Engl Special Edition vs Engl Savage 120 MKII & EVH Stealth 100

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  • Ultimate High gain amp shootout.
    I compare the Engl Special Edition Founders Edition to the EVH Stealth & Engl Savege 120 MKII.
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    In depth review of the best Engl Amp - The Engl Special Edition Founders Edition
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Komentáře • 72

  • @j.-m.d.8380
    @j.-m.d.8380 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Engl Savage for ever 🖤

  • @mustuddd
    @mustuddd Před 8 měsíci +5

    I'm a weirdo and genuinely enjoy a dry clean channel

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Stay where you are...the authorities are on there way.

    • @muleblues71
      @muleblues71 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@TONEWARSgearshow😂😂

  • @nickharper8145
    @nickharper8145 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Videos like these make me want an EVH 5150 Stealth 100

  • @thrasher10000
    @thrasher10000 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Savage almost seems like the halfway point between the SE and the Stealth, a really nicely balanced tone.

  • @adamfiedorczuk5969
    @adamfiedorczuk5969 Před 5 měsíci +2

    thank you... this is literally the comparison i was looking for. You're awesome!

  • @jcugnoni
    @jcugnoni Před 8 měsíci +2

    Your comparisons are the best. And love the new Engl. It's a monster!

  • @SuperCMO79
    @SuperCMO79 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Cool shootout here bet that was a fun one. What surprised me the most about the founders edition was how 3D the clean channel came across. Alot of versatility and brutality in all of these amps. I'd like to hear it up against the Splawn may be shockingly similar.

  • @billyarbrough291
    @billyarbrough291 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great review. That Engl SE has some brutal tones!!

  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis Před 8 měsíci +3

    Great comprehensive demo. You got 3 flagship amps there, going up against each other. Of course they all sound great.
    The thing that hit me while watching this video is this: it would be a huge waste of money for me to own all 3 of those amps. Any ONE of them would be all I need. They all do the same thing. They all sounded very close to each other. I really like all the channels on the Stealth, but the ENGL's are built better. The Stealth is also the cheapest of the three.

  • @ivsiguitarist
    @ivsiguitarist Před 8 měsíci +7

    I think the Special Edition took the prize. The cleans were glassy and so much definition and richness. Crunch was dialed a little thinner than the Savage but more focussed. Stealth was a little more throaty and warm. On the overdriven channel the Special Edition was aggressive with less fizzle than the Savage. The Stealth sounded great but a tiny bit nasal compared to the Special.

  • @markkinney5030
    @markkinney5030 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Okay my feelings about these amps! First all 3 are good sounding but for me what i;m hearing is no.1 is the special edition on all the tones you did! No. 2 is the Savage and last evh. The Special Edition it just's in so clear and full of that rich tone and make you want to hear this more and I WANT ONE! Great job playing that was so much fun to here them.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thanks for commenting. I'm glad you enjoyed the episode.
      And I have to tell you, the special edition is really impressing the hell out of me lately.
      I still absolutely love the other amplifiers as well. they all have their place

  • @jaychen2000metal
    @jaychen2000metal Před 8 měsíci

    Nice vid man. Can you thrown in some speaker comparisons like wgs retro 30 especially, i can't believe that speaker isn't talked about more than it... is. Thanx dude, keep it metallic 👍

  • @edgardarndt1481
    @edgardarndt1481 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Glad you enjoy your Engl SE, Im Playing my Invader 2 With the Sound wizard Module . Please make an Comparison Demo Video with your thoughts. Geethings from Germany. :)

