Eurovision: Top 25 Returnees Who Did Better in Their Subsequent Attempts

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  • čas přidán 14. 01. 2024
  • Happy new year everyone! Today, we will be looking at some Eurovision artists who competed again and did better than their previous attempts.
    There are more or less 200 artists who competed at least twice at the song contest. However, this statistic only includes those who competed as a lead artist and returned again as a lead artist or a member of a duo or band. In other words, this excludes those returnees who first became a backing singer and later competed as a lead artist or vice versa.
    I adopted the formula of @clarinetmoonesc in calculating the ranking of these entries. I highly recommend watching his videos for more Eurovision statistics.
    Enjoy!

Komentáře • 112

  • @edthepheurofan
    @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci +31

    Hello everyone! It seems that there might be a confusion as to why there are returning artists who were not included in this video. I apologize for the confusion.
    I wrote in the description box that I adopted the formula of ESC Clarinet Moon in ranking these entries; thus, the entries that you see in the video are STATISTICALLY the best returning entries based on their previous attempt.
    I’ll just be providing a spreadsheet so that you may have a visualization on how I did the math. Again, big thanks to ESC Clarinet Moon for the formula.
    Here's the spreadsheet link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InkwYkahs2XdBrBSfkfe0Ixts4iYUdKoIkxZRWjCWoA/edit?usp=sharing
    Cheers!

    • @zebras54
      @zebras54 Před 3 měsíci +3

      You can add Vicky Leandros with l'Amour est Bleu in 1967 and Après toi 1972 to your spreadsheet

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@zebras54 she’s #39 on the spreadsheet

    • @kubamatusek2609
      @kubamatusek2609 Před 3 měsíci

      How did you get this result in a decimal fraction? E.g. 1st/19-1.0000 and 3rd/16-0.8667?

    • @zebras54
      @zebras54 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@edthepheurofan oh my oh my. Apologies.

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@kubamatusek2609 I adopted ESC Clarinet Moon's formula in calculating these. Basically, a win is 100% and last place is 0%, and the remaining entries are fractionally placed in between.
      His video in the top countries in Junior Eurovision by average results perfectly explains the formula. I highly recommend to check his videos out.

  • @Laurinda15
    @Laurinda15 Před 3 měsíci +115

    Interesting how the second attempt more often than not turns more up-beat.

    • @Beckford4000
      @Beckford4000 Před 3 měsíci +9

      unless you're look at Linda Martin and Monika Lynkte, both sent much slower entries during their second, more successful attempt.

    • @Rash23215
      @Rash23215 Před 3 měsíci +12

      ​@@Beckford4000 do u not understand the meaning of "more often than not" ???

    • @balkz7856
      @balkz7856 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@Beckford4000and Tamara Todevska

  • @chrisphoris2729
    @chrisphoris2729 Před 3 měsíci +55

    You could also include Helena Paparizou. She firstly participated in 2001, as a part of Antique and then she won in 2005.
    Edit: ok, I've just read the pinned comment! I got it!😊

  • @TheManInBlueFlames
    @TheManInBlueFlames Před 3 měsíci +25

    If they're still alive, what's left of Peter, Sue and Marc should be internally selected for Switzerland one year as a tribute!

    • @ohle0810
      @ohle0810 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Jahn teigen is dead

  • @BrynjarReynisson
    @BrynjarReynisson Před 3 měsíci +21

    This is a very interesting video. Interesting that many of these competed for two different countries. Also funny seeing Peter, Sue and Marc twice. Theyre legends competing 4 times in 4 different languages

  • @eljestLiv
    @eljestLiv Před 3 měsíci +10

    I love Şebnem Paker’s entries so much. Both are genuinely fantastic songs.

