I do this... Getting more speed, coz of someone else is speeding (dont do that!). We all should keep eyes open, but still focus on MY trip, MY car, MY passengers and MY safety (coz we all want to be safe on the roads). Hope you know what i mean.
If you are getting anoyed or got some angry driver on you - just hold a minute or two, take a break. Let them all go and enjoy your trip :)
@@chestermartin2356 I try to keep one speed but I dont have cruise control :(
I'm not a big fan of cruise control, in fact I would argue it's a bit dangerous (particularly in heavy traffic) as it encourages you to maintain your speed when it would be safer to ease off a bit to keep a safe stopping distance or avoid a dangerous lane change as we saw in the video. I tend to drive at about 70 on the motorway but slow down a bit when catching up traffic and speed up a bit after overtaking so as not to annoy the person I've just overtaken if they start catching me up again.
I agree Mike Page , it’s all about being consistent and predictable when on freeways.
I am sure the vast majority of people who drive like this are completely ignorant of the idiocy of their driving, so they always think they are hard done by they're the victim. So many dumb people who couldn't even consider their driving at fault.
I drive 25k + a year and this happens all the time. Often, people drive at 80mph to stop you overtaking, accelerate to get ahead, once in the “fast” overtaking lane they go back to 70, when they pull back to middle lane they go back to 80 to stop you overtaking. People have stupid egos
no. its that being in front is safer. Vision you understand. How may times have I been overtaken in the middle lane by someone cutting in...and then effectively taking the safety of me into their own hands...me not now seeing past them! And dont talk to me of those cutting in in wet weather right ahead of you in the dark.
@@andyharpist2938 If you have the correct separation distance this wont be a problem.
Unbeknownst to the Nissan wanker, the instructor is driving because learners aren't allowed to drive on motorways.
MrSupercar55 they are now.
Not in October 2016.
Hence the "now" word :P
akitraM its about time!
Not yet their not. Not until June this year
Autodysfunctional Egotism.
Where someone feels another vehicle is inferior and has to make up for their own issues by operating their vehicle (note the lack of the word "driving" as it is too complimentary) poorly.
correct
@intempify Paranoia?
Hi Ashley, great video. As an hgv driver I have to put up with these drivers speeding up and slowing down in the middle lane constantly. In your case they don't want to be over taken by a learner and in my case they can't be over taken by a truck!
In lane 1 too, they 45 to 50, you move out to overtake only for them to accelerate away, you move back in and they slow down again.
The Nissan is middle lane hogging, something which was totally illegal even before this clip was uploaded. He would have been pulled over had the police seen him.
Clarissa McPigeon apart from the fact that most of the time the police won't bother with middle lane hoggers. Annoying but true!!
I dont see what the fuss is about with middle lane hoggers.
If im behind one.... i just over take them?
Edit - WHAT A FUCKING PENIS!!!!
SmOkey.
If there are cars hogging the middle lane, it makes it harder for cars on the outside lane to pull in, which creates more traffic.
The worst drivers are the ones who hog the middle lane going slow. They cause cars to undertake and overtake.
Badge Ricketts. Police budgets are being constantly cut. New laws keep being brought in.
I wish that were true. Never seen or heard of it happen ever. If I am in lane 1 and approaching someone hogging lane 2 I do not change lanes and I pass them in lane 1. I am not going across the 3 lanes and back again because they are incompetent, this is safer to me because they NEVER move back to lane 1 so no risk involved whatsoever. This has occurred maybe half a dozen to a dozen times a day, 5 days a week for 2 decades. It will never change, people are thick with little to no common sense.
Just disappointed they couldn't afford a proper SUV and had to get some front wheel drive shit wagon
David Jones 😂👏
well most people that drive SUVs don't even own the car lol, they just lease or loan it and then act as if they're rich even though they're broke as shit
David Jones Lmfao, true.
It’s not about the car, it’s the driver
David Jones said no one ever SUV are crap in general a rolls Royce SUV would still be dog shit
It's terrifying how many people's sense of worth is tied to where they are on a road!
They have emotional problems. I bet they couldn't tell you why they act as they do. Their anxieties are dictating their actions.
Do people really care being overtaken by a learner 😂😂 That’s so lame
They forget that they were learners themselves once. I admit that I feel superior to learner drivers because I am a lot more experienced (However, I am courteous to them as I haven't forgotten those nerve racking early days of driving.) Drivers like this Nissan nob take it to a whole new level though. I can imagine him thinking that letting a learner driver overtake him will somehow reduce his worth as a driver and as a man lol.
intempify are you having a go at the instructor?
Middle land hogging grips my s**t! I see people merge onto the motorway all the time when lane 1 is empty and they go to straight to the middle lane! Never seen police enforce this law yet unfortunately
I have absolutely no problem with it as long as their speed represents their lane choice
I live in the usa I've never driven on more than a 2 lane what's the rules for it? Here we're supposed to stay on the right unless passing(we drive on the right so I assume its opposite there?)
