How WAKANDA FOREVER Sets Up a MUTANT WAR in the MCU
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever has brought yet another mutant into the MCU: Namor, the Sub-Mariner. But what does "mutants" mean in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Is Spider-Man a mutant? We think mutants may soon be used as a scapegoat for the government to crack down on superpowered people--that will lead to Civil War 2, and further divide the heroes before Kang Dynasty.
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And we think the introduction of mutants is also setting up a war between mankind and the enhanced, that could explode in phase 6 and beyond. [clip, magneto “the war is here”]
So let’s start with the mutant line itself. “I was a mutant.” When Namor says this is does not imply in anyway that he’s been told [clip, you’re a wizard harry]
Wrong clip. [clip, First Class “you are a mutant”]
Namor hasn’t had a Charlese Xavier recruitment visit. Ms. Marvel’s bestie Bruno didn’t run a test on his blood. [clip, Ms. Marvel, a mutation.]
He simply realized that he shared many differences from the rest of his people. Such as his winged feet, his skin not turning blue when he’s out of the water, his ability to breathe on dry land. And, he ages very slowly. [clip]
Basically, Namor’s power is to tear through his enemies like an M4 sherman tank through a German panther. Or since he can fly, like an F-14 through a Mig 3.
Forget the implications of the word “mutant” in the Marvel universe for just a moment. A mutation can be defined as “an organism that is different from others of its type because of a permanent change in its genes.” [clip, first class, different eye colors.]
Namor has such stark differences from the rest of his people. So, we believe that Namor simply used the term “mutant” as a brief descriptor of his condition. Explaining why he is so different from the rest.
But we as Marvel fans know on a meta level that there’s a lot of meaning behind that word, mutant. [clip]
The Marvel Comics universe is full of super powered people with abilities and physical characteristics that make them standout. But not all of these characters are “mutants.” In the comics, mutants are characters who have an activated mutant X-Gene.
A gene that when activated gives its host special abilities, aka, super powers.
Doug: What do you mean by “activated”?
Good question. People are able to carry the mutant x-gene without showing any signs of a physical mutation or super abilities. But later in life that gene can be activated, giving them their powers and causing a physical transformation. [clip]
Now what causes the activation of the X-Gene isn’t set in stone. We’ve seen the X-Gene be activated from birth, therefore affecting pubescent children. But we’ve also seen examples of it not activating until they reach puberty. [clip]
Another example is when an individual is placed in a cataclysmic situation. Such as Magneto being separated from his mother at a concentration camp. This moment of fear, sadness, and rage brought Magneto's powers to the surface. [clip]
Or take Wolverine for example. When he was a child he was sick and dying. But following the death of the man he believed to be his father, he became enraged. And out popped the bone claws. [clip]
Another example of mutant a gene activation was seen in Deadpool. We saw Wade Wilson undergo literal torture to activate any dorment mutant genes that may be in his genetic coding. [clip]
So, those are the many ways we’ve seen mutant gene activation occur in the comics as well as the Fox X-Men films.
But now we’re in the MCU. A universe that up until recently had no mention whatsoever of mutants. In fact, they were legally barred from even using the word “mutant” or “mutation” in any of their films or tv shows prior to Disney’s acquisition of Fox.
With the MCU now able to use mutants in their projects. The question has become, how do you introduce mutants into an already established universe without it feeling like a massive retcon?
Well, we have a few theories.
It’s been theorized by many that perhaps Thanos’ snap will be responsible for mutants. Perhaps we could see individuals who got snapped away and then blipped back now have a new gene in their genetic coding. A gene created by the power of the 6 infinity stones. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
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To me Namor was giving off Magneto(Fox Films) vibes in terms of his ideology and thought process in how he approaches and views the world. Especially the idea of “Us vs them”.
Namor has always been like that
Trauma and genocide can do that to people. For Magnito it was WW2 and for Namor it was colonization. They are the extreme push back to the atrocities of the current society.
