Why the hell do people act in this way on UK roads? I thought we were meant to be a developed society? Neanderthal's more like it!!! www.ashleyneal.com
To be honest, and I know this is an old upload, I don’t think you made the correct call this time. You may have already rethought about what your actions were, but I don’t know. Now, this is only my take on what I could see, I may have missed something. So, as you approach the junction with possible merging traffic, you see the vehicle behind doing something stupid. Your action was to change lane, into the lane that is the one that does pose the most danger, the merging traffic. I don’t know if you did that because you tried to prevent the other driver doing something stupid or, you decided to ‘police’ the situation yourself? Either way I think your action in this case was wrong, and it’s only my personal experience and opinion. What you should have done was check the 2nd overtaking lane, and if safe move to there and completely get yourself out of any higher risk situation. You cannot take into account the other drivers on the road state of mind or intelligence, you don’t know them, they could be a complete fool who doesn’t even have a licence. So drive defensive, make sure you are not a contributing factor, my worry would be by ‘blocking their undertake’ you unwittingly trigger an arsehole road rage event. I know it may seem a stretch, but I have seen it all. I’ve been crashed into while stationary, because some idiot had to change lanes, his trailer ripped the front of my car off, but he then blamed me and threatened to ‘knock me the f*** out’, I’ve had an idiot tailgating and flashing headlights while I was slowing for a big accident ahead, they undertook, gave me the single finger as he piled his car into stationary traffic, I have to admit they deserved it, but not the people who he smashed into. My point is the roads are dangerous places, there are idiots everywhere, I have learned over many years it’s much better to place my vehicle, my car or motorcycle in the best place for my survival, whether that’s financial or physical.
I don't think it's because you were in a learner car. I've just posted a video of this type of thing happening to me that went on for 20 miles on the motorway. It really does annoy me. I can't understand why they are unable to drive at a constant speed.
I agree. On occasions it goes on when I'm not in a driving school car, but honestly no way near as often. The constant speed thing is an important point. My thought is people try to keep their foot in one position to keep the speed the same! They obviously don't understand the concept of hills :) Thanks for watching and you're comments :)
That Ford focus was terrible. However it's similar to what happened to me on a 2 lane duel carriageway. A lady stayed in the right lane in a Hyundai i10 I was at 70mph in left lane I had to overtake her in left lane. She held up traffic behind. Thankfully, she moved back to the left after I overlook. The cars behind were not happy. I'd have used 3rd lane if there was more than 2 lanes. Always important to keep to the left unless there's a reason
Anyone know the Black Country route near J10M6. Sunday morning, clear road, followed some distance back by police car. I pulled to the 2nd lane of the dual carriageway, to leave clear a blind slip road, then pulled back when i could see nothing coming up. The police car pulled me over. Yes i thought, you haven't a clue why i pulled right to leave clear the slip road. The near lane is now dedicated to joining traffic and not soon enough.
I suppose the fact that you're a magnet for these petty idiots, is a bit of a blessing - hopefully they change up their act after seeing themselves on camera.
Sinclair , The main part of this is to educate people to not behave in this way, but if that driver see's themselves on the clip it is not for any retribution on my part. No one is the perfect driver including me and we can all improve. Many thanks for watching and your input. Much appreciated :)
I once went on the M4 from London to Bristol, and from Reading there was a Merc in the middle lane. Between there and Bristol I passed the Merc six or more times. They went only in the middle lane at the speed of the traffic, if it was 50mph that is what they did while I passed on the outside at 70mph. When the middle lane was clear the Merc did 90+mph and came charging past only to slow at the next knot of traffic, and did this all the way to Bristol. That was more than 50 miles of driving just in the middle lane, and they showed little sense of any other traffic around them, just what was immediately in front in the middle lane. All too common these days, sadly.
I'm approaching a junction that merges onto the motorway cruising at 60mph in the left lane, I find it's usually safest to accelerate up to 70mph & pull into the middle lane if traffic will be emerging to pass the danger point. But the traffic in this lane is reluctant to let me pull over, often when the right lane is empty or else people flash me in anger even when I pulled over well ahead of them. My current operating theory is pull over if safe to do so, maintain 70mph & proceed as normal. Tough if they are that desperate enough use the overtaking lane & exceed the limit.
