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TIME STAMPS:
00:00 - what's the appeal of HGTV?
2:01 - Love It or List It
3:35 - Property Brothers
4:39 - Fixer Upper (and the Chip & Joanna empire)
7:45 - Bombas!
8:48 - Flip or Flop (profiting off the housing crash)
16:36 - extra Tarek El Moussa lore
18:34 - HGTV's oversaturation problem
22:48 - don't worry about prior tenants!
25:11 - final thoughts
RESOURCES & REFERENCES:
house flippers & the home renovation obsession | Internet Analysis - • house flippers & the h...
2002 Room by Room HGTV program - • 2002 Room by Room HGTV...
Love It or List It - Best Hilary and David Banters - • Love It or List It - B...
'Love It Or List It' Lawsuit - • 'Love It Or List It' L...
Beware the Open-Plan Kitchen (by Caitlin Flanagan) - www.vulture.com/2017/09/the-u...
I did it.. I went to THE Chip & Joanna Gaines Magnolia Market in Waco, TX... (Paige Wassel) - • I did it.. I went to T...
Flip or Flop - www.hgtv.com/shows/flip-or-flop
Lingering impact of foreclosure crisis felt most in Hispanic and Black communities, study says (by Michele Lerner) - www.washingtonpost.com/busine...
Good-bye to Flip or Flop (by Katie McDonough) - www.curbed.com/2022/03/flip-o...
North Hollywood residents claim HGTV's Tarek El Moussa is evicting them for a 'big flip' - • North Hollywood reside...
What Goes On Behind the Cameras at Home Makeover Shows? (by Debra Kamin) - www.nytimes.com/2022/05/27/re...
Help I Wrecked My House - www.hgtv.com/shows/help-i-wre...
Fix My Flip - www.hgtv.com/shows/fix-my-flip
Episode 116: The Pro-Gentrification Aspirationalism of HGTV’s House-Flipping Shows (Citations Needed transcript) - / episode-116-the-pro-ge...
The Curse Official Trailer | SHOWTIME - • The Curse Official Tra...
HGTV's hidden dark side (by Ann-Derrick Gaillot) - theoutline.com/post/1655/hgtv...
We Bought A Crack House (by Catherine Jheon) - torontolife.com/real-estate/p...
Houses with History - www.hgtv.com/shows/houses-wit...
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welcome back!! I've watched too much HGTV so now we have to talk about it :-)
Home renovation TV is addicting. 🤣 Actually my favorite was a BBC show called Grand Designs that just follows different people doing interesting home build and renovations. Many episodes take years to make because sometimes that's just how long it took to build the places. Every project is unique, except that without exception it costs at least 20% more than expected and usually much longer.
Tiff, you used to be so young and hot! What happened?
@@laid07 She doesn't exist for you to find pleasure in her looks. Also she's still beautiful, you're just shallow and sexist
I've gotten the donated version of bombas socks from the local food bank. They're great socks!
@tiffanyferg Are you planning on publishing a survey about the topic of public housing in the US?
I wish flippers focused on ensuring a livable house than aesthetically whitewashing houses. If I'm buying a house, I can handle the aesthetics myself. What I want is with safe wiring, and working amenities, and a bathroom that's actually equipped to handle water. Half the time though, they end up making it worse.
The liveability and safety costs too much money and time. It's easier to slap up new doors and tacky IG wallpaper.
Honestly, “a bathroom that’s actually equipped to handle water” is EXACTLY what we didn’t get in our own cheaply flipped house. We were first time buyers & absolute idiots😭
Me reading this while I have a landlord's special paint job chipping off in my bathroom. The joys of renting. I'm sure I'll get blamed and charged for that one. Despite the fact that they fixed nothing before I moved in from the last tenant--they didn't even clean it.
As someone who bought a 1930s cape, it makes me crazy when they complain about spending money to actually fix shit.
My house was structurally in great shape but the second thing we did (after cleaning the shit out of it including removing the carpet so old I could tear it with my hands) was rewire everything then insulated.
The only esthetic upgrades the first year was to paint every inch of the place that hadn't been painted in decades. And wet sand by hand then poly the wood floors. Next up all new cooper pipes plus a new toilet and vanity. Still have the original tub and tiles, thought.
After the exhausting first year, it was small project after small project including new roof one year and a new tree another. It was 10 years before I upgraded the still small kitchen.
It's never done but it is solid.
When i was looking at houses i loved all of them but they all had structural, electrical, water issues that would be way beyond my ability to do safely myself and would cost thousands to have done. I wish these issues are what flipping shows focused on, anyone can take out carpat and put in subway tile.
As someone who lived through almost the entire decade of the 90s, I can say that HGTV used to be awesome. Before flipping houses became all the rage, it had a lot of really enjoyable home improvement programs.
loooved watching this old house back in the day
Design on a Dime was my show.
Indeed. And they had a ton of great garden shows back then. There's really no G left anymore.
I never put together when I stopped enjoying HGTV - I grew up watching a lot of it, often as comforting background noise - but, yeah, it was 100% once the focus became flipping that I tuned out.
And they had great GARDEN programming! HGTV has totally dropped the GARDEN aspect of the channel.
It's interesting how "starting from a garage" is supposed to be a sign of bootstrapping it, but increasingly has become a sign of starting off with a bunch of inherited wealth.
Right? During that part I was thinking "okay, how'd you get the garage? Whose garage is it?"
Right? I sure don't have a garage!
