Josh Mosiman Shares HONEST Thoughts on the Austrian Dirtbikes...
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2024
- Josh Mosiman is one of the key media test riders in the sport and you can find him on camera and on the bike over at the MXA CZcams Channel. Josh had a short pro career before turning his attention to the media side of the sport and has been going from strength to strength ever since! We talk 2024 bikes, Glen Helen, Technique and much more in this awesome episode of the podcast.
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The old Gas Gas still exist as Rieju, still made in Spain.
I believe he means the old generation of gas gas ie 21-23
Have the rieju mr300 pro, some wepon for handy money!
Rieju is the old GasGas. They bought all the inventory, tooling, factory. KTM just wanted the name
Have the mr300pro rieju, some wepon for small outlay
The 3 Austrian brands have came a long way, but still need an entry-level price point. Especially for the Gas Gas.
At the moment in New Zealand,you can get a brand new old stock 2022 KXF450 (0 hours) for $9995
Thats a deal. New Zealand ebay is called trademe
yes for gasgas, most definately not for KTM or husky. (i’d enjoy a nicer price myself i’m not that dumb) but i gotta say with the parts stock on KTMs and Husky’s there’s absolutely no reason for the brand to charge entry lvl prices
GasGas sucks now. Braketec is trash and the base model wheels are crap too. KTM is the better buy now, they cheaped out on the components and raised the price with GG.
Believe it or not, exporting bikes from Austria is more expensive than Japan.🤙
Don’t forget improved reliability.
4th KTM in a row... have always been very satisfied.
Josh has a wealth of knowledge and experience
Gypsy tales , you’re doing great . Making Australia proud ❤
Interesting discussion
Surprise surprise, this short packed some great insight that I’d guess many pros aren’t aware of.
These frames are a mystery to me. First time that I heard that the KTM brands weren’t on the same frames for a period and how each bike had a different feel.
I have a 2021 gasgas and it is the shit. I just got a chance to ride the 2024.5 ktm450 and it's phenomenal, way closer to the flex of the old frame. 140 hours on mine now, one top end at 100 and it's still going strong 💪
I loved my 22.5 Husky 450, after 12 hrs chassis was fine for me🤙🏁
Good info
When Josh talks bikes… we listen 💯
Grabbed a year end sale 23’ MC 450 for $8k out the door. So glad I did, especially as a “novice” rider; the softer frame and what not is a help. Also it’s mostly trail ridden here in AZ, occasional track days, and will be at the Dunes next year. For AZ rocky trails, the softer feel is nice. Still need to figure something out with my rear suspension tho, I’m 6’2” 180(without gear), and feel like I need a spring change.
Steal of a price and it was before we “knew” how the new frames would be.
My air forks took like over 10 hrs to break in, but I don't jump all the jumps.
Dude. Factory Gypsy Tales Reiju. We gotta do it.
Always a YZ guy but the EXC300 EFI is insane. Clutch and brakes best of anything.
Rieju are a good cheap alternative, know a few who have gone that direction as not happy with orange bike reliability and high cost these days
Did they fixed the broken frames problem, or not yet?
Years ago taking a marketing class reading magazine, TV, newspaper and Internet advertising.. for anything and everything.. food, beverages, clothing, hotels,cars, airlines, medicine.. remember watching an ad were a laundry detergent brand trashed another, saying basically one was good the other didn't work and it was garbage..both owned by Proctor and Gamble..I live in Baja and if I had a dollar for every Husky or KTM LCD screen that failed or ECU malfunction I be living in Malibu!!
Whats the name of this pro circuit linkage he’s talking about? I need that part.
As an old guy that's not that fast anymore it took until about 16hrs before the thing felt broken in.
Yep. 10-20 hrs minimum depending on skill. Makes a huge difference, especially if you don't ditch the air forks. Massive difference once I got over 20 hrs.
@@XecuTionNxx yeah I ditched 'em after. Once I could tell the frame was flexing and more compliant I really started to notice things I didn't like about the suspension and had the KYB inserts put in, the shock too.
@shmirdonkin I did the spring conversion on my 18 150sx. Game changer, for sure. My 22 350sxf is still on air. Definitely improved over the 18. Still need to ride a new frame bike.
Considering we change so much on our bikes regardless, buy the color you like, or where you get the best service/support. I like Yamahas and if im slower then a ktm, its me not the bike.
What about all the ktm two strokes blowing up with kymco cylinders 😂
170hrs on my '22 250xc with kymco cyl. Original top end 🤷♂️. I change oil frequently, and have only ever used motorex 2t oil fwiw
Low throttle opening riding like enduro?
The new chassis old chassis thing is ridiculous. I put 120 hours on a 18 husky 450, then 50 hours on a 22 gas gas 250, and now a 23 250sxf and it’s the best motocross bike I’ve ever rode. I’m also a vet and very mid pack. Only the pros seem to complain about the 23’ newer KTMs, us normal vet riders love ‘em.
Can anyone explain to me what’s wrong with brake tec brakes? They feel amazing. How do they compare to Brembo?