Just getting round to watching some of these, which lanes to use seems to confuse some people!, I had to do a online driver training course for work a few years back with multiple choice questions at the end, I failed first go so re did it until I worked out what answers it wanted, What lane do you use for normal driving on a multilane motorway, lane one, lane 2, lane 3, correct answer for quiz was lane 2, it also had one about driving in heavy snow or rain, correct answer was to drive in the ruts of the vehicle in front, how close do you need to be to be in the ruts in rain!. Sent in a list of corrections and questionable questions (safest place to park in car park?, depends on if risk is being hit by another vehicle or mugged), to the HSE manager, training course rapidly disappeared.
I think the driver of the focus slowed and pulled into nearside lane to use the phone or something. Then increased his speed again when he finished. Don't think it was Learner Car related.
I see this depending what car I'm in. Ford Ka and I get the same crap you're experiencing. Type R, no one bothers. Same driving style and speeds in both on fast roads, literally just a different car.
yeah i saw the same difference when i switched from a citroen ax to a toyota corolla. Wtf people, if one's not wealthy, one's not worth being on the bloody road ?
I had this, when I had a Ford Ka at the same time as a Merc AMG, the Ka was like a red rag to a bull if you ever overtook someone, especially if it was some sort of 'performance car'. I have to say I rather liked the Ford Ka, turned in nicely and was very predictable, while the Merc was predictable, save for all the electronic nonsense, it was a bit of a wallowy old boat, it was comfortable A to B but certainly not a particularly enjoyable or engaging drive, whereas the Ka was both enjoyable and engaging (I would do a wink smiley, but I'm not sure how).
@@tummyrubber2k939 I had a Focus for a while, it seems a sort of neutral car, nobody seems to either love them or hate them. I just used to get left alone to do my own thing, rather nice really. Possibly the most ugly car I've ever had though, but it doesn't seem to upset anyone.
There seem to be a lot of drivers who think they are clever getting past on the left. I get this regularly on the M6 especially over Thelwell viaduct. Two empty lanes on the right. It usually happens when I move into lane 2 to pass an HGV driving at 70 on cruise control. They must exceed 90 to get between me and the truck.
I've not traveled in or driven a car for some time. Just a second after 1:07 there's a change in the audio. I initially thought the car had blown a tire and you were making a beeline for the hard shoulder. It continues to sound rough from that point on. Is this a mere gear shift I'm hearing or is it something else ?
I can agree that when people see L plates they act like idiots, saying that people still like idiots regardless but L's are a magnet for people wanting to pass or being offended that a learner car has passed them lol. When I was learning to drive couple of weeks ago, joined onto the dual carriageway from the roundabout, got into the left lane nice and early, and a lorry had the cheek to want to overtake me although I was gaining speed at a fast rate... people are... strange... how they get a licence I dunno. If everyone was to act proper on the road and follow the rules, there would be less accidents, traffic jams and road rage, but hey, can't have everything now can we! haha. Glad I passed last Tuesday and got rid of the L's at least I look like regular traffic now and people are less tempted to overtake me or do silly stuff to just get 1 car ahead of me!
Trust me, if you stick to the speed limit people are tempted to overtake or do silly stuff regardless if you have L plates or not. Just last night, I was on a dual carriageway that had a restricted speed limit of 40mph, which I was doing. It was clear ahead of me, admittedly, but the car behind me thought it would be best to do 60mph+, only to get stopped by a red traffic light half a mile ahead. We ended up at the same set of lights, it's just he had to sit there idling at a stop longer than I did.
Indeed, has happened to me so many times, I'm just there on the dual carriageway doing the maximum speed limit of 70mph and next thing you know got cars flying past me haha, which I'm fine with as long as they don't just pull back in and reduce their speed to the point that I have to over take them again
Thank you very much Ashley Neal ! Umm there is a bit of a difference you have more people treating you as a regular driver which is nice, but still have people do silly things like pointless overtakes when I'm doing the speed limit to which they then slow down again haha, but mostly there's a bit of a difference without the L's but there are still crazy people on the roads lol
One thing I was expecting after the L's were off was when like for example when at rounderbouts being slow going off (still getting used to the bite point on my car) to expect people beep behind as with an Learner driver they tend to hold back a bit, but nope, seems that there are decent people out there!