  • @techforge-Nate
    @techforge-Nate Před 8 měsíci

    Top video my good Sir! Thank you for putting in so much effort in these shootouts- even if having to do them twice :)
    The Special Edition (SE hereafter) is rather surprising. Clean tones I'd say it's my pick, as it has so much more warmth while retaining the clarity- just what you want in a clean tone. Crunch channel was a bit weedy- didn't quite have enough going on in the lower mids, rather nasal. Crunch gots to have balls for that Akka Dakka sound. Single note lead channel I thought the Savage and the Stealth were going to run away with the game, but holy smokes if the Pull me under riff didn't just jump out on the SE. So much closer to JP's tone than the others, it had that chonky but razor sharp voicing. It would be hard to pick between the Savage and the SE. I still have the Stealth in 3rd here because while it undeniably has the most aggressive gain stack, it comes at a cost of being less dynamic, more 2D and scooped- less character if you will. But damn if you aren't spoilt by fate if you have any of these three.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Always good hearing from you. This was a very interesting comparison. They all have their plus and minus don't they?
      I'm so glad I got to play all 3 of them at the same time, that was awesome

  • @TarshishedCactus
    @TarshishedCactus Před 7 měsíci +8

    I feel the savage sounds the best

    • @gameful9899
      @gameful9899 Před 7 měsíci

      me too

    • @patrickb.b.1015
      @patrickb.b.1015 Před 5 měsíci +1

      me also too🤘

    • @metallion0738
      @metallion0738 Před 5 měsíci

      It just has more volume so is hard to define the sound unless they have the exact volume on the 3rd channel from the Stealth.

    • @patrickb.b.1015
      @patrickb.b.1015 Před 5 měsíci

      The Engls can sound amazing at all volumes.The savage is a very precise definable amp even at higher volumes.The only thing you should carefully dial in is the Prescence and the treble.The savage has lots of that.I dont know how the stealth sounds at all volumes I only heared that beast loud and I dont know hof difficult it is to dial in the sound at that volume level.But I playing the Savage 120 MKII and never had any trouble to dial in the sound I want at high volumes.As mentioned you have to be careful with the Treble and Prescence at high volumes.But thats also a bit depending from the speakers you use.

  • @honeybadger1810
    @honeybadger1810 Před 5 měsíci

    Damn dude, choosing is hard. Since you're the guy who actually has all three your opinion would be great. I'm on the verge of a new amp, either the stealth or the savage. The Savage and the SE seem to have a rich upper mid luxuriousness about them that makes them seem a little louder and punchier, that might be more apparent through the video though, maybe they're closer in person. I wonder if the stealth could be tweaked to match that upper mid punch with some tweaks on the front or an eq in the loop for a subtle bump in that high mid region, because I absolutely love that over-the-top aggression of the stealth, but also the richness of the Engl. Some wisdom would be greatly appreciated. Love the vids, you're the man!

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks for commenting. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos
      The stealth is definitely a very aggressive, brutal amplifier and I love it.
      However, if you don't mind spending the money, the SE founder's edition is absolutely amazing
      Between the stealth and the savage, I would go with the stealth, more usable channels and it's just so aggressive
      Check out my video on the stealth where I talk about the Easter eggs

  • @mickeygiesbers8176
    @mickeygiesbers8176 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think they all sound great, I personally think I like the Savage the best for heavy sounds. I just got myself a Tonex pedal, seriously concidering getting your Savage pack thursday when I get my paycheck haha.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks for commenting. I agree, they all sound really good. We live in amazing times regarding gear. So much great stuff to enjoy.
      Thank you in advance for picking up the savage pack for the tonex, I know you'll love it

    • @mickeygiesbers8176
      @mickeygiesbers8176 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TONEWARSgearshow I have to say, got it yesterday, and damn, this pack sounds amazing =P Great job on this one, also thanks for including DI captures, because the way I have my Tonex set up is, in the loop of my Helix, what I do now is split the signal, XLR goes to front of house with an IR and 1/4" goes to my power amp and Mesa 2x12. You can turn the cabs off on Tonex, but I've noticed that sounds REALLY weird 😂

  • @franciscoaguilar6644
    @franciscoaguilar6644 Před 8 měsíci +2

    ENGL SE sounds killer! I prefer the Savage and by some strange reason, the EVH sounded not to the level. Generally, I feel the sound too oversaturated. Will be better to test the amps without OD pedals with less gain, only a SM57 and starting at noon for the EQ. This as a control! Many other youtubers do it in this sense and it gives valuable information as a initial comparison point. Later, the comparison here made is also valid, let´s say, a custom setup.

