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A playmaker who scores more than the goalscorer there is no debate.
Now just call him a playmaker as if thats all he is, Theyre both playmakers and Goalscorers, This is a stupid comment
@@danielmagnos3768 Ronaldo ain't a playmaker he Job is not to create chances his Job is to finish The chances messis Job is to create chances for others
@@danielmagnos3768ronaldo's priority was to become the best, while messi's priority was to make his team the best. That guy (ronaldo) literally raged if his team won but he didn't score. How could you say he's a playmaker?
@@danielmagnos3768ronaldo aint no playmaker
@@wcapina1087u don’t know anything about football if u think creating space isn’t being a playmaker no defenders just watch him run behind the defence because someone else is controlling the ball for 3 seconds
still doesn’t change the fact that Magurie has more champions league goals than Rashford this season
Still doesn’t change the fact Rashford has scored more goals than you
@@6TheButcherhe’s trying to be funny and tell everyone who’s the real goat
@@6TheButcherstill doesn’t change the fact you’re meatriding
@@6TheButcher than you too
@@6TheButcherstill doesn’t change the fact y’all united fans are deranged, deluded cry babies
Argentina narrowly missed out on a spot in the 2006 World Cup semi final, if they had then Messi and CR7 would’ve faced each other in the 3rd place game.
Dang imagine 😮💨🔥
But Argentina has never lost a World Cup semifinal in the 93 years of the tournament, history dictates they wouldn't lose to Italy on that instance.
With all due respect , they weren't beating that Italian team , that defence was to strong and maldini was not even there@@BladeXRG
@@klif4755 in 1990 Italy reached the semifinals without conceeding any goals, and Argentina had barely made it out of the group stage in a group with Cameroon and Romania, and got to the semifinals scoring only four goals in five matches; what was arguibly the best defense in World Cup history lost to one of the most inconsistent Argentina squads at home. And fun fact, Italy has never even tied, let alone beat Argentina in the last 33 years; it's plausible that Riquelme, Tévez and Crespo could have knocked out Italy.
ok and? That doesn't mean much , just because they never lost a semifinal doesn't mean they were winning that one@@BladeXRG
"Messi,a playmaker with 800+ goals, a goal scorer with most assists"
He is a better creative midfielder than the best midfielders we have seen play the game, he literally controls the game
And this doesn’t even mention his dribbling.🐐
Messi is the best goal scorer of all time, if you don't believe me, check his stats at a thousand games. Why 1k games? Because that is an objective way to compare CR7 and Messi. He has more goals, more assists, more cups, more dribbles, more everything than CR7 at 1k games.
@@bensonchatfield4849yes bro absolutely messi is the greatest goal scorer ever , greatest assister ever , greatest dribbler ever and even in top 5 playmakers of all time , more trophies , more individual awards so what's the point of debate !?
@@bensonchatfield4849 And a lot more MOTMs and 10/10s
*MATURITY IS WHEN YOU REALIZED, IT WAS NEVER A DEBATE* ✌🇮🇳
Exactly. Atleast WC settled it.
I matured very earky then. 2011 is when I stopped deluding myself.
I assume that you are a penaldo fan.....😂😂😂😂😂😂 from ---🇮🇳
@@diago4 wdym he is a Messi fan
@@diago4he means messi is goat and should not be compared to cr7
what a time to be alive, these guys are league above the rest
In only achievement and nothing more
an STILL both are above the rest
@@godwinolorunjuwon8074rewatch the entirety of football bro
@@godwinolorunjuwon8074 goals, assists, records
@@godwinolorunjuwon8074Beside all that trophies, Considering Footballing abilities Messi is Far away, just some levels above cr7. No other player comes close to Messi except cr7
I'm yet to see someone play like Messi,..he's sth we call DIFFERENT
maradonna
@@bigdaddygerono. Maradona didnt score many goals
@@bigdaddygero Maradonas highlights look similar but his statistics and trophies weren't even close to messis tally and messi did it for way longer than Maradona
@@wcapina1087maradona wasn’t maradona almost every game but messi was
@@darwinodriscoll7750 exactly
Messi is just a marvel to watch he does everything
FFS that debate ended when Messi was in his mid 20's
This debate only started because Ronaldo played for Madrid. They were never on a remotely similar level as players, Messi clears.
@@hiphopriffs7775 exactly but it ended in 2012 for me
@@shadow-man8715But ronaldo made a great comeback in 2016-18. Now its definitely over tho after Messi won the wc
@Rapidfire107 kid pessi is only Barcelona product because of Barcelona pessi is alive player even pessi has admitted.😂
@@hiphopriffs7775 and u kids think wc is everything but u didn't see how good was argentina and how bad is Portugal. Before pessi argentina won two wc and 14 cope america while without Ronaldo Portugal only 3 wc qualification. Ronaldo international>>>>> pessi international 😂 go watch football.
That's a good representation of Messi and Ronaldo. Messi is both one of the best finishers, AND one of the greatest captain of the offense in terms of assisting others. Both Ronaldo and Messi had two of the top teams in football around them during their entire club careers until lately. I also must say that Messi is possibly the best dribbler the world has ever seen, going through several opponents like it was nothing, in his prime, sometimes 4 and 5 defenders at the same time!
I think Ronaldinho is the best dribbler the world has ever seen
@@jovanidivine5606 I disagree. I think Messi is the best dribbler in terms of efficiency and players dribbled past, while Ronaldinho was by far the most spectacular dribbler to watch
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Neymar is better in drible than Ronaldinho, imagine Messi, Ronaldinho has better skills, but he is definitely not the best dribbler
@@jovanidivine5606 You are almost right, he dusn't use his real name because there was and is only one Ronaldo.
Ronaldo was a better dribbler when he was just a talent as Ronaldinho is his prime.
@@giovannigio3764no I don’t think so. With the eye test you can easily see Ronaldinho wasn’t all fun and games. He actually tried to dribble past people
Man I will never forget those days of Messi vs Ronaldo el classico matches.😢 I’m so blessed to have been alive to watch these 2 goats play at the same exact time
Messi, the greatest creator of all time, outscored every goal scorer in the world for well over a decade straight. That defies logic. He was the complete package.
Ronaldo still has more goals
lol over 150 more games@@mr.spidey89
@@mr.spidey89 Messi has better scoring ratio
@@mr.spidey89agreed bro . Messi has more goals than Cristiano in Europe top 5 league . Messi has more goals and assist in Europe . That is fact . Saudi and MLS are retirement place and messi don't even care . Messi hunger has ended after winning wc because he completed his career. While ronaldo is still hungry because he want to win wc 2026 .