Drivers don't keep to one speed. They might decide to drive at one speed for a while and then they change it. It could be down to what song they are listening to, how tired they are, how distracted they are or what mood they are in. Sometimes they just decide they don't want to be behind a certain vehicle... or they don't want a particular vehicle to be in their rear mirror. When people see a learner car - they think the driver might do something erratic - and they just want to get well away from them.
Sorry but they over took the slower car then pulled into the slow lane after the over take which is what you should do. They were already in the slow lane before you indicated and effectively cut in front of them at 70mph in the wet. Thought instructors are meant to have better awareness and judgement.
He was staying out at 70 mph just to make sure nothing was merging from the slip road and then pulled into lane 1 before the end of the slip road, it's called forward planning.
I am now a CPC holder and, when I'm out on the road, I now have to accept a fundamental truth... 90-95% of drivers (road users in general) are even stupider than I am. The difference between them and me is simply that I'm willing to accept that I'm not a perfect driver. Like Einstein says "There are only two things which are infinite...". It goes back to the expression they have at Alcoholics Anonymous, "In life, you can be right, or you be happy"; out on the road I think that translates as "You can be right or you can be *safe*". A good attitude compensates for poor skills far better than good skills compensate for a poor attitude... understanding that basic logic is what got me through my PSV test (after only *four* attempts) and subsequent CPC. F@&% it! When in doubt, centre pedal (left pedal on m'bus) and give way. Just let them go; they're going to have an RTC anyway, it just doesn't have to be with me. Cheers Ashley, and be safe. PB ^_^
In Aus, and Victoria at least, we are required, where possible, to move to the right to allow slip lane traffic to enter the freeway smoothly and without interruption. UNFORTUNATELY, a vast number of ' motorists ' believe it to be their God given right to do exactly as they please, and drive with NO regard for any other road user. Patience and courtesy are commodities sadly lacking on our roads these days, and look out if you dare hold up someone for longer than a second. Right Lane Hogs are also in abundance here, with people who are waaaaay too important to drive in lane one when traffic is light. Country Victorian freeways ( mostly two lane ) are their preferred habitat, where you see them chundering along at 5 - 10kph below the posted speed limit, or as their self entitlement allows them, 10 or 15kph above the posted speed limit.
An interesting observation I have made in regards to peoples behaviour in cars vs on the street...In a car I can literally do something as Insignificant as drive to the speed limit and get abuse hurled at me by overtaking, irate drivers. The funny thing is, In the street I have had incidents in busy places where I have physically banged into people, and even knocked a bag out of someone's hands on the tube by being clumsy (by mistake obviously!). Every time they have been nice and understanding. Even sometimes apologising to me!! This should be considered far more offensive and annoying than the pretty things people go irate over while driving. Bizarre how someone's outlook & mentality seems to re-set and change once they climb in the vehicle. Unfortunately petty ego issues seem to plague males in particular in my opinion. The classic M.O is trying to dominate others via physical force. The intellectual, less physically able men switch that and seem to have the urge to do that same thing, but intellectually. It's like an inherent need to impose their will in some way, shape or form which in inherent in so many! Never quite twigging that the need to do this is in fact an advertisement for weakness via insecurity (the ironic opposite of what they are trying to project!). See it so much..Not a fan of men at all and I am a man lol
It's because people are, to quite an extent, "safe" from retaliation inside their protective metal boxes. People do exactly the same thing on pretty much any comments section on CZcams and the wider internet. Forever arguing / trolling beacuse they can come to no physical harm and actually enjoy that feeling.
I never get why people think oh learner let’s be a bellend around them makes no sense to me and the colour of the Ford was ford impact blue sorry just had to point that out lol
It's not just you Ashley in your Learner car, happens to me quit alot in my 23 year old Jeep Cherokee. I'm doing 70 & overtake a car probably doing 60-65, they then notice me & speed up as I'm alongside them, ugggghhh!