Movies* have always been like that
They did Namor very well. Only complaint anyone can have is his pronunciation of the name....which isn't even relevant in face of the perfomance and accuracy of the characters portrayal
@@wellingtonsears818 agreed and I think it makes more sense for him to pronounce it like that. Especially since the queen didn’t.
I can see the Mutants pop up as a "villain" at first on Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars. With Kang's reasoning behind the "disappearance" of Mutant kind was because of the Multiversal War and He Who Remains was to blame for it (and played as a meta nod that everything prior to his death was because Fox's X-Men is a separated IP, so their "disappearance" was kinda justified)
Something along the line of "You should've exist way back in the beginning, since you all are Children of the Atom"
this is really cool. bookmarking this
I like this idea. He Who Remains pruned all timelines that had mutants because the X gene was too unpredictable and would breed the one mutant who could defeat him.
The serum john walker and carli took in falcon in the winter soldier didnt make them buff like steve rogers because it was designed to not make people go through a physical change
they also werent bombarded with vita rays
yup, this was stated in the show, Buckys serum was different too, I think all we are told about it is Hydra where testing on him though, I could be remembering wrong on that.
Change in appearance*
You need to wipe your mouth…you’re starting to drool talking about Cap’s buffness.
You're right.
"No chunky machines or jacked up bodies. Mine was going to simple. Optimized." - Dr. Wilford Nagal
I hope they don't make Spider-man have special mutant genes, a large reason WHY Spiderman is such an amazing hero is because ANYONE can be under that mask.
It was just Peter that got bit that day.
People didn't like the whole "Peters dad made the spiders with his dna" twist from TASM 2 because all that did was make Peter "The Chosen One"
the only one in the world who could have ever become spiderman.
We know that Tom Holland has max 4 more solo movies under his belt, due to the scoopers and also Tom himself saying he doesn't wanna play spiderman in his late 30s.
I think Peter will either quit or die and Miles will take his place in phase 8 or 9, so they'll have to explain that Miles also coincidentally has this spider mutant gene.
When an easier explanation COULD be that anyone getting bitten by said spider would grant them powers.
Was looking for this comment, so I didn't have to say it haha
spiderman is wack. people would cry if he wasn't a smart science boy. im done with his character. maybe its holland, maybe its the writing but either way i don't like it. and a lot of their new characters/actors that they brought in are top grade but killing them with this kind of productions. like cmon, black widow.
Plus there's a whole history in the comics of him being a mutate rather than a mutant, and being respected by the X-Men and other mutants, but still not quite fully accepted as family
The general public thinks Spider-Man is a Mutant.
Is Mutate = Mutant tho'? Because in the House of M storyline, a universe where Mutant is above and beyond Human, Spider-Man was considered a public figure in that universe and he's not a Mutant (unless I missed the point where Wanda created the world to include Mutate as Mutant). So I guess Mutate is considered equal to Mutant, but they're inherently different.
I want to know with the Thanos blip affecting Taluken, it will be interesting to see how Namur reacts to people from his kingdom turning to dust and more in the sea!
I feel like secret wars/ battle world will allow them pick n choose who to keep ,and who to keep ,and who to recast just by saying that those specific ppl made it thru/ were chosen ,and the rest didn't from their reality. So basically Kevin can pick and choose who he wants to keep,and who he wants a new one of , and can make sense of it all in Canon. It's actually pretty genius.
The comparison with gun registration and mutant registration is amazing. And it even leads to a civil war.
You do realize that mutants registration was first thought of around 40 years ago in the comics.
What mutants do you think we'll see next in the MCU?
The beast in secret invasion
It would be great to see Channing Tatum finally have his chance to play Gambit in the MCU
Abigail Brand as the mutant with a direct revelation in Secret Invasion.
Forgetmenot
Hinted Wolverine already
Steve also took a different serum than Bucky and John hence why they didn’t change. I’d you noticed Peggy changed form in the what if
Your transitions are the best. We don't talk about that much.
