What No One Is Saying About This YouTube Pilot's Death!

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  • čas přidán 14. 01. 2024
  • Jenny Blalock was known as TNFlygirl on CZcams where she documented her aviation journey. This is the tragic story of her death and what no one has said about it.
    The only way this video is going to help save lives is if you're willing to do something about it. My goal is to share the story. You have the power to use that to save lives! It might be difficult to be critical of ourselves, and it's even more difficult to be critical of others. However, that's exactly what you need to do when you do a debrief if you want to save lives.
    The main purpose of sharing some of her videos is to highlight the mistakes that others can avoid and also to show that the mistakes she was making were ones that someone with a private pilot certificate shouldn't be making.
    This video could have easily been over an hour long but my goal was to deliver as much information as possible in a concise format.
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  • @pilot-debrief
    @pilot-debrief  Před 4 měsíci +1040

    My goal is to share compelling aviation stories. You are the ones that have the power to use that information to save lives!
    Here's another pilot debrief if you want to learn more: czcams.com/video/hmmAWt1S650/video.html

    • @matthew-jy5jp
      @matthew-jy5jp Před 4 měsíci +53

      Just wanted you to know that this is one of my favorite channels. And it is completely you that gives it its authenticity and it's credibility. I'm not a pilot I have no experience with their plans never actually been on an airplane. But you can definitely tell you know what you're talking about. And I've seen and watched every single one of your videos. And was very happy to learn more about your experience in the last one. Have a good New Year

    • @bodystomp5302
      @bodystomp5302 Před 4 měsíci +18

      You’re producing great content, Hoover. Much appreciated.

    • @Av-vd3wk
      @Av-vd3wk Před 4 měsíci +21

      I think what happened was simple to explain. As is known, she had issues working/understanding her AP. She fought it wanting to climb (as seen in her other videos) by using heavy/full nose down trim. This time, similar scenario, but she disconnected the AP (maybe accidentally even turned it off again and still didn’t know how to turn it on) and the plane instantly went full nose down and spiral. She probably panicked and was fiddling with the AP and or simply pulling up but forgot to level her trim. She fought the plane all the way down. And it’s likely control surfaces broke apart at that violent rate of descent as well…

    • @theplanechannelN863GT
      @theplanechannelN863GT Před 4 měsíci +6

      Thankyou so much Hoover!

    • @buckeyedarren
      @buckeyedarren Před 4 měsíci +2

      🤣🤣🤣@@tracksuitJohn

  • @alexj3709
    @alexj3709 Před 3 měsíci +4392

    Here is the take away from this crash: This young pilot knew she was incompetent but just laughed it off showing that she never took the gravity of that attitude. She crashed a fully serviceable plane in perfect weather entirely due to her incompetence. Her focus was on becoming a celebrity youtuber, not becoming a better pilot. The FAA needs to be aware of these rising wannabe celebrity pilots in a social media dominated world.

    • @mickeysmiths
      @mickeysmiths Před 3 měsíci +193

      Yes, social media no doubt had some influence on the outcome of this woman's life. I commented similarly elsewhere. The FAA might start having a closer look at youtube & those that post 'pilot flying' videos..

    • @listey
      @listey Před 3 měsíci +191

      She wasn't young

    • @patrickpatton7123
      @patrickpatton7123 Před 3 měsíci +59

      Yeh someone did this already, she had no business in a complex aircraft.
      Another dude did a A+ job on auto pilot explanation.

    • @nickolaymiltenov
      @nickolaymiltenov Před 3 měsíci +167

      I don't know what is this narcissism and desire to expose all your life for public viewing. Well if you earn enough money from this at least chose something less dangerous than flying. Sorry for these two ridiculously lost lives.

    • @donaldjz
      @donaldjz Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@nickolaymiltenovOnly Fans for simps

  • @andrewfrechette9902
    @andrewfrechette9902 Před 3 měsíci +643

    I'm a 747 Captain with over 15,000 hours of service. Some of the most valuable conversations I have had during my career have been very uncomfortable ones in which people who were looking out for me pointed out deficiencies which needed correcting. Those people are our real friends, and my continued success is part of THEIR legacy.

    • @mikearakelian6368
      @mikearakelian6368 Před 2 měsíci +21

      I had a high time 135 pilot ask me how to use the flight director in a caravan 1 hr before her flight...I advised her to cancel....get more training.she left anyway n flew into a line of cells...crashed! And radar didn't seem to make a difference! Always pissed me off...company didn't give a shit

    • @aliceenland9360
      @aliceenland9360 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@mikearakelian6368 what is a a high time 135 pilot?

    • @thomasvet488
      @thomasvet488 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Why that made you uncomfortable? It is our job to keep correcting each other in a respectful and constructive manner.

    • @andrewfrechette9902
      @andrewfrechette9902 Před 2 měsíci +13

      @@aliceenland9360 You are absolutely right. When I think I'm OK and someone challenges that paradigm, it makes me uncomfortable. That's normal. My real friends are more concerned for my welfare than my comfort zone. I live those guys.

    • @andrewfrechette9902
      @andrewfrechette9902 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@thomasvet488 that reply was for you. I don't know why it tagged the wrong person

  • @user-tz7oy4ou6u
    @user-tz7oy4ou6u Před 2 měsíci +304

    I was told on passing my check ride, "this is a license to learn". I always remembered and took it seriously.

    • @Alfra1324
      @Alfra1324 Před měsícem +15

      I agree with you! When I got my commercial pilots license my instructor told me: You just got a ticket to learn! Will never forget those words! He was right! 😊

    • @stanfluellen2689
      @stanfluellen2689 Před 15 dny +9

      I teach at a university, and I sometimes tell my students: College is not where you learn. It's where you learn how to learn.

    • @andyuk5
      @andyuk5 Před 14 dny +2

      SAME, I have had a PPL-H for 19 years and still learning!

    • @frits191
      @frits191 Před 10 dny

      A truely "smart" person would agree with this 100%, the biggest minds in science have always said, the more you learn the more you realize that you are not 100% an expert and never will be. Only "less intelligent" ppl (which makes sense no one person is born equal) usually will claim they know everything or take command due to that attitude, the attitude you have sir/madam, is therefore very admirable. Complacency/distractions were a big factor here I think, and overconfidence, no malice just sad

    • @aztecwarrior1421
      @aztecwarrior1421 Před dnem

      Very seriously, me too!!

  • @fibblit2394
    @fibblit2394 Před měsícem +187

    The fact that all her videos were immediately removed by her family is very telling.

    • @bluedeval03
      @bluedeval03 Před 16 dny +26

      Yep, didn’t want insurance seeing them and deny payout

    • @TheFlyingZulu
      @TheFlyingZulu Před 14 dny +19

      They probably didn't want to see all of the well deserved and negative comments people were putting on them, reminding them of her death.

    • @EverythingsEventuall
      @EverythingsEventuall Před 11 dny +2

      ​@bluedeval03 the videos are still out there, definitely not the reason

    • @chrisemerson7743
      @chrisemerson7743 Před 2 dny

      I don't think it was her family, I think it was the FAA or NTSB!

  • @patrickmoody2325
    @patrickmoody2325 Před 3 měsíci +1365

    40 years later and these wise words from my FI are still in my head. "Anyone can learn to fly a plane, not everyone can learn to become a pilot."

    • @codacreator6162
      @codacreator6162 Před 3 měsíci +24

      Ditto cars.

    • @MoivinSulunker
      @MoivinSulunker Před 3 měsíci +14

      pilot (n.) from Italian piloto, supposed to be an alteration of Old Italian pedoto, which usually is said to be from Medieval Greek *pedotes "rudder, helmsman," from Greek pedon "steering oar," related to pous (genitive podos) "foot,"
      Pilot -- one who steers. Not everyone can be someone who steers.

    • @TexasDivorceAdvice
      @TexasDivorceAdvice Před 3 měsíci +11

      I still hear him saying during landing approach..."Keep your hands on the goddamn throttle!!!

    • @wcads623
      @wcads623 Před 3 měsíci +3

      How true that. 😣😣

    • @TheNewyorker66
      @TheNewyorker66 Před 3 měsíci +2

      bravo 4 words if wisdom. ❤

  • @belliott538
    @belliott538 Před 4 měsíci +1504

    To be Brutally honest… I’m surprised she lasted so long.

    • @flywheel8541
      @flywheel8541 Před 4 měsíci +97

      I'm surprised she never collided with another aircraft

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 Před 4 měsíci +77

      @@flywheel8541 Hitting another aircraft in 3D space is much harder than hitting another car in the 2D space of the road.

    • @bheinlen
      @bheinlen Před 4 měsíci +9

      Me too.

    • @usa4ever711
      @usa4ever711 Před 4 měsíci

      When all is said and done, those small planes are usually the cause of death for MANY people that die on airplanes! They are usually where celebrities and lots of people die as they are weaker and less stable than the bigger planes!

    • @jamescampbell4334
      @jamescampbell4334 Před 4 měsíci +105

      Im surprised she wasn't already flying for United before the incident.🤔

  • @jayashrishobna
    @jayashrishobna Před měsícem +434

    Thank you for this video. I want to share my personal story. Soon after passing my medical school exams and beginning work as a doctor, I realised something was really, really wrong. I had been a great student all my life. I'm conscientious and diligent. I poured myself into my work and cared a great deal for my patients. But I noticed I kept making errors or near-errors in my work. None of them led to actual harm but I came pretty close. After a few months of this, I decided to take a break from clinical work to reset, thinking it was just exhaustion. I returned a few months later, but nothing improved.
    So I made the INCREDIBLY difficult decision to give up my clinical practice and medical license (pretty much permanently). I instead shifted to work in supporting roles behind the scenes. (I eventually received a diagnosis which explained why I was messing up, which I will not disclose here.) Even though my mistakes had the potential to screw things up horribly for my vulnerable patients who were depending on me, I actually received a lot of pushback from family, friends and colleagues for my decision to leave. I was called lazy, risk-averse, conservative. I was told to "just try harder" or "you'll get better at it" etc. I was even called selfish for "throwing my opportunity away". I know there are many times we should not give up in life, but I am surprised that people were so harsh even if my decision was made to avoid harming my patients, and therefore myself.
    Looking back, I do still feel the pang of regret and loss of the dream & career I toiled so many years for. But I also know it was 100% the right decision, and I am enjoying building my career in a new direction. I firmly believe we should listen to our gut when it tells us to take a step back from a potentially unsafe situation. Be humble. And be safe always. Thanks for reading!

    • @cindysavage265
      @cindysavage265 Před měsícem +45

      As a colleague, I thank you for realizing your limitations and choosing another direction. I takes a great deal of courage. One avenue you may consider is a career in medical ethics

    • @jayashrishobna
      @jayashrishobna Před měsícem +25

      ​@cindysavage265 thank you so much, Cindy. My work is now in quality and safety which suits me very well. I never considered medical ethics! That's such a great idea, as I have always been interested in it. Let me explore it further, maybe it's something I could still get involved in in some way.

    • @Pootie_Tang
      @Pootie_Tang Před měsícem +16

      If I learned anything in life, is that:
      1) people, especially family and close ones often will try to make you pick a decision that will affect the course of your OWN life big time
      2) one should never listen to other's opinion in such cases.
      Talking about your family etc.
      I'm happy for you not being weak and deciding for yourself how to live your life, only you know how to live it the best possible way. And also you did a right thing for potential patients, good for you!

    • @jayashrishobna
      @jayashrishobna Před měsícem +7

      ​@@Pootie_TangThank you for your encouragement! Yes, making our own decisions makes the consequences bearable, even purposeful.

    • @Pootie_Tang
      @Pootie_Tang Před měsícem +2

      @@jayashrishobna well said!

  • @jezdfax
    @jezdfax Před měsícem +34

    I was in a police aviation unit as a TFO and my turn came around to train to be a helicopter pilot. I passed my written and began my training with an excellent flight instructor and army veteran pilot. I always seemed to be a little behind the learning curve and my confidence level was so so. I learned to fly the helicopter and even completed my first solo flight. But, I knew my limitations and I felt my abilities to fly the helicopter were sub par so instead of fooling myself and continuing on, I decided to bow out of training. Not everyone is cut out to be a pilot.

    • @jezdfax
      @jezdfax Před 5 dny +1

      I cringed when I watched this video as she just shrugged it off not know her instruments or at least following a heading to where she was going.
      She had no business flying an aircraft period and the flight instructor who checked her off, I'm sure is worried about what happened.
      Piloting an aircraft was way over her head. She just could not see it.