I‘m 193cm, no idea how tall this is in Hamburger measurement, sorry America (its tall). Came from a 21 ktm to a 22 husky and it felt way better with my long legs. Yes it‘s smaller in height but i can finally grip the bike! Couldnt do that ob the 21 ktm.
about 6'4
Gas Gas went backward on the braking system by opting to ax the Brembo stuff for the Brake Tec junk.
Why? I’m truly curious. I’ve got a 2024 TE300 with the brake tec brakes and clutch and they feel amazing. I’ve done 60 mile rides and never experienced brake fade or and reduction in feel. Are Brembo really that good?
The best value to me seems like a new Kawasaki, followed by Yamaha.
But I would buy a used Suzuki if I could get a steal on it as well like a Fairly new RMZ250 for $4500 😊
No one wants a slowzuki pal
Nobody wants a bike without an E start
Kawis depreciate super quick. They're worthless on the used market, so if you want a clean low hour bike, buy a used Kawi, if you're buying new, buy Yamaha or Austrian.
@stevesmith756 I would prefer E start, but I would buy a used Suzuki if it was priced low enough, like $1000 cheaper than I could find a similar year Kawasaki or Yamaha for example
@OtisFlint Yeah I would most likely buy a used Kawasaki if I was looking for bike,
5:20 What are they bleeping about pro circuit? Can anybody read lips? Interesting that whatever he said had to be muted out. Looks like he says “all of them” why would that be muted? 5:41 then they chop out another part later. Is he giving out the secrets or something?
I think it’s just an audio glitch
“You got change” you got to move forward” you here that Suzuki?!?!
But there’s also don’t fix it if it ain’t broken
@@justinplace3988 oh it’s far behind now. If you hang on that idea we’d still be riding 7 inches of suspension no hydro clutch no e start. Can’t live in the Stone Age
Yet people are still buying them for their low price. Suzuki saves millions of dollars every year by not doing R&D and retooling. It's really important to remember that their company very nearly went under in 2009 and they are just now getting their finances in order.
It's sad the Japanese brands don't even offer legit enduro bikes.
These bikes are all so close it's not comparable. Put Jett on a Vespa 450 and he'd still win. It's rider skill.
KTM is the KING of offroad. They have won the most supercross & motocross championships out of any manufacturer in the last 20 years. and have dominated enduro 25 years in a row. DOMINANT 🍊💯
KTM MX2 World Championships: 2003 2004 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2022 2023 🔥🍊💯
KTM MXGP World Championships: 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2017 2018 2021 2023 🔥🍊💯
KTM Supercross 450 Championships: 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2021 🔥🍊💯
KTM Has won an incredible 64 out of 81 Motos this year at loretta lynns. Pure DOMINATION. this once again proves that KTM is the best Motocross & Enduro manufacturer on the planet. KINGS 🔥👑🍊🧡💯
Don’t ever think japanese brands are even comparable again 🤦♂️🫵😂
Imagine being so good.... so sharp that the differences between the bikes are huge and glaring. Like just totally different tools. I can't tell as much on dirt bikes model year to model year... but I know that feeling from another sport I was professional at. And yeah. I was aware 99% people wouldn't get any convo I would have about the difference in two similar models... but that's why these guys get so excited when they get to talk to someone else who does care and understand the difference. This isn't a sales video. This is a video for truly nerdy individuals and racers that are heavily indentured riders
Thank God we're not forced to choose any of them overpriced under performing machines. Red or blue for me.
KTM laid off 300 austrian workers at the start of this year in favor of doing both R&D and production in India and China. Still $10000+ bikes. They only care about $$$$$. Won't get any from me.
Yama dog all day. 💪😎🤙
Yama slug *
All that engine testing that Cairoli did , ktm dropped the ball. Tony’s 350’s ended up being somewhere close to 400cc’s. One of the 3 ktm brands should run that motor rather than 450 , I’d buy one. 350 not quite enough
It’s cool KTM saved brands really lame they are all just different colored clones changing a couple parts doesn’t really effect anything and if you buy either of the other two you are buying a lesser version of a KTM. Also having 3 race teams really be one ruins parody of the sport.
Owned by bajaj , partnered with cf moto and now moving the remaining bit of the company to China is the final nail on their coffin
Bro, better do a lap with me for my 👍
The problem with keeping anything in production is you can't cannibalize the "machines that make the machines" which are themselves built with cannibalized machines.
Sometimes I feel like this sport has NO money. It's weird that they aren't breaking in components at some facility if that's a problem, it makes me think they just don't have the funds? Then I argue with NBC about their stream quality. I still hold out hope that EVs, if the industry doesn't fight them, will bring a TON of new eyes and money to the sport.
Strange,Greeces number 2 is using a Gas-Gas not bad for a weekend warrior😀
Why would anybody buy a GAS GAS over Yamaha???
They want to be different cuz there momma said they were special!
I did and Im glad I did! I like everything about it way more than a yamaha.. but thats just me. I dont like any japanese bikes after spending so much time on ktm's
Not sure why you'd pay that much for something that's "not that bad"
They're the same.