You have to have money to have a garage
@@Grace-ms7unOr at least supportive family or friends with a garage who will let you use it.
Exactly😂😂😂
Me now, and also my parents grew up in Appartements, where seperate own garages like small houses are NOT a thing 😂
Thumbs up for admitting to repeatedly learning and forgetting fun facts.
Hahahaha this is exactly why I’m not as good at trivia as I think I should be
"Anyone is able to flip" is ruining so many homes and i hate HGTV for popularizing it. We're looking for a home right now and so many bad DIY jobs, faux tiles peeling off, a bad fresh coat of paint and new handles poorly applied to kitchens etc instead of addressing the actual foundational issues of the house, the cracks in the exterior and stuff that should've been fixed. One property had a lot of older features which is all good, but in the bathrooms they tried to fix an issue and instead sealed an area that should never have been which made the wall so wet it literally was able to bend, meaning many thousands needs to be spent on fixing it 🤦🏼♀️ I'm all for people making their house a home, i love people customizing stuff! But this flipping stuff? 🤢🤢🤢
i feel this so hard. my wife and i went through the same thing when we were looking for a house. i will never in my life take for granted the good fortune we had that family friends ended up offering us their son's old house to purchase. just knowing we were buying a home that had been well taken care of was absolutely huge
This is another layer to why homes are too expensive. Because you reach to the insane mortgage and that's only the start of your troubles. Property tax (goes up every year), utilities (nothing in the US is built to be efficient), then you get to the hidden issues like water damage, messed up foundation, and whatever fun DIY projects the last harebrain left for you to find. Houses need to drop in price by 50% to cover these contingencies. The current prices would be reflective of a perfect case scenario where everything was well maintained, but it wasn't. It never is. it's such a massive ripoff it's unbelievable. Even new homes have corner-cutting contractors leaving little presents for you to scream about and pay tens of thousands of dollars to fix in a few years.
You just described the house I'm renting. 😂 Slumlords are buying cheap homes and "flipping" them.
Going from a parrot bathroom to white tiles made me 🤢
It made me so sad! She said she wanted to keep with the Spanish style, but then did subway tiles?? If they absolutely had to remodel, they could have at least stuck to the original style. And done some color (personally, I'd focus on fixing structural issues and letting the new owners worry about cosmetic changes, but that would probably be boring TV)
@@rebeccat715 If I remember right every flip looked exactly the same when they were done.
@@rebeccat715 I have a guess, the Subway tiles were 100% the cheapest Option 😂
At some point, they had too much wishes versus budget....
But I agree, they could have LET THE TILES as they were and save money
When people say that a crisis is an “opportunity” omg those people have no soul. It just gives me raised hackles
It’s always the most “pious” people.
Vultures. Nah , thats an insult to vultures. The flippers are more like screwworm maggots.
Repeatedly learning and forgetting that the Property Brothers had wanted to be an actor and a magician is the most relatable thing in the universe.
Funnily enough, they did get a chance to act. There’s a show my mom is watching on Netflix called Girls 5eva, and the property brothers make an appearance in one of the episodes.
@@cassiec.4723and that arc of that season includes the main characters being signed to the Property Brothers’ record label. How’s that for a media empire?!
My mom and I watch a lot of HGTV, but we usually complain about the end results and how impractical the white sofa is for the family with kids or how hideous mom thinks the new design trend every show is doing is.
my mom learned the dangers of mixing white sofas and kids VERY swiftly. the smallest things will stain
I love watching with my Dad who’s been a house framer and contractor for decades. He’s always pointing out improperly installed doors and how unenthused the contractors on the shows always seem 🤣
I'm in the market for new living room furniture and it seems couches only come in cream and gray these days 🥲
omg yeah they NEVER think about practicality and it makes me so mad
another internet analysis?? what have we done to deserve such a gift
Thank you for calling Magnolia a cult!! I lived in Waco during when their show was a thing and they trashed the real estate market there and also made it hard to get around town on the weekends because of the tourists who descended on the Silos area. They didnt build parking or plan for infrastructure so it made it a pain to get to downtown from the univeristy or leave/get home to the apartments in that area. They were also part of the cult church in town lol (the town is run by both that church and also the baptist university).
Bro what is it with Waco and cults😭
@@Maialeen I dont know but it's like some sort of cult nexus. It's absolutely bonkers when you're not in one of the cults living there just going like "bro y'all are WEIRD"
I can somewhat imagine. It would just give me such an unsettling feeling. Like a perpetual twilight zone vibe.
Thank you for this comment! I’m from Austin and I was always so confused by Fixer Upper. I’m not too familiar with Waco, but my image of it was that there wasn’t a huge market for expensive upmarket properties? I thought it had a really high poverty rate. I was always so confused about who was buying these homes. It makes total sense that the show would end up throwing the local real estate market out of whack
@@mrggyi go to baylor and there is definitely a high rate of poverty!! but i think it’s also because i’ve noticed a lot of my friends family permanently moving to waco with them as well as at least the market near the campus is full of rentals and what not…i think another thing is the proximity to all major cities in texas!! it’s like 1 1/2-2 hours from dallas and austin as well as like 2-3 hours from san antonio and houston!! its very easy to also travel or any of those cities and still live in a smaller city with a good amount of things to do on its own!! i think it is also the faith aspect because a lot of people are called to serve in different areas and so ive seen a lot of people move to waco for a whatever period of time due to their faith. not sure if that helps idk too much about real estate and i’m not a wacoan so idk comparatively how much has changed but yeah!!
