Evolution of COPS LOGIC in MAFIA games (2002-2020)

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  • I present you the Evolution of COPS (police) LOGIC in MAFIA games (2002-2020). The cops logic has had an interesting evolution from Mafia (2002) to Mafia: Definitive Edition (2020). Let's see how they evolved across the games!
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    ash - Some police lines transcription
    0:00 Introduction
    0:10 1 star: Mafia
    0:49 1 star: Mafia II
    2:56 1 star: Mafia III
    3:37 1 star: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    4:27 2 stars: Mafia
    5:03 2 stars: Mafia II
    5:56 2 stars: Mafia III
    6:25 2 stars: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    6:53 3 stars: Mafia
    7:51 3 stars: Mafia II
    8:40 3 stars: Mafia III
    9:22 3 stars: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    10:14 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia
    11:34 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia II
    12:32 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia III
    13:52 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    14:52 Foot pursuit: Mafia
    15:42 Foot pursuit: Mafia II
    16:25 Foot pursuit: Mafia III
    16:58 Foot pursuit: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    17:56 Police roadblock: Mafia
    18:18 Police roadblock: Mafia II
    18:53 Police roadblock: Mafia III
    19:27 Police roadblock: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    20:04 Combat: Mafia
    21:30 Combat: Mafia II
    22:09 Combat: Mafia III
    23:31 Combat: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    25:02 NPC combat: Mafia
    25:44 NPC combat: Mafia II
    27:25 NPC combat: Mafia III
    28:50 NPC combat: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    29:12 Miscellaneous
    35:00 Conclusion
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Komentáře • 174

  • @laur6405
    @laur6405 Před rokem +52

    Mafia 3 developers be like: eh,we can't bother with the police,we'll just say they're racist af and that's it😂

    • @chickenchan9295
      @chickenchan9295 Před 7 měsíci +2

      But it makes sence by the time period the game takes place

    • @redcobra7707
      @redcobra7707 Před 5 měsíci +2

      It is realistic tho, atleast back then

    • @goap690
      @goap690 Před 5 měsíci +2

      they just didnt bring any AI. evolution is not a proper word.
      Thats why npc vs npc without any involved of player deal NO any damage to each others. Why late 00s games on consoles become press x movies. worse than Call of Duty. More like... a bitt earlier game... Starship Troopers... on PC... khm. So actually PC game start it all.
      Wh40k Space Marine use better system. NPC didnt do anything if you do abandon fight scene to lurk some corners for goodies. NPC wont kill NPC. Allies didnt do many damage when you do. But still they did some damage in combat when you stay and watch.
      And no. Mafia 3 use another system. In space Marine you can take cover and NPC will kill each others. In mafia 3 actually they didnt do damage. Relic dev chose stick it to your POV camera. They chose to hide scripts.
      All nowadays shooter or actions that called platformers - Sony games first of - NPC do nothing. And even your shots do nothing. Its not calculate directly. It is not Call of Duty 1-2 or Starship Troopers. If you pay attention you will notice that.
      Mafia 3 they said. Nah. Devs want make GTA SA plot game, bad plot game (unlike GTASA). Not Mafia. Rockstar did great game. 2ks noname studio didnt want make good game. Mafia 1+2 been even more tech and AI detailed than GTA. Mafia 3 no more Mafia - plot and gameplay.
      And someone call it realistic... I already saw serious comments in Discord about realism in Mafia 3. Even GTA5 cops are better developed.

    • @goap690
      @goap690 Před 5 měsíci

      oh and what they did with Mafia 1 in DE... ppl who cant make AL and gameplay screw plot too, again. Already exist plot. Realism and logic are raritet this days.

  • @folegionnaire4404
    @folegionnaire4404 Před 3 lety +62

    14:08 they even turn their light on in the tunnel amazing

  • @bradleypelkey4597
    @bradleypelkey4597 Před 2 lety +15

    15:24 the crickets outside my window when I'm tryin to sleep

  • @DurangoCzechoslovakia
    @DurangoCzechoslovakia Před 3 lety +79

    25:50 Hitler,is that you?

