Marvel WASTED the Snap - The MCU's Biggest Missed Opportunity, Explained

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    The marvel Cinematic Universe prides itself on its long form storytelling and connections. So isn't it weird that for five years, half of all life in the universe was GONE and no one mentions it? IN this video we break down all of the missed opportunities in the MCU.
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    The Snap was a complete shock, everything changed when Thanos snapped his fingers and wiped out 50% of all life in the universe. The villain won, the heroes failed, and trillions of lives…just vanished in an instance.
    For 5 years, there was no hope, no way to bring back the dusted.
    How can anyone move past that?
    The snap had devastating implications on every living being in the universe, it’s the sort of catastrophe that changes everything, forever.
    But now, looking at the aftermath of the snap - and the blip for that matter- it all feels inconsequential.
    In hindsight, this supposed universe altering event is a footnote on history, something the world has mostly moved on from pretty quickly.
    Which completely diminishes the impact of the snap.
    And this is a huge missed opportunity, Marvel should have done so much more with the snap and its implications on the world. The snap should have been a permanent change to the Marvel cinematic universe.
    It’s kinda insane to me that the MCU is basically refusing to explore the 5 years in between the snap and the blip.
    The snap has so much story potential, this is one of the most interesting time periods in the MCU. And not just on Earth, think about all the potential it had on countless civilizations in space.
    So we need to take a serious look at the snap, why it’s such a big missed opportunity, and the story direction the MCU should have taken with it.
    The snap is an event that happened everywhere, it affected everyone. We are talking about 50% of all life in the universe vanishing in a blink of an eye.
    Just here on Earth, the snap means devastation in every possible way. Billions of lives were affected and ruined. People tend to focus on all the trillions of lives that were dusted. But it’s more than just sentient beings, we are talking about animals too, trees, plants, microbes, and even viruses that are essential for the existence of life as we know.
    The world after the snap would feel the consequences for decades. The sense of normalcy and safety that people knew for so long is gone forever.
    Things will never go back to how they used to.
    We can’t even imagine how irreversible this event would change our way of life in every possible way.
    I mean think about all the cultural damage, all the people who died for real in the aftermath of the snap. Like passengers on planes who’s pilots vanished. We are talking here about countless planes falling from the sky, killing the passengers and the people on the ground.
    Or all the babies that fell on the floor because their moms disappeared. Ok, fuck, that one is way too dark. Yeah, let’s not talk about that.
    All of those people died for real, they didn’t not come back after the blip. And don’t even get me started about all of the people that probably died after trillions of lives suddenly reappeared.
    This is something that needed to be touched on.
    The world we see at the start of Endgame is a grim one.
    We see that people are in pain, unable to move forward with their lives. Drowning with grief and misery.
    There is garbade and abandoned cars piling in desolate streets. Overgrown buildings indicating the devastating cost of Thanos’ actions.
    Also this dog, now that I see this dog…. that’s sad, man. Poor poppy, waiting for its owner, no idea of what is happening or if it will ever see its owner again.
    But as depressing as this abandoned dog is, the movie doesn’t even come close to fully capturing the devastating scope the snap should have had on the world, and the rest of the universe.
    For starters, there doesn’t seem to be an everlasting change that happened in those 5 years since the snap.
    We don’t know much about that span of time. But World War 3 didn’t start, civilization didn’t collapse, and society didn’t devolve into a Mad Max wasteland.
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  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  Před rokem +22

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    • @austinashikh205
      @austinashikh205 Před rokem

      Please be a marvel or dc script writer

    • @aliwantizu
      @aliwantizu Před rokem +5

      Still hoping for a breakdown of DC's League of Super Pets hosted exclusively by Doug (who better to break down a movie featuring dogs than a dog?) It would be a "missed opportunity" to not have Doug give us a breakdown of that movie.

    • @scottking8189
      @scottking8189 Před rokem

      L Scam

    • @yesmenameisbob4269
      @yesmenameisbob4269 Před rokem

      You truly have the biggest brain out of us all

    • @jacquelinejones7787
      @jacquelinejones7787 Před rokem

      How dare you remind me of Jurassic Bark 😭
      Seriously though, love this take. Even if they still skipped over the five years, we should see the fallout more than mugs and ice cream shops.

  • @Noname-uo2oz
    @Noname-uo2oz Před rokem +139

    Imagine if we waited 5 years for Endgame just like in universe and the released movies with half the universe snapped in those 5 years. Would be crazy

    • @huntershaw8263
      @huntershaw8263 Před rokem +18

      That would've been phenomenal, and excruciating 😆

    • @noktin
      @noktin Před rokem +15

      LOL, that would've been interesting. They could at least have made a other movies in between, like introduce the Fantastic 4 or any other property.