  • @yagizefeyildirim
    @yagizefeyildirim Před 3 měsíci +7

    How many times you want to represent Switzerland?
    Peter: Yes
    Sue: Yes
    Marc: Yes

  • @user-dn3ec4zi9f
    @user-dn3ec4zi9f Před 3 měsíci +10

    Poli did the biggest progress tho considering the difference in competition levels. Top 3 are cases long time ago when there were much less participants and songs were not as different from each other as they're now

  • @whoisthisaspectguy
    @whoisthisaspectguy Před 3 měsíci +2

    The transition in Sebnem Paker, Doris Dragovic, and Tamara Todevska's parts are so good

  • @morbidsearch
    @morbidsearch Před 3 měsíci +4

    The amount of control in Mia Martini's voice between her two entries is like night and day

  • @Thomas.Christodoulou
    @Thomas.Christodoulou Před 3 měsíci

    🇨🇾 What a beautiful video! ❤ Thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @nikosstefanidis4551
    @nikosstefanidis4551 Před 3 měsíci +16

    Anna Vissi was also 9th Place 2006 in Athens

    • @ariccua6101
      @ariccua6101 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yeah, but that's the other way around. She finished 5th for CYP in 1982. But if you're only talking GRE, then that counts.

  • @KarlDowney
    @KarlDowney Před 3 měsíci +4

    Doris Dragovic returned and slayed. Would love her to represent Croatia again

  • @Thomaaas876
    @Thomaaas876 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Super video!! Can you make a video for those who did worse?

  • @markr002
    @markr002 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Where’s Linda Martin, Vicky Leandros and Dima Bilan? All winners.

    • @rjrball1227
      @rjrball1227 Před 8 hodinami

      They got 2nd 4th and 2nd respectively while #1 in the list got 17th on apptmpt 1 and 1st on take 2

  • @Pdjohnners
    @Pdjohnners Před 3 měsíci

    Joyous

  • @e.s.7272
    @e.s.7272 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Katja Ebstein is missing in this video.
    - "Wunder gibt es immer wieder", 1970, 3rd place
    - "Diese Welt", 1971, 3rd place
    - "Theater", 1980, 2nd place

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️

  • @gg454lune
    @gg454lune Před 3 měsíci +1

    Elisabeth Andreassen was in Bobbysocks! ? That means she was my winner twice, since Norway took the first place in my top in both 1985 and 1996.
    Tamara Todevska was right for coming back since she was my winner in 2019.
    Hot Eyes were my winners in 1984.
    Both Poli Genova's songs were my winners.

  • @giuseppesebastian252
    @giuseppesebastian252 Před 2 měsíci

    That transition from Trödler und Co. to Io senza te is funny yet epic!

  • @clarinetmoonesc
    @clarinetmoonesc Před 3 měsíci +7

    Nice!

  • @rjrball1227
    @rjrball1227 Před 2 měsíci

    Always remember son you are vengeance -hamilcar

  • @ooost1970
    @ooost1970 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Linda Martin could have been on the list too

    • @Africkinggod
      @Africkinggod Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah but she only moved up 1 spot, but to be fair that 1 spot did give her the win😅

  • @sebastiankurth5651
    @sebastiankurth5651 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Can you make the same video with artists woh did better in their first attempt?

  • @juliethompson5301
    @juliethompson5301 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love the vid...but no Vicky Leandros? apologies ive just seen the above comment 😊

  • @vvlfg
    @vvlfg Před 3 měsíci +2

    Cool! 👍 Why is Sunstroke's project "Hey mamma" blurred? 😏

    • @Beckford4000
      @Beckford4000 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Copyright. That's pretty obvious, anyone who's been on CZcams longer than 6 months could figure that out.

    • @Rash23215
      @Rash23215 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Beckford4000 op joined 17 years ago.....

  • @tamaravanhees1749
    @tamaravanhees1749 Před 2 měsíci

    5here needs to be another video as a few were missing

  • @klrmsg
    @klrmsg Před 3 měsíci +10

    What about Udo Jurgens of Austria? He competed 3 years in a row and improved each time.
    6th in 1964
    4th in 1965
    1st in 1966

    • @Beckford4000
      @Beckford4000 Před 3 měsíci +4

      There's a lot he's missed out here (e.g. numerous people who won on their second attempt, e.g. Carola, Linda Martin, Dima Bilan, not just Udo).

    • @Beckford4000
      @Beckford4000 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Valentina Monetta also competed three times, improving each time.

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 Před 3 měsíci +2

      He didn't made the top 25

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@Beckford4000they didn't make the top 25

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@Beckford4000she didn't maje the top 25

  • @esclance
    @esclance Před 3 měsíci +2

    I usually find that the second attempt does worse, but there’s a lot of these!

