Buff & Debuff Guide [Octopath Traveler: Champions of the Continent]

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  • čas přidán 7. 08. 2022
  • Confused on how to optimize your buffs and debuffs in CotC? I don't blame you - there's a lot to figure out! Hopefully by the end of the video you'll have a good idea on how to best utilize your buffs and debuffs as well as how to craft your teams in a way that accommodates the various different caps!
    Can't find Octopath CotC in your app store? You might not be in a valid region - Check out this video on how to proceed and download/install the game!
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    Link to the CotC Discord I moderate: / discord
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Komentáře • 83

  • @NaelXO
    @NaelXO Před rokem +3

    I dig this guide. Some thing that tripped me in it was the use of "Damage Up." I've found that when looking at skills, I see "Raise 'X' damage by Y%", or just "Raise 'x' damage." Like Wingate's stack w/ Fiore.

  • @Protoman20xx99
    @Protoman20xx99 Před rokem +3

    Definitively gonna have to watch that one again lol. I've found my favorite part of your videos is watching all of the future content in the background!

  • @viviblue7277
    @viviblue7277 Před rokem +3

    Huh Billy having a monster of a special probably plays into the octuplets run being possible…eventually. But I’m building the account for it now! Rerolled into 7, hopefully I can pull Menny soon!

  • @alexiofranchioni
    @alexiofranchioni Před rokem +3

    I just wanted to say thank you for making these videos!
    They have helped me grasp so many things in the short time the game has been out for global.
    You are awesome 🙂

  • @mb6071
    @mb6071 Před rokem +5

    What a great guide! I hesitated at first, telling myself "not sure I'm gonna learn something but whatever"
    Damn after all this, I can say "I didn't know sh**"
    Thanks a lot! Plus, it was really well explained!

  • @driesverhaag8955
    @driesverhaag8955 Před rokem +2

    Amazing video, I am however not happy, because of the recent announcement that Prim will be the next banner traveler, but I will wait patiently for Daddy Albright to tell me how unparalleled his focus is.
    This is day 9 of playing without Cyrus.

  • @Boricosa
    @Boricosa Před rokem +8

    Thank you for this video! I have been wanting to build a team around Ice damage and I got really surprised by how much you were able to increase it! My highest damage so far is around 3 thousand, I got a long way to go😁

  • @cryomm90
    @cryomm90 Před rokem +2

    Just started the game as soon as I knew there was an OT mobile game haha... It's good to see we can count on someone to explain these kind of things in the future ! Thanks for this video

  • @SillyBilly22
    @SillyBilly22 Před rokem +1

    You make the best guides for CotC. Just commenting to bring this channel more attention.

  • @jrod7929
    @jrod7929 Před rokem +1

    Managed to snag 2x Lynette on the steps 3-5 of the Fiore/Sophia step up. Now desperately waiting for your Lynette video 😀

  • @elli27
    @elli27 Před rokem +2

    hey Shizukatz, a suggestion for further videos is to present what you are talking about exactly on the screen at the same time to aid in the explanation, for example @3:05 you are talking about how to distinguish the icon although you did explain it a visual would go a long way
    thanks for your videos!

  • @vagrant9538
    @vagrant9538 Před rokem

    Oml i have been WAITING for this tyty!

  • @themysteriousherb2081

    Not understanding anything, but still whooshed by how you are able to explain such a complicated thing. Great job, dude

  • @CS-kz5qi
    @CS-kz5qi Před rokem +1

    Thank you for the detailed explanation.
    Since global version is completely out of order, hope we can get Cyrus a lot sooner.

  • @centrabpm7362
    @centrabpm7362 Před rokem +3

    Awesome videos! Keep it up, you're helping a ton with these videos! I'm already familiar with Octopath somehow, because I played the Console Version. Yet, there's so much to learn in CotC. Also, I've 2 awakening stones for Lynette.. Am I safe to use one and keep one for her future Special?

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem

      Yes, feel free to use one if you have 2 :)

    • @centrabpm7362
      @centrabpm7362 Před rokem

      @@ShizukatzCotC Thank you. Also, Viola's Awakening Stone can be used right away, or is it advised to save hers as well if you only have 1?

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem

      Would use her's right away. Lynette keeps hers specifically.

