AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU Review & Benchmarks
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This review looks at AMD's new Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU, integrating their "V-Cache" (or vertical cache) on top of a single-CCD configuration adjacent the I/O die. Unlike the AMD R9 7950X3D and AMD R9 7900X3D, this only contains one 8-core chiplet, and so should actually have some advantages in gaming scenarios when frequency isn't the main concern. Those advantages primarily show vs. the 7900X3D, which ends up a 6-core CPU (with SMT) when using the core parking feature to reduce cross-CCD latency on cache hits. Our review today primarily benchmarks the R 7 7800X3D vs. the i7-13700K, R9 7900X3D, R7 5800X3D, and 7950X3D.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - R7 7800X3D
02:22 / 02:55 - 3D V-Cache Challenges & 7800X3D Specs
04:00 - The Problem
05:07 - Core Parking on 7950 & 7800 X3D
06:18 - 7800X3D Frequency vs. 7700X
07:28 - 7800X3D All-Core Power Consumption
08:20 - Power Efficiency Benchmark
09:01 - Frametime Comparison Explainer
10:51 - CSGO Frametime Plot
11:35 - Cyberpunk Frametime Plot
12:38 - Far Cry 6 Frametimes
13:14 - FPS Benchmarks: Tomb Raider (1080p, 1440p)
14:23 - CSGO Best CPU Benchmarks 2023 (1080p, 1440p)
15:27 - FFXIV CPU Benchmarks 7800X3D vs. 13700K
16:18 - Far Cry 6 CPU Benchmarks
17:02 - Cyberpunk 2077 CPU Benchmarks Intel vs. AMD
17:30 - F1 2022 CPU Benchmarks
18:22 - Total War: Warhammer III Benchmarks
19:02 - Production Benchmarks - Blender Rendering
20:00 - Chromium Code Compile Benchmarks
20:20 - File Compression & Decompression Benchmarks
21:00 - Adobe Premiere & Photoshop
21:34 - Thermal Explainer
22:37 - Thermal Comparison vs. 7700X
23:25 - Main Points
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What do you think about the additional frametime charts? More? Too many? Go for 2 lines or 3 lines?
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As a 1440p gamer - thank you for those charts!
Frame time is important but hard to interpret on those graphs since you are only showing the raw data.
Maybe a histogram would be better? (FrameX - FrameXneg1) / [0.5(FrameX + FrameXneg1)
I haven't experienced a time like this, where its pointless to upgrade, in decades.
Frametime charts are good. We've been used to them as gamers for several years now.
On a different topic, could you please explain the OS contamination in a bit more detail.? As a selfish request, do you know if a 5800X3D upgrade from a 3900X on W10 would have the same problems?
Keep them charts coming.. Great info!
Can't wait for UserBenchmark to trash on this CPU for no reason.
They'll post some kind of indecipherable rant about marketing and CZcams reviewers, or something.
I love UserBenchmark. They write the best comedy "reviews" of AMD CPUs :)
@@alaeriia01 It's like April 1st all year round
“Advanced Marketing Devices” -Untermensch Mark
I wish we had an AI trained on UserBenchmark's rants, it'd be funny to see it make up ridiculous reasons to trash random products.
I like the subtlety of the box grabbing part, where all the boxes that fall down are for Ryzen 9 CPU's, which the 7800X3D has dethroned.
I wish I could say that was intentional...
@@GamersNexus You can say that. Retcon it.
@@chrisfanning5842 he could also call ufd tech to brettcon it
@@chrisfanning5842 OK - then it was intentional!
Interesting how we pull meaning out of chaos sometimes.
You must be an English major.
"...allowing the 7950X3D a lead of 1%! It's massive! Definitely worth hundreds of dollars!"
Never change, Steve 😂
in gaming.
Yeah, for those who also need to have multithreaded workloads (even while gaming, like when my wife turns on subtitles on a film, and Plex starts transcoding like crazy in the middle of "muh gaming", you need the extra cores.)
But all the people who totally will use content creation and video rendering 24/7 and can't use a tiny 8 core chip it'll take like 6 minutes longer!
