I like the idea of SBC's that are made for specific tasks. If it means cutting costs for the consumer, I'm all for it. It totally makes sense to remove ports and features that won't be used so the needed components can be upgraded.
This is all fascinating. I have no idea what a server is, but I am starting to figure it out and plan to learn more about it all this summer. I am 54, and have procrastinated all my life about learning computers thinking that I might could get through life without them, but that idea epically failed. The good news is I have the basics of Linux distros down now, and ready to move on to deeper learning.
It is always good to learn new stuff! :) A server is a computer that provides services to another. So, for example, a server on the Internet often stores web pages and delivers them to other "client" computers. Or in a business a server may hold software and files that many people access. Or, in the home, a NAS or server may store media files for playback across a network on a PC or smartphone or TV or tablet.
Chris. Not only your videos are informative and educational but you manage to keep them interesting and entertaining at the same time. Your CZcams video are seriously underrated and many people could learn a thing or two from you.
Thanks for posting this video. I had been using a RPi as my home file server, but it was quite slow. After watching this video I bought one of the Odroid HC2 units + 2TB Ironwolf drive and have seen a 10x improvement in file transfer speeds. Bravo!
You just showed me exactly what I want for my NAS for my studio. I'm getting the HC2 because I want a 3.5" NAS HDD. Great Video, thanks for the great ideas, information and the help...
Thanks for the video. I've just got my HC1 up and running because of you, and your advice was invaluable. I can't believe how great this is with an SSD. It's silent!
Soon after I saw your Odroid/OMV video I happened on the NC2 for sale and set it up using your video because they said it was the same as a XU4. Been running great for weeks.
I've built my own home server with HC2 and OMV. I use a 14TB IronWolf NAS HDD, it works also perfectly, with great performance. Thanks for your informative videos!
This video, along with others, has helped me build a nice network inside my Class A motorhome (caravan), which I am planning to use as a primary residence after retirement. I have really appreciated your expertise with all these SBCs which has allowed me to bring an older RV up into the modern technical age. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I use an old PC with an 8 channel SATA controller, running FreeBSD so I can use ZFS. I put all my old disks in there and made two ZFS1 arrays. It needs quite a lot of memory and a good gigabit ethernet card so it can get close to 900Mbit throughput. It is nice, but very power hungry. This is a really neat alternative! Thanks for another great video!
Perry McClusky Its a really neat design. I copied tons of files for a few hours and the temperatures of the cpu stayed always pretty fine, even with multiple access 👌🏻
Perfect for a simple NAS! I recently set up a ROCK64 with a large USB3 HD and I have that running Debian as a NAS and running a VPN as well. It’s great, but next time I’ll definately go for one of those ODROIDs.
That looks great, My old Buffalo NAs is getting old and is very slow, this looks like a good way to replace it and will certainly be a lot cheaper than what I paid for the buffalo.
Hi Chris - I was considering adding a few TBs of storage using a NAS approach. Your tutorial here covering HC1, OMV, Etcher, and Angry IP Scanner was perfect! This saved me loads of time. Your videos are great. You and Mr. Screwdriver give us loads of information in an easy to follow, fun way! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Dear Chris, How exciting! I'm glad you compared both SBCs, side by side. The whole world of SBC computing is really taking off. I want to comment on the audio portion of your blog. I'm going to have to listen to the presentation at least again because the sound seemed a bit muffled. I would almost guess you are using a new mic. I'll go back and check out the audio on two other computers of mine. Best wishes, always!
Thanks for this. Though my microphone here has not changed! :) There is always a different accoustic in the segments where I am grabbing from a computer, due to how that is physically set up (especially here where the PC concerned is noisy), and because I am using the XLR pre-amp on the BMD 4K, rather than a camera. But what does change very frequently is my voice (due to the physical damage to my focal folds back in 2011. I am indeed myself sometimes shocked at how different (and sometimes muffled) I sound on different occasions. It is a constant battle, especially as I also work as a speaker! :)
O yes, I heard birdies as well when watching this Odroid SBC video. 😍 Great SBC, great video work Chris! Thank you! Excitement is contagious. Now I want Odroid in my cloud. 😁
i can totally recommend it. i have my hc-1 since its available. great perfomance for NAS and cloud storage solutions 👌🏻 and using openmediavault with it makes it easy to use even for unexperienced users 🙂
Alfons Siggler Dear Sir, this will be y 1st SBC! All info references media type files only being stored. Can I store data files also? ( *.doc, *.xls, *.pdf, and other business related data files? HC1 and HC2 as well as demo only reference media type files. I am technically ignorant trying to educate myself. I hope to connect NAS TO ROUTER and share storage with iPad (x2) iOS v10.3.3, new HP laptop - windows 10, android phone, HP deskside 12yrs old but fast still. I want to learn to set up cloud with access through internet as second step. Then a 2nd SBC USING SPARE HD IN DESKSIDE COMPUTER. I need to get specs on it and match best SBC TO run that 1tb storage. Write to both NAS at different speeds separately I guess. I have about 20 questions technically, if answered, I could start my purchases and do three projects correctly.