@@masondavies1621 🤣 I prefer to keep to the speed limit. Anyway, my old girl can only go above 70 nowadays if we're going downhill with the wind behind us.🤣☹
When we found these clowns on the duals when I was a learner my instructor or mum (whoever I was with at the time) used to make me race them to teach them a lesson
I get the same shit just because i drive a white van. This is the first time ive had a van as my only vehicle and it wasn't long before i noticed other road users treated you differently. And no im not your typical white van man
Cant stand idiots in the middle lane, I understand if theres heavy rain on the surface on an empty motorway but other than that theres zero excuse, I'm an angry driver 😅
Hocus, Pocus; what goes on with that Focus? 😁😁😁😁😁 You're right, Ash..... The driver seriously needs to fkn think about it........ But they won't!!! Your 🤬 language is excused.
If you didn't explain it, people would call you all sorts of things for middle lane hogging. They don't have a clue about anticipating, but loves to insult people for doing things they don't like. I see many people complain about hogging in a lane and expect you to move over, even if you are not that far of the next vehicle you are going to overtake... If you don't you are the prick hogging in that lane. And see this on many reactions of dashcam footage. People start insulting, without having a clue of what happened and anticipating traffic. Besides that it's much easier to see things on a video than in real life.
I noticed Ashley changed two lanes in one manoeuvre at 1:10 with no reset of the indicators. I was taught that this is bad practice as another driver might not realise you're switching more than one lane. Two separate manoeuvres with indicators reset after first change anybody?
There's a sound coinciding with the car briefly going straight in the middle lane (about 1:02), that might be a off and on again of the indicator. I'd pause longer in the middle lane if the traffic was denser but I'd say not unreasonable given the traffic. The return to the left is a bit brisk, but the gap is decent, not like he's cutting anyone up. .
In general yes in this situation there was clearly nobody near him for a good distance. If there were traffic in lane 1 then absolutely should do two separate manoeuvres with separate signals to make it clear to them what he's doing.
The only thing I would have done is moved over sooner, even though you are approaching the entry slip. Don't forget that traffic joining the motorway SHOULD give way to traffic already one the motorway.
That's the problem: "SHOULD" give way - some do not and staying in lane 2 until known traffic from the slip road is safer. Also, by being in lane 2 it helps those joining the motorway to join and could be thought of as driving with consideration for them as it allows them to accelerate along the slip road and to enter the motorway safely - the traffic is light enough that by staying in lane 2 that little bit longer it will not be inconsiderate to other road users already on the motorway. Once it is known to be safe to return to lane 1 (without possibly impeding the progress of another road user) then return to lane 1. There is nothing more frustrating than having your progress impeded unnecessarily when joining a motorway - lanes 2 & 3 are empty and someone on the motorway just sits in lane 1 blocking someone joining the main carriageway; there may be no law saying they must move over to let someone join, but to move over to let someone join is driving with consideration for that other road user and there is a law that requires that.
The instructor on an advanced course told me to allow five indicator clicks before changing lanes on a motorway or dual carriageway when driving close tothe speed limit. You seem to be signalling a bit late.
Needless driving in the middle lane really grinds my gears.
Or worse, those who sit in the outside overtaking lane.
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To be honest, and I know this is an old upload, I don’t think you made the correct call this time. You may have already rethought about what your actions were, but I don’t know.
Now, this is only my take on what I could see, I may have missed something.
So, as you approach the junction with possible merging traffic, you see the vehicle behind doing something stupid. Your action was to change lane, into the lane that is the one that does pose the most danger, the merging traffic. I don’t know if you did that because you tried to prevent the other driver doing something stupid or, you decided to ‘police’ the situation yourself? Either way I think your action in this case was wrong, and it’s only my personal experience and opinion.
What you should have done was check the 2nd overtaking lane, and if safe move to there and completely get yourself out of any higher risk situation. You cannot take into account the other drivers on the road state of mind or intelligence, you don’t know them, they could be a complete fool who doesn’t even have a licence.
So drive defensive, make sure you are not a contributing factor, my worry would be by ‘blocking their undertake’ you unwittingly trigger an arsehole road rage event. I know it may seem a stretch, but I have seen it all.