@@Anna-tc6rz Motorways here are usually 3 lanes but sometimes 4 lanes, we drive on the left so normal driving should always be in the furthest left lane unless the lane is to exit the motorway. The other lanes are for overtaking, people "middle lane hog" which means the rest of us have to over take the middle lane hogger in lane 3 then merge back to lane 2 then to lane 1. It Is illegal to undertake vehicles on any road unless they are turning right or in slow moving traffic.
Cloe Williams - Worse still are the lane three hogs on 4 lane motorways. Sorry, but I have long since given up traversing across lanes two and three just to get around them, and now stay in lane one (with cruise on) and pass on the inside. I’m well aware “two wrongs don’t make a right” but given the whole empty lane between me and the hog I’m not sure I see the danger in it. However, if I ever am stopped, I’ll be sure to be asking the officer why I’m the one getting pulled instead of the hog. 🐷
@@cloelincoln499 There is no law to state that passing on the left is illegal in UK, or US
I had a incident the other week where on the M1 a learner car was driving (obviously with no learner in it) and someone was doing exactly the same as the people in the Nissan, the downside to this is that it hold the other traffic up and the car that was involved decided to switch lanes the last second and ended up sideswiping my car sending me spinning out, luckily there was only minor damage, I also have a dashcam and caught the footage, let's just say the police weren't too impressed with them, keep safe!!
Happens too often unfortunately. Thanks for watching.Look forward to see your footage :)
I saw a similar incident like this between a Volvo and a Jag. I was way behind the Volvo, and the Jag merged in from a slip road, so there were no prior issues. The Jag overtook and the Volvo played around with it, in a similar way to what happened in this clip, speeding up then slowing down etc. The Jag eventually got pissed off, got in front of the Volvo and slammed its brakes on so hard the Volvo lost control, did well to keep on the motorway whilst slowing from 70 to about 40, then fish tailed and span off into the verge at the side. I don't condone that, but I did laugh.
I reckon its the silver volvo from 'people are getting worse'
And this is why I now, unfortunately, consider it totally acceptable to undertake. Because a lot of the time it's easier and safer to just undertake these idiots than put up with their nonsense.
Driving instructors do not have the luxury of bending the rules and either undertaking or speeding away from such bad drivers and the bad drivers know this. The Nissan is probably a disgruntled ex driving instructor or an ex-pupil failed on some occasion and probably took criticism from a driving instructor for bad driving and now has it in for all cars bearing L plates or driving school signage.
Similar stunts are pulled by ex truck drivers knowing that all trucks are speed limited electronically and cannot exceed a set speed even if the driver wants to.
I have seen criminally minded car drivers slow down in front of trucks and then speed up when being overtaken, knowing that the truck driver cannot speed up tp complete the operation safely.
Spite driving is becoming all too common on motorways lately.
its not.
"Get a life." Quite!
I used to drive a van with cruise control and found myself constantly having to cancel it, even on quiet stretches of motorway because i couldn't be bothered getting into tedious games of cat and mouse with people who accelerate from 65mph to 80mph anytime you try to overtake them (always middle lane hoggers too). It's unreasonable to expect drivers without cruise control to be able to sit on a perfectly constant speed but those who allow their speed to continually fluctuate by 15 - 20mph are the bane of every motorway driver's life.
Agreed. They see you coming and they are all “NOT ON MY WATCH!”
What a plum. This happens every time I drive on the motorway.
This just solidified my reasons for not using P plates when I'm out this week. Unbelievable (but unfortunately completely believable)
Not wrong! Blend in :)
Ashley Neal first motorway run from Rainhill Stoops to Tarbock Island. First of many!
I'm not sure if these were around when I passed my driving test (1993) but I have never seen much point in them. You've passed the test and are fully licensed to drive, very few people will give much leeway for drivers with the P plate (let alone other types of plates!) so you might as well disappear into the crowd and get on with improving your own driving, rather than fighting off dickheads who take advantage of 'a newbie'!
I'd like to think most people don't act like this, when ever I see learner or P plates I leave a bigger following gap, or let them out at junctions etc.
I have P plates and don't really have problems. When I'm cruising at 20 in a 20 zone, instead of driving right up my arse, they tend to just overtake, which I prefer if they're overtaking safely.
Even for being a learner car, I just love knowing that you had more power to easily overtake that guy at any moment, yet you sit back with a smile on your face haha
I totally feel your pain, this happens to me almost every time I'm on a UK motorway (most of my driving). And I'm not a learner car!
