South Dakota Learjet crash, the loss of a Champion - N47BA
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- On October 25, 1999, a chartered Learjet 35 business jet was scheduled to fly from Orlando, Florida, United States to Dallas, Texas, United States. Early in the flight, the aircraft, which was climbing to its assigned altitude on autopilot, lost cabin pressure, and all six on board were incapacitated by hypoxia, a lack of oxygen in the brain and body. The aircraft continued climbing past its assigned altitude, then failed to make the westward turn toward Dallas over North Florida and continued on its northwestern course, flying over the southern and midwestern United States for almost four hours and 1,500 miles (2,400 km). The plane ran out of fuel over South Dakota and crashed into a field near Aberdeen after an uncontrolled descent.
The four passengers on board were PGA golfer Payne Stewart; his agent, and former Alabama football QB, Robert Fraley; president of the agency, Van Ardan; and Bruce Borland, a golf architect with the Jack Nicklaus golf course design company.
Source: NTSB final report
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I remember this all too well, I had just met Payne at Pinehurst where he had won the US open in stellar fashion and he graciously signed a few things for me and was extremely cordial and kind. Just a tragedy of epic proportions and felt and still feel so bad for his family.
Prayers go out for them
What a loss....what a guy....what a champion. We miss you Payne....
I was fortunate to see him at the US OPEN at Olympic Club in 1998.
Another tragedy like this occurred with Helios Airways in Greece. Most people know about that one, but it's certainly like this accident, just on a much larger scale. Well done video and very interesting details about hypoxia.
What was the code of the plane? I remember seeing a documentary on it but I can't find it again.
I’ll always remember when Payne came to Grand Blanc MI for the Buick open the year prior and played in an amateur tournament which I caddied for my dad during. Afterwards, he was invited to our families humble home which kindly did and visited with all of our family and friends, just a true gentleman and down to earth man…Not too many pros would have done something like that, but Payne did and it was one of our fondest memories! He is definitely missed and honored.
That’s a very cool story, you’re lucky 👍
What year was that? I'm from Flint and I used to do a lot of caddying at Warwick Hills.
I lived in NW Iowa when this happened; we saw Payne's plane and it was flanked by two F 16's; we were confused why two F 16's were flying in formation with a private plane! Later that afternoon we heard what had happened!
I saw the camera footage from the F-16 while I was in the Air Force. It was part of an aircraft crash investigation course.
Pretty good reenactment and explanation of hypoxia. I’ve flown more than 25 different serial numbers of Learjet 35A’s including 21 hours in this very aircraft (35-060). It was by far the worst serial number mechanically that I had ever flown. It even had a “nickname” - 47 Barely Airworthy. 😢 Let’s just say there is a little more to this story, but even I have some questions. GODSPEED!
Poor maintenance or a lemon straight from Lear?
hit job
Yeah like the rear bulk head which produced an AD
@@elonmust7470you talking about a certain Asian nation being upset with him?
I've heard the hit job theory and with the world today I would not be surprised one bit
So sad. My dear, late Mother was a big Payne Stewart fan. RiP... 😔
I was fortunate to see him at the US OPEN at Olympic Club in 1998.
I remember this when it happened 😢 I watch golf with my dad sometimes and my dad liked Payne Stewart.
I was fortunate to see him at the US OPEN at Olympic Club in 1998.
My mom was a big fan too. She loved him in his plus fours
What a bad break for Stewart, especially since he was at the top of his game as a golf professional, not to mention for the rest of the passengers and crew. These kinds of accidents are rare.
My first video watched! I liked and subscribed - I follow a lot of aviation disaster channels, but there’s always room for one more 😊. I enjoyed your video and look forward to watching more.
RIP
Michael J. Kling
(1956-1999)
Stephanie Bellegarrigue
(1972-1999)
Payne Stewart
(1957-1999)
Robert E. Fraley
(1953-1999)
Van Ardan
(1954-1999)
and
Bruce Borland
(1958-1999)
You would think that the pilot of the lear jet who is a ex air Force pilot would have known to put on the oxygen mask at the first sign of problems instead of pulling out a manual and trying to read it. I saw another source video about this and they believe that's what happened...the pilots were trying to read the manual instead of putting on their oxygen masks..