I stumbled across this video after watching your latest video about the NanoPi NEO4. I'm glad I did, as this kind of design is perfect. Gb network and SATA on-board, and a stackable heatsinked design. They've done nice work here with these products.
Well, I've had a chance to play with this thing, and although the hardware is nice, it's pairing with OMV is not so good, really IMHO. With a 4TB WD Red drive, it takes about 5 mins to come on-line, when it does, even with all the settings as per your video, W10 see's the share, but refuses to connect to it. No amount of tinkering can stop the HC2 from spinning-down the drive after about two minutes of no drive activity. This despite my setting all the power saving to maximum power in DISKS/sda1/ - I have lost count of how many times the drive has spun-down and then spun-up again. This is a major deal-breaker for me, as spinning-up and spinning-down NAS drives is a very good way to kill them prematurely. Hell, even bog-standard drives will not last as long as they could, if the OS is spinning them down all the time to save power. The WD Red's are designed to run 24/7 anyway, so it is 'Irritating' that there seems to be no effective way to stop OMV from spinning the drive down regardless of what I try to tell it. To be fair, it might not be OMV doing this. It could well be the USB3-SATA chipset on the HC2 doing it. Either way, it is a deal-killer. Luckily, I only bought one of these things. Puppy Linux on any old PC with SAMBA is actually EASIER then this to get going, and has a video output via VGA or HDMI, so you can run it just like a normal OS, yet it's resource requirements are very modest indeed. Not to rain on your video - it was excellent, as always. :) Just that OMV on this thing is not as good as I was hoping it would be. :(
Love it! I started the H1 with openmediavault but now i use linux booting from the ssd running samba and a web server with nextcloud (dropbox for your own network), yeh it is more work to setup but well worth it and well documented on the odroid wiki, all the latest services php7 ect.
Another good video. Good products, and they didn't make the mistake of ditching the wrong things. I think they are onto a winner here. Thanks for the video CJB. Keep up the good work !!!
Wow that's a steal! Now I have to find the words that will calm my wife once the bill for several NAS HDDs shows up. I didn't even know these exist, thanks so much for this video!
An SBC NAS is definitely a highly considered future project to allow multi-point access to everything from a number of devices like phones, tablets and desktop PC's. It will also serve well as a Minecraft server that my daughter is (worryingly) getting deeper into and with darker ambitions of creating 'Trojan Gingerbread Men' to scare people and also to blow up for various entertaining reasons.
Great stuff + explanations, the only thing missing are a few Infos about Power consumption, idle mode, ... cause it is 247 device running all day + night.
ExplainingComputers That would be great cause I experience over the years an ongoing power consumption increase year by year even after replacin all the old bulbs, the fridges and so on and I assume that my Zero and all the Smart Home pieces connected to WLAN are the reason for that ... and power in Germany is expensive to let the consumer feel the pressure to invest in new devices with higher efficiency ... so the consumer pays the bill for the new energy production goal without coal, gas and nuclear power. Nothing is for free ...
When you insert the SSD/HDD the fastening pins show that the entire board moved. That means the thermal connection/paste could lose proper connection to the heatsync. I suggest maintaining pressure on the left side of the board when you insert.
@@ExplainingComputers Hey Chris, inspired by watching your video I ordered HC2 and put a 7200 rpm WD HDD. But unfortunately when I copy data back and forth, I can't exceed more than 45~49Mbps. Please note that, both the Odroid and my PC (with 1Gb lan card) are connected on a Gigabit switch. I expected at least 80 to 90Mbps on HDD whereas you're getting way better performance on SSD. What could be the reason?🤔
Thanks! That is a very business friendly design. They should do well if the device doesn't have any major flaws. PS - I wish it had two Ethernet ports but you can't have everything!
I love these things that you can build whatever you want almost with it just like hummingboard, hummingbird, cubox, raspberry, banani pi, pcduino, beaglebone, asus and many more
I very much liked the video, its great to see a ready made practical application for SBC's as they are at the point where almost anything is possible. I would however like to see one that could be made into a router with a switch onboard, with the ability to have a SATA interface, preferably not powered as that could be done externally, so its an all in one NAS unit. I also do not like the idea of removing the ability to use a monitor on the device, even you had to find the device on the network. So I guess i wouldnt give it a perfect score and I am glad you were able to talk about your experience with that.