  • @MichaelJ44
    @MichaelJ44 Před 3 lety +87

    You’re videos are great. No intro, straight to the point, no loud music, no excessive gameplay. Just a detailed video about what your title is about. They don’t make em like this anymore

    • @X11H
      @X11H Před 3 lety +6

      That's the point, they never made them like this before. This man is the best.

    • @TobbeStorm
      @TobbeStorm Před rokem

      Nop you don't get corned beef like that anymore. Whatever happened to that deli?

  • @Dewhursm
    @Dewhursm Před 2 lety +10

    24:12 that sound like heavy voice lol

  • @Ealdorman_of_Mercia
    @Ealdorman_of_Mercia Před 3 lety +39

    27:09 ok this is the most realistic cop behaviour I have ever seen.

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x Před 2 lety +36

    Mafia 1's police system was the hardest to escape, like after they'd call all stations and the whole department starting coming after you you were basically fucked, unless you had a really good car they'd be faster than you, they'd have shotguns and tommy guns instead of pistols and they'd have road blocks everywhere and since the cars are heavy as fuck in this game it was hard breaking through it
    they'd literally come up to you while chasing you and shoot you with a shot gun in the face

    • @nicholasnguyen5181
      @nicholasnguyen5181 Před rokem

      The definitive edition of mafia 1 was brutal… . Literally got swarmed with cops because I wasn’t surrendering

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x Před rokem +2

      @@nicholasnguyen5181 the original Mafia 1 is even more brutal
      in DE cars are much faster, handle better and accelerate faster, so you can escape them, also I'm not sure if they shoot with Shotguns and Tommyguns in DE, I don't remember.

    • @nicholasnguyen5181
      @nicholasnguyen5181 Před rokem

      @@Ar1AnX1x I remember that they had bolt action rifles too… . They really hit hard

    • @i_love_games110
      @i_love_games110 Před 2 měsíci

      in mafia de it gets to that level at wanted 4 and even worse at wanted 5, and since ramming them damn near fucking kills you every time it's not very advised

  • @not_noice
    @not_noice Před 3 lety +20

    Mafia 3 cops logic : *(Literally like GTA 5)*
    Mafia 1 (original and remake) cops logic : *(Also literally like GTA 4 but better)*

    • @user-lm6qm1pi1u
      @user-lm6qm1pi1u Před 2 lety +10

      Mafia 3 cops are more like GTA Online cops, the latter never arrest anyone as well.

    • @erwinrommy1940
      @erwinrommy1940 Před 10 měsíci

      You guys wrong
      Mafia 3 set in 60s
      Which mean
      The Year american Still racist
      Police would Rather Kill Any Bl*ck people on that year

  • @mckensyq
    @mckensyq Před 3 lety +29

    Mafia 3 : black man simulation

  • @AndresMartinez-bn2qj
    @AndresMartinez-bn2qj Před 3 lety +17

    27:16 Damn!

  • @Arkiasis
    @Arkiasis Před 3 lety +54

    I really wanna see you do a video on Cyberpunk's police. I swear, it's the worst mechanics I've ever seen ever.
    There are NO police chases. They SPAWN behind you instantly and keep spawning until you leave the area. Once you're like 50m away from the area you lose them.
    It's bad... very very bad.

    • @bruhman-gc3ph
      @bruhman-gc3ph Před rokem

      once you go in stores they get stage 5 dementia they use excessive force everytime,no police helicopters and extremely glitched out

  • @juninhojr2177
    @juninhojr2177 Před 3 lety +13

    another impeccable job your videos are fantastic and you bring the smallest details to each explanation and impressive how much you dedicate yourself to explaining these systems a video that i would recommend you to make would be the gta sa wanted system.

  • @Saerkal
    @Saerkal Před 3 lety +28

    You should do Watch Dogs Legion next for a police analysis.
    Or Just Cause, Bully, or Sleeping Dogs

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway Před 3 lety +2

      Watch Dogs' police seems to be as bad if not even worse than Mafia 3.

    • @Saerkal
      @Saerkal Před 3 lety +1

      @@susangoaway they skimped on a lot, lol. Great game but not awesome.

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway Před 3 lety

      @@Saerkal I wouldn't call it great.

