How Arteta finally beat Man City

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    Mikel Arteta finally picked up a Premier League win over Pep Guardiola, with his Arsenal side beating Man City 1-0 at the Emirates. A deflected goal from Gabriel Martinelli was the difference in an otherwise dull game between two candidates in the title race.
    Both sides came into the game with injuries and suspensions to key players, with Rodri and Bukayo Saka both out of action. The game may have been lacking in attacking entertainment, but how did Arteta finally beat Manchester City?
    JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie take a look at Sunday's game in detail.
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  • @sayakchakraborty4206
    @sayakchakraborty4206 Před 7 měsíci +1842

    How Kovacic got away with those two high-boot contact tackles, despite the VAR checking them, is beyond me.

    • @fullydavid
      @fullydavid Před 7 měsíci +99

      only the first one was checked by VAR, and they likely decided it wasn't an obvious error by the ref that needed to be overturned. it was more of an 'orange' challenge, not an obvious straight red - also better to keep 11 players vs 11 if it's borderline - so don't default to a red. VAR can't intervene in yellow cards so couldn't do anything for the second one - which the on pitch ref got wrong.

    • @jgons
      @jgons Před 7 měsíci +54

      It was just clarified last week how that should be called every time. Ridiculous it wasn’t a direct red.

    • @kagisomarvinmolekwa3933
      @kagisomarvinmolekwa3933 Před 7 měsíci +82

      how so? Curtis jones initially received a yellow card against Spurs, but then VAR intervened, didn't they?@@fullydavid

    • @abhinavkumarsingh_0365
      @abhinavkumarsingh_0365 Před 7 měsíci +78

      Simple ans: corruption

    • @Ludspaw
      @Ludspaw Před 7 měsíci +10

      Bigger news than the match. If city had won it would have been an investigation

  • @C-OBrien
    @C-OBrien Před 7 měsíci +1096

    Kovacic perfectly filled the Rodri role of committing horror tackles and getting away with it

    • @shanky1751
      @shanky1751 Před 7 měsíci +25

      I think you mean casimero

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Před 7 měsíci +110

      @@shanky1751 3 red cards since August last year but yeah, Casemiro somehow is a master of getting away with it.

    • @sigfigronath
      @sigfigronath Před 7 měsíci

      Casemiro got away with it in La liga, not here, Rodri gets away with it all the time@@shanky1751

    • @fazoland5528
      @fazoland5528 Před 7 měsíci +19

      @@nont18411lol acting like he only played in united 😅😂 lololol.

    • @shanky1751
      @shanky1751 Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@nont18411 if var didn't favour penchester united casimero would have well over 3 red cards

  • @Bijanc9
    @Bijanc9 Před 7 měsíci +333

    Grinding out a 1-0 win against a strong team that will punish you for any lapse in concentration is something this arsenal team has lacked. This was a mark of maturity in my book. Also suprised you guys didn't touch on the subtle tactic that led to the goal, Tomayasu making a forward run to join Havertz and create a dual target for long balls. I've never seen Tomayasu do this before, but he made that run multiple times before it ended up leading to the goal. Also Martinelli was always covering it, at one point falling into the back line when Tomi couldnt get back fast enough. Alot of the pundits called it a gamble, and a bit of luck, but that looks like a training ground tactic to me.

    • @omother6950
      @omother6950 Před 7 měsíci +39

      Yeah, it was said that when doku switched wings to get away from tomiyasu and target Ben white who held his own, arteta gave tomi the license to just push up because there’s no threat on his side as everyone else was narrow. Was a gamble as it left Gabriel to cover the whole left by himself however him and saliba were unplayable yesterday. Tomi then makes a penetrating run backed up by Havertz and opens up Martinelli

    • @kiranpandiyan159
      @kiranpandiyan159 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Couple of other football youtubers also talked about this point and some said that is what won u the game.

  • @chappy48
    @chappy48 Před 7 měsíci +780

    Saying Arsenal are playing too defensively would have been unfair, considering that Pep did the exact same thing with City. No one ever accuses Pep of playing too defensively. We have two brilliant managers, looking to neutralize each other. Arsenal started finding more opportunities in the 2nd half and looked the better team, ever so slightly.

    • @saniakshay12
      @saniakshay12 Před 7 měsíci +134

      Honestly it was like watching a chess match. Both managers thinking along the same lines.
      I think the modern premier league is so focused on 4 goal wins that any game that is 1-0 is considered boring.

    • @thejoulesthief6841
      @thejoulesthief6841 Před 7 měsíci

      Plastic fans think this was boring. @@saniakshay12

    • @frieswilliams9199
      @frieswilliams9199 Před 7 měsíci +44

      City literally plays with 5cbs 6 when stones steps in mid pretty defensive if you ask me

    • @javierlandaverde4108
      @javierlandaverde4108 Před 7 měsíci +15

      It's not unfair. They backed it up by saying that last season Arsenal would take risks on offense. Risk almost worked winning a league title but teams catched up. If you paid close attention when Arsenal's collapse that happen in the latter stage of the season. Teams would exploit Arsenal's left zone of Zinchenko and Gabriel Malghaes. Teams would often score goals in that zone. On Pep's side. He changed his system last season from being a very possession team to a more defensive set up and Pep won the league title. Having CB"s like Ake coming in as a left back to add more defense and having John Stones come in central midfield. We saw Jack Grealish be more defensive compare to other seasons. Arsenal are building a squad similar to Cites last season. Mikel is trying to balance a system.

