Why You Can't Remember the Story of Any Videogame | Asmongold Reacts

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  • Asmongold Reacts to videogamedunkey
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  • @RaeNeptune
    @RaeNeptune Před 21 dnem +1206

    In an Alternate Dimension, you watched this video
    and forgot about it because you have.....
    Amneeeesiaaa...

  • @yoyofargo
    @yoyofargo Před 21 dnem +664

    Professor Oak doesn't remember his grandson's name... because he has... Amnesia...

  • @blazeario
    @blazeario Před 21 dnem +94

    In World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, the Undead player character is brought back to life with... amnesia.

  • @hercb4388
    @hercb4388 Před 21 dnem +520

    Amnesia is just an easy way to make players connect with the main character because they are developing and learning information the same way you are while playing the game. Compared to a character who has a backstory and is already very developed you will always feel like you are controlling that character not that you are the character.

    • @Adam-FR
      @Adam-FR Před 21 dnem +18

      That's a really good reason actually

    • @12SickOne34
      @12SickOne34 Před 21 dnem +60

      But still
      it is the easiest, cheapest and cheesiest way to do it

    • @Ydrakar
      @Ydrakar Před 21 dnem +16

      Like geralt in witcher 1 with amnesia vs geralt in witcher 3 who has remembered all of his very long history.

    • @a-arons4364
      @a-arons4364 Před 21 dnem +1

      ​@@12SickOne34 only when it's used specifically for that.

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 Před 21 dnem +16

      ​@@12SickOne34and how else would you achieve that goal while not making the player start with the character from birth fallout 3 style? It's overused, yest but that's because it's the most efficient way to do so

  • @MrhibyeTV
    @MrhibyeTV Před 21 dnem +567

    I vividly remember what happened in Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic rolled around at the speed of sound because he had places to go. He had to follow his rainbow. You then meet Shadow, and he uses the Chaos Emeralds to fuck your shit up. You eventually chase down all the emeralds, become a super saiyan, and finally whoop Shadow's ass in a long ass running contest. You collect pokemon on the way too.

    • @vergillives9890
      @vergillives9890 Před 21 dnem +11

      Sonic is the only parts people ever talk about

    • @mindcrime2692
      @mindcrime2692 Před 21 dnem +9

      it was pretty dope tbh

    • @NoctuaOlivae
      @NoctuaOlivae Před 21 dnem +5

      That's why SA1 is the superior game. I still don't know what the plot is about. I think Chaos is a bad guy, but also a good guy? And apparently there used to be a lot more Knuckles running around in the past.

    • @Dfeneck
      @Dfeneck Před 21 dnem +2

      Played this last year. Checks out.

    • @krystenvaughn9864
      @krystenvaughn9864 Před 21 dnem +1

      I miss those 'chao's' or however you spell it, they were so fun, would leave the game on over night and wake up with a whole new critter! Well, iirc we kicked them to make them evil. Lol.

  • @TheDonBry
    @TheDonBry Před 21 dnem +154

    In elden ring, its the maidens that have amnesia, that's why you're maidenless coz they forgot about you.

    • @Vaguer_Weevil
      @Vaguer_Weevil Před 21 dnem +4

      No maidens?

    • @ETBrooD
      @ETBrooD Před 21 dnem +9

      Here I thought we were maidenless because we sat in our basements all day l-- oh, I see where you're coming from.

    • @TheSodaShop
      @TheSodaShop Před 21 dnem +7

      It's heavily implied that White Mask Varrw killed your maiden

    • @HarmlessComment
      @HarmlessComment Před 21 dnem +8

      I think your maiden is the one you find dead at the start of the game. You later go back to get the blood soaked cloth from her. Someone killed your maiden 🙃

    • @TheSodaShop
      @TheSodaShop Před 21 dnem +2

      @@HarmlessComment it was most likely White Mask Varre

  • @Zero_Chill_Gaming
    @Zero_Chill_Gaming Před 21 dnem +492

    Japan been abusing the amnesia trope forever😂😂

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 Před 21 dnem +43

      Korea does this in their kdramas llol have to have a amnesia arc along with the cancer arc lol

    • @a-arons4364
      @a-arons4364 Před 21 dnem +24

      American cartoons and Hollywood, South American, and European films do this excessively too

    • @Lionel-Goodfellow
      @Lionel-Goodfellow Před 21 dnem +7

      Asmongold the 'super-duper gamer' doesn't know one of the most common tropes in video games -amnesia hahahahahahahahahaha fkn lol hehehehehe. Some gamer is Asmon hahaha.
      Still love Asmon, but boy he's got to learn a lot more about gaming, he's a noob. lol

    • @SophisticatedHermit
      @SophisticatedHermit Před 21 dnem +7

      About as much as the western devs. This particular trope is sadly omnipresent.

    • @tchek1980
      @tchek1980 Před 21 dnem +1

      abusing the amnesia as far as i remember

  • @ManifestTheMusic
    @ManifestTheMusic Před 21 dnem +440

    I remember the beautiful haunting laugh of Tidus in my Dreams Eternal

    • @FlowPlusNRG
      @FlowPlusNRG Před 21 dnem +35

      HAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA 😂

    • @Jahkrel
      @Jahkrel Před 21 dnem +16

      HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    • @alext6933
      @alext6933 Před 21 dnem +10

      HA

    • @NuchiAsaki
      @NuchiAsaki Před 21 dnem +50

      It was bad on purpose and makes sense in the story.

    • @Jabamski
      @Jabamski Před 21 dnem +7

      HA HA HA HA HA

  • @wilsonjoshwilson
    @wilsonjoshwilson Před 21 dnem +88

    In Tales of Arise you get a metal mask put on your head and it gives you AMNESIA..

  • @Robert-ih5ri
    @Robert-ih5ri Před 21 dnem +13

    I'm 38 and I can still remember the story of FF7, 8, 9 and 10 and Secret of Mana. Am I weird?