    • @vice2versa
      @vice2versa Před rokem +5

      @@noktin they also could have done an Avengers: Aftermath movie where they kill Thanos like they did in endgame but you don't get the time heist, it's a completely different plot that doesn't involve Thanos and you just get a full movie that details everything that happened after the snap. that plus a few more solo movies that take place during the 5 year snap and then do an Endgame. that would have been awesome.

    • @_basedperry
      @_basedperry Před rokem +4

      But, guuuuuys we got the most important movie, Captain Marvel!

    • @squishy1794
      @squishy1794 Před rokem

      Technically, they could still do it if they wanted...

  • @michaelharris7157
    @michaelharris7157 Před rokem +313

    The snap would be a perfect time for ground level characters (superheroes and villains) to have their stories explored as one could only imagine what anarchy was going on then and whoever had the courage to stand up to this devastation. Phase 4 would’ve been a perfect time to explore this and any show in phase 5 doing this would make little sense as they’re moving to Kang and his significance on the multiverse.

    • @kjswensen63
      @kjswensen63 Před rokem +11

      They should've had a ronin show or even a special presentation of Scott lang in the quantum realm after the snap im sure he did see something down there but literally never says a word about it and they should make extended cuts of movies I think that's a huge mistake by marvel

    • @dburton1999
      @dburton1999 Před rokem +3

      Exactly!!! That would be the perfect time to build up new characters. We’d instantly love them

    • @eskitv1509
      @eskitv1509 Před rokem +14

      @@kjswensen63 Im pretty sure he says in endgame that it felt like only 5 minutes inside the quantum realm, which is why he was so confused that 5 years had passed.

    • @DamTheAbsolute
      @DamTheAbsolute Před rokem +9

      Y'all gotta stop making so much damn sense, it's making me sad about this phase and all the terrible movies/shows...

    • @kjswensen63
      @kjswensen63 Před rokem +6

      @@eskitv1509 he said five hours

  • @ADoc1980
    @ADoc1980 Před rokem +133

    If Andor has taught us anything, it's that there is a way to dive deep into things that have happened in the past of a shared universe and make it work. Fingers crossed that it's part of the plan to come back at some point, introduce new characters and tell some compelling stories during this time frame.

    • @pikeman777
      @pikeman777 Před rokem +3

      Doubt it. None of the current shows or movies ever mention the blip unless it is absolutely important to the plot. Otherwise it's like it never happened.

    • @robcannon
      @robcannon Před rokem +4

      I like that you brought up Andor as that is my thinking, too. I real deep dive into the time of the snap with the same gravitas that Andor has would be awesome.

    • @uriasbrian
      @uriasbrian Před rokem +3

      Yeah, and it would have precedence in Marvel, too. The 2015 Secret Wars storyline was followed by an 8-month time skip that slowly got explored in a handful of books that filled readers in on some of those details.

  • @gabrielmurray929
    @gabrielmurray929 Před rokem +26

    4:05. It has been confirmed that when Bruce did the Blip he explicitly made sure that anyone that would have died if they reappeared in a dangerous place was put somewhere safe.

  • @matthewmspace
    @matthewmspace Před rokem +50

    I’ve been saying this for so long. I want a Disney+ show set during the aftermath of the Snap set around normal civilians. Not the heroes, civilians. Like, you could do so much with that in terms of storytelling. No heroes v villains, but effectively do “The Leftovers” in the MCU.

    • @SharpDesign
      @SharpDesign Před rokem +2

      I'd especially like to see the effects of everyone coming back. What happens when people got remarried? Or the age difference in half a couple aging 5 years?

    • @kennycoulter5525
      @kennycoulter5525 Před rokem +3

      Like the old "Marvels" comic storylines.... everyday experiences through the eyes of regular people, but sometimes they have encounters or stories of superheroes and villains.

    • @mmazurr
      @mmazurr Před rokem +3

      Honestly, I'd be down for any marvel show or movie about "regular" people. I think the MCU kinda needs that. It could help the world of these stories feel a little bit more real.

  • @zambeazy
    @zambeazy Před rokem +484

    I think after the pandemic, the snap and it’s consequences felt a little too real for Disney to double down on a bunch of people suddenly dying and the world going through radical changes. I really wish there was more snap content but I think the timing was just too unfortunate :/

    • @LucarioShirona
      @LucarioShirona Před rokem +53

      Yeah... the timing really would hit too close to home in a negative way.

    • @rayfalls9919
      @rayfalls9919 Před rokem +19

      It's funny how the first comment I get is about what I wanted to comment

    • @_N4T
      @_N4T Před rokem +38

      That's probably why Falcon Winter Soldier fell flat, cos them fighting over vaccines would've too close. Imo they should have used real life to emotionally develop story, but I get it would be very controversial.

