Eurovision | TOP 50 Countries by Average Results (1956-2023)
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2023
- Welcome back to my first 2023 video post-contest, and it's time to update the average result of every country! Make sure you read this description if you want to know about the system I used and to avoid confusion in the comments.
As well as the countries and averages, you can also see how the 2023 results affected their overall placement in the ranking, and which song got the closest result to a country's average!
Morocco and Serbia & Montenegro have been excluded due to not having enough participations (and basically making the video less exciting)- Morocco's 1 participation in 1980 would earn them last place (5.56%) and Serbia & Montenegro's 2 participations as one single country in 2004-2005 would earn them 1st (90.68%).
HOW THE AVERAGES ARE CALCULATED
In this system, both the position achieved and the amount of participants each year are considered so every result is proportional and relative- how successful a country placed in one year is calculated by the percentage of other participants that placed below them, i.e. a win is 100%, a last place is 0%, and all the rest fill in the places fractionally between. The average of all of these numbers is then taken for each country, and they are ordered in the ranking you see in this video! This allows each year to have equal weight and doesn't discriminate against the newer countries for joining in years with more participants.
(For anyone who saw previous videos, this is exactly the same weighting as the scaled average system, just a different way to express it).
TIES
When you tie with someone else, they are essentially half above you and half below you, so that is also reflected in the positions. For example, the placement for a 2-way tie for 2nd is treated as 2.5, meaning the percentage of participants that placed below will be exactly between the value for 2 and 3. And with 3-way ties, joint 8th is treated as 9 because it's the average of the positions 8, 9 and 10, so the value is the percentage of participants that placed below 9th. The single tie that remains unaltered is the 4-way tie for 1st in 1969, as all of them are official winners so all get 100%.
AUTOMATIC QUALIFIERS
The automatic qualifiers (host entries, the big 5, and high placing countries from 2004-2007) get their results treated in 2 different ways.
- If they placed above countries that qualified to the final, the number of participants is the overall amount that year, meaning their percentage increases.
- If they only placed above other automatic qualifiers (or came last) the number of participants is only the amount of finalists, meaning coming last in the final is the same as dead last overall.
NON QUALIFIERS
This video is only about placings for the average, but points do come into deciding the position order of non qualifiers from different semi finals, and compared to previous videos, my system has now changed (!!) and no longer uses the eurovisionworld rankings.
There'll hopefully be a video where I go into this more, but in summary: my new system now sets the average amount of points received as 50%, meaning all non qualifying point scores are now divided by that figure (58*voters/participants) instead of the maximum possible (12*(voters-1)) to determine their order. The reasoning being that although 1 point takes up a greater proportion of the total with less voters, there are also less zeroes these voters give out in the points- so the impressiveness and the lack of impressiveness cancel out. This results in NQ rankings that are mostly more similar to ordering by just the points themselves rather than the percentage, but 2022 for example (where semi 1 had 2 less voters and 1 less participant than semi 2) produces the most notable changes.
The changes from last year when I did use the eurovisionworld system are very tiny, but if you're wondering why Hungary's most average song changed despite not participating, that is the reason.
1956
Every single song a country participated with is considered equally, as opposed to every single year a country participated in. This means that the countries which sent 2 songs in 1956 each have 2 placings from that year. Switzerland has 1 win and a 13-way tie for 2nd place, and the rest all have two 13-way ties for 2nd place to contribute to their average. If you apply the tiebreak rules above, this works out as 8th out of 14, as 8 is the average of the numbers from 2-14.
90s NQs
Pre-qualifying rounds were held in 1993 and 1996, but both of these have been ignored for this ranking as they are not officially part of the Eurovision Song Contest in the same way that semi finals now are. All countries failing to qualify in those years simply didn't participate.
I think I have covered everything, but don't be afraid to leave a comment. I hope you enjoy the video! - Hudba
That clip of Al Bano forgetting the lyrics never fails to crack me up.
Such a poor performance, and yet they managed to get a 7th place that year 😅
@@giorgiograffino3724 What did you expect, they managed to get Romina to sing for decades and no one ever called the police!!!
Lol when Yugoslavia goes up by 1 place even though it does not exist anymore😂
Turkey going up two places despite not competing lol
@@RockiesSweden true
other countries go down
that`s all magic
*shocked by an actually good ESC statistic for the UK*
Surely the 16 second places they got had their influence over all those bottom 5 placements
I can’t remember who it was, but somebody once called the United Kingdom Schrödinger’s Country at Eurovision - both a powerhouse and absolutely terrible also.
