What If...T'CHALLA Didn’t Kill KILLMONGER?
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Black Panther Wakanda Forever had to deal with the heartbreaking loss of T'Challa. But it got us wondering...what if another Wakandan king had lived? What if T'Challa spared Killmoner's life? IN this video, we walk through this nightmare scenario in a Marvel Cinematic Universe What If.
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Written and Edited by Pavel Terehovsky (pavel8866.wixsite.com/pavelt) pavel8866@gmail.com
Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
#BlackPanther #Killmonger #whatif
In the final battle in 2018’s Black Panther, T'Challa was forced to kill Killmonger.
Moments before Erik’s death, T'Challa offered to heal his cousin, but Killmonger refused, he didn’t want his life saved only to spend the rest of it caged in a cell. And this was Killmonger’s end.
But the multiverse is vast and filled with infinite possibilities, and there is an Earth where T'Challa made a different decision, he saved Killmonger.
Would Killmonger join the fight against Thanos? Could Killmonger be redeemed?
How would he deal with Namor and the war with Talokan?
If Killmonger survives, then the most interesting story is the aftermath of the snap. A dark time where half of all life is gone, including T'Challa and Shuri. A time where Killmonger can either become Wakanda’s new protector or the most deadly villain on the planet.
Thing is that this is Killmonger, so he might take over, kill the Avengers and turn Wakanda into a galactic empire.
So let’s ask the question - what if Killmonger survived….
So let’s begin at the moment Killomonger removes the spear from his body.
While Killmonger is still bleeding to death, T'Challa decides to save his cousin.
He believes that letting his cousin die here will be repeating history. His own father’s decision to kill his brother, turned Erik into Killmonger.
And now T'Challa feels obligated to be better than his father and give Erik a second chance.
T'Challa calls Shuri and urges her to help him save their cousin’s life.
At first Shuri refuses, arguing that they should let him die after all that Killmonger did and all the people he killed.
But T'Challa says that Erik is their family, and he deserves a second chance, the opportunity that was robbed from him when he was a boy. T'Challa says that they must aspire to be better.
For too long they closed their hearts to the suffering of those outside of Wakanda. And if they let Erik die now, they only prove that he was right.
Reluctantly, Shuri begins the operation.
Killmonger is mortally wounded, but the heart shaped herb’s superhuman effects keep him alive. And with Wakanda’s miracle tech and Shuri’s skills, his life is saved.
T'Challa isn’t naive, he knows what Killmonger is, and that it will be a long and hard road to rehabilitate him.
Since he cannot trust him, he puts Killmonger in a fancy prison that overlooks Wakanda’s sunset.
But when Killmonger finally wakes up, he sees the room as nothing more than a cell.
To Killmongers surprise the heart shape herb effects still run through his veins. T'Challa explains that the herb’s power is the only thing that keeps Killmonger alive. This is why he didn’t remove it from his body.
Over the next two years, T'Challa visits him almost every day, giving Killmonger something he lost when he was a boy - love and kinship.
Killmonger won’t change that easily though. He sees T'Challa’s good intention as weakness, so he starts using that, believing that it’s the one way for T'Challa to let him out. And once he’s free, he can finish what he started.
But before he gets a chance, Thanos happens.
When the Avengers call for Wakanda helps against Thanos, T'Challa considers letting Erik join the army. But eventually T'Challa decides that there’s too much at stake and he simply doesn’t trust Killmonger yet.
Side note. When planning this What If, we wanted Killmonger to fight Thanos, and even give him a redemption story. But going in that direction feels too predictable and it will only cheapen the story. We went the other way.
And so, as the battle for wakanda begins, Killmonger watches it all from his cell, witnessing everything.
Seeing the armies in action, Killmonger actually is rooting for Earth’s forces, but only because he wants to use such an army to achieve his own goals.
But just as it looks like the day is wone, the snap happenes. Killmonger stands at his window, watching in disbelief as people start turning to dust on the battlefield. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
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Can you do Peter Parker is wrong all 3 of them for Tobey Maguire Spider-Man covering up a crime Obstruction of Justice.
I have a couple ideas
What if.... ouatu (the watcher) was evil
What if .... meohisto WAS in wandavision
What if... gorr was actually comic accurate
What if ... DOUG WAS A CAT???
The Tweek's Coffee homage was not lost on me
Sorry, stupid, worse than the What If cartoons.
I clapped when I saw Killmonger in Wakanda Forever. 👏🏿
Hands down my favorite scene !