In my opinion the best shows on HGTV are the ones where they show a couple (who is clearly on their way toward a messy divorce) searching for a home to buy and complaining about literally every single individual detail of the home. I once saw an episode of House Hunters where the woman didn't want to buy a house because the walls were painted red. That was the only reason. And another episode where a man kept complaining about how the windows of every house they looked at made him feel like he was "on display to the whole neighborhood" and the realtor had to keep pointing out that he could literally just buy some curtains and that would fix his problem. That's the kind of quality content they need to be focusing on.
Reminds me of an episode I saw where the husband had really bad knees even after bilateral knee replacements so he physically could not use stairs without massive pain, but his wife was dead set on a multilevel house 💀
Tarek El Moussa was really like, "yes the 2008 crash hurt and traumatised my family financially, ... which is why I still have enough money to profit from it". A real American hero.
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My best friend lived in an apartment that was madeover for an HGTV reno show and it was an unmitigated disaster, like shitty paint jobs, constantly leaky shower and faucets, drafty windows kind of disaster. I had no idea about the lawsuits against these shows, but they 100% don't surprise me. Amazing vid as always!!!
Another show where it seems like they take their time and actually care about the craftsmanship is Rehab Addict! The host is a preservationist and presents herself as more interested in restoring homes to their original glory and less interested in profit. She was always railing against people who paint over wood trim and would try her best to remove the paint if possible.
Also, I always admired Mike Holmes' shows (he got a couple of spinoffs, but I think the original show was Holmes Inspection)- in later seasons he definitely leans into his TV personality, but he started his career as an actual contractor. In the show, he goes to the homes of people who have been scammed by other contractors and fixes their renovations. He would regularly go above and beyond what he originally was called in to fix, because often the source of an issue (leaks, mold, etc) would be much bigger than a simple patch job. He seems genuinely invested in helping these homeowners and was committed to "making it right" (his slogan on the show). Don't know if his shows aired on HGTV because he's based in Canada, but I highly recommend watching an episode or two! It's such a contrast to a lot of the flipping shows on HGTV.
That mansion she did was gorgeous!
Mike Holmes used to air on HGTV in the U.S. His old shows' reruns are on his YT channel now called HomefulTV.
Holmes on Homes was one of the later versions. I love Mike Holmes, and he's some nice understated eye candy too.
Nicole Curtis is my FAVE 🥰 also she's been teasing a new show or season on her IG 👀
Ugh I LOVED Nicole so much!!! Literally she has shaped me and my home taste so much. In a similar vein, the people that run the cheapoldhouses Instagram just had a season of a show air on HGTV that was very much in the same ethos as Nicole's show
Also thank you for pointing out how lame it was that they didnt go for the colorful parrot tiles because that two toned colorful tile is like SUCH a SoCal thing, its a charm point! So much better than bleh grey linoleum and white subway tile.
This is such a classic example of a hyper capitalist business model 1. Create a percieved problem - make people feel that their perfectly servicable interiors are unacceptable. 2. Sell solution. 3. Profit.
I have no issues providing nifty solutions for actual needs or issues. I love my diswasher and cordless vacuum. But man, when something totally normal like a lived-in house is framed as a problem. It really gets to me.
I live in Wetumpka, Alabama, where HGTV had their “Home Town Takeover” last year. Let me just say, once all the hype of the newly revitalized downtown area died down, everything went to shit. One of the main businesses that got a makeover aren’t even in business anymore and the community just isn’t coming together to support downtown businesses like they once were. It just sucks and was a total fail in my opinion.
Thanks for commenting because I was wondering about this after seeing the show. They seemed to be giving really bad business advice. In the one in Colorado I stopped watching because they did a makeover for a cafe in a very clearly low income town and a HGTV cooking show host came to help with the menu, but all she did was teach them how to make rosemary chocolate chip scones and then left.
Home renovations let you immerse yourself in a vicarious fantasy of upward socioeconomic mobility. Everyone on the shows has $150,000 in cash ready to spend, and they are ready to 2x that by investing it into a home that makes them incredibly happy. The contractors show up on time (which is often not what happens in real life), the materials used are wonderful (but still in budget), the work quality is apparently great, the show ends happily every time. The family is stronger at the end, more prosperous, and definitely happier than before. You get to critique their choices and think about what you would have done in their place, experiencing the renovation process vicariously through them even if you're one late paycheck from being on the streets the way millions of people are. They are like conventional murder mysteries where the social fabric of the community is torn but is always mended by the conclusion of each episode. It is no coincidence that home renovation and murder mystery shows are what I watch when I don't want to think about difficult things and I just want to relax.
Wow, that murder mystery analogy really spoke to me. Knowing people whose real lives were touched by murders, I've seen the in-your-face reality that murders tend to reflect (and then worsen) pre-existing tears in the community, and when the mending happens, it usually takes many years, if not generations. Not that I dislike all murder mysteries (or renovation shows), but that fictional aspect of quick and consistent success and closure is really there in both genres.