    • @mradelphi02
      @mradelphi02 Před rokem +19

      People IRL needed something to take their mind off what was happening in the world. Doubling down in the snap would have been a bad idea

    • @lordofmelon
      @lordofmelon Před rokem +4

      I wish they had done at least a tribute video connecting the real world events with movie scenes of anarchy kind of like a life imitates art and art imitates life idea, it would've kept things lighthearted while also acknowledging that the characters are going through the same things as we are but they persist and so can we, could've used the gravestone scene when ant man comes back to pay homage to all those we lost in the pandemic

  • @AJ-ur9lc
    @AJ-ur9lc Před rokem +30

    That shot of the helicopter spiraling into the side of a building during the snap made me think about all the people brought back 5 years later in mid air.

    • @AngelGuzman0925
      @AngelGuzman0925 Před rokem +7

      It’s said that Bruce snapped everyone back to safety, regardless of their situation they were in. Regardless, that only brings back those who snapped away to safety. Countless others who survived the snap but were unfortunate to be in a plane, car, boat without someone to pilot would mean many accidents.

  • @Me-not_you
    @Me-not_you Před rokem +11

    Imagine if phase 4 was all about the 5 years between infinity war and endgame, then phase 4 ended with endgame

  • @caseh4235
    @caseh4235 Před rokem +21

    If I'm remembering correctly, there was no mention of The Snap in Ms. Marvel. We have no clue if anyone of her friends or family disappeared for 5 years, or if Kamala herself blipped. Really was a missed opportunity to have fans theorycraft if the blip activated the X gene.

  • @mrsbrown1317
    @mrsbrown1317 Před rokem +18

    The snap was the perfect time to be relatable to viewers during a time when we were experiencing something similar to the snap

    • @rubenjackson840
      @rubenjackson840 Před rokem

      That's debatable.... Depends on what you go to the movies for.... me I like movies to escape reality

    • @vice2versa
      @vice2versa Před rokem

      @@rubenjackson840 the movies still have to be believable within the logic of that world. A movie that doesn't treat consequences as something that matter would break the immersion of the universe built up.

  • @koreywill6805
    @koreywill6805 Před rokem +29

    They dropped the ball, usually heroes always win and the villain dies, it would've been amazing to see the opposite for a change (and explore more of post-snap Thanos) so the audience can really relate because everyone fails at one point. Ryan, you are a creative genius!

  • @jazwilly85
    @jazwilly85 Před rokem +72

    Yeah, this was what I expected out of all the Phase 4 tv shows. Finally long form storytelling to flesh out the Snap.

  • @darkerknight7010
    @darkerknight7010 Před rokem +25

    The snap setting off the Multiverse Saga is so simple, makes so much sense, so of course they didn’t do it.

  • @krcmaine
    @krcmaine Před rokem +11

    You're not wrong about Mavel wasting the Snap.

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher Před rokem +102

    I find it really unrealistic that the world just somehow managed to move on from the snap after 5 years and not completely descend into anarchy

    • @Emiturbina
      @Emiturbina Před rokem +19

      It's realistic, it's incredibly how humanity can keep going on no matter what happens and how irreparable the damage can be

    • @neverlistentome
      @neverlistentome Před rokem +12

      Just imagine the looting, the financial disruption, hell the sheer number of highway speed car wrecks that would have happened. The roads would have been unpassable for a long time.

    • @ariki08
      @ariki08 Před rokem +13

      To be fair, a recent real life example is the pandemic. Most of the world has moved on from the pandemic (even though the pandemic hasn't ended)

    • @slightlyobeserat5781
      @slightlyobeserat5781 Před rokem +2

      I feel like we also forget about political leaders. imagine the most powerful person in a nation and about half of their party disappearing. that leaves so much room for radical change for the other parties

    • @izaakbecker4263
      @izaakbecker4263 Před rokem

      Would it have been “anarchy” or more localized governments or mafia structures?

  • @DRoyale1
    @DRoyale1 Před rokem +12

    After the snap, I thought that Sakovia would split into 2 different countries, with the other calling itself Latveria…and during Phase 4 we would get the rise of Doom, happening in the background…I also thought Namor would show up much sooner…his people would’ve suffered from the snap as well and he would come to the surface looking for answers…

    • @vice2versa
      @vice2versa Před rokem

      that would have made a lot more sense.

    • @matrex21
      @matrex21 Před rokem

      Namor coulda got snapped..

  • @JTStonne
    @JTStonne Před rokem +10

    Other than the emotional trauma, I don't think the world would have stayed that desolate for 5 years.

    • @sleinadb
      @sleinadb Před rokem +1

      I agree. I think all the garbage and abandoned look they went for in Endgame was off.