  • @eTERNIAN69
    @eTERNIAN69 Před 8 měsíci

    Hell YES!

  • @josephrusso7069
    @josephrusso7069 Před 8 měsíci +1

    SE FE for me. More clarity, and best note definition. Plus, it sounds more in your face. The Stealth sounds like it has a blanket over the speakers compared to the SE FE. ENGL!

  • @shovington67
    @shovington67 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If you weren't going to use a "Boost Pedal", what would be your top 3 picks for hi gain amplifiers that get brutal all on their own?

  • @rikosimmo
    @rikosimmo Před 8 měsíci +6

    10:00 10:24 10:47

  • @seanmichael8411
    @seanmichael8411 Před 6 měsíci

    Great videos.. The ENGLs sound great. Now I need to figure out how to get my 10 year old one (He isn't your average guitar playing 10 year old).

  • @cblizard6850
    @cblizard6850 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I love Engl

  • @Viper_75th_RR
    @Viper_75th_RR Před 8 měsíci +1

    Seriously, the Engl SE is my favorite. Everything on that amp works. I’ve also seen other videos where the amp was used for low to mid-gain songs and it worked great . But the SE is very expensive.

  • @poppaslapnuts
    @poppaslapnuts Před 8 měsíci

    Great video! What are your current settings on the Julia?

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you
      Switch all the way up
      Rate 8:00
      Depth 1:00
      Lag 11:00
      D C V knob 11:00

  • @josephbutler148
    @josephbutler148 Před 8 měsíci

    Engl special edition for the win but 3 really great amps

  • @bulletrider8893
    @bulletrider8893 Před 8 měsíci +2

    SE for the sure. But, for the price EVH can't be beaten.

  • @dirktucker77
    @dirktucker77 Před 8 měsíci

    Jeez that amp is brutal

    • @jaychen2000metal
      @jaychen2000metal Před 8 měsíci +1

      Which one???

    • @dirktucker77
      @dirktucker77 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@jaychen2000metal ya true all of them are pretty badass. The Special edition definitely has something special though.

  • @craigharrison5406
    @craigharrison5406 Před 7 měsíci

    I'm probably going against the grain here but i really preferred the EVH blue or crunch channel the most.

  • @DrJon815
    @DrJon815 Před 8 měsíci

    Since I have the stealth I’m always rooting for it. However, since your March madness bracket shootout that engl has been on my radar. I think the new one is better than the savage. As far as the stealth… man I think these two are just two different flavors of bad ass. Can’t go wrong with either.

  • @yousocrazy1199
    @yousocrazy1199 Před 8 měsíci

    wow

  • @nm_shredzz1210
    @nm_shredzz1210 Před 5 měsíci +1

    i feel the stealth sounded bigger and meaner. the se had the best cleans

  • @JimsMusicJourney
    @JimsMusicJourney Před 8 měsíci +1

    The Stealth sounds like it’s more compressed and the Engl has more headroom.

  • @rikosimmo
    @rikosimmo Před 8 měsíci

    Stealth takes it

  • @oldguyjammin9732
    @oldguyjammin9732 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Engls are great but lack HAIR, that extra HAIR that equates to gnarly!

  • @AllMetalReview
    @AllMetalReview Před 8 měsíci

    Would you say the founders edition can do what the savage does?