@@filipealves6602no what you need is a separate server so you are not a pleb :)
@@12me91I do have to say my 5950x is very nice for AV1 encoding we it can take 24 hours as reasonable settings to encode an entire 4k movie…
that massive increase in power efficiency with the AMD parts cannot be understated. I see the 7950X3D as a fantastic option for someone like me who games and does production. Not only is it much more power efficient than the 7950X but its also faster in gaming and barely loses much in production. I think that's why people were requesting a 3D version of the higher 5000 series.
I wanted the 7950X3D as my first option but I have heard a lot of bad things hows it going for you?
It doesn't fact in idle power consumtion which is 5 times higher than Intel... it's pretty much similar for basic web browsing and light work.
@@Headgrumbleoh wow 3 dollars a year!
@@PhyrexJmore like 300 if you're from Europe lol
Cries in europe indeed.
Idle draw was fixed a bit back though no?
I’m glad you included the frame time charts in this one. It’s almost always helpful to have more data available
@@Mrfiufaufou some data is noise, irrelevant
@@SaudadeSunday Yeah when its not in favor of AMD fanboy arguments, the data is always noise... This is the AMD fanboy logic.
@@teemuvesala9575 Idk where that came from. Irrelevant data would be the number of contact points between the mobo and the CPU. I guess it would be fun to know but is otherwise irrelevant to the performance of said CPU. Both for AMD and Intel CPUs it would be noise, for most people at least. Data is data, and it won't be affected by the feelings of some hardcore fanbois. Data doesn't care and that's whats cool about them.
Also this is GN we are talking about, they will use every technique and new data in all of their upcoming reviews so it'll benefit everyone.
This data is significant in the VR space when you need to be under 11ms frametimes
@@teemuvesala9575 where the feck did that come from? if anyone's a fanboy of something, it's you
Thank you so much for showing benchmarks at 1440p!
I was an LTT fan, but MAAAAN, this channel is so much better. The reviews are soooo good and easy to understand, it is not even the same tier. So happy I discover it! Cheers!
Yeah I had to unsubscribe, tech nerds like the nitty gritty stuff we don’t need a big show put on to enjoy a video
@@guccipucci69420amen
To be fair, the channels do largely different things. GN gives knowledge with a side of entertainment, LTT gives entertainment with a side of knowledge.
@@qwormuli77 Maybe just me but I enjoy GN's entertainment that much more since it's based on almost satire-like accuracy whereas LTT is cheap slap-stick in comparison (I know this sentence makes me look like an absolute douche but I really can't watch LTT anymore)
@@johnwayne-ou5yy Honestly, I mostly just agree. My point was about the ratio of humour to brain inflation and not the success at either, but it's true that I probably laugh more at GN regardless.
The 7800X3D benefits some older games that are simulation heavy, e.g. Factorio, Dwarf Fortress, Rimworld (especially when heavily modded), Tarkov, MMOs such as WOW, Star Citizen. Especially when the multiplayer game has zones with extremely loaded locations, the extra V-cache seems to shine there. Really glad the wait is technically over for reviews of the 7800X3D! Thank you for the great review!
i hope GN will do an indepth benchmark with games like Tarkov, Squad and those notoriously "upgrade resistant" badly optimized multiplayer shooter engines... Hell Let Lose, Arma 3 etc etc... they just need to figure out a method to get representative and reproducable results. Those games all ought to be scaling only with single core performance but now with x3d its a different story, its very interesting
They can cooperate with server admins to keep the conditions consistent from test to test... walk a few predefined routes on a 100 player sever in squad or something...
possibly Arma 3?
@@bobalazsgaming havent played in ages but it used to be notoriously single core dependent, would be interessting to see how it reacts to the x3d!
I dont care whether a cpu gives 400 or 500 fps in some old singleplayer game that happens to have a built in benchmark...
I want to see how these cpus handle real world multiplayer conditions in games that are known to be CPU bottlenecked and badly optimized. Those scenarios also happen to be the most challenging to benchmark if you want to do it right...
@Gamers Nexus should accept the challenge
Dwarf Fortress... Sold!
What kind of frame rates you been getting in Star Citizen? GPU?
Steve and team, the new set is looking so good. Y'all are killing it. Been waiting on this review, great work as always.