@@JeSuisRene less of that and more so just a fallen powerhouse of the past
I always love these videos from you, you put so much thought into them! I did prefer seeing the scaled average, I think I personally found it a bit easier to contextualize than the percentage. But I can also see why this would be better so no real complaint here
I was debating which one to use but ever since I realised a good and understandable way to summarise the percentage method I stuck with it
Brilliant! ❤
I was surprised more than once.
It seems that I love average places songs. 😂
this is massively impressive, thank you.
Great job 👏
You're genius. No more words, such job can't be ever done better than the way you did.
Great video!
After reading (quite a few times, I must confess) your explanation of how the averages are calculated and the ties sorted out, I really must take my hat off to you. Astounding! ("amazing" is so overused nowadays that doesn't convey my feelings).
I was also quite delighted by your choice of the Spanish most representative performance ("Tú volverás" by Sergio y Estíbaliz, 1975), for personal and sentimental reasons (Sergio passed away a few years ago and I loved watching him so young and earnest).
Ive always seen Azerbaijan as an underrated country, but never thought it would come 4th on this list
As a German I love how you calculate the BIG 5 : "meaning coming last in the final is the same as dead last overall" 😢. But is fair ! How many more years will it take us to get to the bottom ? It's a tragedy. That being said, I love your videos 🥰
Germany 2023 did NOT deserve last place... I can't believe UK had a better place
Bro the 2 last years germany have been great, with ”Rockstars” simple but great staging. And with ”Blood and Glitter” powerful staging
@@jaevlaunghee8502 and blood and glitter was such a powerful song
That must've been lots of work. :o
Thank you for giving the effort to your calculations to get as fair ranking as possible! 🙏
Cyprus getting 29th might not seem that good until you realise it is absolutely tiny
Sad that Belgium is low, I really enjoy their recent songs.
Luxembourg might change their placement on here next year. 🤔
Let's hope they won't choose yet another ordinary pop song (like Israel this year or Spain last year)
@@user-xp9sf2dx6tboth of them got 3rd place so what's the problem?
@BrynjarReynisson The problem is that if Luxembourg sent an entry like what Spain and Israel did, they wouldn't be interesting because they'd be conforming to society just so that simple minded people would vote for them instead of doing what they actually want.
Honestly, I don't give a damn about whether if Luxembourg gets a high result or not. All I want is for Luxembourg to send a genuinely good song and NOT CONFORM to society like Spain 2022 and Israel 2023.
Also, this is just a subjective statement, but Spain 2022 is just not that interesting and Israel 2023 is below average for me. If you want a good dance entry, look at Denmark 1981.
Maybe we should ad Željko to Serbia since he is from Serbia and No Name to Montenegro for same reason.
the transition from not the same to mamo was awesome omg
It was just a normal transition what are you on about
Do a video where all country s best result i s compared with 52 countries
Luxembourg might get higher next year
Poor Morocco always catching a stray in these every year 😭
Ukraine and Sweden will absolutely have the most wins one day
Sweden perhaps. But Ukraine currently has less than half the victories Sweden and Ireland has. I don't see Ukraine catching Sweden.
@@PhilipWester well, if jury stops being so biased towards Sweden every year, then probably Ukraine will overtake Sweden in like 30-40 years 🤷♂️
@@user-xp9sf2dx6t Well, if televoting stops being so biased towards Ukraine, that won't happen :)
@@xander2609 televoting was biased towards Ukraine only one time (in 2022), whereas juries are biased towards Sweden basically since they started participating
@@user-xp9sf2dx6t Televoting was biased towards Ukraine this year as well. In no way they would have come 4th in the televote if the situation in the world was different. And so it was in 2016 aswell
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Portugal being so ridiculously low is honestly why I never took the ESC results any seriously at all, sorry to say...
maybe they should just send better songs
most of the stuff they send isn't very good tbh
It's because it's always boreing crap!
So proud of serbia
It's interesting the Sweden and Norway gained one place, Israel 3, and Finland none.
Finland in theory should've gone down a place thanks to Czechia going up 5 but instead their result ensured they stayed in the same place while Portugal went down 2 to make up
Ireland gained one spot even though they (once again) failed to qualify
How did Ireland go up a position?
The average went down a little but romania's went down a LOT
Misteries of statistics :how can Ireland that didn't qualify go up 1 place?
All thanks to Romania- Ireland's terrible result barely affected their average because of how many times they've participated but Romania's even more terrible result drags it down more because it affects the average more
Ukraine and Russia top 2. ❤
Sorry, too bias. I am Russian, with Ukrainian last name and about 1/3 of family in Ukraine. But live in USA
At least in historical contexts, I would refer to Czechia as the Czech Republic (until 2022), North Macedonia as FYR Macedonia (until 2018) and Türkiye as Turkey (until 2022).
Are you ever going to comment anything helpful