What Happened to F1 in Germany?
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2022
- With Germany being home to not only iconic automotive brands, but world class racing drivers, why does Formula 1 not race there anymore? With the Hockenheimring and the Nurbrugring being import pieces in Formula 1's history, surely we should return right? The two tracks used to alternate every year and it was a pretty decent shared arrangement. Circuit bosses and organisers from both tracks have expressed their desire to return, but financially it must make sense. Money is everything. Enjoy!}
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The thing is, Hockenheim IS ABSOLUTELY interested in holding an F1 race. But they think F1 asks for way too much money to be remotely worth it. Tickets were already really expensive and to get more people to come they would maybe need to lower prices, which might make it harder get make a profit again
I mean north wilksboro in nascar had the lowest ticket prices on the schedule, and they always seemed to do good until nascar left in 96
@@Someyungrebel F1 is just greedy
@@fabiojosefmoser6838 yeah
It’s the only race series they lose money in
They need Mercedes to go in and pay for it. But Mercedes is not interested in a German Grand Prix. Maybe it will change with VW/Audi joining 2026.
Its a shame that F1 doesn't race in Germany, the country has done soooo much for F1
F1 always had to support German tracks because they never managed to be stable themself, but yea 🤦
Check your facts
@@goatgoat9940 Germany has still done a lot for f1 and motorsports in general
More than Saudi Arabia for example.
@@goatgoat9940 I believe many of the tracks currently on the calendar are not profiting from it, at least not money-wise, especially not the once in the middle east. The middle east mostly uses the sport to cover and enhance their image, that's mostly the reason why the government supports it. In nearly all the other countries there is government support, but simply not in Germany. Our government is not really supporting car racing in general and because they don't, it's hard to hold up for the race tracks
@@Mishima505 what do F1 cars use for fuel? what do engines need to reduc friction between parts?
Still cant believe I was there in 2019 at Hochenheim. Insane race
Were the ticket prices extortionate compared to other Grand Prix? Were the grandstands full?
@@hamzaesat4085 bump. Curious too.
@@hamzaesat4085 I don’t know how the ticket prices compare to other races (first GP for me). I think it was around 300€ for quite good seats (Grand-stand, almost at Finish Line, but we could also see quite a lot from the stadium section, mid height of the grand stand) - and it was the whole weekend, so FP1 to Race, including Porsche, F4 (i believe), and Renault Clio Cup). Personally, I think its fair.
Grandstands were full on race day, also quite full at Q, at practices not so much - as far as I remember.
Was really fun, cause everyone was enjoying it so much (a bit like football stadium feeling). We had a great sight on all the people going off on the grand stand and also Bottas at T1, the crowd really was loving it.
@@mr.norris3840 That sounds amazing!
Congrats man
The 2020 Nürburgring Grand Prix displayed how great the track is. Even without weather changes the race had plenty of action and fighting for positions.
Which was literally due to the weather........... Every dry race was a complete borefest, same as Hockenheim
@@goatgoat9940 you can watch the whole race on CZcams (in some countries at least). There was no change in weather or big changes in track conditions during the race, so i have no clue what you are talking about...
@@goatgoat9940 i was there. It was just cold on raceday. Nothing Else. Not rain, no lightnings, no fogs. So what are you Talking about?
Giving Sabine some respect. That's wonderful, love it.
Rest easy, you legend.
She was a gifted human being! ❤️ 🕊
@@MadeByPerspective absolutely. Skilled and had amazing charisma/presence.
I just heard prefix "late" to her name and I'm shocked...???
What happened to her??
She was the True "Master of Nord"
@@yasirahmadX Do you live under a rock?
@@yasirahmadX cancer, march last year.
Last year, I had the ability to talk with a few people from the Hockenheimring during a race weekend. We also talked about this topic, they told me that they lose 5 million euros with every F1 race. They added that they would like to host the race as long as they don't lose money, even if they only earn 1€. The City of Hockenheim earned 10 million euros per race in tax money(Tickets, hotels, food etc.). They even asked the city if they would give the racetrack half of the tax money so that they could keep F1, but the City said no. Now they only rent out the racetrack, and they say that they are in a better financial situation and that they don't see a reason to host f1 as long as they lose money since they track is rented out for the next 2 Years by other racing series, private people or companies.