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yes, and then some

    • @AllMetalReview
      @AllMetalReview Před 8 měsíci

      @@TONEWARSgearshow was looking forward to the savage soon. But man that founders is something special. Price tag is to lol

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@AllMetalReview yeah it's pricey but worth it

  • @Yellowcard7572
    @Yellowcard7572 Před 7 měsíci

    So are we not going to talk about how all these amp names start’s with an S? 😂 anyways nice video homie

  • @dany2rad17
    @dany2rad17 Před 6 měsíci

    EVH Stealth rules

  • @josephbutler148
    @josephbutler148 Před 3 měsíci

    Imagine how much better again the special edition would have been if it was on high power mode. U had it on half power the whole time 😢

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Před 3 měsíci

      Really? I don't remember that being the case

    • @josephbutler148
      @josephbutler148 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TONEWARSgearshow U need to have the light on for high power low power otherwise it's just on low power which is only 50 watts

  • @markjohnson2937
    @markjohnson2937 Před 8 měsíci

    compare channel 3 on the savage and founders! please not another quwerky channel!

  • @benburnett8109
    @benburnett8109 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Until you compare it to a late 90s Crate Blue Voodoo........we will never know who is the REAL "high gain titan!" Crate left a mark on the high gain world that has yet to be replicated. Crate set the standard for High Gain definition with huge bottom end and ultra frigid, yet toasty warm, articulate upper to lower mid highs that accentuated the harmonics from 9-52 gauge strings. In order to maximize the Voodoo, you needed Dean Markley Cryogenically frozen strings using the gauges 9-52. IF you detuned you would want 21-98. With a wound G string. My girlfriend's favorite underwear is a "wound g-string." Yeah, Not only do I crush guitar, and have all the hottest gear, I've got an ultra hot woman who uses my old g-strings for "under garments." Yeah........I'm a total bad a$$.
    Also I copied your settings of the Special Edition and applied those settings to the Line 6 Ventoux amp in the LIne 6 Helix. Total fail. They sounded nothing alike so your settings aren't "optimal!" I tried with My Helix to get the tones you were getting using your settings and couldn't get close. No matter what amp I tried your settings with. Total Fail.
    Let's not mince words: The Special Edition is an amazing amp. As are the Stealth and Savage. But when I can't take your settings and apply them to ANY amp in the Helix and make them work............ the only conclusion I can come up with is "your settings aren't optimal."
    Digital for the win!

    • @Viper_75th_RR
      @Viper_75th_RR Před 8 měsíci

      Well done, sir.

    • @kendallh5037
      @kendallh5037 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Lol This reads like a post from r/guitarcirclejerk

    • @Viper_75th_RR
      @Viper_75th_RR Před 8 měsíci +1

      If Jarrod was a real player with taste in gear, he would have a Peavey Rage, a Line 6 Spider, and an Ibanez tone blaster. He would also be running a metal zone and DOD Thrashmaster through each. Instead he puts out videos with this Engl garbage. A real metal amp sounds like you’re playing through a 1960s transistor radio that’s been filled with killer bees. Really disappointing, Jarrod.

    • @TheMack
      @TheMack Před 8 měsíci

      The guy who eats leather studs with his Cheerios. Totally awesome and rad! Rock on dude! :)

    • @chriswrobel6472
      @chriswrobel6472 Před 7 měsíci

      a blue voodoo? i had a red voodoo for my first tube amp. i was just excited to get a tube amp and after a while, i was like man this thing sounds like a fat ass getting stuck going down a slide. although i kind of wish i kept it because you almost cant find them anywhere

  • @BronzeHorseBandcom
    @BronzeHorseBandcom Před 3 měsíci

    I used to use the old rack version of the special edition. The lead 1 channel is where the magic stuff lives. Lead 2 is actually darker and a little compressed.
    One thing I would say about engl stuff is it drops straight into a mix. A lot of guitarist dont like the crispness especially because it’s very unforgiving. In truth it makes you sound much better especially if you have two guitarists. All three of these amps sound great though .

  • @Viper_75th_RR
    @Viper_75th_RR Před 8 měsíci

    My Peavey Rage and Metal Zone make these amps sound like garbage. I’ll send you some videos of me ripping leads on my Blackstar Artisan and Line 6 with Digitech reverb and delay