I feel a great sense of sadness that I’ll never see this play out. This is so beautiful
Zemo should have taken a page from Peter Quill's playbook and challenged killmonger to a dance contest. We know he's got the moves
Screen crush treated Killmonger better than the MCU did.
no he didnt lol
This is probably the best concept for another Killmonger Whaf if but the MCU still treated Killmonger with the utmost respect. The only bad thing they did was kill him off but even the character seemed like he was ready to die
AMEN TO THAT!
The what if the mcu did do is better
legit i want him back
If T'Challa had spared Killmonger, Namor would regret stepping on land
Ok! Namor would’ve been NoMore!
Yeah to bad T’Challa didn’t kill Killmonger
Yea bc even tho T’Challa was dead he would of fought namor and destroyed him
Killmonger should not have died. He should’ve been left alive, healed and been a member of the thunderbolt Ross team. I can understand Killmonger‘s anger. The racism that he seen is unfathomable. He didn’t want to kill everybody he just wanted to bring his “justice“ to the world because of injustice toward his race and culture. I can understand being that angry. He could’ve been the MCU’s version of Black Adam. If Black Lighting was in the MCU instead of the DCEU, he could’ve reformed Killmonger and put that rage and anger toward helping his community like Black Lighting did for Fremont. Also, they have an actor at the quality of Michael B Jordan should be in the MCU. He is a great actor.
I love these videos. Could you do a "What if steve failed returning the stones?". It would be cool to atleast explore what his journey was like and what the outcome would be if he failed.
One of the best untold stories including Spider-Man 4💯
First, the Earth would be consumed by Dormammu. Second, Malekith would be pissed, staying in his Dark Hole forever. Third, Ultron and Vision would have never been born and Wanda and Pietro would stay normal people, but in this timeline they're already dead because of the Dormammu thing.
Overall: Earth is no more, but things in space are pretty nice, considering Thanos being dead and all-powerful Infinity Stones being gone. If there is some fundamental law of the universe regarding Stones being present in order for it to exist, then that universe collapses also.
There would be no racial tension or sexism. Come on!!!
I love that idea. I remember watching them send only Steve back and I was thinking how badly he could mess up destroy multiple entire universes yet there’s this wholesome happy ending? Hope they revisit that “mission” more someday
I swear marvel should pay you. as soon as this is over I’m binging some “WHAT IF…?”
Holy Sh!t that was awesome....Kilmonger is irredeemable..and that post credit scene of Hulk coming back for Kilmonger was epic asf....
Where can I see the post credit scene?
@@Enkeria post credit normally means end of the video🤯
its at 19:44
Plz do a part 2 and 3 and however many you need to finish this series. It was price. Best home made what if episode I’ve ever seen
Could you imagine Killmonger interacting with the punisher.
I love that you took TaChalla's SHADOW PHYSICS from the comics and added to this WHAT IF! Mad props for that Ryan! 💪🏿
I loved the first Black Panther. My favourite part was when Erik yelled "it's N'Jadakin' time!!" and proceeded to monger kills across the globe
I got so emotional during that part
If Killmonger survive, he would have killed Namor, there's a scene in the movie where in the ancestral plane he suggest Shuri kill Namor.
Namor would destroy him lmaoo, Shuri beat him with smarts and killmonger would just try to fight him thinking he could handle a hulk level superhero lmao
@@gucciguzmane Killmonger is more calculating and cunning than that, the Black Panther and What If proves this fact. How do you think he was able to infiltrate Wakanda expose TChalla father murdering his father, and challenge him for the mantle, which he won fair and square.
@@fortelewisandrew2426 Thats true but if we being honest killmonger and namor would’ve gotten along well lmao they have the same plan
@@gucciguzmane It would've been MCU's version Marvel's Supervillain Team Ups reminiscent of Doom and Namor in the 70's.
@@gucciguzmanenot true. Killmonger was confirmed to be an expert tactician in various (if not nearly all) military/combat strategy. This was explained in the first Black Panther when they brought up his profile and furthered when they explained his intention for burning the herbs and showing him explaining his strategy to takeover the world. Killmonger was far from some brute. Even in his combat, we saw him attack the vulnerable spots on T'Challa during the challenge to hinder him in the fight; again, proving him strategizing. With this considered, it is reasoned that if (and certainly, when) Killmonger discovered Namor's weakness, he would've exploited it; whether he thought of the idea for the oven or if one of his appointed-lieutenants would've
We definitely do need a part 2 to this story. That ending with World War Hulk gave me goosebumps 😳🔥
I knew I couldn't have been the only one thinking about the hulk once he mentioned banner and just threw him away. Imma need this part 2 ASAP!!
If I was writing black panther and I didn't have any oversight, I would have T'Challa delay killmongers attempt at the throne so he'd have a chance to get to know the people he planned on leading.