Complacency kills...
You don’t know what happened in that cockpit. Stop speculating.
Oxygen mask - don, mic switch - oxy. Some procedures need to be tattooed on a pilots forearm.
Apparently they didn't realize the how dangerous their situation was.
@@highcrimes9153 Since you're correct in that no one knows exactly what happened in the cockpit, speculation is all that is available. In fact, the NTSB determination is speculation. Did you go tell them to stop as well? Didn't think so. Stop whining.
I remember this while it was happening, hard to believe it was that long ago. Great reproduction of how everything took place that day from start to finish. I wish they would make more videos like this that explains exactly what happened to other Air disasters.
I happened to be visiting a Hutterite Colony nearby and went out to see the actual impact site. You never forget this stuff - leaves you moved for sure.
I remember hearing this on the radio and I just knew it wasn't going to end well! I live about 80 miles from the site. RIP all who died.
Six interceptors for this small jet, yet zero interceptors on 911. . . and much more time.
Also more wreckage for this small jet and none for several massive jets.
Yup, that's true.
The role of the interceptors was to try and communicate with the crew of the Lear and then shoot the plane down if it appeared to to heading towards a populated area. Fortunately it did not. 911 happened very quickly for scrambling interceptors. But I do believe they were heading towards the UA 93 in Pennsylvania once it became obvious what was happening.
The company I worked for contracted to use this plane. I was going to fly from Orlando to Detroit the week before this incident. The trip was cancelled and we didn’t go. I worked for Breed Technologies out of Lakeland, FL.
wow.
Small world I know the owners son of Breed
The narrator is correct that the percentage of oxygen stays the same but that the atmospheric pressure drops. So the percentage of O2 stays the same but there isn't enough of it to keep of alive. Another way of explaining that you need supplemental oxygen is that as pressure drops your body "out gasses" and eventually above 50,000 feet not even an oxygen mask can supply you with enough oxygen. Above 50,000 feet you need a pressure suit. At higher altitudes you can actually feel all the gasses trying to get out of your body. Belching and so forth. You can have so much pressure coming out of your oxygen mask that the mask actually pushes off of your face. At those pressures the challenge is not breathing in.....it's breathing OUT. The pressure being supplied by your demand regulator will inflate your lungs.....you have to concentrate on breathing out. At least that's the way it was at 41,000 feet in the Air Force altitude chamber.
Basically, there isn’t enough room in your lungs for the amount of oxygen you need. The same principle is why the oxygen masks on Concorde would have been utterly useless if it had depressurised in supersonic flight. 60k feet is precious near the height where blood “boils” (it actually evaporates). You’d need a space suit or be breathing under pressure to survive, which you explained perfectly.
Remember this like yesterday. Media didn’t bring it up for a while after 9/11 because it’s hard to explain how they can scramble fighter jets in minutes for a pro golfer’s small private jet but nothing when terrorists were flying huge commercial jets full of passengers they had high jacked for nearly 45 minutes.
@@r.williamcomm7693 The fighters in the Payne Stewart incident were already airborne and were relieved by other fighters. His flight was in the air for hours until it ran out of fuel.
At least it sounds like the occupants were incapacitated when they crashed. They probably never knew what was coming...
One symptom of hypoxia is a sense of euphoria, so they would have felt, for lack of a better word, "good" before passing out. The time between the high cabin altitude warning and loss of consciousness would have been less than a minute.
@@erich930 In this case I wonder if it all came on slowly as they climbed and as they told us in the Air Force altitude chamber a slow decompression is the worst....because a person would get light headed slowly and therefore might not recognize it in time. In the chamber we were trained to recognize our own personal hypoxia symptoms. At the onset of symptoms the first thing you do is TELL someone....and then go to the cabin altitude gauge and see what's going on.
@@erich930 I have not flown the Lear 35 , but most Cabin Altitude warnings occur at 13,500’. There should have been another major clue that the cabin wasn’t being pressurized. The one bleed air valve was found in the “closed” or off position after the impact. It most likely was never on. And the crew should have known that by the pressure change in their head as the plane climbed. Or by the yellow annunciator light indicating the bleed air valve was closed. The supplemental oxygen valve needed to be turned on from the outside of the airplane during the preflight. It never was. Even if they put their masks on there was no oxygen flowing to them. There’s more to this story that we will never know or be released.
can't believe that's been almost 25 years ago!