  • @kylesmith987
    @kylesmith987 Před 21 dnem +188

    I agree that amnesia is a common trope especially in games, not sure i agree that it is used a lot in isekai though. Generally speaking the entire point on an isekai is that your transported to another or reincarnated into another world with all your memories intact. If anything it is the exact opposite that is the trope in isekais.

    • @sdbzfan1
      @sdbzfan1 Před 21 dnem +18

      yea Isekai doesnt need amnesia because you are foreign

    • @rakedos9057
      @rakedos9057 Před 21 dnem +22

      Remembering things of your old world is the whole point of isekai so the character has a completely different point of view and use it, so yes I strongly disagree about amnesia in isekai.

    • @user-vc6
      @user-vc6 Před 21 dnem +1

      lots of things like isekai come from original book masterpieces like sir arthur conan doyle's lost world john carter etc this setup allows a ton of flexibility too bad its been done too death and needs a break

    • @trocer2235
      @trocer2235 Před 21 dnem +1

      if amnesia is ever used in isekai, it's usually as a way to time skip from birth to whatever point in time the author wants. Like they get into an accident and hit their head, and all of a sudden all the memories of their past life comes back.

    • @rakedos9057
      @rakedos9057 Před 21 dnem

      @@cryhavocandletslipthedogso1873 And even in this one, it was about a sort of Alzheimer then the classic amnesia trope at the start.

  • @kerrypooley406
    @kerrypooley406 Před 21 dnem +204

    "Featuring the next classic; where 'all' characters featured has amneeeeeessiiiaaaa."

    • @idrilzorc8789
      @idrilzorc8789 Před 21 dnem +4

      Technically all characters in ff14 have amnesia cus they cant remember how world was saved from a primal lmao

    • @eldritchbidoof
      @eldritchbidoof Před 20 dny +1

      **HAVE. it's absolutely insane that TWO comments used 'have' incorrectly but here we are I guess, jfc...

    • @idrilzorc8789
      @idrilzorc8789 Před 20 dny

      @@eldritchbidoof I corrected! Are you freaking happy?!! 😂

    • @kerrypooley406
      @kerrypooley406 Před 20 dny

      @@eldritchbidoof Oh don't get me wrong, I saw the correct form of English. Only I had determined that literally no one would give a single fuck. Either because they wouldn't be assholes about it, or have amneeesssiaaa....~

    • @eldritchbidoof
      @eldritchbidoof Před 16 dny

      @@idrilzorc8789 beyond happy, thank you :)))))

  • @Fraulein_Sausageball
    @Fraulein_Sausageball Před 21 dnem +21

    I enjoyed when Asmon confused "meningitis" with "gingivitis".

    • @raphaelsouza5302
      @raphaelsouza5302 Před 21 dnem

      I didn't understood 80% of the video because the whispers.

  • @sincewhendoyouneedmyname569

    The only times I've heard Tidus' name said in game was in kingdom hearts where it is in fact pronounced "Teedus"

  • @jeremyimba
    @jeremyimba Před 21 dnem +98

    In FFX, Tidus didn't have amnesia, he was kind of tricked by everyone at first into thinking he suffered from Sin induced toxin, which possibly would've given him "fake" memories hence the -
    AMNESSSS UHHHHHHHHHHH
    Early on in the story he realizes none of his memories were altered. He is from a kind of created dream world that no one else had access to which makes his previous life, and experiences seem extravagant and crazy to everyone else. So, they obviously think he is lying when he tells them about his past. The FFX story is very thoughtful and even though it isn't that deep, the way it is executed and told in the game make it one of the best story games about sacrifice I have ever played.
    Also, the fake laugh scene of Tidus and Yuna (in English and Japanese) is executed extremely well and foreshadows the somber journey of the rest of the game. It's a bit sad how people still clown on it and completely miss the emotional message it conveys perfectly. A bit awkward as it is supposed to be, but it's just weird to me how people ever found it funny.

    • @ImminDragon
      @ImminDragon Před 21 dnem +30

      He is literally a summon. The summons in that are physical manifestations of the dreams of the fayth. X-2 deals with the real person he was based on. And that laugh scene is definitely suppose to sound like a fake laugh. He's basically telling her to "fake it 'til you make it" when she doesn't have it in her to laugh anymore because of the weight of her task.

    • @Trehek
      @Trehek Před 21 dnem +18

      Tidus wasn't even tricked. People didn't believe him, so their expected reason for his "delusions" became a convenient excuse to play off how clueless he was in Spira.

    • @pehclark7256
      @pehclark7256 Před 21 dnem

      Zanarkand is the ruin city of yore that is sustained by Dream of the Aeons of the Yevon fayth. It existed in the past and is the destination required to create new Aeons out of the guardians protecting the current summoner pilgrimage. But not all Aeons sacrifice is rescinded in kindness. Just look at meister Seymour.

    • @cornparade6874
      @cornparade6874 Před 21 dnem +2

      Honestly this explanation is worse than him just having amnesia

    • @arosbastion7052
      @arosbastion7052 Před 21 dnem +8

      ​@@cornparade6874how?

  • @L115Marine
    @L115Marine Před 21 dnem +9

    I replayed ff10 so much, my whole family did. Now some of them r gone but I still have the game to remind me :)

  • @Cecil_Harvey
    @Cecil_Harvey Před 21 dnem +8

    Silly Dunky. There is no character named “Baron” in FF4. Baron is a city.
    Yang does wash up on the shore near Baron without his memories though…
    See I remember the game perfectly.

  • @KiazaKadaj
    @KiazaKadaj Před 20 dny +4

    planescape torment was genuinely one of the best amnesia stories of all time for me

  • @shindig9000
    @shindig9000 Před 21 dnem +5

    I don't think Dunkey is really trying to make a point here. 🤷‍♂️

  • @skuld8985
    @skuld8985 Před 21 dnem +53

    Tidus doesn't have Amnesia, he's a dream who never had memories of the real world to begin with.

    • @llewenn
      @llewenn Před 19 dny

      Dunkey literally says he was lying about it.