I have odroid HC2 (larger version) for over a year. Recently, I began to lose connection with the NAS when transmitting data through the Ethernet connection. The processor temperature was more than 70 degrees C. The reason is that the processor lost contact with the aluminum heatsink because the heatsink was bent
This is pretty neat... It would be even cooler if they had a version that could handle up to 4-disk RAID configurations so you can have redundancy with your storage server.
+ExplainingComputers / Christopher, These look like two nice SBCS. It is also great to see the inclusion of a pin set for a RTC and serial interface, even though I am used to seeing serial interfaces with only three pins. ie. TX, RX and ground -- the power for the serial interface being supplied by USB (reference: CP2102 USB to TTL device). I would also be a bit concerned about installing a 2.5 inch mechanical HDD on the HC1. From my own experience of using SBCs that included a SATA interface is that usually there is not enough power to fully use a HDD (and therefore would suggest only using a SDD instead). However, it is great to see the inclusion of a 12v jack with the HC2. The only extra thing I would like to see on these boards is an inclusion of a eMMC storage device (minimum of 8GB), which could be used as a bootable system drive (ie. boot, root and swap partitions).
Nope, its totally fine to use a HDD with the HC-1. Im using it with a 5TB Seagte HDD without having any issues. Of course you need a proper power supply and then it works fine 👌🏻 Edit: EMMC would be nice but these devices are made to use with openmediavault (or anything similar), so there wont be many read/ write on the sd card :)
An alternative option to find the SBC's (or any device for that matter) local LAN IP is to go into your router's config interface under "Attached Devices" or something similarly named, usually. This can also be handy if all you know is a MAC address for a device.
What's funny is - the openmediavault boot sequence contains a message to the tune of : "Raspberry pi is a SLOW NAS. it sucks- read THIS:" - with a link to a thread discussing how everything is better than an RPi for nas use. :D
By mistake I reset my router and couldn't find the setup page. (ip changed) thanks to Angry IP Scanner found back router ip. Done. Thanks. By the way good video ... again.
Very good episode Mr. Barnatt. I was expecting to see a head-to-head comparison for both configurations of the Odroid but I guess I will have to wait for the next episode. Are you aware of any accessory kits specifically for the Pi 3Bb that have come on the market as of yet? Now that Odroid has come out with a more powerful sbc I sincerely hope that come next Pi day we will see a Pi with a True Gigabit Ethernet port and with some port faster than USB2. Thank you for your excellent series. Here in the states, I look forward to Sundays when I can see a new episode that you have launched. Cheers.
Thank you for another _very_ informative video, Chris! I noticed that this video was published almost exactly a year ago today (April 22, 2018)! Have you made the sequel to this video (comparing OMV to other storage appliances) yet? That kinda, again!
After watching your SBC NAS comparison video ("SBC NAS Group Test") I bought a Pine64 Rock64 (with the Sabrent USB3-SATA3 adapter and a Samsung 850Pro SATA3 SSD) and am just getting started with setting that up. But _now_ I've got to go buy an HC1 to compare! ;)
I am just impressed with this little board so i instantly buyed one. But the downside is the high import/shipping cost. In Euro i have to pay 45 Euro for the SBC and the Power supply. Plus 17 Euro shipping and 19% tax it cost round about 74 Euro. But, what the hell, i like it.😀
I hope that you enjoy your new board! Sorry about the shipping/etc. These things add up I know. But it really is a cool little board, and so different from other SBCs.
Buy it at a local seller. I bought my hc-1 from "Pollin" (germany) for 59€; without power supply. And its better if u have any issues with the board... Idk if u get a replacement from korea then :p
Hi Christopher, great and informative video :-) But i'm missing one thing only. The measuring of the power draw and if that NAS is able to get into a standby-mode, if you didn't access it for a while. I wish you a good start into the new week.
Thanks for this -- and good point! :) I am currently trying to set up a reliable rig for testing the power consumption of any SBC, and will be using it in a group test fairly soon! :)
It doesnt have a standby mode, its always 'on'. it can only turn off the HDD, there are many setting for that (after xxx minutes, if the ip(s) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx arent online anymore, ...) i didnt measure the consumption while its doing nothing but i guess it wont be more than 3W or so (if you have an efficient power supply). maybe its even less :)
I like the general idea of NAS use, and the fact that its getting really unexpensive. Im only curious how well it would perform being turned on for a very long time, since its a small unit. Also, was the password "hello" this time ?