    • @trawlins396
      @trawlins396 Před dnem

      So true. Same with being a nurse, teacher, doctor. Not everyone can have those careers.

  • @FloridaCracker-et5mw
    @FloridaCracker-et5mw Před 3 měsíci +1022

    I am a retired boat captain who had to navigate channels in pitch-black conditions with heavy winds, current, fog, rain, and sleet using just the radar. At times, I couldn't see other ships I was passing in narrow channels. When I first got my mates license I was having trouble tuning the the radar so the captain came over and said I suggest you read the entire radar manual and he added a comment I never forgot throughout my career and that was "You gotta be smarter than the equipment you are operating." It's too bad no one took her aside and said,"Hey, you are in over your head."

    • @DanTheManIOM
      @DanTheManIOM Před 3 měsíci +34

      I told my kids when they were little, you have to be smarter than the box to open it! I can't imagine navigating at night in heavy winds, current, fog and rain. The interstate is enough of a challenge for me. No, they don't call me Ishmael !

    • @asbestosfiber
      @asbestosfiber Před 3 měsíci +34

      She was over her head at that time. If someone had said what your captain had said to you, she might have realized she needed more study.

    • @johnswanson3741
      @johnswanson3741 Před 3 měsíci

      She identified as a man. lol

    • @ninjaswordtothehead
      @ninjaswordtothehead Před 3 měsíci +24

      I was told it was the "10% Rule". You have to be at least 10% smarter than the equipment to use it properly.

    • @ronniepaulinc
      @ronniepaulinc Před 3 měsíci +17

      I was on a 50m in conditions that shook my bones, visibility was zero, and we were all in the wheel house with the captain that was so collected it appeared that 100% of his effort was focused on keeping his coffee from spilling. Not a concern in the world while the rest of the crew acted like it was just another day at the dock. I now have 2 rules about boating, if your crew aint that salty dont invite me and I will never go back to St. George, the Bering Sea aint for me!

  • @HermitGeek
    @HermitGeek Před 4 měsíci +659

    I just cannot get over the fact she had a huge compass right in the middle of the dash, and still had no idea where she was going...

    • @green31OSU
      @green31OSU Před 3 měsíci +76

      That's the part that boggled my mind with that video as well. She knew she basically had to go dead East after takeoff, she literally commed that waiting for clearance. OK, so maybe you get a bit confused after you're in the air because you accidentally went left instead of right, the sun was in your eyes, autopilot did something you didn't expect, whatever. You're still quite close to your starting point...turn until you're dead East on the compass and you'll practically be perfectly on course still.

    • @5CGQ
      @5CGQ Před 3 měsíci +28

      The instrument will help you only if you look at it.
      My flying experience is limited to MSFS, plus half an hour in a Cherokee in a "come-and-try" experience. I reckon 80% of my attention was on the compass and altimeter.
      Thanks to an excellent instructor I was able to enjoy the experience without making any mistakes.

    • @earlycuyler4019
      @earlycuyler4019 Před 3 měsíci +74

      Female pilot.

    • @laumay7364
      @laumay7364 Před 3 měsíci

      @@earlycuyler4019what does that mean? Females don’t understand how a compass works or just female pilots?

    • @randomgrinn
      @randomgrinn Před 3 měsíci +52

      A compass? What's that for? Old tech, can't be worth anything. If I could just figure out how to turn on my modern tech I'd be fine.

  • @MoiAussie1
    @MoiAussie1 Před 3 měsíci +153

    Her poor Father. He trusted her with his life and his silence says it all. Damn shame.

    • @JagdgeschwaderX
      @JagdgeschwaderX Před 12 dny +1

      @@foppo101 Haven't you seen those videos of 'dads' teaching their daughters to shoot and do all sorts of man stuff? I'm not saying women can't do these things but generally most of them can't. I think her dad is responsible and paid for this, after all he's in the plane when they died. I think it's possible there is some kind of issue with these guys who don't have a son to follow in their footsteps and then encourage their daughters to do man stuff and it ends in tragedy.

    • @MT-rg4zb
      @MT-rg4zb Před 11 dny +9

      Exactly, his silence is what I noticed. If it were my kid that trip he showed where she got lost would’ve ended as soon as I knew she had no idea where she was going. I would have been completely scared and flabbergasted at her lack of urgency or care with anything. I would’ve said “go back and land this plane, I’m getting off”. And I would’ve told her to stop flying. I don’t get why he doesn’t say anything.

    • @barbarapeterson4000
      @barbarapeterson4000 Před 8 dny

      @@JagdgeschwaderX You are aware that plenty of dollars love to shoot? That there are competitions for sport shooting around the world? That some women love to hunt? Are you saying being a pilot is "man stuff"? Tell that to the WASP. Tell that to all the women pilots who just finished the Air Race Classic, 60th year. Plenty of young, arrogant male pilots crash as well. This woman was foolish and wanted nothing to be a CZcams influencer. That's a Gen Me Too, not a woman thing.

    • @s16n
      @s16n Před 2 dny

      ⁠@@MT-rg4zbthis is exactly what is was thinking.

  • @user-lv2ot4pq7x
    @user-lv2ot4pq7x Před 2 měsíci +24

    "Look good first...win second" is sadly way too common these days. Social media is a plaque.

    • @BinanceStuff
      @BinanceStuff Před 3 dny +1

      plague - but plaque isn't nice either 🙂

  • @ognir66
    @ognir66 Před 4 měsíci +2916

    I received my pilots license in 1993.
    After I passed my check-ride I simply realized I wasn't good enough to continue flying.
    I never flew again.
    I think I made the right decision.
    No regrets.

    • @conny.rapp.tattoo
      @conny.rapp.tattoo Před 4 měsíci +103

      Oh no that is sad... my plan is to take an experienced co pilot with me for at least the first 100hrs and at least another 100hrs on any new planes that I get to know

    • @kenpickett9317
      @kenpickett9317 Před 4 měsíci +141

      I did the same! Passed the check ride for my ppl with ease…….and then never flew again.

    • @SnaxMuppet
      @SnaxMuppet Před 4 měsíci +272

      It takes a lot of guts to admit that you aren't up to doing something and I truly applaud you for taking that decision. I the guy that did my instructor training said something to me that has stuck with me all my life... just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. And in the context of flying he was making the point that not everyone has all the skills necessary to be a pilot. I have only once had to sit down with someone and ask if they really want to continue with lessons. It was awful for both of us but I felt it was the right thing to do.

    • @MonkPetite
      @MonkPetite Před 4 měsíci +152

      Nice self reflection. I’m raised with aircraft. Basically flown them all. (Better explained as a lot) but turning 55 I was fed up with it. Getting older a noticed I was not up te speed anymore. I was flying on routine skills. So I quit.

    • @ABrit-bt6ce
      @ABrit-bt6ce Před 4 měsíci +59

      I did the Air Cadet flying deal so tried aerobatics and the like. Decided to stick to cars.

  • @jeannineterese1037
    @jeannineterese1037 Před 3 měsíci +864

    She was a perfect example of just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.

    • @scottsimpkins7894
      @scottsimpkins7894 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Agreed. Just to throw in an alternate perspective...know when YOU should know more, be more deliberate and pay closer attention. I love the idea pushing the envelope but she pushed too hard too fast.

    • @Yakomoe
      @Yakomoe Před 3 měsíci +9

      Anything you can do I can do better I can do anything better than you..... so sad

    • @freespeech469
      @freespeech469 Před 3 měsíci +36

      Daddy gave her the money but not the smarts to tell her to stop. Unfortunate

    • @GrantMcMullen-yj6oq
      @GrantMcMullen-yj6oq Před 3 měsíci +31

      Clearly she couldn't fly nor should she have.

    • @thelastword3270
      @thelastword3270 Před 3 měsíci +25

      @@freespeech469 It's very common for fathers to want the best for their "little girl", and throughout the child's life, "no" is a word they never hear. They're told they're "special", and whatever they want, they get. It comes as a shock when they later discover that real life's not like that.
      I see a parallel here with some doctors who decide to become pilots. They've already accomplished a lot in life, and acquired complex skills in their profession, some of them just think, how difficult can it be to just fly an airplane? And some of them end up at the bottom of a smoking hole, which is why Beechcraft Bonanzas got the nickname "Forked-tail Doctor-Killers". They just didn't take flying all that seriously, with fatal consequences.

  • @tomrohan8480
    @tomrohan8480 Před 2 měsíci +136

    I am from 🇮🇳 India n i am a combat aviator (helicopters).. love your debriefs..
    My instructors in flight school always forced us to prepare maps, draw the route, identify time n track CPs enroute even though the aircraft had GPS & auto pilot..
    He used to emphasize time for pre flight preparation
    I still follow that..n in these debriefs its jus the casual attitude n lack of preparation that kills you 90% time..
    Happy landings sir

    • @robk4099
      @robk4099 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Awesome advice to learning aviators. Jai hind

    • @AbdullahiHassan00
      @AbdullahiHassan00 Před měsícem +4

      Got my ppl in kenya and even after almost 150 hours i still make my map and time points even though the planes i fly have both GPS and autopilot.

    • @tomrohan8480
      @tomrohan8480 Před 24 dny +1

      @@robk4099 jaihind bruv

    • @brokenbird2136
      @brokenbird2136 Před 22 dny +1

      ​@@tomrohan8480what does jaihind mean? I am just curious

    • @tomrohan8480
      @tomrohan8480 Před 22 dny +5

      @brokenbird2136 Sir it's a mark of respect for our Nation 🇮🇳 India.. it means " Victory (Jai) to India (Hind for Hindustan) or Long Live 🇮🇳 India

  • @tombeals8980
    @tombeals8980 Před měsícem +15

    I'm a skydiver with no interest in becoming a pilot. BUT these Debriefs have helped me think long and hard about my skill level, currency, desires, and attitude. Thank you for making me think and rethink.

  • @brodie4212
    @brodie4212 Před 4 měsíci +968

    Engages the A/P and then says "let's see where it takes us" Unbelievable.

    • @kelvyquayo
      @kelvyquayo Před 4 měsíci +85

      It’s like she thought Auto-Pilot is AI Controlled..

    • @retro440
      @retro440 Před 4 měsíci +25

      I'm hoping she was just being a smart-ass, but, maybe, not.

    • @ChavngRynsPvts
      @ChavngRynsPvts Před 4 měsíci +42

      Wait? You don't have the newest Garmin AP with telepathic power to know what altitude and heading you want to fly?!

    • @prhanson
      @prhanson Před 4 měsíci +47

      @@retro440 she probably already had experience with it taking her places other than where she wanted to go, since she had no idea how to program it.

    • @Entroper
      @Entroper Před 4 měsíci +63

      Seriously, when you engage AP, you should know exactly what it's going to do, and if it does anything else, you immediately disable it. YOU are the PIC, not the autopilot. Fly the plane, don't let it fly you.

  • @entelin
    @entelin Před 4 měsíci +405

    What is really shocking about this incident is that weather was not a factor. Light winds, daytime, clear vis... it's really obvious she lacked solid foundational skills and that she was flying a far too complex aircraft for her skill level.

    • @bobwilson758
      @bobwilson758 Před 4 měsíci +38

      Simple actually - Not Qualified .

    • @mvd4436
      @mvd4436 Před 4 měsíci +35

      ​@@bobwilson758Who passed her ? Someone should have their instructor lic revoked

    • @SkelNeldory
      @SkelNeldory Před 4 měsíci +31

      She got a degree in human resources, so you know why it happened.

    • @micheleh5269
      @micheleh5269 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Would she not have gotten lost if she was in the Piper?

    • @entelin
      @entelin Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@mvd4436 It's hard for me to immediately jump on that bandwagon. It's hard to say unless you were there and saw what the instructor saw. You would think you would notice severe deficiencies, or that you would be able to dig into the student while flying to see if you could bring them out. That's not always the case though... Perhaps when under scrutiny she performed passably. It wasn't just her instructor, it was the ffa examiner, then an instructor again for complex signoff, and another faa examiner. They all passed her. There's no way they would have if she couldn't hold a stable flight attitude at the time of examination. I'm not saying they didn't mess up, I'm just not going to assume they did, because I know it's possible to present differently at the time of the test.

  • @fortknox4804
    @fortknox4804 Před měsícem +19

    My Dad has flown for over 50 years and my brother flies a fighter. When I was younger I considered pursuing a license. However, I know my limitations. I don't have the attention to detail that they do. So I decided to keep my feet on the ground. But I salute those that do it and love it.
    By the way, this was a nicely done video and very respectful while providing the necessary blunt honesty.
    My soul aches for those two in their last moments.