I’ve been crashed into while stationary, because some idiot had to change lanes, his trailer ripped the front of my car off, but he then blamed me and threatened to ‘knock me the f*** out’, I’ve had an idiot tailgating and flashing headlights while I was slowing for a big accident ahead, they undertook, gave me the single finger as he piled his car into stationary traffic, I have to admit they deserved it, but not the people who he smashed into.
My point is the roads are dangerous places, there are idiots everywhere, I have learned over many years it’s much better to place my vehicle, my car or motorcycle in the best place for my survival, whether that’s financial or physical.
I don't think it's because you were in a learner car. I've just posted a video of this type of thing happening to me that went on for 20 miles on the motorway. It really does annoy me. I can't understand why they are unable to drive at a constant speed.
I agree. On occasions it goes on when I'm not in a driving school car, but honestly no way near as often. The constant speed thing is an important point. My thought is people try to keep their foot in one position to keep the speed the same! They obviously don't understand the concept of hills :) Thanks for watching and you're comments :)
did it not occur to him that you're not the learner, with you driving on the motorway? ahah I don't understand this sort of behaviour anyway :/
Me neither! Thanks for watching :)
From :30 to 1:02 very close to vehicle in front on on a damp - wet road.
Was the focus trying to intimidate you by going got the undertake? What is the point in that when the third lane was available?!
That Ford focus was terrible. However it's similar to what happened to me on a 2 lane duel carriageway. A lady stayed in the right lane in a Hyundai i10 I was at 70mph in left lane I had to overtake her in left lane. She held up traffic behind. Thankfully, she moved back to the left after I overlook. The cars behind were not happy. I'd have used 3rd lane if there was more than 2 lanes. Always important to keep to the left unless there's a reason
Hi Ashley, I am really enjoying your videos, you are so calm at the wheel.
Just realised where this is, used to visit my dad at Broadgreen Hospital.
Anyone know the Black Country route near J10M6. Sunday morning, clear road, followed some distance back by police car. I pulled to the 2nd lane of the dual carriageway, to leave clear a blind slip road, then pulled back when i could see nothing coming up. The police car pulled me over. Yes i thought, you haven't a clue why i pulled right to leave clear the slip road. The near lane is now dedicated to joining traffic and not soon enough.
I suppose the fact that you're a magnet for these petty idiots, is a bit of a blessing - hopefully they change up their act after seeing themselves on camera.
Sinclair , The main part of this is to educate people to not behave in this way, but if that driver see's themselves on the clip it is not for any retribution on my part. No one is the perfect driver including me and we can all improve. Many thanks for watching and your input. Much appreciated :)
I once went on the M4 from London to Bristol, and from Reading there was a Merc in the middle lane. Between there and Bristol I passed the Merc six or more times. They went only in the middle lane at the speed of the traffic, if it was 50mph that is what they did while I passed on the outside at 70mph. When the middle lane was clear the Merc did 90+mph and came charging past only to slow at the next knot of traffic, and did this all the way to Bristol. That was more than 50 miles of driving just in the middle lane, and they showed little sense of any other traffic around them, just what was immediately in front in the middle lane. All too common these days, sadly.
how did they feel when they where learning to drive a car ? i really hope someone did the same thing to them when they where learning
I'm approaching a junction that merges onto the motorway cruising at 60mph in the left lane, I find it's usually safest to accelerate up to 70mph & pull into the middle lane if traffic will be emerging to pass the danger point. But the traffic in this lane is reluctant to let me pull over, often when the right lane is empty or else people flash me in anger even when I pulled over well ahead of them. My current operating theory is pull over if safe to do so, maintain 70mph & proceed as normal. Tough if they are that desperate enough use the overtaking lane & exceed the limit.
Just getting round to watching some of these, which lanes to use seems to confuse some people!, I had to do a online driver training course for work a few years back with multiple choice questions at the end, I failed first go so re did it until I worked out what answers it wanted, What lane do you use for normal driving on a multilane motorway, lane one, lane 2, lane 3, correct answer for quiz was lane 2, it also had one about driving in heavy snow or rain, correct answer was to drive in the ruts of the vehicle in front, how close do you need to be to be in the ruts in rain!. Sent in a list of corrections and questionable questions (safest place to park in car park?, depends on if risk is being hit by another vehicle or mugged), to the HSE manager, training course rapidly disappeared.
