COPO Camaro vs Tesla Plaid! 1/4 Mile! Two Rounds! Plus Big-Tire '67 Camaro 406ci! 3 Drag Races in 4K
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December 7th, 2023; TnT at Bradenton Motorsports Park (1/4 mile)
The Plaid is weight-reduced and running on the stock Pirelli P Zeros on 19” wheels. (Backseats and most rear material removed. Both front seats are still IN PLACE, along with all door panels, airbags, mirrors, 20 stereo speakers and subwoofer remain intact.)
VIDEO INDEX:
0:00 Intro
0:21 Bradenton Motorsports Park Dec 7 2023 (1/4 mile)
0:44 Greg Mannarino’s COPO Camaro
1:06 Horsepower Ratings
2:12 Intercooler with 21 pounds of ice
3:07 Tesla’s Drag Strip Mode
3:44 Staging and Burnout
4:27 Plaid vs COPO Camaro, Round 1, Full Tree
6:16 Timeslip #1 Review
6:53 Back on the Trailer?
7:10 Talking with Greg
9:31 Looking for 9-sec cars
10:00 Big-Tire ’67 Camaro 406ci
10:41 Plaid vs Big-Tire ’67 Camaro 406ci
12:21 Timeslip #2 Review
12:51 Talking with ’67 Camaro Driver, Michael
14:41 Greg is ready for Round 2!
15:40 Plaid vs COPO Camaro, Round 2, Pro Tree
17:03 Timeslip #3 Review
17:47 Closing Thoughts with Greg
19:02 More with Greg Mannarino
20:59 Walkaround of COPO and Plaid
TIME SLIPS:
Run#: ET, MPH, 60-ft, Reaction (Tree), Mode, Result, State of Charge
1. 9.222, 149.83, 1.44, 0.024, Launch Mode, W vs COPO, 93%
2. 9.239, 149.03, 1.44, 0.156, Launch Mode, W vs ’67 Camaro 406ci, 90%
3. 9.258, 148.89, 1.46, 0.241 (Pro Tree), Launch Mode, W vs COPO, 86%
Thanks to Greg (COPO Camaro@GregoryMannarino ) and Michael (406ci '67 Camaro) for these fun races!
Special Thanks to partner @LueTubeTv for sharing trackside and grandstand footage!
NHRA ‘Street Legal’ Rules: “Unaltered OEM installed antilock brakes, OEM airbag functions, OEM stock frame\unibody construction, including OEM floors and firewall, as well as all other OEM safety-related systems must be functioning as per manufacturer’s specifications.” More at: www.nhra.com/nhra-street-legal
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This was fun! Thank you Andrew. Once I get my traction issues worked out we will will do this again!
Sweet car you got there!
Watch alot of your videos Greg...had no idea you raced!!! Glad to see you get a chance to step away from all of the financial crap that is happening in our country for a bit!
Good to see you having fun. The ice bag trick was funny!
👍 Very much looking forward to it Greg! Thanks for the runs last night, and hope this video log did the night justice 😃
When people lose a race they always have excuses. LOL, just busting your chops Doc.
You got this video out quick! I was there last night and when this COPO started up you could feel the earth shake😂
👍 I saw your “EZ 9S” and your 9.5 passes, and looked for you around your car, but didn’t find you. Catch ya next time 😃
And about getting this video out so quick, I got home after 10pm and worked on it til about 6am 😳
Had enough footage for a 45 minute video, but had to cut it down to get it done before the 7am target…
@@TeslaPlaidChannel ya next time!
My car has definitely lost some power with mileage (I’m at 30k) which is annoying but it is what it is I guess
My exact current wheel/tire setup was good for 9.3s at 148-150 when the car was under 10k miles, now it’s high 9.4/low 9.5 at 145-147 under same conditions (SOC% and similar track prep with 1.5 60 foots)
But I’m not complaining with a mid 9 second daily driver that comfortably seats my family! 😉
Andrew is such a nice guy. Especially when there is so much ego out on the tracks.