Wow this is a very interesting analogy
That's why I prefer the UK's "Grand Designs". The couple bites off more than they can chew, the weather plays havoc, everything is delayed, they're now living in a caravan next to the building site, the money is running out, oh and she's pregnant with their third kid - all while the presenter is often very critical of their ability to pull it off despite often liking the idea. Still, more often than not there's a happy end, and the most important part: the houses coming out of this are the opposite of the bland run-of-the-mill designs you see everywhere else.
i also have vivid memories of chip and joanna getting divorced!!!!! and no one knows what im talking about!! you are literally the first person i've heard of sharing this experience. i have such vivid memories of hearing that they got divorced a few years ago and being so sad bc they were the focus of my old HGTV obsession with my mom, but apparently they've never even been separated?? like i swear i remember hearing about them shading each other in the press too, it was crazy!!! im so glad im not alone!
I believe that they did and the church they belong to had them work things out and take a break from their show. I think they had lawyers scrub it from the internet.
I never even watched HGTV or their show and I *swear* they divorced as well!
Like I vividly remember it getting super bitter too 👀
There was DEFINITELY buzz on the internet about their marriage being in trouble! I have a clear memory of seeing crap on Facebook about it.
No ur right cuz I remember seeing those magazines/tabloid papers at the supermarket one day AND IT WAS A BIG HEADLINE ON IT! Me and my mom even talked about it together too so I definitely remember news reporting on this
i, too, will throw my hat in the ring saying i recall hearing that back in the day
In Canada, one of these TV personalities built a housing development called "Holmes Approved Homes" and the work was so bad that brand new houses were condemned and bulldozed.
Ah, Holmes. Truly the Doug Ford of the HGTV extended universe.
Just seeing the Flip or Flop people's faces still fills me with irritation. When I had cable I hate watched that show probably more than I should have- even now, when I haven't seen it in years, a commercial with Kristina came on while my dad and I were watching tv and my dad made a comment "yeah, your mom hates this lady- I have no idea who she is but apparently she used to be on an HGTV show?" and I realized who it was and I immediately just like "UGH, okay so she and her then-husband who has the personality of a dead fish had a home flipping show and mom and I were actively rooting for them to fail."
I remember watching that show wondering how some people could be so insensitive, while having such bad taste. I also remember that scene where they're talking about the credit cards. I also remember them very briefly mentioning something about a loan from one of their parents in an episode. They're not as self-made as they let on.
Watching these shows being from a lower middle class (and sometimes broke) living in a small mining city in South America and having no context was absolutely bizarre. The money amount, the sizes of these houses, etc, was so impossible to imagine for me, these shows felt like a fever dream.
HGTV has ruined the design business. Made everyone have unrealistic expectations in terms of timelines and budgets. I spend half of my day explaining how the process works I’m real life.
Oh man the show The Curse is the best satire of HGTV
yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss
Just watched the trailer, I have to see this. "My homes are reflecting the local community" while showing a fully mirror-finished glass cube house 😂
I remember an early episode of Flip or Flop where they wanted to get rid of a pool because it would be too expensive to fix. Which would have been fine, but they just kind of tried to fill it by throwing random junk into it, until an inspector came by and had to inform them that what they were doing was both dangerous and very illegal.
That's an old trick!!! My grandma and dad did this to one house they lived in during the 60's. To say I was quietly outraged is an understatement.
The property brother having his magician stuff stolen and filing for bankruptcy is so Arrested Development, I love it
I’m pretty sure Tarek is one of those “self-made” millionaires that forgets that his dad has money that could rescue him if he got in trouble.
My cousin was on one of these shows. HgTV renovated their living room and they threw a barn door up wrong. The week after they left, the door fell on my baby cousins face and she required a whole facial reconstruction surgery. They did a shit job and it cost my cousin and her husband a lot of money. It was sad for my cousin cause they were scouted outside of homedepot. They didn't apply for HGTV to come and wreck their home.
jesus christ did they talk to a lawyer about getting the medical bills paid?
That's terrible. Hope the baby was able to recover
I think I started my HGTV watching with Flip or Flop, but over time I got tired of Tarek and Christina's sensibilities and bickering. Not surprised to learn Tarek has gotten asuperiority complex from his TV show empire.
The one show I do still appreciate is Bargain Block, which takes place in Detroit and has a big focus on dilapidated and "land banked" homes, and often the finished homes get bought by locals who are excited to see reinvestment in their communities. It definitely feels a little more real than the shows where everything is outsourced to contractor teams that get reduced to timeframes in the finished product.
Hearing about how all those "opportunities" for Flip or Flop came about, I don't think I can ever watch that show again.
Here on CZcams, there’s a channel called The Second Empire Strikes Back who has been restoring an older house for 100+ episodes (and isn’t done yet!) - as someone who grew tired of both the lack of ethics in flipping and the greige sameness of every single home flipped, it’s really nice seeing the years-long restoration born of love and respect. The guy who runs it learns techniques and researches a whole lot during, which is really refreshing.
Thanks for the recommendation! I'm not familiar with that channel. We bought an older home that was trashed. It's going to be at least 100+ episodes before we're done. It takes time and skill acquisition to do it right. Weekend flips are not a thing.
House Hunters International is always so funny to watch because the real estate agent is always so annoyed with the unrealistic expectations of the people hunting.
Because they have unrealistic expectations, probably from watching HGTV
ur videos make my days easier. i struggle with depression and moved cities for college 9 months ago and since then ive been much worse than usual.
when u upload internet analysis, i listen to it while doing everyday tasks like cleaning or other chores and life becomes easier for a few moments :)
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one more thing, i think its so cool that ure gonna be a mom! hope pregnancy is going okay.
sending you love!! 💛💛💛
i get it. i also had a very hard time after moving cities for college, so much so that in the end i went back to my home city and switched colleges. and actually my life got a lot better and i dont regret it at all! starting college in a far away city is soo much harder and lonelier than youd expect. but i hope things get easier for you soon!