That is about right Hockenheim is my mother’s home town
So is this unique to Germany? If not then how do F1 races in other countries keep from losing money?
@@chrisaustin9949 They don't.
@@chrisaustin9949 A lot of current F1 tracks are only able to finance the race because of subsidies. The event itself doesn't pay the bill at all.
@@chrisaustin9949 They don't. For most tracks/countries hosting an F1 race is a status symbol and has nothing to do with earning money. Hosting the most advanced racing series on this planet is quite an image boost and legitimizes a countries decision. (something Germany does not need and won't spend money on)
Additionally, F1 wants to expand to new markets like China, the US, and Mexico and will prioritize races there, and charge the racetracks there less money.
For me living in Hockenheim it just hurts . Me watching every Motorsport I can would love a home race . Just hearing the cars at Friday morning while I am in school when they run fp1 is so stunning .
I love the race and we need it back .
Grüße aus hoggene ;-)
@@dampfnudel4764 alles klar . 11/10 in Hockenheim Kunde 😂
Hockenheim, Kyalami and Sepang are tracks we need to see back on the calendar! Rotating deals are the best way to do it honestly. We don't need more races in the US that's for sure
Hey, we also don't need more races in countries of the Asian/Pacific region, we have enough already... and do F1 higher-ups care? Not in the slightest... and also meanwhile they don't give a sh!t about human rights in the countries they go to anymore (just look at Jeddah, Istanbul and Qatar, I only say #WeRaceAsOneGiantHumanRightsViolation)
@@cat_03tv its a business after all and all sports are getting into the market in the UAE lots of money to spend. Germany, South Africa and the likes don't have the finances to keep the races.
@@cat_03tv Because the number one priority of motorsport is human rights. Maybe the UN should run F1 and the FIA go sort out human rights? The virtue signaling is hilarious.
I get what ur saying. But aren't I just allowed to dream every now and then?
I sat first row in Hockenheim 2019 and it was just awesome. There was an attendance of somethig above 60 000 and the limiting factor was the allowed capacity by local authorities, there was more demand than they were allowed to sell tickets and therefor a section of the grandstand was empty. Domenicali believes that there isnt enough interest based on the fact that only around 800 000 people are watching the race on average in Germany but the real problem is not the interest its the insane price you have to pay. 30€ a month to watch it legally in pay TV is just to much (though Domenicali stated in an interview he thinks it isnt, even tho everyone else does) especially considering that F1 was free to watch until 2020. When F1 was shown in free TV almost 4 million people were watching every race so the interest is there, its just hidden behind a huge paywall. Unfortunately it is only getting worse this way since even fewer new people can be attracet to the sport with this paywall. Until F1 is back in Germn free TV there wont be a germn GP.
If it weren't for Lewis' brilliance and wins getting him many fans, the same downfall would've happened at Silverstone. When Channel 4 bought BBC's F1 streaming rights (they used to show most of the races live), we thought live races would keep going strong in the UK. Unfortunately Sky Sports exists, they bought the rights to 'show' every race live exclusively, you need to pay Sky Sports monthly (and you have to pay even more to just 'watch' races live, 10 whole pounds extra! We don't even see that for the Premier League!) and the only live race on free TV is Silverstone. Mad isn't it? This, along with increases in F1 fans across the world who were fed up with Lewis and/or Mercedes winning every championship, lead to decreases in British F1 fans and there are fewer international fans or rival team fans going to Silverstone. However, Lewis fans (well, the vaccinated ones) go last minute for tickets, which make up for most of that deficit. This way, Silverstone's F1 races aren't making losses like Hockenheim's but it's becoming slightly more unpopular on a global scale every year.
This and your comment above show what greed, money and Liberty Media have all caused the sport. Only one word to describe it. Shame. In more than one way.
Who knows, when Lewis retires, George becomes Gasly 2.0 and McLaren can't deliver a championship contender, maybe we could have a Hamilton effect?😂
The problem is... we Germans can't watch it... the free option isn't there anymore and was also very bad, the pay option is very expensive and still very bad. F1TV was alright but got banned ... So more and more people lost interest.