I think the driver of the focus slowed and pulled into nearside
lane to use the phone or something. Then increased his speed again when he finished.
Don't think it was Learner Car related.
I see this depending what car I'm in. Ford Ka and I get the same crap you're experiencing. Type R, no one bothers. Same driving style and speeds in both on fast roads, literally just a different car.
yeah i saw the same difference when i switched from a citroen ax to a toyota corolla. Wtf people, if one's not wealthy, one's not worth being on the bloody road ?
I had this, when I had a Ford Ka at the same time as a Merc AMG, the Ka was like a red rag to a bull if you ever overtook someone, especially if it was some sort of 'performance car'. I have to say I rather liked the Ford Ka, turned in nicely and was very predictable, while the Merc was predictable, save for all the electronic nonsense, it was a bit of a wallowy old boat, it was comfortable A to B but certainly not a particularly enjoyable or engaging drive, whereas the Ka was both enjoyable and engaging (I would do a wink smiley, but I'm not sure how).
@@garethtatler6886 I find the opposite in a BMW. People like to try to "out BMW" me on the daily. When I had a focus I had none of these problems.
@@tummyrubber2k939 I had a Focus for a while, it seems a sort of neutral car, nobody seems to either love them or hate them. I just used to get left alone to do my own thing, rather nice really. Possibly the most ugly car I've ever had though, but it doesn't seem to upset anyone.
There seem to be a lot of drivers who think they are clever getting past on the left. I get this regularly on the M6 especially over Thelwell viaduct. Two empty lanes on the right. It usually happens when I move into lane 2 to pass an HGV driving at 70 on cruise control. They must exceed 90 to get between me and the truck.
Move back in promptly when finished the overtake. 90mph seems too fast to cut in between you and the car you've just overtaken.
@@saundersdachicken6197 If I go back into lane 1 after every overtake I get stuck in that lane. I cannot make reasonable progress.
@@DisleyDavid O my apology. I could have swore you said "Two empty lanes to the right"
I've not traveled in or driven a car for some time. Just a second after 1:07 there's a change in the audio. I initially thought the car had blown a tire and you were making a beeline for the hard shoulder. It continues to sound rough from that point on. Is this a mere gear shift I'm hearing or is it something else ?
Now come on ashley. Its blue.
I can agree that when people see L plates they act like idiots, saying that people still like idiots regardless but L's are a magnet for people wanting to pass or being offended that a learner car has passed them lol. When I was learning to drive couple of weeks ago, joined onto the dual carriageway from the roundabout, got into the left lane nice and early, and a lorry had the cheek to want to overtake me although I was gaining speed at a fast rate... people are... strange... how they get a licence I dunno.
If everyone was to act proper on the road and follow the rules, there would be less accidents, traffic jams and road rage, but hey, can't have everything now can we! haha. Glad I passed last Tuesday and got rid of the L's at least I look like regular traffic now and people are less tempted to overtake me or do silly stuff to just get 1 car ahead of me!
Trust me, if you stick to the speed limit people are tempted to overtake or do silly stuff regardless if you have L plates or not. Just last night, I was on a dual carriageway that had a restricted speed limit of 40mph, which I was doing. It was clear ahead of me, admittedly, but the car behind me thought it would be best to do 60mph+, only to get stopped by a red traffic light half a mile ahead. We ended up at the same set of lights, it's just he had to sit there idling at a stop longer than I did.
Indeed, has happened to me so many times, I'm just there on the dual carriageway doing the maximum speed limit of 70mph and next thing you know got cars flying past me haha, which I'm fine with as long as they don't just pull back in and reduce their speed to the point that I have to over take them again
Well done on passing! Have you noticed a difference without the "L" Plates?
Thank you very much Ashley Neal ! Umm there is a bit of a difference you have more people treating you as a regular driver which is nice, but still have people do silly things like pointless overtakes when I'm doing the speed limit to which they then slow down again haha, but mostly there's a bit of a difference without the L's but there are still crazy people on the roads lol
One thing I was expecting after the L's were off was when like for example when at rounderbouts being slow going off (still getting used to the bite point on my car) to expect people beep behind as with an Learner driver they tend to hold back a bit, but nope, seems that there are decent people out there!