@@zetmarple yeah! people makw it seem like such a casual thing but moving out rips ur life apart in a way
its good to kniw that im not alone, im glad u made a good decision for yourself :)
movimg away from home can definitely be pretty lonely. I hope you can meet some people around you that make you feel supported and dont be too afraid to reach out to people you know even if they are far away. most people are kind and want to help. wishing you well ❤
@@tiniestmonkey youre very kind thank you for the well wishes! thankfully, my gurlfriend is in the same city as me and she supports me when i need it. i do get lonely, as my best friends stayed home, but things are better with her around :)
I think another challenge to HGTV currently is the number of CZcams channels dedicated to home renovation or makeovers. I think they feel a lot more realistic, with many focusing on apartment living.
While I don’t ethically agree with flipping, I have to admit that “Flipping Vegas” was a guilty pleasure of mine. The wife was a gem. She has a very gaudy aesthetic and would put obscenely expensive finishes in Vegas houses that were only going to be sold for $200-300k.
The gold grout!!
Is this a green screen background? I genuinely can't tell. 😅
would like to know as well
i think it is, the far left of the screen has like wrinkles in the window frames
I would also like to know, pretty sure the lighting looks off, she's well lit but the shadows are kinda dark behind her....but is that a dog behind her??
Definitely is green screen, lighting doesn’t match foreground and background
@hpvamp246 ok thanks! I knew it didn't look quite right...the trees never moved. Lol
im very embarrassed to admit it took me almost a minute to figure out that those were not real windows behind you. oh my god.
If it makes you feel better, I didn’t notice until I read this comment 🤷
As an Indianapolis area resident…. What “Good Bones” did to our area is so messed up. While yes they fixed up extremely run down houses, they did so in such a huge mass that whole area of previously affordable housing was gentrified. They both own multiple companies that was flipping houses beyond the show. Also their store was just closed and moved to way more affluent neighborhood because the only ppl going to their store way rich fans from out of town. They moved this year because the show stopped & the fans stopped coming.
I was going to mention that show if no one else did. I initially enjoyed the makeovers and the mother/daughter dynamic, but that show quickly made me feel icky and pissed me off.
I haven't even seen that much of "Flip or Flop". But the amount of times Tarek would admit ON CAMERA that he had cut a corner on construction quality and Christina would have to be like "UM ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T DO THAT" was fucking hilarious. Not to mention the amount of times they called Tarek's dad to front them huge amounts of money when they encountered an unexpected expense.
As an Arab we do not claim Tarek El Moussa
@@kb_100haha agreed
I had a neighbor buy a house and because of she scope of work, feared he was a flipper.
Plot twist! Hes a public defender who bought a house that was borderline condemned and is a really nice guy.
The subway tile/ parrot design choice is a great microcosm for why flipping “culture” is problematic. Nowadays, a lot of people make design choices for their home with the direct intention of making it appealing for a future buyer. This is more understandable in the flipping context, but many people buy a house and ultimately end up living in it for years before actually selling. This results in a significant period of your life basically not living in your own “home” but instead an idealized showroom for future strangers, purely for the purpose of money. It’s really strange if you think about it
If you buy a property you know you'll outgrow. Then it's good to be mindful of the inevitable resale process.
If, say, you're redoing a bathroom and paying $15,000. It's prudent to try to at least recoup that money when it comes time to sell. And not go too niche with the design choices. Which can hurt the value but also make your house take longer to sell.
However the problem is taking this too far and doing everything as generically as possible.
Also this should not be your mentality in a home you think you'll stay in for the rest of your life.
I gut and redid my main bathroom and I did use subway tile (which I love) but I put in 2 sinks (his and hers) and I knew at the time I would hate it, but it was better for resale. I have lived here since 2010, and wished that that space was just counter space and not a second sink every day
When I was in third grade I had subscriptions to This Old Home, Better Home & Gardens, and HGTV magazines because I loved home renovation. As an adult when I finally got cable I loved watching home reno shows but I quickly realized the amount of waste, the staging, and the just in general how bad many of these shows actually were.
Okay, I'm glad I wasn't the only child really into This Old Home. I used to watch it every weekend lol
@@RosaHernandez-uw2uloh after my cartoon binge and doing chores I watched Tom and Kevin for hours on this Old Home. I really appreciate my mom allowing my indulgences 😂 I can’t fix a thing but when something is broken I usually know about what issue and my design eye I think is pretty great lol
@@RosaHernandez-uw2ulI am older and This Old House was my jam as a kid in the 80s! Bob Villa was the best!
Oh man I loved Bob villa on this old house!
my favourite British home renovation show is "sort your life out" where basically a team of experts (on cleaning, organisation, building work etc.) and they help a family declutter their home and make the house up for them. it's such a wholesome and sweet show as it is mainly helping low income families, single parents, people who struggle with hoarding etc. and the host Stacey Solomon is the sweetest angel ♡
As someone who forgets things easily, you really do learn something new every day…. Whether it sticks is a completely different story.
It's been a while since I watched Houses with History, but I remember liking it--with the unique details of the interesting qualities relating to the history of the homes and architecture (Bricks that were used during the time based on stampings and how thick the floor planks could be via British Crown)--making some of the other HGTV shows feel soulless. While watching, I remember wishing that instead of the 25 gut job, reno shows to create the same version of the house, there could be more like that as they seemed to take so much care into the house and community history around them.