    • @zid9611
      @zid9611 Před 19 dny +3

      ​@@llewennor maybe he just had amnesia

  • @roberts3423
    @roberts3423 Před 21 dnem +201

    I remember the story in FF7, FF9, FF10 clearly, great games.

    • @desertmammoth3159
      @desertmammoth3159 Před 21 dnem +9

      2000 words on wtf Sin was please.

    • @Lowdian
      @Lowdian Před 21 dnem +29

      You don't seem to understand the point of the video

    • @HonudesGai
      @HonudesGai Před 21 dnem +1

      @@desertmammoth3159 remember at the end when you kill god who was that fat high priest the whole game, who turns into a water bug, he made that to control and gain followers, I think the time travel was all related to that far plane people go to when they die

    • @zachanator2011
      @zachanator2011 Před 21 dnem +13

      Damn 8 always get shafted 😂

    • @lucianoaguero6795
      @lucianoaguero6795 Před 21 dnem +4

      ​@@desertmammoth3159sin was a previous guardian who turns into sin by yunalesca and sending spirits to the far plane was part of that too.

  • @SurpriseWaratah
    @SurpriseWaratah Před 19 dny +3

    In Planescape Torment, it was fantastic. It was used in such an awesome way and it made perfect sense.

  • @maxw565
    @maxw565 Před 21 dnem +18

    The FFX Amnesia is a Stretch tho. Smth similar is used to convey the effect of the player identifying with him being a stranger to Spira, but it's not Amnesia.

    • @logiclunacy606
      @logiclunacy606 Před 19 dny +4

      He pretended that he was hit with Sins Toxin because he couldn't straight up say that he lived a 1000 years ago.

    • @PopcornMax179
      @PopcornMax179 Před 17 dny

      It's that you think as the player maybe he has amnesia, and he conveniently uses it as an excuse, but it turns out it was his real memories, but he's just not really real, but he is but not really.

    • @PopcornMax179
      @PopcornMax179 Před 17 dny +2

      ​@logiclunacy606 only he didn't. There's no time travel. But we're made to think that. It's a good misdirection.

    • @logiclunacy606
      @logiclunacy606 Před 17 dny +1

      @PopcornMax179 Tidus doesn't find that out until towards the end of the game. He just thinks that he's traveled in time, so he spends a lot of his time not knowing what's going on and using Sins Toxin as an excuse because he isn't accustomed to the culture of Spira. That is still pretending you have amnesia.

    • @SycosenMerihem
      @SycosenMerihem Před 17 dny +1

      It’s more convenient for Tidus to say he has Spira’s version of Amnesia than to tell the truth. It’s also masterfully done because it makes Tidus the watson and we get meaningfully introduced to the lore and mechanics of the world.

  • @InvntdXNEWROMAN
    @InvntdXNEWROMAN Před 21 dnem +109

    If you curate a list of the same tropes, it'll look like every story uses it. However, if you survey 1,000 different stories from different forms of media, then it won't appear that way.

    • @rakedos9057
      @rakedos9057 Před 21 dnem +9

      Pretty much, yes.

    • @kiretan8599
      @kiretan8599 Před 21 dnem +16

      Wow i didnt think of it like that, i will probably remember it if i didnt have amnesia

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 Před 21 dnem

      Can you explain again? English is not my first language so I'm confuused

    • @Jared39480
      @Jared39480 Před 21 dnem +3

      Yes, but amnesia is a common video game trope. Final Fantasy was on this list several times.

    • @leekyonion
      @leekyonion Před 21 dnem +3

      ​@Khann_2102 if you show only bad things to people, people will only believe in the bad thing. But if you look at everything around the world, you will find that there is some bad things and some good things. That's what they're trying to say but with the games about "amnesia"

  • @steven94th74
    @steven94th74 Před 21 dnem +43

    in Dragon Ball Z, Goku was meant to be Brightburn, but he was struck on the head, and, suffered...
    ham-kneeesssiaauhh

  • @xaero07vsxaero69
    @xaero07vsxaero69 Před 21 dnem +31

    Amnesia is such a common trope because it allows a self-insert of the player into the shoes of the main character in which you are playing as. It allows the player to immerse themselves into the world more readily as opposed to lets say an already established character with a background you may not necessarily relate with. I agree it's a bit overused but like why fix what's not broken? There's bound to be bad games with this trope just as much as there are good games with this trope.

    • @Kensuke0987
      @Kensuke0987 Před 18 dny

      interestingly, Galuf and Ringabel used the amnesia trope differently
      FFV and Bravely Default spoilers:
      Galuf is actually a king. not a very interesting reveal, considering that they had already used the "they were royalty all along!" once already. all it really did was let him be replaced with _yet another princess._
      Ringabel is from the future of a parallel world that has been lost/destroyed, and the prophetic book that he has been carrying turned out to be actually his diary.
      he's not _the self-insert character._ that role is left to a guy, Tiz, who had died once, and "you" inhabit his body giving him a second chance.

  • @Zanarkandd
    @Zanarkandd Před 21 dnem +16

    I've had this name for 20+ years ever since I played FFX. Reminds people of their Pilgrimage through the game, puts a smile on their face, while also reminding them of the horrific Tidus laugh :D . Don't worry I say Tie-dus too , like the tide on the beach, just made sense that way.

    • @NuchiAsaki
      @NuchiAsaki Před 21 dnem +6

      It was supposed to be like the latin word for tides. The guy who they hired to do the voice over for the English ad for the game didn't know how to pronounce latin so he said "Teedus". The rest of the people in the room were Japanese and didn't know how to pronounce it either. By the time they found out it was wrong, it was too late and the ad already aired on TV. Square-Enix wants everything to stay consistent so his name is "Teedus" forever. James Arnold Taylor, the English voice actor for Tidus, has a video on his youtube channel explaining the situation.

    • @Zanarkandd
      @Zanarkandd Před 21 dnem +3

      @@NuchiAsaki Nomura mentioned the contrast between the lead male and female protagonists established by their names; Tidus' name is based on the Okinawan word for "sun", and Yuna's name means "night" in Okinawan.