@@vibe7416 not my fault that Messi was good only wile playing in Barcelona, don’t justify his shortcomings that way
When we just look at them on social media we might feel that Ronaldo is a better player because of his physic, face, lifestyle, abs etc
But as soon as both of them touch the ball with their feet you can clearly see the difference about how far superior Messi is
You said it better.
ronaldo joined real madrid in 2009 and almost has the same amount of goals in el clasico while messi was there in barcelona
GOAT CR7
@@MJI409Messi became a starter in 08
He was 20
Messi was around good players if u swap messi to madrid and ronaldo to barc the same thing will have happened
@@rtqoh64 No, Messi started 23 matches in 06/07 and 23 matches in 07/08
Messi is clear.
CR7 is not even the best Ronaldo
Blud is joking 😃🤡
Cristiano Ronaldo is better than any Ronaldo nazario
There's no debate 🤡✌️
thats just simply hating my brother
Brother didn’t mention Messi has 7 la la Liga 2 Ronaldo during this era
Ronaldo has 4 ucl during this era 😂😂
Messi has 4 and ronaldo 5 but where is the wc or 44 trophies @@therealflash405
@@therealflash405we’re any of those UCls against Messi? The one time CR7 bested Messi he didn’t even score or assist, Paul scholes scored a screamer. Since then Messi beat him TWICE on the biggest stage (UCL 2009, UCL 2011.. we’re talking about Messi vs Ronaldo not CR7 success with Madrid who had a world class team
@@moisesvirgen7711 like 5 other teams were class too if Messi was good he would have stayed in the ucl and carried his team, but I guess that’s not for everybody
@@therealflash405 he carried Barca even after neymar left.. did we forget 2019 where he almost single handedly took Barca to a final if it weren’t for that horrible 2nd leg. Messi was by far THE BEST player in the world, VVD was elite and so was CR7 but VVD was overhyped for that season. Like fr fr, I watched Liverpool from the beginning of the season and you can’t tell me that VVD was the main reason they got where they got. They had a world class Salah, world class mane and the whole team was in its prime. Unfortunately, they were only two season wonders, Messi on the other hand has carried abysmal Barcelona teams since the days of KOEMAN. Look at Barca now, they treat getting to the QF as success, without Messi they took a massive dive in quality. Look at Madrid, they went on to win another champions with a world class benzema leading the team. Just watch the teams now bro, and tell me which team misses Messi or Ronaldo more…. Who knows when Barca will be back to its former glory days, because since Messi left they’re basically arsenal level.
The difference is Messi can score 3 and feed 3 more to his teammate.. Ronaldo can't do that
Messi is so good that even if he doesn't score he can still give a MOM performance with his playmakings..
Ronaldo is great Goalscorer Messi is just complete package
You said it better.
No doubt 💀
Ronaldo in man utd, you havent seen him play huh
That’s until, cirstiano came back, plus Messi’s whole, career has ligit been in Barca ligit almost where he can easily assist players like Xavi, Puyol, Inesta, Neymar, Suearez, Pique and more, Ronaldo had to do it himself pretty much in Madrid, that’s why he was able to score more goals than Messi. If cirstiano had all those players to help him get assisted and get goals from, then what? Messi just had a better advantage just saying.
@@user-ns1lq9wz2f hahaha bro go and watch how many chance's, through balls and passes Messi creates in every match..Messi literally made two of the greatest assists in last world cup..
If there was ever a debate, it got completely destroyed after Messi leading Argentina to win the world cup, Ronaldo is not even in the top 3 list of the most winning players of all time, only Messi, Alves and Iniesta are leading that list, where is Ronaldo then? he is not even in the top 3 of the list.
Unfair comparison
One guy is a targetman
Other is a playmaker
But why the playmaker guy has more goals 😂
messi vs ronaldo debate only existed because of stats, anyone who who says they prefer ronaldo over messi clearly havent watched a full 90 min match in their life.
Don't you see the teammates and assist provider of the playmaker huh ??😂😮 Meanwhile Ronaldo took some time to adapt himself in la liga after coming from man utd
@@titanium6016adapt . How much time you want to adapt . In UCL Madrid is superior everyone know . But in 9 years in Spain ronaldo won only two laliga .
@@atuljha438 can you even understand the meaning of adapt ? Huh? Unlike the one club wonder who has just better stats than Ronaldo (not very much)
@@titanium6016 one club wonder 😂😂 . In PSG Messi plays as a midfielder not a attacker . Mhbappe plays as attacker . Then also won wc after going to PSG . Your greatest goal scorer didn't even have single goal in wc knockout match . We know who Is real fraud . Messi have 16 goals and 16 assist in his second season in PSG after having bad season .
The debate ended in 2008 when messi faced man united in the champions league...get over CR7 fans...
2009* and It wasn't Ronaldo's fault, and in 2008 man united have won against Barcelona 😐
@@Ali-ov6myit wasn't Ronaldo's fault, but Messi's brilliance. That shows who's better doesn't it?
Lets forget abt the messi and ronaldo debate for a second. Real madrid having arguably the best defense of the time was conceding the exact same goal over and over again
Can people stop hyping Madrid defense already? The central backs were thugs who lacked tact, calmness and composure, just playing dangerously and that’s what Messi likes so he fucked them over and over again.
@@nathanakobe5304 Fax 😂
@@nathanakobe5304 And so did other team because when Messi here everyone panic. They even tried to injure Messi....
best defense, Ramos, Pepe, Casemiro, Marcelo, etc. Thugs.
@@nathanakobe5304 Yes!!!!
Messi is diffrent species 😈
The MLS fans fill the stadiums with Messi jerseys on, they applaud and celebrate Messi whereas the Saudi league fans either don't show up or taunt Ronaldo with Messi chants. This shows how the Messi vs Ronaldo debate has been concluded.
SUCH BRAINLESS COMMENT ALHILAL FANS CHANT MESSI. THEY ALSO CHANTED RONALDO DURING MIAMI VS ALHILAL MWTCH. IN USA OPPONENT FANS HAVE DONE CR7 CHANTS TAUNTING MESSI ALSO A FAMOUS ATHLET MEANS AMERICAN FOOTBALKER DID SUII BEFOR LEO MATCH. 😂
The same MLS Fans of Montrey fc stepped on Messi Jersey when they lost in CONCACAF cup and Chanted Ronaldo name
Some of them even Hanged up his jersey over messi own
Exactly look at his assist numbers overall or in this comparison he is a complete footballer a playmaker a goal scorer a talent that will not be soon in near future he is special🦍
He used to play as a false nine
Creating chances is what makes you a playmaker not assists
@@nio3500 yes false 9 and rwf
@@everythingsfine1395 you think Messi doesn't create chances? Assist are chances successful that's why it's a goal and counted as an assist also Messi creates space for attackers by dividing defenders for spaces he is completely player
@@Menace.2.
Messi is the best playmaker to ever exist , i just told you
I love both Messi and Ronaldo as players, but by simple math and logic Messi had better stats on everything
Yep!