  • @lostlong62
    @lostlong62 Před rokem +1

    I love your guides and they are very helpful, but your buff/debuff guide is a little bit misleading. I was initially led to believe that there are 4 categories of buffs: Skill, Passive, Special, and Damage up. But a JP person corrected me and it's more like this:
    There are 3 categories (Skill, Passive, and Special skill) and each category has 2 types of buff:
    - Atk/Mag (E.Atk) up
    - Weapon/Elemental dmg up
    Debuffs also share the same categories and types. In other words, debuffs have the same 3 categories (Skill, Passive, Special skill) and each category has 2 types of debuff:
    - Atk/Mag (E.Atk) down
    - Weapon/Elemental def down
    Therefore, there is 6 brackets of buffs and 6 brackets of debuffs, each with their own 30% cap. Special buffs/debuffs have unique rules as you pointed out.
    When I first watched the video and heard you say "All sources of damage up share the same 30% cap", I thought that you meant skill, passive, and special damage up share the same 30% cap, when that is not the case at all. It's better if you explain it like this instead of treating damage up as its own category.

  • @unseensounds
    @unseensounds Před rokem +1

    I've been awaiting this one, keep up the great content!

  • @kidshadow145
    @kidshadow145 Před rokem +2

    Appreciate the quality videos Shizu... now if only Square Enix will go easy on the banners...

  • @ronnymahendra9035
    @ronnymahendra9035 Před rokem +4

    Good to know that "more damage against x'd enemies" and generic damage up are same capped. I'm used to those boost calculated in multiplication in other games.
    I've been using Sofia+Wingate for a while, although fortunately my Sofia is not 50 yet so she still "benefits" from Wingate.

  • @xnag78
    @xnag78 Před 5 měsíci

    @ShizukatzCotC Great guide! Does boost/using bp affect buffs and debuffs?

  • @DarkestSamus1
    @DarkestSamus1 Před rokem +9

    I ~really~ like the way buffs and debuffs stack in this game; severity AND duration stacking is awesome! I also actually love the 30% caps, it forces some creativity and thinking rather than just stacking the same buff up to 100-200%. A very fine and informative video, thanks again!
    What was the approximate timeline for Specials being introduced in JP? I'm quite eager for them.

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +3

      Roughly around 1st Anniversary I believe. Bit of a ways off but will be a really exciting addition when it hits!

  • @roansythen
    @roansythen Před rokem +1

    Are you going to be putting out individual guides for every 5* or just the S tier ones?

  • @marceljohnson2215
    @marceljohnson2215 Před rokem

    Nicely done and nice account

  • @KnoxZone
    @KnoxZone Před rokem +1

    Time to rush out the Primrose guide video, since apparently that's the next unit we are getting. Global banner schedule is bonkers.

  • @marioromero2746
    @marioromero2746 Před rokem

    Thanks for this amazing video. Question
    So, Ultimates duration have their own duration that doesnt stack with any buffs that I already have.
    Lynette's ultimate has a duration of 2 turns (So if she acts last [in a full thief team for example], my thiefs will benefit from her ultimate only 1 turn, right?)

  • @ApathicCheese
    @ApathicCheese Před rokem +1

    So, special attacks came out when ?
    Since GL server is crazy wild with the banners and content, i wonder how they will deal with it.
    Last quick question, how to unlock them ?
    I was hesitating about awakening viola to +2.
    Thank you for the video, champ !

  • @leoaguiar8582
    @leoaguiar8582 Před rokem +1

    Would it be possible to add a Primrose comparison in the Lynette guide? Seems she will be coming to the game this week

  • @brunobaia7751
    @brunobaia7751 Před rokem +2

    great guide!
    question: if sofia received a skill based ice damage buff would that increase the damage considering she already has the passive ice damage buff of 30%? I'm in doubt because of the damage up cap

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem

      Yes, it would, but such an ability doesn't exist yet :)

  • @plasmask8
    @plasmask8 Před rokem

    nice video.

  • @hugonoya
    @hugonoya Před rokem +1

    Hey man waiting on your vídeo about primrose! I know she is good but cant decide about pull or dont ... im ftp and i have only 1.1k gems .... any advice? Ty i dont have lyneett, i do have fiora, sofia and viola.

  • @jayjolito1892
    @jayjolito1892 Před rokem

    Do you have a reference guide of all the different buff/debuff and also ailment icons. I get lost of what’s what exactly.