  • @animefreak1992
    @animefreak1992 Před rokem +6

    Its funny you brought this up. Since Endgame, I had a concept for a short film or mini series on this exact topic. One focusing on a religious person, one on someone who was already hopeless and depressed and someone who accepts things, but everyone is suddenly brought back and dealing with the adjustment

  • @alexallen9640
    @alexallen9640 Před rokem +24

    Interesting perspective, I agreed that the snap became less serious when seeing it become a name of a ice cream place. Also I liked the theory of the snap being the cause of x gene. 🙂👍

  • @francisskierski8505
    @francisskierski8505 Před rokem +8

    If you remember Captain Marvel was alive after the snap they could go into her story a little bit more what she did during the snap

  • @tonyd9312
    @tonyd9312 Před rokem +8

    They're literally exploring the years between the snaps with each movie after that. Every movie after it had a consequence of the snap, including the Disney+ shows Like Falcon and Winter Soldier all the way up to the most recent Wakanda Forever.

    • @khandimahn9687
      @khandimahn9687 Před rokem

      But... not really. Endgame is the only time we really got a look. But after that, yes, the years between the Snap and the Blip are brought up, but they're given little more than lip service. We know far more about the time since the Blip, than before.
      I haven't seen Wakanda Forever yet, so maybe it delves deeper into that time, but if it does then it's an exception.

    • @tonyd9312
      @tonyd9312 Před rokem +2

      @@khandimahn9687
      Falcon and Winter Soldier was literally all about the consequences of the Blip/snap.
      Wandavision was the result of Wanda dealing with the snap and losing The Vision,
      Black Widow dealt with What happened with Black Widow in between the snap
      Spiderman addressed some of the consequences of the snap and what happened when people/students suddenly reappeared the same age they were when they were snapped.
      Hawkeve was all about fixing what he did when he became Ronen after losing his family to the snap.
      The Loki series is dealing with the consequences of the Avengers messing with time to fix what happened after the snap, causing the OG Loki to be pruned leading to the Kang/Antman movies which will touch on it even more.
      Secret wars will be about what was happening during the snap and how the Skrulls came and infiltrated earth. SWORD series will address the snap.
      How much more do they have to do, to move on from it. Even Guardians of the Galaxy will touch on the relationships after the snap. Because Rocket keeps losing everybody. Gamora doesn't have the same relationship she used to have with the team.
      Some people need everything spelled out and every connection spoon fed to them.

  • @rokness-monsta2975
    @rokness-monsta2975 Před rokem +6

    This is one of the best videos you’ve ever done if not THE BEST! I totally agree. With you five years is enough to put several movies centered in that time.

  • @freeamericanthinker558
    @freeamericanthinker558 Před rokem +6

    Thank you! Someone said it! The blip and the celestial sticking out of the earth is some of biggest cosmic horror in mcu history.

  • @Hamilwhovian
    @Hamilwhovian Před rokem +3

    "Street level" heroes could've been the perfect way to explore the snap. Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Misty Night, Cloak and Dagger... they could've great shows within those 5 years. Maybe Daredevil born again will touch on that, but at this point I'm not sure if they'll ever explore it.

  • @xeliroth
    @xeliroth Před rokem +4

    I'd feel that the snap would be a perfect time to introduce some street level heroes and villains, Like DD and Kingpin. I mean, the world should be in chaos after-snap, so street villains will definitely spawns up taking their chances which should be countered by street level heroes

  • @adammanzor4925
    @adammanzor4925 Před rokem +13

    I wonder if the pandemic affected how the MCU dealt with the snap.

    • @khandimahn9687
      @khandimahn9687 Před rokem +3

      It's really hard to say. The MCU has a roadmap worked out years in advance. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to downplay some things, even if nothing more than some dialogue changes.

    • @3boodae749
      @3boodae749 Před rokem +2

      I think it did. Wasn't there meant to be a subplot on Falcon and Winter Soldier about a global pandemic spreading during that 5 year period? But then they removed most references to it in post because of the real pandemic? Disney is about escapism and perhaps the Decimation too closely mirrored real life.

  • @iankane1733
    @iankane1733 Před rokem +5

    I don’t usually comment, but this critique makes so much sense. Great job Ryan and Doug!

  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  Před rokem +7

    What stories would you like to see during the snap?

    • @b1ztake
      @b1ztake Před rokem +3

      How kingpin got out of prison and became feared by Hawkeye

    • @williamshaw5716
      @williamshaw5716 Před rokem +10

      How established titles is a scam

    • @amandaburns8247
      @amandaburns8247 Před rokem

      Property law, inheritance, fraud, stock market crash and perhaps runs on banks? Half of all loans not paid back or what? Real estate stuff, etc. people would be blipping back to run down properties, maybe? If you were snapped and then snapped back, everything you had was gone. How do you feed that many people?

  • @jordanpearson1910
    @jordanpearson1910 Před rokem

    Fantastic video I would really love to see them go down this route with a series 🤞🏻

  • @Antman2604
    @Antman2604 Před rokem +5

    I applaud your commentary on this topic. It truly would have been wonderful to explore a post-snap world and universe for the creation of heros and villians.