Aw darn, I was hoping the HC2 would allow for 2 drives to be loaded in for RAID mirroring configurations. I'd love to be able to have a portable ZFS mirror for quick movement of files from my home ZFS array to my backup ZFS array. Sometimes you just have too much data to easily synchronize through the net.
@@midimike72 Thanks for the info. I might consider one of those sometime. I ultimately just synced everything over the net with ssh tunneling and syncoid though instead of going the offline route.
should perform good, but i think it would be best to have your client set the actual plex settings to always play original quality, this way your tiny board isn't having to transcode.
It would probably work well but I think I would run it as a straight NAS to hold the videos and use a second SBC to run the streaming service. With a dedicated SBC to Host the service it could potentially run allot smoother.
I like the idea of SBC's that are made for specific tasks. If it means cutting costs for the consumer, I'm all for it. It totally makes sense to remove ports and features that won't be used so the needed components can be upgraded.
This is all fascinating.
I have no idea what a server is, but I am starting to figure it out and plan to learn more about it all this summer. I am 54, and have procrastinated all my life about learning computers thinking that I might could get through life without them, but that idea epically failed. The good news is I have the basics of Linux distros down now, and ready to move on to deeper learning.
It is always good to learn new stuff! :) A server is a computer that provides services to another. So, for example, a server on the Internet often stores web pages and delivers them to other "client" computers. Or in a business a server may hold software and files that many people access. Or, in the home, a NAS or server may store media files for playback across a network on a PC or smartphone or TV or tablet.
Chris. Not only your videos are informative and educational but you manage to keep them interesting and entertaining at the same time. Your CZcams video are seriously underrated and many people could learn a thing or two from you.
Thanks.
Thoroughly explained, seems to be a useful device at the right price
Free Saxon It is 😉 using it for a few months now with openmediavault... works perfect, great performance and easy to set up and use 😊
Alfons Siggler good to have that sort of feedback from someone who's been using one
Thanks for posting this video. I had been using a RPi as my home file server, but it was quite slow. After watching this video I bought one of the Odroid HC2 units + 2TB Ironwolf drive and have seen a 10x improvement in file transfer speeds. Bravo!
Excellent! Thanks for sharing your positive experience here! A very useful performance improvement!
You just showed me exactly what I want for my NAS for my studio. I'm getting the HC2 because I want a 3.5" NAS HDD. Great Video, thanks for the great ideas, information and the help...
Thanks for the video. I've just got my HC1 up and running because of you, and your advice was invaluable. I can't believe how great this is with an SSD. It's silent!
Excellent! Thanks for the feedback. This is what CZcams is about! :)
Soon after I saw your Odroid/OMV video I happened on the NC2 for sale and set it up using your video because they said it was the same as a XU4. Been running great for weeks.
This is great to hear! I'm glad it worked out for you.
I've built my own home server with HC2 and OMV. I use a 14TB IronWolf NAS HDD, it works also perfectly, with great performance. Thanks for your informative videos!
Great to hear. The HC1 and HC2 remain my favourite NAS SBCs. Such a great design.
This video, along with others, has helped me build a nice network inside my Class A motorhome (caravan), which I am planning to use as a primary residence after retirement. I have really appreciated your expertise with all these SBCs which has allowed me to bring an older RV up into the modern technical age. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Great to hear -- sounds like you've undertaken a fantastic project. :)
Just realized this thing was made in my country..... Kinda weird to realize this in the most british youtube channel I know of.....
국뽕에 취한다...
South Korea can make some really cool hardware. More companies should setup there, better than setting up in China, that's for sure.
I use an old PC with an 8 channel SATA controller, running FreeBSD so I can use ZFS. I put all my old disks in there and made two ZFS1 arrays. It needs quite a lot of memory and a good gigabit ethernet card so it can get close to 900Mbit throughput. It is nice, but very power hungry.
This is a really neat alternative! Thanks for another great video!
Hooray - We're _always_ excited to see Mr. Screwdriver (@9:02)!
😋
this is a very useful system and excellent price for HC1 love the stack feature ,getting 3 for my project this made my year and looks really cool
Love my Plex server running on the Xu4.
I just got a pi3+ with OMV and a USB hard drive this week for this purpose. This changes my plans!
This is actually pretty cool. Sbc are actually very neat.
Thank you, Chris. I've been waiting for this video, since you promised it, a month ago.
I always get there in the end!
The combination heat sink and case packages the board and drive nicely together.