  • @lsimon343
    @lsimon343 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I’m not a pilot but I’ve been fascinated by plane crashes and aviation history my whole life. I just discovered you and I love the way you explain these technical details which I actually understand! U are just amazing! Steve o of the skies

  • @CS-uc2oh
    @CS-uc2oh Před 4 měsíci +406

    Her buying a new fancy plane right after getting her license speaks volumes about where her heart and mind was when it comes to flying. It didn't seem like she wanted to learn the craft. She wanted to be able to tell people she was a pilot. That is as deep as that went for her.

    • @moosecat
      @moosecat Před 4 měsíci +39

      The fact that things aren't going well, and she's busy playing with her hair (is it for the camera, or just a nervous reaction?) spoke volumes. Her follow-up about dying when she couldn't figure out how to turn the stupid autopilot on had ME dying...of second-hard embarrassment, NOT laughter.

    • @CS-uc2oh
      @CS-uc2oh Před 4 měsíci +25

      @@moosecat yeah and someone else pointed out the strangeness of how calm she was and how she made no effort to problem solve or ask for help from anyone else... it really made me think that she just didn't "get" what piloting a plane really means. It's not like learning how to ride a jet ski... It's serious business on so many levels.... She acts like she was on one of those spinning rides at Disney world and couldn't figure out how to get it to twirl.

    • @user-kb1hw2yq2f
      @user-kb1hw2yq2f Před 4 měsíci +49

      Social media is a drug. She wanted to be a social media star.

    • @thooke222
      @thooke222 Před 4 měsíci +13

      (I'm not a pilot). A 58 year old plane can still be considered "fancy"?

    • @stevevu5955
      @stevevu5955 Před 4 měsíci +24

      @@CS-uc2oh Makes you think of the the Dunning-Kruger effect and how the most ignorant people act the most confident because they don't know enough to know how little they know. One could almost imagine that her being a successful independent businesswoman gave her a sense of entitlement and the idea that she could "conquer anything" on her own pure ability and that there was no possible way she could be as far behind as she actually was.

  • @oscarmedina1303
    @oscarmedina1303 Před 3 měsíci +351

    Former flight instructor here. Confidence level goes up much faster than actual skill set.

    • @Pf-js5vt
      @Pf-js5vt Před 3 měsíci +17

      Dunning Kruger effect

    • @bobcaygeon6799
      @bobcaygeon6799 Před 3 měsíci +7

      And nothing comes down faster when that skill set fails 😞

    • @savm-7252i
      @savm-7252i Před 3 měsíci +10

      Factor in the influencer multiplier

    • @MrRugbylane
      @MrRugbylane Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@Pf-js5vt Yup you beat me to it. I warned my son about the dunning kruger effect after he passed his driving test. About 18 months later he had a "prang" and broke a few bits on his car..... he called me to say "Dad, just to let you know ive arrived in the 'pit of despair"....

    • @ashred9665
      @ashred9665 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Dunning Kruger effect

  • @manmatemonkey5076
    @manmatemonkey5076 Před 2 měsíci +5

    great channel , flying is a very serious business and you obviously brought that message home, sorry to the family for their loss and condolences to anyone who knew them rip x

  • @kevinheard8364
    @kevinheard8364 Před měsícem +1

    A wonderful video ... both in terms of technical knowledge & insight shared from your experienced perspective; as well as sense of shared humanity in the story-telling. Thank you so much & I am very pleased that you're back. Much respect to you.

  • @JohnnyVeritas
    @JohnnyVeritas Před 4 měsíci +308

    "A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise man learns from others' mistakes"

    • @votpavel
      @votpavel Před 4 měsíci +10

      even wiser man knows he aint born to fly so he stays on the ground

    • @othername1000
      @othername1000 Před 4 měsíci

      You assumed (insert incorrect plural word here) gender!! WTF dude? /s

    • @nateoliver3285
      @nateoliver3285 Před 4 měsíci

      Key word is “man.” She was a woman

    • @mrbill6765
      @mrbill6765 Před 4 měsíci +8

      (Sad) Corollary: Learn from other people's mistakes. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself.

    • @davidf6326
      @davidf6326 Před 4 měsíci +3

      'but this was a woman' - and your point is? @@LazloNQ

  • @vinpowe4181
    @vinpowe4181 Před 3 měsíci +605

    Army vet (2000-2010) and one of the best pieces of advice I heard was, "You better be 10% smarter than equipment that can kill you".

    • @ryszardfrysztak4223
      @ryszardfrysztak4223 Před 3 měsíci +9

      I would say 100% NOT 10%

    • @johnkemas7344
      @johnkemas7344 Před 3 měsíci +15

      I'd actually say you should be at least 30-50% smarter. My 2 flight instructors both always told me when learning to fly VFR and IFR first you must learn how those instruments work, how to use them, then learn to trust them. Other great advice was to know your airplane thoroughly, learned its' quirks and how they can kill you, and how to deal with them and don't do stupid things - IE be more focused on your CZcams production than your plane. God rest your souls.

    • @WingedTRex333
      @WingedTRex333 Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@ryszardfrysztak4223
      Essentially, sometimes even the best crash simple planes.

    • @Meleeman011
      @Meleeman011 Před 3 měsíci +3

      i think i'm 1% smarter

    • @RUS38
      @RUS38 Před 3 měsíci

      And that’s exactly why AI is gonna kill human civilisation.

  • @robertarmstrong3841
    @robertarmstrong3841 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Thanks! Really appreciate your detailed information. I am a private pilot in training and find your analysis of mistakes made is very helpful.
    Also F15 Strike Eagle has been my favorite plane since I took and interest in aviation and computer simulators/game dating back to the original IBM PC 🙂Appreciate the work that goes into your videos.

    • @pilot-debrief
      @pilot-debrief  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thank you so much! I’m glad the videos help. I’m sure you’ll do great - keep me posted when you get your PPL. Cheers!

  • @diluted8
    @diluted8 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I love this channel. Thank you for being so wise and kind.

  • @ExSkyCyclePilot
    @ExSkyCyclePilot Před 4 měsíci +1428

    From someone who has watched most of the pertinent videos on her channel before they were removed, I'm baffled as to how she ever got her PPL. She didn't have even a basic understanding of how to fly. Frankly, she was utterly incompetent. In one video, she showed herself driving to an airport. In that video, she ran multiple stop signs, and was just as flippant about safe driving as she was about flying. What's sad is that not one person she encountered during her training and flying had the guts to step up and tell her that she had no business at the controls of an airplane, and never would have. And Hoover is correct. The NTSB found that her trim was set five degrees nose down at the time of the crash. That's halfway to the maximum of ten degrees.

    • @dicksonfranssen
      @dicksonfranssen Před 4 měsíci +324

      Someone will read that and think it's cruel and disrespectful, not me. If my pilot offered me a ride to the airport and drove like that no way am I getting into that plane. This is why I cringe at the thought of flying cars, something I've been reading for 40+ years. It's just not going to happen.

    • @sixter4157
      @sixter4157 Před 4 měsíci +69

      ​@@dicksonfranssenI am with you about flying cars. No worries though, they will be run by AI. 😂

    • @dicksonfranssen
      @dicksonfranssen Před 4 měsíci +178

      @@sixter4157 AI, automated incompetence.

    • @steveludwig4200
      @steveludwig4200 Před 4 měsíci +110

      She would not have even qualified to be a stinkin UBER driver with those very OBVIOUS lack of Navigational skills.....What a shame for her Mom and Dad. RIP all...

    • @sixter4157
      @sixter4157 Před 4 měsíci +37

      @@dicksonfranssen I am stealing that.

  • @peterweinberg4504
    @peterweinberg4504 Před 4 měsíci +248

    Her mental attitude seems strange. She is behind the aeroplane, and she realises it (she knows she cannot work the autopilot, is "unsure of her position," etc), AND... she is not bothered. Her voice is sooo relaxed. She is not trying to solve her problems, or get anyone else to solve them, in any way. Yet surely she knew you can die in an aeroplane. It is an astonishing level of detachment.

    • @dsmhiggins67
      @dsmhiggins67 Před 4 měsíci +38

      She seemed overwhelmed most of the time; some people exhibit this detached state when over the limit. I find these people very scary indeed..

    • @steveludwig4200
      @steveludwig4200 Před 4 měsíci +36

      I'm guessing Xanax.

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Před 4 měsíci +17

      There are more videos of her really struggling to use autopilot using buttons wrongly etc, clearly she had no idea how it worked. And these videos were on her channel for months why nobody bothered to warn her or perhaps she refused to listen is really mind boggling..

    • @johnroscoe2406
      @johnroscoe2406 Před 4 měsíci +49

      Because she was a #girlboss who was always in control!
      Until she wasn't. Her attitude was her problem at the fundamental level. She was the type of human being who was allowed to skirt by and "succeed" in everything she did because other people wouldn't allow her not to.

    • @EatsLikeADuck
      @EatsLikeADuck Před 4 měsíci +13

      ​@@steveludwig4200 Quite the dick move to suggest she was on drugs. Way to slander the dead.

  • @j.mauricerojas3650
    @j.mauricerojas3650 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Outstanding video. Very fair description, and I like that you explain the need for a dispassionate dissection of what really happened. Facts are facts and need to be learned.

  • @TangledNana
    @TangledNana Před 18 dny

    Thank you for being willing to speak the truth with compassion. So many people today are afraid to! Frankly I don’t fly nor have I ever been in an airplane but I have enjoyed your videos since they magically appeared in my CZcams feed😊

  • @StyxByrd
    @StyxByrd Před 3 měsíci +698

    She was worried more about telling everybody she was a pilot more than actually becoming a pilot.

    • @ricardoroberto7054
      @ricardoroberto7054 Před 3 měsíci +31

      Sadly all too common and a complete lack of self awareness is very dangerous. Know your abilities and limits.

    • @xObscureMars
      @xObscureMars Před 3 měsíci +31

      More money than sense it seems. This was a hobby for her and buying another aircraft says as much.

    • @rayluna7032
      @rayluna7032 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Well put

    • @exharkhun5605
      @exharkhun5605 Před 3 měsíci +34

      Have you ever met pilots? 😁I worked at an airline here in the Netherlands and I swear the average pilot spends more time in front of a mirror practicing how to tell everybody he's a pilot than they do in the air. Bus drivers we called them.

    • @jamesgentry13
      @jamesgentry13 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Oh look a bunch of non experts chiming in

  • @jcc6789
    @jcc6789 Před 4 měsíci +604

    I watched all her CZcams flying videos before they were removed, and 'shocked' is an understatement. It doesn't take someone highly involved in aviation to quickly pick-up on her attention to hair, cameras, technology, chewing gum, fiddling with stuff, social media, voice-overs - she appeared completely detached from the reality of what she was attempting to do and she showed no apparent concern of how knowledgeable and competent she appeared to whoever might be watching her online. It's as if all the lights weren't on or no one was really home - she just wasn't present in her situation - if you know what i mean. She was there, but she wasn't all there - and she apparently had no clue. I'm shocked her dad would go up with her. A horrible tragedy for this family, but certainly other eager students can and should learn from this.

    • @topfuelfan
      @topfuelfan Před 4 měsíci +55

      Ditto, Reminds me of so many soccer moms driving in my neighborhood. They don't even get out of the driveway before messing with their phones , completely oblivious to everything . I miss the days when so many would just chain smoke cigarettes and white knuckle it to the watering hole 🍻 The algo's have destroyed most peoples cogitative processes.
      If you read this far you should watch " The Social Dilemma" documentary style movie. It's very enlightening about social media and it's effects on it's users.

    • @___Neo___
      @___Neo___ Před 4 měsíci +66

      Yes, this the your new generation of pilots, doctors, train operators, etc. The zombies are already here..

    • @DerekKerton
      @DerekKerton Před 4 měsíci +66

      Dunning Kruger effect. She was so bad at aviating that she was unaware of all the stuff she was bad at.
      Non-pilot aviation enthusiasts, or people who know some science, or just a bit of orienteering, can spot numerous faults and weaknesses in her flying.
      Geez, forget aviation. How does she drive a car and arrive at a destination? Her route is due east. Put the sun on your right side, and you're already doing much better - with the bonus of not having to adjust the visors every 20 seconds. And the top device above her dashboard looks an awful lot like a compass. After take-off, turn right until that reads "EAST" or 90, and aviate a bit.
      But she wanted to use the tech in her plane. That's fine. But on prior flights they "didn't work for her", or she couldn't turn it back on. How on earth can you realize you didn't know how to use your GPS in a flight, then laugh at yourself about it...but not then spend the next week reviewing the owner's manual, then practicing using it ON LAND, then air. Same for the autopilot.
      Her video clips are just very hard to watch.

