Why do Arsenal and Man City keep scoring the same goal?
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Manchester City and Arsenal have many similarities. Arsenal’s manager plied his trade as an assistant manager under Man City’s manager, for one. And because of that they have adopted similar styles of play. And they score similar styles of goal. In particular, the cutback goal.
What is a cutback goal? Why does it have such a high Expected Goal value? Why do the best teams want to score these goals? JJ Bull explains.
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Anyone old enough remembers this style of crossing was a trademark of Arsenal from the days of Pires, Bergkamp, Wiltord, Henry. It was their thing everyone knew Arsenal for. It works for obvious reasons, as described here.
It is also a man City trademark
Wiltord was epic but those other 3 were crap.
@@sarahjessicafarter7383no way you just said henry ,bergkamp and pires are crap 😐
@@zenkaiforms They are a troll, please ignore
@@otto_jk Stop trying to boss him around. You are a bossy boots. He can choose for himself who he ignores.
So Arteta developed his tactics based on the way I used to play Pro Evo at university? I never knew I had so much influence
This was by far the best way to score in PES- that was my first though on seeing this video
Cutback goals were Arsenal’s greatest weapon under Arsene Wenger.
That's The Arsenal's trademark for goals going back to the early 2000s. If you weren't watching them play in person on matchday, or if the match weren't televised because it was a 3PM Saturday afternoon kick off, then you just knew when The Arsenal took the lead early on, it was a cutback goal.
Tell 'em.. classic Wenger ball was light years ahead.. when Pep revived Barca's tiki-taka we were already familiar. The only difference was that Barca was doing it with world-class superstars and Wenger was doing it with mere nobodies for the majority of the time..
@@afanwithagun Yep (those days of checking on Teletext or Gillette Scooer Saturday). And not excluding the fact that The Arsenal have always had a small squad; which when you put in all the factors in together, has cost them some major honours over the years since. If you want to not just win major honours, but to dominate after you win major honours, you need to have a big squad by spending money bringing in quality players during transfer windows.
@@DEEDUBZ That's the one bit of history that I regret. For many years we had the manager, but moving to the Emirates meant, we didn't have the resources to compete. We could've won this league at least 3 - 4 times between 2006 and 2016..
@@afanwithagun I'm actually talking before the move to the new statdium
@@afanwithagun Wenger was a genius, but he grew more stubborn as he aged, and refused to spend money on improving the squad even when money was available. He persisted with players that weren’t good enough because he was determined to win a certain way
The best cutback I've seen was when D. Silva scored his goal vs Stoke after a through pass from Sane and then a cutback from Sterling. This was in the 17/18 season
Cutbacks make sense momentum of opponents are going one way, ball is going the other 😬 classic fifa
Ah, yes, the most satisfying of goals
Oh, man
Almost always works in Fifa, even if the opponent expects it😅
Classic SWOS
average sweats 🤣🤣
Wenger’s teams have been doing them for ages. As well as the wall and reverse passes.
Yeah remember even against Barca, Arshaaaaviin
Prime city was Sterling and Sane cutting the ball back playing on their natural side
The inverted winger craze is a fad that I wish would die a quick death. It slows the game down because wingers are dribbling with the foot closest to the defender which is easier for the fullback. If most of the these defenders would force the winger down the outside they can't cut inside and bomb away at goal. If they manage cross with the weaker foot you live with that because it's more than likely won't be a good one
@@Wilcoranking I do miss wingers taking it to the goal line and cutting it back it’s so effective
Man City don't have such pacy wingers anymore
@@Wilcoranking Thing is that cutbacks don't require as much precision so most wingers are fine playing inverted as so many players are adept with both feet nowadays
@@Brandooooo5 if players are so adept with both feet then it shouldn't matter which wing they play on.
You're actually arguing against your point. If accuracy isn't as big a deal then a left footed player on the left (where he belongs)can cut in and whack with the right since the need for accuracy is less. It is dribbling that's the more difficult skill, when the player carries the ball on the side further away from the defender there is a greater chance of getting past or getting fouled.
I blame Robben for this fad going on, his unique skillset made playing on the right so effective but most wingers aren't Robben.
Any defender will tell you the most difficult thing to deal with is a cross coming in while running full tilt towards your own goal, you don't know where the striker is, there's a possibility of miscommunication with the keeper and any miscue puts the ball in the net.
A cutback shot is a low percentage one and strikers become spectators and have to get out the way, which they hate. Look what's happening to Haaland and Lewandowski as examples, they thrive on even a few crosses ever so often even if not as regular.
Arteta is a genius.. Guardiola was lucky to learn new things from him..