This debate ended in 2022 when Messi won the world cup and a final conclusion was added when he won the 8th ballon d'Or and now his on the 3rd place for the IFFH player of the year 2023🎉
the debate ended in 2010 because by then anyone who actually watched football knew who was the greatest of all time
@Jokerxeno1 agreed. By 2009 even Xavi barcelona future captain called it that Ronaldo is better and wishes he came to barca
by 2012!!
Nah. If cr7 scored 1 gosl in wc knock-out stage in 2026 wc. He will surpass messi according to his fans.
@@imaxtranhvac-rdienlanhusa9822he already surpassed him and everyone knows it except messi fans. Even Xavi, Barcelona legend said that in 2009! during messi peak xd
Beautiful as always. Keep up the great content man!
I mean messi is a greatest goalscorer (cuz messi has played 150 less game and still the goal difference is only about 30) , he is greatest assister ever, greatest dribbler ever and he is even in top 5 midfielders of all times, more individual awards, more man of the matches.. so how the hell this is even a debate?
Because penaldo hass 600 M followers and a six pack.. And kids nowads thinks he’s sigma😈😈😈👺👺👹👿
@@ganeshkps8727 Ronaldo is great he is the best striker for me but messi is way ahead of him he is complete footballer..
@@ganeshkps8727 😂😂
@@shiomgaming3600Messi is not a complete footballer he can't even do headers or skills, Ronaldo can do everything Messi can do an can't do he's not just a striker 😐
@@Ali-ov6my header? Bro wtf you have to do header.. header leads you to goal. And whats the point he cant do header if can still make the goals whit his leg.. And for your kind information messi can do header but you cr7 is better in terms of header but it doesn’t matter cuz in the end what matters is goal.. bro and you said about skill bro where are you watching football from? Messi cant do skills? Messi is better in ronaldo in terms of every skill except that bicycle.. the meatriding is crazy lamo
If you thought ronaldo was better at any point after 2018 you are so delusional
I think you're the only one who is delusional
@@Ali-ov6my bro your making a fool out of yourself.. your the one thats acting delusional after messi literally won his 8th ballon dor like how much does it take to prove delusional ronaldo fans that messi is better then penaldo?
I like this video, it really captures the difference in playstyle
😂😂😂😂
No it doesn't, it is 100% biased, since it doesn't take into consideration that, the early Barca team is considered one of the best in history if not the best. Real Madrid team was not so good in those early years. They became better afterwards.
@@jcbones3098 ronaldo was in real mardrid in its prime now shush
@jcbones3098 Didn’t they have Pepe, Sergio Ramos, & Marcelo on their team?
@@aweeb229 Yes they did, and you can add Kaka to that list also. Barca also had very good players. BUT AS A TEAM, BARCA WAS BETTER HANDS DOWN. You had enough Barca players that grew up playing together, they understood the system they were playing and that created a great team. They added a couple of pieces from outside their system and WHALA.
The days when elclassico felt like a ucl final
why it's Ronaldo who always compare himself to Messi? why is he always criticize Messi ? highest top scorer with 70% of his goals are penalties! We are comparing a GOAT and world cup winner against CR7 a player who has never even scored in the world cup knockout stage! that's why Portugal always knocked out!
It's sad that you don't get enough views, keep going mate, good luck.
all in due time. thanks very much for the kind words
This video shows That Messi’s Role is different from Ronaldo’s role 2nd Mangers played a big part in These player’s career pep found the meta of football while mourinho was trying to keep up both players Are 1 in a million however people Will have there different opinion you can’t take away that from the people. They both deserve to be called The Greatest of All Time.
I agree with you. For me I prefer Ronaldo, but can also see how Messi is great.
you guys are all fools, this idiot did not even show you guys all the matches XDXD why cheat??XDXD
agreed
Mourinho made pep leave Barcelona
I strongly disagree. Messi in his fifth best season was a better player than CR7 in his best season and there is a consens among coaches that Messi is the best of his generation.
CR7 is a great player and deserves massive respect, but everyone who thinks he is better or on the same level as Messi is not neutral or knows nothing about football.
Respect to Both the GOATs
CR7 and Messi ❤️🐐🔥
There can be only one GOAT
@@Mrdipbhaiwho is the ball which they scored the most 😂😂
@@PrashantTamang-tj4gq ??
@@Mrdipbhai the only goat is the football which they scored the most
@@PrashantTamang-tj4gq nope Ronaldo has more goals because he played more matches, messi has better goal per match ratio, and overall messi is way better than Ronaldo according to statistics
i’m so glad i ran into your channel, i recognize you from instagram. and of course this video was nothing short of immaculate when it came to the facts about grizzy and going in depth about his performances as a player and his impact in game, keep it up homie
love both of these legends. Im so happy i was alive to watch their careers
😂😂😂😂 still the Ronaldo fans will say It's Ronaldo, but I respect that ,because that's being a true fan 🔥🔥🔥 respect for both sides .
Because Ronaldo was in a struggling rma ata the start and still has almost same laliga goals as messi who was in ucl winning team
@@syed1721 That lame excuse again. Like Barca didn’t go through the same thing. Ronaldo payed with world class players & under world class coach throughout his career compared to Messi.
Messi is just better deal with it.
I understand debate can be interesting, but also don't try to kill yourself by proving your points. You lose the argument when you insult your competitor.
@@JF.. Messi had guardiola who has backed him and built a team around him. You can't find a midfield duo like Xavi-Iniesta anymore.
@@user-ih4vy8ty5h Like you knew xavi and Iniesta before Pep guardiola. People tend to forget Xavi, Iniesta, Sergio Busquets etc became household names under guardiola who was a rookie at the time. Whereas Madrid had José Mourinho who was already a champions league winner, made name in England and Portugal. Madrid always had great players and great coaches and to this day. Madrid is known worldwide for signing super players more than any other club in Europe. They even signed Luís Figo from Barcelona. Ronaldo played with the best coaches and players compared to Messi. Players who already made name for themselves, like World Cup winners, UEFA champions league winners and the Ballon d'Or. Starting with Alex Ferguson and his Manchester United squad back in 2001-2009 before joining Madrid at age 24.
At Madrid Ronaldo played with midfielders like, Xabi Alonso, Toni Kroos, Luka Modrić, etc now go back and research the whole Madrid team, Manchester United team he played with and Juventus. Ronaldo played with Kaka, Bale, Pepe, Ryan gigs, angel dimari, karim Benzema, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Ricardo Carvalho, Paul scholes, vidic, Rio Ferdinand, like i could go on for days. Most of these players pick Messi over Ronaldo as the GOAT. I have been watching the beautiful game since the early 80s. I saw these things with my own eyes. Nobody cared about Barcelona after Ronaldinho left, infact we all thought Pep would fail because he was a ROOKIE at the time but somehow he created a team. Pep started gaining popularity after the win against Manchester United in the champions league whereas football fans around the World always knew Messi was special even before Pep. Go back and watch the FIFA World Youth Championship, watch every match he played and the final against Nigeria. He was the top scorer in that tournament btw. R9 and Maradona are my favorites but even i know Messi is the GOAT.