  • @jukkahf
    @jukkahf Před 3 měsíci +1

    Vicky Leandros Participated in 1967 And he won in 1972 I missed her

  • @rwrobwalker
    @rwrobwalker Před 2 měsíci

    It’s just abit of fun but you’d think a formula would put actual winners in the top ten. Carola for Sweden, Helena Paparizou for Greece and Dima Bilan for Russia - all came back for another attempt and won.

  • @raoultlam1549
    @raoultlam1549 Před 3 měsíci +3

    How did Peter, Sue and Marc make the list twice😂

  • @Kilsakala
    @Kilsakala Před 3 měsíci

    Chiara from Malta could be there too, as she was first number 3 and later 2 :)

  • @mawe1979
    @mawe1979 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Where is Kikki Danielsson from chips with Elisabeth Andreassen 1982. In 1985 she came 3

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci +3

      Based on my calculations, courtesy of the formula made by ESC Clarinet Moon (you can check out his videos for more ESC stats), Kikki ranked 27th. The video only featured the 25 entries so that explains it. 😊

    • @allasmyssanify
      @allasmyssanify Před 3 měsíci +2

      Where is Carola? 1983 - 3. 1991- victory.

  • @jukkahf
    @jukkahf Před 3 měsíci

    You should do a top 50 🥹🥹🥹

  • @rjrball1227
    @rjrball1227 Před 8 hodinami

    Hanne Krogh is almost a last to first story

  • @jefke69
    @jefke69 Před 3 měsíci

    Where is Stella Maesen? She participated with her sisters as Hearts of Soul for the Netherlands in 1970, then for Belgium in Dream Express (for the Flemish television) and then as Stella with Si tu aimes ma musique for Belgium for the French television...

  • @frenchhufflepuffie83
    @frenchhufflepuffie83 Před 3 měsíci

    I loved Na Inat so much

  • @memandi2
    @memandi2 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm surprised to see so many artists representing different countries.

  • @Beckford4000
    @Beckford4000 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Donny Montell (Lithuania) 14th -> 9th, Monika Lynkte (Lithuania) 18th -> 11th, Marco Mengoni (Italy) 7th ->4th. You could also include Carola, Dima Bilan & Linda Martin who won on their second attempts. Constantinos Christoforou (Cyprus) 9th (solo) -> 6th (as part of One). How did you include Senhit, but not 2 other San Marino artists, Valentina Monetta (14th in SF -> 24th in the final) and Serhat (12th in SF -> 19th in the final). Maybe not as dramatic an improvement, but still they did much better with their subsequent attempts. How you can include Lys Asia, who everyone knows won the first contest, yet exclude these entrants, I don't know.

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci +4

      As the title of the video suggests, I only included the top 25 entries who did better. I know there are A LOT of artists who returned and did better than their previous attempts, 85 entries to be specific, but again, I only made a video specifically highlighting the top 25 entries who statistically did better.
      You can check out the pinned comment if you want.

  • @liambarry9337
    @liambarry9337 Před 3 měsíci

    What about Linda Martin???? 2nd to Diggy Looo and 1st in 1992????

  • @marcosulis3498
    @marcosulis3498 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Mia❤

  • @lazarnikolovski2703
    @lazarnikolovski2703 Před 3 měsíci

    Is there a part 2 to this??

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci

      Unfortunately, no, since the video only features the 25 entries who statistically did better than their previous attempts. You can, however, check the pinned comment and click the spreadsheet link to see all returning artists who did better in their subsequent attempts.

  • @brianjkelleher
    @brianjkelleher Před 3 měsíci

    How is no one commenting that Lys Assia won the 1st Eurovision, so that cant be included as she won the first time, and i feel like the two enteys that combined into La Det Swing could have been combined, as in the didnt need two separate spots on the list

  • @joseuribe9273
    @joseuribe9273 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Going from 2to 1 like Dima is more iconic. Or 1 to 1 like Loreen

  • @thatbobas___child8824
    @thatbobas___child8824 Před 2 měsíci

    Chiara did better in 2005 (2nd) than she did in 1998 (3rd) when she represented Malta. :)

  • @leylayetmez
    @leylayetmez Před 2 měsíci

    6:24 best rinoplastic surgery ever

  • @vahvahdisco
    @vahvahdisco Před 3 měsíci +1

    How come Peter, Sue & Marc are in it at 1:46 and then again with another 2 songs at 10:06, all for Switzerland ?!