Thank you! Loving this set. We're still figuring out when to shoot in each location, but it's so nice having multiple spots for a different feel.
@@GamersNexus that's what she said... (love you guys)
@@GamersNexus I am hoping to see an easter egg/ funny meme on one of the monitors at some point in future. Maybe Steve talking in one of them with the sound coming off from the tv rather than the Steve that stands in the current video talking. :' )
@@GamersNexus Need a nice high back chair next to a fireplace for "Fireside chats with Steve"
@@GamersNexus Is there a bathroom you can shoot in for when you review a bad product? Location seems fitting.
All cool with the extra explainer time. Always good to bring new people and learners aboard the tech train. Thanks, Steve!
I love the power consumption data. I would not mind seeing more scenarios included.
The efficiency on these chips is mindblowing. I thought my 5600X would be the last sub 100W CPU I will ever own. And all this while being one of the fastest Gaming CPUs and no ridiculous increase in pricing like in the GPU space.
i7 is similar efficiency and has it beat in almost every category...
Uh, it's a $500 CPU that requires a $250+ mobo and $150 in 32GB DDR5 to work properly. Maybe 0.01% of gamers will buy this.
@@mintymus similar efficiency? 7:56 did you even watch the video? lmao
@@mintymus not even close to the same efficiency lmao
@@sophieedel6324 wtf do you need a $250 board for? a $150 one does everything you need, and you dont need 32gb of ram
Keep going with the frametime graphs. They are far more telling about an overall gaming experience versus framerate. Having both in the review reveals the whole picture.
agree specially if u are getting over 60fps in my experience frametimes are so much more important
Personally I like the inclusion of frametime graphs, whenever I'm comparing hardware and OC data I use FT graphs to see improvements or degradation. I hope you keep them in future videos. Also you can go up to 4 data sets, but you should have them draw over each other from left to right each time you show a new one so it's easy to read.
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I love the detailed frametime charts and the explainers when there's a massive excursion. I generally look at the 1% (or 10%) lows over the averages or peak. A more steady frame rate is better than a faster framerate that stutters.
Agreed. I never understood why people get so focused on only average FPS whereas the lows are the most important if you want good overall gaming experiences.
Glad I've waited for the 7800x3d, the delayed release was so suspicious it stunk!
Since my PCs main use is gaming this is a great CPU
I'd love to see it against the 13700k with e-Cores disabled and undervolted.
@@griffin1366 The 13700K is more efficient with the e-cores turned on, otherwise, forget 3 watts for iddle power load and get the 40ish watts on Ryzen.
@@saricubra2867 I'm sorry, but what Ryzen has 40w power draw on Idle?
@@viniciuslima5021 The 5800x 3D certainly reports 40w draw when just watching CZcams videos, I can't speak to what the Intel does though.
Yes now you can buy from the stinky guys that tried to trick you
Might be a little late but I absolutely love the frametime chart. Really helps visualize how stuttering and framedrops might manifest in a real scenario.
Seeing a frametime ms value also helps infer potential input latency ramifications that may not be apparent from raw FPS
I really like the frame time charts. I'd love to see them more against the most appropriate competitor (or maybe an outlier to show how significant a difference), and then the wide-range comparisons with the bar charts. Great combo to get the full picture!
I like that there's no easy answer between AMD and Intel in this particular segment. Feels like no matter which one you choose, you're getting a great product. I'd probably lean more towards the 7800X3D as I don't use any of that productivity software, and I've been impressed with Zen efficiency in my laptops for years. Another excellent review GN.
450$ for an 8 core CPU in 2023 is retarded. Straight up. Ask yourself these questions: do you have a 4090? do you play in 1080p? do you play at medium settings?
If the answer to all those questions is yes then do you care about 350 vs 400fps?
Will the premium actually pay off in YOUR use case? Will there be any noticeable difference with YOUR graphics card in the games that YOU play at YOUR resolution and settings?
Do you instead play the latest games where more cores do matter? (Just look at the frametime graph on cyberpunk, the frametime is actually worse on the lower core chip).