    • @javierlandaverde4108
      @javierlandaverde4108 Před 7 měsíci +31

      @@saniakshay12 I'll just say, today the new generation of viewers and the way media coverage goes on about modern football. It is soo focus on goals, assists, offense and judges the best players in the world of what they do on the ball and very offense centric. Especially the last 16 years with Messi and CR7 who both were brilliant players. We lost and are out of touch what Football is. Football is a complete sport. As much as goals are fun to watch. Defense also wins you games, goalkeepers wins you games. Prior to 2008. It would be common to see Centerbacks, fullbacks, midfielders, goal keepers win Balon D'or. Label players like Pablo Maldini who absolutely bosses the backline and the most important player for a squad. As much as people have said Bukayo Saka has been Arsenal's super star you come back say William Saliba is Arsenal super star as well. What he does on the defensive side of shutting down the PL best goal scorer last season while partnering up with Gabriel and working as a team, spraying balls from the back, being press resistant with his touches, dribbling out of the backline. Saliba has been equally crucial for Arsenal this season like Bukayo has. It's just a shame how today we overhype or over value offensive players that we dont acknowledge backlines or goalkeepers.

  • @Mochido89
    @Mochido89 Před 7 měsíci +138

    Arteta won the game with his subs. Pep made changes to try and solidify the stalemate, but Arteta sent players with instructions to try different things. Martinelli was all over the place, and Tomiyasu was breaking lines from behind, fighting aerial duels with the CBs, same with Havertz. The goal was made from one of those duels.

  • @PaddyMac
    @PaddyMac Před 7 měsíci +71

    Don’t care how boring it was. I really liked the part where we won

    • @leonthethird7494
      @leonthethird7494 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thats a silly way to approach football, this is the entertainment industry.

    • @ababilashari9970
      @ababilashari9970 Před 7 měsíci

      for a fan who cares, we're not all in the football intelligentsia@@leonthethird7494 lmao

    • @CoCLord
      @CoCLord Před 7 měsíci +7

      ​@@leonthethird7494what a silly comment. It's not a film. It's a sport where the goal is to win.
      Maybe go watch Goal?

    • @leonthethird7494
      @leonthethird7494 Před 7 měsíci

      @@CoCLord that’s such a narrow and limited view of football, I pity you. People don’t watch if they’re not entertained. Some people get the entertainment through investment, others through the virtuosity, but probably the most universal is the entertainment value.

    • @leonthethird7494
      @leonthethird7494 Před 7 měsíci

      @@no8839 zero nuance, boring af

  • @E2JMusic
    @E2JMusic Před 7 měsíci +286

    For me… I REALLY enjoyed the game😂 I felt from a tactical standpoint? Arsenal have evolved and obviously as an Arsenal fan… winning was fun too.

    • @Antonio-hb8rd
      @Antonio-hb8rd Před 7 měsíci +4

      It was a boring game tactically.

    • @dennisgichohi5392
      @dennisgichohi5392 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Me too I weirdly enjoyed the game,I thought it was an interesting tactical battle

    • @jamesrutterford576
      @jamesrutterford576 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I agree, might have been a bit of a cagey affair but I loved the battle in the middle of the park. Every Declan rice tackle or Saliba header had me cheering at the tv.

    • @E2JMusic
      @E2JMusic Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Antonio-hb8rd It was an advanced game tactical. Cagey and both teams didn’t want to concede. And it’s funny because the chaos footballers are the ones who broke the deadlock. Tomi sprinting from left back to the second striker role, Havertz giving it to Martinelli who was a headache to the opposition from the second he came onz

    • @spoons4414
      @spoons4414 Před 6 měsíci

      Humbled by newcastle though, using the exact same tactic. How do you feel about that?

  • @mikesingh6099
    @mikesingh6099 Před 7 měsíci +331

    Foden/Haaland were in the back lines pocket all game. They look average without Rodri and KDB. Arsenal looked much sharper in the 2nd half when Marty came on. If he doesn’t add his aggression and pace, I think arsenal lose. Crazy how conservative both teams have to play without their best players.

    • @kunimitsune177
      @kunimitsune177 Před 7 měsíci +20

      Can't lose if your opponent doesn't take any shots.

    • @javierlandaverde4108
      @javierlandaverde4108 Před 7 měsíci +29

      Would have been different if Ake scored that goal scoring opportunity in the 1st half or Eddie Nhketiah scored that shot as well in the 1st half. Both teams didn't play conservative. They cancel each other out due to spacing and formations from the way Pep and Mikel set ups. Even if De Bruyne, Rodri, Saka played. All 3 would still have the same issues. Rodri probably win tackles and win fouls to slow Arsenal's momentum. Perhaps KDB gives Haaland a couple goal scoring opportunity or takes some shots on target. Perhaps Saka does the same and wins fouls, gets a shot or creates an opportunity for someone. The fact is the substitute changes from Mikel worked brilliantly and change the tactics compare to Pep's substitute changes that costed the game.

    • @mikesingh6099
      @mikesingh6099 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@javierlandaverde4108 no question Ake scores it changes the entire game. But you look at Gvardiol he didn’t have to work all game. Look at how walker was pushing the ball up in the first half vs the second half when Marty came in.
      Let’s not forget Kov should’ve been sent off on the second challenge. That was bad.

    • @javierlandaverde4108
      @javierlandaverde4108 Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@mikesingh6099 Gvardiol was good. His match up vs Jesus was a reason why Pep shifted him as a LB. He was physical vs Jesus, he won the physical match up, he won any balls that were kicked to Jesus. He made Jesus frustrated and threw him off his game. He was winning that match up. I don't think Pep instructed him to go up and join the attack as long as he won his match up. Jesus was fairly quiet in that game on offense. Walker on the other hand is a traditional RB / Wing Back. He was probably given the green light to join the attack.

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@javierlandaverde4108Rodri has better ref decisions for some reason and makes the refs not want to call the cynical stabs just after the other players pass the ball

  • @praktika1082
    @praktika1082 Před 7 měsíci +20

    Arteta kept it stable until late on and then by subbing on Tomiyasu and Havertz, both tall and aerially capable players, and instructing Tomiyasu to switch to the left 8 spaces and for both to look for long balls to them, he planned for a late knock out punch that Pep didn't anticipate.