Thanks! 😃 (…and yet another Commenter said he hears “gloating” in this video?) We respect all racers and focus on having fun, win or lose! 👍
Plaid being street-legal is under appreciated considering how fast it is
Just Wait for the 8s 4680 Roadster
@@larryc1616Some day... I'm guessing 2026
@@JesseFK maybe, but tesla forums says first #1000 Founder's Roadster will start delivering end of 2024. No one thought the Cybertruck was going to be delivered end of 2023 too. They said never or another 2 years. I need 8's in 2024 as 9's are getting boring for last 2 years. Tri Roadster = 8.0 Quad Roadster = 7's
How???
Is it under appreciated?
It’s known as the fasted 0-60 street car in its class.
It’s well known.
@@metalted6128 I guess what I’m saying is that most cars this fast are NOT street legal and need to be transported on a trailer. Many don’t appreciate the fact that Plaid is street-legal. They take it for granted.
The COPO Camaros, Cobra Jet Mustangs, and Drag Pak Challengers are all amazing machines! But they do rely on optimal setup and track conditions to get their best times. The Model S Plaid's AWD and electric drivetrain makes it one of the most reliable and consistent racers out there (plus no trailer needed). Track conditions and R/T still makes a big difference with the Plaid, but far less than most dedicated drag racers. Hopefully, it will get a bit warmer later in December, and you two can race again. I look forward to seeing Greg's Camaro put that prodigious power down. With you in the left lane filming the exciting race!
It will take a good tree to beat that COPO if it runs 9.02 again!
(I saw the slip, 153.1MPH, with a 1.37 60-ft and 5.84 to the 1/8th 😳)
Driver mod & AWD is the great equalizer. 😎
The tesla plaid is so fast considering that it’s luxurious and has a comfortable ride while being this fast and efficient. But this isn’t even the plaids full potential since it’s limited to the battery. If there was a better battery, it could probably reach 1200 or 1300 hp maxing out the motors, or even better, we could see a quad motor version. Absolutely insane
Exactly right 👍
I think you might be right: hitting the wheelie bars is unloading the rear tires. He might just need to soften the launch a bit and take a little out.
I always find it comical these cars with race gas, drag tires, and 21lbs of ice can never be consistent or reliable. The plaid is ready anywhere anytime on street tires.😂
👍All good points. But is it as “exciting” for those who want a more visceral thrill? And for those that grew up as gearheads, cars like Greg’s will always have an allure.
We enjoy both: The Tesla to own, and all the others in the lane next to us 😃
They live their lives a quarter mile at a time and for those 10 seconds they’re free, that visceral feeling is just loss efficiency. No one remembers 2nd place if you’re not first you’re last Ricky Bobby.
@@Json9189 seconds now ⚡️🇺🇸
Great video!!!
Great footage!!
As always! Andrew.
Always love your videos!
With your plaid’s slight weight reduction, I’m surprised your trap speeds weren’t early 150s over 80% soc.. Your 1/8 and 1/4 mile times are very solid.
We usually have the first pass or two over 150, and we’ve run 152.30 on a 9.16 pass. (Also 9.15 at 152.0)
Conditions matter: Temp, air, wind, traction, SOC, tire pressure, etc
Your quote
People say they will miss the sound of their engine if they get a Tesla. But you get a different engine sound wirh every race! Lmao. This is absolutely golden.
Because thats what is so amazing and great about it. I love seeing the cars that compete with the plaid. I am a gearhead too! But I love my Tesla. I leave the windows down just to listen to their engines scream! The fact is the faster i go the faster the cars i get to hear!
But only until they get so far behind that their sounds fade away 😃
@2:36 _'ICE ICE BABY'_
If l had to do this to my CYBRTRK....
Great video
In the old days all the dealers under rated
I love this channel ❤️ I had a 1965 Chevy C10 with a 406 small block, my daily driver, in Pueblo Colorado. I ran constantly 1.46 60'
I love that acceleration!
