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- Asmongold Reacts to Dunkey: Video Game Pricing
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Fun fact: all game prices are set by Wario, 60 is just his lucky number
Makes a lot of sense tbh lol
Yo I thought your picture was a piece of hair on my screen
@@christopher6133
So you're not using dark mode? You monster.
Ah yes, Wario. Nintendo's greatest hellspawn.
@@ozenthelewdable5427 Wrong Franchise *Hellspawn* kiddo
That shit had me dying cause I have friends like that “Jeff would go down and spend 500$ Jeff doesn’t have a fucking job”
so true lmao. Thanks to all the Jeff's moms out there, y'all are queens.
I was reading this comment as he said it, lol
"Imagine spending $900 to play this" (shows basic 80's gameplay)
But this question back in the day was actually
"Imagine spending $900 to transform your living room into an arcade"
100% worth
100% based opinion. The Neo Geo is the perfect example of this. Undeniably a luxury product in the video game market, but it did offer an unparalleled emulation of the arcade experience that arguably justified the price point. If you add up all the years of jamming quarters into that little slot, like any self-respecting arcade junkie was doing on the daily, it didn't actually take all that many hours of Metal Slug to add up to the cost of a Neo Geo. Fuck Metal Slug 3, ripoff ass incredibly fucking fun game, I hate you but I can't quit you, and you know I'm stuffing something in your dirty little slot if I see you or your sister Metal Slug X around town.
@@cattysplat some of them were not too bad in terms of playtime per quarter but I've found it's highly variable per game and of course depends on your skill level too. Some games have these clearly evil quarter-eating randomly occurring mechanics, or planned encounters like stage bosses with nearly inescapable screen wiping attacks that are very difficult to avoid without losing lives.
If I had the money and an empty room I'd arcade up that shit.
The entire reason Sega was so successful in the 90s but started to fall down is because they always focused on "bringing the arcade experience home". If you love fighting games and shmups and arcade ports, the Sega Saturn is one of the greatest consoles of all time. However, if you're looking for more narrative-heavy games or games that last hours and hours in one playthrough, your options were sparse.
So true, that's how I felt when I got my PS1, I was like "I can play arcade quality games for free!!!"😂
Lets be honest,many generic newer AA games or even AAA games are too expensive for what they deliver...but in the same time games that were like 50-70 dollars 2 years ago,that are actually good are like 20-10 dollars now,not on sale
If i’m being honest, considering inflation and increased cost of development for triple a games, it seems like the 60 dollar price tag is really holding back companies from taking any risks. For how expensive development is, their only way to make good profit is by making something that is super watered down so that it appeals to as wide an audience as possible. I totally support games costing 100 dollars or more if it means developers can actually afford to appeal to a more specific audience
@@arseniykorchevskiy1564 But nobody mentioned the cost of making a game cartridge compared to a CD, i think that should have some impact
@@zarendar9732 And at this point, they only need half the cds considering how much digital is growing
@@zarendar9732 eh, that cost reduction is often offset by most games now needing to keep up servers of some capacity (some a lot more than others ofcourse)
Especially for ”Next gen” consoles theyre like 10-20$ more expensive
I love Asmon but Asmon+Dunkey is just an insane combo
It really is
Dude I don't mind the length at all. I literally listen to your videos like a podcast. And then save other ones for the ones I want to actually visually see. Keep it going!
lol yup listening content while at work or out. visuals when I have down time
Same! Perfect for delivery driving.
Samesies!
@@Lawrence9596 bro i do the same thing hahahahahaha
GO watch Joe rogan kid
One thing I think he missed was there really wasn’t any free games way back when Atari/Nintendo came out. When your mom dropped you off at the arcade you would drop 10-20 bucks in a few hours. At that point $60 for a game you owned wasn’t that bad.
12:55 aged well.
should we tell him...
This guy really makes you FEEL like just watching dunkey's original video instead
From what I have seen in the last 5 years or so, most of the games marketing themselves as being $60 almost always are sub par and/or feel empty (not just in gameplay but in the feel of it).