The same happend a few month ago over Europe. Soon after reaching the flight level communication was lost, the autopilot flew the aircraft until the fuel was empty after more than 3 hours. All the same, fogged windows, nothing moved inside.
Seems to me there is somthing wrong with this airplanes in maintaining cabin pressure.
Excellent analysis!
Great channel interesting as it comes
Just curious about the valve failure. Most valves are designed to fail to the position of least concern, in this case I would think the valve would fail open which would not allow depressurization, ie having the valve closed with current or pressure by which if there is electrical failure or hydraulic failure the valve will open.
Any thoughts on this?
VERY INTERESTING THANKS FOR REPORT
Great video,well done.thanks
Among the saddest days I can remember. I was a big fan of Payne Stewart!
I was fortunate to see him at the US OPEN at Olympic Club in 1998.
Strange with all of the technology. There isn't a sensor control to prevent this valve from being closed at the wrong time
What valve? The flow control valve? I'm not sure about the Lear Jet but some valves like that are just part of the air conditioning system and won't generate a warning all on their own. Like the narrator said there IS a cabin altitude warning.....so it is extremely frustrating as to why the pilots didn't don their oxygen masks right away. The Captain was former Air Force so had had very good training in the altitude chamber.....he should have been well aware of his own hypoxia symptoms and well aware of what to do in case of a cabin pressure issue. But like they said, they can't know for sure what happened. Maybe the loss of cabin pressure was sudden and made everyone pass out before they could help themselves.
I'm also wondering about autopilot technology that would set up a glide path to descend at best glide to impact, rather than this ending, let alone, with modern upgrades, having an autopilot do a GPS straight-in approach DRT to nearest when there is a complete flame out with no pilot inputs on any controls or switches.
@@swiftadventurer I like the new parachute for safety on small planes. I'd ride in one of those any day 😆
@@swiftadventurer Oh the technology is there now......but lots of older aircraft are still active. The owners aren't about to give them up.
@@aviationinvestigationchannel The Gulfstream V I believe was the first aircraft to have the EDM system in 1997.
This seems a lot more recent than 1999. I thought it was more recent than that I remember it very very well
I was under the understanding that ALL pilots immediately dawn O2 masks if a pressurization problem is encountered. Apparently not when this occurred. The Helios tragedy as mentioned here, was very similar
If you are not getting oxygen, you become hypoxic. You get goofy and don’t understand what is going on, then you pass out. So there is no point where you realize you need a mask.
@@cpy In the Helios case they misinterpreted the alarm. Pilot error. This case both pressurization sources were off/closed/not in auto. Pilot error?
@@patrickmcdonald3427 very possible. The NTSB report was clear that alternative oxygen was working and available to them, but they were probably too hypoxic to understand what was going on
@@patrickmcdonald3427 I saw that reenactment. Maintenance turned the switch off to check the system and did not turn it back on. The aircrew missed it then gradually passed out while trying to troubleshoot the problem. It was another case of not immediately using the facemask. The pilots and attendants need portable oxygen systems with a 20 or 30 minute supply that allows them to move about in case of loss of pressure.
At your convenience, read my comment just above, Thank you.
Another highly interesting video..
The "world's greatest pilot" mug at 10:14 hit a little different
Finally a video talking about oxygen at altitude correctly! Air doesn't get thinner,oxygen amounts stay the same. Watch Everest videos on here they are the worst to say,"there isn't enough oxygen to support life" lol
Regardless of alarms, valves, etc, they did not desend tp 10,000 when they should have.
A little piece of trivia. Payne Stewart previously recorded a song, the lyrics of which in part included the words "playin' down" (I think followed by the words "the fairway")! Perhaps this was visionary and in fact he was singing about the way in which he would die...plane down!
Theres needs to be a revision in the FAR's. This scenario shows to me the radio call was not responded. So there needs to be indicator lights to respond to proper radio frequencys.