Right on 👍
The Tesla has ice for the cooler full of beers
Your launches have been on point
👍 Thanks for noticing. Practice helps, and we’re close to 900 launches in our Plaids now (and 1001 in our 2019 Tesla S)
@@TeslaPlaidChannelmashing your foot down every single time takes as much skill as what you could train a 5 year old to do
@@jaredproffitt3720 How about 0.000 Reaction Times. How many of those have you got? Any at all?
If not, then maybe the guy who can cut trees has more skill than you do? czcams.com/video/rNBlgvR1R8o/video.html
What tires rims do you use ? Heard 19s were best for drag but I have 21 arachnids
19”s for the win. 48 miles more range, a tenth faster, better launch traction, smoother ride, quieter, fewer flats, longer tread life, cheaper to replace, less expensive up front. We weigh them all and cover the benefits for drag racing here: czcams.com/video/eA9dufNDSl8/video.html
Greg said on his daily podcast Wednesday that you 2 had a grudge race scheduled. Didnt think it would be inli e this soon
We got right to it! 👍
Andrew always cool and collected
Thanks! 👍 Whatever it takes to “collect” the win 😃
Looks like the COPO's rear is rebounding too quickly. Goes a few feet, runs out of rebound, and blows the tires off
Love the grille on the 55😂
If you can get a matchup with the cobra jet and the demon 170 I would LOVE to see it!
The COPO is an interesting car. Love to see you guys run where he hooks.
These Copo Cars are running high sevens at 170 plus in NHRA 2023
Modified ones sure can, like this one we raced a few months ago (ran 8.03 at 168MPH) czcams.com/video/koqEVezOV_s/video.html
But it wasn’t stock. A stock “580HP” 350ci model is good for high 8s in the 150s. Enough to beat the Plaid on a good run. But consistently in all conditions is the key 👍
It’s not the hp, which is a peak value at one RPM, but rather what is the hp average while in each gear that determines acceleration. Eg a peak of a thousand hp which starts the curve at say 250 hp will have a slower time against 800 hp peak that starts at 500 hp.
Unusual versus typical manufacturer ratings where they publish only peak
Lmao I dunno why it takes people so much to get this. But I appreciate everyone who does. Spread the word. It's simple physics.
RacerX is in Florida and just got his new Demon. You should try to partner up with him for a video. That would get a ton of views and should be an epic race as well.
👍 There were actually two Demon 170s at Bradenton Motorsports Park this past week, but on a private rental. First time we see any of them when we are out there, we will propose a heads up run 😃
@@TeslaPlaidChannel nice!
Hey Andrew! Do you have factory brakes on your Plaid?
Yep, although Tesla replaced the brake pads back in January after almost 500 dragstrip runs on the original ones.
The NHRA rules for “Street Legal” don’t allow me to use aftermarket brake components. Must be OEM. (And the Track Pack doesn’t add any benefit for drag racing…rather are a must for road course racing though)
See the Description of this video to see the NHRA Rules that apply to the brakes…
Thanks! What maintenance/repair issues have you had with your Plaid?@@TeslaPlaidChannel
@@pawssspawss Essentially none. Wiper blades? Key fob battery. It’s still on the original Pirelli tires! (18k miles and over 800 dragstrip runs) okay, the brake pads in the Plaid (but our other Tesla went 1001 runs and has 55k miles, still on the original pads)
That's crazy! Thanks so much for your quick replies. I enjoy the channel and appreciate you answering my questions. Have a great weekend@@TeslaPlaidChannel
The money in that copo and he can't hook it lol.