Do you do any multitasking at all? For the same price the 7900x is the better choice for 99% of people compared to the 7800x3d. You don't need to use productivity applications to make use of more than 8 cores. Just boot up cyberpunk or any of the new CODs. They'll use it.
For me it's the power usage of intel that puts me off.
Yep. I do use some productivity software, which leans me a bit toward the 7950x3d given the efficiency.
@@andytunnah7650 kind of curious if any undervolting is possible on the 13600k myself. I imagine i'd be the best all rounder for under $300 if you can.
@@JoelHernandez-tz3vk Yes it's super easy. I can get my 13600k to run the same C23 score (24K) at 1.262v (vs stock auto 1.320v) and reduce temps from 87c to 80c. The 13600k is also $249.99 now which makes it a great all around chip for gaming and productivity. Easily one of the best Intel CPUs in a long time.
I'm enjoying all these reviews. As a pure gamer who married a 5800X3D last year, I appreciate the consistent AM5 'Stick with your wife, you don't need a mistress'. Long live AM4.
I love the chart recap starting at 25:51. I really hope you keep doing that. With all the data presented in a video like this, it's easy to get lost in the weeds.
Your solder and project mat is the first product that you've made that I'm interested in having. Well done. Looks great.
Love the frame time graphs! It’s important to see for a lot of us that want to experience smooth gameplay. I have not seen any reviewer implement this as of yet. Keep up the great work!
Yeah, nobody else on the internet is doing that. I hope they keep it up, because this is the kind of content that makes Gamers' Nexus truly irreplaceable and in a league of their own alongside Digital Foundry and Hardware Unboxed.
@@selohcin digitalfoundry always include frametimes as well. But yeah, they're kinda approaching it from the other side, like: "How well does the game perform on which device?" whereas GN approaches it "How well does the device perform on which game?" You CAN check out both for either case. But I usually go to DF if I want to know what platform to buy a game for, and to GN if I want to know what platform to actually put together.
The set, the lighting, and of course GN's peerless review process...I think this is your best video yet!
Glad people like the lighting and set!
@@GamersNexus So glad you changed the monitor wall to static images that don't distract from the presenter.
I'm definitely very intrigued and would like more frame time graphs. Definitely a valuable video!
Hardly anyone does framtime charts, and to me that's just weird.
They add so much valuable insight that I definitely hope you continue doing them!
I went with the 5800X3D because on CPU's I planned on skipping this Gen. Haven't regretted it yet. What surprised me the most was how competitive the 13600k was, especially for the price.
you will be good for 5+years imo if you are willing to turn down the settings to get more fps.
@BillyPistocco my 13600kf uses around 80watts average when gaming. All the charts we see of power consumption are max core work loads which AMD do much more efficiently. But for day to day use and gaming 13th gen isn't too bad.
same here man, glad i chose the 5800x3d
I'm keeping my 5800X3D to on my x470 board. My 3rd CPU upgrade since 2018, I might upgrade in another 2yrs, not sure yet.
My 3080 and 5800x3d, still rock fine. Skipping this gen, happy with what I got still
I really like the watt-hour comparison. Surprised at such a large difference between relatively recent CPUs.
Thank you so much for adding the efficiency chart at 8:55 this is the main reason I choose a particular CPU and this information is often hard to come by.
Love that you have the frame time charts. In competitive titles like CS:GO it is very important that they are consistent. Thank you.
love seeing the frame time graphs! always interesting to see imo, would like to see them more often
IT’S TIME!! I’ve been waiting for reviews of this CPU to see how big of an upgrade it would be to go up to AM5 for gaming.
Nice! Glad we can deliver the review!
thank you GN for clearifying that the dropped boxes were empty; that genuinely pained me.
Buying this cpu for 300 bucks (on a microcenter sale), I am so glad I waited.
The reason I prefer Gamers Nexus over any other tech reviewer is the sheer amount of data and how in depth you guys go on reviews. More data is always better for us consumers in making an informed purchase
It doesn't get much finer than watching these reviews after a long day. Bless you all at GN, one of the best channels on CZcams.
Thx for catching the OS contamination, only GN would catch and cover such an important issue review day #1. Great, helpful job.