Unfortunately when the frequency change was requested, the crew was already passed out or dead. A light would not have done anything. When crossing the Atlantic we would often get “SelCall” requests that were an indicator light and a ding. They were missed occasionally even though we were completely coherent.
I saw an Air Disasters episode on this. The AF pilot knew they were all dead when he saw all the windows fogged over. Ghost plane at that point. No mayday, no attempt to get on oxygen. They never knew it.
Not stated here was that a side window blew out,also that Plane was cruising at 56,000 feet before it ran out of fuel. Look it Up.
Has some new info been uncovered that wasn't provided in the dozen or more other videos and reports about this?
I remember this he passed away before my father did.
At least nobody suffered...
I remember this day and all the Tears that fell as complete Shock went through my body: I loved Mr Stewart and his Knickers that always were playing Golf💯‼️ It saddens me to this day but know he continues to Tee Off in Heaven while the Angels Cheer.😇 God Bless his precious family, deb in Sunny🌤/Warm☔️ SC🎄🏴2022
He was a good guy.
Where is the black box?
This was an excellent explanation of the how hypoxia affects respiratory physiology, it is also worth including that in addition to what was so superbly explained, as altitude continues to increase so too does the available space, the ratio of gases remain unchanged but the distance between the gas molecules becomes greater as they diffuse into increasingly available less atmospherically pressurised space.
The most visually useful analogy is that of a water spray bottle/atomiser, which we'll arbitrarily say contains 10mL of water.
Transferring the liquid into another vessel is as simple as pouring it in, just as a syringe could drawn up any desired volume by placing the tip in the fluid and drawing back the plunger.
If at once the entire 10mL contents have been sprayed, or atomised, forming a cloud comprised of micro-droplets of water, the suspended 'cloud' will now cover a larger area than the size of the original container. There is still the same volume of water or water molecules, they are just much further apart forming a vapour.
Attempting now to fill the vessel, or place the syringe into the cloud of water vapour and draw back the plunger, will at best dampen the vessel or syringe barrel with a minimal volume of droplets due to how widely spaced the droplets of water are vs the former density of the contained water.
Although the syringe's barrel creates a negative pressure as the plunger is withdrawn, it is still ineffective with capturing but a few water droplets.
The same principle applies when trying to breathe at significantly higher altitudes, the same volume and ratio of gases exist, but when a lung full of air is inhaled, just as the syringe is ineffectively able to capture many water droplets so too is there an inadequate volume of gas molecules available to be captured per breath when the altitude is too high with the atmospheric pressure too low and the gas molecules that far apart. Also at such an altitude the significantly decreased atmospheric pressure negatively affects the efficiency of gas exchange.
When the reduced volume of oxygen molecules inhaled per breath reach the air sacs better known as alveoli or the alveolar space, they also lack the force or pressure required to transfer across the membrane that is only one cell thick from the inside of the alveoli to the inside of the capillary, a micro blood vessel.
Should the water droplets begin to coalesce forming larger droplets, the larger droplets then further coalesce forming even larger droplets and so on, it will become easier to capture more water in the vessel or syringe just as decreasing altitude with the atmospheric pressure increasing also coalesces the gas molecules to become more densely packed together, allowing a greater volume of oxygen molecules to be inhaled down into the alveoli per breath.
As atmospheric pressure increases to a life sustaining level, the concentrated volume of oxygen molecules now have the necessary pressure for each molecule to be forced through the alveoli's single cell membrane into the bloodstream, once there each oxygen molecule can attach to the haemoglobin on the next passing red blood cell and be transported to where it is required.
In a gradual depressurisation as experienced by the occupants of the featured LearJet or the occupants of the Helios Airlines B737 in Greece, the physiological response is subtle.
The most noticeable and profound symptoms are the consequence of the oxygen-hungry brain being starved.
There is a feeling of growing sense of fatigue, tiredness or light headedness as the body begins compensating for the reduction in circulating oxygen. This is followed by increasing feelings of euphoria and well being similar to having consumed a few glasses of champagne or other carbonated alcoholic beverage of a similar strength. The increasing sense of wellbeing and growing sleepiness eventually results in a loss of consciousness without the least sense of concern, worry or anxiety.