However, games marketting themselves at $40 or below tend to be a lot more valuable and replayable. You can go right now and buy a $5 game that has virtually unlimited hours of gameplay that you can play at any point and never get tired (Ex: Vampire Survivor). Or you can spend $60 on a game you will play for maybe 30 hour (if even) and then never touch it again because you are looking at the new game.
no mans sky is extremely good for the price, i believe it's $40
elden ring
true. then there's the 60$ gems like rdr2
Hellblade Senuas Sacrafice was such a great game and it was only 30 dollars.
Litterally 90 percent of AAA games are 60 dollars, those games can be masterpieces sometimes. And I’d say around 5% to 10% if Indies are actually good, which is where you get your moneys worth. Also, vampire survivors is a niche genre, the reason it’s steam page is so positive because the only people who buy it are 100% sure they’ll like it
I'd be fine with the standard $60-70 price tag on new games if half of them weren't also tacking on microtransactions and releasing barely playable unfinished messes. Maybe if publishers/devs would stop chasing the newest tech, trends and graphics and instead put their time an money into just making a complete product that is actually fun, less people would bitch about the price of games.
12:55 That aged like milk
Oh man! The PT Cruiser, I had a 2004 silver model just like the one in the video. I bought it in 2011, and it finally died of old age in 2022. I took very good care of it, and it served me well. I kinda miss that car tbh. It took me through college, my dating scene, marriage, teaching my wife to drive stickshift, the countless trip to and from work, visiting family, and its final trip, an interstate move. May it rest in peace.
F to a real one 🥀
Asmongold is a homie, putting me to sleep 7 seconds into the video. 💀
Take notes, this guy tucks his friend in.
Time Crisis 2 was the best arcade game ever because not only could it be completed with ONE CREDIT, the developers clearly designed it that way because a high score posted after a perfect run had a gold star next to it. Yes, it took a lot of practice to be able to do this but it was the cheapest AND most satisfying arcade experience. Analogous perhaps to being REALLY good at fighting games and playing at busy times.
This guy knows how to react to Video game pricing
0:21
bajs are juicers FeelsBadMan
On the NES, SNES and N64 a lot of the cost come from the game cartridge. Chip shortages and the cost of the memory(not ram). Games like Earth bound was so high because it needed more room on the cart to store the game.
Why the f does chat mock him for pausing the video and reacting to it? Do they want Forsen-style reactions with no added content whatsoever?
The overwatch comments didnt age well lol
this is: "me stealing other people's content".
It's a bit more complicated than buying power. For me, the atari would have been more like 600$ going off of buying power. It's a good metric to start with but we need more in the algorithm like developing cost, dev salary, company investment. Etc.
$60 for a complete game back then VS $60 for an unfinished, buggy loot box infested game now.
If you ask me that's a good deal
$60 now is like $28 back when the $60 tag was set. If those games were complete, to get equivalent level, you'd have to pay $120-140 per game before you can compare them.
@@Brown614 i still stand by what i say, even with inflation these company now are selling colors for weps or vehicles @ $5-20 ,stuff you used to unlock for free by beating the game on hard or finding stuff in game .will gladly take a game back then vs now. And most games back then had few bugs ,now they release it and you have to wait for these giant patches to fix stuff that should've been fixed on launch. If you grew up in the 90s you know what i mean. Even without internet games on n64 and playstation were great with tons of replay value
@@gusrodriguez7201 stuff you used to unlock by free? Bruh most games barely had textures back then lmao. I don't think people realize how much more work and shit that goes into a game now. Don't give me that "graphics don't matter" cause there's tons of indie games that don't care about graphics and give you cosmetics for free with great gameplay. No hate ofc cause I would love to have everything be earned in game. But I wouldn't expect that at the prices we pay for rn.
@@Brown614 games like mario 64 still hold up though ,also never mentioned graphics in my post. Like all games pre like 2010 were mostly all complete games at launch. Don't know what your point is. My point was games back then were better. Now they try to sell you season passes and loot boxes and the games are not complete.