  • @zsht
    @zsht Před 7 měsíci +15

    This is the same Michael Oliver that gave Martinelli two yellow cards in 7 seconds for two very minor petty infractions. Still, it’s pretty sweet they still beat 11-man City

  • @Chapman1886
    @Chapman1886 Před 7 měsíci +165

    Arsenal have been able to play a front three of Martinelli-Jesus-Saka a total of 23 min so far this season. They are dealing with a revolving door of injuries. Last season, Arsenal started the season with a settled eleven and front three that could build chemistry, while this season has, so far, been about controlling games, yes, but also to better handle 3-5 key players being out at the same time.
    Results have been good overall, and territorial dominance and possession is significantly better than last season, but they look very disjointed in attack so far. Let's see how much of it is tactical, or if it's primarily injury-related. The left 8 position has been ineffectual offensively so far, so Havertz, or someone else, need to find a solution to the attacking struggles.
    Arsenal played into City's hands last season and, while they looked the more threatening team in the early stage of the game because they naively attacked recklessly, City absorbed the attacks and then ruthlessly countered. This time, Arsenal set up like City, and forced them to break Arsenal down. Instead, it became a tactical battle that Arteta won due to a bit of luck, a very astute defensive game plan, and smart subs. It was a pragmatic win for Arteta.

    • @isaacsempija4340
      @isaacsempija4340 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Arsenal haven't yet played first front 3 together and is a contributing factor to a slow start. Its refreshing though to see we can now play with even 2 big players out, bodes well looiing foward.

    • @luthandombombo7558
      @luthandombombo7558 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Just to point out a few facts of city to counter this.
      City have been forced to change their attacking routine as well. City don't have a settled attacking formation due to obvious reasons for example KDB injury, Rodri suspension, Grealish still trying to get back to top form from his injury likewise Stones. The main focus point of this game in every season would be the midfield and with both teams having that part of the pitch rather unsettled, the attacking outlets would receive less of the ball.
      Trossard for many reasons was not receiving much and doing even less when he eventually got it meant the ball was mainly being sent to Jesus. Perhaps even tactically, as Jesus has more "big-game" premier League experience. Gvardiol himself did incredibly well in his own right.
      Now when City did attempt to progress the ball, the width was being held by Walker and Gvadiol. With both Foden and Alvarez infield to try overload that area. However while they did do it effectively, this then also resulted in there being not much room for Haaland to pull any defenders with him. A trait Haaland perhaps needs to work on if it is compact.
      Not sure we can credit Arteta to the extent that you're doing it. As with all things considered, the long ball was uncharacteristic and more of gambling than strategy. Havertz + Tomiyasu did well enough to cause just enough trouble for Walker + Dias and release Martinelli for a shot however, from a couple of reverse TV angles Ederson was already moving the way of the shot so it was incredibly fortunate that Akes head was in the right place and position for that deflection. Ake missed a sitter in the the first ten minutes only for him to be the recipient of an unlucky deflection putting it in his own net in the last ten minutes.
      Fine margins all of over the pitch, a number of questionable decisions taken by Michael Oliver could've, would've and should've changed the game.
      But overall both coaches set up as pragmatic as possible and neither one would've been upset with what was probably going to be a point each.
      The reverse fixture with both squads hopefully settled and at full strength the odds probably swing back to Man city as with KDB + Rodri back they "should" produce more big game moments.
      In my personal opinion Arsenal have regressed slightly with the addition of Havertz as far as output and goals are concerned perhaps why they are still looking to bring in the likes of Ivan Toney etc. To Arsenals credit though, City did manage to win a premier League title without an established goal scorer a few seasons back so there still is a chance. However we all know and are aware of the "City Surge" and with all guns firing Arsenal won't have enough firepower to see it through to the end...again.

    • @Emeraldcity123
      @Emeraldcity123 Před 7 měsíci

      What major club hasn’t dealt with injuries this season?

    • @Gooner184
      @Gooner184 Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@Emeraldcity123 The point was to simply counter the narrative Arsenal have intentionally scarified their attacking play. We're playing worse and scoring less goals because simply our usual front 3 have barely played together.

    • @lichaiepperson3009
      @lichaiepperson3009 Před 7 měsíci

      Perfect explanation

  • @vishal3597
    @vishal3597 Před 7 měsíci +65

    Tactically really well explained but the move that lead to the goal was a spectacle. Tomiyasu was marked by Foden in a position that normally fits the inverted full back. But he quickly glances over at Foden, makes a darting run towards City's box, and meets Parteys ball from deep for the pre-assist. It was a thing of beauty watching that unfold. Havertz with the assist as well. Proves that even with structure, it's important to be slightly unpredictable. Deserved win. COYG!

    • @rentboys78-qk8tp
      @rentboys78-qk8tp Před 7 měsíci +2

      that type of improvisation is exactly what we needed against lens in the champions league and i think we rlly learned from that game to be more direct and to take a chance

  • @lemimurillo888
    @lemimurillo888 Před 7 měsíci +27

    the simple fact that arteta built a squad that is like water (bruce lee reference). can mould itself into whatever system he wants to beat the opponent. that’s what i find entertaining.

    • @perfectman3077
      @perfectman3077 Před 7 měsíci

      Water = have less xG than West Ham? What a joke.

    • @omother6950
      @omother6950 Před 7 měsíci +4

      You need that unpredictability, they have a more defensive style for man city which makes the game 50/50 they also have a style for man United which is let them have the ball around the back since they’re useless with it and just stop the counter attack. And the rest of the mid table teams just do the usual and pin them in with the inverted fullback and rice and overload the midfield dominate possession and whatever happens happens like the 4-0 against Bournemouth

    • @Qlicky
      @Qlicky Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@perfectman3077Too bad XG is not worth anything.

    • @lemimurillo888
      @lemimurillo888 Před 7 měsíci

      @@perfectman3077at the end of the day…we haven’t lost, and we just beat city..we’re doing exactly what we couldn’t do last season and that’s not losing games with our alternative team. we beat city without saka and timber…lol shove that xG up ⬆️

    • @lemimurillo888
      @lemimurillo888 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@omother6950it’s not that they’re unpredictable, it’s that arteta is adapting to what he has available at the moment and the reason why we’re joint top is because of the players arteta chose to sign, players who can adapt to any position. if timber was fit, we’d have a set starting 11. i think it’s more about adapting rather than unpredictability…

  • @azhaanparishwadi3546
    @azhaanparishwadi3546 Před 7 měsíci +26

    I don't get how it was a boring match
    I was thinking about how good the match has already been 30 minutes in

    • @manwhoasked5942
      @manwhoasked5942 Před 7 měsíci

      There was a drop in quality in the second half when players started to get desperate. First half was okay.