    • @Zanarkandd
      @Zanarkandd Před 21 dnem +2

      @@NuchiAsaki That's funny though I'll have to tell some friends that haha

  • @OwentheKingofDudes
    @OwentheKingofDudes Před 21 dnem +130

    Because every RPG is "You & a ragtag group of diverse young adults team up, travel all over the map TO SAVE THE WORLD!!!™"

    • @NPCSpotter
      @NPCSpotter Před 21 dnem +7

      True but ima be real, I’m a combat Andy. I could care less about the story. If the combat is really good I’ll find out more about the story through CZcams videos or Wikipedia. That’s how it was for me with Metal Gear Rising Revengance and Vanquish

    • @foreignuser_
      @foreignuser_ Před 21 dnem +20

      @@NPCSpotter if you could care less, you mean you care a little bit though, right? but you might care a lot. you're not really saying anything

    • @tntTom174
      @tntTom174 Před 21 dnem +3

      Yeah, save the world part is boring trope tbh and I'm fantasy in general and RPG games fan. That's why adore old Fallout games or Planescape Torment where world(s) just spins with or without you, coz you only care about a vault/village/own mortality and troubles of the world are just...for others to sort out. Wish there was more of these. Saving the world nowadays just fells like a cheap crutch rather then compelling story asset (noone is getting pulled out of their seats by it anymore just like noone is gonna be blown away by another open world game).

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@tntTom174Yeah, I love it when games don't revolve around the main character too much

    • @theral056
      @theral056 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@foreignuser_"I could care less" is American for "I couldn't care less". Don't ask me why. Learned about it a few years ago. I guess people don't reflect on the meaning of the words but just remember the "saying" and what it's supposed to signify. It had me wildly confused too for a while that people say the opposite of what they mean to convey.

  • @lunarrae
    @lunarrae Před 21 dnem +75

    yo i just saw FFX in the thumbnail and i played that game as a kid who didn't understand the mechanics of building characters but boy did the story stick with me 😫💜

    • @alext6933
      @alext6933 Před 21 dnem +12

      Yeah I remember that story better than most other stories I've ever heard in my life.

    • @helloyes1234
      @helloyes1234 Před 21 dnem +6

      Ffx its explained why he has it. In ffx it works very well imo

    • @RuneKatashima
      @RuneKatashima Před 21 dnem +1

      Yeah, but the video isn't actually about you remembering stories at all.

    • @italianspiderman5012
      @italianspiderman5012 Před 21 dnem +1

      Same, didn’t know a word of English but could follow the story somewhat, still the ending left me ugly crying and made me realise what games can be.

  • @Clwdi
    @Clwdi Před 21 dnem +67

    Why is this dude whispering is his mom asleep?

    • @Clwdi
      @Clwdi Před 21 dnem +20

      Bro said amnesia about 40x in the first 2 minutes I feel lobotomized

    • @ch1dd
      @ch1dd Před 21 dnem +51

      He forgot he could stop the bit after the beginning of the video. Because of amnesia

    • @paulysmallz8095
      @paulysmallz8095 Před 21 dnem +5

      @@ch1ddok that made me laugh a bit more than I should’ve

    • @infiniti7773
      @infiniti7773 Před 20 dny +4

      He and his wife had a baby so he has to be quiet when they're sleeping!

    • @ab0xxy
      @ab0xxy Před 20 dny +10

      Idk but after 3 minutes of it, I'm not even gonna bother with the rest of the video.

  • @vahidfarahani9784
    @vahidfarahani9784 Před 21 dnem +5

    Wrong thumbnail. I perfectly remember ff10 story' tidus pretends to have amnesia. One of my favorite games ever.

    • @SycosenMerihem
      @SycosenMerihem Před 17 dny +1

      Tidus tells people he has Amnesia so they’ll explain the world to him (us).

    • @vahidfarahani9784
      @vahidfarahani9784 Před 17 dny +1

      @@SycosenMerihem I know it's a technicality, but he never says he has amnesia. People just assume since he has been near sin his memories are messed up.
      He tells to rikku that he is from zanarkand and about his life there, she tells him that's impossible and since he was near sin, his head is messed up and that was just a dream.
      Later when he meets waka and drops the name zanarkand abes, and everyone get shocked, he says his memories are foggy because of sin.
      After that everyone just assume his lack of knowledge is due to sin toxin.

  • @DevinOfBacon
    @DevinOfBacon Před 13 dny +2

    In FF14, everyone has forgotten who the Warrior of Light is. But if you played 1.0, then Minfilia remembers you. (Not sure if just her, or more people)

  • @Vaguer_Weevil
    @Vaguer_Weevil Před 21 dnem +12

    What's funny to me is how often it's used in the Final Fantasy series alone

  • @wumbowjumbow7138
    @wumbowjumbow7138 Před 21 dnem +4

    I Played Final fantasy X 13 times including the remastered.
    I remember how Tidus’s laugh, even the reason why he laughed like that.

    • @bradleymoore2797
      @bradleymoore2797 Před 20 dny +1

      FF10 had pretty amazing combat visuals. Seeing a character dodge was amazing compared to getting hit and the word 'dodge' appearing on the screen. Then, it was also one of the first FF games where you had your ENTIRE party for the fight. Could switch and immediately use a character that was in reserve. It felt like everyone was actually there traveling with you instead of that switch party garbage feature previous FF had. I absolutely loved all the innovation FF10 made to the series and then they backpedaled with that awesome feature in future FF. I have no idea why.

    • @PatriotArro
      @PatriotArro Před 18 dny +1

      @@bradleymoore2797 Sometimes when you reinvent the wheel, it comes out another shape.

    • @bradleymoore2797
      @bradleymoore2797 Před 12 dny

      @@PatriotArro The party system of ff10 should be in every rpg. 🥺

  • @EmilKlingberg
    @EmilKlingberg Před 21 dnem +1

    I always thought that giving Tidus in FFX amnesia was a good way to have the characters give you exposition while it still fitting within the world. They had so much they wanted to tell you about spira etc, and it puts the player more in the place of tidus as the relationships he forms with the other characters is similar to yours, they tell him about the world, and you learn together. They didn't use amnesia to avoid backstory. They did it so they could directly tell the backstory without it feeling odd.