Its as simple as watching them play. Cristiano is not even close to Messi. I seriously don’t understand what joy Cristiano fans get from watching him. He does the same 2-3 moves every single time and touches the ball 10 times per game, sometimes less. Messi is all over the place delivering magic and style. Easy pick
Only people over the age of 14 know that messi is better most Ronaldo fans are either 9-12
@@Mayuravo i think the problem is also their nationalities. Lots of them come from countries with no football history and can’t tell the difference. They say Cristiano is a more complete player 🤦🏻♂️
It's simple. I like watching people score. Not assist
@@Sajayyz then you like Messi better. Half of cristianos goals are penalties and another third are rebounds and tap ins 😂
@@Marlonbrando1225 but Messi will never achieve moments like "too far for Ronaldo to think about it" Ronaldo clears. I'm not with the repetitive dribble get close score
sometimes it's not about who is better in footballs but their overall attitude which makes them worthy of being the goat
After a lot of thinking I've come to the final opinion that it's best to appreciate these two. Both of them share common traits that made them serial winners and record-breakers. But they implement it differently, Messi does it through visionary playmaking, whereas Cristiano does it through explosive goalscoring. Both of them have their weaknesses due to their physiques, Messi can't score headers the way Cristiano does and Cristiano can't dribble the way Messi does. I'm sure a similar conclusion can be reached when talking about their mentalities. At the end of the day, the two of them needed each other because they would've ended up being another Eden Hazard and Gareth Bale, which is still amazing but never in the GOAT conversation. It's going to be a sad day for World Football when these two hang their boots.
"Ronaldo can't dribble like messi"
No one can,
He is the best dribbler in history. 🐐
@@Orideo 2nd best. I put Ronaldo (El Fenomeno) before him because he dribbled like or better than Messi despite being 6 ft tall.
@@beegbeeg9871 Can he dribble past an entire team?
No
@@Orideo Please watch his highlight goal against Compostela.
Messi does it all the time@@beegbeeg9871
Both great players. Ronaldo does incredible things like scoring, aerial assault, acrobatic kicks, positioning for a finish etc. We've seen these feats from the likes of Eto, Shevchenko, Henry, R9, Van Basten, etc. The things Messi does are all of the above (minus headers and much athleticism), plus he does things you have rarely seen b4 on a regular basis. Just an opinion.
thats not opinion, thats a fact. there are video how mourinho stop messi when hes coaching inter. obi also explain that stopping messi and barca incredibly difficult. theyre all involving multiple players to stop messi since 1v1 him almost guarantee lose and he will solo your defese, if commiting too many players messi could spot his teammate and deliver killer pass.
ronaldo is different, just assign world class defender to deal with him and you got good chances to stop ronaldo or at least stall him enough to reorganize defense. ashley cole is the most successful, dani alves does very good and puyol did decent dueling with ronaldo. ferguson did this to messi using park ji sung. messi walk over him almost whole match.
@@user-zq7vi8lm4z First off, that early Barcelona team is considered one of the best teams in the history of the sport. So you really can't say it was Messi vs Ronaldo. It was Barcelona vs a Real Madrid team that at that time was not so great, but Ronaldo still managed to find the back of the net a decent amount of times. And I find it funny how you say just assign a World Class defender to deal with Ronaldo. First off, how many world class defenders are there, I guess not many because Ronaldo has scored an unbelievable amount of goals. Also if Messi is so unstoppable how come he usually did most of his damage in the group stages of the Champions league when they are facing lesser competition. Even the world cup 2014 he did nothing after the group stage but ONE assist, and this is when he was in his prime.
@@jcbones3098 Messi was more effective in the group stages but it so not say that he was not in the knock outs. Definitely i would say cr7 is better in ucl because of his legacy, but overall bigger big game player is messi. He has the most goals in finals, insane record against english top 6 without playing in the prem, only player to get 10/10 rating in a ucl final, scored in each knock out stage of the WC plus a brace in the final at 35, most goals in a single champions league game, more goals that ronaldo in major international tournaments, most goals against the greatest club off all time, i can go on forever. While i list these I do not want to undermine cr7, hes insane and the best in many aspects, but in big games and being the GOAT of the sport, he is 2nd to messi. And there is nothing wrong with that.
@@sharankopal6662 Dude Messi is a great player, BUT In big games that is Ronaldo's territory. Look up what Maradona said about Messi, how he couldn't handle big games, and would vomit multiple times. Ronaldo lives for the big game, and has come through many times in big games. Also player ratings is subjective and dont' mean sh*t to me. Just like he won the best player award in 2014 world cup and didn't deserve it. He scored all his goals in the group stage and only had one assist after. Yet Argentina reached the finals, but lost to Germany. When Maradona was asked how could this be, he shrugged it off and said he got the award because of marketing.
@@jcbones3098 if youre smart enough i actually explain messi and ronaldo abilities as individual. Messi always had more option due to his ability to get past defender + finish by himself and world class playmaking. Foul him in dangerous area isnt good either since hes fk master.
Also are you kidding me? Real isnt good that time? Real madrid on paper better than barca. The el clasico comentator even said so. Talent to talent comparison wise real madrid never weaker than barca even on their golden age. Barca seems better because messi and pep is there.
There actually lots of world class defender back in the day. Almost every major club got some of them. Nesta, maldini, materazzi, zanetti, rio, vidic, terry, cavarlho, ashley cole, ramos, pepe, marcelo, alves etc. quality standard of a player at that time simply higher compared to today.
Never cared less for this debate. From the eye test. Messi had the ability to go head 2 head with Pelé & Maradona. With Cristiano. I didn't see anything in his abilities that cleared Cruyff, Zidane, R9, Dinho, to stand parity with Pelé & Maradona.
Great one my guy. Messi was always better at playing football, and Ronaldo was a complete FOOTBALLER.
You mean complete goal scorer
how do you understand COMPLETE FOOTBALLER???😂
People who say CR is a complete footballer are delusional. Objectively, CR is very much a one dimensional player. He's a goal scorer and that's it. He has nothing else to offer. Messi on the other hand has sooo much more to offer his teams than scoring goals. CR fans are the most delusional people that exist
@@choosetolivefreeLOL the entire game of football since it’s existed thousands of years ago is…to score goals. CR7 Is the best at it so by default he’s the best of all time, it’s very simple really.
