John Curtice on Times Radio: Reaction as Suella Braverman warns Tories 'heading for defeat'
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2024
- Suella Braverman has warned the Tories under Rishi Sunak are "heading for defeat" at the general election - but appeared to rule herself out of an imminent leadership bid.
The former Home Secretary, who was sacked in November, said she is not planning to try to topple the under-fire before the country heads to ballot boxes. She admitted she is "very concerned" about the Tories' polling figures and the "uncomfortable" and "honest" truth was that the PM was heading for a defeat. She demanded the Government "go further" and show it was "serious about stopping the boats".
It’s not about the economy, it’s about honesty, leadership, integrity. They have none, they gotta go.
I have to agree. I have a friend who had a worker who he could not trust because time and again that person lied. Their ultimate performance was irrelevant and my friend could not rely on that person.
It is worth noting that if the UK's economic growth had been sustained at its pre-2010 trend, when the Conservative Party took over, the average person could have been £10,000 richer each year. The Conservative Party's economic policies have failed.
Greed has killed this country and privatisation
Lack of investment in right areas. Needed 3rd Heathrow runway, better transport links in the north too.
@Robc--jd6yh tories dont want to invest. They cut everything back.
Money + power = corruption.
Labour are just as bad when it comes to the nhs wanting private companies involved in the nhs and the same with reform. Obviously the tories have destroyed it to the point where its unfixable which is serious because obviously its leading to more death.
'The Liz Truss Fiscal Event' imagine having such a disaster with your name directly attached.
'The Premeditated Liz Truss Fiscal Event'...
Or 'That time the lettuce-brained f**kwit took a dump on the economy' as it's known in my household.
or even the brown bottom
She blames everything on the woke members in the Tory party and, of course, the Labour Party
If I ever start a prog rock band, this is what it'll be called.
Suella Braverman says “Tories, heading for a defeat” - my goodness, it is possible for her to say something that is actually true.
Who could have known?
Bet she wouldn't have said that if she was still Home Secretary.
It’s about the cost of living crisis and the NHS. The Tories have refused to do anything about either and just keep banging on about immigration.
“The Liz Truss fiscal event” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Economy bad for 4 years!! Im sure he missed a 1 out.
Economy bad for 14 years is a little nearer the truth. .
Tories made the UK eat austerity after the crash in 2009 and hey presto!..The mushrooming of food Banks ...
A rarity in politics, Sir John Curtice is someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
14 years of utter incompetence..... Don't forget don't forgive !!!!!!
I completely disagree. When it came to handing out vast quantities of taxpayers' cash to chums, for things like useless PPE and test and trace systems, they were quite brilliant.
Yes, one seat is one seat too many for the Conservatives.
Looking at the faces of BloJo, The Lettuce and Sunak when the results roll in will be sweet (but not fattening) revenge.
Half the Cabinet on the dole will be the cherry on the cake.
OUT! OUT! OUT!
Not incompetence. 14 years of transferring the wealth from the poor to themselves and their mates/donors.
Karma on its way for being greedy 😂
Don’t forget the blatant, self serving corruption.
When you say your government will be accountable and have integrity then it turns out to be neither you can't expect people to vote for you.
When Sir John speaks people listen.
He has not lived through the same last ten years that I have.
This is propaganda, he's desperate to narrow the focus when seeking whom to blame...
except regarding penny mordaunt
her swimsuit pictures made her an instant hit with all red blooded males
@kwanchan6745 HER Work as a USELESS MP in Portsmouth Makes her an INSTANT '"Bugger off" in Next G.E tho....
LIKE WHEN HE SAID LABOUR WOULD BEAT GEORGE GALLOWAY IN ROCHDALE
Full caps moron - labour did not stand in Rochdale , I know that’s hard for you to understand almost as hard as Curtis made the prediction before labour pulled out support for the candidate ….. ps please please do not cry
"Leveling up" and "Get Brexit DONE" won the 2019 election... not BoJo.