Perry McClusky Its a really neat design. I copied tons of files for a few hours and the temperatures of the cpu stayed always pretty fine, even with multiple access 👌🏻
Impressive
Alfons Siggler 😀
Perfect for a simple NAS! I recently set up a ROCK64 with a large USB3 HD and I have that running Debian as a NAS and running a VPN as well. It’s great, but next time I’ll definately go for one of those ODROIDs.
So many options these days!
That looks great, My old Buffalo NAs is getting old and is very slow, this looks like a good way to replace it and will certainly be a lot cheaper than what I paid for the buffalo.
Just ordered my HC2. Planning of building a nice seedbox with openmediavault. Thank you for the review.
Excellent. The HC2 is a nice device for running OMV. Good luck with it! :)
Hi Chris - I was considering adding a few TBs of storage using a NAS approach. Your tutorial here covering HC1, OMV, Etcher, and Angry IP Scanner was perfect! This saved me loads of time. Your videos are great. You and Mr. Screwdriver give us loads of information in an easy to follow, fun way! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks for this -- and good luck with your storage!
Awesome, I like that one with the 3.5" drive. I wanted to use Firecuda 2TB HDD for my NAS and that fits the build. Very good, thanks...
Dear Chris, How exciting! I'm glad you compared both SBCs, side by side. The whole world of SBC computing is really taking off. I want to comment on the audio portion of your blog. I'm going to have to listen to the presentation at least again because the sound seemed a bit muffled. I would almost guess you are using a new mic. I'll go back and check out the audio on two other computers of mine. Best wishes, always!
Thanks for this. Though my microphone here has not changed! :) There is always a different accoustic in the segments where I am grabbing from a computer, due to how that is physically set up (especially here where the PC concerned is noisy), and because I am using the XLR pre-amp on the BMD 4K, rather than a camera. But what does change very frequently is my voice (due to the physical damage to my focal folds back in 2011. I am indeed myself sometimes shocked at how different (and sometimes muffled) I sound on different occasions. It is a constant battle, especially as I also work as a speaker! :)
Thanks for this, very detailed and put me off trying a raspberry pi nas with your handy stats.
O yes, I heard birdies as well when watching this Odroid SBC video. 😍
Great SBC, great video work Chris!
Thank you!
Excitement is contagious. Now I want Odroid in my cloud. 😁
i can totally recommend it. i have my hc-1 since its available. great perfomance for NAS and cloud storage solutions 👌🏻
and using openmediavault with it makes it easy to use even for unexperienced users 🙂
That's great!
The way I started, after a while I'll have room full of SBC NASes.
Although 'having enough cloud storage' is unknown term to me. 🤔🤣
Alfons Siggler Dear Sir, this will be y 1st SBC! All info references media type files only being stored. Can I store data files also? ( *.doc, *.xls, *.pdf, and other business related data files? HC1 and HC2 as well as demo only reference media type files. I am technically ignorant trying to educate myself. I hope to connect NAS TO ROUTER and share storage with iPad (x2) iOS v10.3.3, new HP laptop - windows 10, android phone, HP deskside 12yrs old but fast still. I want to learn to set up cloud with access through internet as second step. Then a 2nd SBC USING SPARE HD IN DESKSIDE COMPUTER. I need to get specs on it and match best SBC TO run that 1tb storage. Write to both NAS at different speeds separately I guess.
I have about 20 questions technically, if answered, I could start my purchases and do three projects correctly.
How do you setup a cloud? Through your home isp?
Great little video as always. Gave me a few ideas to set one up at home. Just got an external HDD pluged in my pi at the moment for media.
I stumbled across this video after watching your latest video about the NanoPi NEO4. I'm glad I did, as this kind of design is perfect. Gb network and SATA on-board, and a stackable heatsinked design. They've done nice work here with these products.
Well, I've had a chance to play with this thing, and although the hardware is nice, it's pairing with OMV is not so good, really IMHO. With a 4TB WD Red drive, it takes about 5 mins to come on-line, when it does, even with all the settings as per your video, W10 see's the share, but refuses to connect to it. No amount of tinkering can stop the HC2 from spinning-down the drive after about two minutes of no drive activity. This despite my setting all the power saving to maximum power in DISKS/sda1/ - I have lost count of how many times the drive has spun-down and then spun-up again. This is a major deal-breaker for me, as spinning-up and spinning-down NAS drives is a very good way to kill them prematurely. Hell, even bog-standard drives will not last as long as they could, if the OS is spinning them down all the time to save power. The WD Red's are designed to run 24/7 anyway, so it is 'Irritating' that there seems to be no effective way to stop OMV from spinning the drive down regardless of what I try to tell it. To be fair, it might not be OMV doing this. It could well be the USB3-SATA chipset on the HC2 doing it. Either way, it is a deal-killer. Luckily, I only bought one of these things. Puppy Linux on any old PC with SAMBA is actually EASIER then this to get going, and has a video output via VGA or HDMI, so you can run it just like a normal OS, yet it's resource requirements are very modest indeed. Not to rain on your video - it was excellent, as always. :) Just that OMV on this thing is not as good as I was hoping it would be. :(
Great video again Chris. As someone else mentioned, try Fing out. I love it. I also have a Fing Device connected to my network too.