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Messi vs Ronaldo H2H stats (over 36 apps)
Goals: Messi (22) > Ronaldo (21)
Assists: Messi (12) > Ronaldo (1) 💀
G/a: Messi (34) > Ronaldo (22)
Wins: Messi (16/35) > Ronaldo (11/35)
All time stats (Messi 1047 apps vs Ronaldo 1204 apps)
Goals: Messi (821) < Ronaldo (873)
Assists: Messi (361) > Ronaldo (249)
G/a: Messi (1182) > Ronaldo (1112)
Trophies: Messi (44) > Ronaldo (35)
Goals in Europe: Messi (704) > Ronaldo (701)
Goals in Top 5 Leagues: Messi (496) > Ronaldo (495)
UCL Goals: Messi: (129) < (140)
Goals in domestic cups/domestic Super cups: Messi (71) > Ronaldo (6)
International goals: Messi (106) < Ronaldo (128)
International trophies: Messi (3) > Ronaldo (2)
Ballon Dor: Messi (8) > Ronaldo (5)
FIFA Best: Messi (3) > Ronaldo (2)
World Cup Golden Ball: Messi (2) > Ronaldo (0)
World Cup KO goals: Messi (5) > Ronaldo (0)
Laureus Award: Messi (2) > Ronaldo (0)
Messi wins 16-3 no diff 😹 I could keep going but I don’t want to insult Ronaldo further, respect both goats pls
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Because of media, Ronaldo is absolutely overrated
ronaldo being compared to messi in any capacity is crazy.
Nice vid! Really fair analysis and great storytelling
you guys are all fools, this idiot did not even show you guys all the matches XDXD why cheat??XDXD
@@alimpy6162 cheat? Give me your sources and make a video yourself and try to be not biased. As the CZcamsr was. The man was complimenting both sides. It's not his fault he had the facts on why Messi is a all round better player
@@ViscaBarca14 bro he didnt even put in the ucl matches, and he cut out someeee of the laliga matches, i counted, only reason im going on this rant is just because he said this will end the debait and he didnt even show all of the games, and its not hard to compliment while being biased
@@alimpy6162 He's not being biased. And obviously Messi is better lol
@@alimpy6162 Lol check the google kiddo, Messi have more wins,goals,assist, g/a against Ronaldo 😂
The only thing Ronaldo matched with Messi was with his stats.
Rest when it comes to gameplay Messi was always ahead.
Messi 🐐
Ronaldo never matched Messi with his stats, except for goals alone. Watch the video again.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 yeah I mean Goals basically that's the only thing Ronaldo matched with Messi
@@llawliet2814 Even with goals, Messi is ahead. His goal ratio is higher than Ronaldo's. Ronaldo has more goals bc he's two years older. Messi also gave goal chances away, Ronaldo never did. Messi also holds the Guiness record for the most goals in a year, 91.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 ofc i know 😅
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 Messi's overall goal ratio is better because when Ronaldo started he was a pure winger, so the 2 years older really doesn't make a difference. In Ronaldo's 9 years in LaLiga he had a better goal ratio than Messi.
Benzema missed almost 20 assist goals from Ronaldo when he was in Real Madrid this also made him look low in assists than Messi
just like how ronaldo almost won the 22 world cup?????
So your saying messi teamates never missed?🤡
@@theviper542just like messi won a Puskas 🤣
@@Azure.-.so you are saying that Benzema is better than Suarez and Neymar in finishing ☠️🥶🤡
@@titanium6016bro compared a puskas to a world cup 😂
How on earth we’re still debating this… we can’t compare a goal scorer to a best player who has bigger influence in the game.
Excellent video bro... 💯💯💯🤝🙌👏🔥🔥🔥
I hope their rivalry continues for years to come. Neither would have accomplished as much as they have without the other.
It’s over so get used to it
I think people think that ronaldo is handsome than messi so he is a goat
I don't know why people debeat about the messi vs ronaldo topic.but here my thought about them
1.messi play for a better national team that's why he won world cup
2.people think playmaker is all about dribbling but not
3.enjoy the messi vs ronlado topic
In the end we never see two players like them
Ya correct bro, we should enjoy their contribution to football rather than comparing them.
Just one correction to you. If in 2022 messi had a good national team then in 2006 ronaldo also had a good national team with louis figo and deco. Still he failed to win it. Not comparing but you can't take messi's achivement like this.
@@umangnishantsinha2435 yep you right about it but also he is very young that time so it's hard for him .
imagine being so deluded.you say messi plays for a better national team but didn't we saw in that wc portugal had a better team ?what's the point of enjoying if we can't decide who is the goat?that means it's clearly time wasting.messi vs ronaldo topic comes up with a purpose that who is the goat.if your thinking just enjoy than i will kindly tell you(NO ONE WILL ENJOY IF THERE IS NO MEANING),in the end putting all things together like stats,eye test,both ablities(Goalscoring,Playmaking) and with deep analylizing.we can come at one point that messi is the goat if we think with logic and deep understanding.
By that logic, Ronaldo should not have won 2016 Euro then
Different positions. Different caliber players, different teams. Teams that played for each other vs a team that wants to out run another. Great players deserves all the respect for what they brought into the game. Still love Ronaldo more as he done it in all the leagues he played including the EPL.
Messi has always performed better
Title :
Him at the end of the video : “I’ll let you be the judge”.
Even tho there is a clear winner, he doesn't want to disappoint certain fan based, because despite the facts they just believe their favourite, they don't understand that their favourite is not the goat...
@@EXIOO_1 then change the title
@@snowtib8464 you are saying as if I uploaded the video,...
@@EXIOO_1 You are not "him"
@@snowtib8464 that's what I said bro, just indirectly..
Yes this video is very good but how did the debate of messi vs ronaldo end with this video? Can anyone explain ?!
debate ends with statistics + achievement.
@@bunz9939 statistics and achievements aren't the only base on which we can declare someone the goat because they are playing in different environments with different opponents and different teammates
There never was a debate. Not really. Messi has always been levels above anyone else, there's no comparison. From the things Messi can do on a pitch, to his achievements, both individual and team based. CR fans are some of the most delusional people I've ever met, aside maybe from flat Earthers
@@choosetolivefreethis disproves ur argument and proves that Messi fans are delusional
@@Sajayyz Uh huh. Keep your head up your ass dude. Messi out matches CR in almost every way. But yea. It's the Messi fans that are delusional. Can I have some of what you're smoking please
an average player can win a world cup champions league or eurocup in the bench.
but only the greatest can break records and win massive individual trophies
a pleasure to see these 2 beasts since 2005
no player reach what they did
Nice one
But you Forgot to Add the PSG vs Al nasrr Match
PSG won 5-4
Messi scored 1 and Assisted 1
Ronaldo scored 2 and Assisted 1
messi's assists are way better than ronaldo's tap in goals
No doubt they both still entertain our generation 😊❤
They both dance for the last time in Feb, 2024 😢❤
You can watch an hour video of Messi’s assist and be in awe of his passing ability, his ability on making the defenders come to him while he dribbles them all to make space to a beautiful assist, or a crazy pass from far through the defenders, you can’t compare CR7 to Messi , that’s why Messi is the player with the most team trophies, superb goal scorer and amazing playmaker, a complete player one in a life time
Great video. But the performances of each of these players and the hype and intensity around each one of their encounters are better represented with their performances against other teams and in other big games.