If games are free I don't mind though if they try to sell stuff. They got to make money
modern pricing would be much more acceptable if the devs were building their shit from the ground up, but for the most part they're just using a pre-existing engine, i.e Unity / Unreal - which removes a LOT of work
but they still wanna rape my wallet with DLC & Season passes
and these AAA titles copy paste most of their shit from Game X, to Game Y and resell it for full markup which is less of a joke than the people who buy AAA titles for full price
edit: also, the lack of quality assurance testing for modern titles is a joke
@@fiveam8626 did you choose to ignore my mention of "copy paste" ?
that TMT brought back some memories lol "it took all my quarters" me too.. it was still better for a quarter than what i spent 100+ on BF2042 25 years later on release
that ad was definitely real, I member it as I was already old, Atari was beyond even the newest systems of today when it was new.
people should understand the major reason was nothing like that ever existed before, it was beyond awesome back in my day.
its kind of like going from a ford escort to a dyson sphere, actually it was more akin to going from walking and the very next day
having a dyson sphere.
like I said nothing like this will ever happened before or really after, well, unless they create an actual holodeck then people of today may catch
a glimpse of what it was like playing a game on your very own television inside your own house.
damn i member black and white television, people just don't know what these things were like to experience.
Dunky is amazing. His nioh 2 video makes me cry laugh.
Depends on the game and system. 500$ is what we make in month. A 70,00$ is a lot. But yeah when you live in a country where 15$ is a coffee it is different.
I’m sorry, 500 a month? You literally get 3x that and more for being disabled lmao
The fact that Balan Wonderland costed 4times the price of Hollow Knight is a joke
I didnt know pausing simulator came out already
I've easily spent over 10k on warhammer over my lifetime. But I've also learned to sculpt and paint, and played at least 150 games, most of which involve a day of beers and friends; so it's been worth every cent. Games in general are an excellent investment, it's an investment in joy
10k? What in the actual fuk ...
@@joshawnard thats like less than 500 a year mate relax
@@bibsp3556 yeah people are delusional when hearing these prices like 10-20k on games. When they spend more on stuff like alcohol, cigarettes, expensive clothing, restaurants etc etc xd Gaming is the cheapest hobby out there. Imagine spending 7k on Mountainbike just to repair and maintain it every month for a 2h ride every week xd
@@TurboGroszek1 you're cracked out if you think you need to repair a mountain bike every month after a 2 hour ride
@@coffin7904 repair or "MAINTAIN" you have to be cracked out not to be able to understand my statement.
I paid $99.99 for a Super Nintendo it had the legend of Zelda A Link to the past with it I was on top of the world
Those were the days, man. Miss em tbh
@@jamestomlin5525 me to brother, as an adult I think it's impossible to get that excited. My 10 year old son wants to play wrath classic (which is when I started playing) so I'm buying him a computer I think it will be awesome!
@@TheMan-ud2wq nice. You're a good dad
@@jamestomlin5525 he can pay me back by honor farming roflmao!
Game pricing also depends on where you live i know Brazil has strange laws and the prices there are global as well, i remember when i bought ESO on sale, i commented on a youtube video about the game where a brasilian person wanted to buy it but explained he would have to save for months
I live in an economically bad place in Europe, game prices are basically a week or 1,5 worth of groceries. so i only buy something if I know i will enjoy it (most of the time) or if they go on sale which are constant on all platforms, and keep claiming the games on epic for free.
For a very long time in eastern europe and further to the east i know people just used to pirate everything including myself. What killed piracy for me was just convienience, sales, and most importantly online features that are interesting - the best example i could use for that is the souls series.
Do you still have the same option with steam for a refund?
@@PatrickDaviswimiwamwamwazzle Yes of course, i think every EU country has that because we can refund anything for 2 weeks by law. Even if you order something else online etc
love your videos bro! I've been subscribed for a while now. Well done!
I'm actually really curious about the future development cycles of games because they need to find a balance between price, quality, and development time. Overall I'd say that the consumer demands will keep rising in terms of quality. This means more time needs to be spent on the game, which means more money will be spent on the game, and finally the consumer paying more for the game. People are already complaining that games are expensive and often unfinished when released, and I feel like this trend is getting worse after releases like Cyber Punk, and the new Battlefield.
Then there are investors who often threaten development if it takes too long and start creating a lot of time pressure (oh those sweet holiday release days). In that situation, a company could hire more people to make the development process quicker. That also means more money that needs to be invested in the game, and the game will be more expensive for the consumer again.