  • @7raziel7
    @7raziel7 Před 20 dny +4

    I can remember clicking that sweet SKIP button

  • @dionysusmclaren12
    @dionysusmclaren12 Před 21 dnem +10

    FF:Type 0
    You die and everyone else gets their memories erased about you......😢

    • @catinapan4956
      @catinapan4956 Před 21 dnem +5

      Type 0 is just pain 😢😢 from start to the end.

  • @Defcon339
    @Defcon339 Před 21 dnem +34

    The New Vegas example is wrong though. The player character has memories of things before the game and brings that up in a few conversations. One example is the Courier remembers seeing a character before in New Reno and can comment on that.

    • @blackjakas3595
      @blackjakas3595 Před 21 dnem +2

      No, it's right. Just because the writers didn't know what story continuity means, doesn't invalidate the whole main quest/story. Wich is you got shot in the head and can't remember shit, so you gotta remember and get revenge or whatever.
      You simply cannot infere so much with bethesda games, they never were well written and never will be. It's not like it's a fromsoft game, where at least you know something is in the game because the devs wanted it to.

    • @Defcon339
      @Defcon339 Před 21 dnem +15

      ​@blackjakas3595 There are multiple examples in NV where the Courier refers to events before the game. An entire dlc is dedicated to the aftermath of a job the Courier did before the events of the game.
      Besides that if the Courier didn't remember being shot in the head then why would they show us the opening cinematic of the Courier being shot in the head from the Courier's perspective. Also the Courier clearly recognizes Benny's face when you meet him in the Tops.

    • @Rhoderluxel
      @Rhoderluxel Před 21 dnem +6

      @@blackjakas3595 New Vegas was made by Obsidian Entertainment, only published by Bethesda

    • @sachxtrem
      @sachxtrem Před 20 dny +1

      @@Defcon339 Ya i dont remember the Courier having memory loss or anything, but i havent played in ages.

    • @fawkesandhound
      @fawkesandhound Před 20 dny +1

      Yeah he doesn’t have amnesia, I just started a new game and the Doc, who saved you asks you “questions” about yourself to build your character stats. The character creator is even in the context of, “did I get that right?”

  • @FridayNytes
    @FridayNytes Před 21 dnem +8

    this kinda reminds me of how DnD usually starts, you know, in a tavern.

  • @Chris-jx4ij
    @Chris-jx4ij Před 21 dnem +11

    Amnesia is a fast way to create a fish out of water in a story. And that allows people to exposit to the main character about things that they should otherwise know from living in that world.

  • @MastaHosen
    @MastaHosen Před 21 dnem +3

    "How could you forget you got shot in the head" easily. There is a police interrigation you can watch on CZcams with a guy who was shot in the head. The cops didn't look him over and thought he was drunk because he could not remember what happened. About an hour in the cops realized the wound and got him to the hospital but the man sadly died.

  • @J0man1
    @J0man1 Před 21 dnem +3

    Teedus. Favourite FF protagonist by far.

  • @Loki-
    @Loki- Před 21 dnem +11

    It's overused because it's a storytelling device? No. It's just a video made as a joke and tropes are tropes, whether they're used well is how you determine if the story is bad, but not because a trope is used.

  • @Albedo.EvilxD
    @Albedo.EvilxD Před 21 dnem +3

    my favorite final fantasy was 8 the MCs father was a soldier who fell in love with the singer at a bar who she also was in love with the soldier and promised to meet again but during a mission he fell off a cliff and hit his head giving him amnesia, he ends up in a village where he meets a women who nursed him and ends up falling in love with this women who btw is the mother of the mc, the singer was told the soldier died in his mission so she moved on marrying a general who later have daughter that becomes the MCs love interest

  • @ghostsoldier2112
    @ghostsoldier2112 Před 21 dnem +5

    Me able to recite the entirety of the metal gear solid series in canonical order by memory : huh....

  • @SonGokuuuuuuu
    @SonGokuuuuuuu Před 21 dnem +20

    Sly Cooper 💙

  • @VradFielder
    @VradFielder Před 20 dny +2

    all this proves is that amnesia is a great way to craft a story for a video game. He is listing some of the best stories in video game history

  • @Fauxmadd
    @Fauxmadd Před 17 dny +2

    Tidus didn't know because he was dreamt up and not real, his memories were real and his but from the past.

  • @MuscleWizard.
    @MuscleWizard. Před 21 dnem +3

    Fot Disco Elysium's case, it is not amnesia, he just forgot about his last night but forgot because he was blackout drunk. And that game is the story of a detective, so you piece together what you were up to last night via investigation, it's quite fun.

    • @dancolon6386
      @dancolon6386 Před 16 dny

      So it’s plot is based on drug related amnesia instead? Lmao

    • @MuscleWizard.
      @MuscleWizard. Před 16 dny

      @@dancolon6386 it's not the plot, just a side story

  • @meadhall4812
    @meadhall4812 Před 21 dnem +3

    Meanwhile I'm sitting here trying to think of a games story that I don't remember in great detail.

  • @seraph_dalgon_9216
    @seraph_dalgon_9216 Před 21 dnem +2

    All I’m hearing is that the best games all have something to do with amnesia

  • @MikedieONE
    @MikedieONE Před 18 dny +1

    in ff16 clive doesnt have amnesia at all. he remembers very well what happened. he just didnt realize HE was Ifrit the whole time because he saw it from third person view.
    it was more like a trance fever dream for him.

  • @Jabamski
    @Jabamski Před 21 dnem +6

    What if we all have amnesiaaaaaa?

  • @mantasr
    @mantasr Před 21 dnem +17

    No, in KOTOR you forget you're Revan because Bastilla does some force stuff to your brain.