Ich habe das Gefühl dass F1 aktuell super viel Aufmerksamkeit erzeugt in Deutschland, mehr sogar als in der Vergangenheit. Hat sicherlich auch mit Drive to survive zu tun. Aber generell gucken viel mehr miener Freunde jetzt F1 als vor ein paar Jahren. Und das Sky Abo ist ja nicht nur für F1, sondern auch für Buli, was die Zahlungsbereitschaft nochmal erhöht, als wäre es nur F1.
@@L00kiii64 Ich kenne da mehr Leute wie mich, die die Bundesliga so interessant finden wie einer Wand beim Trocknen zuzuschauen 😅
That's right here in Germany the best opportunity to watch any race is to buy a subscription at a VPN and then to watch it in Austria. It's cheaper but not free and a lot of people in this country are scared of VPNs because they think it would be illegal. So at the end of the day the sport is dying in Germany every year more and more, because Sky is freaking expensive. With Sky you pay around 10 - 15 Euros per race which is the main reason. Thanks RTL ...
Please either one would be great, but like you say, with money being king, they are only gonna expand to places like china etc. I think we are at or above the reasonable amount of Grand Prix already. Great episode
Greedy drivers like Hamilton taking too much of a slice of revenue
@@default123default2 what you on about. The Mercedes team pay Hamilton's contract his high pay has nothing to do with there not being a German GP
Definitely already way above a reasonable amount of races. 20 absolute max - ideally 17/18, I would say. 23 a year is ridiculous in terms of travel and logistics - not to mention totally nonsensical for F1's greener image.
@@MPal24 a yoke
I love the idea of rotating circuits each year. Keep some of the 'flagship' races annual, but mix it up with the others. 2020 was great thanks to the variety of circuits used and it would give some of the forgotten 'historic' venues a chance.
I was at the Nürburgring in 2020, we loved it and it just felt right for F1 to be back in Germany.
I used to live six kilometers from Hockenheimring, in Heidelberg. it's a shame I never got to go
I love Hockenheim, although British I've been there twice. The Grandstands in the Complex are terrific, much better than those in Silverstone. Parking is quicker and easier and infinitely cheaper than Silverstone. We thoroughly enjoyed the raport with the German fans in the campsites, terrific atmosphere. I've been round the track both years, once on a tour bus, and once allowed to drive round the track in my own car during the lunchtime of a practice session!! Happy memories!! So many lovely places to visit in the area, Heidelberg, Speyer, etc.
Fuji and Suzuka DID alternate at some point in the mid-late 2000s... it was short-lived though
Ahhh yeah! Forgot about that 😅
They didn't. It was planned to happen but it failed so Fuji held both races in 07 and 08 but from 09 Suzuka came back full time.
To be fair, in my opinion Formula 1 is just to expensive as a viewer. The tickets are waaaaay to expensive (as a German)
Me being german and having atended that iconic GP in 2019 it would be a dream to have one track back. I don´t care which one, they are both top tier. Honestly, that rotation deal back in the days was perfect. Hopefully We get a german GP in the future :c I will certainly go there
Was the heat at the start of the Weekend bearable? That heatwave at the time was crazy.
@@iamlarsen7896 You have no Idea how bloody hot it was in the grand stand. Litterally burned to crisps there 😂
@@hendrik_j_k I’m happy to not know that. 25 degrees is my limit lol
F1 should rotate tracks so that no track hosts a race 2 years in a row. That said, the history of F1 demands that there should always be races in Germany, France, Italy, and the UK every season.
I went to Hockenheim in 2010 and it was one of the best experiences of my life, but because the Nürburgring is closer to where I live and my deep passion for the Nürburgring I'd prefer F1 to go to the Eifel
That's easy to explain: expensive tickets to the general admission and weekend fees for deep pockets... That's why f1 management prefers to race in parking lots such Miami and with 8500 attendees in Qatar.
Old Hockenheimring without the Ostkurve chicane was absolutely incredibly mindblowing
You mean with the Ostkurve
@@LS-Moto Yes, the curve not the chicane that was installed later.
Dude, I have been watching your videos for 6months now and I have to say that you became my fav f1 youtuber. Your videos are just quality, keep up the great work👌
Thank you so much I appreciate it 😃
Totally agree. Instead of returning to traditional circuits, we have more of the “Azerba-Saudi-Dhabi-who-the-heck-cares races” being staged for political and monitory reasons.
Racing in a certain area is ALWAYS a financial reason. Always. They don't do it for some stupid romantic reason.