There in lies the insidious nature of gradual hypoxia, it creeps up without warning or concern, by the time it is becoming life-threatening the affected person doesn’t realise nor do they care.
Conversely in a sudden or explosive depressurisation, the symptoms of breathlessness are immediate, in addition to all of the other physical effects associated with the rapid expansion between gas molecules. Pain is felt in any hollow cavity containing trapped gases such as the ears, sinuses, stomach or at any length of the bowel, also dental pathology such as cavities or loose fillings.
There will also be environmental signs such as extreme cold, a very loud noise coming from the breech in the fuselage's integrity, also the rapid drop in temperature will rapidly condense all the humidity into a dense fog** which dissipates after a short while. Any carbonated drinks will spontaneously fizz dramatically along with hot fluids suddenly beginning to boil violently. Both of which will overflow out of their respective containers. All dust and debris embedded in the carpet and flooring will instantly become airborne being forced towards to breech, as Will any loose papers, and small items.
As soon as the pressure inside equalises with the pressure outside everything will settle down with the exception of the extremely cold air and noise.
** It is because of this temporary 'fog' or condensation that the masks that drop from the service unit above are a yellow/orange colour vs the typical transparent design of a medical oxygen mask. It is easier to see, grab onto, pull down and place over the nose and mouth.
Incidentally, you may have heard of people saying cabin contents are 'sucked' out of the aircraft, they are NOT, just as overflowing sofa is is not sucked out of a shaken bottle.
Cabin contents are blown out of the breech, the larger the breech the heavier and larger the items will become airborne and be blown through the breech with incredible force, always keep your seat belt fastened!
The larger the breech will also dictate how quickly everything equalises and settles down.
Having said that the faster the pressure equalises the greater the pain and discomfort from trapped gases and the onset from the dizzying effects of hypoxia.
The Time of 'Useful Consciousness' (TUC) vs just the 'Time of Consciousness' is for those in aviation to be aware of the narrow time frame available, if an individual is not breathing supplemental oxygen within the altitude-dictated time, they will become overwhelmed and unable to make any sensible or meaningful decisions despite them still being conscious for the short term.
The TUC at the altitudes most pressurised commercial aircraft fly, between 35,000 - 43,000 feet the time is roughly 30 seconds or less depending upon the health and fitness of the individual.
In the case of a passenger affected by poor health or fitness (particularly respiratory disease/infection or cardiac issues) or if they are dehydrated or under the effects of any intoxicant, the TUC is significantly shorter.
Flight Crew have specially designed quick fitting oxygen masks that also contain a microphone for continued unobstructed communication with air traffic control, the oxygen flows under pressure and at a higher concentration (including 100% if necessary) to maintain full mental capacity for the continued safe operation of the aircraft. Under high stress/high workload scenarios the body's demand for oxygen will typically be greater.
Their oxygen supply is provided from their own bank of cylinders located below floor level in close proximity to the flight deck, the exact location varies according to aircraft type.
Without knowledge or respect for TUCs and the effects of hypoxia, a crew member might erroneously elect to first address an important aircraft warning system before fitting their oxygen mask, deeming their mask to be a lower priority when the opposite is true. If they chose to take that sequence of action, they would quickly become incapacitated before they realised or even cared, succumbing swiftly to the effects of hypoxia.
If they’re not assisted and provided with an oxygen mask by another person (who’s already on oxygen), they will lose consciousness after ineffectively dithering only a couple of minutes or less, and within 3-4 minutes more they will die!
Hopefully that information is of interest to any reader, and supports the already great explanation of respiratory pressure differential provided by the producer.
They died of hypoxia, not the crash
At 39,000 ft yes I agree everyone was deceased long before the crash.
Braindead at least but technically probably still alive
Honestly?
I prefer that over....you know...
They would have died with in seconds of de-pressurizing of the cabin
@@eddiestorey9633 ....WE ALL BLOODY KNOW IT !!!!!!!...pg.
So everyone on board was dead long before impact and auto pilot kept it going?
Yes, that is the assumption.
So, hypoxia occurred to all shortly after take off?!