I remember watching some shows, maybe the Windy City one, and a family member mentioned the horrible quality of some of the HGTV as she thought it might have been that one, and I thought no way as it seemed to have so much thought and care... We ended up looking it up, and while I don't remember anything about Windy City Rehab, the plethora of complaints about other shows was eye opening
I lived in Waco & worked at Magnolia Market as a cashier and the blatant gentrification in the area was actually insane to watch in real time from when I first came to Baylor University in 2018 and left in 2021 I’m so excited to watch this and see your takes about this
May I add now I’ve gotten to this part of the video: the amount of people that would still ask about the Branch Davidians as I checked them out was overwhelming LMAO
I remember at one point there was a HGTV show about restoring old Chicago homes and I always liked that one. The host would point out a unique architectural feature of traditional Chicago homes and focus on the best way to renovate without removing those unique features.
I remember that one! I also liked that one. They tried to save as many of the original features as they could.
@@faeriesmak a rare gem amongst the HGTV reno-trash
@@marymillette6595 I loved that one. It made me feel less bad about having a bunch of interesting features and outdated, imperfect things in our 1883 farmhouse.
This shade of minty green is very pretty on you! ❤hope you and baby are feeling great
HGTV is truly a guilty pleasure
4:39 - As someone who lives in Waco & has for YEARS, I firmly believe that Chip and Jo heavily contributed to the Air B&B / Flipping culture around here. Downtown Waco is/has been getting gentrified. While I'm thankful that our cultural scene is getting stronger, with more things to do and different varieties of cuisine + local small businesses getting attention, it still causes a lot of problems. We have a lot of tourists that come in to visit Magnolia market which gummed up traffic for a while (particularly when combined with Baylor games) so our main highway near Baylor's stadium got expanded during/before the pandemic to add more lanes and it wasn't finished for a long time so there were just these massive piles of dirt everywhere. Large parts of downtown are also a concrete landscape of tons of parking lots. (And nowhere except downtown is even remotely walkable either). It's just...It's a mess and Chip/Jo are kind of the posterchild of the mess. No local I know actually likes them or their $8 cupcakes.
oh my GOD the Hearth & Hand stuff being perpetually in 2016 makes soooo much sense now, I thought it was Targets own chronic-millennial thing 😭
Side note about your sponsors, I work in social services and our local shower truck provides Bombas to the people who utilize it. It made me smile that you get to work for them! A genuinely good company doing genuinely good work.
Wow how crazy I’m from south OC as well and we lost our home during 2008 … it’s truly sad because that house is now worth 3x the amount and I miss it so dearly
"I started from zero in this garage." Bro, if you have a garage, you're not at zero. 😂
It was his mum's garage. However, the humble bragging came across as fake.
@@eattherich9215 I figured as much. I guess when I think of having "nothing," I think of people who are orphans living on the street. Even having a parent who has a garage is an advantage over a good portion of the population. I guess I'm just tired of the bootstap narrative that so many of these guys try to feed us. Every successful person has some degree of help, usually from many people.
Property brothers, also known as, the show they played in my therapist's waiting area
…and my kids psych waiting room
and my moms hormone doctor office!! not sure what her title actually was but she used to get these injections for something i forgot what and i would go with her when i was little and that was always on!! i was there for the snacks in her waiting room area but watched the show since not much else was there 😹😹
😂 yep
Tiff I want to take a min to acknowledge how you consistently stay giving us premium content for years now. Thank you for putting so much love into what you do and for using your voice for things that matter.
I like Rehab Addict, she also appreciates the cool details of historic houses. And she’s always on the frontline of the renovations.
Your video came just in time for me (I needed a break from my interview practice bc I was stressing out about it)! Loved it as usual!!
As a Architecture student I find HGTV hilarious, Basically they just knock out a wall to open the kitchen to the living room and add an island with a farm sink, paint everything white and gray then play it off as a modern masterpiece.
I love the background, I was concentrating on the video topic so it took me a minute to see that the leaves were not in fact moving
just realized the two from love it or list it look just like benson and stabler from law and order svu 😭😭😭
One show on HGTV I have a soft spot for is Hometown. The couple live in the town they do the renovations for, and genuinely seem to keep the house’s og charm. They also have taken on projects for the community, creating community spaces!
i love watching Hometown with my mom!!!
HGTV fan for the most part but I can't stomach Tarek and Christina. Both of them are so pretentious and obnoxious 😅
One of the earliest ones I remember was a show called Colour Confidential. It was from the 2000s but still had that wholesome 90s home improvement vibe and it was basically this nice lady teaching people not to be afraid of using colour. I was obsessed because I hated my sad beige home 😂
Oh we had better homes and gardens in the 90s and it was all about improving your HOME.
Not flipping houses.
By the 2000s you see shows like "the block" about doing up apartments to make a profit.
In Australia at least
I seriously miss the garden part of HGTV. The whole house flipping stuff is such a pain in the ass. I lived it in 17 different homes as a kid. I swear my parents should have been on a TV show because they could not live in a house they completely gutted. As an adult I appreciate the skills I learned like flooring and drywall. But honestly I have absolutely no ambition to live that life again.
Nope I’m one of those extreme Gardner types.