@@GloomGaiGar Yes, that is the Bernie Ecclestone legacy. I attended my first GP in 1968, which was the last race that Jim Clark won before his untimely death, ironically at Hockenheim. Those were the days when all drivers were friends, and racing used to be romantic and idealistic. It is a good thing that people don’t know what they are missing as it is painful to see what the sport has become…. prima donnas who are concerned with money.
Iconic tracks are being replaced by the same copy/paste wannabe Street circuits and garbage like Abu Dhabi.
All about that dirty oil money.
I miss Hockenheim. It's one of my favourite tracks of all time
What a tremendous job of reporting! 'Very impressed with your research, writing, and delivery. Interesting, informative, compelling. It's nice to hear a real pro on CZcams. Thank you!
Hockenheim was one of my favorite tracks to drive on Microprose Grand Prix game back in the early 90s.
I like your videos Mr. Perspective, you have a nice clear voice and are easy to understand, keep up the good work.
I think the Nurburgring GP layout is seriously underrated, and it would be considered one of the classic tracks if it were located anywhere else in the world. The current layout of Hockenheim isn't as appealing to me, but there was some magic in the air the last two times they went there.
Fun fact for everyone who hates modern hockenheim, the "new" layout has been there for decades with the exception of the straight between turn 5 and the hairpin. The old national layout. He literally just used what was already there lol. I dont often defend tilke, if ever, but in this case, he does get alot of unnecessary bs for something he really didnt even do lol
Also, the British Grand Prix used to alternate between Brand's Hatch and Silverstone.
I live very close to the Nürburgring and I would love to see F1 there again.
But it is like with everything in international Sports since a few years: Money decides. And that is so sad.
Around 2001 there where even plans to host a THIRD GP in Germany on the Lausitzring. But also due to Money-problems and the fact that Alessandro Zanardi had his big accident on this very track, the nagotiatins where srapped very quickly.
Dafür haben wir die ADAC GT MASTERS am Lausitzring! Meine neue Lieblingsserie! GT3 Fahrzeuge klingen heute eh viel besser als die Formel 1.
This is something that I've wondered about, thx for the info
If the Nürburgring and Hockenheimring don't feel like they could accommodate the race , why doesn't the Lausitzring step in? It would certainly be a huge deal for the region and it would show the other GP-tracks that the demand is there.
is it an grade 1 track? i think its not and thats the problem
I didn't know about that track and saw some pics and it looks like a big triangle without sharp corners.
@@Daniel-wj9rz part of it is , but the GP and DTM layout don't use a lot of the triangle
@@wastedsoviet isn't that more of a formality? When it was built they had F1 in mind and other Series have been using it dor years.
@@MrDeutschGerman its not a formality. monaco does have an exception because of their history. and grade 1 is the highest level bot every series needs a grade 1 certificate. i dont really know how it all works tho. you should be able to google the stuff tho
Literally I have been waiting for someone to make a video on this for about 2 years, I thought I was the only one who kept thinking about this . That track was my favourite ❤️
It’s sad there is no longer a German GP, I was stationed in Germany in the army and my first GP was the 2002 German GP, I was hooked ever since, what a summer to be in Germany, plus the World Cup. It was absolutely incredible.
Seb’s 2019 Hockenheim race was OUTSTANDING, HE DRIVE AMAZINGLY, he is, was and he will be the best.
Unfortunately I think we’re in the era of Gulf States with very deep pockets drawing the eye of Liberty Media. I think it’s good that F1 is a global sport & therefore has global events but personally I’d much prefer to return to some of the 2020 stand in tracks instead of new Middle Eastern street circuits with nothing around them & extreme wealth inequality/living standards.
The bigger problem with F1 in Germany at the moment is, that you are not able to watch it. You have to have Sky or you have no chance. And sky is definetly not worth it when you just want to watch F1. Last year we had 3 races shown on TV. Its not even possible to get F1TV here because Sky Germany has ALL rights to F1. And Sky is not even good. The commentators are have zero skill when it comes to talking about motor sport. In the middle of the race they talk about that some of their crew members just got them coffee, or some weird fan questions from instagram that have been answered a million times before. It is just not enjoyable to watch Formula 1 in Germany anymore. I really hope the interest for F1 will increase when Mick has a good car.
Thats why I'm using vpn and watch it on ORF.