    • @Sttennie
      @Sttennie Před 21 dnem +3

      The Jedi Concil does it

    • @Gohan237
      @Gohan237 Před 21 dnem

      This. It was the light side of the force not the dark as Dunkey mentions.

    • @pspsmallz
      @pspsmallz Před 21 dnem +12

      That's just amnesia forced on you through space wizard shit.

    • @MrSevenseals
      @MrSevenseals Před 21 dnem

      The council claims that, but it's explained that Revan actually did it to themselves and the council just claimed it. It's the reason Kreia wants to deal with you, to rid the universe of the force.

    • @xbox70333
      @xbox70333 Před 20 dny

      Force amnesiaaaa

  • @roxaskinghearts
    @roxaskinghearts Před 21 dnem +2

    elden ring had amnesia you just wake up without any past or back story and you lose xp when you fall

  • @iam16bits
    @iam16bits Před 21 dnem +1

    The way Dunkey is talking I'd assume he's at the drive thru of Cluckin' Bell.

  • @djtoxicdhg
    @djtoxicdhg Před 21 dnem +17

    He was going to review steller blade but dunky got amnesia!!!!

  • @foreignuser_
    @foreignuser_ Před 21 dnem +27

    In case you were wondering and didn't want to watch the whole thing: no, dunkey never makes a point.

    • @trueaegisform6811
      @trueaegisform6811 Před 21 dnem +12

      People expected otherwise? All i see here is just his fans repeating same unfunny jokes

    • @ch1dd
      @ch1dd Před 21 dnem +2

      Anyone expecting different never watched a dunkey video, the point is there from the beginning, and the video's existence itself. Like the anti-joke of youtube videos.

    • @foreignuser_
      @foreignuser_ Před 21 dnem

      @@ch1dd so are we talking about ironic comedy stylings or something?

    • @ch1dd
      @ch1dd Před 21 dnem +6

      @@foreignuser_ Not exactly, the comedy comes from not even having to explain a point, by pairing a title with just listing the sheer amount of examples under it. From people expecting a joke or point, but both the joke and the point already made themselves.
      Repetition is a big part of it so not everyone gets it (like the other guy who replied), then occasionally he jokes by breaking the repetition, eventually just referencing the repetition will become it's own joke in future videos or his comment section. It's a dumb comedy that sounds even dumber to explain, but that's what makes it work.

    • @foreignuser_
      @foreignuser_ Před 21 dnem +1

      @@ch1dd thanks for explaining but i don't remember his videos always being like this. he's always done the voice which i get but his videos used to be actual content not just memes

  • @directerjb
    @directerjb Před 21 dnem +2

    I get it but if we're going to start calling out all the overused tropes in media, we might as well just stop consuming it all together. It's not worth it.

  • @LukeA471
    @LukeA471 Před 21 dnem +2

    In Paper Mario 64 you hit Whacka so many times he gets amneeeeesiaaaa

  • @Bluemansonic
    @Bluemansonic Před 21 dnem +23

    See I'm the total opposite thanks to game theory I actually remember the story of nearly every video game I ever played and yet my finances are in shambles I don't know who's President right now and I don't know who's going to be the next president

    • @richardtorruellas2370
      @richardtorruellas2370 Před 21 dnem +4

      YOU MISSED CELO GREEN'S PRESIDENCY?! You don't even know his running opponent is Gabe Newell this year!

    • @Bluemansonic
      @Bluemansonic Před 21 dnem +1

      @@richardtorruellas2370 I thought Ceelo Green was in jail

    • @NuchiAsaki
      @NuchiAsaki Před 21 dnem +6

      What if you actually have amnesia and the CIA implanted fake memories to make you think you remember playing those games?

    • @Bluemansonic
      @Bluemansonic Před 21 dnem

      @@NuchiAsaki it's possible, I talk to my coworkers all the time about how terrible our world is thanks to Corporations and maybe they got "Fed" up XD

    • @RuneKatashima
      @RuneKatashima Před 21 dnem

      Opposite of what? Did you watch the video?

  • @tntTom174
    @tntTom174 Před 21 dnem +3

    As a meme video it's good. As somewhat informative video it fails - yeah on gaming scene overall it might seem overused, but how many games on his list have you played actually you yourselfs? How many times did a company pull this amnesia thing in single game series? How many times did they used it across single company projects? And he also doesn't mention if he deems it good bad or neutral - coz they can be all these things (Planescape uses it as plot, Witcher basically has no other option coz game series starts after the books in which Geralt dies, etc.). And as RPG fan I do remember many games stories and plots and characters, often to my own detriment, coz I wish I could experience some of them again with clear mind.

    • @parthea
      @parthea Před 13 dny

      Thank god it’s a meme video and not a informative video right

    • @tntTom174
      @tntTom174 Před 13 dny

      @@parthea Yup, just pointing out that tools are often neither good or bad, it just depends who wields them and how skilled are they in using them thus making this funny.

  • @bryantjames6038
    @bryantjames6038 Před 15 dny +1

    Tidus did not have amnesia....he was dead but didnt know he was dead. He died during the opening part when Sin came to attack

  • @RokLinen
    @RokLinen Před 6 dny +1

    In batman arkham origins, due to prolonged and heavy exposure to venom, Bane suffers...
    AMNESIAaaaa

  • @MapoTofu24
    @MapoTofu24 Před 21 dnem +5

    Dunkey hasn’t actually played all of these games. He’s just reading off of the list from TV Tropes.

  • @kurhooni5924
    @kurhooni5924 Před 21 dnem +5

    Damn that could make a good conspiracy theory, they are trying to tell us that we lost memory lol

    • @jf2849
      @jf2849 Před 21 dnem

      Yeah that’s allready a thing our memory is terrible is their excuse for the Mandela effect. Personally i don’t find this to be a legit explanation for the Mandela effect I have my own theories on that.

    • @bryanm498
      @bryanm498 Před 21 dnem

      The least crazy conspiracy since Warthunder being a massive training program to 3° World War tank crews.