Ashley Neal couldn’t have said it better I agree with everything he said , and well titled video . The Nissan was just pointless annoyance , unfortunately seems to be more and more common on today’s roads. People are minding their own business driving along perfectly well for clowns like that to upset the balance of everything. Same goes for corner cutters red light jumpers people who turn left from the right hand lane and cut you up. Ruins the driving experience
I don't know if it's me but I'm see more and more corner cutting these days. I'm careful to avoid it and ignore their errors, but it's not good for newer drivers who are more easily unnerved and could overreact to situation.
@@Heliumcool1 I have seen too many people cut corners infront of me recently. They normally always beep at me after nearly going into me, as if its my fault somehow.
Try engaging your brain and see it from the other side! Pretend the Nissan driver is the world best and Ashley is a knob. Then watch the video again.
@@davidclark2932 Nissan would still be in the wrong as he intentionally blocked Ashley's car from overtaking, he also is hogging the middle lane which is illegal.
You're a true gentleman of the road, the Nissan driver a true PIG.
You could try thinking for yourself and see it from the other point of view!
@@davidclark2932 No matter which view that Nissan driver shows how childish and pathetic he or she is
@@davidclark2932 What other point of view?
this is why I sit at 65mph on my cruise sit in the inside lane due to the people who keep adjusting their speed. less hassle sitting in the inside lane leave the middle laners to it
Think we've probably all had situations like this. Had it once on long drive to Newcastle. Started to feel so stressed out by it I pulled off at the services to chill out and start again. Minus the annoying driver😊
Best decision to avoid driving in toxic company.
I encountered this type of driving most of the way down from Edinburgh to MK last week. My van is limited to 70 and the amount of times I had to give up on overtakes because drivers in the middle lane were unable to maintain a constant speed or they were not allowing me by was incredible.
Had this happen to me while on L plates on a dual carriageway. Old green Lupo being driven by a young man (I assume recently passed) joined further ahead and was doing about 60. I was doing 65ish. He was fine with other cars overtaking, but he obviously was trying to stop me overtaking. After a while of neck and neck driving, got fed up and gradually speed up till I got past. Got to 85mph before he gave up/run out of power. Wouldn’t have done it but there was a string of cars queue to get past him!
I've seen and experienced this many times myself. It's a mix of what I call 'pole position syndrome' and dysfunctional ego problems. Perhaps those who seem to entice and invite issues with other drivers on the roadways get bored of the monotony after driving for many miles... so they quite literally create some unnecessary drama (sort of like children who behave terribly).
Just being mindful & considerate of others, while minding your own business is not enough for many drivers. Just enjoying the journey is not enough. I find the psychology of why people do the things they do fascinating, despite how adverse and/or odd.
One of the coolest things I see from time to time on the road is when a driver goes a little out of his way to be nice to another driver... a complete stranger just being nice because... just automatically as a result of their inherent state of mind.
Really like the way you exemplified this with the use of the cruise control. Well done/upped.
This is why u just drive 60 and let traffic pass. You won’t get your max mpg by doing 70 and playing to their games of going faster and slower. Arrive 3min later but happier
I sometimes play car tag with middle lane hoggers. See how many laps I can do of their vehicle before they take the hint.
Pull out to lane 3, over take. Pull in to lane 1, slow down, pull out overtake, pull in, slow down, pull out, over take, pull in, slow down.
Round and round I go.
Lol!
What's your record no. of laps?
@@TheChaosFactory1 I've had someone just get ragey and stay out, so I've given up doing it and moved on after hitting almost double digits but generally people get the message after 2 or 3.
Console: So you are the custodian of the middle lane? Your actions are a damn sight more dangerous. Off to the chain gang mate
My actions aren't illegal. Light-hearted pisstaking sure, but illegal they're not.
Custodian of the middle lane, don't think I am thanks but that's quite a title. I'm someone who just plays car tag. If you can't overtake whilst being safe perhaps you ought to redo your test.
Don't worry, I get this in my little white van. Not as bad from the reactions but I'm clearly travelling faster than the middle lane lover, only for them to accelerate when I'm passing. Back into lane two, catch them up, into lane three - rinse and repeat until they have not read the road ahead and get stuck behind something big.
I just looked up on the database and you were in the wrong, your middle lane owner club permit had expired some time ago.
i had something similar on a dual carriageway some years back, one of my ex pupils with a car load of friends, who had passed his test 3 weeks before, thought it would be funny to speed up to stop my leaner from passing ( having slowed to let us pass in the first place...or so we thought , anyway we slowed down a bit and tucked back in behind him not wanting to play his stupid game,
two weeks later i was told by one of his other friends (now my pupil) that he and two friends had been seriously hurt driving through a red light at speed and being hit by a large van....sadly one of the friends later died from his injuries......you can teach them but sadly some just forget all too soon.
If in doubt go flat out
Colin McRae reference I see my good man
Niyaz drop a gear and disappear
Those who don't lift off go off!
I have,driven karts,rally cars and a few track days.... .it's true.
If you go flat out and stay on the road you will win.