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This is actually due to variance in the TYPE of SS Serum.
Hydra's SS needed metallic limbs, the new SS serum was designed to make them concealable. This is actually explained in Falcon and the Winter Soldier!
My thought was that, like in the second theory, the mutant x-gene exists already in some people and currently requires some form of trigger that activates it. The Banner/Walters family requires gamma radiation, the Maximovs exposure to the mind stone, Parker radioactive bite. The type of trigger also probably effects the type of powers you get. I think to bring the X-men into the MCU there will need to be some event that massively changes the whole planet, perhaps an incursion will create an area of higher cosmic background radiation around earth or something, and after that people born with the x-gene will activate powers without an artificial trigger. Thus creating mutants as we know them in the comics. Longer lived mutants like Logan could already exist in the MCU but just gone unnoticed due to how rare they are.
Peter's father used his blood when he engendered human spiders.
So the spiders knew peter.
In the comics, there are "proto-mutants" - mutants that were born with their powers already activated. Supposedly, they're one step back from mutant evolution. In X-lore, the theory was that proto-mutants all died off because humans recognized them at a time when they couldn't fend for themselves, hence the next generation of mutants had their powers triggered during puberty. If you want to investigate more about proto-mutants in Marvel comics, it's pretty obscure but you'd need to direct your search towards "Jamie Madrox, Multiple Man" as the proto-mutant lore mostly revolves around him. Good Luck!
Great video! I’ve also been meaning to mention that since y’all put Doug in, the videos have been 100x better LOL! Keep up the great work 👊
They can say that mutants was always there but really it’s a timeline adjustment from Loki and the death of he that remains.. in the comics people like the hulk wasn’t killed from gama because of similar reasons that mutants exist
I think the sentinel program would work well for this story. The science will designate who is a mutant , the sentinels hunt them down
It would be nice if following a civil war involving Namor and talokan , the MCU introduces a storyline that has the government hunting for more mutants and they discover krakoa, a nation of mutants that have been hiding all along with the help of the eternals to avoid a war with humanity. Ok idk about the eternals but I know they gone throw that in there somehow 😅
In the comics celestials not only created mutants but allowed some people to get powers instead of dying. My understanding of captain America is that super soldier serum is the only thing that would give anyone super powers with side effects
All of this wouldn’t surprise me if the MCU is laying the groundwork for the XMen
I’m so happy someone is finally touching on this. This has been my working theory for the last year. And every time some thing new comes out and doesn’t discredit it I get so happy. I always simplified it as X gene + bad event + space radiation = super power (mutant). All these things that have kept appearing on planet from space that are suddenly changing everyone. Even though eternals gets a lot of flak I stand by that it’ll probably be one of the more important movies in the grand scheme of things with it’s implications. Especially going forward.
Yknow what would be crazy, is if we're heading into the dystopian future we saw in the earlier x men movies, one in which robot sentinels have damn near eradicated mankind in order to destroy the mutant gene...
But given the expansion and the meta of the MCU I'm sure things won't be exactly like that..
Ive been saying it for years. Mutants in the MCU are children of parents from different realms.
Namor says talocan was reached after a long journay, and doesnt seem to be just some random place. They have to use "magic" in order to access it. Hes a confirmed mutant because of that throwaway line. His mother was a human until she ate the herb, AFTER she was preggers. After she altered her DNA, Namor inherited mutant powers.
Ms. Marvel is the child of a human, and a Noor dimension inhabitant, changing the DNA structure of their kid. My guess is that the bands, ten rings, other cosmic things yet to be introduced, are just meant to focus those powers, and that their macguffin quality will end in their sequels.
Wanda is a funky one, we dont know if either of her parants were either mutants, or if one was a descendant from a different realm dweller, but i do feel like her kids are going to be mutants. Depending on whether or not they try to explain around all the existing incidents in order to confirm all this stuff happening behind the scenes.