  • @user-yq6tr3yk1r
    @user-yq6tr3yk1r Před rokem +1

    Buff and debuff matters a lot without them you will do no damage and you will be very vulnerable

  • @wawrzon85
    @wawrzon85 Před rokem

    Awesome video. Very informative, however I noticed 2 inaccuracies, I would love if you could clarify them.
    1. For active buffs/debuffs, after applying them from 2 sources to hit the cap, do I have to re-apply both to maintain buff at cap or like with duration - any single one maintains capped buff ?
    2. Doesn't DMG UP also have subcategories for weapon/elemental specific ? In case of Scarecrow/Wingate, giving him a emblem accessory doesn't hit DMG UP cap if he uses wind attacks, since bow DMG doesn't apply there. Or am I wrong ?

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +1

      1. You do not have to reapply both. Reapplying either one will extend the duration for the full potency of the buff.
      2. Yes you are correct. Basically the Dmg Ups will stack as long as it is the applicable damage type. Sorry for the confusion.

  • @bassisafish
    @bassisafish Před rokem +2

    How does Theo's status resist passive work? It says it gives 50% to paired allies, so I'm assuming that the 30% cap doesn't apply to status resistance?

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +1

      Ailment Resistance simply gives what it says, it doesn't abide by the 30% caps like the buffs and debuffs explained in the video.

  • @DarkestSamus1
    @DarkestSamus1 Před rokem

    Sorry for a new comment on an older video, Shizukatz, but how did you generate that in-battle buff description list for your Cyrus that is shown in the thumbnail? Is that feature missing for EN right now? Thanks in advance.

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +1

      Yea this is currently JP only I believe.
      It's accessed by clicking a character then clicking the topleft corner diamond where the turn counter would normally be.

  • @DreamblitzX
    @DreamblitzX Před rokem +1

    Ones that are same unit and same % still stack if they're on different skills right?
    e.g Sophia's -15% ice resist on wild icewind and raging icewind stack together for 30%?
    Also do passive and active buffs of the same type will stack together normally with potency up to 30% and duration? or do each have their own 30?

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem

      They do stack up to 30%, yes.
      As for Passive and Active buffs of the same type - they go towards their own 30%.

  • @camovehia
    @camovehia Před rokem

    Do passive resistances work the same way? E.g. Gilderoy has 20% Wind resistance from passives. Buffing him with Theo's 20% Wind resistance and Mabel's 15% Wind resistance, does he reach 56% Wind resistance (20% multiplicative with 30%)?
    Assuming he can receive resistance from other sources, is it possible to reach 100% Wind resistance and become immune to the element?

  • @ok-ue4ub
    @ok-ue4ub Před rokem

    Do you think you could make a video on the 3 stars? I went back to watch your vid on the 4 star characters and noticed that you mention some of them. I was wondering if you could give your evaluation on all of the 3 stars. If it's not too much trouble of course. Also when i went to pull for heathcote i got viola(whom you stated would be useful long in the run)instead. Should i keep pulling for heathcote? After all, the reason i went for him is because i wanted one more 5 star and i did get one, just not him. One more thing, how do i gain access to the nut manual? it doesn't show up in the exchange for me. Do i need to complete more of the story? Sorry for the long comment.

    • @RealRamaladni
      @RealRamaladni Před rokem

      To gain the nut manual, you must reach Clearbrook. Just keep doing the Master of All questline. You Entreat the item from an old man.
      As for Heathcote, Shizu made a video on him. He's not really worth it.

    • @ok-ue4ub
      @ok-ue4ub Před rokem

      @@RealRamaladni I see thanks for the information.

  • @metb235
    @metb235 Před rokem +2

    How does elemental resistance work? Sophia’s Wild Icewind lowers ice resistance by 15%. Does that mean she deals an extra 15% ice damage on any enemy with this debuff? Do all enemies have innate elemental resistance that can be lowered?

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +2

      Each enemy has their own innate resistance stats, yes. Typically that stat is just the same across all elements, but they need to be separate in order to be able to lower each separate elemental resistance via debuffs.

  • @DanTheMeek
    @DanTheMeek Před rokem +2

    Do buffs, buff characters or rows? I feel like since I have lynette, the best play is almost always to be swapping her in and out every turn, but if buffs are character based and not row based, any buffs to her or whoevers behind/front of her get largely wasted, throw in constant switching for healing/boosting, and I haven't been using buffs much since people rarely stay out long enough to take advantage of them before they're swapping, but if the buffs are row based and not character based, that would make them far more useful.

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +1

      Buffs are applied to the character, not the row. Obviously yes it does mean that whoever is behind Lynette doesn't benefit from the 20% buff, but they can still be affected by the 10% passive buff.
      This is another reason why Lynette is best suited to pair with a non-Damage oriented unit such as a healer or debuffer (like Theo or Viola as examples in the video).