    • @kurhooni5924
      @kurhooni5924 Před 21 dnem

      @@bryanm498 loool never heard of that one ^^

  • @HarmlessComment
    @HarmlessComment Před 21 dnem +1

    Elden Ring is the first game I watched lore videos about, I know the backstories and even theories of backstories for almost every single NPC with dialog 😂

  • @courve
    @courve Před 21 dnem +1

    There was a trailer for FFX before release narrated by an American, and he said Teedus. Some people think Tidus like tides, but teeda in some Japanese dialect means sun.

  • @barbs7896
    @barbs7896 Před 21 dnem +51

    Will never forget the RDR2 story. Made a grown man cry

  • @Axel-wo6qu
    @Axel-wo6qu Před 21 dnem +5

    Wait, have I watched this before?

  • @geeoneoh
    @geeoneoh Před 21 dnem +1

    Didn't even mention BioShock, they used amnesia in every game.

  • @ultravioletzombie
    @ultravioletzombie Před 20 dny +1

    To be honest, I don't remember 99% of stories in video games, because, I have... amnesia

  • @stereoNES
    @stereoNES Před 21 dnem +18

    actually good trope for video games tho, that's why it's so common

  • @SerMedieval
    @SerMedieval Před 21 dnem +25

    Remember almost every part of the branching storylines of Dragon Age Origins. From Highever to the Archedemon. Some stories you do forget but you never forget the great ones.

    • @Ryan38475
      @Ryan38475 Před 21 dnem

      i dont think i remember anything from dragon age origins

    • @locmari
      @locmari Před 21 dnem +4

      I also can remember everything about DA:O and KOTOR 1/2 as well. Bioware was great back then.

    • @anon2752
      @anon2752 Před 21 dnem

      Hell yeah, old bioware games were the best.

    • @duhotatoday3277
      @duhotatoday3277 Před 21 dnem +1

      Only remember the beginning and a few of bits in the middle. Tbf DAO was such a slugfest with like 3 enemy types you fight for 50+ hours.

    • @RuneKatashima
      @RuneKatashima Před 21 dnem

      The video isn't actually about players actually not remembering stories. Watch the video.

  • @a-arons4364
    @a-arons4364 Před 21 dnem +1

    In a small fraction of these games mostly the final fantasy ones use it only becasue the main characters having their memories would give away the main plot if they have them too early on. It is an overused trope to be sure and not just in games but tv and films but if used correctly it makes sense and is a good plot device.

  • @meowywowie
    @meowywowie Před 20 dny +1

    I think my view on this has recently changed. I used to hate how overused the amnesia trope was in media. But over time I noticed that the best and most memorable stories almost always used it in some form or another.
    That actually makes sense if you really think about it. People who suffer from amnesia in real life are interesting enough for at least a short story about them only because of how different their day-to-day lives are in comparison to ours.
    Movies that try to stay based in reality or are based on a true story are also good solely because of the amnesia tropes, perfect example might be Memento.
    I've noticed this for well over 20 years now, likely due to my favorite genre being story based rpgs, primarily jrpgs. I see it more as a positive if it builds a solid foundation for an interesting story, and definitely prefer it over a story that is just there for the sake of it being a story.

  • @brandonweaver6060
    @brandonweaver6060 Před 21 dnem +20

    Metal Gear...

    • @TheElectricCamel
      @TheElectricCamel Před 21 dnem +1

      LOL SO true !!

    • @wizrd4154
      @wizrd4154 Před 21 dnem +6

      Making the mother of all omelets here Jack! Can’t fret over every egg! 😂

    • @gangsterHOTLINE
      @gangsterHOTLINE Před 21 dnem +5

      You are missing a question mark. Amnesiaaaaaa

    • @lukeboy61
      @lukeboy61 Před 21 dnem +3

      Shadow mantis?

    • @Dacarts
      @Dacarts Před 21 dnem

      Snakeee eaterrr 😂

  • @fabersoul
    @fabersoul Před 21 dnem +7

    i love you zack

  • @kiteboarding_practise
    @kiteboarding_practise Před 21 dnem +1

    Dude if you haven't played final fantasy 10 already... would love to see you play it such a classic

  • @TheBerchie
    @TheBerchie Před 19 dny +1

    In Dust: An Elysian Tail; the main character Dust has to find his true identity, because he has amnesia....

  • @ianhowe338
    @ianhowe338 Před 21 dnem +58

    Is the point that amnesia is a very common trope in storytelling?
    You could spend 10 minutes whispering in a creepy voice about Japanese games with a reluctant hero that is forced by circumstances to fight.

    • @williamfalls
      @williamfalls Před 21 dnem +25

      Dunkey was probably just doing a skit, but upon doing research realized there's waaay too many game with this "plot hook".
      But other than that, I doubt there's much reason. He just likes to make funny videos/reviews.

    • @LewdConnoisseur
      @LewdConnoisseur Před 21 dnem +18

      I never understood the appeal of Dunkey.

    • @sdbzfan1
      @sdbzfan1 Před 21 dnem

      they weren't even all japanese games

    • @lukescrew1981
      @lukescrew1981 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@LewdConnoisseurWhy are you here then?

    • @JackoWillMakeLives-loveu
      @JackoWillMakeLives-loveu Před 21 dnem +7

      @@lukescrew1981this is his channel? I must’ve made a wrong turn

  • @infernal6969
    @infernal6969 Před 21 dnem +8

    Damn is it just me or is the bass way to heavy and it clashes with dunkeys voice and you can barely hear him lol😂

    • @foreignuser_
      @foreignuser_ Před 21 dnem +7

      dunkey tries too hard with his voice in this video and it is pretentious and annoying

    • @lukescrew1981
      @lukescrew1981 Před 21 dnem +3

      ​@@foreignuser_Cry about it

    • @JackoWillMakeLives-loveu
      @JackoWillMakeLives-loveu Před 21 dnem +3

      @@lukescrew1981relax bro it wasn’t a personal attack on your e-hero. Dude’s voice is annoying and cringy

    • @lukescrew1981
      @lukescrew1981 Před 21 dnem +2

      @@JackoWillMakeLives-loveu Except it isn't

    • @sangroku9840
      @sangroku9840 Před 18 dny

      @@foreignuser_ LMAOOOO OK BRO

  • @crimsonshinobi5281
    @crimsonshinobi5281 Před 19 dny

    3:02 an ad pops up for me.
    'This is your brain when you're struggling to focus...'