    • @aljazi7304
      @aljazi7304 Před 4 měsíci +8

      It’s tragic if you are not ahead of the plane

    • @ebenezerwheezer2957
      @ebenezerwheezer2957 Před 4 měsíci +19

      @Topfuelfan
      I'm almost 70 and I have been a licensed pilot since I was 19.
      I have never had a problem chewing gum and piloting an aircraft at the same time. As a matter of fact it helped me from getting a dry throat from the dry air in the jets.

  • @seansadventures-flyingtrav7901

    Great review...So cool you acknowledge the people in the video...Great break down and this will help others

  • @big1bass
    @big1bass Před 2 měsíci +2

    You did a great job presenting this. Very Classy and informative.

  • @27sport86
    @27sport86 Před 4 měsíci +674

    She cared more about SAYING she was a pilot, then she did of actually BEING a pilot.

    • @markymarknj
      @markymarknj Před 3 měsíci +73

      NAILED IT! It was part of her "boss babe" attitude and persona.

    • @marcdraco2189
      @marcdraco2189 Před 3 měsíci +39

      @@markymarknj life has always been an easy ride for her (she didn’t see it that way of course) until it suddenly did get difficult and then it was too late.

    • @livestock9722
      @livestock9722 Před 3 měsíci +47

      Feminism got the best of her. I see too many women like this living through a lens. Fly the dang plane!

    • @Kyle-xt8ip
      @Kyle-xt8ip Před 3 měsíci +5

      exactly what i was thinking. ​@@markymarknj

    • @srmj71
      @srmj71 Před 3 měsíci +32

      That desire to be a CZcams & Instagram pilot... for internet clout...

  • @jennifercovington7949
    @jennifercovington7949 Před 3 měsíci +495

    Being a pilot is scary. The one reason I stopped flying was you can’t pullover if you get lost. If you get overwhelmed you cannot pull over and pause. And you can’t zone out for even a second. It is constant attention because you are always moving in new invisible airspace and you have to be situationally aware at all times. It is brutally exhausting if you’re not cut out for it. If I had continued flying I would be a casualty for sure. I felt it in my gut.

    • @shae9364
      @shae9364 Před 3 měsíci +28

      Yep. I could probably get my license, but that doesn't mean I'd be a good pilot. I zone out too much. That's too dangerous.

    • @chrislonghawn4646
      @chrislonghawn4646 Před 3 měsíci

      10:56 10:56 10:57 10:57

    • @Ghostyfrost9688
      @Ghostyfrost9688 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Yeah fuck that

    • @troymitchell1931
      @troymitchell1931 Před 3 měsíci +7

      You can call yourself a pilot when you fly a commercial airliner

    • @57Raz
      @57Raz Před 3 měsíci +18

      The best thing you could have done. It is well documented that specific personality traits are necessary for success in such an activity. And while the typical pilot personality brings its own challenges, it is generally much more suited to the essential demands of high stress multi-tasking in four dynamic dimensions while suppressing fear.

  • @GW-qe8qe
    @GW-qe8qe Před 17 dny

    I have a 16 yr old pilot. This was a great video. To help others, the tragedy needs to be shared while being respectful of the unfortunate situation. Well done

  • @MA-jx9um
    @MA-jx9um Před měsícem

    Sad event respectfully critiqued and analysed. I find your clips compelling and thought provoking.

  • @842qwery
    @842qwery Před 3 měsíci +298

    I feel so bad for her old man. Being completely helpless, unable to help his daughter. RIP dad!

    • @zawarudo1041
      @zawarudo1041 Před 3 měsíci +76

      She needed help when she was raised because what caused this was staggering level of entitlement and severely misplaced level of self worth

    • @JohnnytNatural
      @JohnnytNatural Před 3 měsíci +5

      ​@@zawarudo1041how dare you 😭

    • @pearlsswine
      @pearlsswine Před 3 měsíci +11

      He raised her lol.

    • @analyticalhabitrails9857
      @analyticalhabitrails9857 Před 3 měsíci

      Its a darn shame.
      S.m.h

    • @PD-we8vf
      @PD-we8vf Před 3 měsíci +34

      It’s his own fault for never telling her she wasn’t smart enough to do this.

  • @Fast351
    @Fast351 Před 4 měsíci +220

    I'm a recently licensed pilot. I have about 125 hours and am working on my instrument. I've had friends ask to bring a GoPro with and share videos of flying and have politely declined. It's a distraction I don't need. I am serious about becoming a better pilot, and I'm spending all my flying time talking with ATC on flight following, flying into and out of my towered home airport, learning to hand fly a plane not having the altitude and heading vary more than a few feet and a few degrees, etc.
    In addition, I really think you're doing yourself a disservice as a pilot using auto-pilot when you're under 250 hours total time and still learning to fly, even in IMC. There is value in learning instrument scan and handflying even if you cannot see outside. Learn to fly before using all the gadgets that make things easier is the best approach IMO.

    • @bobwilson758
      @bobwilson758 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Agreed sir - completely !

    • @CaptainXiamber
      @CaptainXiamber Před 4 měsíci +16

      Agreed on the autopilot. I very rarely fly with one at ~700 hours. I imagine when I get into instrument flying I’ll find it to be more advantageous, but right now I prefer to hand fly.
      As far as the GoPro goes - I have a couple on my airplane and I film some flights. But I always set them up the night before so I’m not rushed on preflight trying to get them ready. I also set mine on the ground and let them run, if needed I can pause them with a remote in flight, but most of the time I film short trips so don’t bother. Video can be a great way to review flights, but you’re right, it can easily become a distraction if you aren’t careful.

    • @7thsealord888
      @7thsealord888 Před 4 měsíci +12

      I have heard it said that at 100-200 hours, a pilot "knows just enough to be dangerous". Sounds like you have the right idea.

    • @CaesarInVa
      @CaesarInVa Před 4 měsíci +10

      You are a VERY wise aviator. The more a pilot is distracted in flight, the greater the risk of mishap. If a pilot can reduce distractions to the absolute minimum, including minimizing cockpit chatter, the greater the likelihood of catching something at the nascent phase that, if overlooked, could have disastrous consequences.

    • @glennwatson
      @glennwatson Před 4 měsíci +4

      Worth knowing even as a low time pilot which circuit breakers will disable the autopilot if you are flying with one equipped regardless if you use it or not. Probably worth having some basic understanding also if its equipped. I agree low time pilots overuse the auto pilot regardless.

  • @timmotel5804
    @timmotel5804 Před 2 měsíci

    Good Day and Thank You. This is an excellent, detailed and honest debrief. It furthered my understanding of her whole story, of which I only became aware of after her crash. I have hours of flight training but never got my private license due to changing my personal direction in that area. No regrets on my part, but she had no clue and should have only flown on "commercial flights", with a "boarding pass". "If the truth hurts, then let there be pain". Old saying.
    Best Regards.

  • @Imkenster08
    @Imkenster08 Před 4 dny

    Very well put together sorry for the lost of life and for the family.

  • @usaturnuranus
    @usaturnuranus Před 4 měsíci +506

    You have done a great job of illustrating just how inept she very sadly was. I'm only a layman aviation fan, not a pilot, but it is just so blatently clear that she was neither qualified nor capable of safely operating an aircraft. She obviously didn't know what she was doing, didn't focus on the critical aspects of flying, and never should have passed certification. What a horrific mess.

    • @cw460
      @cw460 Před 4 měsíci +47

      And her father never said a word.

    • @mvd4436
      @mvd4436 Před 4 měsíci +28

      She should not have passed. But ppl that should pass fail , and ppl who should fail pass , all the time. It happens in driving too. Instructors that don't know what they are doing.

    • @rodneybrocke
      @rodneybrocke Před 4 měsíci +57

      Yes. Inept is a good word. She was in way over her head. Although she was not a stupid person. I think it was a complete lack of common sense. Her meandering in the sky trying to reach the other airport is embarrassing. I hesitate to say it, but I think some people are just not capable of being pilots.

    • @TRC_WA
      @TRC_WA Před 4 měsíci +61

      She was more worried about her sunglasses… makeup… GoPro setup and her CZcams channel than she was about flying the plane. Will the FAA ban vlogging until a pilot is instrument rated? Might be a good idea.

    • @HiThere-jn9me
      @HiThere-jn9me Před 4 měsíci +20

      @@cw460 Well he did say something, but did not know what he was talking about as he was clueless just like her.

  • @randemness2680
    @randemness2680 Před 3 měsíci +348

    When i was 16, my dad got me some flying lessons. After about 4 hours, i decided, no matter how bad i had wanted to be a pilot growing up in oshkosh with eaa, my brain was not wired properly to do it. So sadly i gave it up. I still love planes, meet many great pilots at airventure every year. Sometimes you have to recognize when you shouldnt do something, you wont always have someone to tell you no

    • @knucklehead4233
      @knucklehead4233 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Same

    • @randemness2680
      @randemness2680 Před 3 měsíci +12

      @@knucklehead4233 and i dont mean to come off mean if it does. I dont want to discourage anyone from becoming a pilot. Those 4 hours of sitting in a small cockpit next to a pilot, with headset on, flying over lake winnebago, feeling the power of the plane in the yoke. Nothing like it ever. Something everyone should experience once, even if its through the young eagle program.
      I plug them because i was part of the first class in 1992 in Oshkosh, and its something more people need to be involved in lol

    • @knucklehead4233
      @knucklehead4233 Před 3 měsíci +9

      I hear ya. I flew from a very young age with my father who was a great pilot and had his own plane and grass strip. I know he wanted his son to become a pilot and I took a few lessons that he paid for but alas I was too young. I never finished or went back. It's not for everyone. Even if someone could get through a course and solo...it's still not for everyone...(As we see with certain tragedies). I flew with him many times, went to fly-ins, got to fly in an open cockpit biplane('tiger moth' they called it) back from a fly-in with one of his buddies, Still love it! Just can't fly it lol.

    • @CD-vb9fi
      @CD-vb9fi Před 3 měsíci +4

      That just means you are wise. There are lots of things people love because they can't work out a way in their mind to handle it... and there are lots of people that meet their won demise thinking they can "wing it" or "fake it till they make it". Sometimes you just have to cut bait and find a new love!

    • @larion2336
      @larion2336 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I wanted to be a pilot as a kid. My first flight (on a small cessna) convinced me otherwise, lol. The sensation of dropping whenever you hit turbulence (which we had a bunch of) I really don't like.

  • @bridesnyc
    @bridesnyc Před 2 měsíci +1

    When you explain her mistakes..You are saving lives! great job

  • @user-is8jw5lc6n
    @user-is8jw5lc6n Před měsícem

    Very informative. Thank you, Sir ❤🙇🏻‍♀️

  • @lescunningham174
    @lescunningham174 Před 4 měsíci +503

    I was an instrument-rated private pilot. I trained in Knoxville and am very familiar with these airports and this area. I was always the opposite of Jenny Blalock...paranoid to a fault about safety, weather, navigation, etc. The crazy thing about this flight she was making is that you can almost see downtown Knoxville when you take off from Rockwood. There are two large steam plant towers and an interstate off to your left when you depart, plus the Smoky Mountains are due east. It's literally like getting lost walking to your mailbox. Some people just do not need to be pilots, period, and unfortunately for JB and her dad, she was one. The most important thing in life it to know what you don't know, especially in something as unforgiving as aviation.

    • @noroardanto
      @noroardanto Před 4 měsíci +59

      Agreed. Clearly she didn't know that she don't know. Watching her videos is like watching someone without proper gun safety training, playfully pointing a loaded pistol around his/her friends. You really hope not, but also know that something really bad is going to happen.

    • @chadjmoore
      @chadjmoore Před 4 měsíci +27

      Agreed. Unfortunately money talks louder than common sense.

    • @JohnDoe-bi5cc
      @JohnDoe-bi5cc Před 4 měsíci +32

      Shame that DEI is replacing guys like you with the Jenny's of the world. Terrifying really.

    • @ToOpen6seven
      @ToOpen6seven Před 4 měsíci +8

      Well stated!! So sorry for this tragedy that appears could have been avoided. Still so sad for this beautiful young lady and her precious father!

    • @REALPLANETXVIDEOZ
      @REALPLANETXVIDEOZ Před 4 měsíci

      TRAINER KNEW SHE COULDN'T FLY,,,,,,,BUT PASSED HER ANYWAY 😱😱😱😱

  • @myckee
    @myckee Před 4 měsíci +166

    Saw her videos. She was clueless. She was not ready to fly, and she didn't comprehend how her airplane worked.