Great video as always. I'd definitely be interested in seeing another video on these
Wish i knew of hc1 sooner. I built a NAS out of nanoPI, costed me more and bulkier. But its a good built. Thanks for this video.
Love it! I started the H1 with openmediavault but now i use linux booting from the ssd running samba and a web server with nextcloud (dropbox for your own network), yeh it is more work to setup but well worth it and well documented on the odroid wiki, all the latest services php7 ect.
Thanks for this, it is really great to hear that you have done this. I can feel another project and video coming on! :)
Yep, I heard the birdies :-) Great video as always Chris. Thank you
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Another good video. Good products, and they didn't make the mistake of ditching the wrong things. I think they are onto a winner here. Thanks for the video CJB. Keep up the good work !!!
Thanks.
As usual, another great and insightful video. Thank You!
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Wow that's a steal! Now I have to find the words that will calm my wife once the bill for several NAS HDDs shows up. I didn't even know these exist, thanks so much for this video!
Good luck calming your wife! :)
An SBC NAS is definitely a highly considered future project to allow multi-point access to everything from a number of devices like phones, tablets and desktop PC's.
It will also serve well as a Minecraft server that my daughter is (worryingly) getting deeper into and with darker ambitions of creating 'Trojan Gingerbread Men' to scare people and also to blow up for various entertaining reasons.
Brilliant. I love this channel.
Excellent!
T Riddle agreed it is the best thing on CZcams
Thanks for the awesome video. I think I might get one of Odroid SBC give this a try myself.
Great stuff + explanations, the only thing missing are a few Infos about Power consumption, idle mode, ... cause it is 247 device running all day + night.
Good point -- I will be running a range of SBC power consumption tests in a video fairly soon.
ExplainingComputers That would be great cause I experience over the years an ongoing power consumption increase year by year even after replacin all the old bulbs, the fridges and so on and I assume that my Zero and all the Smart Home pieces connected to WLAN are the reason for that ... and power in Germany is expensive to let the consumer feel the pressure to invest in new devices with higher efficiency ... so the consumer pays the bill for the new energy production goal without coal, gas and nuclear power. Nothing is for free ...
Just what I was looking for! Thanks! Looks promising
Another excellent and informative video, some of this may come in handy - thanks once again.
:)
When you insert the SSD/HDD the fastening pins show that the entire board moved. That means the thermal connection/paste could lose proper connection to the heatsync. I suggest maintaining pressure on the left side of the board when you insert.
Very true, you are right. It would be best to hold the board when adding or removing a drive.. I only noticed this when I was editing the video!
Greg Adams yeah I noticed that. Cringed a little. Those stand-offs are too small diameter me thinks.
Greg Adams shhhhh!
@@ExplainingComputers Hey Chris, inspired by watching your video I ordered HC2 and put a 7200 rpm WD HDD. But unfortunately when I copy data back and forth, I can't exceed more than 45~49Mbps. Please note that, both the Odroid and my PC (with 1Gb lan card) are connected on a Gigabit switch. I expected at least 80 to 90Mbps on HDD whereas you're getting way better performance on SSD. What could be the reason?🤔
If you still have access to the HC2, can you please do a speed test with HDD and share the results? Thanks a lot.
Thanks so much. I am running a Synology ds213 which is pretty good. I may buy the two drive Odroid to replace it. The software seems a lot simpler.
Thanks! That is a very business friendly design. They should do well if the device doesn't have any major flaws.
PS - I wish it had two Ethernet ports but you can't have everything!
I think you can stack multiple units on top of each other, and connect them via a router.
I want to run a firewall through it.
Usb to ethernet should work, but you will get at most a third of gigabit speeds
Thanks it was a excelente and usefull video there. I will put my hands on that proyect soon. Thanks again!
I love these things that you can build whatever you want almost with it just like hummingboard, hummingbird, cubox, raspberry, banani pi, pcduino, beaglebone, asus and many more
Interesting how powerful these SBC's can be
I do like that, maybe time to upgrade my Ri-2 Server. Thanks, Chris very exciting this week.
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Great review as always Chris.