(btw another broken promise by the Tories)
BoJo won it. Do you think Corbyn would've won if he said "leveling up" and "Get Brexit DONE"? Of course not. Boris was the winner
I agree but I think it was 95% the ‘oven ready’ Brexit deal. People were heartily sick of the Brexit nightmare by then and wanted to believe Bozo could finally sort it. Wrong wrong wrong but it still didn’t stop him getting the majority he craved (and subsequently pi$$ed up a wall - or should I say ‘spaffed’)
A monkey could have won it through lies and popularism. @@DS9TREKEnough of charisma and career politicians and Tory classism dogma.
In Fact a monkey did. Or rather, Boris the Bufoon did. The country have had their eyes opened wide to what the Tories are all about through 4 failed Tory incompetent prime ministers.
It wasn't a single factor - Unpopularity of Corbin, single issue - Brexit and Labour mismanaging their campaign whist the Tories and BJ doing exactly what they had to do.
She’s one of the reasons they’re heading for defeat!
What a Lizaster.
The people in the UK need radical change.
In the house of commons, the lord's and politicians should answer to it's electoral not the whip. Currently the whole system is corrupt
As they say, I'm a simple person - I see a John Curtice video - I upvote!
Agreed. What John Curtice doesn't know about elections isn't worth knowing.
Previous 4 years....don't you mean previous 14 years!!!
Penny will loose her own seat! That's how incredibly charismatic she is... AND she's a back-stabber, remember that occasion when she repeated the question "the PM is not hiding under her desk". The UK doesn't deserve this.
Correction first moment was BREXIT Should never have been offered. BREXIT elephant in the room still. Continues to devastat the economy.....into the next decade. 😢
Yeah, f democracy
Utter rubbish
The first moment for me was austerity. Everything since has just been another item on the list.
@@Shikuesi You can change your mind. Why do you think we have elections every 5 years?
you missed an "s"
Imagine how much the tories have fucked it, if their own propoganda network (the times) has to reluctantly publish interviews like this
Cruella should become leader; she's more hated than Rishi and would lead them to a more catastrophic defeat.
Pure vengeance.
And yet she’s also mostly projecting her own myriad failures onto Sunak.
Yes, I agree she's very bitter. She's the only Home Secretary who's been sacked by 2 different PMs! In both cases, it was, of course, her fault entirely.
Yes, bring back Boris or Liz, that'll show 'em...it'll remind everyone how utterly incompetent they were as PMs.
Oh well, you can't win them all....
And let's hope no more for at least a decade, the best part of a generation to even start rectifying this goddam awful mess
Too much credit is given still to Boris the election winner. Major factors that lead to this were unpopularity of the opposition leader. Single issue election ( Brexit ) . Bad campaign by the opposition at the same time an organized good campaign run by the Tories.
It also didn't hurt that the majority of the British press are very much on the right. Even though Corbyn wasn't who I'd have like to have been running things at the time (I'd have preferred One of the Millibands personally), the press just made stuff up about him. I remember them labelling him a terrorist supported and sympathiser, then that rhetoric evaporating over night when the Tories had to form a coalition government with the DUP, who were genuine, actual, real world, as in literally in the original sense of the word terrorists.
The Earth will be the other side of the Sun at this rate.
It is worth noting that if the UK's economic growth had been sustained at its pre-2010 trend, when the Conservative Party took over, the average person could have been £10,000 richer each year. The Conservative Party's economic policies have failed.
She is very quick on the uptake. Most of us knew this a while back.
Why haven't you got it yet?
The Tories are finished.
Feel the burn Penny Mourdant 😂😂
14 years of incompetence and lies.
Tories are toast!
Greed is a Tory trait!!
It’s a shame that Starmer has pretty much said that Labour doesn’t have an answer to the problems though
As well as charisma, Johnson had Brexit. Even some remainers wanted us to stop fighting over it. Even Brexiters are admitting it has failed and no Conservative leader can use that positively in the way Johnson could in 2019. Any future Conservative leader would surely want to take over the party after a crippling election defeat rather than before one. We saw how fragile an 80 seat majority was in 2019 and many voters wil be voting against the Tories and Labour definitely have to improve things so there are opportunities in opposition. Also, the party needs to sort itself out. It currently doesn't know what it is and if it wants a future it needs to move towards the centre rather than the hard right Reform is occupying. Like Labour has done, it also needs to understand that its members will hold it back because ultimately the party has to represent the views of the country, not just a few.