    • @DanTheMeek
      @DanTheMeek Před rokem

      @@ShizukatzCotC Okay, that's what I figured, really appreciate the confirmation and all your great content!

  • @pokeaholic123
    @pokeaholic123 Před rokem

    Will there be a video about smithing, I’ve gotten a few innocent weapons yesterday

    • @pokeaholic123
      @pokeaholic123 Před rokem

      And are innocent weapons better then meteorite weapons?

  • @Iskander_IA
    @Iskander_IA Před rokem

    How i get , skilled hunters emblem?

  • @KAL100
    @KAL100 Před 3 měsíci +1

    come back ! and update this . u have a whole year worth of content pending

  • @drowningin
    @drowningin Před rokem +1

    I've tried doing max buff for p.atk up for 2 rounds. It didn't increase the number of rounds it remained 2.
    Since then I've kinda been avoiding buffs for now

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem

      What chara/skill was it?

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin Před rokem

      @@ShizukatzCotC Idk it was on launch day and chars I haven't used since then. I just know it was 2 turn p.atk

  • @puglover4269
    @puglover4269 Před rokem +1

    Does regen item and theons regen stack up??? Or if i use theo only his regen will work?

  • @ChrisZ901
    @ChrisZ901 Před rokem

    Does accessory buffs such as wind rune stack with passive skills such as wind argument?

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +1

      They do indeed. And as mentioned in the video, the two share a 30% Cap. So on a character such as Sofia who already gets 30% Ice Damage Up, an Ice Rune would be useless on her.

    • @ChrisZ901
      @ChrisZ901 Před rokem

      @@ShizukatzCotC Got it. Thanks for the clarification! Really appreciate it!

  • @mythcraft3445
    @mythcraft3445 Před rokem

    when you use this many debuffs tho cant you use a nuke that the boss is not weak to and kill them anyway. idk how viable it is late game but ive been doing like aslyte viola lynette sofia and its just been taking everything out

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +2

      It becomes much less viable late game, as you surmised.

  • @ronnymahendra9035
    @ronnymahendra9035 Před rokem

    Quick question, so can Sofia's 2 hit and 3 hit ice resist skill stack with each other?

    • @Lifemourne
      @Lifemourne Před rokem

      It stacks the duration.

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem

      It stacks both in effectiveness and duration. Using both will lower the enemy's Ice Def Down by 30%.

    • @Lifemourne
      @Lifemourne Před rokem

      Ah, I thought you were asking if the individual hits of the skill stacked together. I didn't think of using both skills separately!

    • @ronnymahendra9035
      @ronnymahendra9035 Před rokem

      Thanks a lot, i just replaced the 2 hit for the 3 hit, ill put them together now with the nuke then

  • @sebastianphilipps1754
    @sebastianphilipps1754 Před rokem +1

    Ok so if I have a 10% def up skill that lasts for 2 turns, and I apply a 20% def up skill that lasts for 2 turns after the first one, that will get you to 30% def up for 4 turns, and when you re-apply any of those you'll still have the 30% plus the extra turns you applying? I thought i had to re-apply both buffs, like they are running in different instances of the same buff icon? Hard to explain lol.

    • @ShizukatzCotC
      @ShizukatzCotC  Před rokem +2

      You are 100% correct. Anything you reapply afterwards will just extend the duration. The only time you have to reapply everything is if the entire buff runs out.

    • @sebastianphilipps1754
      @sebastianphilipps1754 Před rokem +3

      @@ShizukatzCotC Thanks, I had a great teacher.

  • @milo5547
    @milo5547 Před rokem

    How did you save 15,000 rubies!!??!

    • @fabio4561
      @fabio4561 Před rokem

      Hes playing since the release so 2 years already, unless is buying crystal from jp server

    • @harumachibito105
      @harumachibito105 Před rokem

      He never pulls Lmao but when he pulls he gets lucky pulls a lot in JP so far there is 148 travelers. 119/148 with seldom pulling is very very lucky draw.

  • @atreyu_08
    @atreyu_08 Před rokem

    How to do u have 16k gems

    • @miniwing
      @miniwing Před rokem

      JP version has been out for 1 year 9 months.

  • @Maveroik
    @Maveroik Před rokem +1

    You said you would be more careful with you background videos... Thanks you for the spoil. :/ Thank for the video guide too.