Wow! Good that it didn’t fall into populated area. 🇺🇸🇺🇸GOD BLESS AMERICA🇺🇸🇺🇸
From a distance, I watched the plane go down. Living in S Dak at the time
You are dead wrong on the oxygen percent. I fly a paramotor. On the ground it's around 20.3%. as I got up to 15,000 ft it's about 19%. I measured that with a four gas meter. I don't know where you got that 70,000 ft 21% number from but that's wrong
Should have been mandatory to don oxygen masks immediately,
Jets had to refuel but the Lear jet still has fuel!?
If I have the money, I don't fly Sun Air?
Imagine, as a last resort for the jet to be equipped with a parachute system like the ones used with NASA for the space capsules reentry on the ocean. Wishful thinking of me but, all on board perished a little after takeoff. So sad for Mr Payne and others on that flight. May they RIP.
There is. Search for “CIRRUS SR-22 CAPS”
Pinehurst number 2 ALWAYS remembered!! GOD BLESS payne Stewart and his living family..
Contrails coming off the wing tanks! 5:43 😉
Contrails? This is a computer generated video.
@@raymondherbst7126 yes I know that…
I looked at the thumbnail and thought they'd maybe somehow managed to manoeuvre their plane to hover there a few feet over the ground and that everything was okay. Pretty disappointed tbh.
Can you do singer AALIYAH and The singer portrayed in the biopic “Labamba”
Some pilots will often remove the starboard aft escape window to load baggage. Often golf clubs, as to not damage the interior. A damaged escape window seal would cause lost of cabin pressure. This leak could be slow at lower altitude and worsened at high altitude, fooling the pilots.
Those pilot reported discrepancies should be mandatory. "Several anomalies"? Ground checking the system to see why this was happening, but no real conclusion? Yet they put it in the air after general cleaning? It was heartbreaking when Payne died, as well as all others on board. The possible pilot reports, I think could have changed everything. While piloting the plane, if this incident occurred there would be eyeballs and attention to detail that might have been helpful. Like timing, origins of event, and execution of back up system used to change the event. Signs to look out for etc. Am I wrong about that?
i think the shorter explaination is needed because not all ppl understand about how lung works and its medical terminology.
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basically ppl can survive in aircraft at high altitude thanks to enclosed cabin that makes environment liveable for humans up there. if this cabin got a leak, theres supposed to be a warning blaring, but without evidence we dont know what the pilots doing as explained in video, theres no certain evidence as the crash is so violent it destroyed most important parts to be investigated.
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in short, the aircraft design is probably prone to have pressurization issues which needs to have different regulation for this type of aircraft
Dipped out at 10 seconds due to the robot reader. Is it really that hard to find a human?
Hate those also!
@@aviationinvestigationchannel - Thanks for your reply. That's a very good reason. Most of us just assume that the content creators are just trying to reduce cost by using bot readers. I do appreciate the effort and factual content of the video. Good luck!
@@aviationinvestigationchannel Your voice was fine, very precise and clear. People will find anything to complain about.
@@aviationinvestigationchannel are you Indian?
@@aviationinvestigationchannel aww.. that’s so thoughtful of you to even have it read in English. I don’t mind the reader, as long as it’s not the tiktok lady. Thank you!
Thats so unfortunate that both highly experienced pilots FAILED at their job, causing instant death. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Remember this like yesterday. Media didn’t bring it up for a while after 9/11 because it’s hard to explain how they can scramble fighter jets in minutes for a pro golfer’s small private jet but nothing when terrorists were flying huge commercial jets full of passengers they had high jacked for nearly 45 minutes.
Why didn’t the F-16 pilots drop Rambo into the Learjet to take controls. I don’t get it.
Wait…what
You mean Charlton Heston don't you?
The jet from the Incredibles movie 😂
Sad story but the only positive thing ( if you want to call it that ) is the plane went down in a field
8:31 I though this part said *breathe air* 💀
Bleed air. Air that is "bled" off of the engines.
Why is there so many plane crashes recently this then the b-17 then the 2 small planes then the show planes ga damn
If I cannot breathe in a place without air pressure provided by a jet turbine, valves and controls - I ain't likely going there.