Great video, period.
The rest of sentences seems like another excuse from a certain fans...
If I need to market anything I'll choose Ronaldo but if I need to really score I'll better choose Messi
Oh man what a joke 🤣
My biggest flex in life
I never hate any football player
Cause at least they got the chance to proove themselves and got a chance to represent a club or country and earning fame money from it where I'm doing sily internships and study where some of them younger than me already millionaire so no hate towards any professional player of any sports of any country ❤
10:34 yall have to admit that assist is fire 🔥
Messi was Always clear of Ronaldo lol (no disrespect) but we know who the goat is
Ronaldo bec he has always been at a disadvantage
Messi
@@syed1721 lol ,he always played at the top teams in every leagues. Man u, Madrid, Juventus,al Nasser .
So why has your idol failed outside of Barcelona ? Especially when he joined PSG when he had that disastrous first season with 6 goals in all competitions? Ronaldo has succeeded in other teams and in the Premier League (the toughest league in the world) while Messi failed outside of Barcelona at club level. That is definitely not a goat by any means.
@@xAmiin That argument is really trash for 2 things one, no one talks bad about Paulo Maldini, Francisco totti, Gerd Muller, Pele, Ryan Giggs, Steven Gerrad, but only use this argument against Messi, you know why? Because they performed consistently at the highest lvl and did the best for there club. Messi has basically joined different clubs as hes played under many managers and completely different players , but still outshines everyone hes played with. Shocking fact, did you know messi almost has the same amount of goals scored against the prems big 6(aka hardest league)while playing almost 3x the amount of games and only 2 goals behind Ronaldo, yet having more assist. Proving that hes still performs against the top teams better than Ronaldo. Your argument can also be counterd by Ronaldo is just more adaptable than Messi, which dosent automatically make him better but its a good attribute. Also Messi won the Ballandor while playing for Psg coming 3rd in most goals and having the most assist with 32 g/a in his 2nd season for psg
*MESSI IS THE GOD OF FOOTBALL*
Hey bro I appreciate the vid but the background to the part where you speak should be more centered and neat. Will def seem less awkward or uncomfortable to look at.
Some can argue who was the best, but we can agree that nobody else were even close to reach the stats of these two. A great rivalry.
Ronaldo was never traated as the crutial part of winning in their plans, he was only known as a goal scorer because of what the club made him to be. We never knew what kind of player he could have been if he was loved and appreciated by the club and its member like prime barca
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Thank you for saying the truth 👏👏👏
Oh please that's like the player who has had it more easy, his GOAT status is just based on goals many players can be like him, but rarely a player can be as wow as Messi ( Very complete)
He actually, hence the comparison.
@@omarserrano5865 yes. in 2014 2018 period.
The stats said it, the players said it, the pitch said it, the play style said it... Only Ronaldo fans can't hear it !
I detect lazy editing, but imma let it slide coz, you did well on the research
So, actually: Penaldo scored a few goals more then Messi in a lot more matches. And other from goals, Messi is miles ahead in every stat except UCL's, because of Penal Vardrid's stealing streak with poppa Perez buying refrees.
Messi in his fifth best season (10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15, 18/19) was a better player than CR7 in his best season and there is a consens among coaches that Messi is the best of his generation - that says it all.
I have huge respect for CR7, like his amazing workethic and I think that he is definitely one of the best players oat, but everyone who thinks he is better or on the same level as Messi is not neutral or knows nothing about football
Messi 2018/19 doesn't come close to even 2016/17(8th best season)
Please elaborate on how Messi 5th best season is better than Ronaldo best season
@@cr7hd162 Tell me Ronaldos 3 best seasons
Big fan ❤
Lets fast foward to 2021. Goals and assists for their teams. I'll wait for your video
Lets fast forward to 2023
And yeah we already know Ronaldo Man United Blunder
What happened to the last dance ?
Bro where's psg vs alnassr Ronaldo scored 2 and messi 1 so in total messi 23 and Ronaldo 23 too
We’re not counting friendlies in this lol
Saudi owed psg. You want psg crush al. Al nassr?
Mate that was a friendly game and it wasn’t al nassr it was a combined team of all hilal and all nassr. Besides psg didn’t even take the match seriously. Subbing their best players when the score was equal
@@imaxtranhvac-rdienlanhusa9822mate opsg won even after subbing their best players at 3-3
There has been a debate raging among fans and pundits over who's the better player between Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, but in my opinion as fans we should be privileged that we witnessed 2 generational talents go head to head and have very interesting battles score loads of goals get lots of assists and produce jaw dropping moments time and time again that left many of us shocked and we enjoyed every moment of them and yes we can debate on who's better which we've been doing that for years, as least as fans we saw 2 ridiculous players for 15+ years and even at their age they remain class.
I think in terms of ability skill and intelligence Messi has the edge as he's the better player. Messi is a prolific goalscorer as a player he's better at creating, passing, dribbling, his football IQ and understanding of the game, not to mention that he's also the most decorated player in football history with the cherry on top which is the World Cup. This was the same Lionel Messi who scored 91 goals in a calendar year which is an unbreakable record, while also being an elite level playmaker and it's rare that you see players who are consistent goalscorers and playmakers showing that his impact as a player is beyond goals and offensively with the ball at his feet, he can do everything score create produce something out of nothing etc. Even though he scored 91 goals in a calendar, there's an argument that Ronaldo edges him in terms of goalscoring and he is faster and more athletic than Messi. The things that Cristiano Ronaldo can do, Lionel Messi can't do, Ronaldo is a pure finisher and as he's evolved in his career he's become more complete as his heading his jumping accuracy and positioning is spot on and he was able to cause problems with his off ball movement. Both of them have different profiles and were efficient regardless and if I want a goalscorer on my team, then it's Cristiano Ronaldo because he is the best goalscorer ever, from a footballing perspective if I want the complete package which is goals assists and creativity then it's Lionel Messi. At the end of the day, they're a level above every player in world football and I don't think we'll ever see players like Messi and Ronaldo again.
I agree with much of what you have said, but in Ronaldo's favor I would add one more thing and that is the mentality factor. I remember I believe it was 2015 a player from the Portugal national team was asked how was it to play with Ronaldo. Paraphrasing he said; Its great before a big game in the tunnel I was nervous, but when I looked across to the opposing team, and saw that they were looking at Ronaldo. and they looked nervous. Ronaldo exuded confidence, upon seeing the oponents reaction to him I became calm. This is one of the factors that many don't consider on how Ronaldo's mentality lifts his teammates. He welcomes pressure, that many try to avoid.