However, i believe the nail in the coffin here is Shang chi. He wasnt established as a mutant in the first movie, but i have a feeling well learn soon that hes part of the mutant population, and the activation of his gene might give him additional powers like he had in the comics. His mom, Ta Lo, his dad, human. If we get any info that hes a mutant, itll confirm my theory.
Ms Marvels, statement about labels really makes me thing that the current "culture war" in america will be the setting for the introduction of mutants and the registration act. Well get a new president which will likely be a storyline in the thunderbolts, likely a trump analogue. Then well get a targeted media campaign against mutants, which will kick off their specific story.
Seems like the MCU is hinting that radiation could be something that’s vital to activating mutations. I think it’s extremely likely that the Snap will play a huge role in introducing mutants, especially because the radiation that would have gone out across the universe (3 times) would likely have to have an affect on people
If Namor was around for like 500 years then the X-gene was around for at least that long
Great content
Very cool theories n takes . Digging it
"We're all infected."
The Walking Dead, Season One.
Wilfred Nagel the guy who made the serum in FATWS explicitly said he made his serum for stealth so that there wouldn't be bulging muscles like with Erskine's. As for Bucky HYDRA presumably didn't have Erskine's formula as well.
I think we should be seeing, comparatively, many mutants from now on because of the snap but mutants were always there. They were just very rare. That way we can still have myth, legend, and historical context to old mutants (like Namor) and keep the Maximoff twins as mutants, but moving forward we’ll see many more because of the snap. And it’s not necessarily the people who were snapped. The universe felt the radiation from the use of the stones 4 times (Thanos twice, Hulk, and Tony). That is a lot of radiation so, like having too many x-rays, it could cause mutations. But just like having many x-rays can increase your chances of mutations (usually seen in the form of higher chances of cancer) there is no guarantee of having mutations. If anything, the people who were not snapped away would have a higher chance of getting mutations that give them powers because, as stated above, they experienced infinity stone snap radiation 4 times compared to the people who experienced 2 snaps.
Civil War 2 is about to be one of the biggest and most interessing events in the MCU
The US government is trying to get vibranium to activate mutants powers. It’ll be kinda like the Ultimate universe. Making mutants to try and replicate the super soldier program. With some of the older mutants already having their powers activated by other means (Logan, Magneto, Prof X)
Ultimate Universe is 1610 Logan was patient 0 and He was experiment on the in 1930's the virus spread that like virus the X genes airborne.
I don’t think the infinity stones gave people the mutant gene but rather that they were the cause (the blip) of its activation, the trigger. The mutant gene must be something the celestials introduced to help humanity to survive in extreme conditions
I don’t think that would work with Spider-Man since part of his popularity is because everyone “ thinks “ they’d become Spider-Man if they were bitten and thus we can all see ourself in Spiderman.
I serious want you to direct a comic movie Ryan , the way you put things together is just right
I agree with them classifying most enhanced individuals as mutants, and also there will be another civil war at some point
Some of these people you mentioned could be classified as mutates and not mutants. Mutants are people that have a power embedded in their DNA from birth and it is activated through Puberty/stress . Mutates are people that gain their powers through an outside cause. Spider-Man, The Hulks, The Super-Soldiers, Captain Marvel, Monica Rambeau, etc; got their powers from an outside cause (Radioactive spider, Gamma radiation, Super-Soldier serum, The Tesseract, Wanda’s chaos magic), but Wanda, Pietro, Kamala & now Namor had it in their genes and either puberty or stress caused it (Apartment explosion allowed Wanda to stop the 2nd shell explosion & probably unlocked Pietro’s superspeed, Kamala’s stress after the kree bangle showed her the noor dimension plus being at AvengerCon, and Namor watching the British enslave his people when going to bury his mother)
When I watched phase 4 over again time and time again in almost every show and movie they would talk about genes a lot or something like it… from falcon and winter soldier- black widow when they said certain genes or something like that is how the black widow who graduates finishes the process
Kevin Feige is supposed to bring all his Marvel projects into Secret Wars (Blade franchise, 2000 X-Men franchise, 2003 Hulk, 2002 Daredevil, and the MCU)
In the comics Bruce, Jen, Ross, Betty and others are classed as "gamma mutates". Neither mutants nor inhumans
the mcu isnt the comics they change things all the time.