    • @ZekPlaysHD
      @ZekPlaysHD Před 7 měsíci +1

      Same! I was glued to it the whole time. Really enjoyed watching the off the ball defensive movement. Lots of interesting plays!

  • @daveaum
    @daveaum Před 7 měsíci +89

    I'd just like to say thanks for the adept, non-partisan tactical analysis... something that is woefully absent from the mainstream football punditry nowadays!

    • @manwhoasked5942
      @manwhoasked5942 Před 7 měsíci +6

      ​@@jamesmccaul2945 especially when this channel is known to be partial in what they promote.

    • @daveaum
      @daveaum Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@jamesmccaul2945 I think you might need to look up the definition of non-partisan! 🙈😅

    • @dondamon4669
      @dondamon4669 Před 7 měsíci

      Glad it was good enough for you this free content. Shouldn't you be watching Ole ruggers?

    • @kunimitsune177
      @kunimitsune177 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Punditry? Almost none of the people you're referencing are experts i.e. not pundits. These guys for example are just aficionados (afaik), NOT pundits.

    • @manwhoasked5942
      @manwhoasked5942 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@kunimitsune177 and when they DO get analysts in the panel as guests, they talk over them, or cut their sentences short to make some jokes. That's something I dislike.

  • @judedavis
    @judedavis Před 7 měsíci +17

    I think this was a pretty extreme version of what we want to do OOP due to the fact it was City. We haven't hit real fluidity yet in attack because we've had some changes in midfield but also we haven't had our front 3 (Jesus, Martinelli and Saka) play together yet! It'll come..

  • @pmn_K
    @pmn_K Před 7 měsíci +55

    “Arsenal don’t suit wide attacking play” whilst having 2 of the brightest wingers on the planet

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan Před 7 měsíci

      Arsenal having some long outlet balls and getting it working was honesty more instructive than a lot of the rest of the game.

    • @SonicAvalanche
      @SonicAvalanche Před 7 měsíci +10

      Their strengths are more technique than pace though

    • @charlieshhh2030
      @charlieshhh2030 Před 7 měsíci

      Who both cut in

    • @micah0190
      @micah0190 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@charlieshhh2030But can go both ways…

    • @charlieshhh2030
      @charlieshhh2030 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@micah0190 true, but this season we’ve quite often been forced wide and then had to pass it back and around to the other wing. We aren’t very dangerous directly from the wide areas when teams sit deep against us

  • @Kemi2416
    @Kemi2416 Před 7 měsíci +53

    Hi, love your videos and the in-depth analysis (it's far better than anything on TV these days). However, I do think it's inaccurate to suggest that Arsenal didn't press high. This wasn't a situation like in the United game, where they knew that United's only route of attack was Onana's direct long-balls to wide runners (and so, they completely stood off and let United dictate play).
    Here, Arsenal were indeed careful to not get 'baited' and leave central areas exposed, but when the ball went down to Ederson, they pressed quite high up, and actively (although with far less intensity than, say, the Spurs game).
    Also - Zinchenko was positioned in his usual faux-LB/ centre mid role throughout the first half. They did change tack in the second half (still dunno what led to this).
    I think the major difference this season is that Arsenal are prepared to vary their usual playstyle to match/ counter the opposition. And there is a degree of variation in their press each game. They are being quite smart about it.

    • @abo1732
      @abo1732 Před 7 měsíci +14

      This is a much better analysis than the “it wasn’t fun to watch” nonsense they kept spewing out in the video

    • @izzojunior
      @izzojunior Před 7 měsíci +4

      Very good analysis.

    • @dennisgichohi5392
      @dennisgichohi5392 Před 7 měsíci +1

      This was great analysis

  • @thuo1000
    @thuo1000 Před 7 měsíci +4

    City's new signings need time to adapt to the team and to Pep's requirements. Rodri himself struggled so much in his first season at City with mistaked upon mistakes especially in big games. People including the media criticized Rodri by saying he was not the player to fill in Fernandinho's shoes. Look at him now. Once these new signings have fully adapted, then City will unlock an even higher level.
    People like to write off City whenever they start off slow or are in a poor form momentarily. Yet City always know how to bounce back when ut really matters.

  • @DailyWord3832
    @DailyWord3832 Před 7 měsíci +28

    It was complex game for city, they can't take possession like before

    • @jontellie
      @jontellie Před 7 měsíci

      But we did take possession what you on about bruv?

    • @firephoenix019
      @firephoenix019 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@jontellieman city don't share 50-50 possession often

  • @ridakesserwan8712
    @ridakesserwan8712 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I enjoyed the fact that even VAR , which i will consider a seperate entity this time, tried to stop Arsenal with Man City and still failed

  • @mavrayne
    @mavrayne Před 7 měsíci +77

    Goals win you games. Defense win you titles.

    • @masterchief1520
      @masterchief1520 Před 7 měsíci +7

      What titles

    • @hygelac121
      @hygelac121 Před 7 měsíci +16

      It could refer to either team. So in city’s case, it has lead to a UCL and multiple league title

    • @starseeed
      @starseeed Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@masterchief1520 a treble

    • @suiro8455
      @suiro8455 Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@masterchief1520liverpool didn't win until they have van dijk

    • @masterchief1520
      @masterchief1520 Před 7 měsíci

      @@suiro8455 right they should have sold salah 👀

  • @stevemead4021
    @stevemead4021 Před 7 měsíci +60

    Reminded me of the sterile Serie A games of old. Two team trying not to lose rather than trying to win.