  • @phreshmark
    @phreshmark Před rokem +36

    They should have had movies within the span of the snap, showing people grief and how they coped with the event. It would have tied more emotion and made the finale of endgame that much sweeter (edit: I commented before watching)

    • @chrisdudley3137
      @chrisdudley3137 Před rokem +1

      I think it should be done as specials, 1 hour pieces on different sections of the snap

    • @bashengatheblackmanta7003
      @bashengatheblackmanta7003 Před rokem

      They could have made a special presentation taking place within the 5 year gap or have wankanda forever take place within the timeskip

  • @KNIGHTDRAGON87
    @KNIGHTDRAGON87 Před rokem +7

    I absolutely agree. There has to be huge consequences for bringing all those people back.

  • @SFGDCORP
    @SFGDCORP Před rokem

    You're one of my favorite Journalists! 💪🏿

  • @jakekayden4061
    @jakekayden4061 Před rokem +2

    Biggest complaint about BP2 is that they didnt mention that Tchalla and many others had already died before

    • @lydiamoon5235
      @lydiamoon5235 Před rokem +2

      The original script was supposed to explore T'Challa and his feelings about the 5 years he lost, but, well, you know.

    • @vice2versa
      @vice2versa Před rokem

      @@lydiamoon5235 yeah cause Marvel always has to pick the dumb option when it comes to their stories.

    • @lydiamoon5235
      @lydiamoon5235 Před rokem +1

      @@vice2versa Sometimes they do. For Black Panther, they chose the best option for them and the cast (and for the schedule of future MCU offerings) they had available under difficult circumstances.

  • @ethanwentzlaff
    @ethanwentzlaff Před rokem

    Your videos are always fantastic

  • @khanktinga
    @khanktinga Před rokem +2

    As for people returning in the Blip, I think it was explained in interviews with the Russos that Hulk was able to ensure that returning people wouldn't die because of where they returned. That is, people that vanished while in aircraft were Blipped back to the ground, while people not in any immediate danger from where they were and would come back just returned exactly where they left. But as for people that died in the immediate aftermath of the snap from accidents and other such situations (and in the weeks and months afterwards from food shortages and the like), I think it is fair to say that they weren't returned with Hulk's snap.

    • @ItsFireTiger
      @ItsFireTiger Před rokem +1

      Yeah those many Vehicles and Plane crashes
      Like you're on your way to Paris and the pilots get dusted 😳

  • @jermainemcclain5365
    @jermainemcclain5365 Před rokem +6

    I totally agree I been saying the snap shoulda set up all the stories of stage 4. It makes no sense to act like it was just a thing that happened.

  • @adelineforde9773
    @adelineforde9773 Před rokem +1

    I agree with this so much! I am so glad someone finally said something about it.

  • @hahajenkins
    @hahajenkins Před rokem +2

    Dude, concepts like these are why i get high to his vids for real

  • @darkerknight7010
    @darkerknight7010 Před rokem +1

    All we really have are the scene in WandaVision when Monica comes back. And one in Hawkeye.

  • @leeswift7883
    @leeswift7883 Před rokem +3

    Reading about Ryan Coogler's original script for Wakanda Forever seems like it would've went further into the ramifications and emotions post snap more than most of the Phase 4 content

    • @poetic2def
      @poetic2def Před rokem

      He kind of went into it a bit but tbh they put way too much of a burden on Coogler to tell multiple stories in one movie Dr Strange and all these other movies never addressed a single moment

  • @cesarmerejo7411
    @cesarmerejo7411 Před rokem

    Excelent points, You are absolutely RIGHT.

  • @allanj917
    @allanj917 Před rokem

    Great points....dang...very good thought process

  • @TheQuincyEdwards
    @TheQuincyEdwards Před rokem

    YES! Great video!

  • @MarechalYannis
    @MarechalYannis Před rokem

    Thanks for that truely interesting topic.

  • @kjbeast677
    @kjbeast677 Před rokem +2

    I didn’t really mind Far from home tackling the repercussions of the snap in a somewhat comedic take because teenagers were at the forefront of that movie, but as for the other projects of Phase 4, yeah they shoulda handled the repercussions of the snap way better
    A visual explanation for what happened in between that five year time skip (like a Disney+ show) woulda been great

  • @jeromecha1
    @jeromecha1 Před rokem +6

    I would definitely watch this show! Exploring what happened in those five years has been something missing from Disney. Here’s hoping!!!