Highly recommend Your Garden Made Perfect! British show with tons of great gardening tips and insane builds
One show I really like is Home Town. They seem to really care about their clients and don't rush their renos. My bf and I bought a house a few years ago and I think a lot of our issues with it is bc of the diy aspect of some of these shows lol
I wonder what Tiffany would think of selling sunset😂
Hahaha I’ve seen every episode! (of Sunset and OC lmao) maybe someday I’ll make a video on it all
I loved watching Rehab Addict, It really felt like the opposite of a lot of HGTV shows. Their goal is to restore historical homes and sell them at market value instead of ridiculously inflated prices. I especially loved the episodes where they were restoring Victorian houses and tried to keep every inch of character possible.
the British version of Love it or List it is so much better
Kirstie and Phil are way better because 1) they are actual professionals ( real estate agent and general surveyor, respectively) and genuinely care about the people on the show.
Another one? Yay! Thank you so much, I looove your videos 🙏🏽✨️🤍
I've only known "HGTV" from the game House Flipper, it's a DLC for it. Nice to learn more! The American obsession with houses and being houseowners always fascinated me.
My whole channel is about slowly and sustainably restoring an old Victorian duplex that was about to be torn down, and the number of people that complain about how slow it's going is WILD. We're doing this ourselves, on our own dime, and trying to restore and salvage rather than tear down original features and slap some drywall over it.... and yet some viewers (HGTV fans, perhaps) seem to expect that we'll be tackling a new room every week. Umm, sorry to break it to you, but that's not how real timelines work. There are no minions waiting off screen to jump in and help us, or runners to go get everything we need from the hardware store!
(not to mention it was originally constructed as a duplex, converted into a single family home somewhere in the past few decades, and we're turning it back into a duplex in a city that has a marked rental housing shortage, and the # of people who complained or insisted that we keep the entire, GIANT duplex for ourselves (two adults, one tiny dog, no kids) was so surprising to me. What on Earth would I do with all this house? I'm restoring it to the way it used to be, remaining true to it's history AND helping to ease the rental shortage even in the tiniest extent... why is this a bad thing? 😭😭
I have such a love hate relationship with HGTV. If you ever want to get really down and dirty with a particularly awful production I suggestive Renovation Island where a truly awful couple work to renovate an island resort in the Caribbeans. Some truly spectacularly awkward tv when they interact with locals. I’ve been wanting a CZcamsr to cover it for forever
wait two videos in a week is crazy omg
It’s so relatable that you have learned, forgotten and relearned and reforgotten about the Property Brothers.
🌟✨I used to love HGTV back in the Candice Olson's Divine Design, and Design On A Dime (with Lee, Summer, and Charles) days. There was also a show where the hosts would just come in and rearrange the homeowner's already existing furniture, taking pieces from different parts of the house to bring into whatever room they were rearranging, to show the homeowner the design potential of their furniture, it was brilliant! There was another show where different experts came in (depending on where in the US, or Canada they were that week) and just helped people better organize and utilize the space in their small apartments and houses. I loved those days of HGTV.""✨🌟
I LOVED Decorating Cents and the other smaller interior design shows on HGTV. I’ve always been obsessed with interior design and I miss those shows. Everything now is so boring - I don’t want to see total renovations that most ppl can’t afford, just ways to make your space work for you.
My uncle was a guest on these shows a few times (he’s artcitect/interior designer) and he said they really ask that he drums up the drama when he can. Basically you make problems out of nothing.
As a person who lived in an actual early 1900's farmhouse as a kid, it was really interesting to watch the farmhouse craze sweep through the real estate industry the last several years.
My farmhouse was built in 1883 and has most of its original features left. Let me tell you…we don’t have ship lap walls or barn doors. 😅
@@faeriesmak 100%
I grew up in an 1890s farmhouse! I didn't fully understand the hate for (modern) farmhouse style until we started trying to buy. Then I saw the overwhelming greige and lack of wood-colored wood. Such a huge disconnect at what my childhood home looked like! It makes me sad that a very "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and "repair old stuff until you literally can't" lifestyle was aesthetic-icized and turned into an excuse to buy cheap crap that isn't even in most traditional farmhouse style houses.
@@rebeccat715 I do admit that I would love one of those large Farmhouse style sinks...just because they are large and look really useful. But yes. Old houses and their features were actually designed to be repaired over and over and over again. We don't really change anything unless we REALLY HAVE TO. Plus..it is expensive and who has that kind of money?
@@faeriesmak My mom really wants a farmhouse sink! (she still lives in my childhood home) I agree that they can look really nice and seem very practical
I personally think elements of modern farmhouse *can* look okay, but the whole HGTV look together has no warmth. For example, as a farming state in the US, reclaimed wood is everywhere in my area. Even the kitschiest thing made from local reclaimed wood in the bougiest house just feels way better than equivalent corporate products-- it's a way to salvage some of our history. It would be cool if instead of promoting uniform aesthetics and starting new home decor lines, HGTV's content promoted differences in locale, things like how to work with your local climate, featured local people who do good work that also looks cute, etc
omg this entire video i thought the background was real
my new house 💛 built it myself 🏡
Tiffany, I love your topics!! Your videos make me use my brain in more ways than just ‘passively consuming’. You keep me thinking, which I appreciate :) I’ve admired your work for years and just wanted to let you know I think you’re awesome!! I never miss a video! ❤❤❤
you're forgetting that jd, the eldest pro bro, looks like he fronts a band called my chemical panic at the fall out confessional. you've got finance (6'5", blue eyes), tractor, and black nail polish boyfriends all in one family. also if you want to see drew scott's big break in the acting world, watch drew gooden's video about lucas grabeel's weird ninja movie
HGTV is always playing when I go to the salon for a pedicure, I was watching the montage of a family who just moved into the tiny home the show made for them, and the mom was cooking breakfast on a gas range WITHOUT A FUME HOOD. I wouldnt dare trust one of these shows to make a safe house to live in.