A common occurrence, not just for leaner cars but also Prius. (it's like "how dare they in that hybrid", when the chances are they have no idea what a hybrid is).
This is why I chuck my roof box straight in the boot after my lesson has finished, constant crap.
Ever had one of these geniuses find the video of them? I bet the comments are entertaining.
I think the driver of the Nissan is Sandy Webster and he/she has been commenting loads on Ashley's pinned post. Typically they can't see that they've actually done anything wrong and in fact blame Ashley!!
This literally happens to me everyday.
Me too. It's that common I've reached the point now where I try to predict who will do it and who won't. I think some drivers don't realise they're speeding up when they're being overtaken and they back off once I'm alongside but then you get the dicks like this fella in the Nissan. Sometimes they can become downright dangerous.
Ive had the same thing happen to me on more than one occasion when using cruise control and I dont have a liveried driving school car or L plates. I think that some people dont like it when you overtake them and dont then go roaring off into the horizon, they dont use cruise control and dont realise you are maintaining your speed, unlike them, they probably think that its you who are overtaking them and then slowing down.
For that few minutes of the video, the entire central purpose of the life of that Nissan driver was to fight some unilaterally-agreed war with you, a complete stranger. What a sad way to live.
My work van has a limiter set at 70MPH and I end up yoyoing or coming past in labe three and they speed up so I can't get past. I really hate people who can't keep a constant speed.
Nissan drivers are some of the worst, the worst of all are Juke drivers.
Agreed 100%
Juke drivers def but on my time on the roads, not many nissans were that bad
I thought they were called, Nissan Jokes..
You mean Women ?
Well they've obviously no interest in driving, not got good taste in car and suffer from poor decision making. It's a juke. Horrible looking dome tent on stilts
Always have this problem, especially when driving at night and in the slow/cruise lane.
Some idiot wants to always drive up behind and flash their lights for you to move when there are 2 or 3 lanes open
The beauty of cruise control is this. You can see how other drivers react when you approach. Specially the ones like the Nissan driver. Not only in the UK, not only with learners cars.
Nissans are the BMWs of people who don't think they are wankers. At least BMW drivers play the part.
Atleast BMW drivers have the mental capacity to intentionally be assholes lol
@@wetlettuce4768 They are just people with weak emotions and problem with driving in quite intensive trafic. Everytime all lines are full of cars and needs slow, paralel driving they start to monkeying.
@Robyn Highart just want to put out there I'm a 19 year old BMW driver and definitely agree that most BMW drivers are cunts, literally think that they own the road and having that car excuses them from having any common courtesy😂😂and no, mine isnt some 2005 clapped as fuck shitbox with fake Msport badges😂
@@JG-bt9xr The worst BMW drivers are in a 1 series
@@MrRohanThomas cheers mate thats what Ive got🙏🙏
Dont understand the animosity towards learner cars. At the end of the day, they’re often following highway code to the T.
This is the kind of thing I see regularly at work. I'm a HGV driver and limited to 53mph, so coming along a motorway at 53mph, I catch up with a slower car, I wait for a big gap so I don't hold up other motorists, out I go, overtake and come back in.... just for the slow car to overtake me, pull back in and slow down. This could happen multiple times along a long motorway. Or I'll pull out, get half way up their car, and they speed off, so I pull back in..... they slow down again!
Since doing a speed awareness course I drive and ride at legal limits these days, the amount of people that upsets though, especially in 30's, 40's and motorways.
Do you do the speed on your speedometer though or the actual speed on the GPS? Speedometers over-read so you're likely going slower than it reads.
Also, people who drive slower up hill and speed up going down, why cant't we be better than this! *Rage*
Some vehicles just don't climb Hills very well, my dads ford ranger literally looses rpm up steep hills because the trans is so shit, just food for thought
@@xNosVids same with my moms avensis. it has some weird after market cruise control that doesnt seem to control anything. i think it just locks the speed pedal so its faster downhill and slower uphill.
It's called ecodriving. Rather than waste gas going uphill and then brake on the descent, you maintain the same gas pedal position going uphill so that when you descend you don't have to brake.
Such bad driving. Why are people so obsessed with hogging the middle lane? Are they that lazy that they can't manage lane changes or is it really down to the fact that motorways scare them and they just have to get in a lane and stay there?
I actually prefer the left lane and if I overtake, I'm relieved to get back onto it lol. You're a lot closer to the hard shoulder if something starts to go wrong with the car and you don't get people coming up behind you at 90mph as much.
@@alisonwilliams4862 You've no choice unless you are overtaking. And that's law.
@@Seanmcdhuibhne I know, I'm in it about 98% of the time because I stick to the limit. I just mean that if I had a choice of lanes like middle lane hoggers seem to think, I would still prefer the left lane cos I feel a bit safer in it (except when cars are joining the motorway.)