The only game I've seen so far that may break this pattern is Star Citizen (I am still skeptical to some extent). It's the only game I know that has spent this much time and money on development, and the sheer attention to quality can definitely be seen. I know it's a meme that our generation might never get to play it, but even with the bugs it's looking quite promising. Keeping that in mind, I'm happy to wait since it's the most ambitious game I've ever seen and I'm curious to see where it goes. But what if Star Citizen becomes industry standard? Do we need to wait that long for all games?
And how about the MMO industry? I feel like this might work in favor of MMO's because those games are long-term investments that can continue to generate revenue years after launch. That makes the initial time and money investment needed for higher quality MMO's more appealing and I wonder if that appeal will overtake the development of RPG's. On the other hand, I can see that 20 year development cycles might be jarring. I'd be in my forties by the time a game like that would release if they start working on it today.
I'm also no expert on this matter by the way. This is just the way I currently see it, and this has been on my mind for a while!
Asmon, you realize that $500 is a major purchase for most people, right? Many people don't even have that much saved up, and most of those that do have to keep it in case of emergencies.
16:33 I had cicics pizza as the one in my neighborhood! And my arcade of choice was the dinosaur king arcade game! When you beat an enemy for the first time in the default game. After you lost the machine would print out a randomized dinosaur card and you could scan that card into the machine to then forever have that dinosaur as your battler from the start and everytime you beat the first enemy you would get another card. This came out before injustice btw. I must’ve been like 10 to 12 around that time! I loved it! And I witnessed the downfall of that specific cabinet. Because I was the one who found it broken! 😢And reported it broken to to the staff. Came back the next and it wasn’t there! 😭😭😭
the being expensive thing is depending more on ur country economy situation like a 60 dollars game in my country is equal a 1 months salary for a part time job so ye that's expensive
"So you have to spend nine hundred dollars to plays this:"
"NO, YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, THAT WAS SO LIT"
Dude, too true. People don't have the angle of that being the biggest (or close to) technological thing at the time. You throw a fucking N64 in front of me and I can go on about it being the paramount of couch coop.
This channel really helps me to deal with the isolation of my depresion.
Today I was watching an Asmongold stream. I walked away when he was 14 minutes into a video; I came back 40 minutes later and he was only 16 minutes into the video lol. This guy really knows how to get a ton of content out of one video
@Double Vision They could just go watch the original video then
That's the point of someone _reacting_ to a video
@Double Vision imagine complaining about someone reacting while reacting 🤡
@Double Vision Not really
You just made a dumb comment and it got pointed out
Really makes you feel like a consumer. A little something for everyone 9/10
Always thought Dunkey sounded like a stereotypical low level batman villain
If you think Gaming is an expensive hobby, you should try mountaineering, snowboarding, gardening, rock climbing, paragliding, dating or other hobbys people can have. Sure, you can do all of those without any gear, but you will sooner or later realize, jackets, proper boots, safety gear, the ride to the location, training to be fit etc. need a LOT of money.
I think another reason games can afford to be cheaper now is that more people buy them now comapred to old games when they first came out so they make up for the lower cost with way more sales
The problem with $ per hour of gameplay is that a lot of game companies know this mentality and add time wasting content to make it seem like there’s more value than there is.
word.
What I hate about modern games is the price.. They think that if we can buy a PS5 we can also automatically afford 70 dollars games
One issue is regarding just looking at inflation prices, is salary of the workers in that era were lower, the amount of people that could do that job as well as buying is lower. then the follow question is what is the ratio of those people compared to this era
I spent 130 on dark elves, changed my life as I took out
(1500 point count maximum)
Ultramarines squads at 1409 point- cost was over $300 due to several captains.
1513 chaos space marines- they just cost high but everyone let my brother go that far past the mark.
$200- $300
Space wolves 1492 points- yea my friend had two squads and we needed a last guy to fill the tournament so three people had two different species. Cost $300-$500. He wouldn’t tell me the actual numbers but I took a glance at his reciept.
Blood shot orcs(the guy had made his own orc clan and story) 1500 (nobs are op, don’t get surrounded without a psychic on hand or a suicidal trooper with a plasma grenade)cost $700
Needless to say my last opponent was freakin tyranides. With a hive tyrant that could take 20 wounds. But I got lucky since my leader had the agoniser which obliterated anything that it did 5+ wounds to.