I think that as a default, F1 should at least go where the teams, constructors and engine suppliers come from (with the exception of Switzerland for Sauber, cuz there's no track). UK, Germany, Italy, France, Japan, US should be a default. And we've seen that even in a small country like Austria, the Red Bull Ring works. Germany, UK, Italy all have fantastic tracks, and there are so many historic tracks in France that would deserve to be raised to Grand Prix standards. But yeah, there should be a clause in F1, to favour countries that have either drivers or teams.
Greed, changing demands on the track and safety features each year and ever shorter tracks to keep the viewers from "being bored" have killed off a lot of tracks, including Hockenheim.
To me the beginning of the end for Hockenheim was drastically shortening the track combined with ever increasing ticket prices.
Honestly, the alternating tracks in a single country should be implemented more
Imola is nice but it's still not suited for even these newer cars, they're still pretty bulky
also, Egypt Grand Prix at their new capital, F1 needs to make it happen, when it's finished of course
Would love to see F1 in Egypt
yay another race on a flat desert track...
@@nevercommitsuicide Formula Desert
You're right tho
Let's go for Morocco
Between
213 Av. Mohammed V, Marrakech 40000, Morocco
and
Rue el Adala, Marrakech 40000, Morocco
if you zoom out, there's nutty road building decision that could at least make an interesting ACTUAL street circuit unlock saudi
I say Egypt because of it's proximity to those other desert s.o.b.s
but also
because we don't have a single race in Africa
I was going to say Fes originally but it doesn't look like the streets are wide enough
but anyway. . . . . . . . . .
Great video, Pers, but I think you made a very interesting point that says a lot about how we see F1. "As the calendar increases, the chances of having space for Germany reduce." That says something is rotten in F1, because more races should mean more opportunities.
I prefer Nürburgring, and it's one of the most iconic tracks in F1 and motorsport history, but the sharing arrangement with Hockenheim was, as you say, the best of both worlds. It's a tragedy that both iconic tracks fell through.
Even though when I went in 2016, the race was relatively uneventful (certainly by the standards of the 2018 and 2019 races), I really enjoyed visiting Hockenheim. There's so much history there, both distant and more recent. The third layout (often referred to as the "Old Layout") is still visible from satellite images, there is a museum to Motorsport behind the grandstand on the pit straight and best of all (owing to my admiration of the man) there is a memorial to Jim Clark by turn 2 of the current layout (who died in an accident there in 1968).
I know that there are those who look at the "old layout" fondly, but for me, the current layout is better overall. The fans get more for their money, the track has more variety and even without DRS, the layout is great for enabling to side by side racing. When weather is mixed, it's even better :)
Hockenheim is my favorite track of sll times, old and new layouts. I do prefer the new layout because it makes more sense for modern races in my opinion. We have monza already for the long stratights and speed
I'm British but nothing is more nostalgic to me than watching the cars speed off through the forest. Yes that layout was outdated but I just miss seeing that. I guess Monza is kinda similar..
@@PiousMoltar I'm a Brit as well, but the thing that sums up how I feel about the third layout of Hockenheim is the protestor who invaded the track in the forest section during the race in the 2000 German Grand Prix. I remember watching that race live on ITV and even with the happiness of seeing Rubens Barrichello finally becoming a race winner, from 18th on the grid no less, I winced when I saw the cars rushing past the protestor at ~200MPH. Even at the tender age of 11 years old (circa 2000), I had read about what happened to Tom Pryce at Kyalami in 1977, running over someone while he was running at full speed. I was worried that we were going to see something similar on live TV.
On top of this, the driver who I admire the most of all that have run in the sport, Jim Clark, was killed there in 1968 (and even in its peak, it wasn't something that Hockenheim could ever entirely shake off)
Deals with totalitarian regimes in the middle east and elsewhere? Easy! Deals with traditional racing destinations with decades of history? Nah, too hard
Liberty media was a mistake. Change my mind.
@@apophisRO the decline for Hochenheim started when Bernie was convicted for bribery in Germany so it's not all their fault, but it really pisses me of that every gulf country has a race now and there is a race in a miami parking lot yet F1 is too greedy to give a german track a good deal.
The hockenheim ring needs to come back on the calendar
Absolutely love it mate, can you please take into account my proposal and make a video about Fernando Alonso's mysterious crash in 2015 Barcelona pre season testing?