    • @canaudit
      @canaudit Před 3 měsíci +4

      Auto Pilot- Please point me in the right direction.. No that was left direction

    • @vernscheck9089
      @vernscheck9089 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Yup, it's not like driving a car.

    • @jasonmarks1636
      @jasonmarks1636 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Blonde's don't fly and chew gum very well. If I was dad, I'd have said NO THANKS... hon...

    • @mickeysmiths
      @mickeysmiths Před 3 měsíci +8

      Yes, agreed 100%. She had no aptitude for flying & was well over her head.. but no one told her 😢

    • @MultiChrisjb
      @MultiChrisjb Před 3 měsíci +4

      Still, like any good insurance assessor, you should assume she faked her own death until proven otherwise.

  • @rumbear1
    @rumbear1 Před 2 měsíci

    Good report. Nice overlay of facts from previous videos. Clearly a tale to tell...

  • @v-town1980
    @v-town1980 Před 19 dny +18

    She flew but was not a pilot. She didn't take the responsibility seriously. Too many "you go, girl!" attitudes out there and not enough thinking. Sad.

  • @alanodonnell7234
    @alanodonnell7234 Před 3 měsíci +145

    I am a commercial airline pilot and I found this by accident. Your analysis is spot on and perfectly balanced between the tragedy of the situation and the responsibilities that come with being the pilot in command of any aircraft.

    • @RK-be2ym
      @RK-be2ym Před 3 měsíci +10

      Thanks for flying us around safely.

    • @virginicaanderson1569
      @virginicaanderson1569 Před 3 měsíci +2

      That's why I would never fly with an amateur pilot.
      We recently landed in a storm, with one aborted landing first, and I could have kissed the pilot to death!
      Thank you for being professional!

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X Před 3 měsíci +10

      I think this analysis lacks one important step. How did she obtain her license in the first place. The mistakes she makes are so grave and "ignorant" to put it simply, that I can't fathom how she could pass any practical test. She knew nothing about navigation or proper plane operation.
      Imagine having this woman as a colleague and trying to get her to understand CRM. The cockpit would be chaos in a stressed situation.

    • @darugdawg2453
      @darugdawg2453 Před 3 měsíci

      I tried Microsoft sim and i cant maintain altitude while also doing other things. Do you always have to pull back the stick the entire trip or im just bad at using trims

    • @over50gamer
      @over50gamer Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@darugdawg2453 Trims are a tricky thing to get right. Focus first on levelling off the speed so that your plane is no longer climbing (remember that more speed = more altitude) and settling on around the altitude you want, not what the plane wants. Then, use the elevator trim (the one that is usually just called "trim") to fine tune the altitude.

  • @gxd4b1
    @gxd4b1 Před 4 měsíci +284

    Jenny is the classic case of just following what someone told her .. but not understanding WHY she needs to do it. I saw all of her videos before they were removed. Its clear she really didnt understand basic physics, especially around the concept of lift and what causes a stall. In one of her most recent videos, her instructor was doing 90% of the radio calls .. and this is AFTER she had completed 400 hours (she seemed to be doing IFR training). There was also evidence in her recent videos that she wasnt aware that she needed to apply power when AP was engaged if you were pitching up and attempting to gain altitude. She literally said 'Shes struggling to get up', clearly assuming AP was going to adjust the amount of power needed automatically.

    • @wasabiginger6993
      @wasabiginger6993 Před 4 měsíci +11

      So tragic that she will not get another chance

    • @foxxster3565
      @foxxster3565 Před 4 měsíci +57

      Just think, if she had spent as much time reading the user manual for the autopilot as she did editing just one of her videos she and her father may well be alive today…

    • @mvd4436
      @mvd4436 Před 4 měsíci +17

      She thought flying was like learning how to drive. She seemed to have a lot of success and that had an effect on how she viewed flying.

    • @tstodgell
      @tstodgell Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@mvd4436there are already way too many bad drivers with that same attitude.

    • @mboyer68
      @mboyer68 Před 4 měsíci +12

      I was lucky in getting a true understanding of lift by accident. The 172 my father would fly before he bought his first plane had a million hours on it and just as you'd drop in a stall, you could hear an oil can noise from above your head. The oil can noise was the bubble of low pressure that was lifting on the top surface of the wing letting go. That visualization really helped me understand what was going on. Before that I thought the bottom of the wing would hold us up by air pushing up on it, but it was the top surface of the wing causing the upward force. Of course my father explained it all, I didn't just think of it. When the low pressure would let go, the skin would relax and clink, you could hear the oil can noise. I was 12 i think. Never heard that in the Piper Cub he'd take me up in (cloth). And it was funny because I was 15 before I flew in a commercial aircraft. We had to take a regional flight to the final destination airport and climbed aboard a ~20 passenger turbo prop. I was amazed when people were calling it a puddle jumper. That was no puddle jumper when you're used to a Cub and a 172!!

  • @bodhi974
    @bodhi974 Před 11 dny +1

    This is the third video I’ve seen, I subscribed after the second. I am not a pilot-pilot. I actually am taking an exam on Tuesday to get my sUAS remote pilot certification. I am fining a great deal of useful information in these debrief videos.

  • @sorover111
    @sorover111 Před 16 dny

    Dude I really like the way you do these, specifically the tone and language you use when recounting the events in these accidents. I think after you fly long enough, you get into situations where you realize how quickly, and/or how easily it is to get killed in a plane, no matter how good you are and no matter how seriously you take every aspect of it ( although you can go a long ways to mitigating the risks ). There are other good youtubers out there that do good, intelligent videos, and they don't necessarily denigrate or attack the pilot's mistakes, but I feel they can allow their own judgements creep into the language and or tone used describing these instances ( and the errors of the pilot, which as we know is pretty much every accident ).
    Keep em up & keep that head where you can empathize with these situations and the natural human characteristic of the mistake (or more often a series of them)

  • @Yurius
    @Yurius Před 4 měsíci +111

    My instructor once told me mid-training for my PPL that as pilots we start with 2 bags, one filled with luck and the other empty of experience. The trick is to fill the experience one before the luck runs out

    • @booneboone9705
      @booneboone9705 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Damn that's deep

    • @helotaxi
      @helotaxi Před 3 měsíci +1

      Lucky people live to learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. The goal is to be a wise person with lots of lucky friends.

  • @FrankSzczerbaSr
    @FrankSzczerbaSr Před 3 měsíci +410

    "I died laughing at myself" is one of the most chilling things I've ever heard. It seems it's literally true in this case. Instead of laughing at herself she could have recognized her weaknesses and sought additional training and understanding. Instead, she laughed and, a few months later, died and took her father with her. Tragic.

    • @danielnugent7709
      @danielnugent7709 Před 3 měsíci

      She died laughing herself right into her grave. Such stupidity.

    • @jennylouis60
      @jennylouis60 Před 3 měsíci

      Humans are always their Jen worst enemy…

    • @sgtelias2258
      @sgtelias2258 Před 3 měsíci +32

      I'm sure a capable woman in her other on-ground endeavors... but she does carry a smidge attitude of a woman who has relied more on her looks and ability to charm others than she has using her brain. Unfortunately, the plane she was flying wasn't designed to recognize the former.

    • @jennylouis60
      @jennylouis60 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@sgtelias2258 facts. Very sad. I guess dad was so mesmerized that he didn’t realize the danger either?

    • @josephesposito3499
      @josephesposito3499 Před 3 měsíci

      wo-MEN shouldn't fly planes. They're NOT as good as a MAN

  • @sawyerhja
    @sawyerhja Před 3 měsíci

    Another excellent debrief, conducted with careful empathy, while remaining objective.

  • @ten5487
    @ten5487 Před 2 měsíci

    Although these stories from Pilot Debrief are sad, I truly appreciate the host and the pilots who commented here. This felt the same when we had a tragic shooting of a police officer during my career. We learned from the incident afterward. Not to see who or what was at fault, but to learn that their sacrifice was not in vain and probably saved others from similar circumstances. I have not had my first flight lesson yet, but I have been made aware of many principles just through the pre-flight checklist mentioned so often in these videos. Thank you!

  • @LaszloBagi
    @LaszloBagi Před 4 měsíci +149

    I remember watching one of her videos, she was driving at the time. It might have been one or two, she ran thru a handful of stop signs without a care in the world. She didn't understand safety and control on the ground and she really didn't understand it in the air

    • @donmcbride1984
      @donmcbride1984 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Seems like Flight Simulator would help with her basic navigation issues. Like following a heading instead of "let's go this way".

    • @giraffezebra2698
      @giraffezebra2698 Před 4 měsíci +44

      @@TOMVUTHEPIMP I hope you are not driving anywhere near me. Stop signs are not just a suggestion. I don't run them and don't expect 90% of drivers to run them either. Keep in mind, she was on video running stop signs. I would think someone would be extra careful not to post a video of it.

    • @drbichat5229
      @drbichat5229 Před 4 měsíci +22

      @@TOMVUTHEPIMPI never run a stop sign, if you do please don’t drive

    • @LilJbm1
      @LilJbm1 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@TOMVUTHEPIMPI don't run stop signs. Especially if I'm not paying attention while driving.

    • @ebouwman034
      @ebouwman034 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@TOMVUTHEPIMP Roll through isn't the same as blow.

  • @saulnier
    @saulnier Před 4 měsíci +200

    "What No One Is Saying" is the immense effort Hoover shows to give his analysis while being utmost respectful, especially given the circumstances in this case. 👍

    • @pilot-debrief
      @pilot-debrief  Před 4 měsíci +21

      Thank you!

    • @AlbertHess-xy7ky
      @AlbertHess-xy7ky Před 4 měsíci +4

      Hoover is twice the man of Dan Gryder. Dan is half wit.

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@AlbertHess-xy7ky And, have to say, that is uncalled for. Let's see how you handle LOTOTO or ROTOTO - are you going to turn back to the field?

    • @AlbertHess-xy7ky
      @AlbertHess-xy7ky Před 4 měsíci

      Who cares what you have to say?
      Delta Air Lines has suspended a pilot while officials investigate charges he tried to run over two Griffin police officers with his private plane.
      Dan Wayne Gryder, 48, remains in the Spalding County jail, charged with two counts of aggravated assault and obstruction. He is being held without bond and is scheduled to be arraigned on Friday, the sheriff’s office said.
      A Texas court concluded that online allegations made by Dan Gryder against a Texas pilot and airport owner were false and imposed a $1 million judgement against him August 16. Charles Cook sued Gryder in 2021 alleging a campaign of harassment and slander.@@uploadJ

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ Před 4 měsíci

      @@AlbertHess-xy7ky
      And, I have to say, that is uncalled for. Now, can you please answer my question? How would you handle loss of thrust on take off? Would you try a turn back to the field?

  • @timmasterson3009
    @timmasterson3009 Před měsícem

    Always hard to discuss mistakes in a tasteful way. We are all human and things happen so unintentionally.
    You did a great job taking an unfortunate incident and hopefully saving another pilots life. Very sorry for the family.
    Keep doing what you are doing and keep the next pilot and their aircraft safe !!!

  • @emilschneider9974
    @emilschneider9974 Před 2 měsíci

    Its a very sad story of such a talented and ambitious woman. She had so much she could still do in her life! Thank you for your debrief and the care you took to respect her and her family in doing so.

    • @jimdavis8391
      @jimdavis8391 Před 2 měsíci

      Ambitious? Oh yes. Talented? Not at all.

    • @emilschneider9974
      @emilschneider9974 Před 2 měsíci

      @is8391 When I say talented, I mean, from what the video showed, she may have been successful in her business endeavors. I respect that.

    • @deeprollingriver52
      @deeprollingriver52 Před 19 dny

      @@emilschneider9974I guess we’ll never know because she…….

  • @CLdriver1960
    @CLdriver1960 Před 4 měsíci +443

    That was truly gut wrenching to watch someone fly who was clearly in over her head.
    Condolences to her family.

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray Před 4 měsíci +35

      Any reliance on god always scares me.

    • @phil4986
      @phil4986 Před 4 měsíci +20

      This. 100% . The young lady wasn't able to properly use the equipment and had a very low threshold of confidence in her own ability to fly the plane. That's why she kept turning on the autopilot, instead of simply looking all around the outside of the plane, getting her bearings and flying the plane. Her teachers should have been way more critical of her inability to properly see everything around the plane properly and actually fly the plane.. Damn sad to watch. Look, don't think I think I'm perfect either. If I was there, I would be just as lost. So I don't fly.