Drivers don't keep to one speed. They might decide to drive at one speed for a while and then they change it. It could be down to what song they are listening to, how tired they are, how distracted they are or what mood they are in. Sometimes they just decide they don't want to be behind a certain vehicle... or they don't want a particular vehicle to be in their rear mirror. When people see a learner car - they think the driver might do something erratic - and they just want to get well away from them.
Sorry but they over took the slower car then pulled into the slow lane after the over take which is what you should do. They were already in the slow lane before you indicated and effectively cut in front of them at 70mph in the wet. Thought instructors are meant to have better awareness and judgement.
it's not the slow lane never has been called that in the highway code
He was staying out at 70 mph just to make sure nothing was merging from the slip road and then pulled into lane 1 before the end of the slip road, it's called forward planning.
The number of times I see this, at this junction and Tarbock is astonishing.
Got hit by a van on Tarbock myself a few years back. He got out and said I did it on purpose!!
I am now a CPC holder and, when I'm out on the road, I now have to accept a fundamental truth... 90-95% of drivers (road users in general) are even stupider than I am.
The difference between them and me is simply that I'm willing to accept that I'm not a perfect driver. Like Einstein says "There are only two things which are infinite...".
It goes back to the expression they have at Alcoholics Anonymous, "In life, you can be right, or you be happy"; out on the road I think that translates as "You can be right or you can be *safe*".
A good attitude compensates for poor skills far better than good skills compensate for a poor attitude... understanding that basic logic is what got me through my PSV test (after only *four* attempts) and subsequent CPC.
F@&% it! When in doubt, centre pedal (left pedal on m'bus) and give way. Just let them go; they're going to have an RTC anyway, it just doesn't have to be with me.
Cheers Ashley, and be safe.
PB ^_^
The passive-aggressive behaviour in this clip is hilariously British!
(I'm British, so...)
There is, of course, no limit to the number of times someone can pass you on a motorway.
In Aus, and Victoria at least, we are required, where possible, to move to the right to allow slip lane traffic to enter the freeway smoothly and without interruption. UNFORTUNATELY, a vast number of ' motorists ' believe it to be their God given right to do exactly as they please, and drive with NO regard for any other road user. Patience and courtesy are commodities sadly lacking on our roads these days, and look out if you dare hold up someone for longer than a second. Right Lane Hogs are also in abundance here, with people who are waaaaay too important to drive in lane one when traffic is light. Country Victorian freeways ( mostly two lane ) are their preferred habitat, where you see them chundering along at 5 - 10kph below the posted speed limit, or as their self entitlement allows them, 10 or 15kph above the posted speed limit.
Haha you can the man out of Liverpool but you can't take the Liverpool out the man...
An interesting observation I have made in regards to peoples behaviour in cars vs on the street...In a car I can literally do something as Insignificant as drive to the speed limit and get abuse hurled at me by overtaking, irate drivers. The funny thing is, In the street I have had incidents in busy places where I have physically banged into people, and even knocked a bag out of someone's hands on the tube by being clumsy (by mistake obviously!). Every time they have been nice and understanding. Even sometimes apologising to me!!
This should be considered far more offensive and annoying than the pretty things people go irate over while driving. Bizarre how someone's outlook & mentality seems to re-set and change once they climb in the vehicle. Unfortunately petty ego issues seem to plague males in particular in my opinion. The classic M.O is trying to dominate others via physical force. The intellectual, less physically able men switch that and seem to have the urge to do that same thing, but intellectually. It's like an inherent need to impose their will in some way, shape or form which in inherent in so many! Never quite twigging that the need to do this is in fact an advertisement for weakness via insecurity (the ironic opposite of what they are trying to project!). See it so much..Not a fan of men at all and I am a man lol
It's because people are, to quite an extent, "safe" from retaliation inside their protective metal boxes. People do exactly the same thing on pretty much any comments section on CZcams and the wider internet. Forever arguing / trolling beacuse they can come to no physical harm and actually enjoy that feeling.
