2012 KIA FORTE 2.0L ENGINE NOISE

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  • čas přidán 18. 03. 2023
  • I diagnose an engine noise on a 2012 Kia Forte with a 2.0L engine. After performing a spark plug inspection and a cylinder leakage test, I discovered leakage on #1 cylinder. Used inspection camera to find cylinder scoring on #1 and #4 cylinders. #1 cylinder being the worst and test results confirmed cylinder damage. It was determined that the engine noise is most likely related to cylinder and piston wear causing "piston slap". Customer declined repair do to parts availability.
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Komentáře • 52

  • @justacinnamonbun8658
    @justacinnamonbun8658 Před rokem +3

    I have what I think is the same engine, 2.0L Nu (non-turbo) in my 2023 Kia Soul LX. Since bought new last December it has always made a strange clatter noise only on cold start. The longer it takes to warm up the longer it takes for the clatter to abate. In Jersey winters where it can go down to 0°F in January, it clatters for a lot longer until it reaches op temp. Interestingly enough, when you first start it, there is no clatter while the ECU calls for a richer fuel mixture and the idle is high, as the idle speed comes down to 1k RPM you can then begin to hear the clatter which makes me think that this isn't an oil starvation issue. It will clatter until it gets nice and hot and then goes away. The recommended viscosity on this engine is 0W-20. As an experiment, in my last oil change I used 2 quarts of 0W-20 and 2 quarts of 0W-30. It helped to quiet it down a lot. I was taking it easy out on the road expecting a check engine light but seems like you can go heavier on the oil and maybe the engine can run a full 4 quarts on 0W-30 and might be made for that but to squeeze out an extra MPG or two at the expense of engine failure at 100k miles they say to use 0W-20. I can't experiment too much with it, car is under warranty and I keep all my oil receipts and a maintenance log as well as all the old oil filter boxes (OEM) and I even keep the old drain plug washer just in case I get accused of overtightening the bolt or not using a new washer at every oil change. Next oil change I will probably use 1 quart of 0W-30 and the rest 0W-20.

  • @jamesturnure9735
    @jamesturnure9735 Před rokem +4

    Working on a friend's 2012 2.0 Forte with an identical engine rattle. Pitch and intensity of the noise has not increased appreciably in some 7K miles since first noted. No metal in the oil and nothing in the pan when I dropped it. Cam and buckets are pristine and timing chain is tight for the miles (115K). Given the pattern issues of this vintage, I'm aligning with your piston slap diagnosis. I'll run the leakdown test next time I have hands on it...question is, how long will it remain drivable with continual oil changes?

  • @billymarshall4966
    @billymarshall4966 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Mine makes a roaring noise when I put the vehicle into gear after I first start the engine in the morning. It goes away in a few minutes when it warms up. Wondering if is a issue with the Transmission, not having any problems with the shifting or anything. Lost

  • @Mitch-yo3rn
    @Mitch-yo3rn Před rokem +2

    Awesome video. These things are nothing but problems and headaches. The 1.8 and the 2.0 are both junk. I was about to ship my Elantra back to Korea chopped in half and let the factory have it back. POS. Subbed. Keep up the great content!

  • @Rickydee35
    @Rickydee35 Před 11 měsíci

    Yes you have the good diagnostic for
    Repair change base of motor garantee kia for 200000 km or 10 years here canada

  • @hhn2002
    @hhn2002 Před rokem +2

    This should be apart of the Kia engine recall campaigns for rod bearing failure.

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před rokem

      Checked on recalls, TSBs, and campaigns. None applied to this vehicle. Thanks for watching!!

  • @Aaron-hd8ql
    @Aaron-hd8ql Před 11 měsíci

    What size impact gun is that and what brand?

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před 11 měsíci

      The one in the video is a Snap On, but that one had a battery fire and is now dead. I replaced it with the Milwaukee tool. It's actually a driver tool.
      Model# 2401-22. So far I like the Milwaukee. I just wish the M12 batteries would stay in my rachets. The battery decides to just dislodge sometimes. Thanks for watching!!

  • @GarageVegaUS
    @GarageVegaUS Před rokem +3

    Mine just die at 91 thousand miles, noises and codes started at 68 thousand miles. I bought the car with 39k miles. Kia Forte Koup 2013 2.0 6sp manual die, car is in the mechanic. If your Forte still good just sell the car save you a headache

  • @SG-gy7nj
    @SG-gy7nj Před 4 měsíci +1

    Kia forte koup 1.6 2009 weird noise from engine started at 135.000 failed totally at 140.000km visited few mechanics here in south korea and each said scrap the car it aint worth the effort price for the replacement engine plus labour equaled to 60% value of the car itself. The rings on the cylinder get loose and they wreck havok within the engine block.

  • @jamirahlove
    @jamirahlove Před 8 měsíci

    Can a the piston issue issue stop the car from starting?

    • @MichaelA-cu6nv
      @MichaelA-cu6nv Před 2 měsíci

      no these are 4 piston engines, the car can run on three pistons, a lot slower and with earth quake vibration

  • @smsweeney
    @smsweeney Před 3 měsíci

    Is it just me or do those piston crowns look pitted? Maybe detonation or something?

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Pretty typical carbon build up, not as concerning as the cylinder walls though. Thanks for watching!!

  • @1000Strom
    @1000Strom Před rokem +2

    I have the exact same car with 70,000 starting to get a louder tick. I hear many people saying their rod bearings are getting worn premature.

