Upgrading the Poseidon Norton Hardtail MTB
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Those Gran Turismo clips are the best!
just ordered this frame an hour ago. Can't wait to get it.
GRAN TURISMO SOUNDTRACK!!! HAHAHA soooo goood
Can not friggen wait for these to be available! Sold my hardtail for a big squish e bike that’s been in the shop for a month now. I’m impatiently waiting for these to be available!
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Reeally like the slammed look of the stem!
Ach witzig euch auch hier zu sehen
HAHAHAHAH why the frig did that get in there
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Could u have put the stem upside down to give u more height on the bars?
From looking at it, it looks like if it were upside down it would make the geometry and the way it rides weird.
DMR makes a great ultra short stack stem. I had to use one on my trail bike because of a similar situation
I had a customer show up looking for a new dropper post last week.
His DMR dropper was broken off just below the seatpost clamp. That's the first time I've seen a failure like that! Ive seen ultra light carbon and aluminum posts break though. I cracked a Litespeed titanium stem.
The post gave him a giant bruise on his gut. He was lucky he wasn't impaled or castrated. Truly terrifying.
I'm a retired mechanical inspector from mostly high reliability industries. I can't believe the shit quality in the bike industry, yet there's a sucker born every minute.
I even worked at Rockshox years ago. I'll never buy one of their forks either!
try a DMR stem!!! they are surprisingly short (in regard to steerer tube length)
It looks SO good!!
I have always loved the look of that stem on any bike it gets thrown on
The negative rise stem reminds me of a canyon pretty cool dude
I love it from some angles and others I'm a little more meeehhhhh about it
Just mullet it baby! 29 on front to ease the negative degrees in the stem but definitely shorter stem. You my friend have planted an evil seed on my brain, now I need to get me one of those frames
Now this gets me excited for when the bike is actually for sale, this is something like I would actually do to this bike, I honestly think the stem looks cool on that bike too.
Frame only... Well I do have a crack in my existing frame. I'm a boost hub away from having everything I need.
i love the gt refrences😍
I fairly recently sold my Soma Analog whilst trying to convince myself that my Specialized FatBoy can work as the hardtail in my stable. But, with the Norton dropping as a frame only, my Siskiu T7 might be looking at some Nukeproof wheels and an upgraded fork...
Is it possible to use the stem upside down?
I wish I had your influence with Poseidon. I have a short laundry list of changes I would love to see on a "Gen 2" Redwood.
The idea of a do-it-all (almost all) bike is great in a world where bikes are getting crazy expensive and it is not feasible to buy 3 different bikes, but the bike has a bit of an identity crisis. The designers kind of missed the reality of what people are realistically going to buy and use this bike most for. Maybe, they did not have that foreknowledge, but seeing as they now know who their market is, some minor revisions would be nice.
Put simply, this is a budget bikepacking and casual gravel or very light singletrack riding oriented bike first and foremost; followed by a gravel racing bike a distant second; followed by an even more distant slightly rougher terrain singletrack bike third. A commuter bike is in there also, but againt its an edge case - pedaling to Trader Joes is not why most people are buying this.
In otherwords, few are truly buying this as their first mountain bike even though that is a viable use case. Also, very few gravel racing-specific oriented guys are buying a 28 pound bike to race with. It can (and has) been upgraded to get it down to 23 to 24 pounds, but at a bit of expense.
Since it is realistically a bikepacking bike, Poseidon should tweak it as follows:
1. 20mm taller stack. It is way to agressive for endurance riding. 20mm is a reasonable goldilocks figure (a size large should be 600mm stack not 577. For refetence, 625 to 630 is considered tall stack, so this should be a good compromise).
2. Seat tube needs to be lowered a little for more top tube slope which is a borderline necessary feature forbikepacking on tougher terrain. Again, a nice compromise value would suffice. 520mm as opposed to 550mm for size large. That will still keep a decent size main triangle area so you have good room for a frame bag unlike mountain bikes with unreasonable steep top tubes.
3. Add two top tube mounts for a bento box / feed bag. This costs the company practically nothing. Again, this is clearly a bikepacking bike more than anything, so direct mount options are a super desireable feature.
4. Throw a matte clearcoat on their green frame. A single coat. Thin. Anything would help. The paint comes off too easily.
5. They should partner with State bicycle (or whoever is making that monster fork for them) and offer that fork as an option on their website, or just do an "upgrade" option over the heavy aluminum fork. I know to keep it a budget bike, they do not want to get into "upgrade" options, but so many people are upgrading to the State fork anyway because that aluminum fork is a boat anchor. Thats almost half the reason the bike is 28-plus pounds.
6. The stock tires are two big. Again, the bike has sn identity crisis and cant decide what it is. What it is NOT is a mountain bike, and it really does not need 2.35 inch tires on there. That is part of the weight issue. They should put 48c or 2.25 inch at most. Even the more extreme bikepacking routes rarely necessitate more than a 2.25 inch tire. For a do-it-all bike, they need to spec parts that make sense and actually are useful across the range of most uses and stay away from extreme edge cases.
7. Head angle is 71 degrees. Should be 69'ish. No particular reason an off-road bike should have that steep angle (which may necessitate lengthening top tube a tad to compensate).