I think we could also see it explained that some mutants existed before, but many were recruited by Charles Xavier and so far the X-men were just VERY careful to stay under the radar. Possibly even using mutants with the right abilities to cause any witnesses to forget what they've seen
I wonder if Namor knew about Thanos and the reason why half his people probably disappeared during the blip. Or did he get blipped? I wanna know
"This is where the fun begins!" - Anakin Skywalker
I'm excited for Marvel's phase 7!!
But since Namor is 500 years old wouldn't there already be mutants before thanos snap half the population?
There is theory that some Mutants like Professor X and Magneto and Logan were the few Mutants are active the others are dormant. Mutants are Born
Another awesome episode! When Ryan spoke about "anyone with mutated genetics" being considered a mutant, it made the X-Men feel just another set of faces joining the MCU and teaming up. If Carol Danvers, Bruce Banner, and Steve Rogers are all mutants, what makes Professor X or Cyclops special? Outside of their respective abilities, of course.
I love the idea of the blip having something to do with sparking genetic mutation in humans with the X-Gene. The mutants deserve an origin that gives them a proper rise within the MCU. They should be teased, built up to, and explored. Also, I'd love to see an adaptation of Marvel's Civil War II. It was a great story.
Steve Rogers and Carol Danvers and Bucky Barnes and Bruce Banner are all Mutates!!!! and don't have the X-gene and NOT BORN THAT WAY!!!!
Ryan, MCU is following the post-Ultimates timeline where most of the mutations are a result of someone else trying to re-create Prof. Erskine’s Super-Soldier formula.
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this got some huge Genosha vibe. i really hope they dont mess mutants up!
so the MCU is somwhat like the Ultimate Marvel universe in the comics where most of the Enhanced people are nearly all called Mutants.
Don't forget, the hulk snap was with stones that were displaced in time, I'm sure that in itself caused abnormalities , then used again by stark
I don't know about Civil War 2 when there are so many crossover events the MCU can take inspiration from. But I would gladly listen to the X-Men animated series' tune for 10 hours on repeat
That first theory is pretty solid, if the cube disintegrated red skull but powered up captain marvel, she may carry the gene and he didn't?
It didn’t disintegrate him, it transported him
Black Widow, in the Black Widow screen when she falls from the building, bangs around during the fall and lands on her feet was really muti like 🤔
Heyyyyy u said Namor right at the end!
Need Michael Fassbender Magneto / Namor team up
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Thank for the detailed video! Ryan storm is so awesome can't wait to see how an MCU version of her will be. Hopefully they Really get into her African origins. That would make the character so much interesting!
Kill Ratio Panther vs. Sherman was something like 5-10:1. For every 5-10 Shermans that got killed, only one Panther was shot down. Sounds not like the Sherman "tears through" the Panthers ;)
Sherman tanks, individually , were badly outclassed by the German model. It took about 5 Shermans to take out a Panzer, and that by using 4 of them as decoys.
Just wondering, would Legion also be considered canon? It would be pretty cool to see Professor Xavier’s son again, his powers were like the scarlet witch sort of
Dude is the definition of OP, nah OP is an understatement describing him
@@madtitan0825 hes basically reality
They dont need to make it canon. If they wanted legion in the mcu they could just make a new version of him that's part of the mcu.
@@madtitan0825 yea and that show was badass
@@Krill25 well they might as well add him in after the mutant saga cause he’s like omega mutant
Doctor strange Powers came from other dimension he doesn't have power but someone like Ned could have powers who needed the sling ring to activate
In the 90s spiderman cartoon, spiderman was considered a mutant by Charles Xavier.