@@seankinvarra1123 Overtake them! The 2% of the time where I am not in the left lane is where I am overtaking! :)
But it doesn't happen that much cos most of the time it is ME doing 60mph in the left lane. Speed scares me a bit cos I always imagine having a blowout on the motorway!
@@seankinvarra1123 No, I would overtake them in lane 3 or 4 respectively! I know how to use a motorway lol. The reason why I tend to stay in lane 1 is because I use motorways more when they're less busy due to the times I work and due to the fact that my car engine doesn't seem very powerful between 40 and 70 so it's a bit scary joining motorway traffic when I'm only doing about 58 by the end of the slip road!
One of my pet hates, when you move over to let someone pass and they refuse to pass.
Once talking to another HGV driver about cars not moving to an empty lane ( 3 ) when you are trying to move out from lane 1 . His answer was . " Not a problem , I indicate and start moving, as I'm in an 18 Tonner and it don't belong to me . They soon move over " .
Not a solution I condone but understand.
Indicative of Qashqai drivers! I feel your pain as an ex-lorry driver.
Yeah, Qashqai drivers are pretty crap here in Denmark, too.
Only surpassed by Peugeot drivers and women in micro cars texting.
Add Renault Kadjar and such like cars to that list.
This is a genuine question, and I very well could be wrong. In the situation when you are approaching the lorry in the distance but the Nissan is almost parallel with you, meaning you can't overtake - is it not *more* appropriate for you to disable cruise control and let the engine breaking slow you down slightly (being as there was nobody behind you) and then move out of your lane when it's safe to do so, rather than blasting a bit of gas and shooting out in front of him? I've always thought it isn't another drivers job to facilitate the overtake but our job to do it when it's safe to do so.
BenEmm I thought Ashley had entered the lane with the Nissan too close behind when it has priority. I’d have slowed down a bit more to let the Nissan pass and then change to the middle lane. Still, the Nissan behaved appallingly
What happened there is the Nissan driver thinks that because the learning car with all the 'L's' and sign on the roof (assuming you had one up) meant that being overtaken was a personal insult and such insubbordination will not be tolerated blah blah blah. This would be the type of so called driver that would be breaking the law to overtake just so they can be ahead given a suitable gap. People like that end up having a bad scare (which they don't learn from) or worse and end up taking innocent lives with them. I feel that refresher courses something similar should be mandatory for all road users and not just professional drivers who by law must take CPC modules (not sure what they are called in the UK) every year.
Middle lane hogging/Any lane hogging for that matter should be I feel a £50 1point on your license penalty. People would soon learn.
My daily commute is filled with this shit driving. I love sitting in lane 1 passing everyone on the inside at 70 whilst they are all crawling along at 50/60 in lane 2 and 3 bumper to bumper because their egos deny them to move over in to lane 1
I do a lot of Motorway driving as part of my job, I too have cruise control which I set at 70mph, this happens a lot in my opinion. another example of poor driving by the Nissan!
Maybe you shoudl stop using cruise control. I personally would never dream of using it on a fast road, far too much loss of control!
@@davidclark2932 I've been driving ( completely accident free) for just over 30 years now, I have my Motorcycle licence & PSV licence so feel qualified to give an opinion on this matter. I do not agree with you at all, for the past 15 years I have driven approximately 35K mls a year and in my opinion its a fantastic option in a car, if more people used it our speeds would be more regulated = less bad drivers causing accidents.
@@Headshot1002 Personally I find cruise control scare on the motorway, less so in town. It is good near a speed camera at a 30 zone! Ashley's use of it shows the less positive side!
I've heard the argument by some that its because they cannot maintain a steady speed when cruising. I personally find this odd as for me at least, as I find keeping at a steady speed without cruise control (have to anyway my car doesnt have it) really easy. I tried it a couple of times on a hire car once and I found out that it actually takes your concentration away to what you're doing when setting it up and you often have to turn it off anyway because everyone else around you are doing different speeds. Just felt it was easier to stick to using the pedals, at least then you're in full control and not at risk of 'switching off' because your feet arent doing anything and the cruise control is simply radar guided to follow the car in front.
How much rent do you reckon they pay to live in that lane?
It's a Qashquai. For some reason or another the drivers of that particular model of car are usually really, really dumb. They either blunder about the roads completely ignorant of all other drivers (going straight at round-a-bouts, lane hogging, doing exclusively 40 in 60 zones and 30 zones, or they do this sort of shit. I've seen them slow right down in lane 2 of 2 and hold people up for miles for no apparent reason.
bmused55 Holy shit, I’m not the only one that has noticed Qashqai drivers are terrible, are you from Denmark by any chance?
I use cruise control all the time, but if there's one problem with it, it's this. People without cruise control can "cruise" at a certain throttle just by not adjusting the accelerator. This means that when they get to an incline they slow down and when they get to a downhill they speed up. With cruise control your speed's constant (not your throttle) and you can get into a "battle" with them: overtaking on uphill stretches and being overtaken on downhill stretches as cruise control increases and decreases throttle. A brief burst of speed to put some distance between you is all that's needed, but can initially make it look as if you're being petty and not wishing to be overtaken. On motorways I sometimes wish it was throttle that was kept constant.