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 Před 7 měsíci +13

      When I watched Gazzeta football Italia it was exactly like this. Back then though English teams were horrendous, kick and rush headless chickens and I marvelled at how the Italian teams were so technical and the players movement protected the ball with such grace. It wasn't exciting but I could see how they beat us so regularly. I just loved their technical and tactically superior game. I am very pleased that the Premier league has kept a lot of the excitement but added technique, skill and tactical nous. I will always miss watching Ronaldo rip Italian teams to peices though.

    • @IPIRIEY
      @IPIRIEY Před 7 měsíci +2

      Honestly I thought it was an Arteta masterclass paired with exceptional play from Rice and Saliba. Saliba locked up Haaland in multiple 1v1 opportunities for the striker. Arteta didn't get baited into burning his teams energy pressing the whole game. And then lastly, the subs had significantly more impact for Arsenal. Also if you found the game boring, just remember Arsenal give up 8 shots per game at home typically, and City only had 4 shots the entire game. It was more of a City bus park if anything. I think Pep was just satisfied with going for the 1 point while playing into hoping Arsenal either make a mistake, or press to high allowing a gap in the defense.

    • @anguswheaton20
      @anguswheaton20 Před 7 měsíci

      All those teams were quality,
      even the lesser ones like Sampdoria, Lazio and Parma. All had some outstandingly gifted players.

  • @werdna42
    @werdna42 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I think this analysis was based only in the first half. Where City was doing a better press and more man to man press rather than the zone press of Arsenal, even forcing Arsenal retreat from City's have to Arsenal's keeper. The change of Martinelli made Raya no longer play the ball short but start playing ling balls being City's defensive line avoiding the press and reduce losing the ball in Arsenal's own field. That is how the goal arrived and most of Arsenal's attacking situations.

  • @CarlieGuss
    @CarlieGuss Před 7 měsíci +13

    I might be in the minority, but i didn't find any of the game boring at all

    • @Human_Harvest
      @Human_Harvest Před 7 měsíci

      Nope absolutely awesome game to watch tactically

  • @thomasbrackpool8568
    @thomasbrackpool8568 Před 7 měsíci +2

    That Walthamstow FC kit is class!

  • @blvck5943
    @blvck5943 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Playing fun and open was something City was fundamentally better at than us. We adjusted and grinded it out the hard way I LOVE IT!!!!

  • @SakiGolafale
    @SakiGolafale Před 5 měsíci

    A key part of the game was how the goal came. The subs and Tomiyasu presence high up in attack was something worth mentioning.

  • @davidmurphy2388
    @davidmurphy2388 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Our front 3 have played a total of 20 odd minutes together

  • @drex5160
    @drex5160 Před 7 měsíci +61

    Pep is doing his experiments again without Rodri, like the beginning of last season when Bernado was playing Quarterback.

    • @n0body550
      @n0body550 Před 7 měsíci +32

      Quarterback? 🤮 go away

    • @TheDavinci888
      @TheDavinci888 Před 7 měsíci +26

      Qatarback

    • @killjoy3373
      @killjoy3373 Před 7 měsíci +6

      What was he supposed to do? He is missing his 2 best players, and the centerpieces of his team. He also lost Gundo in the summer and Stones was just coming of an injury. Its not like he would actually play Kalvin Phillips

    • @joeynyesss1286
      @joeynyesss1286 Před 7 měsíci

      Ew

    • @Hellothere-ok4pk
      @Hellothere-ok4pk Před 7 měsíci

      Halfback not Quarterback 😂

  • @dirk.no-whisky.4u
    @dirk.no-whisky.4u Před 7 měsíci +2

    Holding on Haaland... 😅😅😅 Oh my days, that's beyond tactical at that stage

  • @muchaveler
    @muchaveler Před 7 měsíci +2

    This was a strange video. Especially the xG comment. it's probably too early to try find any meaningful info or trends in an 8-game sample but if you will, why not also look at xGA? The trade-off has been almost total control in every game & barely giving up chances. A solid base, esp with the Martinelli-Jesus-Saka front 3 yet to get meaningful minutes.

  • @ganeshbulusu
    @ganeshbulusu Před 7 měsíci

    The front 3 that played so many matches together for Arsenal last season has not played once together yet this season
    We have replaced a major midfielder in our squad and are still trying to adopt to it
    Almost all of our penalties are last ditch attempts to cut down a final cutback/a shot.

  • @RoadsideRoamer
    @RoadsideRoamer Před 7 měsíci

    Can I just say I missed the name cards in this one? ):
    Otherwise, great analysis! I now always look forward to these after the gameweek!

  • @sanjivgoswami6114
    @sanjivgoswami6114 Před 7 měsíci

    With all due respect to Tifo , I am an Arsenal fan with Mancity being my 2nd favourite team.
    Yes it was by no means box to box blockbuster but it was a tactical battle from both the coaches nullifying each other by any means possible.
    If you are neutral fan, or an experienced watcher of Champions league type matches, it was amazing. Big, physical and technical players going head to head alongside Pep knowing what Arteta does and vice versa.
    Liverpool, Spurs, Brighton & Newcastle going the adventurous way and teams like Mancity and Arsenal preferring the tactical and slower way.

  • @DEEDUBZ
    @DEEDUBZ Před 7 měsíci

    Toney and Neto are needed for The Arsenal to really compete for Major Honours. Toney terrorises Defenders both Home and Away, and also convert chances. Plus he is a smart tactical Player with superb movement, and great Link up play with all his Teammates; even the GK (Raya). A Left Footed Winger has to be brought. Neto. Comfortable at LW or RW, which would give the Team more wersatility and unpredictability. Neto, like Toney, is another great link up Player.

  • @johnBonVentura
    @johnBonVentura Před 7 měsíci +11

    One of the most exiting games I’ve ever seen. Watching the scales shift.