  • @serena9165
    @serena9165 Před rokem +10

    This. Since the beginning of phase 4, anytime there was scenes or talk of the snap or blip, got my attention right away. My hope for phase 4 was yes introduction of the multiverse with entries like Wandavision, Loki, Spiderman, Dr Strange, etc. but also more stories and focused on the 5 year time period between The Snap and The Blip. Episodes that showed what happened to life before and after Infinity War and Endgame on Earth like in Wandavision, Hawkeye, Falcon and the Winter Soldier always became favorites of mine because I wanted to know more of how life went with people went after Thanos had the snap and when Tony brought everyone back. Even stories of what happened beyond Earth in the universe is also so huge to know since they were also affected. The people and beings who rose up after the Avengers failed. The settling of Asgards on Earth. Everyone questioning the Avengers. What was it like for Thor since he didn't go for the head and how was he even welcomed back to his people after failing them. Wakanda during the 5 years. Tony and Pepper life before and after Morgan was born. Hawkeye falling into darkness. All this and so many many more stories and also why The Avengers were allowed to travel back in time and mess with history as it was brought up in Loki on his trial with the TVA and even Steve's travels returning the Infinity Stones. All this and many many more stories because of the snaps could be some of the best stories told if Marvel went on and explored these times. I have enjoyed Phase 4 for what it is so far, but hopefully we get some of these stories in some way in Armor Wars, Secret Invasion, Daredevil, and maybe even some new announcements hopefully one day.

  • @entropysmultiverse4120
    @entropysmultiverse4120 Před rokem +3

    They didn’t forget quickly
    It was 5 years
    We get over things in less than a month
    They were still grieving

  • @gabbodelaparrawrites
    @gabbodelaparrawrites Před rokem

    A truly interesting concept to explore!

  • @jamaalmcphee9332
    @jamaalmcphee9332 Před rokem

    Very good points made here.

  • @Starwarslegorob
    @Starwarslegorob Před rokem +5

    Absolutely that could’ve brought upon incredible story lines & villains! What happened in those five years I am intrigued

    • @ItsFireTiger
      @ItsFireTiger Před rokem

      Well Kingpin did rise back up to power during the Blip

  • @jmattos
    @jmattos Před rokem +2

    Ive been saying this foro YEARS!!!! They need a "blip" series so badly.

  • @tcb8248
    @tcb8248 Před 7 měsíci +1

    We need a “The Clone Wars” like animated series to cover this time period. We could have Tony & Cap & others back w different voice actors, flesh out the world, introduce some cults (Children of Thanos sounds baller)

  • @khanktinga
    @khanktinga Před rokem +9

    I think the main reason they didn't get to explore that 5 year period in detail was the logistics of movie releases. Ant Man and the Wasp was next to be released, and we saw that it was set right before the snap. Then came Captain Marvel, set in the 90's. Then came Endgame. There simply wasn't anything in between Infinity War and Endgame to use to explore that time at all. Thus, it will only be able to be done through flashbacks and consequences. But I do agree that there should have been more of those flashbacks and consequences integrated into the Phase 4 stories.

    • @khandimahn9687
      @khandimahn9687 Před rokem +2

      Exactly. The MCU has a roadmap worked out years in advance. Sure, there are changes, but overall each Phase has followed the plan. At the time the Infinity Saga was planned out, Disney+ didn't exist. Now that it does, and has proven to be a success, maybe they consider looking back a 'the lost years'.

    • @elgaith7626
      @elgaith7626 Před rokem +1

      That, and they wanted to keep the snap a secret pre-Infinity War. If all the movies being produced before Infinity War was released had showed extensive post-snap devastation, there would have been no way to keep that under wraps, not just from the actors, but the production designers, VFX crews, etc. As Dr. Strange would say, there was only one way.

    • @lomiification
      @lomiification Před rokem

      If they had put a movie in between, and it got delayed, they'd have to delay end game until it releases, along with everything that happens after the snap is fixed.
      The more movies in between, the tighter the project timelines have to be not impact other movies.

  • @iam.thuglife
    @iam.thuglife Před 9 měsíci

    Brilliant video..!!!!

  • @anthonycofrancesco7137

    DUDE! The Leftovers was amazing, great reference!

  • @themanagement1535
    @themanagement1535 Před rokem

    I find your points compelling. Pop Culture Detective did a recent piece on heroes as defenders of the status quo that intersects with your thesis nicely.

  • @Phredd2k1
    @Phredd2k1 Před rokem +2

    Star Wars has taught us that they will be cranking out Marvel media 50 years from now. They will eventually cover this time period and every other scenario.

  • @Jay_18697
    @Jay_18697 Před rokem +5

    Alternative timeline: Thor is Buff and serious, and isn’t a laughing stock like he is in the main timeline. He also is a emotional, but Grieving, king. And after the Avenger’s ask him for help he of course says yes wanting to help undo the damage done by thanos. But first he prepares him and his army for battle. Then out of nowhere Ghost rider appears through a portal to aid the avengers and kill thanos in the final battle during endgame. Would’ve liked it better this way Tbh.

    • @sundancevandezande57
      @sundancevandezande57 Před rokem

      Because most of us DONT GIVE A FUCK about what he was doing. HELL we know what he was doing. Seeking revenge like he did in the comics.