Okay. I'm done dreaming now about what the Redwood -could- have been (similar to Pipedream A.L.I.C.E. but fully built, and at a better price point).
Looks pretty dope.
DMR Defy Stem and some proper hydraulic Brakes and this thing is sick!
Cant wait till the frame becomes available!
Looks cool.
Really dig your vids! Would a 27.5 x 2.5 max is hookworm fit the Norton?
Flip the stem from -17 deg to +17 deg
Looks fast!
also big up for the gt4 music
Sick looking bike. I totally dig the negative rise stem. I think it looks mean.
Dunno. With a 27.5 wheel, the bars look really low.
Perfectly random video!
nice rig
Fox factory Shakira coated fork - the bits don't lie!! Mmmmm!!! But serious value increase for a reasonably priced bike...
The tinker must happen. Besides, the fox is just collecting dust otherwise
is this UDH compatible?
You're right, it looks sik! GT interludes were *chef's kiss*
That Gran Turismo bit was awesome and now I gotta reconnect the PS3 and play again
What size tires will fit ??? 2.6
Siiiiick!
I only run negative 17 deg stems unless I have to go "Full Tinker" on some taller bike to have enough "SlamDatt".
PS couldn't you just flip the seem to make it a riser? wrap the logos with some bar tape if that's what bugs you & pass it off as padding.
I think Eric has a moral aversion to positive rise in his stem?
That slammed, negative rise stem are lookin sick ngl
Regarding the short steerer tube, aren't there any fork tuning shops which can replace it near to you? As it is still a factory fork it could be worth the price
looked into this, I may give it a whirl next year
@@Spindatt How much extra steerer do you need? A company called Velobike make a steerer tube extender up to 18mm, it's basically a compression plug like you'd use on a carbon fork but with an extended top section that you can clamp to. There's also some no-name Chinese knock offs if you want to up the sketch factor. Should be enough for you to use an ordinary stem.
I like like like it… I also like the trials you road this thing on.
Are the dropouts adjustable or fixed? Would be a nice singlespeed option.
Fixed
@@Spindatt thanks! …. Be a lot cooler if they weren’t.
Frame only option you say....immediately starts looking up how to turn this thing into a Norton Drop Bar MTB!
that's an easy one! Drop bars and and appropriate levers.
@@Spindatt I live in Southern New Brunswick with lots of rocks and rough logging trails, do you think this frameset could be a potential "Gravel" bike? Also, your content is awesome, keep it up!
I’m infinitely happy you Canadians weigh in lbs. F-ing love that color!
The Gran Turismo music was appreciated, but the Gran Turismo reveal music was amazing lol
Because this is a race car channel, i was also interested in the winter tires behind the Norton. Michelin X-ICE?
Dmr sells a super short stack (27mm) called the Defy … this saved me once and can be found for $60 online
How am I supposed to pay attention when you have the Cinelli back there lookin' so flossy?! Lol love the Gran Turismo tunes and I'm diggin' the slammed stem look more than I should..... Now convert it to single speed to see how light it can get!
Hambini recently featured a steerer tube extender....
Nice tache.
Such a cool hoodie.
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GT music really fits your channel I feel lol
Also, what happened to the Moab 1? Seems to have donated many parts for other builds 🤔
the straight top tube / seat stay makes this frame look so good
god your moustache is amazing
Flip stem upside down?
OMG😳Anyone Google the price of a Syntace Megaforce?!Wow that’s an expensive stem Eric!😮😉
Check out the Diety Defy stem. Short stack, but high rise.
I jus got one for my Marino because I spec’d it with a long headtube that I don’t happen to have a long enough steerer for. 😂
It showed up!
@@Spindatt not yet. Still in route. I just initially planned to to run a SID ultimate but I just couldn’t stomach spending 1K on a fork… so I’m just using a 120mm I already have.
When the fiancé is away, we steal her wheels and play 😈
Some forks weigh alot alot. Like the suntour fork on my marin is around 7lbs or 3000+ grams. Easily 2 to 3 lbs more than other options!!
gran turismo vibes
How tall are you? Do you find that you prefer a smaller frame due to your BMX background?
I like smaller frames for playful bikes
Make it come in black and white
Lol, is that the gran turismo music? takes me back
The Gran Turismo music 😩
Dropper stem?!
Nice 'stache!
Thanks!
New merch in time for holidays?
I'd invert the stem.
fuck yessssssss
Was that Pink Floyd The Wall? (@7:30)
Getting an oil change and a wash
Cool
I guess I picked the wrong month for the cheesy mustache contest
me too
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Norton is your dog right? Will he be getting a sponsorship?
Wait what?….it’s only going to be sold as a frame….that’s lame. Was looking forward to this the release to This bike
Hopefully a production frame will come from the factory without the mud. I mean my mud... Fine. Someone else's mud? No bueno
zero stack for life
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you might want to fix your patreon situation, that's a profile that shows who you support and doesn't have any option to actualy patreon you
I deleted it actually! Taking everyone’s money and literally providing nothing in return was cripplingly filling me with guilt lol
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Nice but the stem looks terrible
I notice that you have been very aggressive lately.
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