my mom & i have been watching HGTV since the 90s and i’m from Raleigh, NC which is now the home of many HGTV shows, mainly Love It or List It. when I was doing my PhD at Duke, i met many people who worked for the show or were consulted for it (including my interior designer cousin) but couldn’t say outright due to NDAs but it was all very clear. HGTV has even had a few of their Dream Home sweepstakes in Raleigh a few times. if you’re aware of the Triangle, it’s gone through a huge boom since the 2010s, especially in the last five years due to Apple and Microsoft announcing hubs in the area and it has led to intense gentrification of Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill and surrounding cities and towns and you can see HGTV’s effect EVERYWHERE. the network saw the writing on the wall when they set up shop here & it’s been miserable
also, the Actors strike of 2007-2008 was a huge contributor to reality TV becoming as big as it currently is, especially because they didn't have to pay people all that much to follow them around for life snippets
also also, that Fixer Upper comment on them making barn modern chic popular, England is 70% those types of houses and exposed beams lol England has a lot of historical buildings, and it's a specific lack of that level of building history for the USA
I love these shows. Also they have a show because they are talented in PR and that is lucky for them. They are making a profit off of it. The shows give me ideas how I want to improve my own home and flips. Gentrification happens. Just because you are poor doesn't mean you cannot make improvements on your home a little at a time. Gentrification is an excuse to not care about your property in my opinion. I have seen poor people take great pride in their homes. It sucks when people just trash their space and boo hoo that someone is going to fix up a house in the poor neighborhood.
I really used to love HGTV when it was about decorating on a budget or making your rental seem more like home. Most of my 20s & 30s were taken up by making my small shitty apartment seem cozy because I was able to decorate it with the tips I got from HGTV. My favorite shows were Decorating Cents - they would decorate with a $500 budget, Tresure Makers - they would make decor items with things found in hardware stores or thrift shops (I still have a trough reindeer for Christmas that I made), and design on a dime - decorating with a budget of $1000.00. Come to think of it, now I watch CZcams videos that are like that, I guess that’s why I don't watch HGTV anymore. I've always hated the "flipper" shows or the "major reno" shows, because, if you didn't own your home, it was worthless, and even if you did own your home, if you didn't have the massive budget to renovate it, it was also worthless and made it seem unachievable to make the home you lived in be beautiful.
OMG Tiffany please tell me you were in fact able to avoid spoilers for the finale of “The Curse”… because going into it not knowing anything about it is definitely the absolute best way to experience it.
We bought and moved into a house a few years ago. After moving in we realized that the house was a flip and needed a lot of work considering the price we paid. It was our first house we didnt know. Some things were pure laziness like when they painted the kitchen, they didn't pull the appliances out and painted around them 😢. Instead of replacing the outlets for white ones, they painted them. There was a ton of other things. 🤦♀️ it was very disheartening
Favorite show ever…Restored. It’s so amazing! He goes and restores homes to their original glory just like the Houses with History show does. They are my favorite type of shows. So full of history and care to restore these historic homes. I can’t watch any other renovation show now because of Restored. It’s just not the same and generic compared to what he does. I believe it used to be on DIY Network but I just stream the episodes and I believe it was picked up by Magnola Network.
Restored is my favorite too! I was hoping someone would mention it in the comments. Brett doesn't just have charisma but actual knowledge and clear care for regional architecture and community history. I love how every episode includes archival research to learn more about the house and the design style. I think another thing that distinguishes it from many of these hgtv reno shows is that many of the homeowners have lived in the house years, sometimes decades. These are their HOMES, not just houses that represent a profit or 'investment' opportunity.
Oh! Is that the cowboy guy from California? I loved his show. It was so informative.
Even if I tried to spoil you for The Curse, I’m not sure that I could. There are simply no words for what you are about to see. (I loved that show so much!)
Those windows and that view behind you are gorgeous! I couldn't stop staring at that beautiful tree 🧡
I'm so glad the shirt was part of the video because I would've had to roast you for the Rae Dunn lol
Y'know the classic saying, money can't buy you taste. 💀
I used to be obsessed with Flip or Flop when I was younger, before I knew better. I’m from Santa Ana. It was “cool” to know exactly where they were doing their work.
YOU HAVE TO FINISH THE CURSE. Man I am considering becoming a commentary CZcamsr just due to how many thoughts that show left me with. Very, very well done.
And I loved the video. Excellent as always.
Thank you!! And yes you’re right… maybe tonight is the night! I think I only have an episode or two left
@@tiffanyfergAre you planning on publishing a survey about the topic of public housing in the US?
I like the Two Chicks and a Hammer ladies on Good Bones in Indiana. Bc the houses they usually pick would otherwise be torn down, they're reinvesting in neighborhoods whose property values are being dragged down, and the Home Town in Mississippi which are trying to revive their community, and the homes are often mid century builds, or at least 45 yo.
Love the upgrade in background, very fitting to the flipping theme (that bedroom looks dreamy to me!)