    • @thegoat6656
      @thegoat6656 Před 3 lety +1

      @@susangoaway I completely disagree its on par with GTA 5

    • @dacody2342
      @dacody2342 Před 3 lety +1

      @@thegoat6656 gta v police is bad too lol the chances of them arresting you are slim and if you stand near them too long they point guns at you :/

  • @crzymktrdrebel
    @crzymktrdrebel Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you for making great videos.

  • @iliesahmed6730
    @iliesahmed6730 Před 3 lety +2

    best video on mafia games !

  • @juanwhick1691
    @juanwhick1691 Před 7 měsíci

    I gotta say I like how far we have come with vehicles in games. From barely any sound. To adding start sounds and running sound. And even the cooldown tick lol. The little things are what amaze me the most.

  • @felixc.3444
    @felixc.3444 Před 3 lety

    Good work friend

  • @francocano6728
    @francocano6728 Před 2 lety +3

    26:56 Capt. Price

  • @NewWindsorPD
    @NewWindsorPD Před 3 lety +14

    For one star in Mafia: Definitive Edition I've had cops park behind me.

  • @ubilambda
    @ubilambda Před 3 lety +10

    16:11 No more donuts for you! Great work as always!

  • @florynMbolielegends
    @florynMbolielegends Před 3 lety +8

    This is how GTA needs to be 4:54 & 0:46

  • @maxicanweed7989
    @maxicanweed7989 Před 2 lety +9

    19:42 how you got this car?!!!

  • @cowerdnerddespacito9518
    @cowerdnerddespacito9518 Před 3 lety +19

    Mafia 1 probably has the best pit maneuvers ever

  • @Noxiousferret47
    @Noxiousferret47 Před 3 lety +4

    You should try and make an analysis for watchdogs legion

  • @johnsondemon6073
    @johnsondemon6073 Před 2 lety +8

    Mafia 3:If He's Black He better be Dead.

  • @nicholasnguyen5181
    @nicholasnguyen5181 Před rokem +3

    I just love that even the npcs can bribe cops to not arrest them XD

  • @shahxad6533
    @shahxad6533 Před 2 lety +1

    Legendary series for wise men

  • @N1ghtwalk3r
    @N1ghtwalk3r Před měsícem +1

    25:55 That dude probably got rejected from art school fr

  • @stepsis8437
    @stepsis8437 Před rokem +3

    Mafia 2 needs a remake like Mafia 1 got ❤️
    Even though the game is already perfect I'm talking about graphics

  • @nassirhussain9962
    @nassirhussain9962 Před rokem

    Yes

  • @bulgarianreaper6587
    @bulgarianreaper6587 Před 3 lety +2

    I wonder if you'll do other games, not just mafia and driver.

  • @airpatrol21
    @airpatrol21 Před 3 lety +1

    Would you consider doing a fire/EMS logic in games ?

  • @cgseicc
    @cgseicc Před 2 lety

    Nice video, i am looking similar videos yo watch mafia 1 city

  • @RichieLarpa
    @RichieLarpa Před rokem +6

    12:43 Have anyone noticed the serious downgrade in case of mirror view in Mafia 3? Reflections and shadows are turned off in order to avoid lags and it looks like a poor game from 2004!

  • @hatersgonnahate2505
    @hatersgonnahate2505 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Mafia 1: Realistic
    Mafia 2: Realistic
    Mafia 3: G U N
    Mafia: DE: Realistic

  • @russianlobster7754
    @russianlobster7754 Před 2 lety +5

    bro the response time thing in mafia 3 is so messed up🤣🤣

    • @Inugami0622
      @Inugami0622 Před 2 lety +8

      It's actually quite cool tho, it describes perfectly about the society in current gens. Racism all over the place

    • @someperson9242
      @someperson9242 Před rokem +3

      @@Inugami0622 Yeah, black ppl in the 50s and 60s often faced discrimination.

    • @JessiContingenC
      @JessiContingenC Před 11 měsíci +1

      Can’t say I agree with how dumbed down it is in some parts. Investigations are great and way better than 1 & 2, but I miss tickets and an actual, robust progression of UOF rather than shooting all your problems.