@@cyderman69 Agreed
I never get why people think oh learner let’s be a bellend around them makes no sense to me and the colour of the Ford was ford impact blue sorry just had to point that out lol
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Same shit different day
I’m starting to believe some people actually get their driving license from Lego Land 😂
Adam Wheeler the Lego land license and the DVSA license give you an equal amount of motorway driving practice, so yes, they might as well have
It's not just you Ashley in your Learner car, happens to me quit alot in my 23 year old Jeep Cherokee. I'm doing 70 & overtake a car probably doing 60-65, they then notice me & speed up as I'm alongside them, ugggghhh!
That's why a drive a 300hp car, drop a gear and disappear😂😂
@@masondavies1621 🤣 I prefer to keep to the speed limit. Anyway, my old girl can only go above 70 nowadays if we're going downhill with the wind behind us.🤣☹
😂😂 fair enough mate
When we found these clowns on the duals when I was a learner my instructor or mum (whoever I was with at the time) used to make me race them to teach them a lesson
I get the same shit just because i drive a white van.
This is the first time ive had a van as my only vehicle and it wasn't long before i noticed other road users treated you differently.
And no im not your typical white van man
Maybe it’s racism?
Cant stand idiots in the middle lane, I understand if theres heavy rain on the surface on an empty motorway but other than that theres zero excuse, I'm an angry driver 😅
No wonder autonomus cars is comming.
I could imagine driving one for a few years then getting back into a manual car. The standard of their driving would be of a very poor standard.
Hocus, Pocus; what goes on with that Focus? 😁😁😁😁😁
You're right, Ash.....
The driver seriously needs to fkn think about it........
But they won't!!!
Your 🤬 language is excused.
If you didn't explain it, people would call you all sorts of things for middle lane hogging. They don't have a clue about anticipating, but loves to insult people for doing things they don't like. I see many people complain about hogging in a lane and expect you to move over, even if you are not that far of the next vehicle you are going to overtake... If you don't you are the prick hogging in that lane. And see this on many reactions of dashcam footage. People start insulting, without having a clue of what happened and anticipating traffic. Besides that it's much easier to see things on a video than in real life.
I noticed Ashley changed two lanes in one manoeuvre at 1:10 with no reset of the indicators. I was taught that this is bad practice as another driver might not realise you're switching more than one lane. Two separate manoeuvres with indicators reset after first change anybody?
There's a sound coinciding with the car briefly going straight in the middle lane (about 1:02), that might be a off and on again of the indicator.
I'd pause longer in the middle lane if the traffic was denser but I'd say not unreasonable given the traffic.
The return to the left is a bit brisk, but the gap is decent, not like he's cutting anyone up.
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In general yes in this situation there was clearly nobody near him for a good distance. If there were traffic in lane 1 then absolutely should do two separate manoeuvres with separate signals to make it clear to them what he's doing.
The only thing I would have done is moved over sooner, even though you are approaching the entry slip.
Don't forget that traffic joining the motorway SHOULD give way to traffic already one the motorway.
That's the problem: "SHOULD" give way - some do not and staying in lane 2 until known traffic from the slip road is safer.
Also, by being in lane 2 it helps those joining the motorway to join and could be thought of as driving with consideration for them as it allows them to accelerate along the slip road and to enter the motorway safely - the traffic is light enough that by staying in lane 2 that little bit longer it will not be inconsiderate to other road users already on the motorway. Once it is known to be safe to return to lane 1 (without possibly impeding the progress of another road user) then return to lane 1.
There is nothing more frustrating than having your progress impeded unnecessarily when joining a motorway - lanes 2 & 3 are empty and someone on the motorway just sits in lane 1 blocking someone joining the main carriageway; there may be no law saying they must move over to let someone join, but to move over to let someone join is driving with consideration for that other road user and there is a law that requires that.
The problem is your doing dot on 70. Try doing 74 and all your problems will go away.
No respect at all
The instructor on an advanced course told me to allow five indicator clicks before changing lanes on a motorway or dual carriageway when driving close tothe speed limit. You seem to be signalling a bit late.
Thats a lot
Happy to excuse the language .... but sometimes you really do sound VERY Liverpool.