That COPO is nice but you have to trailer it back and forth is a bummer. The fact that it has run 9.0 sec 1/4 is pretty decent. The Tesla Plaid is awesome though. The fact that it can knock off 9.0 sec 1/4 miles and you drove it to and from with no motor issues and air conditioning and power windows etc is pretty fantastic. I know you’ve take some weight out but I would bet it’s still a lot heavier than the COPO. 👍👍🇨🇦
👍 That right, our Plaid was 4775 pounds new and is down to 4600 now. The COPO is around 3800 pounds, for an 800 pound advantage (before drivers)
First of all your Tesla is totally badass..fast as hell, always on full tilt boogie!! Anyway do you ever race other Plaids I'd love to see that! 💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🎉💯🔊⚡
👍Thanks! We’ve got over a dozen races vs other Plaids, mostly S, also vs a Plaid X. Here’s the most recent, 5 races, one finished with a 0.00 margin! czcams.com/video/q010lyj-yko/video.html
Vs Model X Plaid: czcams.com/video/w3OnzNgo7fg/video.html
Two similar Model S Plaids: czcams.com/video/xB1MExuwx9I/video.html
Typical Floridian thinking 70 degrees is cold. :)
Growing up in Chicago, we use to laugh at anyone wearing sleeves unless it hit the 50s. Guess the skin got thinner through the years…
It is in California too. Sunny 68 today 🤭
@@larryc1616 …so chilly I saw a guy in Beverly Hills with TWO sweaters tied around his neck!
Watched him packing 21 pounds of ice dropping cubes into the engine compartment.
Melt a few of those babies on the track in front of the slicks and forget hooking up. Condensate drops could be the other no no up there.
Good points
Considering that he only has 4 runs on the car really shows the importance of seat time and the lack of knowledge about the car. He has a very long way to go with that car, it should be able to tow the trailer and run 9.0. This is the same class car a guy that bought a Challenger Drag Pack kit car from Dodge and the first runs with the car were 8.2’s and he was nothing but canon fodder in the first round as he was 4+ tenth’s off the rest of the cars. Dodge gave him the base tune and left him to find how to get it to hook up to the track. I would think that Chevy would have done something similar with that COPO.
COPO towing the trailer? Not by a long shot…it overheats even in the staging lanes. Not street legal in any state as you know (no VIN and cannot be registered). It requires expensive high octane race fuel.
Surely you were referring to some other vehicle (the Tesla?) towing the trailer. A Model X Plaid would do nicely, while also running 9s (more specifically: 9.7-9.8s)
Ain't nothin wrong w that camaro he knows he can't beat the electric car. He should just admit it
Men The Plaid is the beauty practical indeed in every way 20 times better than that ugly copo for sure !!!!
Gas cars break traction, loses 6 seconds, Plaid loses traction, loses .01
EVs remind me of the dad white new balance shoes; boring but functional.
Hard to argue with that, as the other cars have some much more visceral energy and drama. That’s why we generally avoid racing other EVs; we want a fire breathing beast in the next lane! 🔥
But new balance can't outrun nike's
Hellcats and mopar run 10s because they're carbage , bricks on wheels
We see what you did there 👀
Thought it was a typo at first, but was actually (car+garbage)
This video and the previous video has help me make up my mind to never buy a Copo Camaro! Wow, talk about junk!
An All Wheel Drive Electric car is about exciting as a Home Owner Association approved Drag Strip😂
The plaid is dangerous considering how fast it is without the proper suspension
We set the Air Suspension to low and the Sport setting, plus we know that the combination of Traction Control Stability Control does things that no driver can do. Adjusting for tire slip hundreds of time per second. And applying brakes to a single wheel to maintain direction. These are things that no driver can do, since a brake pedal always applies pressure to all 4 corners 👍
Another poor showing by a strictly built factory race car that can never be registered as a street car, loosing against a a street car that drove to the track. Unless he plans on racing this car in its proper NHRA class that would require him to make a whole lot more H.P. than what he currently has then I would seriously consider putting some real size sticky rubber on the back of that car to make it hook on a dirt road. But do it in such a way that it doesn’t look too obvious like don’t use deep dish rims that scream out “we got a lotta rubber back here”. Do it like Farm Truck did to hide his 14”-17” wide slicks by using a lot of offset on the rims then he had a mud flap going across the back of the of the truck did a great job of hiding all the traction that the truck really had. Just get creative with hiding the width of the tires that’s all.