Great review! What I took away was - 7950x3d is competitive with Intel for workstation AND gaming PCs - at half of the Intel's power consumption. If you don't care about workstation and only care about gaming, 7800x3d is an OBVIOUS best-pick.
This is a good result for AMD, and probably what they had in mind as well.
Power consumption and fan noise is important to folks who keep a PC in their bedrooms - or anywhere that quiet is a premium.
Fan noise on a high-end Intel pulling 250W+ is a vacuum cleaner as the fans can barely keep up and the video card as well due to the heat soak of the chassis, since it's all running close to throttling limits.. once it all spins up, it stays there with all of the fans struggling to keep up.
Is the 7950X3D still worth it? Have heard bad things
He gave the win to the intel cpu but for someone who wants to be more futureproofed the am5 cpus will be better
Definitely include frametime graphs if you can! They provide a much clearer picture of stability compared to averages. Thank you for the review!
I liked the additional data, it was nicely presented. Thanks for quality review:)
Thank you GN for all the effort that goes into collecting all this data. That's why you guys are the best.
👍
I always love Steve's hard hitting takes; no pulled punches here. Also, I really appreciate the frametime data, but would you consider also uploading the charts overlayed on top of the game playing the background? Just find it easier to parse and scroll through for specific titles and lets you fit more products together, ie. see DF's
All the chapters are labeled with the type of test + which game they're testing, makes scrubbing through extremely easy!
@@FAT9L Sorry, I was more pointing out that the way DF does it makes it easier to visually understand how framtimes impact gameplay and easier to narrow down pain points to specific parts of a game.
I use to have specific testing locations for microstutters in Dark Souls 3 or Elden Ring for instance.
@@aj0413_ ah okay, I understand.
Built-in benchmarks typically run for longer than he talks through each segment, so I'm not sure if that's doable. But I would also like to see those, now that you mention it. Maybe it could make for some kind of reference video on the second channel?
@@FAT9L yep, that’s what I was thinking. Secondary, dedicated videos for frametimes like DF does at times. I think how he handled it here is okay, but it leaves you wondering “where in-game was this tested?” For instance
As someone who does data analysis as part of my day job in Quality, the frame time charts are helpful as you have a better picture of what the CPU is doing versus reporting an average value (especially without a +/- standard deviation value). Thanks for adding them.
Steve, Thank you for including The Frame Time! please keep the frame time in the cpu Review's even if not all understand them i DO and i know you know its super important and can make a buyers choice. =)
I just picked up a 7800x3d for $350 after instant coupon and bundling. 32gb vengeance, x670E msi tomahawk,78003xd, and starfield approximately $750 out the door.
How’s your experience been with all the games?
Off topic. I am not sure if it is the lighting or the colour grading, but this video has a much MUCHHH better 'Colour' than all your previous videos. I love it!
Frametime was super interesting, I’d love to see that presented for few titles and against a couple more key CPUs for better reference, say; 5700x, 5800x3D & plain 7700x + maybe couple older ones, 3600 and 9900k, would be incredible for reference of any improvement. Great content.
Thanks for this fascinating review and related comparisons, Steve and crew!
Thank you for bringing in the frame time compairason. Its so important for competitive gaming
I applaud the use of frametime charts. So much more info on how the real user experience will be like 👌
I found the 'watt hour' graph with all of the other CPUs to be extremely useful. Excellent content as usual. Thank you.
you guys have such a good looking set and a damn good visually pleasing output with these videos
I really appreciated the explication on the frame time and taking more time to go through it I learned a bit more than I knew before. Great video
The efficiency is impressive. This CPU is perfect for SFF builds.
not rly. unless you mean SFF builds for gaming
@@probablykeen yes it's what I meant
I love the thorough content! I'd love to see more publications on the website but that is extra time required per piece and I totally get that. To think that I've been watching since before Zen and seeing where we've come with new products is amazing. If I didn't just grab a 5700X this past summer for 250 I'd be chomping at the bit for the 7800x3D for sure lol.
Rip mixed use cases! Thank you Steve and GN Team for another thoroughly informative review!
I’ve always liked you addition of the gram time charts. And I’m okay with more of them, I really like the comparisons.
Enjoyed the frametime charts. Would like to see more of them.