    • @2drsdan
      @2drsdan Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@Mrbfgray Maybe you should rephrase that.
      The fool says there is no God. Psalm 14:1

    • @greenefieldmann3014
      @greenefieldmann3014 Před 4 měsíci +10

      According to the video she had a degree in HR, though.

    • @larrysouthern5098
      @larrysouthern5098 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Deepest condolences to the family...
      I am so sorry to hear of this accident..
      Flying is supposed to befun...
      But it can be dangerous..
      I will make another comment on another comment section later..

  • @robmonkey
    @robmonkey Před 4 měsíci +203

    I saw on another channel she fired a CFI after one flight with him, blaming his instructional style for her poor performance rather than her lack of basic aviation knowledge. She replaced him with her non-pilot father. She was determined to do things her way. It was the deadly combination of arrogance and ignorance. At least she didn't kill anybody on the ground

    • @Ellie-rx3jt
      @Ellie-rx3jt Před 4 měsíci +35

      She fired the instructor she'd had for months because she finally listened to all the comments telling her how far behind her plane and lacking in basic piloting skills she was, and that he kept flying for her during lessons, rather than teaching her. She'd only had one one flight with her *new* instructor, not the one she fired. Her dad was just a passenger.

    • @vuggie123
      @vuggie123 Před 4 měsíci +15

      The cfi should take over controls if a student flies the way she did. Even flying stable approaches led to arguments even though she was flying way far to the right.

    • @thomasm9552
      @thomasm9552 Před 4 měsíci +39

      Her obituary referred to her as a "girl boss". This is why the people closest to her wouldn't tell her the truth about
      her ability to fly.

    • @shawnpemrick4303
      @shawnpemrick4303 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Ellie-rx3jther CFI left for the airlines, that’s why she got a new CFI.

    • @fdllicks
      @fdllicks Před 4 měsíci +7

      Blancolirio did some videos on that. Her other cfi stunk. He was on his cellphone. Hitting all the buttons for here, teaching little to nothing. He was bad.
      Blancolirio blamed some of her problems on crappy cfi's. Blancolirio says this is common in the industry, as cfi's are trying to get hours in the air to join an airline. Teaching is just a means to an end for them.
      They dont care if you learn.

  • @MrGhostwhowalks
    @MrGhostwhowalks Před 2 měsíci

    Most of your debriefs I’ve watched so far Hoover, send a chill down my spine for the immense amount of overlooking by pilots and other associated people with the flights. I might be old school / old fashioned in aviation, but the errors are so multitudinous and glaring that it truly chills me. I agree this young lady should have never been licensed, as some have said, but in the Aaliyah video, everyone involved should have been charged with her death, and in the video about ‘pilot jokes about crashing’ ; they were closer to my experience, but ignored glaring minimums I never would have.
    It just freaks me to see people being so ignorant of safety.
    That said. Your videos are extremely helpful. It sends chills down spine - but it helps with safety in considering them. Thank you for doing them.

  • @jazzyj6122
    @jazzyj6122 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Kudos to your debrief. Having a daughter, I think you did an excellent job prefacing the accident. No one blames anyone in an aircraft accident, rather, we need to learn from others mishaps. It’s a right of passage, and a way to pay it forward.

  • @abbieamavi
    @abbieamavi Před 3 měsíci +506

    As a flight instructor, I’m going to show this to my students who film their flights. Thank you

    • @analyticalhabitrails9857
      @analyticalhabitrails9857 Před 3 měsíci +31

      Tell them Mrs. Flight Instructor!! Tell them! Get on to them!!
      A skydiver explained the difference between' rules' and Laws.
      He said, Rules are written by men and if you understand the rule and the reason behind it thoroughly, understand your skills, and equipments thoroughly and thoroughly understand the situation you are in, you can, maybe with a little luck, break the rule(s) and be fine. For example, "Thou shalt not exit through clouds" is an FAA rule, but if you can explain to any investigator, why it made sense to do it, you'll be ok".
      "Laws are written by GOD, and there are no appeals. Gravity is the Law - if you exit this aircraft without a parachute, you will accelerate at approximately 32 feet per second UNTIL YOU REACH terminal velocity for your aerodynamic configuration"
      #fafo2029
      Aviation is UNforgiving!!

    • @OGParzoval
      @OGParzoval Před 3 měsíci +21

      You set the cameras up and if they screw up o'well. You can do it again. If you crash screwing with cameras someone else will be monetizing the story of how you died.

    • @MrZerosphere
      @MrZerosphere Před 3 měsíci +31

      Flight students who film their flights for social media reasons need to be banned from flying. Lord help us; idiots are taking to the air.

    • @ahndeux
      @ahndeux Před 3 měsíci +5

      Better yet, make the students who film their own flights pay careful attention to their videos. If Jenny paid attention to the EVP voices recorded in the video equipment, she could have saved her own life. It was obvious that someone or something was in the cockpit giving her directions. Even a guardian angel can't save you if you don't listen to what they have to say.
      What is the craziest part is the recorded voice at 9:56 which said "You're going to crash the plane!" Its a very faint voice that sounds like static, but you can make out what it said clearly. Right when she said that she turned it off accidentally and she turned it on, the voice at 10:01 said "Don't do that!" That voice was trying to save her life. I'm sure most people would not have even noticed it.

    • @jimjones-pz1tt
      @jimjones-pz1tt Před 3 měsíci +3

      I would refuse to teach anyone who films themselves flying.

  • @Honukimo
    @Honukimo Před 4 měsíci +193

    I had the opportunity to see several of Jenny’s videos before they were removed. As a CFI, it was pretty evident she struggled with piloting basics, which she apparently recognized because she let one instructor go and found a new one. IMO, she was not ready to fly a complex aircraft like the Beech, she always seemed to be behind the airplane. Her struggles with the Auto Pilot became a major distraction and I believe it contributed to this tragic accident.

    • @steveludwig4200
      @steveludwig4200 Před 4 měsíci

      She was a complete dunce.

    • @clockworkvanhellsing372
      @clockworkvanhellsing372 Před 4 měsíci +16

      I've got ~15h vfr on gliders with the 50 km overland flight and the practical exam missing. My last flight was ~10 years ago. I would still claim that I'm currently still more able to fly a plane than what she showed, which is, given my questinable skills, pretty terrible. I still can't understand how someone can have such a bad understanding of the principles of controlling an aircraft, task priorisation and pre flight planning after 400 hours, even with a new plane. Did sge have any theoretical lessons or are those not mandatory in the usa?
      And how can anyone give her her licence with that skill level?

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@clockworkvanhellsing372I don’t believe for a second she accumulated 400hrs? With her gross incompetence, she surely would’ve crashed long before this event.

    • @Atite_Lometen
      @Atite_Lometen Před 4 měsíci +21

      She fire him cause she felt he was the problem not her. By watching just a few minutes of her videos is evident that she never recognized that she struggle with piloting basics.

    • @mrtechstawk
      @mrtechstawk Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@Atite_Lometen Exactly. My thought. Someone on youtube shared the video where she is showing a snippet of that instructor and herself during their fly sessions. In her debrief she is completely putting the blame on the instructor and didn't take an ounce of responsibility on herself.

  • @kimberlyweld9310
    @kimberlyweld9310 Před 5 dny

    As someone who was a skydiver in 93, I lost my friend due to a reserve malfunction. While I didn’t have children yet (23 yo) she did. I’ve since became a mom to 3 and my youngest turns 18 this November. That will be when I return to a hobby I loved. Your channel has really helped my become hyper aware of things to take note & be aware. This video and story is tragic and not a circumstance I’d be in, all are informative.

  • @LadyChaos1992
    @LadyChaos1992 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I’m not a pilot, but I watch a pilot on CZcams. Kelsey, a pilot of the CZcams channel “74 Gear” has taught me one thing:
    1. Aviate
    2. Navigate
    3. Communicate
    IN THAT ORDER. It seems to me (again, I’m not a pilot) that she was focusing on communicating and filming above her aviating and navigating her plane. RIP to her and her father!

    • @LeTangKichiro
      @LeTangKichiro Před měsícem +1

      Kelsey is a great guy and a very competent pilot. I am happy that you find him interesting and learned one of the basic rules in aviation from him because it is totally applicable to normal life, too. If you focus on aviating your life properly and navigating yourself properly in order to know exactly where you stand in life aka not deluding yourself about your talent, only then should you even think about communicating your life as a pilot. And she had all the wrong priorities. Is that basically what you said?
      From a strict piloting perspective, that rule is meant to help competent pilots deal with task saturation aka overwhelm in order to get our heads straight again. If we are confused, it helps to know that we don't disentangle ourselseves by communicating first, but by flying the plane first. That rule only works if you are competent in aviating, navigating and communicating. That lady sadly wasn't competent enough to fly a plane at all. Even the aviating part seemed to have her task saturated and my opinion is that she shouldn't have even been around planes in the first place. Some people just aren't made for flying, whether it is a lack of spatial orientation, a character defect or whatever.
      But if I got you correctly, then you seemed to have a great application of these basic rules in order to explain where she went wrong with her basic life priorities. I like it a lot. In my opinion, she had deep problems. For example, what made her seek attention from the public and go into aviation in the first place even though she was unfit to fly (with dire consequences)? Why did she fail when it came to aviating her own life, navigating and knowing where she stood and why was she so focused on communicating her life while flying herself here (quite literally) into the ground?
      It is a good reminder that we should only become leisure pilots out of love for flying, not out of desperation for attention and pain avoidance. One can elevate you, the other can kill you.
      So aviate, navigate, then communicate. Regards from Switzerland!

  • @TommyFla
    @TommyFla Před 4 měsíci +448

    I was an Air Force pilot for twenty years and a flight instructor for pilot training for about half that time. This story reminds me of one involving a young flight instructor many years ago. As a student in Undergraduate Pilot Training (UPT), this young man required extra training to meet the minimum skills required for graduation. Under normal circumstances he would have been tagged as being in the bottom third of his class and would have received a follow on assignment as a co-pilot in a crew aircraft. This would have allowed him time to grow his skills under the watchful eyes of more seasoned aircraft commanders. But he really wanted to come back to UPT as an instructor pilot, and as the need for them exceeded the supply, he was given an assignment as a T-38 instructor. He took a lot of extra training during the instructor school and just barely completed it. He was sent back to his UPT base and his squadron commander was advised to keep a close watch on him.
    New instructor pilots are typically given the strongest students to teach. And while most complete the additional training and evaluations to be designated as fully qualified within four to six months, he took more than a year. He finally achieved the status where he was not being as closely monitored in his flying activities. And one of the first things he did was volunteer as the pilot for a weekend cross country trip with a flight surgeon who was meeting his quarterly requirement for flying hours.
    They left on Friday afternoon and returned Monday morning. His decisions regarding strong winds that morning raised some eyebrows among supervisors and he then elected to divert to another base about fifty miles away. After successfully landing there, his aircraft flamed out due to fuel starvation while taxiing to the parking area. That triggered a full investigation of his weekend activities. It was discovered that he had incorrectly logged his takeoff and landing times, landed with far less than the required minimum fuel multiple times and violated mandatory crew rest requirements. And most of the errors were attributed to incompetence rather than deliberate violations. His actions were so egregious that a Flying Evaluation Board was convened to consider if he should remain on flying status. In the end he was allowed to keep the wings on his uniform, but he was permanently grounded as a pilot.
    I thought of this story because it shows how a person who lacks the fundamental skills and self discipline to be a safe pilot can slip through the system. Evaluators see a pilot when he/she knows they are being watched and they are at their best. What they don’t see is how that person handles themself when no one else is looking.

    • @lightworkeight4136
      @lightworkeight4136 Před 3 měsíci +27

      Great post. I gues the bias is to expect that most will improve with time but as pointed out here there are a specific set of traits, behaviours, values, & characteristics that are actually needed from the outset to become a good pilot. Very unlikely that time & experience will instill these characteristics & traits.

    • @ebaystars
      @ebaystars Před 3 měsíci +7

      good story thanks for putting it here

    • @redleader
      @redleader Před 3 měsíci +22

      With all due respect Sir, She did NOT slip thru...she was dragged across the finish line. Her CFI is at least 50% to blame. I would have NEVER passed my ppt or any other checkride without basic pilotage and dead reckoning skills. She was a mess, passed on by her CFI. She never looks out of the cockpit! Unreal.