The Tesla is just incredible and sneaky fast. They really need to make sports car that shortens the car but leave the width, put some huge brakes on it and for the next part they will probably have to go outside the current design teams that they’re using now and make a car that looks like a modern version of the Lotus Turbo Espree. I’m not sure on the spelling but “it had a 4 cylinder turbo engine that made the car quick and went through corners like it was on rails”.
👍Agree! 😃
Tessa also has to charge five times to go with a 1000 miles
🤣 This PLAID goes 396 miles per charge. Meanwhile the COPO can’t even be driven on the street; it’s strictly illegal in all 50 states! Your Comment is so far off, and only reinforces the superiority of the Tesla over the Camaro for actual driving.
If the COPO was street legal, it wouldn’t even go 100 miles per tank of high octane race fuel, requiring more than TEN refueling stops for 1000 miles, while the Tesla needs less than 3 👍
@allenkeiser1718
Best to compare apples with apples this isn’t can hear the gloat
Gloat? We treat every racer with respect and race for fun only
Isn't it boring to know your limits?
As if the inability to make a solid pass after 5 attempts now is any better? (see 3 rematches in last video)
I meant significantly improving your ET... Is there any way to make electrical car significantly faster- say 2 seconds?
@@shotamakarashvili3714There are multiple Plaids running 8.7s (faster than any gutted Demon 170 has run), with weight reduction only.
Although the computer is locked down at the moment, there are other EV options that run faster, like the Cobra Jet 1400 and 1800. And then of course Big Daddy Don Garlits has been running EV dragsters for over a decade 👍
@@shotamakarashvili3714 8.1 seconds at 171.9MPH: media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023/04/13/electric-mustang-super-cobra-jet-1800-prototype-targets-new-nhra.html
Ok, I see. For some reason I thought that it's always pretty much the same ET and you can't go over specific limit...
Try a "COPO 632"... Then see what happens... 😎✌️😎... JUST SAYING....
We’ve already raced a 1400HP COPO: czcams.com/video/koqEVezOV_s/video.html
These guy’s rt’s are terrible
That was a foot-braked 0.024. 😃
Your comment shows you have no actual dragstrip experience or knowledge 🤔
CONFIRMED: Your Channel shows no knowledge of drag racing whatsoever, much less a 0.000 Reaction Time. You’ve never done it. Here’s one of ours: czcams.com/video/rNBlgvR1R8o/video.html
Clickbait video.
🤣 Ha, you got us! All 1800+ of our Tesla drag races are actually clickbait. Somehow we tricked over 25,000 people to Subscribe also. When that Nitrous Drag Truck crashed into us at over 100MPH before getting totaled into the wall, that was actually all just a “setup”. We will do anything for views! We’ll even race rail dragsters and cars doing wheelies down the track. And of course over 1000 drivers actually just “let us win”, because you know, drag racers secretly enjoy getting beat on camera 🎥
🤣🤣🤣
czcams.com/video/qD3Kzg3AL3A/video.html
Driver knows nothing bout cars just drives sad!
Says some random troll with ZERO CONTENT who has never torn an engine down and never even been to a dragstrip 🤣🤣🤣.
We started building engines in 1982 and have over 2000 timeslips in the last 5 years alone (when we started counting). Our experience is all over this channel and 26,604 subscribers agree. And you? Just a rando troll 🧌
Copo sucks
Hey Andrew, have you seen the boosted boiz Honda minivan on a Tesla Plaid chassis? Runs in the 9:40’s. Crazy fast grocery getter!
Actually, we’ve talked to Kyle about it almost a year ago. We’ve brainstormed tire ideas as well as lent him our Nittos. Did ya see our 5 races together? czcams.com/video/q010lyj-yko/video.html
@@TeslaPlaidChannel thank you and Merry Christmas!
Hopefully you get to gap a sad devil 170😂
Looking forward to that! 👍
@@TeslaPlaidChannel race racerX 170 I believe he's in Florida