Stillmatic
Stillmatic
Weird then how he's winning 4-1 on aggregate this season with a home game still to come.
@@Ceaseless_Watcher because he has a better squad.. Wait till Arteta has a squad as good as his..
Football fans fail to analyze football with a brain.. A brilliant manager can only do as much, the rest depends on the quality and depth of the team. Arteta’s journey at Arsenal is to implement that. The philosophy is there already, now it’s about making the team competitive and have quality players in all positions including the bench.. That what advantages Guardiola
@@wayg2195 Which one is your favourite from Illmatic, It Was Written & Stillmatic?
Wengerball cutbacks were literally Arsenal's signature when Pep was still playing football without any coaching badges, come on now.
Yep i used to score loads from cutbacks on old PES games
That was a perfect circle... you are a genius JJ
JJ the BULLET
The last time Arsenal were this good at cutbacks, 55 people lost their jobs.
I'd love to see some analysis on the typical Man City goal
It's the through ball to a wide player in the box, then the low driven cross straight across the face of goal for the opposite attacking player who has an open goal.
They're masters of it, and I don't think it's complicated I just think they have the speed and sharpness and have synchronised the movements and timing perfectly.
Yes you're right, I noticed it too. It's sooo perfectly executed and well timed that made it impossible to defend
Agree, accurate observation at least from memory. I guess stats back it up.
the only type of goal I score on FIFA 😅
This is how I score 66-75% of my goals in FIFA since like 2010
Love how you added - Michael Scott to the quote just like he did in the show with the Wayne Gretzky quote
The same reason the Canadian nat team was punching above their weight. They had a front three with the speed and skills to make cutbacks, which is higher chance than a high cross, which is higher than a low cross, ect ect.
Dortmund did this a lot under their first season with Tuchel.
Also a similar Coach to Pep and Arteta
After watching fitbathatba for years, it really shook me to see JJ talking serious sense about football
When you do the overlay, can you make it a bit bigger so you can’t see the arms behind it? It gets distracting seeing 4 arms
I'd like to add to the discourse; although a popular tactic used at uni on Pro evolution soccer 5 it dates at least from Fifa 2001 and possibly earlier
The further away from goal the team is draws a higher line and more space between goal keeper and last defender so an early cross like TAA at Liverpool is a situation where the ball played from the middle third can attack space. The closer to goal the ball gets as you attack a low block into the final third means there is little space so the ball MUST attack feet. This is a coaching principle, yet if you watch a lot of teams play over the years teams get this wrong with "blind crosses." Big heads can win the ball yet because of the lack of space this is still a low probability chance in the area known as "Big Chance" and relies on defenders or GK making mistakes. Only way that tactic works is having a #9 who is magnificent in the air, so it can work; yet teams who don't even have that still seem to attack this way not appreciating space and the need to attack feet with the final ball when space doesn't exist. What Pep and Mikel have done is create a common sense approach to an old coaching principle as you teach players when a final ball should attack space (high line from the middle third) or when a ball should attack feet (final third when space is far smaller).
City down 0-2 to Spurs a few weeks back...mentality monsters...performance of champions from City and came back to win 4-2. Also, something to explain, this is the first season where Arteta has his own full team, we of course donot have a squad like City but next years we should be challenging again, of course finishing 2nd to this City behemoth is no slack and we can go again next season and just to be in the conversation took time for Arteta and challenging Pep ,Klopp, Ten Hag is no small feat, so proud of this young team
Guys, I love your style, like Stranger Things nerd, but in 2020s :D and kudos for a great work
Atletico would do a long or mid ball to that position and then head over to runners to head in to goal in past seasons. That position is a clear gap in the defence that can't be held by a defender so it's a good place to get the ball to as well as cutting back to strikers running onto the ball onside.
I wonder if footballers or coaches watch Tifo football? But I remember the Liverpool throw in coach making reference to a statistic from Tifo which is quite interesting
I would think that this would be the perfect timing to get that Castolo poster back in the background
Tifo IRL has practically become an Arsenal Tactics channel. Get the inverting the pyramid guy back; I'm interested in his thoughts on Arteta.
When I did it in fifa. My online opponent called it a sweat goal 😢. Lol
Emery’s Arsenal is all cut backs to Auba and Ramsey.
John Robertson Nottingham Forest....he used to beat a man and cut the ball back, awesome player! ;D
cutbacks are always a 100% goal
Unless raheem sterling is on the end of them
he's a little confused but he's got the spirit
@@Forever4nd7ver was going to say the same
FUT moment
@@Antonio-hb8rd thanks
3:20 „by f***ing tricking the defense“ or what??? 😂
I just realized thats a pretty tiny goal in the graphic. is that a rondo goal? lol
I used to play FIFA and saw that this is nothing like how football is played. Now the game has evolved to the point that it looks more and more like a video game.