  • @Branbran1993
    @Branbran1993 Před 10 měsíci +1

    They really dropped the ball on Mafia 3 altogether. It was the only Mafia game I didn’t bother to finish.

  • @yourlocalFrostingfan
    @yourlocalFrostingfan Před rokem

    i hoped in mafia 4 and 5
    that it show you in prison after you get arrested
    cus in mafia 1 & 2 it doesn't show it
    so i hoped hangar 13 make new mechanic for 4th and 5th in the future tho

  • @StealthGamerWolf
    @StealthGamerWolf Před 3 lety +2

    killer. Can you do Watch Dogs Legion police AI analysis?

    • @Thekillergreece
      @Thekillergreece  Před 3 lety +4

      Most likely after its release.

    • @StealthGamerWolf
      @StealthGamerWolf Před 3 lety

      @@Thekillergreece Mind if you sub to my channel? Btw, I saved you by that trash talker having a huge paragraph of a unappreciated speech down there. I have a trash talker aswell and I get pissed off because my content is hoping and creative. Keep up the analysising vids. It learns the value of how the AI is in games.

    • @DoctorDeath147
      @DoctorDeath147 Před 3 lety +1

      @@StealthGamerWolf have my free sub

  • @volkswagenk7017
    @volkswagenk7017 Před 3 lety +8

    Mafia III cops at 1 star behave exactly like Driver Parallel Lines and 76 cops, they don't even pull over you but ram your car like the psycho cops from GTA 5

    • @Branbran1993
      @Branbran1993 Před 10 měsíci

      Parallel Lines was a damn good game in my opinion, mostly because it was fun. However, the police mechanics were absolutely garbage.

  • @exoticcrafter4576
    @exoticcrafter4576 Před 3 lety +4

    Next is sleeping dogs wanted system analysis

  • @cartercolson7975
    @cartercolson7975 Před 3 lety +1

    U should do GTA5 police analysis

  • @redcobra7707
    @redcobra7707 Před 6 měsíci

    0:39 A sentence so simple yet many people still fail to understand it

  • @somerandomguy4788
    @somerandomguy4788 Před 3 lety +4

    I wonder when the gta 4 expansion police ai will be reviewed because i think on both or just one of them. The police Ai is just completely alike to the gta 5 one.

  • @PatriotGamerBoy
    @PatriotGamerBoy Před 3 lety +1

    my highschool right here

  • @Pplaye
    @Pplaye Před 7 dny

    Mafia: Innovation.
    Mafia II: Improving innovation.
    Mafia 3: GTA clone.

  • @kebabowmeow7289
    @kebabowmeow7289 Před 9 měsíci

    Push a little bit police officer in Mafia 3
    - Let’s make a martial law

  • @majorcaleb4889
    @majorcaleb4889 Před rokem +1

    The crazy thing is the PIT wasn’t invented until the 1970s

  • @mansourbellahel-hajj5378

    Well Mafia 3 even if nobody would agree with me on the cops but really for the most part it was actually real and the police back then in the 60s and before were racists against African American people so maybe the cops details maybe was rushed but actually at the same time it was spot on because in reality that's how the black people were treated by local authorities.

  • @starryberet4025
    @starryberet4025 Před rokem +1

    Mafia 3 cops be like " he's got a gun!!"

  • @Jordan-tp6nr
    @Jordan-tp6nr Před rokem +2

    Well for the time the game is set in and the color of Lincoln’s skin I’d say the cops reacted normal 💀

  • @thestingingray114
    @thestingingray114 Před 5 měsíci

    The police in Mafia 1 love to blow their whistles 😂

  • @cowerdnerddespacito9518
    @cowerdnerddespacito9518 Před 3 lety +2

    I can tell you played mafia 2 definitive edition because of the shaky ness of the steam coming from the sidewalk vents

  • @Arielpascuale3
    @Arielpascuale3 Před 3 lety +7

    I think the best police in this games is... MAFIA DEFINITIVE EDITION!!!

  • @musashiblade1512
    @musashiblade1512 Před 2 lety +3

    Mafia 1 and 2 has some sort of due process, then the first game you play as a black man, they just shoot you dead. Hmmm. Message?