I'm happy you also addressed Sabine Schmitz.
if I had to choose, I'd want Hockenheim back on the calender. Main reason being just living 15 kilometres away from the race track and being there often when I was a child. So it holds some kind of nostalgic value to me.
Oschersleben for the German GP !
Nah Avus is better
*Hol up....*
I always lived close to hockenheim. So a race there would mean that I can get there in under an hour. But the ticket prices are hard to justify. The Nürburgring would be the same but I'd had to pay a lot for the commute and I couldn't just leave after sessions and go back the next day. So out of selfish reasons I'd like to see a race in Hockenheim, without F1 asking for too much money.
A GP on the Sachsenring would be cool
MotoGP already is there
It's too small
The guy who designed the first corner at Sachsenring might want to have word with you.
That might be the least soothing track for f1 in Germany.
Hockenheim in the old forest layout with V10s or V12’s that could go bang on a hot summers days was perfect F1 drama.
Hy I am currently writing on a science project about how a German f1 grand Prix would look like. One of the parts of this project is about why there isn't a German grand Prix in the moment. Thank you for your informativ Video it really helps me to safe time. Could you tell me where you got all your information from? I really appreciate it and keep producing your very good videos.
I miss having a german gp
Same ☹️
A bit off-topic, but i wish F1 would go for Mt. Panorama. I really love that circuit.
And yeah. Come back to Germany. On both tracks!
The problem at the Nürburgring is that they lost a lot of money due to the project „Nürburgring 2009“.They built a Rollercoaster and some other things around the Track like LeMans.
But the differents is that LeMans is near to Paris a big City with a lot of Tourism.
But the Nürburgring is in the middle of nowhere and no one came to the Rollercoaster and to the other stuff.
I‘m German and i live near to the Nürburgring.
I was at the Grand Prix in 2020 and it was just beautiful to have F1 back.
I just hope that we can have a German Grand Prix again because i think that a lot of people would come espically dutch people because the Nürburgring is near to the Netherlands
I just started really watching F1 in 2019-2020 and i was instantly hooked. Now i can't wait for it to return and i get impatient waiting between GPs. But i live in Florida and i looked into the ticket prices for the Miami Gardens GP. The prices are astronomical. Not even right for the average person that is a true fan. I really don't like how Formula1 is just as greedy as the American NFL with their obscene prices for playoffs and superbowls. You can get a cheap ticket to a regular game but it's gonna be waaaaay up in the rafters. You might ass well be watching it from the moon.
Maybe you can make a video about Turkish Grand Prix and Istanbulpark. It is my local track and F1 had really good races here in my opinion. It really saddens me that after returning to the sport for the last 2 years, it seems unlikely to return again. At least not in a short period of time.
F1 should introduce rotating calendar with some races as permanent fixtures
I watched DTM some years ago. They drove in Oschersleben. I want to see the F1 there (if this track is suitable of course)
I really want Hockenheim back, I was at the GP in 2019 and it was more than amazing
They would, but they are getting drowned out by other countries willing to put more money on the table
Which is why we have such a big change in which tracks we go to in recent times
MotoGP is racing at Sachsenring, maybe F1 may try Sachenring for the next F1 season
I think the solution is that tracks only host every 2 years have maybe 3 key tracks that are always there like Silverstone , spa ,Australia. That way more tracks could be raced on it would challenge the teams and driver more to
I was there at the Hockenheim Ring on the last race, very beautifull chaos. The thunder afterwards was also "fun".
Not really
AVUS.... haha... yeah, that would be "interesting" to say the least. Like the old forest section of the hokenheimring, a modern car would absolutely "Go to plaid" on those circuits.
I would personally prefer Hochenheim circuit because previously I have done that race and then carried on to Hungary for the next weekend. This means fans can get two races on a 10 day trip with Rail connections good from UK. Another idea would be for a triple header with Germany, Austria and Hungary. Teams would have relatively short runs between locations with a long break after Hungary.
More tracks should share a slot. More variety of circuits and organisers can share the costs. It would be good to visit a track only every other year.
F1 should definitely try the Sachsenring! It has so many ups and downs, that you feel like in a roller coaster even in a normal road car!
I would love the old forest track that no longer is there... it was so brilliant and soooo many good memories.