I believe Killmonger could still be alive. One glaring thing about when he meets with Suri in the ancestral plane was that his hair was a different style and longer. It couldn't be a continuity error. I believe T'Challa wouldn't let his cousin die and escape justice from the living (he didn't with Zemo either). With Wakanda's medical advancements I think it's possible they put him in an induced coma due to the severity of his injury or to buy time to figure out what to do with him. While in that coma, his soul would have access to the ancestral plane like what we saw in BP2.
love this, hope so,
Make this a series! As a fan of the channel I would love to see this. Mighty talented there Ryan.
screen crush just buffed killmonger to the most astronomical proportions
Only problem- killmonger destroyed the rest of the heart shaped herb. They wouldn’t have had any left for him, as proven in BP 2 when the only choice was to synthesize a new one
The point was that it was never taken out of his system
IN REALITY, A SUPER ADVANCED SOCIETY LIKE WAKANDA WOULD NEVER BE IN A SITUATION WHERE ALL OF THE HEART SHAPED HERB WAS DESTROYED. THEY WOULD HAVE A NUMBER OF FAIL SAFES IN OPERATION SO IT WOULD NEVER BE COMPLETELY ERADICATED. SPECIAL FORCE FIELD PROTECTED VAULTS ONLY SELECT FEW KNEW ABOUT WHICH KILLMONGER WOULD HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF.
it would be so easy to revive killmonger through the multiverse colliding during the lead up, or during secret wars. a universe where he was spared, became good, and replaced tachalla when he passed from his illness.
This what a really good What If!! You had my absolute undivided attention the entire time! More please 🤗
Love the content Screen Crush! Keep Striving!💛
I really like your commitment not to redeem Killmonger! Let's keep our villains villains. How about a "What If Thanos's dustings had been reversed?" That is to say, what would happen if the ones who turned to dust with Thanos's snap had instead been the ones to survive, and vice-versa? Would Endgame have played out differently if the other characters had been the ones trying to reverse the snap's effects? For one thing, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner wouldn't have been around to invent time travel, so even if Scott Lang's story had still worked out the same, who could he call on to make this time heist idea happen?
Still have Hank Pym and Steven Strange. Could introduce Reed Richards as well.
They have pym, Reed, Shuri, and Parker.
@@ked49 Okay, let's explore how they would have handled it differently. I imagine it would be a struggle for Pym, since he was still trying to get a better understanding of the Quantum Realm at that point. But Janet could probably help. None of them even knows of the existence of Reed Richards, though.
Awesome! I need more part of this what if story man!
This was really good. I REALLY liked this one. Good job, Ryan. 👍🏾
Great breakdown theory Ryan. I wish it'd had come to fruition. Killmonger can switch the odds in any battle, no lie.
EPIC story line. Thanks for sharing this What If version.
I believe he could've survived and when he was 'buried in the ocean' he was actually healed by the powers he had. Namor could've found him and he shows him the way to Wakanda! But by having him at the Ancestral plain they confirmed he's dead. 🤷♂️
Killmonger needs to come back to the MCU
Marvel should hire you as one of their directors or writers this pitch was awesome
Omg. This was the best thing about marvel heros to arise this year. Dark themes and plot twist are missed in these movies so much.
I think i like it more when you make up your own plots than when you break down the actual movies. Disney or DC needs to hire you
That is what I wanted from WHAT IF...more standalone super creative explorations. I didn't care for it ending up as an interrelated series. It started that way then ended up crossing over which drowned out the simple what ifs it started with.
And that’s exactly what my biggest problem with that show was. Hoping that they change that with season 2
Loved that!! Nice wee twist on your usual videos.
Keep up the great work, love the content!
this story is freaking awesome I'll be surely making a fan film in future
This was great! More what if please!
I think a Part 2 to this story is in order, hats off to you SC.
you did great, that was amazing!
I'm glad you ended with world war hulk because I was about to have an issue with it being that easy to kill him.
Did you play some crazy Marvel role playing game? Your What if story sounds like the result of rolling dice in a game. Tremendously creative story, thanks Ryan.
What if T'Challa failed to stop Zemo from killing himself in Civil War?
What is the punisher Kill Intelligentsia and zemo.
What if mbaku became the next black panther----story over---no dwarf mexican-- no men fighting women--- I hate this movie
We wouldn't get to see his sick dance moves
Please continue, this is awesome!
I liked this a lot, it is so well written, MORE OF THESE PLEASE!!! MORE WHAT IF...? THE POSSIBILITIES CAN REALLY BE ENDLESS
amazing what if and amazing editing! 👏
Nicely done!
one problem: wong would absolutely wipe the floor with killmonger, no doubt about it
You aren't Ryan Arey, no no! You're Ryan SCarey!!! LOL
That was good. You should make more of these. ✊🏾😎
Love the video !!