  • @MediaGuy-2005
    @MediaGuy-2005 Před rokem +1

    Mafia 3 cops are nuts and have absolutely no chill at all!

    • @AlternativeLoffen
      @AlternativeLoffen Před rokem +2

      Lincoln is black.maybe that's the reason why and the game is set in the 60s

  • @kenmcdavidefernandez5364
    @kenmcdavidefernandez5364 Před 3 lety +1

    ❤️♥️

  • @loganaugustine67
    @loganaugustine67 Před 3 lety +1

    Can you do a gta v police behavior analysis video please?

  • @makingarecord2179
    @makingarecord2179 Před rokem +2

    27:16 Cyberpunk 2077

  • @user-id47802
    @user-id47802 Před 3 lety

    Why i get arrested if i assault a civilian in mafia 2 definitive edition? Bruh

  • @MegaRayan2011
    @MegaRayan2011 Před 3 lety

    Watch dogs legion police behaviour analysis

  • @austinsupreme750
    @austinsupreme750 Před 3 lety +2

    watch dogs legion police?

  • @flashstudiosguy
    @flashstudiosguy Před 3 lety +7

    It's scary how political Mafia 3's cops are;
    Attack in Rich White Neighbourhood:"HOLD ON,WE'RE ON THE WAY!"
    Attack in Poor Black Neighbourhood:"Urgh,do I have to...? I just got comfy.."

  • @thehunchbackmechanic
    @thehunchbackmechanic Před 2 lety +1

    1 STAR kalm
    5 stars PANIK

  • @janooka9474
    @janooka9474 Před 3 lety +1

    I guess Im in the VIP list ;3

  • @poppytoad911
    @poppytoad911 Před 3 měsíci

    27:13 He can't think about it if he doesn't have a brain! 💡

  • @yosujin
    @yosujin Před 2 lety

    Only pushing cops m3 is your last day

  • @JerryWoo96
    @JerryWoo96 Před 3 lety

    what happens when u exit the car and let the car roll into the police? who they gonna charge a driverless car?

  • @bearded4276
    @bearded4276 Před 3 lety +2

    watchdogs legion metropolitan police and albion

    • @thegamingvillager2392
      @thegamingvillager2392 Před 3 lety

      Just Albion as those are main police force. Regular police still there but they play the role as guards in some restricted areas

    • @lewis571
      @lewis571 Před 3 lety

      Oi do you have a licence for that phone!

  • @warghost6564
    @warghost6564 Před 3 lety

    4:50

  • @nassirhussain9962
    @nassirhussain9962 Před rokem

    l'm Nasser

  • @NotCharAznable
    @NotCharAznable Před 11 měsíci +1

    Luckily Mafia 3 is decently moddable. Makes the AI leagues better.

  • @androxus3073
    @androxus3073 Před rokem

    Conclusion, every Mafia game is a bad game, not in their stories but yes in their game logics

  • @KeloTheWolfy
    @KeloTheWolfy Před 8 měsíci +1

    Mafia III: *Racist simulator*

  • @vexatha8701
    @vexatha8701 Před 3 lety +1

    Police behaviour watch dogs legion???

  • @jayvyawahare4866
    @jayvyawahare4866 Před 3 lety +5

    I Think police start shooting right away bcauze the protagonist is man of colour in magia 3

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra Před 3 lety +11

      I don't, I just think it's lazy devs making the police more like predictable police in other games cus it's less effort. Hangar 13 only changed that for Mafia DE to reflect the original game. Mafia 3 cops are just typical game cops.

  • @doonishsan
    @doonishsan Před 3 lety +8

    In Mafia 3 police would keep shooting you since they are racist. Not sure if this is accurate in that year but it is sure is accurate in 2020.

  • @user-hx9lh2we5i
    @user-hx9lh2we5i Před 2 lety +1

    mafia3 police is racist unfortnatlly

  • @foxyplaygamesbezlitosnysnajper

    Fun fact: Mafia III is the only game who had SWAT 😂

  • @Inugami0622
    @Inugami0622 Před 2 lety +7

    In Mafia 3, police will only shoot you.
    The sad truth of today's society