Not sure why the old track had to be destroyed, based on its heritage. It could have been an access road for emergency services even.
@@evanstephen300 100% Evan... heritage means so much, and it isn't like they have actually done anything with it ... apart from reforesting (to know knowledge)
This man doesn't miss, another banger
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As much as I loved Hockenheim?
The Nurburgring hosted way more exciting races
95,96,97,98,99 all have rewatchable value
There are so many good circuits out there that you could have two full calendars running every other year. That may not go down well or be financially viable, but it would be great for the fans.
I live in Hockenheim and its just sad to see the Hockenheimring without F1. Every time i go for a run around the track i imagine how great it would be for f1 to return.
The Lausitz Ring would be Awesome 👍
The new hockenheim track is good but the old one was just amazing simple track long straights some chicanes all a bit different when it was raining there was a chance that only one striaght is completely wet that was crazy stuff it only missed some safety stuff
Lausitz Trioval (with safer-barrier) would be an interesting try
Eurospeedway / Lausitzring would be very interesting.
Hockenheim, Sepang and Kaylami should be a regular in the calendar.
Norisring or Lausitzring (2021 DTM t1) would be pretty cool
I think it would be the Hockenheimring. Not that it would be the better race track, but simply because of the traffic connections and the logistics regarding hotels and the like. In addition, the weather is somewhat more stable than at the Nürburgring.
I think they should bring back the AVUS. It´s like Special Stage Route X from Gran Turismo, but it´s the Autobahn.
Decent videos mate
Thank you!
I hope Mick’s career follows in his father’s tiretracks and then we can get back (one) of my favorite tracks. Hockenheim is legendary. Maybe Porsche / Audi / VW or BMW in F1 would also help.. Mercedes is not perceived as German enough?
I really like Hockenheim ring when it was in calendar and i will be very enjoy if they return it
The fact that the attendance fell so much is not related to the Schumacher effect, its related to the V6 effect which were introduced in 2014
Just send them around the Norisring :D
The return I want to see is the Indian Grand Prix. I know that it might never happen, but it would be amazing to see the circuit back on the calendar
yh a lot of these tracks would be great on the calendar unfortunately most of them aren’t for financial reasons hopefully f1 can figure something out so it’s actually beneficial for most tracks to hold f1
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For me, 2019 Germany was exceptional for two reasons. It was some disapointment about Hulk (he is incredible driver, but his lack of concentration on pressure when running for podium place is, IMO, is one the reasons why he couldn't find a seat in recent years), but that Kvyat's third (especially in STR14, which was a nice car, but nowhere near likes AT02) was that big moment of brilliance. We for some time genuinely hoped that he could get that RB seat back.
yup. 2 races in US for 2022 and 3 races for 2023 but still no Hockenheim, Nürburgring and Sepang
I think the location is part of the problem. Between Belgium and the Netherlands, Nürgburg is too close, and even though Hockenheim is relatively isolated from other tracks at the moment, I think Lausitzring or Sachsenring might be better situated to tap into underdeveloped markets (Berlin, Eastern Germany, Poland, Prague)
Not sure what it would take for those to upgrade from FIA 2 to FIA 1 though.
why not on the "lausitzring", which is also called "EuroSpeedway". i think it would be a nice idea to use the Superspeedway layout
One thing that happens at most other race circuits in Germany as well is, they get used often. So the money that F1 brings in, isn't as big a deal compared to other countries. WEC, Formula 4, Formula Renault, ELMS, DTM, Blancpain or whatever its called now, Porsche cup, etc... all race at German circuits. Austin gets F1, IndyCar, NASCAR, WEC... that's it. It doesn't have "year round money"
I really want the German gp at Hockenheim to return. I never saw that race live, but want to so badly. It never dissappoints. Plus, Seb would get his home race and home crowd back. Should just put in place of a eastern race (which are held mostly due to huge amounts of money)
Thank you very much for this contrary. Stay save.
Nurburgring GP circuit is a great track. I really hope Germany hosts soon.
I really hope f1 introduce a system that limits the races to 19 or 21 races per season and have alternating tracks between different years to make it fresh because 23+ is too many races
don't worry about a F1 race in germany, germany is going to be in the dustbin of history within a decade. ;)
greetings from germany :)
i would really like the hockenheim ring back its such a awesome track and so iconic almost as iconic as silverstone