Namors characters was done really well.
Honestly, I always thought that populist villains classifying all superheroes as "mutants" would make way more sense than the public arbitrarily deciding that soms superheroes were bad because they were born with powers instead of being bitten by a radioactive ground sloth.
I think they’ll do both, so while there will be the scientific people who classify the difference in mutate and mutant and just people who got cosmic powers I also think to the average person and bad politicians they will group them. I hope they use muties like in the old X-Men cartoons.
I really want the MCU to save the mutant stuff for a third saga. Leave some set up that would normally go unnoticed and then dive in during phase 7 with films like Deadpool 3 and ending in the X-Men, setting up a civil war at the end of phase 9 and the mutant saga
After secret wars
I could see the government trying to push for a certain program
To control the rise of more powered individuals
Both mutants and other superheroes
The creation of the Sentinel program
The sentinels not only killed mutants in the original days of future past story but other heroes fell like Spider-Man
The Fantastic 4
Iron man etc. So it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out as more mutants continue to appear
This is true in the original story DOFP the Sentinels kill all the powered individuals.
If it were me running things, I would establish mutations have alway been among us. I would debut X-Men concurrently with the Fantastic 4, revealing that they first came into prominence in the 1960s. And whereas the FF disappeared in their origin story, prompting them to be considered lost and irrelevant to the previous MCU phases until they re-emerge in their upcoming film, mutants would have an origin wherein their struggle was entwined with the Equal Rights Movement in the 60s. I would have the origin end in a huge confrontation where someone did a similar thing to comicbook Wanda's "No More Mutants." And what that did was remove mutants from collective consciousness, not existence itself. The handful that became "known" in the 60s were suddenly unknown, much like the Peter Parker spell. Then a future phase shows that worldwide effect lifted by some event and mutants become known again. (Kinda like The Sentry's comics origin too.) And perhaps a good way to do it is when the Skrull invasion is discovered. Perhaps something is done to try to reveal them all in hiding (think ending of They Live) and a byproduct of that event also reveals the cosmically redacted knowledge of mutants through the decades. That's the general story I'd pitch.
I wonder if he chose not to mention the Quantum Realm as Theory. Wasp says “it’s evolution” when talking about the impact that it had on her
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Sounds like captain America new world order will be the next “civil war” introduction
For what happen to Deadpool, I call it DNA Memory; like in the original X-Men timeline in the 1980's Wade was indeed a mutant but since the timeline was reset he was reboot or incarnated to a regular guy but with a high possible chance his X-Gene was indeed inside him but had to be reactive somehow; more like being reincarnated to me in a way but that's how I see it
Hopefully they'll explain more in universe the difference between MUTANTS and MUTATES and who's which.
Just to make sure I understand Daredevil would be a mutate, right?
@@lw1391 yeah his powers came from that radioactive waste that got in his eyes.
I think more relevant than the reveal is the reaction. That's what is telling. Neither Kamala or Suri act like the idea of mutation/mutants was outrageous. Or even like they never heard of it.Other thing VERY IMPORTANT RYAN DID NOR MENTION: Namor is about 500 years old. It's very hard to believe he's the only human being that mutated in the last 5 centuries. Clearly there are more mutants around the MCU. Some probably for a very long time. Remember Mr Immortal from the She Hulk. He's imortal ( duh) and a mutant.
I strongly believe MCU will take that "mutants were always here" aproach.
I think the "they were always there" approach should be mixed in with one of the theories where mutants are created by the blip or an incursion. Blip would create new/more mutants. While old mutants like Wolverine can always be there via the first theory. So it's the best of both worlds.
I think in the comics Deadpool was not really a mutant. He was given his powers by a serum made from Wolverine's blood.
Correct. Not a mutant, but a "mutate." He was given Wolverine's healing factor.
@Dank Fartz in the comics he is defined as a mutate and can't enter Krakoa based on that technicality.
@Dank Fartz "i think in the comics" learn how to read....