Are you just on a mission to wind up Spurs fans this week?
Don't need it. Spurs can do that on their own
@@amiryusuf8815 True
odd question, i started watching football in 2009. lately, i've noticed folks referring to the "goalie" and not the keeper - like in this vid somewhere around 3 minute mark. is this new?
Croatia style of attacking in Davor Super gen. Basically an inbox shots. The type of xG goers like.
I think Man City's cutbacks were all during the first couple of games when people didn't know what to do with Haaland. It should be easier to create chances with how good Haaland is. It's crazy that Arsenal are the ones with SO many, however.
Mint vid.
Great quote by Michael Scott
I am surprised nobody noticed it
You have lots of complex diagrams but you missed the obvious reason: you can't be offside from a cutback goal.
Does that mean that classic winger is better than inverted winger?
4--5-1 is one of the top formation if not the best one in football for me
You can always give the ball to Lloris and he'll throw the ball into the goal himself though.
arsenal did this repeatedly in the last 20 mins of the everton game. it was total dominance towards the end of that match.
I always knew Michael Scott was a football genius
You may not like it, but PES5 was what peak football gaming looked like.
I think it was FIFA 09 you could just run down the wing, double tap square for a low cutback cross and it was nearly a guaranteed goal
Wow the change in the title
Carvajal, Ronaldo and Real Madrid : Doing this since 1669
Also how Lampard scored so many
Jorginho Also banged from that area
Key benefits of cutbacks: 1. Unmarked third player runs
2. Goalkeeper looses his most important feature: broad vision
3. Low skill level required for finish (usually tap ins ) - the real challenge is timing the runs ⚽️
better question: why do you keep changing video titles hours after releasing them?
Marcelo Bielsa's "pase de la muerte" 🤪
I feel like dortumund needed to watch this video before the chelsea game.
In the 15-16 season, arsenal had(at one stage) more cutback goals than straight up forward pass goals.
Even in fifa 23 this is the way to score goals against deep defence …
Arteta invented the cutback 😯😯
These guys say the most simple concepts and act line geniuses lmao
I wanna be as efficient with something one day, as he is with that smart table
Everton 0/16 on their attempts 😂
They tried, OK 🤷♂️?
Their inability to figure out strikers is hilarious
Not always
Messi scored like 60 goals from cutbacks by Alba
I hate xG for minimising the amount of 30 yard pearlers we get per season.
You missed the Jorginho goal, cut back from Martinelli
Still works as of at least FIFA 22, incidentally. Not played 23 yet.
They may not share the same hairline, but they do share the same braincell.
Lol I love this channel but these dudes are always exposing everything 😂 but keep up the good work
Sweaty goals
Watching this now made me feel confused, as i don't think arsenal is that good, the team is still building
But anyway this analysis was very good
Cutbacks are elite
"centro atrás es medio gol"
About cross from half space KDB make them a lot.
This is how I score 90% of my goals in fifa
The same with jorginho goal vs villa
Tree is goated
i love tree
We gave hard time to emery for cut backs 😂
first idc what that tree guy said
So they do it the most, but are actually ~6th/7th best in the league at actually converting these type of chances?
That’s the thing about the Arsenal, they always try to pass it in
if Emile smith Rowe had been fit, arsenal would have scored 20 from cutbacks, he's that good
The thing about Arsenal is they always try to walk it in.
Ever watched adam sandlers waterboy.....some assistant coach stole a playbook...top the table ..but in the end they come up short
You know Arsenal. They like to walk it in.
3:36 it's 5 of their 66 goals this season in the league. "Keep scoring"?
Because Arteta doesn't have Osimhen or Vlahovic to convert long crosses from the byline. Guardiola has Haaland now
Did you change the title? lol
But when I do it it's called a sweaty goal ffs
Hey that's how I score in Fifa too
tl;dr everyone plays like I do on FIFA now IRL. :D
Kolasinac’s cutbacks were like his only viable weapons, shame he wasn’t salvageable under Arteta.
He does alot more defensively and he gets assist, 04.
@@MrBongobongbongo what?
As if they're the only ones using this smh
But you can see how much kore they’re using it than other teams. That’s the point, right?
Opposition teams haven’t caught on they need to double tap R1
Lol this is how I score in Fifa 😂😂
Mahrez is king @jj
Pes 5 getting name dropped 😂
You guys should remove coffee from the studio for a few weeks