KTM is the KING of offroad. They have won the most supercross & motocross championships out of any manufacturer in the last 20 years. and have dominated enduro 25 years in a row. DOMINANT 🍊💯
KTM MX2 World Championships: 2003 2004 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2022 2023 🔥🍊💯
KTM MXGP World Championships: 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2017 2018 2021 2023 🔥🍊💯
KTM Supercross 450 Championships: 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2021 🔥🍊💯
KTM Has won an incredible 64 out of 81 Motos this year at loretta lynns. Pure DOMINATION. this once again proves that KTM is the best Motocross & Enduro manufacturer on the planet. KINGS 🔥👑🍊🧡💯
In baja at the 1000 Honda has won the most races to this day.
@@nolandenham2509 Sadly mistaken, KTM Won 18 years in a row at dakar rally and have more than double the wins of honda and yamaha put together.
KTM 19 Wins Yamaha 9 Honda 8 🧡🍊💯🔥
Proud of those bikes made in CHINA NOW!!😂
Support CHINA buy 2 ktms😂😂
@@jknisley4317 Hahaha you’re clueless my guy, the duke 125-390 & the the rc 125-390 will be produced in china, nothing else. all offroad models production will remain to be built in house in Austria & not a single part will come from china for ANY offroad model.
Jokes on you, point & laugh 🫵😂🤣😭
I don’t understand “ready to race” concept when I see riders change to the Austrian brands they are slower and unhappy
Yamaha didn’t rev my heart… liars
I make fun of my buddy because his ready to race ktms don't come greased properly
Hahaha, you’re clueless
KTM is the KING of offroad. They have won the most supercross & motocross championships out of any manufacturer in the last 20 years. and have dominated enduro 25 years in a row. DOMINANT 🍊💯
KTM MX2 World Championships: 2003 2004 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2022 2023 🔥🍊💯
KTM MXGP World Championships: 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2017 2018 2021 2023 🔥🍊💯
KTM Supercross 450 Championships: 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2021 🔥🍊💯
KTM Has won an incredible 64 out of 81 Motos this year at loretta lynns. Pure DOMINATION. this once again proves that KTM is the best Motocross & Enduro manufacturer on the planet. KINGS 🔥👑🍊🧡💯
@bizzle4819 no new mx bikes come with enough grease from factory. Unless you got a dealer that goes above and beyond every bike is shit. All my yamahas were borderline dry from 06-18 when I switched to ktm. My buddy's Hondas are the same. Steering stem bearings on all brands are brutal.
And bankrupt 😂
Is this April Fools?
If you want an old gas, just buy a rieju
He's a pd yama guy his opinion is tainted
He is paid by factory advertising money...honest...
He is paid by MXA lol
@@GYPSYTALES I frequently watch your interviews, I understand about headlines grabbing attention, but in this case I think you should have not rushed and thought more about it.
There all junk
KTM is the KING of offroad. They have won the most supercross & motocross championships out of any manufacturer in the last 20 years. and have dominated enduro 25 years in a row. DOMINANT 🍊💯
KTM MX2 World Championships: 2003 2004 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2022 2023 🔥🍊💯
KTM MXGP World Championships: 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2017 2018 2021 2023 🔥🍊💯
KTM Supercross 450 Championships: 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2021 🔥🍊💯
KTM Has won an incredible 64 out of 81 Motos this year at loretta lynns. Pure DOMINATION. this once again proves that KTM is the best Motocross & Enduro manufacturer on the planet. KINGS 🔥👑🍊🧡💯
Japanese bikes shouldn’t even be in the same conversation 🫵😂
Looks that way, the 300 2 stroke pistons break up and hit counter balance weight,ktm sold out of 300 pistons
@@RogerT-kt3zdhow many comments you gonna reply to, never seen dickriding this bad
Indian owned, made it China. I'll stick with the Japanese brands.
Same brands. Different colors. Now made in China. Sigh.
I'm not broke but I'm not buying no dirtbike for 10,000 fkn bucks. I just got a 2022 Suzuki rm 450 with only about 35 hours on it cuz dude got hurt at work an can't ride and it's just been sitting for 4500, i also bought a 2016 rm 125
Suzuki still made two strokes in 2016?
@@joellarsson9486 they still make them now lol
@@Bigkillaward wtf I didn't know that. I only see yamahas or ktm huskys here. I thought the last RM was 08 for some reason
@Bigkillaward @@joellarsson9486it was 08 mate, if this guy bought a 2016 rm125 it was a left over ,(which would be amazing by the way) or sombody ripped them off. Suzuki stopped producing the RM 2strokes in 08 they did sell for a bit longer granted but it was just old stock
@@Bigkillaward actually I was right. Last year of the RM 250 was 2008
They're OK when they're brand new but they turn to clapped out old junk in a real hurry. Any of the Japanese brands will far outlive any of the Austrian brands.
ya right... in my group we have husqy 450 with 400 hours. all snowbike hours pure abuse. also multiple 300's and 250 two stroked with 400+ hours. they go forever.. I loved my 2020 honda 450 but my 21 gg 450 is truly better in every single way possible.