  • @bigman25plus25
    @bigman25plus25 Před 7 měsíci +2

    When the man said ‘Declan Rice is probably the best in the world in these kind of areas’ I thought ‘wow imagine if he was in a team with Jude Bellingham’
    Then I remembered that he is! Cmon England! (And Arsenal)

    • @EldenRingClipsAndCriticalHits
      @EldenRingClipsAndCriticalHits Před 7 měsíci

      Just a shame Southgate doesn’t play Ben White alongside Stones at CB for England. Then they’d finally have an amazing spine all the way through the team

    • @leonthethird7494
      @leonthethird7494 Před 7 měsíci

      Arent they both right sided centerbacks?@@EldenRingClipsAndCriticalHits

  • @matthewmillington-king1529
    @matthewmillington-king1529 Před 7 měsíci +1

    As an Arsenal fan, I absolutely love to hear people theorising about whether we're too good defensively 😂
    Plenty of evidence - start with Bmouth and PSV - that when the opportunity presents itself we can go all out and just kill a team.
    Also fun fact: our front 3 of Saka, Jesus, Martinelli has played 21 minutes together all season.
    But we've received so much criticism for allowing games like Everton and Palace away to become too open and exciting in the past. Killing them as occasions and trusting we will find that moment for the win is super professional and will take us far.

  • @timothypiper5793
    @timothypiper5793 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Arsenal haven’t even left 3rd gear yet going forward . Seen a few people critical of us not having that fluidity going forward. I get that , I think some of it has been sacrificed for more defensive prowess. Also got to consider that our ideal front 3 of martinelli , Jesus and saka haven’t started a game together yet this season

  • @bendik8161
    @bendik8161 Před 7 měsíci +15

    Should be mentioned that Arsenal haven't had their starting front 3 in a single game this season when talking about their lack of chance creation. Also Vieira/Havertz have way more potential but aren't currently better than Xhaka in that midfield role, largely due to learning a new system/role and having to adapt.
    Disagree they play more defensive, they want to create chances the same way as last time but just haven't had the personnel so far.

    • @Cauryau
      @Cauryau Před 7 měsíci

      Completely agree. How do they not mention Martinelli being out and having to carry Havertz as possible reasons for less fluidity and threat.

  • @leemcverry4636
    @leemcverry4636 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Where do I get the usual classic football shirt prints from the background ?

  • @anglichaninblin
    @anglichaninblin Před 7 měsíci +1

    Love that shirt 😍 my son plays for Walthamstow 💪🏻

  • @haemeshks
    @haemeshks Před 7 měsíci +2

    Rare Tifo L. Not mentioning Tomiyasu's role in the goal and the spot on substitutions.

  • @brocolis42
    @brocolis42 Před 7 měsíci

    What is this software you guys use to show the tactics?

  • @ThePoraon
    @ThePoraon Před 7 měsíci

    Does anyone know what kind of software are the using for the tactical board?

  • @jaaroAr
    @jaaroAr Před 7 měsíci +3

    I adore JJ Bull, without him this channel would be unwatchable
    football! SOCCER!

  • @bigrandomun9267
    @bigrandomun9267 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I wonder how this will change how teams play against Man City because now teams know it’s much better to give Haaland space rather than marking him tightly or playing him off, the attack and midfield at times is very far apart, and Rodri is the link so he’s who you should keep off the ball and marked.

  • @yaboydolphin
    @yaboydolphin Před 7 měsíci +1

    this channel rocks

  • @BlackAdammovie
    @BlackAdammovie Před 7 měsíci +5

    I think man city has losed balance after gundogon has gone, stones injured, Kevin de bruyne is not available and rodri same as well but problem here is, that they don't have some who provide service to halland, grealish is not playing stead doku is playing but he is one dimesional

    • @blazinghighlights6293
      @blazinghighlights6293 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Didn't city spend a bunch of money signing 4 top players??? How can they be missing players?? What kinda excuse is that

    • @takesalotta112
      @takesalotta112 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Lost*

  • @kaytobierre5313
    @kaytobierre5313 Před 7 měsíci +3

    As ever great analysis, but something to consider about the lack of ‘fun’ is that Arsenal have not been able to start with their preferred front three of Gabi, Jesus and Saka (which is fun times) Also Timber great versatility but I think he was going to play inverted right back to give greater unpredictability and Zen remain at left back. As Timber can do Ben Wrights role as hybrid CB to FB but inverted like Zen.
    I think the fun times will return but it’s encouraging that this team will be able to attack and lock teams down.

  • @peterkeleher
    @peterkeleher Před 7 měsíci

    is that a walthamstow kit? its lovely!

  • @emilyeroen1277
    @emilyeroen1277 Před 7 měsíci

    That William Morris kit tho 😍

  • @reptarhouse
    @reptarhouse Před 7 měsíci

    As an arsenal fan, it was an incredibly fun game to watch!

  • @-name-_
    @-name-_ Před 7 měsíci

    Great video but re arsenal being less attacking. I don’t agree its the personal additions - its the fact that their front 3 are yet to start a game together this season coz of injuries!!!

  • @wills.1978
    @wills.1978 Před 7 měsíci +1

    impressive win for arsenal against man city and dubai-owned michael oliver

  • @alejandrodardon7091
    @alejandrodardon7091 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Saying that Arsenal is boring this season is a naive thing to say. The fact is most teams last season saw that if they take risks they will be punished and get scored on. Last seasons teams left a lot of space for arsenal to attack, that is why players like Zinchenko and Gabriel Jesus looked like bargains for what we paid. Now every team uses a low block vs Arsenal and try to counter, but when teams take risks and don't sit in a low block you get to see just how powerful Arsenal is attacking, take the PSV UCL game as an example. They went over to the Emirates and wanted to take the game to Arsenal, PSV ended up getting picked apart and the game was over in the first half. So rather than saying Arsenal isn't as fun as last season, take a look at how teams setup against Arsenal.

  • @nicomiller7393
    @nicomiller7393 Před 7 měsíci +2

    As long as Nketiah continues to start, those expected goals will continue to be horrendous lol

  • @StudWalker
    @StudWalker Před 7 měsíci +1

    Do a video on liverpool currently!

  • @Nilla_S
    @Nilla_S Před 7 měsíci +23

    Imagine talking about Arteta getting players who`re good between the lines and not mentioning Havertz?