If you want to talk about mentality then you don't exclude messi,interms of mentality,messi is far more mentally superior,had a lot of loss especially international level yet continued to play, just because messi doesn't pose in front of camera, doesn't mean,he doesn't have winning mentality, you don't stay on top for years without a superior mentality.
@@Colorbind005 You cannot compare Messi's mentality to Ronaldo's. Messi quit the national team, because of failure. Maradona has been quoted saying that Messi WAS NOT a leader, and that he would vomit multiple times before a big game. He is not in the same league mentality wise with Ronaldo.
@@jcbones3098 maybe not but he's competitivness is still far above most players regardless of it not being on ronaldos level
Messi can do everything Ronaldo can do. Ronaldo can't do everything Messi does.
thank you for compiling these easy to understand comparison stats - 5, 10, 15 years down the road (and if youtube still exists & relevant ) my children's children will watch this historic piece of evidence that there were once 2 gladiators who fought hard against each other in the name of glory and football.
However, often times, stats are only numbers.
any football fans who live and die by statistical numbers,
will never understand why the joy that Messi brings to football is immeasurable.
I'm glad that I live in the times of both great players,
but Messi's football is what every kid who aspires to be a football player, dream of doing daily - dribbling from one end to another end and score, feeding goals to their teammates.
& Live Football Commentators know that if they have to mention Messi's name repeatedly in a game - something great is about to happen.
Just as the "Ankara Messi... ankara Messi.. ankara Messi.. ankara Messi" bore witness to the birth of a new football Messiah in the 2000's,
we all watched in awe of what he did next and years to come.
Nice recap. The Assist tells all. Ronaldo is all about himself. Messi is a nicer guy, neutral fan favorite
Barcelona had the better team, the better players, Messi was surrounded by all these world class players, Ronaldo had some amazing players among him as well but nothing compared to Barcelona but yet Ronaldo still delivered and carried the Real Madrid team that’s why I think that Ronaldo is truly amazing! (I’m not saying Ronaldo is better than Messi I’m just making a point people can think about)
Talent for talent the players that they were surrounded by were pretty much equal. The difference was the talent that Messi had
No. The teams were pretty balanced. Infact ronaldo has never played with poor teammates until he went to man united on his second run and we know how that turned out. He needs service from teammates. Messi made a poor barca side win trophies almost all by himself. See how badly they’re struggling now even with better players
is it harder to start n prove urself as a youngster for a star-studded barca or a rookie sporting league outside europes top leagues?
No bro. Ronaldo had prime man utd and prime rma with him
@@KD-yb4xu not it wasn't, it was barcas better defence you deluded sped
This shows how Ronaldo was a great individual player cause by the look of it he managed to get allmost the goals that Messi but without getting the enough wins meaning if you swap Messi from Barcelona to Madrid things might turn in Ronaldo’s favour
I disagree, I'm a Barcelona fan, but that Real was a piece! Barcelona was majestic as well! So don't say "if" cause, Ronaldo won everything with that Real including 3 UCL in a row! And this guy is counting every straight match they had meet!
@@dspaiazejr.Yeah but those early years 09,10, and 11 that Barcelona team is considered one of best in history if not the best. Spain won two Euros and a World cup with mostly Barca players. That Real Madrid team in the early years was not a good "team". If Ronaldo played on that Barca team they DEFINITELY would have won just the same. Ronaldo has proved throughout his career that he can adapt to different clubs and systems. That Barca team with him would still be unstoppable, he would not be a player to slow them down, he would enhance them.
Si Messi jugaba en el Madrid no había discusuón, Messi tenía como 12 balones de oro
@@DianA0_13 You my friend don't understand football.
If messi played for madrid, he would have had the same goals, and assists and wins, coz barca got those wins coz of his goals or assists
Should have also mentioned their both goal ratio since ronaldo moved to spain , in those 9 years only , Messi have played all his life in la liga , we all know how hard it is to change a league.
Ronaldo only won 2 league titles in 9 years in madrid.. Same number of league titoas messi in psg
@@joelsebastian9096 yeah and ronaldo also won 4 champions league two Copa del reys 3 fifa wc and a bunch more, while messi failed to do that despite the promise and left , so?
@@joelsebastian9096 yeah ask psg fans how much they adore him 😂
@@acemenace7710 how about World cup gold, silver, knockout goals, olympic god, youth world cup, more goals against the top 4 teams in the premier league despite not playing in that league, 7 to 2 la ligas in their time together in spain? surely how much of excuses can you make? who dribbles up to 5 players?
@johnbaptistbitamazire8680 Umm actually Ronaldo has more goals against top 6 EPL teams and Ronaldo have better stats agaisnt French teams without playing in Ligue 1😂😂😂
bro watched the entire video and i didnt expect only to have 700 views, amazing quality man!
inshallah one day bro, thanks so much
During the Ronaldo-Messi era at Spain
Messi won 7 league cups
Ronaldo 2
I know those who will try to debunk my statement but "Real Madrid won 5 Champions leagues, 3 of those were very very controversial. I very much remember it. It was nothing sort of a day-light robbery. Its very sad how people will forget how they won it and just count their 14 UCL cups.
Anyway the Big difference is Messi made Barca great and Real Madrid was already great before Ronaldo's arrival
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Messi is a far better dribbler, he has far more vision than ronaldo, more agility, more balance, more close control on the ball...the only things ronaldo is better at heading and at using the week foot.
Fun Fact Ronaldo won more Finals against messi
That's not true 😄. Ronaldo beat him once in the Copa Del Rey final, while Messi beat him once in UCL final (bigger game) and more times in the Spanish Super cup final. Typical lies from the CRonnie fans.
@@dm802 Nah Ronaldo won more finals overall against messi u are lying over here.
He won
2 Copa del rey - 2011 and 2014
2 Supercopa- 2012 and 2017
1 Copa semi- 2013
1 Ucl semi - 2008
Won 6 finals out of 10 Now u be the judge 😂
@@nio3500 More nonsense. Ronaldo didn't play in the 2014 Copa Del Rey final afainst Barcelona 😄. Messi beat him in the UCL final 2009, the UCL semis 2011 and 3 supercopa finals. Messi also dominaded Ronaldo in the league. Way more wins, goals, assists and motm in their head to head encounters.
@@dm802 Ok even if we remove 2014 one cuz ronaldo only played 9 finals according to you he still have more final wins 5 wins out of 9
@@nio3500 Ronaldo has won 2 supercopa finals in total and 1 Copa Del Rey against Messi, which makes a grand total of 3 finals. Where are you getting 5 from? 😂
Great video. You're one of the best. Ronaldo is also a great, great player, but it's clear from this that Messi betters him. Debate is over. Ronaldo himself has said the rivalry is over.
They Faced Each Other Last Time on 25July 2023 PSG vs Al naser Why didnt You Include That?