Edit: Btw mine was Dark eldar 676 count even with the leader and two basic squads with snipers in both, and frags in both but more for suicide than just for survival if I knew they could not win. Leader had dark shield agoniser, humonculous mask to become immune to fear but project fear in those in close combat. And a pistol. No frag. Minimum paint(dollar tree paint just to play.)
For those who have never played a table
Top game and every roll changed your characters life and chances of survival.
Get some friends and try it out with just paper(literally balls of paper and color them and someone draw a map on paper and each square is like a mini story, do you go forward or split up and take out the enemy but leave yourself open for attacks from reinforcements that could be waiting)
sounds like a smart use of income
My problem is that very often a game will drop in price only a few weeks after release so how does the value fluxuate so bloody much
LMAO, that last part got me, I saw this 20 min vid and made a couple burritos to eat while watching
went without food for 2 days to cover the cost of d2r release for a friend as he had just lost his job. just cause you're a millionaire my dude means your view of money is skewed, me and the wife would save all year (pre covid) to go on a cruise for 2k~ and not be able to do any of the swim with dolphins or anything. I have a comp sci degree and she has a teaching degree but neither of us were able to get a job in our fields so i end up at walmart while she works for the post office. 500$ in one night is insane in my world view as ordering 70$ delivery is a financial decision..........
Please keep doing Dunkey reacts!!
I remember going to Circus Circus when I lived in Vegas (90s) just to play TMNT in the Arcade. lol
"let's pack a lunch" got me good
'Imagine paying 900 bucks to play this.." DOOD best times ever. Good memories.
My mum bought me my first Infected Mushroom album and she liked The Prodigy. My mum was an overly controlling parent (still is) who did me dirty more than enough to break me, but at least she never ever got in the way of my enjoying any music. She now loves Alice in Chains as well. I love my mum.
He paused the video 21 times, turned an 8 minute video into 19 minutes 💀
Tbh , better than people who just sit there like : wow ! Oh yeah , true ,hm aha , great .
@@ajdndbdjbdj Would've been better if he didn't talk about random unrelated shit every 2 seconds.
@@qwerty00008 yeah i know he talked too much too . We can't get someone to do it right eventually XD
5:55 that's usually how I see it. An hour of enjoyment = 1-2 dollars
Rich guy : "It isn't expensive."
12:30 Not really
War Zone reuses assets and code of already sold AAA
as in, all the models and animations were already made for some of the Call of Duty games
those games were sold for full price
and then this very assets and animations were put toughether to make a War Zone
that's a huge, HUGE cost reduction
for comparison, Valorant was made from scratch
Remember when the worst thing about Overwatch was the loot boxes? Good times...
8:55. Bro. Yes you do need to play all of those asap.
We live in a day where I enjoy free games on mobile or on steam more than lots of the $50 games I got in the 90s/early 2000s. I remember that Mechwarrior package too. Friend's dad bought it and it was dope
A licence to emulate could be a middle ground for consumer and company. You pay once for a licence and you have the to get the rom and emulator yourself. Almost 0 effort from the company, but something like that could work.
Mech game was Steel Battalion. Easily one of the coolest things I ever got as a present. The game could have been better, but using that big ass controller to play was so sick
Asmon: I think video games in general aren't that expensive hobby
My brain: I think he probably heard about Warhammer
Asmon: other hobbies, like what, Warhammer?
also, Zack's grandma rocked! had a listen to dracula after a while again because of this
I think it used to be $60. Now they get around it with preorders and support packs before the game comes out.
Sitting here in Australia paying $80+ for a new title game :/... but guess after currency conversion these days its about the same as the standard USD 60
8:00 this early access game seams worth it
This guy gets stunlocked within the first 11 seconds of the video
Back then in Switzerland, N64 games cost around 100 to 120$, N64 was like 600$.
That’s why i always think prices are not so bad today.
Lol good to see mk3 on sale again, man that takes me back. That best buy catalog was so lit back in the day
People then paying $900 back for an Atari: 😃👍🏻
People today when a gaming masterpiece costs more than $10: 🤬🤯😱🤢💀
Dawg, the people then and the people now are far from the same.
The grandma rob zombie story is perfect. Right out of the video.