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před rokem +1

      Yeah. These engines were not the best, that's for sure. Thanks for watching!!

    • @GarageVegaUS
      @GarageVegaUS Před rokem +2

      Mine die with 91,000miles, got code cylinder 2 missfire, compression on cylinder 2 is 40. Good bye valves, now need timing chain and a lot. I'm selling the car i'm back to Honda

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před rokem +1

      @@GarageVegaUS I still think a Toyota or a Honda is the way to go. Thanks for watching!!

    • @Triggerman2505
      @Triggerman2505 Před 6 měsíci +3

      170+ miles on my 2014 Kia Rio and no issues at all ...if you maintain them properly, frequent oil changes with synthetic oil, 5w20 and nothing else, OEM kia oil filter, you would have no issues. Noises could be the play in the bearing of the fuel pump (easy fix), yes piston slap, chain tensioner injectors (normal). But again it depends who had it before you and how they maintained it is key IMHO.

    • @ammoniawilder4451
      @ammoniawilder4451 Před 17 dny +1

      Mine just started this but it’s over 250k miles

  • @sadeq3030
    @sadeq3030 Před 7 měsíci

    I am about to by 2012 fort 2.0L engine
    What do you advice 😅 me ?😊

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hope you bought it cheap and just let'r eat. Low expectations. Thanks for watching!!

    • @charlieboy6885
      @charlieboy6885 Před 13 dny

      Take care of it do the oil change at 6,000 miles

  • @temosgarage
    @temosgarage Před měsícem +1

    My 2011 2.0 with 86k miles sounds exactly the same. Ive noticed the noise is getting worse and worse. They are mainly highway miles. No oil will protect this engine. Been running Amsoil for years. 6AT is also junk. Very harsh shift between 2nd to 3rd gear. Kia vehicles are just junk. I may just keep it and run it till it dies and then deal with it after that. I just put almost 2,000 on tires, suspension parts, engine and trans mounts.... yikes

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před měsícem

      Definitely not built to last. You might as well drive into the ground because they really aren't worth anything. Thanks for watching!!

  • @ajdean1560
    @ajdean1560 Před měsícem +1

    I have a 2017 Kia forte 2.0 making the same noise I’ve heard so many things

  • @Momalaka318
    @Momalaka318 Před měsícem +1

    Mine has that noice at almost 400k but only after a big deer. So no telling what it is.

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před měsícem

      😁😁😁

    • @charlieboy6885
      @charlieboy6885 Před 13 dny +1

      Well it’s called piston slap when the car gets old and has high mileage the piston and the cylinder gets worn out and the cylinder wall gets worn out it’s high tell tail the sign the engine is on its last legs

    • @Momalaka318
      @Momalaka318 Před 13 dny

      @charlieboy6885 sadly it wasn't doing that until after a deer hit it. Tore it up pretty bad got it put back together and catalytic converter went out and now this. It never had a sound she ran quiet, the only issue I ever had out of it before that was the alternators kept going bad.

  • @JaydenGonzalez-rs7le
    @JaydenGonzalez-rs7le Před 7 měsíci +1

    Oil change and a bottle of lucus

  • @CasualVox
    @CasualVox Před 11 měsíci

    Hmm, just bought 12 Forte that sounds just like this, everyone assured me it was "normal kia ticking" I'm pretty sure I got screwed over lol

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před 11 měsíci

      Hopefully you got it cheap. Best of luck. Thanks for watching!!

    • @CasualVox
      @CasualVox Před 11 měsíci +1

      @paycheckmonster unfortunately not. I actually used the last of my savings to buy it, it was $4,000
      I'm just going to drive it until it has a catastrophic failure and keep my fingers crossed it'll last a while.

    • @michaelcarpenter2013
      @michaelcarpenter2013 Před 9 měsíci +4

      I have a 2012 with 270,000 miles no issues

    • @brucepolaske6780
      @brucepolaske6780 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@CasualVox still going?

    • @CasualVox
      @CasualVox Před 5 měsíci +1

      @brucepolaske6780 no, it made it just under 500 miles and blew up. Ended up just cutting my losses and scrapped it.

  • @prettyboyjesse
    @prettyboyjesse Před 9 měsíci

    wheres the noise

  • @paulreimer7781
    @paulreimer7781 Před 7 měsíci +7

    these Kia 2.0 motors are TRASH. my friend purchased 2 new Kia cars, both motors failed catastrophic before 60,000 miles.

    • @paycheckmonster
      @paycheckmonster  Před 7 měsíci

      Kia and Hyundai have recently had some questionable engines that’s for sure. Thanks for watching!!

    • @logandonovan1267
      @logandonovan1267 Před 4 měsíci +1

      My dad has had his kia with the 2.0 in it for years and it's at 217,894 miles on it and has never had a problem with it

    • @charlieboy6885
      @charlieboy6885 Před 13 dny

      They can last for ever if you take care of them oil change at every 6k miles and transmission fluid at every 125k miles spark plugs at every 90k miles and air filter at every 25k and don’t put cheap gas in that can damage your car put premium only not the cheap gas

    • @jrockaz548
      @jrockaz548 Před 11 dny

      Ur tripping dog 😂I got one with 251k ur friend probably didn't do maintenance also one of the few small motors with an actual timing chain

    • @jrockaz548
      @jrockaz548 Před 11 dny

      ​@@logandonovan1267ppl don't do maintenance then blame the car

  • @osamaismail6682
    @osamaismail6682 Před 4 měsíci

    You get bad compressor, sir this noise came from compressor