    • @jonkaminsky8382
      @jonkaminsky8382 Před 3 měsíci +25

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the young man you’re telling us about was a DEI hire. I too am retired Air Force. The bulk of the problem-people who were constantly creating problems were DEI recruits. The techs and masters who bullshitted their way to the top, and were completely useless, were DEI promoted. They were also the ones who would use favoritism to openly bestow favors onto the females and minorities in their flight, while passing over the others who were putting in the most effort to accomplish the tasks necessary each month. The political morass within my squadron was something that I found appalling, so on several occasions I spoke up about it and was punished accordingly. Your comment was excellent! I found no fault whatsoever in your words, but you simply reminded me of why our current military isn’t functioning as well as intended.

    • @philiporourke7896
      @philiporourke7896 Před 3 měsíci

      Great vid, thanx.

  • @dougcoombes8497
    @dougcoombes8497 Před 4 měsíci +315

    Watching this and other videos on this tragedy I'm struck by how little situational awareness this woman had behind the controls of an aircraft. Some people are not suited to be pilots, it's not a criticism of them personally, it's just a fact.

    • @ericbarker68
      @ericbarker68 Před 4 měsíci +23

      I'm amazed that she didn't comprehend to fly East after takeoff, if she even glanced at a map?

    • @steveludwig4200
      @steveludwig4200 Před 4 měsíci +30

      She wasn't even suited to be an UBER driver with those lack of navigational and GPS skills.

    • @CineSoar
      @CineSoar Před 4 měsíci +25

      @@ericbarker68 it looked like she had a map on her iPad, and a compass on the dash. She completely ignored the compass, and it appeared that she would figure out that she was going the wrong way, only when she would notice that the dot on her iPad had moved far enough in the wrong direction to be obvious. Her father chimed in a number of times, trying to say which way they were going, but he was only correct about half of the time. It was maddening that her CZcams audience could frequently see clearly, what she and her father had no apparent awareness of... the direction of the afternoon sun, and the runway they had just taken off from, which was just outside the window for about as long as the total flight should have taken.🤦‍♂

    • @cabovermike
      @cabovermike Před 4 měsíci +9

      Almost like she had tunnel vision,.

    • @theondebray
      @theondebray Před 4 měsíci +10

      Some people are not suited to be a pilot - like me. There's so much info, hold in your head & act on, I could never be a professional pilot. I had a go at flying & LOVED it, couldn't afford to get my PPL which I could have done. But this is so far beyond my credulity. I SUSPECT that she got this far cos she was a pretty girl, knowing some of the flight instructors that I knew.

  • @wingnut3578
    @wingnut3578 Před měsícem +1

    Jenny and her Dad, May GOD Bless your souls! Rest In Peace. So sad.

  • @TinkerBellTWERKS
    @TinkerBellTWERKS Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for your content!

  • @NotSexualAtAll
    @NotSexualAtAll Před 4 měsíci +472

    How much time do you think went into taking pictures of herself for her youtube channel, social media channels, and business interests? Now how much time do you think she put into learning how to actually fly? It's clear what happened here. She never cared about flying, but really cared about "looking like a pilot."

    • @powellriver100
      @powellriver100 Před 4 měsíci +23

      right on !

    • @n206ja
      @n206ja Před 4 měsíci +55

      She had the Ray Bans and leather jacket down pat!

    • @brentdavidson1
      @brentdavidson1 Před 4 měsíci +19

      I think you're mistaking time with initial competence. Certainly she spent more time to get a PPL than taking pictures, it's a lot of work and probably more if you're not very good at it. The competence just wasn't going to be there, and the examiner and CFI unfortunately do have some blame here IMO

    • @ryanpenrod1859
      @ryanpenrod1859 Před 4 měsíci +42

      Exactly. When every picture you see of someone is carefully posed with hair and makeup in overdrive, looking good is most likely the main thing they care about in life. Seems like the flying only mattered to her because it made her look cool.

    • @jamesgullo8240
      @jamesgullo8240 Před 4 měsíci +31

      She was clearly worried about her image, not her flying skills.

  • @RebelCowboysRVs
    @RebelCowboysRVs Před 4 měsíci +84

    I think she knew she was a bad pilot. She didn't get the new plane as an upgrade, she got it as a crutch. She bought it so the autopilot could do the flying for her. She was so invested in using it because she thought it was the fix for her issues. But it looks to have became a distraction that made her worse.

    • @jesse00pno
      @jesse00pno Před 3 měsíci +6

      Exactly my thoughts as I watched this. She bought the plane for the autopilot, thinking it would fix her issues.

    • @enginerdy
      @enginerdy Před 3 měsíci +2

      People are raking her because she put her skills on CZcams for everyone to critique, but this is the story of so many Bonanza pilots, aka the “doctor killer”

    • @jackmcandle6955
      @jackmcandle6955 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Her main issue was she didn’t know where she was on the planet in relation to the sun which should come naturally to anyone traveling.

    • @clambroth1923
      @clambroth1923 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@jackmcandle6955 That or she was mostly concerned which way the camera was pointing so she could posture for it.

    • @howard5992
      @howard5992 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jackmcandle6955 - a critique of her flying shows she was also frequently unaware of her air speed and her altitude and did not fully understand trim.

  • @TheDickoDude
    @TheDickoDude Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very sad outcome 😔 but Sun, horizon and what’s the time of day = rough heading 🤷‍♂️ that navigation hiccup would have had me questioning my own abilities early days.
    Fabulous to hear your direct and rational view on self critical debriefing , this applies in all pursuits 👌

  • @unclebucksoutdoors3767
    @unclebucksoutdoors3767 Před měsícem

    Great video. On a random side note, love the tomcat and the hornet in the background.

  • @fizzymouse8164
    @fizzymouse8164 Před 3 měsíci +257

    I'm a former Air Force Human Factors Mishap Investigator, and I find this frightening. I've seen pilots with a few 1000 hours that are also poor decision makers. Great Video. I just subscribed.

    • @chrisanytime1
      @chrisanytime1 Před 3 měsíci +11

      As a former army helicopter repair man, I find this frightening.

    • @deathstrike
      @deathstrike Před 3 měsíci +12

      Same, I was an Air Force Maintenance Chief and Private Pilot. It's the lack of details as well. Did she file a flight plan? Did she have primary and alternate airports along the route to contact in case of trouble? Did she brief her passenger? Did she have a plan B? Just so many things seem wrong. And not familiarizing herself with her Garmin Autopilot?
      Not the easiest to use, and best to find an avionics person to show you how it works. Also, Garmin publishes all of its user guides online. And making a video during a critical phase of flight?? Takeoff and landings are critical and need your undivided attention. This is sadly becoming a trend. Respect to her family for their loss.

    • @ppstorm_
      @ppstorm_ Před 3 měsíci +3

      why lie to strangers on the internet? is it an attention thing?

    • @deathstrike
      @deathstrike Před 3 měsíci

      Who are you talking to?

    • @ShunkUp
      @ShunkUp Před 3 měsíci +11

      Yea, this resonates with me. Several of my go getter friends got pilot liscences. From day one I made 2 rules. 1. Never fly with them. 2. Never get a liscences myself because I'm not fully invested into it, and it is a dangerous expensive hobby. There was a guy in work that threw a rod and had engine failure. Basically he did nothing wrong just wasn't in a new plane. He was able to land, and saw his family again. He had the piston on his desk (very very light weight design) and never flew himself again. I took the free lesson.

  • @BellaRio2
    @BellaRio2 Před 3 měsíci +288

    Two things, she had spatial disorientation and lacked spatial awareness on a clear sunny day leaving an airfield she commonly used while failing to look out of her window to observe the landmarks around her that would have been a huge help to her in favor of IFR. Very bad idea to swap planes with so little flight hours under her belt.

    • @mickeysmiths
      @mickeysmiths Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@elrey8876 You may be right. It's like a new Hitler for the gullible & easily mis-led. The young are easily railroaded into believing & acting on misinformation. They could never hope to know the difference or act appropriately 😐

    • @miguelbarrera8052
      @miguelbarrera8052 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Interesting observation, it reminded me of those people who have crashed their cars because they were following the GPS navigation into a blocked road and not really looking out the window.

    • @Clapperofcheeks5000
      @Clapperofcheeks5000 Před 3 měsíci

      Is spatial awareness a female thing or faux science

    • @CanYouRepeatTheQuestion
      @CanYouRepeatTheQuestion Před 3 měsíci

      @@elrey8876
      She was born in 1979. She didn’t grow up with social media.
      She was just an attention wh ore.

    • @mickeysmiths
      @mickeysmiths Před 3 měsíci +1

      This has been documented? I had no idea. You should always be aware of what is in front of you!

  • @jayvitali7909
    @jayvitali7909 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This story is so sad. Thank you for posting. First, I am interested in the psychology of the pilot. Is the confusion we see consistent across all flights or was this just a bad day?
    Second, I am wondering how she passed her oral exam or the check ride. If I was the investigator, I would spend some time on her examination and the examiner.

  • @user-ut2or4jc7n
    @user-ut2or4jc7n Před měsícem +3

    One thing is for sure, she's more focused on on board entertainment instead of flying that plane. RIP❤

  • @GlenAndFriendsCooking
    @GlenAndFriendsCooking Před 4 měsíci +156

    9:14 About 3 weeks ago I made this comment on one of Blanco's videos about this... and got shot down. Here's the comment I made:
    As a pilot and a CZcamsr who posts aviation content...
    I film my flights mostly for myself, as a debriefing tool. I rewatch while I edit and critique my every move and radio call in an effort to improve. Putting the videos up on CZcams is an afterthought to share with those who are interested in aviation. If people didn't watch, if there was no demand for the videos, I'd still make them for myself as a learning tool.
    What I can't fathom is how TNFlygirl could watch her own flights during the edits and not see that she wasn't in control. How could she not notice that she was always three or more steps behind?

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell Před 4 měsíci +31

      She probably had excuses for everything in her head.

    • @pilot-debrief
      @pilot-debrief  Před 4 měsíci +44

      I’m not entirely against cameras in the cockpit. Those that use them need to have a level of maturity and awareness to always make the camera secondary to everything else. Used correctly, they can serve as a valuable debrief tool like you mentioned but if the focus ever shifts to being more about the social media views than the debrief then it’s time to stop.

    • @user-it7lf7kk8m
      @user-it7lf7kk8m Před 4 měsíci +12

      It's a bit like those who take car driving lessons with their friends in the back. You cannot possibly be 100% concentrating on the lesson if you are considering what your mates are thinking, even on the remote chance that they behave themselves and don't actively distract. Cameras always have a possibility of doing the same .

    • @franktbone
      @franktbone Před 4 měsíci +21

      I also watched all her videos before they were taken down and the one common thread was not one of her CFI's were honest with her, they were doing the work for her. They also should be held accountable, this was a perfect storm of events leading to what happened.

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 Před 4 měsíci +13

      She probably didn't notice because it was completely normal for her. As far as she was concerned, that was what flying was.

  • @wordwoman9900
    @wordwoman9900 Před 4 měsíci +71

    I recently completed a motorcycle training course, and one of the most important things my instructors said to me was in the debrief after I'd passed the final test: "You've passed the parking lot test. I just need you to know that that doesn't mean you're ready to ride on the road." I was NOT, and I knew it, but it was almost a relief to hear them say it. And I spent weeks practicing every day in safe situations before I put myself or others in danger by trying a (quiet!) public road for the first time.
    It's really sad that she didn't have that kind of loving reality check from any of her instructors at any point.

    • @FatWhiskyDrinkingGuy
      @FatWhiskyDrinkingGuy Před 4 měsíci +11

      Good for you! Now, a little word from me with over 30 years experience..... You'll be learing for the rest of your life. Never think you know it all, and nothing will happen to you. Ride safe!

    • @carlbruschnigjr1757
      @carlbruschnigjr1757 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Also, there are two rules to keep in mind, Rule 1, Drive like everyone is out to kill you. Rule 2, Everyone is out to kill you. An old rider taught me these rules 40 years ago, and they still hold true today.
      But a good day on the bike is still one of the best experiences you can have. Stay safe.

    • @cray1185
      @cray1185 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Even more advice from someone who has ridden many years…(motorcyclist love to give advice). BE SEEN…not fashionable or looking cool. Fluorescent Yellow / Green / Yellow green …and a lot of it. Ignore crazy studies that claim it doesn’t make a difference. It makes a huge difference. I have witnessed the difference and my friends have also. It is great to be aware and maneuver around dangerous situations when other drivers don’t see you and surprise you. But it is much much much better to just be seen. Do whatever you can possibly do to be seen!

    • @NormAppleton
      @NormAppleton Před 4 měsíci +4

      Also, you WILL drop the bike. Probability is a bitch.