    • @Jay_18697
      @Jay_18697 Před rokem +1

      @@sundancevandezande57 well I do. Sheesh

    • @poetic2def
      @poetic2def Před rokem +1

      @@Jay_18697 I agree especially seeing how Hawkeye got involved with Kingpin

    • @sundancevandezande57
      @sundancevandezande57 Před rokem

      @@Jay_18697 They showed us what he was doing. Lmao. He was ronin and killing criminals. Not really much they need to tell.

    • @Jay_18697
      @Jay_18697 Před rokem

      @@sundancevandezande57 Know what? I change my mind. You were right

  • @CorderoStephens
    @CorderoStephens Před rokem +3

    Great video Ryan and team you bring up some amazing points! Imagine If Marvel set the entire phase 4 during snap, slowly bring us up to date in Phase 5.

  • @sethrobertbrickler7011
    @sethrobertbrickler7011 Před rokem +3

    They probably will do something like that as far as people looking at the avengers or earth sideways or like silver surfer finding all this great “food” for galactus. I agree it would have been a great inciting incident to start off the multiverse saga but it kinda did with Loki but I get what you mean. Cool video!

  • @BazDerd
    @BazDerd Před rokem

    Absolutely!!! 1000% YOU are so right. I was thinking this too.

  • @cashmoneychanel1209
    @cashmoneychanel1209 Před rokem +8

    Definitely should be much more villains after the snap

    • @p.c.v.m9999
      @p.c.v.m9999 Před rokem

      Not only just about snap and everyone who came back after the snap how di people after losing 5 years of their lifes taken away from them while everyone else grew up with out them or was just like they was what if people who was snap lost family members or great friends they never got chance to say goodbye to what if lost there place and are now homeless because of what happened

    • @p.c.v.m9999
      @p.c.v.m9999 Před rokem

      Not only there would people become villains during the snap but after snap them not expecting they lost 5 years of their life they can't get back or grew from

  • @antonioricci6907
    @antonioricci6907 Před rokem

    Totally agree, I wonder this a lot of time

  • @briannicasio9445
    @briannicasio9445 Před rokem +2

    6:44 “i guess we’ll find out in Wakanda Forever” lol when was this recorded ? 😅

  • @BLAZE084
    @BLAZE084 Před rokem +1

    The events involving infinity stones were meant to happen as mentioned in Loki’s trial at the TVA from the first episode so no, their use cannot create alternate timelines however through the actions of a nexus being or variant they can indirectly trigger a branching in the timeline. In my opinion therein lies the difference.

  • @halfblackcanadian
    @halfblackcanadian Před rokem +3

    I just assume that the non-returning Avengers needed a definitive "win" for the end of their saga. Going into all the reasons their victory wasn't enough takes away from their legacy (for viewers, mostly). I agree, though, that there are all kinds of interesting ramifications and story directions that could have been more grounded in the Snap itself. As much as I'm ready for Kang, a whole phase of fallout-centric content would have been amazing. Add all of the timeline stuff after.

  • @MattR759
    @MattR759 Před rokem

    Ryan, this video is genius!

  • @damiantanco9531
    @damiantanco9531 Před rokem

    I want to see all of this!

  • @kjbeast677
    @kjbeast677 Před rokem +1

    The way I woulda been tuned in to watch episodes of a show about The Blip and everything set within that 5 year time period every week more than any of the other Disney+ Marvel shows

  • @nTrylo
    @nTrylo Před rokem +2

    imagine a baby in a crib inside a locked house whose mother or both parents happened to be snapped out of existence. they'd just starve to death. dark af.

  • @cwwwj
    @cwwwj Před rokem +2

    Treated as a joke in Love & Thunder was my last straw. That’s when I knew Phase 4 was bad. Not every movie needed to be a downer but let’s at least process some feelings. I think Covid made them shy about addressing existential nightmares… when it should’ve done the opposite.

  • @thetotaldramaking5427

    As soon as you said about using technology I immediately thought of Reed Richards and 838, I agree that they should.

  • @gabrielmurray929
    @gabrielmurray929 Před rokem +1

    I heard Secret Invasion might explore it but agreed surprisingly under utilized.

  • @mrjack8849
    @mrjack8849 Před rokem +5

    I really thought the snap was going to be the cause of the mutant race, like it altered their DNA as Ryan states. I know all of the rights issues with X-Men and Fantastic 4 is just not settled so maybe it will be explained in those future movies.

  • @jorgecarbajal8076
    @jorgecarbajal8076 Před rokem

    5:34 I actually noticed that while recently watching Thor: Love and Thunder. Anyway, great job explaining why you feel like the MCU hasn’t properly used the Blip to tell more stories.

  • @katesullivan4707
    @katesullivan4707 Před rokem +8

    Wakanda Forever brought this up for me again because Nakia gives the perfect opportunity for a story during the Snap. She was raising a kid who will probably be pretty important and it would be a closed universe sort of story. But yeah, the whole thing would have been a easy x gene event. I mean they could still do that but that is still post the first Snap.
    I do wonder though that Scott may be the catylst for a bad guy to start his anti Avenger mission. He is famous and beloved right now but he might just bring Kang to the regular world. Someone is going to take Zemo's message to the extreme and people will listen.