That Stevie Wonder ad is wild. Lol.
i remember my dad paid $500 for our ORIGINAL xbox with warranty; but the warranty was so good he could throw the thing out of a window in gamer rage and have it smash and it would be covered by warranty. Now if you even break a sticker they try to claim it voids warranty (Even though theyve recently been forced to remove those stickers in canada since that practice is illegal up here; we're allowed to preform repairs if we can without voiding a warranty)
Playing the simpsons at my cici's pizza is a fucking mind meld. I remember mr. gatti's games and celebration station too, they all had the one machine I'd spend all my tokens/coins on.
You know what they need to remaster/ make a new one? gadget racers, that shit was lit asf
I have over 2000 games in my game library and literally have never spent more than $25 on a single game. Including those on physical media. Probably the most expensive game I bought is a PS3 copy of Dragon's Crown I got on ebay.
0:16 he has a point honestly what you pay 200 for a console when skateboarding cost alot plus if you mess up you leg you have to pay for the medical bill
skateboarding has cost me maybe 300$ over the course of 15 years. stop coping.
like my last deck was 50$
People get mad at asmond for pausing but i would rather him talk about the video than just sit there and say "mhm" the whole time like he used to
I sold a stack of comic books that was 4 1/2 feet tall to a boomer at my yard sale so I could buy super metroid for like 70 bucks or whatever the hell it was.
I appreciate the Star Tropics music.
There are games i want in the $60 price range but i always have to weigh up if i should get like 3-5 other cheaper games that are good for the same amount.
Some of the games i play the most where like $10
I've been playing so much game pass content especially with the cloud gaming. It's been pretty decent, though I haven't played pvp games.
Our first Intellivion (before Atari) was almost 300 bucks. Which would be a little over a grand today.
500$ for Warhammer Army? Its sounds like customized (lightly kitbash) Combat Patrol, 2 or 3 squads, HQ and maybe Vechicle and its BEFORE PAINTING
Grandma that listens to Rob Zombie? Now that's badass.
In 1997 my mum paid £75 (GBP) for Turok, the exchange rate then was £1 = $1.67 which today with inflation etc would be $215...
That Stevie Wonder ad had me ded LMFAOOOO 😂
Most of the games I play are on my ps4 and even then I only buy them when they are on sale for 30 dollars or less. I rarely ever buy a game for 60 unless its a game I want to play day one which doesnt happen often or its the latest pokemon or zelda.
If my family goes to dinner one night, 8 people, we might spend about $300 for dinner. This is in a low cost of living state at a B tier restaurant. That's for one night. We bought a switch, Mario Cart 8, and controllers for about $5-600, let's call it $600. That purchase has provided countless rewarding family game nights with no additional payments required. Gaming is many times cheaper than almost any other hobby. Video games haven't even increased in price for inflation, that's crazy.
companies value games with expected income so they earn development cost + extra. problem is, once game gets traction and sells more than was "enough", companies don't reevaluate game price. 60 for most AAA games comes from history of other games selling at that price, so why bother changing
One thing dunkey should update is physical vs digital. I’ve saved so much money on digital game sales.
$10 for the Harry Potter lego collection vs $20 bargain bin at Walmart. $5 for metal gear 2 vs $15-35 on eBay. I can keep going
In Australia all AAA games come out at $110 standard edition
Wtf
@@mili6587 yeah it’s crazy when I see you Americans complain about $60 games I just think damn I wish I could get em that cheap lol cheapest you get is from target, Kmart, Big W and you’ll still look at paying $80 😂
I actually can't believe he brought up Ridge Racer. My first PSP game
dunkey released this video like a year ago that's why there's no OW2 reference or I'm sure he would have :D
If I buy to myself then 60 bucks is just expensive. If I'm buying to my kid then it's wasted money as I want my kid not to be like me. However, I did buy a game and he cleared the whole game in like 6 hours. It was Luigis mansion for the switch. I asked him if there was more to do in the game and he said there wasn't. What was the point? I spent like 600 hours on super mario 3 because I sucked at gaming but it was fun. Same with mega man games. I was an adult when I cleared these games.
My name on XBL is Stagnetti for Sea of Thieves. Never see other pirates references in the wild lol
in canada any game thats new and bought in a retail store triple A or not cost 91 dollars.