Ronaldo's shot power is absolutely monsterous. He is among those very few players who had decent dribbling skill with ability to shoot with power. I am Messi fan by the way.
The Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo debate was settled after Messi won the World Cup. Both of their fans can agree on one thing which is that they had a long term impact on the game dominated football for so long, the numbers they put up were simply not normal even to a point where even if they score 25 goals, that's seen as a bad season for them, that tells you how high their standards have been for so long. A thing that makes these 2 a rivalry is Lionel Messi was on Barcelona, Cristiano Ronaldo was on Real Madrid, and even before Ronaldo went to Madrid, it was between Messi and Ronaldo for the best player in the world. In that champions league final in 2009 between Barcelona and Manchester United, that header he scored was ridiculous and at the time each of them had a champions league title and Ballon Dor to their name.
They were seriously on 2 iconic clubs going at it in the same league and every time Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo went up against each other the moments each of them produced were absolutely ridiculous and you wonder how they managed to do it. The biggest rivalry in Spanish football is El Classico and every time Messi and Ronaldo went up against each other for Barcelona and Real Madrid, they played against each other in La Liga Champions League Spanish Super Cup Copa Del Rey they literally played against each other almost 3-4 times a season depending on how far their teams got in the champions league. Head to head it was always an interesting battle between 2 of football's biggest superstars and the games always lived up to the hype and the moments they had when they played each other you wonder how they even did it. When they were playing in La Liga, every season they motivated each other to get better and El Classico was always a thriller and in terms of wins goals and assists, Lionel Messi had the edge over Cristiano Ronaldo and in career as well.
That's a beautiful view point. But I think you're trying to keep it more respectable. In my view tho, there has never been any debate between the two; from 2007-08 CR7 was the best in the world - no debate. Also, from 2009-2019 with the possible exception of 2014, Messi was the best in the world - no debate again.
Football in my view should be based on performances first. Then stats can follow suite. I saw some stats recently that came as no surprise to me that since 2009 Messi has gotten more than 300 motm performances in contrast to CR7's 100 plus nearly 200 motm and since 2009 Messi has also had a 10/10 perfect rating about 118 times in contrast to 38 from CR7. I know these are subjective but they're not far from the reality at all. But Ronaldo makes up for this gulf in class between them by stat-padding and having people look at football from that perspective alone.
In terms of numbers, yes there was and is a debate perhaps which I still think Messi edges. But in terms of performances, eye test, records, iconic moments, consistency and achievements all in one CR7 really doesn't come close and this had nothing to do with Messi winning the world cup. Just for the doubters who were searching a means to downgrade Messi internationally the Copa 2021 win was what effectively ended any such debate from their camps.
I find it kind of embarassing for Messi to say he needed a world cup to edge CR7. He needed the world cup mainly for Pele and Maradona arguments and to further shut the mouths of haters and CR7 delusionals but not to "edge" CR7.
Messi has greater performances at league level, international level, domestic level and surprisingly to some even in the UCL...but CR7 has greater numbers in UCL, hence his title as Mr. Champions league, but not greater performances than Messi.
There's no debate and has NEVER been between Messi and Ronaldo to those interested in football!!!
@@okwyunams8439I agree
More than the edge. Messi's way ahead.
@@okwyunams8439 You are so right! Well put.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 Messi has been better than Ronaldo throughout his career there was never a period of time where Ronaldo was better maybe champions league that’s it other than that it’s always been Messi.
So, to end the debate between them you put the stats when they faced each other directly? That doesn't look accurate to me
That's literally what "Messi vs Ronaldo" means!
That’s your problem
There is another video analyzing their all time stats. Messi didn't have the slight edge, he was significantly better at virtually everything. Don't get me wrong, Ronaldo is one of the best ever, but Messi is on another level.
It is to say though that Ronaldo joined a very struggling Real Madrid side in 2009 that had lost in the UCL Ro16 5 times prior and brought them back to glory, while in 2009, Barcelona were at their all time best and that difference is clearly visible in the results of their fixtures early on. Numbers can be decisive and allthough Messi is absolutely crazy and destryoed Ronaldo's Real Madrid on a numeric level, it doesn’t paint the full picture of this rivalry because the most astonishing part was CR7s comeback. The way he brought Real Madrid back from their poorest form to la Decima and the threepeat and individually coming back down 3 Balon d'ors in 2012 to being level in 2018 is what made this rivalry the greatest of sports
I agree but lets not act like ronaldo joined a poor team. Even tho they hadn’t won ucl in a while, madrid was still one of the best clubs in the world. Look at clasicos before ronaldo joined. Absolutely insane team.
Messi's the only player in the history of football who can win MOTH without scoring or assisting.
Nope, Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Seedorf, Cryuff and so many other geniuses have managed it as well..just adds to Messi’s genius tho😂
Bodied penaldog
Which match? Don't be like a sheep. Prove it.
@@imaxtranhvac-rdienlanhusa9822 el classico
Its easier for Messi to playmake because 1st of all, he started at a strong club, Barca, with Suarez, Neymar, Puyol, Iniesta, Xavi, Ronaldinho sand many more. He had it pretty easy for him. Ronaldo had to go from Sporting Lisbon tongetbto where he is. 2nd of all, Ronaldo can only score goals, yeas, but Ronaldo is just more of an attacker. His job is to score goals. Especially since he doesnt have many teammates who shoot and finish as good as him to assist. They are pretty equal.
And why did he started off in sporting? Because he was trash as a youngster, and Messi was a champion from the get go, easier for him to playmake? He made david villa look like an Elite Striker. And from that logic Messi still had better stats, goals and assists post 2015 when he had none of them, and Ronaldo didn't after having the strongest Real Madrid side. Messi is better, period.
@@hydrocy.9165 Just be true to yourself Ronaldo had it harder then Messy. He was from the island of Madeira small Island almost no one knows he had to prove himself just to get to play for sporting. In his 1st professional year in sporting he had already proved himself to go to Man U in the PL one of the hardest leagues to play in. After that he had to prove Man U he was the best in the squad and he did that won champions league and ballon d'or all that in England while Messy just chilling and relaxing at Barcelona. Finally he went to Real Madrid again with new teammates new tactics and still proved himself there to be the best.
Of course Ronaldo had it harder than Messi, he doesn't have half the talent for football Messi has.@@NobleSeek3R
Not even close. Ronaldo never played with scrubs 🙄
Messi has a world cup
as a madridista .. is there anything to judge based on head to head numbers that u provided ?
But if it is a highstake match a do or die situation...need someone who can be banked on...cr7 undeniably comes out top...compare the ucl knockouts stats between the two
I feel messi is defitely the better player, but cr7 is the more reliable and more versatile in finding ways of scoring
I’m not a huge soccer fan but I remember when I was younger playing fifa 12 I always used Messi and my budd would argue that ronaldo was better and worked harder. My response then was “hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard. But this in the case Messi probably worked harder”