    • @mwendwabrian695
      @mwendwabrian695 Před 7 měsíci +10

      😂😂😂😂It's called BIAS.
      Once you hate a player, you can't seem them

    • @Flash4ML
      @Flash4ML Před 7 měsíci +3

      I don’t think Tito hates Havertz lol, Rice was mentioned because they were talking about the more defensive aspect of Arsenals summer signings

    • @singalexsong
      @singalexsong Před 7 měsíci

      What does "who're" mean?

    • @buttermilkjesus8880
      @buttermilkjesus8880 Před 7 měsíci

      @@singalexsongwho are, presumably

    • @mikesantiago14
      @mikesantiago14 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@singalexsong"who are", but you knew this already

  • @sultanabran1
    @sultanabran1 Před 7 měsíci

    kai havertz has been very passive and i feel hasn't let the attacking flow that well. when saka, jesus and matinelli are the front 3, things will be different eddie presses well but hasn't proven to be a regular scorer.

  • @thomassteenkamp4575
    @thomassteenkamp4575 Před 7 měsíci

    Can we have a video On Girona in Laliga and how they are 2nd in the league as a newly promoted side?

  • @benberk7669
    @benberk7669 Před 7 měsíci

    A typically interesting video, but one of the last statements that Arsenal aren't good when attacking from wide just blatantly ignores that Saka and Martinelli are two of the best in the world at attacking wide. Saka missed the match and Martinelli only had 30 minutes in him. So Arteta made the best choice with the players available to him. If Saka/Martinelli are fully fit, I wonder how that changes the strategy.
    Also, besides Declan Rice the biggest difference between this match and previous years was William Saliba. He (along with Gabriel obviously) entirely took Haaland out of the match and in particular, Saliba bodying up on him and brushing him aside early set the tone. Haaland is used to just physically dominating opposing centerbacks with power and speed. Saliba can match him.

  • @MrSith-yp3yq
    @MrSith-yp3yq Před 7 měsíci

    VAR has decided that potentially ankle-breaking tackles from behind are only yellow. Will they be consistent on this for the rest of the season?

  • @johanmngqungu7056
    @johanmngqungu7056 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I think you explained how Arsenal didn't lose to Man city rather than how they beat Man city.

  • @ousman997
    @ousman997 Před 7 měsíci

    Finally the video is out now

  • @Manoj17Patankar
    @Manoj17Patankar Před 7 měsíci +1

    10:05 Ode'gourd'

    • @alexanderopdahl290
      @alexanderopdahl290 Před 7 měsíci

      It's pretty much right on the money in terms of Norwegian pronunciation though haha

  • @saadafm
    @saadafm Před 7 měsíci

    As a gunner, I loved this game haha

  • @Maxrodon
    @Maxrodon Před 7 měsíci +1

    Not to take away from Arsenal's win, but I really feel City are a different side without Rodri and had he played the outcome would have been different.

  • @ma7eus97
    @ma7eus97 Před 7 měsíci +3

    They just can't give arsenal any real props 😭😭😭😭

  • @Methodman88
    @Methodman88 Před 7 měsíci +1

    They're not scoring as many goals as well because key attackers have been out injured also. Jesus had a spell out, Martinelli, Saka, now Trossard got a slight hammy hence why he was brought off after half time. Truth be told we need more end product from Havertz, and Smith Rowe needs to be involved in the campaign if we have any chance of winning the league

  • @whatevername8551
    @whatevername8551 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Other teams have been causing Arsenal trouble by crowding the middle, so Arteta uses the tactic against City. Well done.

  • @coryakabueze4541
    @coryakabueze4541 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Haaland was in saliba pocket

  • @tituschalk
    @tituschalk Před 7 měsíci

    Xhaka has left quite a big hole it seems. Wish Arsenal had managed to snag Gundogan who would have offered that central threat in a way none of the options as the second 8 appear to (yet?).

  • @theopratama9047
    @theopratama9047 Před 7 měsíci +10

    The whole match is a 4d chess , it looks like a snooze fest but the way they changing the direction of the game is really great

  • @shombiswas
    @shombiswas Před 7 měsíci

    Castolo of Pro Evo!

  • @zaphbrannigan
    @zaphbrannigan Před 7 měsíci

    So did Jon McKenzie take over Tifo IRL from Joe Devine in a succession esque plot?? Seems like he is the main character of Tifo irl now lol

    • @PatrickVS101
      @PatrickVS101 Před 7 měsíci

      I don’t know Joe Devine was ever really the main on IRL, save the podcast. Far more a JJ Bull main with Dog McKenzie boring it up more and more now

  • @neville_bamshoot
    @neville_bamshoot Před 7 měsíci

    They've only played 8 games how can you say with certainty their attack isn't as good as last season. They did well getting into the box from wings against city they just didn't square it early enough. Jesus had that issue a couple of times just himself.
    They often attack wide with Ben white as an overlapper either as a decoy to create space for saka inside by dragging a defender away or by white himself then crossing.
    Also i have to say that foden and other city players made so many good runs in behind especially in the first half and city should've attempted those passes way more. Could've scored one. Not enough directness and risk taking.
    Liverpool vs brighton had lots of moments like that, for example march driving forward to win the free kick which brighton scored from. Just have to take risks.
    Foden did that for city after arsenal scored but obviously it was too little too late

  • @scramharoldinho
    @scramharoldinho Před 7 měsíci +2

    all excitement for beating city aside,i have a feeling like in the recent games city "respected" us somehow i dont know if its due to our coach and how we seem like some sort of replica of them philosophy wise, but they did not press as highly as usual the team was like split in two with their midfield not being as dominant as usual so it was mainly defenders who shone on both sides and it allowed us to play and the absence of most of their spine was visible,the same game with them i am not so sure the outcome is a win for us
    kovacic's tackles showed he is not a dm it was very clumsy good and top class dm's know how to repeat strong tackles before maybe even getting a yellow a top dm has that in his locker to repeat tackles which are agressive but in the right limit and make himself "invisible" to the ref until some point,i wonder why pep did not trust either stones or kalvin there,it was quite lightweight with rico and kovacic,its as if we went to city with jorginho and vieira as double pivot and city had 99 per cent of their best eleven,they'd have hammered us surely