One of the reasons I like the French motorways better. The 80 mph speed limit is a bit too high for most to drive comfortably on. Leaving you with a nice 15/20 mph buffer to overtake.
And the faster traffic that keeps it at 80 will intimidate the slower cars back to the inner lanes.
At 70 however, the speed difference is too slow and every overtake has to be either floored at 75/80 for a brief instant or be a slow crawling past....
There are far too many drivers out there who swear at and blame everyone else for their own bad driving. I have even seen driving instructors going the wrong way on one way systems,so there is no hope for the pupils, and as for the lack of lights or indicators,well ???
But you know speed is the boogeyman. You can't suggest raising speed limits you can only ever lower them.
Yeah but ain't french driving worse though, i mean look at Paris.
The nissan is lane hogging anyways you only use the middle lane for overtaking 🙄
You know after a long time I don’t think I could handle being a driving instructor again. My health and my mental health could not deal with this kind of thing every day of my life.
There’s a Facebook group where you can ‘report’ bad driving. If I remember rightly, you just search for the licence number and then you can comment on how thick the driver was being.
GOOD video... I have drove on UK roads for over 25 Years without ANY accidents AT ALL..
I find it is ALWAYS best to back down to grade one wankers like this Black Nissan...
Just let them have there "Mini victory" there life must be so shit if this is how they get there kicks.
My Honda Civic type R has MORE than enough grunt to see of the likes of this Nissan .BUT why bother?
Just let them go.
84k views so far, by now the driver of the nissan must have been shown this clip :-)
I got stopped by the police for exactly what was happening in this video, I knew the police were around and was trying to overtake a car in the middle lane doing between 60 and 75 mpg , everytime I overtook he sped up, so I moved back in behind, and he slowed down, eventually after about 6 failed attempts the police pulled me over as they couldn't understand why I was moving around so much. No charge of course and as I was driving to London late at night with no pressure of time, being stopped didn't matter to me.
Well played.
I've seen this many times on the motorway. If you're on cruise control at 70 you will sometimes find yourself on the same piece of road as someone who is trying to drive a constant 70 without cruise control. This can mean that they're constantly driving a little bit less than 70 and having to accelerate, followed by a period of driving a little bit more than 70 and having to slow down. If you're doing the same speed throughout you can find yourself in conflict with them, without either of you doing anything wrong.
The trick is not to accelerate past and then go back to your cruise control 70. That can simply piss them off, as you've found. Instead, you need to break the cycle by either accelerating for a spell until you are well past them or slowing down for a while until they are well past you. Get out of the same part of the road as them and the problem will disappear.
I don't have cruise control but I can keep my foot in the same place lol. I think this guy was just an idiot, going too slow in the wrong lane.
CLOD. Centre Lane Owner Driver.
I like it!
Only surpassed by the British Outside Lane Owners Club.
As Clarkson said "if you drive a crap car you have no interest in cars, if you have no interest in cars you have no interest in driving, and to have no interest in something means you're no good at it".
And to think that some people are complaining that Mr Neal was stupid for sitting on cruise control. What's the point of having it, then? How does it make the Nissan's actions any less justifiable lol? The only thing wrong in this clip is the size of the nissan driver's ego, not bloody cruise control for God's sake.
When I see lane hogs and I can't overtake, then I undertake and watch them being aggravated by the results of their own lack of lane discipline. I lost count of those doing it on purpose to trigger others.
Poor chap. Can only afford a Nissan shitbox.
Nissan should be done for driving without due care and attention for obstructing traffic flow and displaying improper lane discipline.
02:50 is the _exact_ scenario that causes people to sit in the middle lane. Dealing with these planks is not worth the effort.
Get this all the time as a truck driver max speed 56 and set cruise to 56mph... then get someone in a car doing about 55... as soon as you catch them up and pull out to overtake they realise and increase their speed.... pull back into lane 1 and then repeat the process... so frustrating and dangerous
After watching a few of your clips including the one at the tempory traffic lights that ended up with loads of cars stuck after 2 jumped a light, i have noticed that you seem to take a stance of i am in the right so everyone else can do one... even when you know that it is inconvenience other road users or even being potentially dangerous.... is this the correct attitude to take in your opinion?
It seems to be the case as i have seen at least one clip where you have told a pupil to continue as "we are in the right here" surely this isn't the kind of attitude you want a new driver picking up? Knowingly continuing into a situation that you can cleary see is going to cause a problem because your in the right?
A lot of the clips including this one the incident could of been easy avoided by just slowing down and allowing the problem vehical to go on his way... Yes you are in the right but surly as a driving instructor you should exercise some common sense and try to avoid theses situations?