An example of this is Boris Johnson. In 2019 he had a popularity that cut accross political parties but whilst he is still popular with the membership, he has lost that ability too cut across and actually is no longer an asset, which they fail to understand. Maybe he shoudn't have said it, but Sunak was right in stating that he received a hospital pass but Liz Truss is still popular with the membership when she is an even bigger liability than Johnson. Also, things will not improve to a point people will feel their lives have improved. It is crazy that the Conservatives think inflation halving will be a vote winner. Prices are still rising from a ridiculous point! Mortgages are still cripplingly high. You can't boast about these things that people are actually experiencing negatively and expect them to vote for you.
Someone finally asked the question! It is his entrance hallway. However, is he being interviewed there because has he just made it home in time for the interview.
Interesting. I'm wondering what she - as a past Cabinet member, considers to be her own role in this shift towards defeat? Or perhaps she has forgotten that she was a part of the Government?
The only thing that Boris was successful at was bullshitting
The interviewer says too much. He should follow Katie Gerbeau's way of asking a good question and then shutting up
I just watch this for the hallway, the Edwardian stained glass front door, high ceiling, panelled doors, posh tenement apartment.
She’s to busy fighting for israel
Sir John and Hall of Echoes.
Bravermans gifted to forecast that
thatchers legacy - UK 2024
This is the real truth and people are really seeing it now!
My my, Mr Curtice is a busy man these days 😉
Immigration, immigration, immigration!
Leaving the EU was a mistake. We must have a flush of the Tories who pushed it. Clue: do not do stupid things.
All the Charisma of a Lier and a dangerous narcissist
Respect John Curtis but don't understand his comment about the economy possibly saving Sunak as that is a total abysmal failure and its time any government running the country is punished which the Tories will certainly be.
Bojo and Truss - two of the worst PMs ever; Sunac not much better (couldn't be worse). They have scraped the bottom of the barrel!
"the Liz Truss fiscal event"?
Remember not all voters vote for their true beliefs A voter who has far right views may have voted Tory in the past because they're the closest choice they have, or they may vote Liberal to register an anti Labour vote if the Tories come third in their constituency.
Vice-versa a voter with left wing views may chose to vote Labour because Labour is the closest party that supports their views, or may vote Liberal because anyone's better than the Tories.
But this time it's different because the Tory vote has fell off a cliff.
That right wing Tory may now feel free to vote for Reform because their vote for the Tories won't make any difference, and likewise the left winger may feel free to vote for George Galloway's Workers party because the Tories won't get elected anyway.
I suspect there is going to be few unexpected surprises this time round.
What an irritating interviewer, as usual.
Former Tory MP, what do you expect.
lol, gift, ge now
This Tory herbert reminds me too much of Johnson in his speech and mannerisms. He even has the same weird hooded eyes.
Get the Tories out and get your getting Tory tribute act as a replacement. No change.
And you'd prefer a PLC instead, still gullible eh?
Well, that turned out to be a bit shit. Completely devoid of thought or was that the point? You've lost me.
The Tories have been 'heading for defest' for about three years. Braverman is hardly prescient.
She's likely one of the reasons considering how horrible she is.
Ppe contracts and with them partying during covid. The vaccines were also a con to make profit for the pharmaceutical companies. The care homes had the most deaths and the nhs staff just recieved a clap. Some people think the tories are great... yep for big business which I think needs a cut not the public services.
One looney Tory speaking to another looney Tory. Get over it you are finished!
John Curtice looks like a "Who"
What I'm hearing is that the Tories need to get Boris back as leader to stand a chance at the next GE.
Yes Johnson s current popularity of minus 23% ,and the fact 60 ministers resigned to make him quit will make things do much better 🤡🤡
@@Gary-le7dz So he is a bit more popular than Rishi, then?