Very cool and another great video Chris
Great video again. It would be interesting to see if a RAID NAS could be built using SBC's, similar to my 4 bay Synology.
_You could_ - But you would be constrained by the number of physical interfaces to attach the HDD's to (1). (Doh!)
5:28 My OCD sense is tingling! "There's only one screw hole! There's only one screw hole!! *There's only one screw hole* !!!!" ;-)
So tempted to go nas vs old usb nd looks like perfect solution.
Wonderful! Nice video Chris. 👍🏼
Jumped back here after seeing the HC-3 build... :)
You sounded really excited during the un-boxing
Indeed! It was quite a different kind of SBC unboxing! I always try to do them live in one-take so you get my true reaction!
I very much liked the video, its great to see a ready made practical application for SBC's as they are at the point where almost anything is possible. I would however like to see one that could be made into a router with a switch onboard, with the ability to have a SATA interface, preferably not powered as that could be done externally, so its an all in one NAS unit. I also do not like the idea of removing the ability to use a monitor on the device, even you had to find the device on the network. So I guess i wouldnt give it a perfect score and I am glad you were able to talk about your experience with that.
Nice transfer speed.
Great video for a really nice SBC !
I have odroid HC2 (larger version) for over a year. Recently, I began to lose connection with the NAS when transmitting data through the Ethernet connection. The processor temperature was more than 70 degrees C. The reason is that the processor lost contact with the aluminum heatsink because the heatsink was bent
Great video as always. Thanks and I think I need an ODROID. :)
This is pretty neat... It would be even cooler if they had a version that could handle up to 4-disk RAID configurations so you can have redundancy with your storage server.
True -- they do make a case and add-on board kit for an XU4 that allows connection of two 3.5" SATA drives.
That's pretty cool! Might have to toy around with a few of these at some point
+ExplainingComputers / Christopher,
These look like two nice SBCS. It is also great to see the inclusion of a pin set for a RTC and serial interface, even though I am used to seeing serial interfaces with only three pins. ie. TX, RX and ground -- the power for the serial interface being supplied by USB (reference: CP2102 USB to TTL device).
I would also be a bit concerned about installing a 2.5 inch mechanical HDD on the HC1. From my own experience of using SBCs that included a SATA interface is that usually there is not enough power to fully use a HDD (and therefore would suggest only using a SDD instead). However, it is great to see the inclusion of a 12v jack with the HC2.
The only extra thing I would like to see on these boards is an inclusion of a eMMC storage device (minimum of 8GB), which could be used as a bootable system drive (ie. boot, root and swap partitions).
Hi Mark. I thought you would like the serial interface! :) Some eMMC would indeed be great for the OS.
Nope, its totally fine to use a HDD with the HC-1. Im using it with a 5TB Seagte HDD without having any issues.
Of course you need a proper power supply and then it works fine 👌🏻
Edit: EMMC would be nice but these devices are made to use with openmediavault (or anything similar), so there wont be many read/ write on the sd card :)
We're only missing a video for the CloudShell 2 with the XU4, their NAS dyi kit
Just 'mastered' the Pi4b NAS vid and I find this! There aren't enough hours in the day. Or maybe there is now Coronavirus is upon us. Stay safe all.
All they need now is a SBC with 10gig ethernet (RJ45 and sfp+), sata3 + m.2 nvme and USB 3.1 :)
Yes, those specs would be nice! :)
www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h2/
Close enough?
That price is amazing, I've seen heatsinks that size selling for $20....
An alternative option to find the SBC's (or any device for that matter) local LAN IP is to go into your router's config interface under "Attached Devices" or something similarly named, usually. This can also be handy if all you know is a MAC address for a device.
Agreed -- I did briefly mention this in the video! :)
What's funny is - the openmediavault boot sequence contains a message to the tune of : "Raspberry pi is a SLOW NAS. it sucks- read THIS:" - with a link to a thread discussing how everything is better than an RPi for nas use. :D
By mistake I reset my router and couldn't find the setup page. (ip changed) thanks to Angry IP Scanner found back router ip. Done. Thanks. By the way good video ... again.
Well, I could listen to that little birdie :)
Thank you! It's very very interesting!
I have 12TB openmediavault on Rpi3 and an XU4 running ORA Retropie. moving the NAS to another XU4 or HC2 based on this!
Very cool setups. :)
I've used _Angry IP Scanner_ for years. It's good. You could also try _Fing_ for Android.
I will checkout Fing.
Fing is pretty awesome too
Another Fing user here. Very convenient since you don't have to be at a PC.
Net Analyzer on iOS is free and good, been using it for years
Yes, Fing is a great choice.
Chris, thanks for this video!