    • @kimj4185
      @kimj4185 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@NormAppleton Lol 100%

  • @jandevries1239
    @jandevries1239 Před 2 měsíci

    I am not a pilot but so now and then i dream i can fly. Sad story that has to be told to save others. Great content 👍

  • @vahnwinkle275
    @vahnwinkle275 Před měsícem +1

    Pretty, bubbly, attractive, witty, sociable, likeable, persistent, driven and very smart. This doesn't mean you can fly or should be a pilot. Failure is okay and sometimes being safe is the best decision you can make.

    • @gtt8428
      @gtt8428 Před 28 dny

      Can you imagine the outrage I'd they admitted this publicly though ...we are Germans now ..our religious beliefs are more important than reality. ..

  • @tonypybus8003
    @tonypybus8003 Před 4 měsíci +119

    Your military background shines through - your commitment to safety is without question. I love the none-judgemental way you have dealt with this subject whilst teaching the community how to "debrief" their own flight. Excellent work as normal!

    • @jaytrock3217
      @jaytrock3217 Před 4 měsíci

      Military and Safety, LOL. Two times the military cares about safety is when they already fucked up and can blame you. When you request to engage after being shot at, but need Pentagon approval while your ass is being shot at.

    • @pilot-debrief
      @pilot-debrief  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Thank you very much!

    • @tonypybus8003
      @tonypybus8003 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Your very welcome!!@@pilot-debrief

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@pilot-debrief I have said the same thing Hoover- yours is one of my favourite channels, in relation to Jenny’s accident. I wonder if she just didn’t know what she didn’t know - you probably have heard of the four stages of competence in your military career, ranging from unconscious incompetence, i.e. you don’t know what you don’t know through to unconscious competence you know longer have to manually think about stuff and you’re good at it, I feel looking at her. She was at the first stage and probably not actually consciously, knowing that she was dangerous and actually lacking the stick and rudder fundamentals

  • @DMBall
    @DMBall Před 4 měsíci +25

    That point about the lady's bafflement about direction, when the airfield was still right outside her window, spoke volumes.

    • @barra333
      @barra333 Před 4 měsíci

      As well as the fact that she was flying in an area she knew. There should have been landmarks easily recognised by her and her dad.

  • @johnrower4297
    @johnrower4297 Před 2 měsíci

    Been flying off and on for 34 years. Every time I started again I asked instructor to take me through it like i was a newbie so I can learn again properly. Has served me well to renew my knowledge versus just going out and doing it. Sad she and her father died but not knowing the basics of your airplane is a huge step towards a tragedy. May others learn from her mistake and thank you for posting this analysis.

    • @kylegilmore3810
      @kylegilmore3810 Před 8 dny

      "Every time I started again I asked instructor to take me through it like i was a newbie so I can learn again properly."
      Good post.
      Intelligence is knowing what you need to know, and being able to learn more.
      Wisdom is being aware of what you _don't_ know, and being able to acknowledge that.
      Completely preventable death in her case, had someone stepped in and just said No.

  • @SonnyPaints
    @SonnyPaints Před 3 měsíci +1

    I come from a family of pilots, civilian and military. I have to say, this was so hard to watch. It hurts deep in the heart because I know I am watching someone who is going to die. Either way, thank you for this. ❤😢

    • @samj1185
      @samj1185 Před měsícem +1

      Having sailed many miles beyond view of land, I'm well aware of the skills, equipment and high level of preparation necessary for success. Flying takes that to an extreme level w/ precious little room for error. Anyone who doesn't internalize the full scope of the danger isn't doing it right.

  • @ggeorge4144
    @ggeorge4144 Před 4 měsíci +208

    I gave a woman like her a flight lesson once. She had no clue what was going on but all she did was laugh and giggle like it was the best time ever. She did not come back for a second lesson and I was quite happy. Most students take flying very seriously as they should. I don't think Tnflygirl had a clue as to what she was doing or just how dangerous it was. Signing her off in a high performance complex airplane with her little experience was a huge mistake. If she gets lost as soon as she gets off the ground she really isn't qualified to fly anything, much less a Beech Debonair.

    • @sparkplugpeggy4910
      @sparkplugpeggy4910 Před 4 měsíci +11

      I would think any person who wanted to become a pilot would love planes, would have an interest in knowing the basic principles of flying at least.
      Hell, Me as a novice, who hates flying, is not mechanical inclined at all, i shouldn't know more about jennys plane than jenny, yet I'm certain i understand the trim swith on her plane more than her.

    • @karlscher5170
      @karlscher5170 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Daddy's girl probably never had to be responsible for her actions

    • @3xceIIent
      @3xceIIent Před 4 měsíci +17

      I saw another youtuber do a full reaction to the video that was referenced here (where she gets lost right after taking off) and it was quite scary. Even when I am not a pilot myself I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Right after she took off she got distracted trying to use the autopilot. She flew in random directions for like 20 minutes while doing so. She wasn't looking around for other aircraft (even though she was right by the runway). She never used her radio. For a brief second she would realize she was going the wrong way, struggle to figure out what direction they should be going, and then once going the right way again get distracted again. It was like watching a distracted driver on the road. Completely oblivious to their surroundings. It didn't help that her non-pilot dad was sat next to her making the situation worse. He was telling her the wrong direction to go, moving the sun visor for himself and blinding her in the process, and at one point when she couldn't turn the autopilot on he was going to start messing with the circuit breaker to try and get it to work. Luckily he couldn't reach it and gave up. She also asked him to turn the heat on at one point and when he asked her how I don't think she even answered him and he just attempted to do it on his own. The fact that after she watched all of this back she just laughed at herself for "not knowing how to turn the autopilot on" is quite shocking. Even if she didn't recognize the issues in the moment watching that back should have been horrifying.

    • @goneracing1646
      @goneracing1646 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@sparkplugpeggy4910 it's because we have serious cases of don't wanna-die-itis. Some of the people in these accidents are so casual in their attitude it's crazy. I take more precautions getting into my car every day than some of the people in these videos.

    • @randyharmon280
      @randyharmon280 Před 4 měsíci +4

      If The Truth Hurts
      ...it's supposed to.
      But my heart breaks
      for Her Family 😢

  • @user-fv2bm5sl4w
    @user-fv2bm5sl4w Před 4 měsíci +60

    I used to be a flight instructor and on two occasions I had to tell my students that I was really sorry, but flying was just not for them. I’m not saying that is the case for this lady, but I know it was the right decision for my two students that I had. If they would have ever been able to pass the check ride, I was 100% certain they would have killed them selves in a crash and I just did not want that on me.

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy Před 3 měsíci +3

      We need more instructors like you. Unfortunately many of them are just looking to make money and build hrs on their way to ATP, so they don't speak up when they should.

  • @pweulphaeupb
    @pweulphaeupb Před měsícem

    I’m not a pilot and, frankly, don’t even care about flying unless it is necessary to fly commercial. But I’m semi-hooked on your channel and am so very impressed with how objective you are in your debrief process. You are never judgmental in the subjective sense. You clearly are only trying to show where actions were done correctly and incorrectly.

  • @MortgageGirl7
    @MortgageGirl7 Před 2 měsíci

    My husband can’t get on the same flight with other co workers. So tragic for one family to endure losing her and her father. 😢 So sad. She accomplished so much.

  • @paulmca8514
    @paulmca8514 Před 3 měsíci +490

    I have over 35 years experience flying in RAF UK military and commercial aircraft, just over 16,000hrs.I am also a QFI at a flight school in SW England.
    To me this person is a classic example of what I would call " a no hope " type of pilot candidate.
    She has no clue how to even carry out basic flight navigation, she doesn`t seem to know how the systems on her aircraft work, or what they can an can`t do. She ignores basic flight protocol, makes no calls to the tower or radar to inform them she is lost. She doesn`t seem to realise the runway she just took off from is still in view, she should be able to correct her error easily, but relys on autopilot to fix the situation.
    It`s like watching someone drving whilst using a mobile phone, she is distracted fiddling with her I-pad. it seems to me her interest in flying is just to pose, and boast online, " look at me in my cute little plane, and my aviator sunglasses " .It seems having her own aircraft was a plaything,like a little dog, or whatever.
    Sorry but I wouldn`t put her charge of a shopping trolley, much less an aircraft. I don`t understand how she managed to pass her PPL, like I said she can`t even carry out basic navigation, or use the radio to report her position and intentions, really basic stuff.
    It`s tragic that she lost her life and also her father, I`m not heartless, she should not have been anywhere near flying an aircraft. It would be interesting to see her flightlog, and who her instructor/instructors were. The basic skills just aren`t there.
    I have had a few pupils in the past I sensed would be trouble, and I was correct, so I had to advise them that attempting a PPL was beyond them. Sometimes people can slip through the net, maybe this is what happened here.
    There was a fatal accident at a flying club in Northern Ireland recently, were a pilot who was known for pushing the limits crashed and killed himself and his passenger,showboating over the clubhouse. He took off, climed to just 50ft before banking hard over the airfield clubhouse, he lost control, and crashed inverted in a fireball.
    The pilot had just 70 hrs flying time, but thought he knew better, in that time had been reported several times for dangerous flying.
    Now I`m not suggesting Ms Blalock was a dangerous show-off,but she clearly didn`t have even basic flight skills, which makes her a danger to herself, and others.
    Some people are better suited to being a passenger, rules and regulations are there for a reason, they have been established over years of aviation, yet sometimes people just don`t get it.

    • @warblerab2955
      @warblerab2955 Před 3 měsíci +21

      It she was that bad yet still was able to pass her PPL, it says maybe they need to take a look at what it required to pass the PPL. sounds like the requirements should be beefed up. If it is true she couldn't carry out basic navigation(I don't have the knowledge to know one way or the other), or use the radio to report her position and what not, just how the heck did she pass her PPL? Sounds to me that passing the PPL should require that you are able to carry out basic navigation and be able to report your position.

    • @Bigsky1991
      @Bigsky1991 Před 3 měsíci +53

      There are sadly WAY too many of these girls out there online...each and every one with " pilot" in their name, tag, or Instagram title...and in 99.7% of the time, they are far more focused on LOOKING like a Pilot instead of actually getting the skills to BE a Pilot. And, the ending is always tragic. But...we as seasoned Pilots and IPs are raked over the coals if we mention this. It's only going to get worse I'm afraid.

    • @juliajohnson6022
      @juliajohnson6022 Před 3 měsíci +18

      Paulmca, very well said. I think you “hit the nail on the head.” Scary how she was allowed to pilot a plane when she seemed clueless in so many areas.😮🇺🇸❤️

    • @twest3686
      @twest3686 Před 3 měsíci +21

      @@Bigsky1991 I only hope these are not the pilots the airlines are going to hire.

    • @doun2others63
      @doun2others63 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@twest3686Google airlines d.e.i

  • @sciencelad8286
    @sciencelad8286 Před 3 měsíci +166

    I don’t have a pilot’s license but have flown hang gliders since the 1970’s. The most important thing for me was safety in all details. I guess that’s why I am still here. Aviation is unforgiving, you simply can’t forget this.

    • @hugoglenn9741
      @hugoglenn9741 Před 3 měsíci +2

      You didn’t take “take safety in all details”. Why do I say this? The Air Force wouldn’t let you do rodeo, ultralights, hang gliders, etc without commander approval but you could fly gliders. Why, because most gliders are certified and certified airplanes have 1/100 the accident rate of ultralights or hang gliders.

    • @sciencelad8286
      @sciencelad8286 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@hugoglenn9741
      I think you missed my point. I always put safety first. I learned everything I could, I studied accidents, I followed best practices. I went to work for a HG factory in Sylmar, CA to learn first hand. Hang gliding is indeed a dangerous sport, but in my experience , can be very safe and fun if you follow the rules and use basic common sense.

    • @EHangGlide
      @EHangGlide Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@hugoglenn9741 there are no accurate statistics for Hang gliders, we log or don't log our flights, and don't share them with any organizations. I have flown thousands of flights for over 30 years, and only know pilots that died because of their decisions, not the aircraft at fault.

  • @kirbyjason
    @kirbyjason Před 25 dny

    What a valuable thread for new pilots. One thing that strikes me: compass? I have a compass in the rear view mirror of my car. I can know if I'm going N, S, E, W, or some mid-way, NW, SE. I often look because I often want to know. And that's on the ground. Sense of direction seemed non-existent on this flight. Like a diver in dark water that doesn't know which way is the surface. Sense of direction and ability to read a simple compass is something that should be scrutinized and required in all new pilots. Can't just assume that everyone who knows how to get an airplane airborne knows by default which way to turn.