What I'm hearing is Farage, even though he isn't an MP or a Tory. They'll make him a Lord so he can run.
@@Holliethedog
Ha ha ha ha.
That is funny.
It's cruel... but funny.
The fact it's also true...
As well as being cruel and funny.
@@dandycat2204 I believe Boris is keen to 'To Get Brexit Done!' again. That was the Tories best-selling slogan.
Charisma? All party leaders have the charisma of a wet potato - and the mental agility.
I don't want charisma in a leader. I want competency and integrity. Someone who knows what they're doing and gets advice from those who do when they don't. Someone boring who just gets on with it. It's like good plumbing. You don't notice the shit being flushed away until it isn't working properly.
@@TalesOfWar I totally agree with your sentiments. However the bulk of todays electorate live on Twitter, TicTok and social media. They have the attention span of a gnat and vote based on what they "like". Sadly no brain power is used in their choice. Hence the last set of leaders Boris et al.
Lat's not forget how exciting Johnson and Truss were during their time as leader.
Stella Braverman for PM and Pritti Patel for Chancellor their's charisma for you. Boris 2.0. Zero seats.
SUELLA SHOULD MOVE TO RWANDA SINCE SHE LIKES THE DECOR OF THE HOMES THERE FOR DEPORTED PPL FROM ENGLAND. I AM SURE SUELLA WOULD HATE IT AND COMPLAIN!! ITS A SHOW!
And you should be forced to pay for all the illegal immigrants 😅
@colingillett6447 I could afford it!! However not my mess...
@@justiceforall220 then stop criticising people that are trying to solve it
@@colingillett6447 What do you think we pay taxes for? We're spending far more not letting these people get here via safe and legal ways, and refusing to let them work or contribute to society while their claims are assessed like they do in proper, non-backwards countries. They could be paying taxes and not have to rely entirely on the grace of a cruel government who'd treat its citizens the same way if they legally could. Why do you think they want to get out of the European Convention on Human Rights? It's not so they can be nasty to foreigners, it's so they can be nasty to us too. The way a government treats immigrants is how they WANT to treat everyone.
Haven’t you heard, the homes in Rwanda have mostly been sold off to the locals! Who says the Tories can’t solve a housing crisis
Sunak is in this spot because of his constant lying on illegal immigrants putting them up in 5* hotels all inclusive while we starve and struggle to keep the lights on, and not tackling the two tier policing,
You know that's a lie right? They're not 5 star hotels. They cease to be that when they stop operating as hotels. They're not getting room service or fancy heated napkins soaked in orange after a meal. They use hotels because hotels are literally designed to hold as many people as possible. It's multiple families per room, and if you've ever been in a typical British hotel you know those rooms aren't exactly luxurious. You're being constantly lied to when people and the media tell you this is the case. Sunak is also lying to us all when he says they're dealing with it. The whole situation is designed to make the racists angry because they can blame the poor people in small boats for all the countries woes rather than the people actually in charge. They could genuinely fix the situation pretty quickly if they started to properly fund and staff the claim processing and allowed people to apply abroad from consulates and embassies. Literally the ONLY way you can claim asylum in the UK is to be IN the UK, and they offer no legal way to get here unless you're on a very tiny list of countries exempt from this. Right now I believe that's Ukraine and Hong Kong. Even a number of the Ukrainians we let in are now living on the streets because the state failed them. We're also the only country in the world who required them to apply for a FUCKING VISA to stay here! Everywhere else accepting them asked for nothing, knowing it was the right thing to do to let them be somewhere safe.
@@TalesOfWarYou're right, but I wouldn't bother replying to a two-year-old account that is quite possibly not an honest counterparty- there's a load of them around, stirring things up on both sides (I've even witnessed some bot-on-bot action, dragging in others into their completely fabricated 'argument'.) Good luck to you
why a blair and bush not in gaol for war crimes
Cos they won the war.
It was a totally illegal war, based upon a lie (non-existent WMD).
Nothing new, especially where America is concerned.