    • @masterchief1520
      @masterchief1520 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Definitely due to your coach. Coach comes first with your recent improvements. Pep has always respected mikel and believed in him since his first season

    • @scramharoldinho
      @scramharoldinho Před 7 měsíci

      @@ImaybeNormal exactly,and even haaland,credit to gabriel and saliba who have most of the time handled him fairly well since they play against him,but i am sure he'd have done better than he did if city played their usual vibrant high pressing way
      so many times he dropped back to get the ball and try to build but there was rarely anybody on the same wave length they were often miles apart whereas city's real game is like they are 15 on the field since they always manage to get people available
      even bernardo silva at some point was like the dm,makes no sense it could have worked against a burnley or a sheffield but an almostcomplete arsenal without only one of the main players nahhh

    • @scramharoldinho
      @scramharoldinho Před 7 měsíci

      @@masterchief1520 yes,thats my point maybe they felt like if they played as usual which he knows very well he might counter fast with the electric pace of martinelli for example

    • @officiallywaz
      @officiallywaz Před 7 měsíci +1

      Tbh the tactical analysis here is exactly why City 'respected' us because we complete shut down the spaces and bored them to death with Raya slowing the game down to nanoseconds. It was ingenious to make them rot like this and disrupt their rhythm. 😂

  • @ellisgreen1479
    @ellisgreen1479 Před 7 měsíci

    Who is the voice that dose the outro ???

  • @SakayoBukayo
    @SakayoBukayo Před 7 měsíci

    Imagine that chicken shop date lady + bobbi the new podcast lady + this guy with the blue top ..all 3 together would be insanely awkward n funny

  • @playerish
    @playerish Před 7 měsíci

    Mikel has finally cracked peps code

  • @jo_magpie
    @jo_magpie Před 7 měsíci +4

    Arsenal had won the league if they beat City once last season...

  • @earthlyvibes23
    @earthlyvibes23 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I dont care how we did it, im just happy we finally won a league game against city

  • @billhill9882
    @billhill9882 Před 7 měsíci +1

    How can you tacticaone lly arrange or plan a deflection. I think Arteta and Pep have found the cure for insomnia. Beautiful Game - try ugly and be more entertaining and exciting. Bill

  • @kevinfrancis5226
    @kevinfrancis5226 Před 7 měsíci

    So even if City's 'best' players were on the pitch i.e Rodri, KDB and Stones, and Arsenal had Saka, the game would've still played out the same way?

  • @lukemorris4065
    @lukemorris4065 Před 7 měsíci

    With a deflected own goal with no kdb Rodri and no fullbacks couldn’t create a sentence with that lineup

  • @ricardocuriel8764
    @ricardocuriel8764 Před 7 měsíci +21

    Can’t believe two people who think they know about football thought this was a boring game. It was a game of the highest quality

    • @ajinjoyacdc
      @ajinjoyacdc Před 7 měsíci +5

      It was a boring game, both team didn't take any risk. I am an Arsenal fan.

    • @kunimitsune177
      @kunimitsune177 Před 7 měsíci

      Ikr tifo is a sham

    • @Human_Harvest
      @Human_Harvest Před 7 měsíci

      Spot on comment to be fair! Tactical war for sure.

    • @ThePsuedo
      @ThePsuedo Před 7 měsíci

      I like Tifo. They're secure in themselves and feel to need to pretend like a lot of tacticos on twitter
      Football is about entertainment value so even may be interesting on a tactical level it can still be boring and lacking in quality.

  • @Andreas-tv6sq
    @Andreas-tv6sq Před 7 měsíci

    Creds to John for pronouncing "Ødegaard" like a native Norwegian!

  • @destructodonut8733
    @destructodonut8733 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Its a North London Title Race boys!!

    • @jgons
      @jgons Před 7 měsíci +2

      Nah. Spuds are one injury away from faltering. They look great with their starting XI healthy but they don’t have the depth.

  • @raymanLENG
    @raymanLENG Před 7 měsíci

    can u guys at least talk about the process of the goal, 'cause it's pretty obvious that Tomiyasu suddenly making that overlapping run was by instructions of Mikel Arteta, all 4 subs contributed to the only goal of the match.

  • @Pebble_Collector
    @Pebble_Collector Před 7 měsíci

    I thought it was like a chess match between two football geniuses

  • @svgstudios831
    @svgstudios831 Před 7 měsíci

    nice seeing michael from vsauce here

  • @Honkformonk
    @Honkformonk Před 7 měsíci +1

    I think there were number of runs foden or haaland made but city simply couldn’t use those runs. Silva’s class but he’s awful in those situations for some reason

  • @SatLive1
    @SatLive1 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Jon Mackenzie is my kinda football analyst. I like Mackenzie's perception of football games.

  • @Bekzhanay
    @Bekzhanay Před 7 měsíci +1

    No Rodri, no De Bruyne, this is answer to this question

    • @buttermilkjesus8880
      @buttermilkjesus8880 Před 7 měsíci

      yes because losing saka/one half of gabi wasnt a big deal at all !!

  • @mortaljokes
    @mortaljokes Před 7 měsíci

    How arsenal finally beat man city: 17min video. Me in 3 sec: No Kevin de Bruyne, no Rodri.

  • @djbowen76
    @djbowen76 Před 7 měsíci

    Disagree with that final take. I think injuries have dampened our attack more than anything. Haven't started our preferred Jesus, Martinelli, Saka yet.
    Also we don't HAVE to play through the middle. We have elite wingers.

  • @Gladiatorking7
    @Gladiatorking7 Před 7 měsíci

    Ten Hag did it in his first season 😮

  • @jo_magpie
    @jo_magpie Před 7 měsíci +2

    City had 0.00 xG on target(xGOT)