  • @realmetatron
    @realmetatron Před 21 dnem +2

    You are in a video game right now and have amnesia.

  • @ShagadelicBY
    @ShagadelicBY Před 21 dnem +5

    For the first 2 minutes I was like: I could retell the Witcher 3 line by line....
    Then I remembered that was the only game were Geralt doesn't have amneeeeesia

  • @ianhowe338
    @ianhowe338 Před 21 dnem +15

    BTW, the reason amnesia is such a common trope in roleplaying games is because you are inhabiting a character that has supposedly existed in the fictional world you’re playing in, yet, when you begin the game, you have no knowledge of the characters past. Therefore, you’re going on a journey of discovery along with the character.

  • @spanian7521
    @spanian7521 Před 21 dnem +1

    Funny thing is i knew the answer after I saw a title right away because right of top of my head i can only remember 1 story that i know from start to finish in every detail and it is because I was so invested in it i feel like i actually lived it...

  • @randomperson-up5vt
    @randomperson-up5vt Před 21 dnem +1

    I can remember the story of many games. Hell I still tell my buddy how to do stuff in certain rpgs he's finally getting a chance to play.

  • @rafaynoman1180
    @rafaynoman1180 Před 21 dnem +4

    In FF8 over using guardian forces give you AMNESUUUUUUUHHH.
    Asmon: That one actually makes sense.
    No, no it doesn't. I mean it kinda does but not really.

    • @SycosenMerihem
      @SycosenMerihem Před 17 dny +1

      It was the curse of using their power. It was meaningful considering the power GFs grant. It’s up to the player whether that made a meaningful connection for the characters. I think it did, and it’s also part of the reason Seifer is an asshole.

  • @desertdude540
    @desertdude540 Před 21 dnem +4

    I blame the "MUH IMMERSION" crowd that demands a complete lack of reminders that you're in a game, even in the tutorial section. The fundamental problem is that your character has always existed in the game world (unless the plot starts with your character being abducted by aliens or something) and should know how things work, but the actual player doesn't know and has to be taught. This is a fundamental problem, and the "immersion at all costs" people won't accept the reasonable ones, like having a guided tutorial that explicitly teaches game mechanics, or having a separate tutorial outside of the main game that you can select from the start menu, so the only way left to reconcile this is to make the PC an amnesiac who has to re-learn everything from scratch just like the player does.

  • @KnightlyRogue
    @KnightlyRogue Před 21 dnem +2

    Donkey is the only one who will remember. He is our official scribe. Because he doesn't have..... *(Whispers) amneeeesiaaaa....😂❤

  • @SirDigbyChickenCaesar
    @SirDigbyChickenCaesar Před 21 dnem +34

    I remember when Dunkey made good videos.

    • @anshuman6923
      @anshuman6923 Před 21 dnem +13

      He still does; I get why this video in particular, wasn't everyone's cup of tea, and was a departure from his usual humor, but he deliberately dragged it out just so he could make a point, by not actually making a point. I do kind of miss his analysis videos though; like video game pricing, and voice acting.

    • @vgc_ivan8391
      @vgc_ivan8391 Před 21 dnem +2

      He does. It just this one a blunder for everyone. It happens

    • @moviestalker2134
      @moviestalker2134 Před 20 dny

      The dude didn't say "used to"

    • @bradleymoore2797
      @bradleymoore2797 Před 20 dny

      @@anshuman6923 The video he made that was completely a black screen with him talking was better than this video. The video he made when he didn't say anything and just showed a series of clips was better than this video. 🥲 This is the worst video he's ever made...unless there's a video I haven't seen yet on his channel.

    • @santman3200
      @santman3200 Před 18 dny

      @@anshuman6923 Does he though? He literally just regurgitates the same joke format for different games. As you said yourself, in the past he mixed it up quite a bit with different styles. For me atleast the last 20 videos or so could be the same, its just so stale.

  • @THome92
    @THome92 Před 21 dnem +14

    How friggin high was that guy 🤣🤣🤣

    • @NuchiAsaki
      @NuchiAsaki Před 21 dnem +10

      Dunkey is on a higher plane of existence. He doesn't need to get high to create stuff like this.

    • @jazzeroo8885
      @jazzeroo8885 Před 21 dnem

      he got high on amnesia haze lmao

  • @Lucky-Seven_
    @Lucky-Seven_ Před 20 dny +1

    What's even funnier is that Amnesia in real life is extremely rare, often unheard of. - It's usually fabricated by the patient or linked to a completely different injury or disease.

  • @ufapmc
    @ufapmc Před 21 dnem +1

    I kindly remember all the history from Megaman Legends and Legends 2. Great games, still waiting for that Legends 3!

  • @justskip4595
    @justskip4595 Před 21 dnem +22

    This video is torture. Give me text to speech from Windows 95 or even AI voice, I hate this so much.

  • @enkerzan3755
    @enkerzan3755 Před 21 dnem +10

    WTF is with the creeper voice in this vid?

  • @TheKippmonster
    @TheKippmonster Před 21 dnem +2

    If you can read a book you can remember a video games main story line.

  • @Musashi_XIV
    @Musashi_XIV Před 21 dnem +1

    "Teedus" wtf lmao

  • @shaifs5072
    @shaifs5072 Před 21 dnem +23

    That video was a complete waste of time.

    • @anshuman6923
      @anshuman6923 Před 21 dnem +6

      You can't even remember what the video was about

    • @ch1dd
      @ch1dd Před 21 dnem +9

      good thing you have amnesia

    • @shaifs5072
      @shaifs5072 Před 20 dny

      I have amnesia and forgot all about the thing. Thanks guys.