They did not check the oxygen tanks!
The loss of a jet and you're worried about that what about the loss of the lives
So wait......everyone became unconscious at the same time.
must have lost pressure
Tragedy
Never try to troubleshoot a low cabin pressure warning. Put on your oxygen masks immediately and make an emergency descent. You have only 5-10 seconds of useful O2 in your brain, not 30-60
To my Knowledge, those pilots in commercial business jet company need regular and scheduled training.
One of the costs of owning a private plane is paying for training every year for each pilot you employed.
Weak! He played golf and that does not make him a better human being than any other person. Best of luck!
I witnessed that plane flying over my backyard in Omaha, Nebraska. I thought there was something wrong with the plane's flight. I didn't know the plane had crashed until I got to class that night
It was flying at a billion feet?
No way you you'd be able to see a plane that high much less be able to tell it was THAT particular plane
@@WestCoastTruckingCEO : Yeah, well, I did. I live in North Omaha and the plane was flying crooked. The place I was living is between the airport and the SAC (stragetic air command ) base. I used to see planes flying all the time.
Didn't realize we sent fighter jets after silent planes before 9/11, especially as fast as they did. Odd....
If you want to know what hypoxia feels like travel to Colorado, climb a 14er. Hang out for a while. That's just 14000 ft.
Funny how when some planes hit the ground, they actually leave debris.
And then some have A LOT more mass, momentum, and fuel at the point of impact... learn about physics rather than conspiracy theory
An inconvenient fact for 9/11 believers.
He left one final divet
I used to fly a 25E. Thought it was required one pilot have a mask (quick don) at all times above 40K ft.
It always makes me wonder when a gambling opportunity arises. Did he refuse to make another deal?
I hope the passengers didnt put on their pressure masks and they passed out before the plane crashed.
I knew the owners of Sunjet. This ended the business.
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its just too freekin bad the plane itself doesn't notice the lack of pressurization and hit the 8000ft mark automatically maybe there is a chance someone can regain consciousness, seems tome oxygen masks should automatically deploy in this situation via sensors vs altitude, lets see cabin pressurization is insufficient at this altitude, mask up, and they wonder why i don't like to fly..
You should have added 6 more seconds to make this video even more 13:37 😃
PS. I've seen videos on this incident at least 3 or 4 other times, and nobody explains the physiology of how our respiratory system works.
I would have never known oxygen concentration remains at roughly 21% up to 70,000ft
Interesting.
Also, you definitely got a new fan. Keep it up and do whatever you can to expose your channel, because your videos are excellent and you easily deserve 1,000,000 subscribers.
Talk about a broken record man how many times you guys going to keep reporting this story over and over and over and you have it listed as just recently way off
I heard about this accident just weeks after hearing that Payne had given his life to Christ. So while his life on earth is over; his life in heaven has only just begun. The bible tells we do not mourn as him who has no hope. He just has a new address.
It would have been a good idea for the writer of the script to have someone who is fluent in English edit it. Many, many examples of clear misunderstandings of common words and general usage. For example, there is never reason to specify Daylight time with the time zone because that has nothing to do with anything.
The thumbnail is totally without taste...
Oh you mean there was pieces of the plane you could examine after the accident but the plane during 911 nothing left, everything evaporated....!!!!?????
hows that flat earth theory workin' out for ya?
You should spend time learning about physics rather than conspiracy theory...
There were pieces recovered. I saw them. Don’t know where you got that.
@@golferpro1241 just people who know nothing of chemistry and physics listening to CZcams click bait artists
I like the clear voice. But you have little amount of videos. I was watching www.youtube.com/@theflightchannel/videos this channel but what is annoing about it that there is no voice, need to read all the text and I cannot do other things while watching. Besides that that channel is good. So you could simple take videos from that channel and just read the text of them and this would be much more beneficial and not that much work.
It' s Bellegarrigue pronounced properly as "Belle-garri-goo".
Belle-as in nice or good, garri, and gue like rue. Remember rue morgue avenue? Rue(meaning road)
At least get your French right if you are to say it. Or wreck it like the US did with English pronunciation.
These people were dead already