You wouldn't use a zebra crossing if you could clearly see that an approaching vehical had no intention of stopping just because you would be in the right in doing so... it would be dangerous.
These are all genuine questions and I would really appreciate a reply.
Defensive driving.
@@MrZoomZone So knowingly entering into potentially dangerous situations because your in the right is "defensive driveing"?
@@Adampeterdale No. I meant getting away from this potentially dangerous guy by dropping back and chilling might be worth considering. Time for defensive driving.
@@MrZoomZone Sry mate... misunderstood the meaning of your comment... complete agree 👍
In this case, it would have meant surrendering the right to use the speed limit and the right to overtake on a clear motorway. Sometimes you have to stick up for yourself. How long should he have driven behind the Nissan, accepting being bullied and afraid to try to overtake? That kind of thing invites more aggression. You'll notice that while the Nissan driver was still an arse, they gave up trying to intimidate the learner car, once they realised they were prepared to assert themselves on the road by refusing to be boxed in behind the lorry.
Motorways aren't places where you can throw a tantrum, not happy about being passed drive single lane tracks.
As a fellow cruise control user it’s such a joy when you end up following someone who’s got theirs set to the same speed. Like taking your socks off after a long day! 😂
Disliking the fact that they are over taken by a learner vehicle. The driving version of fragile masculinity.
Never use the term "fragile masculinity" in a serious sentence again.
I feel like your decision to move into his lane, when you were catching a car in yours, was poor. He doesn’t have to let you over just because you indicated, and forcing your way out in a less than ideal space is not what we expect from learners, let alone instructors.
ZaheenX well, aren't you a moron?
ZaheenX haha did I hit a nerve? Don't like it when someone points out your inadequacies?
ZaheenX life’s got to be tiring with that pitiful attitude you have.
ZaheenX says the little man who had to reply to a critical comment of someone else by exposing themselves as a worthless sack of shit. 10/10 tactic.
flip inheck considering he was catching the cars in the outside lane, it wouldn't be "hogging"...
This kind of thing happens to me on a daily basis.
I’m a coach driver and the top speed is 62mph which I set my cruise control to. I’ve lost count the amount of times I attempt to overtake a vehicle for it then to speed up , hence making me pull back into first lane . They then slow down and I make same manoeuvre etc etc
It drives me insane, and I will never understand why drivers do this
I have seen this happen with recovery vehicles, which I know are limited to 80kph being gamed on the M50 which has a limit on much ( not all ) of its length to 100 kph. Cars pull in front of the vehicle and slow down to 70kph. When the vehicle goes for an overtake, the car speed up, overtakes and then brakes in front of the recovery vehicle. I was once or twice rescued by these vehicles and know that they are limited by law on speed that they can do. Some drivers know this and abuse this knowledge to play dangerous games with these vehicles on our roads. These car drivers should be treated very severely by the traffic corps when caught.
I recently purchased a sporty car to go with my mid life crisis. I have had cars accelerate away when I try to pass or even slow down to my speed to show me how fast they can accelerate. It has opened my eyes to how crazy people are.
I have a Lotus Exige and BMW M2
Nobody has ever done this with me
Must be the way you drive?
Perhaps you a rubbish driver,and don't know it!
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Not sure how I feel about this? Without causing offence to the instructor, but I think by the way in which you drove you kinda lowered yourself to the stupid behaviour of that SUV driver rather than just let it go. Yes you perfectly within your rights to be miffed by their driving patterns. However, instructors can anticipate something that will happen far earlier than most drivers. Hence why you mentioned when moving back to lane 1 that the SUV driver would speed up and box you in. Rather than just slow down and let it go you made a choice to speed up over the speed limit and move into lane 2 in front of the SUV not allowing for a safe following distance for the SUV. (Usually 2 seconds in perfect road conditions) Looking at the clip does look a lot closer than necessary. So would it be too prudent to suggest that the SUV driver had reasonable grounds to have a go at you? Probably yes. So I think that you were probably both in the wrong. But thats just my opinion of which no offence was intended just an observation.
No problem from me. Thanks for watching. Ashley
Thanks for the understanding and keep the great content coming.
Ashley shouldn't have to slow down because an erratic driver doesn't want to be overtaken. He handled this situation perfectly, and as he said with the room for error in the speedo he will have still been under the speed limit by on going over 1-2mph on the speedo
And if he'd slowed down, my bet is that the Nissan driver would've slowed down as well. Generally speaking if someone's driving like a wanker I feel a lot more comfortable in front than behind. That way when they inevitably crash I don't get caught up in their shit.
Ashley did nothing wrong. I encounter the same type of problem during my commute on the A406 early in the morning. I also use cruise control when traveling through average speed cam zones. You become painfully aware how badly other drivers hold their speed. They're happy to pootle along at 36mph (in a 40) until my Prius on cruise control catches up and begins to overtake them safely.