  • @ambitaquinta
    @ambitaquinta Před rokem

    THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL!!!

  • @samclontsii3548
    @samclontsii3548 Před rokem +1

    Always said there needs to be a Snapped show…it could explore so much, doesn’t even have to be around heroes…

  • @beebsdotcom
    @beebsdotcom Před rokem +7

    There was 4 snaps. Thanos 1 & 2, Hulk & Tony. Just saying.... Keep up the great work Ryan. Much luv 4 ya

    • @drewrobinson5069
      @drewrobinson5069 Před rokem

      are you counting the Thanos snapping without the stones?

    • @alexmejuto1977
      @alexmejuto1977 Před rokem

      @@drewrobinson5069 Thanos used the stones to destroy the stones remember.

    • @drewrobinson5069
      @drewrobinson5069 Před rokem

      @@alexmejuto1977 i do remember, i just didn't take that as he snapped again, but he did say it almost killed him

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 Před rokem

    Good point.🤔

  • @thyfx659
    @thyfx659 Před rokem +1

    if a person reappeared after the blip, and another person was standing in the specific place they were blipped at, would they merge with the person standing there?

  • @yeuxdal
    @yeuxdal Před rokem +1

    I have to think lots of the Snap-related resentment will be played up in the Thunderbirds chapter

  • @Anchorheart401
    @Anchorheart401 Před rokem

    Fun fact related to the Leftovers shout out. The actor Carrie Coon used in the clip from that show, also played Proxima Midnight. 👍 I'm sure it was intentional so high five (hiv?🤔) to the editor on that one.

  • @bazylio1987
    @bazylio1987 Před rokem +1

    Well Secret Invasion (at least a part of it) is set to explore the Blip period

  • @acolytesounds
    @acolytesounds Před rokem

    Some notable examples of this type of arc working in games to provide great storytelling are Final Fantasy 6 (The World is completely destroyed and changed because the Heroes were unable to stop Kefka), Legend of Zelda (Link to the Past) Link is telephoned to the World of Ruin, and Crono Trigger (emergence of Lavos) heroes must change the past to save the future. I'm sure there are way more examples but these 3 are personally some of my favorite tales. Going through a world that utterly crushed by the forces of evil and taking it back or fixing it piece by piece. Would've loved to see some MCU stories told during the 5 year snap gap.

  • @Woozydrinksbeer
    @Woozydrinksbeer Před rokem +3

    They easily could’ve Introduced the thunder bolts, moonknight, daredevil Punisher etc in the snap and built them up smh

  • @darthvulture
    @darthvulture Před rokem

    i agree, such a good potential for even just a mini series called "post-snap" or something that could've explored earth and other places during this time period.

  • @dmh11185
    @dmh11185 Před rokem

    Well done.

  • @BGB_Mil
    @BGB_Mil Před rokem

    I completely agree but also it's been soo long for the build up it did need a strong ending which it did. Unfortunately now they're trying to pick right back up by placing the stakes at the same level without any of the build up

  • @amf0078
    @amf0078 Před rokem +2

    I feel we have got a lot from little bits here and there about the snap in the shows and movies.

  • @pablojams5152
    @pablojams5152 Před rokem +1

    I think a lot of it has to do with the timing of the movie and the pandemic, of course but also that having a story set during that time would cost a lot of money to bring back the relevant actors to play the characters during that time. And Disney is more about moving forward, than spending the money to tell that story.

  • @savesnuffles1015
    @savesnuffles1015 Před rokem +2

    Mayhaps instead of creating heroes, they are Born Again

  • @JROtoons
    @JROtoons Před rokem

    Reminds me of the impact the battle of Yavin had on empire strikes back, they wouldn't shut up about it.

  • @sethsturdivant306
    @sethsturdivant306 Před rokem

    Bro you are literally speaking my mind

  • @lordofmelon
    @lordofmelon Před rokem +1

    I think they could have at least done a tribute video connecting the real world events with movie scenes of anarchy kind of like a life imitates art and art imitates life idea, it would've kept things lighthearted while also acknowledging that the characters are going through the same things as we are but they persist and so can we, could've used the gravestone scene when ant man comes back to pay homage to all those we lost in the pandemic as well.

  • @DALEHHORSTUDIOS
    @DALEHHORSTUDIOS Před rokem +1

    6:45 Wait.. when did you make this video? And why are you uploading it just now?

  • @SuperBryant
    @SuperBryant Před rokem

    Having an 'um actually' moment, but the stones were used 4 times together. The first snap, when thanos used the stones to destroy the stones, the un-snap by Hulk and the final snap by Tony.