In the comics, hardened adamantium can only be manipulated by a vibranium chisel.
I miss this kind of video keep making them
If Killmonger had the Infinity Stones, then he would've taken over the Universe.
Now that is an interesting thought on how he would harness the power
Can we take a moment and appreciate at how good this guy is at putting his sponsors in the video
LETS SEE PT. 2!
Awesome What If theory...lot to unpack here!!
Wow ! Wish Disney had the balls to write such a good story like this 👍😁👍
Simply the greatest story ever told.
A part 2 of this would be awesome
19:44 Post credit scene 😂😂
Here are some other MCU What If scenarios you should do:
What if Malekith was not the main villain of Thor: The Dark World
What if Quicksilver survived in Avengers: Age of Ultron?
What if Vulture was not the main villain of Spider-Man: Homecoming?
What if Asgard was not destroyed?
What if Adam Warlock was in Avengers: Infinity War?
What if the Avengers were able to defeat Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War?
What if Mysterio did not expose Spider-Man's identity?
What if Sharon Carter was not the Power Broker?
What if Scarlet Witch was not the main villain of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness?
What if Jane Foster did not die of Cancer in Thor: Love and Thunder?
What if the real MODOK was in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
What if the High Evolutionary was not the main villain of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3?
What if Dar-Benn was not the main villain of The Marvels?
That was awesome!!
Wow! You really touched on something here I don't think I've seen so many comments for one video, LOL I usually read them but... You sure hit a nerve lol
I can’t wait until the MCU introduce his siblings,
Iron & Fish.
Great video. ✊🏿
You should totally do a 'What if Padme survived?" scenario
This. A thousand percent
Supposedly her dying is what allowed Anakin to live as Darth Vader.
Cause why else would she just suddenly die for no reason at the same time that Palatine is trying to keep Anakin alive.
This! Is! The best! Love this so much. Do more! Please!!
😱that was amazing! We need a whole channel of Ryan SC What ifs…
That was fantastic!! We need the sequel!!!
Really fun video!
If Namor is the avatar for Kukulkán in the MCU, he should be strong enough to kill a weaken Thor.
Damn that was a good “What if?” Marvel please take notes.
Make this a series!!
"Whew"... What a good what if story!!!
Bravo, Bravo, Bravo!!!
Me: I don’t get fanfics… they’re weird and lame
Also me: please, ScreenRant, just 4 more minutes of the story, please
The What If I want is what if Killmonger wasn't left behind in L.A. Could that be the 1 scenario where he doesn't go bad?
This is my favorite channel on CZcams But the ad reminded me of that South Patk episode when they were talking about Bullying 😅😅
I hope K.E.V.I.N. takes note of Pavel's work in writing all of this, they could really use such talent.
Mmm. Very very well thought out! I love the end with the odds completely against T'challa. But even better is the reveal of World War Hulk now that is a matchup I'd have to see.
No one was ready for the Creed moment 😂
Great Video
That was very entertaining. Should be a What If
Make more, for sure!
By the time this video ended all I was thinking about is whether Namor or Killmonger will end up getting the "Puny God," treatment
@screencrush is always awesome 😎
Your footage use of BP is on point.....Hey Auntie ;)
I love it Hollywood (Disney) needs to hire you as a screen writer bravo keep up the good work
No he has way more plot holes then even Disney can think of with their stories.
That sounds like a great what If story! I'd watch that.
Kid... Mind blowned! Well done sir.
Yo this guy needs his own what if comic story line coz that was amazing!!!!
What if T'Chaka didn't kill his own brother?
This is brilliant 👏
Sign me the heck up, I love this dark take, especially with the emergence of WWH.
Goddamnnn. This was a good one. 😅 World War Hulk being the inevitable end of Killmonger makes so much sense.
Need more what if videos!
Great story. I want one where Killmonger is redeemed though
A+ editing
We need a part 2 of this
I have several what if’s. First, what if the stories the red Guardian was telling in prison true, but it was old captain America with the grey hair. During the Cold War, it would have been easy for Steve Rogers to do some low key work behind the Iron Curtain. Also, what if the Red Guardian battled a different captain America? Like one from the falcon show, I like the idea of the red guardian thinking that captain America is Black.
Also I love Agent Coulson. I would love to see him pop up some where, and if he pops up I would love to see Melinda May. Omg, getting a little help from agents of shield somewhere along this new journey would be awesome!
Can you do a video about a what if everyone else was snapped away, essentially where the people who got snap did not disappear and everyone else did.
That will probably be what if season 2 or 3
Yep a 3rd season is happening
Check IMDb