You are welcome Sir! :)
Thank you for the video 👍🏻
Very good episode Mr. Barnatt. I was expecting to see a head-to-head comparison for both configurations of the Odroid but I guess I will have to wait for the next episode. Are you aware of any accessory kits specifically for the Pi 3Bb that have come on the market as of yet? Now that Odroid has come out with a more powerful sbc I sincerely hope that come next Pi day we will see a Pi with a True Gigabit Ethernet port and with some port faster than USB2. Thank you for your excellent series. Here in the states, I look forward to Sundays when I can see a new episode that you have launched. Cheers.
Dang you gotta be quick. :( no mister scissors. Great info as always. Thanks from Orlando.
You have -- so close you were!
Awesome kit 👍
Looking 👀 Good Chris!
If that had PoE i can see that being stuper usefull for me .
Andrew Joy You can get a simple gigabit PoE injector/splitter kit
Thank you for another _very_ informative video, Chris!
I noticed that this video was published almost exactly a year ago today (April 22, 2018)! Have you made the sequel to this video (comparing OMV to other storage appliances) yet?
That kinda, again!
After watching your SBC NAS comparison video ("SBC NAS Group Test") I bought a Pine64 Rock64 (with the Sabrent USB3-SATA3 adapter and a Samsung 850Pro SATA3 SSD) and am just getting started with setting that up. But _now_ I've got to go buy an HC1 to compare! ;)
I am just impressed with this little board so i instantly buyed one. But the downside is the high import/shipping cost. In Euro i have to pay 45 Euro for the SBC and the Power supply. Plus 17 Euro shipping and 19% tax it cost round about 74 Euro. But, what the hell, i like it.😀
I hope that you enjoy your new board! Sorry about the shipping/etc. These things add up I know. But it really is a cool little board, and so different from other SBCs.
Buy it at a local seller. I bought my hc-1 from "Pollin" (germany) for 59€; without power supply.
And its better if u have any issues with the board... Idk if u get a replacement from korea then :p
I’m very interested to see what else you’ll be doing with these machines!
:)
Hi Christopher,
great and informative video :-)
But i'm missing one thing only. The measuring of the power draw and if that NAS is able to get into a standby-mode, if you didn't access it for a while.
I wish you a good start into the new week.
Thanks for this -- and good point! :) I am currently trying to set up a reliable rig for testing the power consumption of any SBC, and will be using it in a group test fairly soon! :)
Great! Thanks for the quick answer :)
It doesnt have a standby mode, its always 'on'. it can only turn off the HDD, there are many setting for that (after xxx minutes, if the ip(s) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx arent online anymore, ...)
i didnt measure the consumption while its doing nothing but i guess it wont be more than 3W or so (if you have an efficient power supply). maybe its even less :)
I like the general idea of NAS use, and the fact that its getting really unexpensive. Im only curious how well it would perform being turned on for a very long time, since its a small unit.
Also, was the password "hello" this time ?
The password was indeed hello! I will report back on long-term use. But others here are posting about good experiences using these as NAS and servers.
Print server! Preferably operating simultaneously with the NAS. (VAST possibilities with this little board!)
Aw darn, I was hoping the HC2 would allow for 2 drives to be loaded in for RAID mirroring configurations. I'd love to be able to have a portable ZFS mirror for quick movement of files from my home ZFS array to my backup ZFS array. Sometimes you just have too much data to easily synchronize through the net.
@Kazriko Redclaw: I know 2 years too late... but maybe the Odroid HC4 is the solution that you want.
@@midimike72 Thanks for the info. I might consider one of those sometime. I ultimately just synced everything over the net with ssh tunneling and syncoid though instead of going the offline route.
Great video, thanks for sharing
Good job Chris!
Share video :-)
Thanks! :)
this is awesome thing
great sir....Thanks for this video...
I wonder how it would perform as a plex media server
According to the comment below, it would run well. :)
Animal Facts and as MySQL Server?
should perform good, but i think it would be best to have your client set the actual plex settings to always play original quality, this way your tiny board isn't having to transcode.
I've heard repeatedly these are excellent for 1080p video via Plex.
It would probably work well but I think I would run it as a straight NAS to hold the videos and use a second SBC to run the streaming service. With a dedicated SBC to Host the service it could potentially run allot smoother.
Going to relax. watch a movie on internet / relax and off to sleep. I look forward to hearing from you. Have a blessed Day!
It might be interesting to do video on accessing the network drive from a remote location instead of on the local network.
That is on my (long) list! :)
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
Impressive device.
Raspi is running windows 10..
Can't wait for windows 10 to be ported onto XU4.. and the new N1.