11:50 unless you're the doctor who lost both their cats and had their brother die during the blip lol
The X-men tune from Ms Marvel never gets old!!
Steve Rodgers appearance changed because he didn't just take the super solider serum from Erskine he was also infused/injected with vita rays that helped him grow. Bucky and John Walker just took the serum and it was a knock off version too
I'm ok with the Inhumans being considered Mutants, because the Terrigen Mist is like their puberty. I think people like Spider-Man, Hulk, Steve Rogers, Carol Danvers should be called Enhanced. I suspect the DODC will be against all of them, anyway.
Dream show would be a 6 episode Weapon X mini-series featuring their new Wolverine before the main X-Men movie(s) drop
Like Bourne meets Saw lol
I would love to see a Civil War 2 in the MCU but only after the Multiverse Saga and after the mutants and Fantastic Four are fully flushed out.
I think the secret ingredient in Captain America's serum was the heart-shaped herb
i think if they just decided to start declaring any mf with powers as a mutant, that would be an INSANE misstep.
having the classification of being a mutant is what separates the X-Men from all the other heroes in the comics. a group of super humans that are hated by the whole world while there’s other heroes like the Avengers who are celebrated like celebrities is hands down one the most interesting concepts from the comics- abandoning that would be a shame.
i’ll let Kamala slide considering she’s actually an Inhuman in the comics and MCU 616 doesn’t have Inhumans yet (that we know of)- just as long as they don’t make her an X-Man.
Cap was also hit with vita-rays. That’s why he grew. Same thing for Peggy.
The start of Civil War 2 which could now take small implications from the original Civil War comics that dealed with the mutants
I always thought that when they undid the snap, that was the perfect time to introduce mutants into the MCU.
Like maybe mutants were always around but rare. then undoing the snap was the catalyst for the x-gene being activated on a global level: obviously the half that was brought back wouldve become mutants.
It seemed like the perfect way to introduce them and I hope it still factors into it.
You’re a mutant! You’re a mutant! Everyone is a mutant!!
One of your best and most logical theory.
my headcanon is that part of ironmans snap was to create mutants to help protect the universe
I'm thinking depending on how Deadpool 3 plays out, you can almost easily retcon X-mens new timeline in the MCU seeing how most of those stories take place in the 70's, 80's, 90's. Events Shield could have covered up, even before Nick Fury was recruited.
In the comics version they dance around whatever that Deadpool was a Mutate or Mutant. Deadpool always told people the his cancer made him a mutant. People always thought him as a mutate cause he got Wolverine abilities in lab experiment. In the Movie version they made a mutant with dormant x gene and with needle with Wolverine's blood in it.
After you put out your last wakanda forever vid breakdown, all the other breakdown channels jumped on all your theories! :)
Hey Doug! You’re my favorite
Honestly, I've always thought the most straightforward answer to "Why haven't we seen mutants yet?" has been to just look at the first X-Men movie, or the first episode of the cartoon, or X-Men First Class:
They are a newly emerging phenomenon, the scientific community has just gotten up to speed to even classify them, and the few mutants who were around were mostly isolated, and certainly didn't KNOW they were "mutants", just that they were special.
The way I always understood it was first people within the mutant community recognized each other, then people in certain branches of science and government became aware, but it wasn't until some tipping point event made them visible to the world-at-large.
So basically, we HAVE been seeing either some mutants, or at least a world where they lurked in the shadows. I mean, the X-Men have to start SOMEWHEN, might as well be now.
Civil War Two should start as a disney plus series first. Something in the light of andor, a political thriller, and then culminate into a civil war movie which is a head on conflict similar to civil war 1.
The whole underwater race are gilled super soldiers.
The actor that played Senator Kelly was in Multiverse of Madness, he sits behind Dr Strange during the wedding.
Spiderman part would be hard with silk but maybe they could magic retcon her
Yes that makes sense
They say dogs can look like there owners and I see it here lol.