I loved the frametime graph, even if it's only a 1v1 comparison or limited to just 3-4 I feel like it is very informative to see just how consistent they can get. Also it'll be interesting to see how the CSGO graphs change when CS2 is pushed out
CS2 definitely needs its own dedicated cpu benchmarks, as it may bring back former CS players back into the fold such as myself.
@@unholydonuts Tech reviewers are gonna have a hell of a time rerunning all of the CS benchmarks to update their CPU and GPU graphs
@@unholydonuts If they wanna do that they should have a bhop enabled playlist.
From what I'm seeing CS2 is quite a lot more optimized the CSGO despite still being in a beta. Frametime variance is much better despite the small fps decrease. Its also more GPU bound.
And yes CS2 LOVES the 3d cache.
@@tanphan1848 How do you know it loves the 3d cache, any benchmarks? I´m planning on getting the 7800x3d but wasn´t so sure yet if CS2 will benefit from the 3d cache
Echoing others, thanks for the frame time graphs. More of that would be welcomed.
Steve thanks for another amazing benchmark video as always. My gaming is generally limited to flight and racing sim games, which have the habit of being single-core CPU heavy, and often not amazingly optimized. I'd really like it if you'd put these tests forth for X-Plane 12 and rFactor, for example, and see how each CPU performs. Cheers buddy!
Love the plants on the new set
AM4 might be EOL but right now the 5800X3D still seems to be a viable option for gaming, especially at it's current below 300 bucks price. It also offers quite good frametime performance, just not the highest FPS.
BTW: The CPU shown at the end of the video while takling about the 13600k is a 13900k.^^
I'm going to be upgrading to the 5800X3D from 5600X - I feel it's not worth it currently to do a whole PC upgrade when the 5800X3D is still kicking ass
If you already have an AM4 mobo with an older gen Ryzen and you don't want to waste too much money, then the 5800X3D is the perfect option
@MICKUS TOPOLINO IMPERATOR CAESAR AUGUSTUS MAUS This. I went from a Ryzen 2600 to a 5800X3D. The difference is night and day. Add to the fact you don't have to spend money on new RAM and mobo, it is simply a no brainer.
I’m definitely getting a 5800X3D this year. Either when the price falls below $300 during the year or at the next Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals at year’s end.
@@CLfreak246 right! It’s such a great processor.
Frametimes are great, such a nuanced comparison is where its at, very happy pleased with GN attention to detail.
Love the frame time charts! Thank you!
Always appreciate your reviews on hardware. I just built a 13600K centred PC based off your review of it, and glad to see you helped me make the right decision! GN's my go to reviewer if I want to make an informed choice.
13700K build here'; very happy as well.
Thanks for another great review. I do like the frametime charts.
Thank you for the analysis
The charts are fine!
Steve coming out swinging with that opening statement lol.
As an avid FFxiv player, I want to thank the GN's team for including the benchmarks for the game.
If you're reading this: have a very nice day :3
Good to know about all-rounder CPUs, since my gaming PC is always also a work/hobby PC for coding, admin, editing clips with ffmpeg, compressing cold backups, etc.
I think I'm finally learning. Thank you for the education! ❤
I like how the background has been getting more and more lively :)
love the work you guys put in, props!
Edit: I regret looking at the comments, the war has already begun.
Holy moly this is an in-depth review
Thanks! Can't wait to finish adding Stellaris and other new games, too!
No other channel (that I know of) is doing half as much to deep dive into performance of hardware like you guys are. The effort that goes into these videos is kind of astounding.
I do a lot of code compiling and the main game I mostly play is ffxiv so having stuff like this in your benchmarks really does help a lot!
Thank you!
Terrible game, the average IQ of the people playing that game is pretty low. I'd know because I used to play it, but then I learned better
ur mother named u andy bro lol@@AndyU96
If you're going to show fps results for *some* games in 1440p, it'd be nice to see them for all games. Was really interested in the 1440p results for cyberpunk. Especially because even at 1440p, I know the cpu still has meaningful differences model to model.
Even more, 1440p should really be the default now.
1080p is absolutely meaningless honestly.