Apparently, being overtaken by a humble Prius is sacrilegious to some numpties, so they'll suddenly speed up to simply prevent me from passing. It's comical at best, and rather dangerous at worst. Fortunately, I tend to completely ignore these Moronites, as they're not very bright.
I never block a vehicle behind me moving faster than I am. It's totally illogical.
I get this so often its unreal, I used to have a 2007 Clio, and I never noticed anything different with drivers, some are nice, some are tw***, etc etc. But then I got a brand new Mercedes A-Class last year, and my god I get treated completely differently its unreal. People always feel the need to try and race me, they'll storm up to the back of me to try and overtake me, just so they can feel like they've overtaken a faster car. Same with lanes, I've had people just sit in the fast lane and not let me by for no reason, and I've had people purposely pull out in front of me and block me just so they're not overtaken by a Merc, people always try to race me at the traffic lights too? All I can think it is, is people being jealous of my car, it never happened in my Clio. (btw my driving style didn't change).
Many years ago I once slowly overtook a centre lane hogger on the inside lane on a completely clear inside lane on the M3, whilst riding a small classic motorcycle. I was doing 50 MPH and the Volvo was doing 49 MPH. I gradually undertook him over a distance of 5 miles. Unknown to me an unmarked cop car was watching proceedings unfold and pulled me over. I explained that my bike's top speed was only 52 MPH so moving to the outside lane to overtake the lane hog, with 70 MPH traffic in that lane and moving back to the inside lane would be suicidal. The cop agreed and said I'd acted wisely, pointing out that the situation had been forced onto me.
He drove off and a few miles down the road he'd pulled the lane hog over and was giving him a ticket.
Should never have pulled you over in the first place!
If a copper ever again pulls you in for doing what you described tell him to read this, and when finished to shove it up his arse where his single cell brain is.
www.bikerandbike.co.uk/undertaking-is-not-illegal/
I had a similar experience yesterday, only in my case the other car was a Dacia, and the "brake check" came at the start. That car was happy as long as my old Volvo stayed behind it, but if I tried to pass it, the Dacia would speed up, and then slow down again when I fell in behind. About seven miles later, they eventually continued straight ahead as I turned off to go into town. I seem to get that a lot these days. I think there is some sort of mental superiority complex with these drivers, either because "I'm qualified, I'll show you" in your case, or, "I'm not taking second place to a crappy old 23 year old car" in my case. A year or two ago, I showed one such driver just what my crappy old 23 year old Volvo could do versus his 3 year old Renault. Nowadays I adopt more of "whatever" approach.
some people don't seem to realise that its a motorway, not a racetrack
I was heavy goods driver for 15 years and this was my everyday problem, Trucks are LIMITED between 10 and 14 Miles per hour below the motorway speed limit but for the last five years I've had to play 'Joust' with car drivers who won't do the speed limit but won't allow a big vehicle to pass, so they keep accelerating or overtaking just to slow down once they are in front again. How hard is it to just PICK ONE SPEED and stick with it?
As a driver of a car, I stick to the speed limits. Some lorries won’t have that and get right on my rear bumper.
Ashley Neal - being on the road for nearly 2 years now this reminds me of a drive down the A1 between Newark and worksop a few weeks ago, had my cruise control set to 70mph and roads was light traffic, closed up to a lorry and right lane was clear so indicate and move over no problem. Then passing the lorry there was also another car in front of the lorry also going slower than me so I continue to overtake, and this is where it became interesting not too far ahead was a petrol station and just as I was passing the car a motorcycle pulled out from the petrol station so rather than pulling into the left lane rapidly approaching a slow moving motorcycle while he was still gaining speed I stayed in the right hand lane to allow him to build up his speed and either he pulls away from me or I pass him, I even recieved a polite wave from him for doing so. However in this time a (believe it or not) nissian doing plenty over 70 had appeared behind me and was flashing me giving me all the hand signals they shouldn't because I wasnt prepared to hit a motorcycle which would of happened if I had merged over. The motorcycle sat just of my left wing for a short time then started to gain more speed so as he started to move away I placed my indicator on and allowed a safe gap before moving over to which the yellow menace started to speed up throwing their fingers up in rage as they passed me. If i had moved as they had liked and hit the motorcycle it wouldn't be them in trouble it'll be me so rather than bow to their command I prefer to drive with my safety and that of others. If someone needs to get somewhere fast best to drive properly before you cause yourself a accident.
One of the reasons I did my big bike test..they see an L plate and think they should be ahead.
Rather than sticking obsessively to 70, it would have been easier to go with the flow of traffic. And creeping past at 72 was a mistake too. A minute an indicated 80 wouldn't have risked a speeding ticket and would have allowed you to safely pass and leave the Nissan behind. Cruise control is the enemy of good driving.