  • @bosko41
    @bosko41 Před 3 měsíci

    Doris ❤

  • @user-yc1qf6gn9x
    @user-yc1qf6gn9x Před 3 měsíci

    This is good, but where is Dima Bolan, who will 2th place in 2006 and winner in 2008?

  • @oceanborn21
    @oceanborn21 Před 10 dny

    didn't you forget Helena Paparizou?

  • @jeffrey5125
    @jeffrey5125 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don't understand how Karolina is higher than Tamara when Tamara had a much higher jump from a lower place to a higher place

    • @MINH-rk2iv
      @MINH-rk2iv Před 3 měsíci +1

      Read the pinned comment plz

  • @josephnewsome2935
    @josephnewsome2935 Před 2 měsíci

    Where’s Linda Martin? 1984 2nd 1992 1st

  • @saudade_saudade977
    @saudade_saudade977 Před 3 měsíci

    shouldn't monika lynkite be in here too?

  • @martinbertilsson1654
    @martinbertilsson1654 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Pending on how you see the score for CRO99 since they country got a 33% deduction due to male voices on backing tape without male on stage I wonder if Doris really did better???

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Merit-wise, yes. For relegation system, no.

  • @anjakrebs1924
    @anjakrebs1924 Před 3 měsíci

    Where is Darja Švajger for Slovenia?

    • @bobekspekiel9890
      @bobekspekiel9890 Před 2 měsíci

      She was 7th in 1995 and 11th in 1999 so obviously it’s such a downgrade.

  • @ArmEuro
    @ArmEuro Před 3 měsíci

    and where is Loreen, she also won twice, one in 2011 and the other in 2023

  • @gjbsarmeri3957
    @gjbsarmeri3957 Před 2 měsíci

    Where is Joksimovic? Also it's criminal how Run away was 22nd in 2010.

    • @bobekspekiel9890
      @bobekspekiel9890 Před 2 měsíci

      Technically Joksimovič gained worse result after his return (2nd in 2004 and 3rd in 2012)

  • @manuelbonilla7348
    @manuelbonilla7348 Před 3 měsíci

    You absolutely forgot Linda Martin

  • @dreasbn
    @dreasbn Před 3 měsíci +3

    Wow no Katja Ebstein and no Udo Jürgens who actually did a perfect triple.. 😮

    • @jmkvelden
      @jmkvelden Před 3 měsíci

      Thought the same thing...

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 Před 2 měsíci

    Akula-Кiслотний DJ(never qualified)

  • @KitchenStarCabinets
    @KitchenStarCabinets Před 3 měsíci

    Dima Bilan finished 2nd in 2006 and won in 2008

  • @videot8
    @videot8 Před 3 měsíci

    Where is Marion Rung? Tipitii 1962 7 place and Tom Tom Tom 1973 6 place!

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci

      Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️

  • @teku1883
    @teku1883 Před 3 měsíci

    And dima bilan?

    • @memandi2
      @memandi2 Před 3 měsíci

      Read the pinned post

  • @xristosspanos143
    @xristosspanos143 Před 3 měsíci

    Dima bilan with Russia
    Elena paparizou greece

  • @geograf5
    @geograf5 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Dima Bilan. Why not?

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️

  • @nevillevector
    @nevillevector Před 3 měsíci

    Sanja Vucic?

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci

      Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️

  • @HereToChillForever
    @HereToChillForever Před 3 měsíci

    Poli Genova 2nd is the best

  • @keijolehtinen5668
    @keijolehtinen5668 Před 3 měsíci

    Sorry but you have not all here. Vicky Leandros 1967 4th and 1972 1st. Carola Häggqvist 1983 3rd 1991 1st. Marion Rung 1962 7th 1973 6th. Fredi 1967 12th 1976 11th. And Lys Assia was 1st 1956..Second time 8th and third time second. So She not be In this list...

  • @marcellastoechal
    @marcellastoechal Před 3 měsíci

    Where is AUSTRIA

    • @edthepheurofan
      @edthepheurofan  Před 3 měsíci

      Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️

  • @ionbalan2753
    @ionbalan2753 Před 3 měsíci

    For real I expected and Dima Bilan here