@@Maxime-ho9iv 1080p has still 60% in Steam's Survey....and in high(er) resolutions its more like we get bottlenecked by the GPU, not the CPU. So 1080p is more than fine, not meaningless.
Cpu heavy games as well like Simulators, Dayz, Escape from Tarkov
Thank you GN for not just hitching to the hype train and for providing a detailed and objective review.
exactly why i'm getting a 13600k. i'm not just gaming
Love the frametime graphs! Way more meaningful than the averages!
Excellent review as always. Please keep the additional info.
Please keep doing frametimes! For people who care about high resolution games or VR, they’re incredibly important.
I feel like this 7800X3D is going to be the value sweet spot ! Awesome Review !!
Thanks!!! It is a very important comparison, allowing me to pick the best cpu for my use.
The new set looks really professional. I compared with the old one and I think either lighting or color grading has improved as well, the skin tones are much better reproduced.
The new look is amazing , i was gladly surprised by it
The efficiency is actually insane on this CPU. It draws 6 more watts at full load than my CPU (ryzen 5 3600xt) yet has like double the performance in games
This is going to be a game-changer for laptops as well, with big performance gains and no throttling. Remember that this also has fairly decent integrated graphics. And just within what a typical (gaming) laptop can handle in terms of heat and power draw. A clear win-win for AMD.
Another homerun review. Thanks, Steve and Gamers Nexus
The studio looks gorgeous! So lush!
If you want to show more frametime data in one graph, you should plot it as a box and whisker plot like you do the flatness testing for coolers. You'll have the spikes show up in the whiskers to still keep the max frametime data, and then consistency will show up as tighter boxes. That way you could show far more than just two CPUs without losing the relevant data like you would if you just plotted averages in a bar chart.
Re: 4:46. The boost frequency on the V-Cache CCD of the 7950X3D is 5.2GHz, it isn't dropped that much for the 7800X3D (200MHz), it just looks like a lot because the dual CCD parts have that higher boost CCD that won't cook the VCache at that high of clock.
So you dont think that the limited frequency ceiling for the 7800X3D is a scummy attempt at product segmentation?
@@mr.dingleberry4882 Not if the V Cache CCDs on the higher end parts are getting similar clocks.
Having V Cache drops clocks because the extra cache can’t handle the additional heat generation that comes from driving the higher clocks that the standard CCDs can run at.
Gamers Nexus always gives the most technical reviews and I enjoy that, it's why I watch here among other CZcamsrs like HW unboxed and LTT.
The addition of frametime is a welcome change, I just have to keep in mind to not look at it in isolation
Nice project mat!!!! Im excited for that!!!
Having the two most interesting Frame Time charts compared to each other is really neat.
I like the frametime comparisons, but don't expect them on reviews of large number of items, they kinda highlight how the software and hardware work with x item.
0:11 i love how he pulls the 7800x3d from beneath all the ryzen 9 parts as a metaphor
I'm always very impressed by gamers nexus. Great work, thank you
7800X3D: You care mainly about gaming, low energy usage, and are fine with the $449 price point.
13700k: You care about gaming and production, don't mind higher energy use, and want to save a bit at ~$420.
13600k: You care about gaming and production, don't mind slightly higher energy use, and like the $300 price point.
7950x: You want the best for both gaming and production, don't mind the higher price point
13900k: same as 7950x and you don't mind the higher energy usage
Thank you for including frame time! As a VR enthusiast, it is a struggle to find frame times on these newly released CPUs. In VR, frame times can be the difference between an enjoyable experience or one that is unpleasant and can cause a bad time. An overall smooth frame time and lower frame times make a huge difference in VR and it's not talked about nearly enough. Even on high resolution HMDs, where even a 4090 is the bottleneck, CPU frame times can have huge impact on not only the games performance, but the overall enjoyment of the VR experience.
John Carmack gave a great engineering talk about this a few years ago.
So much this.
They worse then Intel ones, who would have thought...
I really liked the additional frame time charts. This really is a solid choice for gaming focused builds, with an ability to venture into other things if its of interest. Looks like it'll be a solid chip for a long time! Crazy to see something that does what the 5800x3d does.. but with all the IPC increases. Loving the CPU market currently!